Digital Social Hour - How I Built a 15K Client Empire (No Funding) | Ace Rogers DSH #1007

Episode Date: December 23, 2024

How I Built a 15K Client Empire with no outside funding - an incredible journey from professional gambling to digital marketing success. 🎲 Watch as Ace Rogers reveals how he leveraged his gambling expertise to bootstrap multiple successful tech companies, including a digital marketing empire serving 15,000 private practice doctors. Discover the unconventional path of a self-made entrepreneur who turned casino wins into sustainable businesses. Learn about his unique approach to risk management, business scaling, and how he built recurring revenue streams without any external funding. From high-stakes gambling strategies to building service-based companies, Ace shares raw insights about his remarkable success story. Get an inside look at how he manages multiple tech companies, a high-end pet retail store, and maintains his edge as a professional gambler. Ace opens up about his journey from humble beginnings to running a business empire, sharing valuable lessons about persistence, strategy, and turning profits into sustainable growth. Perfect for entrepreneurs, business owners, and anyone interested in unconventional paths to success. This candid conversation reveals the mindset and methods behind building multiple successful companies from the ground up. #makemoneyonline #bettingtips #sportsbettingstrategies #sportsbettingeducation #sportsbettingtips CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 00:40 - Getting Banned From Casinos 02:12 - Making Money From Gambling 05:00 - The Lamborghini Yacht 07:06 - Gambling Rules 11:12 - Love for Animals 14:07 - Ace's Daughter 14:44 - Struggles Working for Others 17:00 - Passion for Changing Lives 17:50 - Materialism Discussion 20:58 - Gambling with Logan Paul 22:17 - Ace's Stance on Online Gambling 27:38 - Why You Shouldn't Sell Your Picks 28:40 - Winning Years in Gambling 30:15 - Learning Business Skills 34:14 - Addiction and Rehab Journey 38:54 - Intelligence Beyond School 42:39 - Finding Ace Rogers APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: [e-mail] GUEST: Ace Rogers https://www.instagram.com/acerogersceo LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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It means go back to the cage, get some more money, and fire some more bullets. I found like, you know, a few of those times, like if I didn't chase, I wouldn't have got my money back. So I think like with every rules, there has to be exceptions, but if your exception is I'm going back to the cage 10 times, that's not very smart. All right guys, we're here in Vegas

and you represent well coming up with the Louis suitcase things are coming on man. Yeah I always got a hard case. Full of cash? Uh-huh. You're big on gambling so that makes sense. Which hotel you like gambling out out here? Uh whatever one lets me now I'm back allowed into all of them so I like the Aria, Cosmo, Wynn. Got it. So you were banned for a little bit? I was banned for about six years. Damn. Randomly called me up and said I could come back. That's a long time.

Yeah. Did they tell you why? I got caught structuring. Which basically, I knew how to take money from them and I'd take like maybe 30 grand a day, but I would cash out. You don't have to show ID if you get to show 3,000 or less.

So if you go and you have three or four friends, and you make 30 grand, you go make two trips, maybe one at 10 AM, go back at 3 PM, you can cash out all 30 grand without showing ID. Because I don't want to be tracked, because I know I'm winning. Now you do that five to seven times a week. How much money is that, right?

Now you do that over a few months, four, five, six, seven months, ended up taking 1.2 million from the REO, which isn't a lot for them over six months, but the thing is they knew that I was structuring. They don't like you bending the rules. Once they know that, they're like, okay, you're structuring, and I got greedy.

I went back a second time in line and said, you know what, I'm gonna be smart and not use this three grand, I'm gonna cash out now. They asked me for ID and that's when they had me and they went back and this is the guy who's been structuring for six months. They canceled me, cut me out and kicked me out and then six years later they called me back and said I can come back.

There we go. What was your game to make all that, was it one game? Blackjack, and blackjack, sports, horses, auto racing and that's it. Okay, so a few games. Yeah, football, basketball, sports, horse racing and blackjack. Horse racing, wow. So you know your stuff. Yeah, yeah, I'm thinking one of the best. Have you always been into gambling?

Yeah, forever, since I was 13. And were you profitable at first or did it take some time to build? No, I wasn't. At first I was 13. And were you profitable at first, or did it take some time to build? No, I wasn't. At first, I was not profitable. I would lose, but you learn the game over time. And then I got really good at it, realized I could beat Blackjack, I can beat sports, and I just kept going with it, and make my bets bigger and bigger.

Interesting. And have you had to adjust the strategy, or it's been pretty consistent throughout? It's pretty consistent overall. I have my own Blackjack strategy. I only play six-deck. I only play by myself. Quite frankly, I don't own blackjack strategy. I only play six-deck only play by myself, you know quite frankly I don't play against female Asian dealers and people

People are well, that's kind of weird. Well go to the casino and go tell me what nationality most of the dealers are Go they're all Asian and yeah female and then if you walk to a Asian female and her name is one or win What are you fucking doing here? Like what are you your name's one? I don't even know anyone name one or win it's like I'm fucking out of here man you're a fucking assassin I'm not fucking playing against you and then you play so many hands you realize that you know that nice old white guy over there man he seems to be a lot easier to beat than this fucking lady I just said feel that Asian people have something magical with the cards. So you feel like the dealer actually matters?

100%. Chip count, dealer, pit boss, number of people at the table. I only do six deck. I play very fast, very hard, large amounts. I don't sit down in the chair for the most part. And I play big and fast and I leave. Wow, so you're standing? Yeah, because I'm going to play four or five hands, 10 grand a piece, unless I front them a million, and then they'll let me pay around 20 grand a hand. Other than that, I'm playing 10 grand, maybe five, six,

seven, eight rounds, and I'm out. Similar to Dana White's strategy, then. Yep, just go big, go hard, try to make a bunch of money, and go. That makes sense. Yeah, I see the Asians in the back rat room, too. Always. They're everywhere.

