Digital Social Hour - How I Built a $42M Jewelry Empire in 21 Years I TRAX NYC DSH #1393

Episode Date: June 4, 2025

How do you build a $42M jewelry empire in just 21 years? 💎 Tune in to this electrifying episode of the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly as we sit down with Trax NYC, the mastermind behind a mult...i-million dollar business in the heart of the Diamond District! 🏙️ From starting with nothing to leading sales of $42M annually, Trax shares an unfiltered look into his journey, the struggles, and the strategies that made it all possible. 🚀 Learn the secrets behind navigating the jewelry game, why gold and diamonds are timeless investments, and his take on Bitcoin, lab-grown diamonds, and the evolving market. 💰✨ Packed with valuable insights, personal stories, and even a touch of spirituality, this episode is a must-watch for aspiring entrepreneurs and anyone looking for real-world wisdom. 🙌 Don’t miss out—watch now and subscribe for more insider secrets! 📺 Hit that subscribe button and join the conversation. Let’s uncover the path to success together on the Digital Social Hour! 🚀 CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 00:58 - Gold vs Bitcoin Comparison 05:00 - Therasage Overview 08:20 - Gold or Bitcoin Preference 09:58 - Understanding Bitcoin 12:48 - Insights on Gold 15:24 - Money Game of Life Explained 16:15 - Figuring Out the Money Game 17:33 - Journey from Nothing to Freedom 19:58 - The Role of God in Life 22:28 - Everything is Known in the End 26:03 - Selfishness and Divine Support 33:35 - Lab Grown Diamonds Discussion 37:08 - Visiting a Diamond Mine 41:04 - Filming Your Deals 42:44 - Dealing with Resentment 44:44 - Building Your Brand 50:21 - Desirability: Men vs Women 53:37 - Emotional Differences: Women vs Men 54:54 - Sacrificing Your 20s for Future Success 57:18 - The Devil's Influence on the World 01:01:15 - Responding to Goou 01:03:15 - Goob’s Wisdom Insights 01:03:20 - Invitation for Goob 01:03:21 - Goob, You Heard It Here First 01:03:22 - Burying the Hatchet 01:03:29 - Thanks for Watching APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: jenna@digitalsocialhour.com GUEST: TRAX NYC https://www.instagram.com/traxnyc/ SPONSORS: THERASAGE: https://therasage.com/ LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ The views and opinions expressed by guests on Digital Social Hour are solely those of the individuals appearing on the podcast and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of the host, Sean Kelly, or the Digital Social Hour team. While we encourage open and honest conversations, Sean Kelly is not legally responsible for any statements, claims, or opinions made by guests during the show. Listeners are encouraged to form their own opinions and consult professionals for advice where appropriate. Content on this podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only and should not be considered legal, medical, financial, or professional advice. Digital Social Hour works with participants in sponsored media and stays compliant with Federal Communications Commission (FCC) regulations regarding sponsored media. #ad#goldprice #howtomakemoneyonline #onlinebusiness #loosediamonds #jewelrybusiness#goldprice #howtomakemoneyonline #goldetf #onlinebusiness #loosediamonds