That's the thing, is there's something about them with the cards. They love that money. They love that back rat. I'm surprised you don't play back or out. I don't I I was you know, my boy is Mickey Mason Yeah, he loves that game. So I don't want him to teach me how to play. I know dealer bank or something I don't want to know I really don't want to know how to play cuz I it just seems too easy It is pretty mindless. All right, just pick one side. Yeah, and I just don't think that's the game for me It's a game for him. But blackjack's my game. We have different strategies I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to play it. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to play it It's too easy. It is pretty mindless. You just pick one side. Yeah, and I just don't think that's the game for me. It's a game for him, but blackjack's my game. We have different strategies.

We were just talking the other day on my yacht, and he's like, you can't win with your strategy. I'm like, no, I actually win with my strategy. I see your point. But probability doesn't really factor into my thing because I'm playing so hard and so fast so quickly that I'm not really falling into the Probability of the game over a long period of time. Yeah, I want to talk about the yacht action

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It's basically the only, there's two in the country. This is the first custom spec out one. It's in San Diego. It's a blue Elios and I got it about a year ago. Wow. And why'd you decide to get one? I'm one of Lamborghini's best customers. So when they offered me one, I just said, I'll take it.

Went down to Italy, spec'd it out. It's 4.5 million cash, paid them and they had it ready about a year later. Yeah So you hot you bought a bunch of lambos prior? Yeah, I like live Estrada. I've Rivalto. I've had the SVJ I've had six or seven uruses. I got her as per from Montes you name it Lamborghini's made it I basically bought it damn and you made all that money from gambling. I also I'm a serious entrepreneur I own five tech companies. I own a retail store called Aspen's Doghouse, and I'm also a professional gambler. The gambling is funded all that, so my companies, as I've been told, are very rare because we have no funding, we have no board of directors, it's just I

have infused gambling money into my companies, I have a good strategy of making a shit ton of money gambling, and then I funnel it into service-based recurring revenue businesses off digital marketing. So I offer a service and I get paid monthly on that service. The main company is called Doctor Multimedia. We have 15,000 private practice doctors that pay us every month for digital marketing, whether it's their website, their social media, their blogging, their video, their pictures, their SEO, their pay-per-click ads, you know, all the eight different social medias they have,

where they want to write content for them. So they'll pay us monthly. We keep their website up, we keep their email up, we do their tech support. We can show them texting services for their clients, software for their patients, and their customer service software, things like that. We can help them get reviews online, things like that. We can help them get reviews online, things like that.

We can help them get rid of negative views. So all that is based around digital marketing for private practice doctors and it's niched out. So once I take my money gambling, I'll throw it into my company, that will obviously create a bigger pile there, service space for crime and record revenue. I was able to take that money, gamble more,

and now I've got a pile going back and forth of millions of dollars a month on each side. Nice, you got a very good discipline, it sounds like. Yeah, yeah, you have to be disciplined. One thing at gambling, no one sits down at a table with any rules. The first rule is what can you lose and what do you wanna make?

You have to know, you have to have a goal. There's a third one, it's like how much time can you spend here, but that doesn't matter for me. But if you know what you're gonna make, that way you hit that, you leave. You know what you can lose, you hit that, you lose. Now the only exception is that out of 10 times, I'll say two to three times I'll let you chase.

Means go back to the cage, get some more money, and fire some more bullets. Because if you chase all 10 times, right, that's not a system. You're just gonna go chase, go back to the ATM, and go back to the cage and get more money. But I found that you have to stick to those most of the time. Know what you're gonna win, know what you wanna lose, and then two or three times, I'll allow you,

and you have to pick those times, where you're pissed, you lost, you're like, I'm going back to get more money. I found a few of those times, if I didn't chase, I wouldn't have got my money back. So I think with every rule, there has to be exceptions, but if your exception is I'm going back to the cage 10 times, that's not very smart.

But a couple times out of that 10, you can go back to the cage, get some more money, and you'll be glad you did a lot of the time. So those are my rules for gambling. Know what you want to make, and know what you can lose for blackjack. And speaking of rules, what do you think about the book in blackjack?

I think the only place you can get the book is in the fucking casino So if it's in the casino good gift shop guess who's pumping it to you I play the exact opposite of that stretch Wow the of the exact opposite of that strategy That's crazy because isn't it statistically one of the best strategies though us statistically over a long period of time on a six-deck shoe I would say yes, but look at what people are doing. They're playing five, ten, twenty, hundred dollars a hand. I won't even touch those chips. They're bad luck.

Right? So I'm betting so big. It's just basically me and you flip a coin, let's go. Let's not go over time. Maybe it'd be 50-50, right? If you keep flipping a coin, technically it would go closer to 50%. But if it's just me and you right now, and we do four or five flips,

guarantee someone gets like four or one, something like that. So that's where I come in, and I'm gonna bet big and bet hard. So I'm taking myself out of the probability and the ratio. I love that, yeah, cause you're in and out quick, like you said, you're probably done within 10 minutes. Always, yeah.

Wow, you mentioned luck earlier, how much of that do you factor in? You know, luck's pretty important, I gotta say. I've always been just naturally lucky. Knock on wood. So for me, I think luck's a big part of it. Some people are just naturally unlucky. I can sense their energy a mile away.

And for me, I've always been a very fucking lucky person, so that's part of it. But a lot of his skill and having fucking huge balls, being like, I'm not scared to fire, because he's not scared to take my bets. I'm not scared to fire any amount of money. I'll theorize this about your luck, because I believe in karma,

and I know you are pretty giving. I've seen you tip 10k to valets, I've seen you give away Rolexes, so I think that actually helps your gambling personally. 100%, I'm appeasing the gambling gods when I do that. Like, if I'm'm you know, I Don't I don't fucking live want to become up to 50% wealthier paying zero dollars in management fees with quest wealth Portfolios can help you get there

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I'm not saying litter if you don't gamble. I'm just saying I try to appease the gambling gods because whether it's karma or religion or you believe in Jesus or whatever, there's some higher power. I don't know how nothing can be created from fucking nothing. So something created this. I don't know if it's a big bang theory But what created that something created this and whatever that higher power is I believe being a good person taking care of animals and giving will say hey I have to be good in your eyes because sometimes I'm a complete fucking dick and an asshole

So that I might be well deserved in those those fucking situations where I'm a fucking dick and an asshole But for the most part, I believe whoever the fucking higher power is or wherever karma is, they know this motherfucker's a good fucking guy, so I'm going to back him. But it's like Wolverine, nicest guy I ever meet. Bring the fucking claws out, well, now someone's got to die. But then the day, I think, we all think, Wolverine's a fucking good dude. Just leave him with the fuck alone and piss him off. 100%. You have a soft spot for animals.

Yeah, absolutely. You got a three-legged dog, right? Yeah, I've had off. 100%. You have a soft spot for animals. Yeah, absolutely. You got a three-legged dog, right? Yeah, I've had several. One just passed away a few months ago. And I always take Carrie Aspen. I didn't bring him here this time. He's back at home with his mom. Wow.

What made you so passionate about that, you think? I saw the relationship my roommate had in college with his dog, and I always wanted that. And you'll find, like, I'm Indian descent I'm Indian descent, like red dot, not feather. And a lot of us don't grow up with dogs. And I just, someone told me that, yeah, it is weird. So once I got my first dog, I just couldn't stop. I've always had, I always have four or five dogs at a time.

They're usually all rescues. I've only had a couple of pure breeds in my life. I'd like to adopt, I don't like to shop. And I think that's also a big part of my luck because whatever Like I said that higher power is I'm taking care of fucking animals I can't take care of themselves and I give them really good lives So that should bring me some sort of you know, some sort of fucking luck in my opinion Yeah, I'm with you on that

I grew up in an Asian household and I had a bag for a dog and she never gave me one But so as soon as I moved out I got one. Yeah, and it's been life-changing It's the best thing best thing if you if you've never loved a dog I don't really want to know you if you tell people oh, it's just a dog like fuck you, dude It's not just a fucking dog. I've got a kid You know, I mean, I love my fucking dog and I love my fucking kid Don't fucking tell me I have to fucking love an animal less than my fucking child. I love them both fucking equally. I have a lot of love to give. So animals are just always gonna be a part of my life and you know by passing that

down like you'll be able to pass that down onto your children. No. Like they'll be they'll be animal lovers and that's fucking huge because that makes that makes for good people. They're so healing man. Oh you know a lot of you people who fucking you don't need a therapist you need a fucking dog Trust me get a fucking dog dogs or therapy hundred percent. I had terrible anxiety before my dogs now I don't have any literally none. That's awesome. Yeah, my dogs are fucking everything. They just accept you for who you are Yep, you come home. No matter what kind of day you had they're still the same I say you leave some guys can leave their girlfriend for fucking 15 minutes and all of a sudden they come out mine But leave their girlfriends in 15 minutes you come back. Where the fuck were you leave your dog alone for 15 minutes come back

Oh, you're back. That's fucking beautiful. I love that Yeah, I think I might rescue my next one dude, cuz my first two were breeders But I think there's a lot more fulfillment and rescues They really I think the ones get rescued fucking no They know when you save them that That car ride home with that dog, that dog knows you saved it, and the bond you have with that dog is unlike anyone I've ever had.

And I've literally taken a dog home with one of my friends knowing that if anything ever happened to me, and I thought this before I got the dog, I'm gonna make sure he rides in my boy's lap on the way home. Him and that dog always had a special, special relationship. Wow.

But I was thinking ahead of time, I'm gonna make sure he's in your lap so he doesn't really know. So he's gonna think you rescued him. But, and then they had such a special relationship. And I knew if anything ever happened to me, he would take Joe's eye. I love him, man.

That's powerful. You mentioned you had a kid. You have a daughter, right? Yeah, her name's Delilah Blue. Do you plan on teaching her all this? Yeah, absolutely. I'm gonna teach her everything I know. I think, you have a daughter, right? Yeah, her name's Delilah Blue. Do you plan on teaching her all this? Yeah, absolutely, I'm gonna teach her everything I know. I think, school's not important,

but I'm not gonna let school fuck up my kid. If anyone's gonna fuck up my kid, it's gonna be me. I figure I'm gonna teach her everything I know, right or wrong. Yeah, no public school for my kids too. Oh, no way, that's the worst thing ever. They just teach, teach how to be good employees, man. I want someone in business,

and I want someone who can think for themselves, and who is just a good person. There's some aspects of school that are positive, but for the most part, I think wealthy and rich people are gonna homeschool more and more and more. 100%. Did you struggle working for other people at first? Yeah, man, I've never, I always say I've never had a job.

I've had like four jobs, they've all lasted five minutes. I just walked the fuck out. What kind of jobs were there? I had the job where you clean up the cars in a parking lot and for a grocery store, I had that job for two weeks. You know why? Because the first day they gave me the job, I went fucking home and I came back and I clocked out.

Two weeks later, they finally called my name in the parking lot to come and like, hey, where are you? And then they realized I had not been there for two weeks. But I never fucking. It took them that long? Yeah, it's two weeks. I never pushed one fucking cart. And then like, hey, you don't really work here, do you?

No, I just go home every time I clock in. I just go home and I come back, I clock out four hours later. I don't push one fucking cart. I had that job for two weeks, but I never fucking showed up. That's a depressing job, especially out here in Vegas with the heat. Oh, yeah, I feel bad for those kids Man, yeah, but they don't know better, you know, they really don't know it's just how it goes You know, I think

Working for some people it's not for fucking me Especially as you know in this day and age if you can't fucking figure out how to make a couple bucks with your fucking cell Phone some technology some internet. I don't know, everyone, even someone of average intelligence has all the skills he needs to easily make six figures a year. Like easily, because you know, six figures is not fucking hard.

It's just really just effort. If you put some effort into the digital world, it's near impossible not to make a hundred fucking thousand dollars a year. Fucking impossible. I think people are aiming too low for a hundred K a days. Oh, it's it's not even real money No, it's fucking my dog can live on that for a fucking two. Yeah, when you factor in everything a hundred K goes But when you got kids, that's not a lot. It's nothing and I don't think I could have enough money

You know, I'm always gonna use it if you really use it utilizing it the right way you're doing so much for the world and expanding this base you have with people and animals and children and other people and your, your circle and your employees that I don't know, you have to keep making more and more money because now you have so many people dependent on you and you want them to live well. So if I don't fucking make more and more money every year, what's that going to mean for them? That means they're not getting raises.

That means they're not going to be able to buy new cars. They're not going to be able to send their kids to the school they want and take vacations and have a good life and live a high quality of life. So I think money for me is, I always mention it all the fucking time. It's my number one thing. I love fucking money.

Said it on Bradley's podcast, money had a dick, I'd fucking suck it. And I'm not fucking gay. I love that. I can see why you have five companies now. Yeah, you're really passionate about changing lives. Yeah, you have to be. First, I wasn't.

I remember my first, my buddy AK, he lived with me, he was one of my first business partners. We lived together and he moved out, and I'm like, shit, I have to pay you now? I paid him basically nothing. I'm like, this is never gonna end. And it hasn't ended. I still pay him, but luckily now I pay him very well.

And at that point, I didn't really want to take care of anyone. I was like, hey, give me five leashes and I'll be homeless. I'll fucking make it fine. But now I really love taking care of people, knowing like, put it all on me, your financial problems, you won't have, if you know me, you will not have

any fucking financial problems. I love that. What's your comeback when people say you're materialistic? I like nice shit, but I also fucking give more than you do. So why can't I have nice shit, buy nice shit, have a Lamborghini yacht, and also give away eight figures a year? I can have the best of both worlds. I think that's called America.

So if it's just one thing, hey, look at all the stuff I got. I don't base my fucking happiness on fucking Lamborghini yachts. I base my happiness on fucking love and fucking animals. Take all that shit away. Give me my fucking dog and my kid and my fucking girl. I'll figure, I can get all, everything back again. I can lose it all and I can get it all back again easily.

But what I can't get back is my girl, my daughter and my fucking dogs. Love, love. So I fucking base my happiness and love, but I'm usually not talking like that to most people. I'm usually just money, money, money, money. So I show them all the shine. I don't show them the grind.

But if you really know me, you know I would trade it all for those two people and those dogs. So you just put on that for social media, you're saying? More or less, yeah. It's just like social media is always, it's either like food on there, sex, or fucking money. That's all anyone fucking cares about. Yeah.

I've put out fucking posts where I adopted this dog, or I donated $10,000,000 to this fucking shelter. Fucking gets no fucking views. It gets no fucking play. You know what, if I, and I've run a lot of different sorts of social medias and fucking online presences and I noticed if I put something fucking, some sort of scandal out online, fucking 300,000 fucking views. So people want to see that shit, but me giving money away is like, oh blah blah blah blah blah.

Those just, oh you could have, you could have gave that, oh you know they're just gonna waste, oh, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Those just, oh, you could have gave that. Oh, you know they're just going to waste the money. Blah, blah, blah, blah. So it's like, just what are you supposed to do at that point? Yeah, you see that with Mr. Beast. He had to start giving less, because he used to give a million a video, but no one gave a shit. Right, no.

You're like, I'm not trying to be Jimmy Dart, you know what I mean? But at the same time as, I guarantee that guy's getting sponsored, and I bet she's making a pretty penny off it now. Guaranteed, fucking teed. as he should, you know what I mean? But there's only so many people that want to see that, like how you give away. And I'm like, that's just, I give a lot, but also 99% of my giving doesn't have a camera on it,

and nor do I care for it to have a fucking camera on it. So I really should document more of it so people could see all the giving that I do, but that's just not my thing. Because if I go up to a homeless person and every now and then I'll do it every now and then, but now without thinking, I'm like kind of putting them on blast

for my own fucking gain. Why don't I put someone, if I'm gonna give something, I'm gonna go and tell you I'm gonna do this and then not show you the person I'm gonna give it to. Because then I feel like I'm exploiting them for fucking my benefit. That's and then not show you the person I'm gonna give it to because then I feel Like I'm exploiting them for fucking my benefit. That's true. Yeah, they could have someone they know watching the video that doesn't even know They're homeless. Yeah, just not fucking fair. I don't want I don't want to do that So I just give selflessly without a need for any media. Yeah, it's the game we play as content creators

I feel the same way you do like I'll have on a billionaire a bright person gets no views But you have on someone flashy like a Mickey Mace gets tens of millions of views People people see what they want to see social media is a fucked up fucking business. Yeah, it is have you gambled with Mickey? Yeah Black Jack or black Jack he plays black rock or supposed to come out here soon. Yes, you guys should film now They'll go borrow. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, do the casinos let you film? No when you get out You have to be very discreet about filming They do not like to film and now that I'm allowed back into them. I'm not trying to play any fucking games I used to same thing. He does was just like, you know real quick

Snap a quick phone. Yeah, you know, why am I why is this happening? And then you just look around but I'm now that I'm allowed back in I'm not trying to play any fucking games with them So I just I have enough problems in casinos as it is when I walk in so I just don't need anymore Yeah, I mean you stand out when you walk in with this and your shirt. I mean, oh, yeah You know, I'm not you know when you walk in this and you fuck holy crap And you sit and go to casino man, and I'm just going to play Someone in every casino every fucking day has to come up to talk to me. They, hey, what's all the cash about? And I'm just like, bro, we're in a fucking casino.

Okay, and this isn't the fucking circus circus. This is the fucking Aria high-limit room. It's just some fucking money I need to play. And this is the way I play. I don't want markers. I don't like markers, because now I'm kind of borrowing, and I don't play on credit.

I play on fucking cash. And you can see it, you know? So when you see it It's totally different than Wiring into a fucking casino now all of a sudden you know you've wired in and they give you chips Chips are fucking just as bad man. It was like they're just chips here. You go boom You know you don't seem as money. You don't think about it. No same way reason people like why don't you gamble online? You could place all these bets online. Okay great. Let Let's say I put $200,000 on Alabama,

they just beat fucking Georgia. I had that, I won 250 grand off that game. I placed that bet on the MGM app. Okay, Sunday, and that's all I wanted to do. That was my game, I picked it out, I fucking nailed it, I won my money for the week. One game, we're out of here, we're collecting. See you next week.

Sunday morning comes around, you know I'm putting 20, 30 grand on a fucking NFL game at 10 a.m. Because it's not big deal I go if I lose it no big deal I got a couple hundred grand coming I'm not gonna care I lose it I'm fucking pissed I want my 30 grand back 1 p.m. another 30 fucking grand what's the fucking 5 p.m. Sunday night fucking football now I got fucking 60 grand on a fucking fucking game now I'm down 120 on my 250 Monday night football comes around I've got another fucking 225,000 on the fucking game I'm now I'm gonna be down a hundred

all cuz that shit cuz of an app hmm so that's why I don't do it like that because I physically have to go and place my fucking bets so I collect my money and I leave so I'm not I'm not gonna go does Xeno to put a twenty thirty thousand dollar bet in I'm not gonna that's a waste of my fucking time yeah so betting on the app it's just a So betting on the app, it's just a balance. So that balance, it's just a number. I'm going to sooner or later, I'm a degenerate gambler, just like every fucking gambler.

Next thing you know, Tuesday comes around and I'm just like, why didn't I just fucking, I had a plan, bet Alabama, take my money and fucking run. That was my fucking plan. But then 20, 30 goes into 60 60 to 120 now You got to put a big fucking bet on monday night fucking football I always say the fucking biggest fuck the biggest idiot is the guy who is the most money on the super bowl You know shawn perry. Yeah, it's like what it's just a fucking isolate game now. I switch it for me because

Superbowl's a game that will take seven figures from me on if I try to bet seven figures on a fucking NFL game this weekend they won't let me do it but on Super Bowl they will take almost any bet so there I do my one of my larger bets usually is on the National Championship game in college and football and then also the Kentucky Derby because these are three events that you can bet basically almost any amount of money you want to write but if you just show up to a casino on a Tuesday to bet the Milwaukee Bucks You're lucky if they're taking you'll be lucky if they take 50 grand, right?

Because you'll affect the line at that point right under percent million bucks. You'd be surprised. Yeah, not on the Super Bowl But yeah, you and people should be they think like a hundred grand doesn't affect the line. It absolutely fucking does I've got ten grand on the halftime lines at the MGM on a football game it moves a half point right away Wow just ten measly grand I'm like how much how little is everyone fucking betting here and I know cuz I bet horses so when I'm at Del Mar and I'm betting the horses and all that they show you the pools and I know how much I've bet and I put a hundred grand there and then the horse goes off with a hundred and sixty thousand dollars on it like I'm like, Jesus.

160 grand, man, I put 100 of it. That's nuts. That's like, I'm one of the biggest, just tells you, I know now I'm one of the biggest gamblers because 160 grand's mine. So when I see a line move, I know how little it takes to move the line. 50 grand, they'll move it a half point.

How big's the horse betting market? I don't know many people betting in that space. A lot of people don't bet big on horses. It's not really a thing. There's only so many big races that you can really bet on. So for me, it's big for me because it's pool betting, it's like poker. They'll take as much money as you want

because the house gets 17% of the rake, the track. Damn, that's a lot. So if I bet 100 grand, they're getting 17 grand. Wow. And that goes into a wind pool, so my 83 grand is gonna get split among its wind pool and everyone else's money. So they don't mind how much,

they don't care how much you bet, you bet a million dollars. But if you bet too much, you start affecting the odds where you're betting against yourself. Do you sell your picks? No, for me, for the most part, if someone's selling picks,

they're not a fucking real gambler. Why would I give you my information? What does Google sell information? It's the most important, it's the most, it's the biggest commodity in the world, information. So when people are selling picks, I'm really, I'm really suspect of that. If I give away my pick, let's say, to a thousand people online, they all bet it, even if there's little, little, little, little baby baby bets you're gonna fucking fuck up my line why would I give you my information and fuck up my own line most of those handicappers don't have the balls to bet their own picks so I used to sell my picks a long time ago I would never give anyone my information anymore you're too big now yeah no way I'm

betting too much money I'm not gonna give you my pick yeah it's my information is everything you move the half The line on me a half point because you're gonna get my information. No way doesn't make sense No, I can make more just betting your own money. Exactly. So why wouldn't they because they're fucking not They just want you're fucking they just want to sell you a pick Yeah And a lot of times they're selling half of the picks on one side and half to the other I've seen that and I know some really good Handicappers that I would buy picks from that I actually do buy picks from I bought picks from one guy for fucking ever

He's really good, but I know he doesn't have the balls to bet like me. Mm-hmm That's why that's why he won't he's much more and he's much he's much more risk averse, you know me I'm like, I don't give a fuck about risk. So the handicappers like that that are good There are a few of them, but they don't have the balls to bet their picks. They're a needle in a haystack though Yeah, exactly the guys you're seeing buying ads are all just you know, but they don't have the balls to bet their picks. They're a needle in a haystack though. Yeah, exactly. The guys you're seeing buying ads are all just, you know. It's just a fucking scam. Yeah, it gets a bad rep your space.

Oh, horrible for, yeah, gambling is a bad, so I don't go into that market, because once you lose a couple picks, oh, you suck, you suck, and I can go 0 and 100 on my picks, I will bet my 101st pick without any, I'm not taking any information from anyone. I know I'm that good, but I can go 0 and 100 on my picks, I will bet my 101st pick without any, I'm not taking any information from anyone. I know I'm that good, but I can go on a bad run. Have you gone on some pretty nasty ones?

Yeah, I've gone on some bad runs. I mean, I'm good enough where I never get hurt too bad because I can sense out a bad run, so I'm not gonna feed into a bad run. I'm going to shy away from it and try to fucking weather out this storm. But when I'm on a good run that's when you're gonna fucking bet more. What's the best run you've had? The most I've done in a year is 40 million gambling. Holy crap. I'll average anywhere from 10

million to 40 million a year on gambling. But there's been you know about three years I'd say three years in the last maybe 20 that I haven't won, that I kind of broke even or lost a little bit. That's still really good though. Yeah, it's amazing. 17 out of 20 winning years. Yeah, it's amazing.

That's phenomenal. Most people won't even admit they had a losing year, so I appreciate your honesty. No, absolutely. I lose, I would tell people I fucking lose, but I obviously win way more than I lose. And then obviously online I post my winning tickets only, why don't you post your losers?

Why would I fucking do that? Why would I post that? You don't think I lose? Of course I'm just gonna post my winners. But it's, if you see my lifestyle, and from 2016 to my Instagram, and you see we started out with BMW i8s, and now you see what we're driving now,

how much money we have now. You've seen the come up for the last eight years. You can't say that I'm not making money gambling. It would be stupid for you to say that. I used to bet $300 on blackjack. 300, I bet two $300 bets. One was to pay my DirecTV bill and maybe the gas bill that came in.

And the other $300 is where we could have a, go get dinner at Prime Steakhouse in Blasio. And I'd be pumped. 600 bucks, man. 600 bucks. Now, you know, we don't, now I tip fucking 600 bucks on a five, for a meal. So that's how it works, and now we're just

betting a lot more, the numbers are a lot bigger. Humble beginnings, man. Wow, were your parents pretty successful, or what were they doing? You know, my mom was a special education teacher, and my dad was a textile chemist, we were very middle class to below middle class. I could see why you're giving that with your mom being a

special ed teacher. Yeah of course that takes and she had an accent as well so she couldn't like she coming from from India she had an accent so they wouldn't let her teach regular public school because you know why your kid getting taught English by someone with an accent. I could understand that one so they she had to get a special degree to teach special education kids because it was the only job she could have in the public school system. Wow. So where did you learn the business side of things, son?

I always think the best fucking businessmen are fucking drug dealers. What an answer. I sold a bunch of fucking weed. I got busted in Vegas, but I forgot how many years ago I got busted. Henderson got me, North Las Vegas, Las Vegas, FBI, DEA. Damn, you were moving volume. Yeah, they were, but they didn't they got me with three pounds because I knew they were on me, so I fronted it all out. So I raided my house, they only found three pounds and as for all you professional criminals out there,

which I no longer am, you never do two felonies at once. So most of the times when you have that much,, which I no longer am, you never do two felonies at once. So most of the times when you're dealing that much weight, there's always gonna be guns involved. Always, because you need protection. I never have any guns. So I knew I just got a bunch of weed, so my felony was three fucking pounds.

I did 90 days probation. Death, that's not bad at all. Expunged, and then my lawyer said, you can go back to just dealing again I'm like nah means do end because I was starting my digital marketing companies at the time Because I couldn't meet anybody because I was stealing so much weight. So I was always paranoid if I meet somebody go you're a cop You're getting robbed cop. Yeah, you're gonna get me so I had be isolated while I was isolated I was always online learning how to all the skills that I have now to run a social media or digital marketing company.

I was learning online, because I was just by myself all the time, and I was starting this one sports site called Point Guard U for Arizona basketball. And I learned all my digital marketing skills. So once I got busted, I said, all right, I need something else besides gambling, because I can't deal weed anymore.

So I started getting, I got a couple doctors for doctor multimedia, and I realized how good I was at promoting them online and how many patients I got them. Next thing I know, I take a clinic from 2.8 million a year, a veterinary hospital, to 4.2 million in fucking less than a year. I just made you guys 1.4 million. And I know all this traffic is mine

because I drew them in with certain groupons and certain specials and this and that, and certain incentives that I know that these are all new clients, like your new client special is mine. This is how you got all these new customers. So then I said, okay, if I can do this for you, I can do this for a lot more.

Now, fast forward to 15,000 private practice doctors a month pay doctor multimedia. Holy crap, so you have the scale to that level. Which is very difficult to do. Anyone can start a digital marketing agency, try scaling it self-funded to $15,000 private practice clients and now we have Jet Digital, that has a couple thousand clients.

We have local clicks, that just does social media marketing as far as pay-per-click ads. We run all your PPC ads for your social media, your Google ads, your Facebook, whatever you want. So that does pay-per-click. We also have legal multimedia, which is now just for lawyers. And then I have Aspen's Dog House,

which is a retail store for just dogs, high-end. The stuff you get at our dog store, you can't, and it's just dogs, you can't get in Pesmer. It's just the highest quality of stuff. You're not getting purina and pedigree at my fucking shop. You're getting high quality food. So when you get it at my store, it's gonna be fresh. It's gonna be the best stuff your dog can get.

It's gonna be the stuff I would give to my dog. Highest quality, leashed, collars, bulls, you name it there. And then I do the professional gambling as well, a little bit of real estate and just a serial entrepreneur. Beautiful, dude. Yeah, the pet stuff is no joke I switched my dogs to raw diet. Mm-hmm. They're way healthier now. It's nice and day You it just makes sense kibble is so bad for dogs

It's horrible if you could see how that shit was made you wouldn't fucking feed it to your dogs No shot and yeah, people don't even think about the bowls you mentioned, but those are shit quality too. Mm-hmm 100% No, I just just got this new toy and I'm it's working really well It's a smart dog toy and like barks at your dog and it spins around really medically it keeps them so fucking engaged I need that cuz I got a herd dog. I got an Australian Shepherd. Yeah. Oh, yeah, so he has a ton of energy Yeah, yeah, they those are those are very smart dogs. Very smart. Very intelligent a lot of energy and you know, you're you're you're a guy You gotta be fucking you gotta be working. So, you know, you're you need a dog walker or some way to take that energy out of the dog Yeah, I'm a fan of smart dogs. I don't like the the dumb ones like the little ones the girls have the little cats

Basically yeah more or less, so I mean I like big dogs. Unfortunately all my dogs are pretty fucking dumb So yeah, we don't win any awards in my house like literally my I got two dogs They're just Harry and Lloyd from dumb and dumber man Fucking you get these two together. There's nothing but trouble man I think I got these smart ideas and they just like they just go looking for fucking trouble But no, I do like I like big dogs. I like dog ones I think a dog should be able to protect you for the most part However, you know, I've started got it. I've started I've got a little heart for small dogs now a little bit.

I've known a few of them and they've grown on me, but for me, I always get big dogs. Okay, I just think the small ones are so annoying. Oh, 100%. Yep, yep, yep, yep. Bitching and whining and crying. Yeah, you bring yours on the flights with you or no? Oh, absolutely, I don't go anywhere without my dog.

One time you'll see me without my dog, just because I was taking a quick trip into Vegas, I just wanted to come do this podcast and I'm flying back out. But we're gonna, we'll take the PJ back here on Monday. Nice, did you gamble out here this trip? Absolutely, always, yep. Let's go. That's all I do, I basically stay up all night

and fucking gamble. Oh, sure, I thought you were in and out. I am, but I'm in and out, but there's certain games and I'll go back and forth, I'll have a condo here. So I'll go to here, I'll go eat here, the restaurants are open late. So Blackjack, I'll go back and forth. I'll have a condo here. So I'll go to here, I'll go eat here. The restaurants are open late. So blackjack, I'll go in and out, but it doesn't mean I won't do fucking like six or seven

sessions of that 10 minutes during the night. That makes sense. And every now and then a session does get to an hour or two. If you're on, yeah, cause if you lose three in a row, you gotta make it back. Right, exactly. So I'll just go back to my condo. Go fucking, go here. I don't drink, I'll just go back to my condo. I don't go fucking go here. I don't drink

I'll go to go get go get a bar. I go to get a fucking orange juice. Relax I'll start handicapping games and then also when I'm saying like I'm gambling all night when I'm watching a sports game and it's fucking you know, it starts a fucking 8 p.m. Like Arizona will start I think I know you know these everyone Arizona starts tomorrow. I think at 8 p.m That's gonna go to 11 11 30. So me if I'm still gambling you watch the full game Yeah, I always it's kind of like research gotta kind of watch the teams I have certain teams and I love to watch and you you learn do you have a good control on your emotions during the game? 100% you would not you you'll never know if I lost but you'll know if I fucking love that. Yeah, that's hilarious

Some people do not have good emotional control. You don't want to be around those people. Like you could see it, they start drinking, they start going off the rails. No, who would want to be around that person? You lose some money and now all of a sudden, like people can't be around you. Now I always say if fucking, if I lose we're going out, and if I win we're really fucking going out.

It's what difference does it fucking make? The amount of money I lose, like what's going out, spending five, 10, 15, 20 fucking grand, it's not gonna make a difference anymore. And if I win, it's definitely not gonna make a difference. Have you always been sober? No, I actually had a really bad stint with alcohol. The last couple years, I just got out of rehab

a month and a half ago. I did two months in rehab over in San Diego. Didn't really tell anyone, but now I'm fucking proud of it. And plus I'm the man everyone should fucking want to be anyway, so, you know people want to hear the fucking struggle I'm not perfect. I was getting drunk off my mind for the last two fucking years I wasn't the dad I should have been I wasn't the fiance I should have been I wasn't the businessman I should have been luckily I'm so hyper intelligent that I could maintain really well and then now finding out being sober as I am now that I really wasn't maintaining, I really wasn't.

We're just making so much fucking money that there's no fucking problems, no one's fucking broke, we still got comfortable. Yeah, exactly. And I found it's pretty common amongst CEOs. Once you have everything in life, that drive kind of goes the way you get complacent, you fucking get comfortable.

And I've got that thing back, I've got it all back and now I know like I kind of needed that a little bit where yeah I was in the basement of rock bottom and you know, I Was in a really bad place with my family With my friends it affected every relationship and I've been sober for fucking over four months and it's the best thing that ever happened Wow appreciate the openness, man. Yeah. A lot of people are not sure that.

How did you re-spark that fire? Fucking, it's amazing what that alcohol does to you, man. It totally killed it. And now knowing that, you know, I did kind of take two years off of my potential, knowing my potential is fucking better than most men's potential, I feel like I fucking need to make up for that fucking time. I've lost time, yeah. You know, sure I have everything, but if I had stayed the course, you know,

I'd fucking be a lot closer to a billionaire than I am now. So, and yeah, that's something I want to strive to, just for what I can do for animals, the world, the people around me. And you know, if I get there, I get there, but you know, I'm well on my way there now, especially as being as sober as I am.. Oh yeah I love that. When did you realize your intelligence was different? I think in like seventh grade when I got

when I got kicked out of I got kicked out of junior high for calling it a bomb threat and then I called it a bomb threat that was fucking smart. I was trying to study for a test I figured if I shut down the school I could read the whole textbook home. I'd fuck Asian parents, man You know they have pressure on you. I was fucking strung out of my grades. I called them a bomb threat they caught they closed down they didn't close down school, but they came my house and got me and And I because I was scared of this pop test. So I won the school close Wow I kicked me out of school, my mom took me, and then I got kicked out of junior high around ninth grade.

I got kicked out of high school, and fucking in 11th grade, and my mom took me to take the GED. I took the GED, I got my GED, I never graduated from high school, and I go, mom, I could have passed that in sixth fucking grade. That's when I realized, damn, my intelligence level at a younger age was smarter than everybody's and why I'm getting in trouble all the

time because you can't can't put people like me in a fucking box in a school system. Yeah. You're gonna fucking rebel. It doesn't make sense and you know now I know I'm the most successful person from the class of my high school class and I never graduated. Probably the whole school in general. Yeah a hundred percent. Not just the class. It's not even fucking close. Oh but that's relatable because I thought I was dumb because of school. I was getting shit I thought I was dumb cuz of school I was getting shit grades and I was Asian and you know strict Asians are so my whole life I was like, wow, why am I stupid? But that's not actual intelligence. No, not at all school school makes good employees, man

Yeah, you're just you're just a robot if you're getting straight A's and getting a job if I had to do it all bit over again I got going to business when I was an 18 years old and Fucking fall my face four or five times till I fucking figure it out. Simple as that. Like this shit didn't work out for you as soon as you started. Right?

You had your ups and downs. I started a pod five years ago, failed. Right, ups and downs. Then you learned everything and now no one can stop you because you know so much about this. It's like now it's on repeat. Right.

They can't take that from you. It's the experience. Plus the connections and the networking. I've really focused on repeat. We all have kind of a, we have our own, so we can use that to kind of help each other to kind of multiply in all our resources, our connection. Everyone has, I have a guy for everything, and so do they.

So it's really hard to stop us when you have a guy for everything. Yeah, you're one degree from probably anyone you need. Yeah, the first thing I did here, actually your guy's like, hey, let me put you on this WhatsApp group, right? Connecting everyone right away. And that's like an invaluable resource to have.

Yeah, yeah, every single guest that's like an invaluable resource to have yeah Yeah, every single guest that's been on the show is in one shot And we you're not allowed to promote your own shit in there, so we only help each other. That's really cool Yeah, I hate I hate when there's like people are just promoting their own shit like why? Like that's just so disrespectful. Yeah for real The lack of like respect for people is people don't even pick up on that shit That's that's what blows my mind common sense and common courtesy or not very common. That's what I realized When you grow up with money, I'd notice it's more common than those people right me have some class and some etiquette

Yeah people about money usually You can't take someone from fucking red lobster to fucking Delilah. Yeah, everything's handed for them. So they don't know better No, that's not real life though. No, I'd rather work and earn for it. Especially if you're a guy. Yeah, I would actually hate just being given money when I was growing up. It would ruin you.

It would destroy me. And when you don't have it, you look at everyone else who has it and you're fucking jealous of them. And you're like, fucking shit, I wish I had it like that. But not knowing, not having money is one of the best things. You have to learn how to fucking make it. Most successful people, I'd say over 80% have no money

or little money, grew up in a rough environment. I think they say, I don't know, 80, 90% of fucking millionaires are all self-made. Yeah, I've seen that. It's all the poor people who want to say you have a trust fund. Now think about it, how many people do you really know with a trust fund?

How many do you know? Not many. Thank you. So where are they all? I know one person with a fucking trust fund. It's just not how it works. You usually go out and make your fucking money. Absolutely.

Ace, it's been awesome, man. Where can people find you? Keep up with you. Ace Rogers, CEO on Instagram. No D in the Rogers. Ace Rogers, CEO on Instagram. Boom, we'll link below. Thanks for coming on, man.

Any fucking time. Thanks for having me, Sean. Thanks for watching, guys. See you next time.