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Or you got a bunch of crypto shit coin and you pawned it off to someone else. I destroyed this little bottle cap. Anybody want to buy it for $300,000? Well, you could sell it to the next guy for $350,000. And then that guy might sell it to someone else for $450,000. And then that guy is just going to be looking at this shit in his hand. I'm not with that shit. I'll sell you gold.
Starting point is 00:00:19 I'll sell you diamond. I would do a fair markup for my business. Okay, guys, got Traxx NYC here today. Someone I've watched for years now, killing the social media game and the jewelry game. What's up guys, what's going on? You're rocking a lot right now too. Time to learn. Time to learn from you. Sure.
Starting point is 00:00:39 You've been in this jewelry space for a minute. Yeah, 21 years, you know what I'm saying. 21 years I've been struggling with the people in the Diamond District and finally got to a place of some supremacy, you know? And a position of leadership in that industry, which I have to take to build an amazing life, man. It's just as simple as that. I just saw your recent clip. You spent 400 million dollars in the Diamond District. Yeah I mean in the last year I spent 42 million so our annual sales are like 42 million which is like 3.5 million per month. Damn. Right it could be 3.6 plus holiday season or whatever so 42 million dollars annually for 21 years.
Starting point is 00:01:22 Now I had to scale it from low to high. So it averages out maybe, you know, somewhere in the range between three to 400 somewhere around there. And what's the breakdown with watches, gold, like necklaces? That's a great question. Watches, gold and whatever else. It's probably, you know, I did watches in the later end of the career, high end watches. In the lower end of it, it well a high-end watches in the lower end of it
Starting point is 00:01:47 It was a bunch of other bullshit brands. I Don't know man 20% watches Probably 40% on gold 60 or you know the rest whatever is left over on diamonds and gemstones Mmm, something like that makes sense gold's been going up a lot lately, huh? Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean that was the scheme That was a plan. You know what I'm saying? Um, uh, gold used to be when I started in the business somewhere around, you know, um, $10 a gram, $14 a gram was a lot of money, right? Even less than like 10 carat.
Starting point is 00:02:20 And now it's 10 times the price. And it was 350 when I started. Now it's 10 times the price. It was $350 when I started now it's $3,500. So basically if you bought a gold chain in 2004 and you overspent by double, you got ripped off, you're still gonna be able to scrap it for about eight times the amount you paid for it. Wow. Okay. That's nuts. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:46 So you bought a five, you bought a $500 chain for a thousand dollars. You could scrap that chain right now for, you know, thousands. And that's really what it was. And that's how it used to be. I mean, the price is crazy because I'm even looking at my own pieces that I'm ordering coming out of the factory. And it's almost more expensive than gold. You know, a lot of rappers, sometimes I curse them out and I insult them.
Starting point is 00:03:12 But I do it out of love. You know, I grew up on hip hop, but I tell them that they're fucking retarded all the time because, you know, they're trying to do what's the trend. What's the dis, what's the dat. But they never understood what I'm trying to explain. You know what I'm saying? And now the trend is, is that the gold is worth more than the diamonds, man.
Starting point is 00:03:33 If you wanna really pop off, you know, like a one kilo Cuban used to be like 50 grand, now it's like $120,000. It's more than some of the diamond ones. But you know, diamonds is where the money's at. But you gotta have gold, you know what I'm saying? You have, I could only call you, you know, retarded or whatever or some derogatory term.
Starting point is 00:03:58 If you have money, but you fail to buy something that can still make you shine and then double your money over time. You know what I'm saying? Just because you think it's not cool or you're trying to look cool. To me, that's a little retarded. I don't know. I apologize if I hurt your feelings. Nah, the way you're describing it, it's almost like a no-brainer because you can wear and make money on it. So it's like a win-win because it opens up the door for you. Yeah, it's not like a Bitcoin which no one's ever seen or heard of in real reality. You know what I'm saying? I'm sure people have offered to pay you in Bitcoin.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Yeah, and I accept it and I have no problem, you know. I wish all the Bitcoiners the best and I wish them whatever it is. But you cannot go like this with a Bitcoin. You know what I'm saying? You can't turn it into a vulture holding your company logo. OK, so would you rather have gold or Bitcoin yourself? I mean, me personally, I don't like the notion that I'm going to wake up tomorrow and I could be told something's going on.
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Starting point is 00:06:57 It's the only bottle that also structures your water and adds red light to supercharge it. It's sleek, portable and honestly, I don't go anywhere without it. Okay, I want to, but you know gold has one thing. Someone could put a gun to the side of your head and take a kilogram or know where your safe is at. Of course you have your safe and then you have your decoy safe and then this and then that and then here and then there. It's all a game. Right? You know what I'm saying? Um, but so you could get robbed physically. Gold is a physical asset, you know, and a couple of kilos will go a long way.
Starting point is 00:07:33 So if you are in the range of, you know, half a million dollars of wealth, you could easily stash that in a small spot. If you know what you're doing and how. When it comes to Bitcoin, you know, it's... you have Bitcoin? I just sold online. I kind of messed up. I sold it at 90k. It's 105k. Oh wow, big deal. You took a tiny little 15% or whatever. Where did you sell it? On Coinbase. Coinbase. You know what I'm saying? So it's supposed to be decentralized,
Starting point is 00:08:10 but yet you're centralized to Coinbase. I don't really understand it. Coinbase is centralized, you have to report taxes on it. Exactly. So you gotta do this, you gotta do that, you gotta do this, you gotta do that, you gotta do this, you gotta do that. Coinbase, you wake up tomorrow, what happened with Coinbase, what happened with that Sam Bankman freeze?
Starting point is 00:08:28 You know what I'm saying? I don't want to hear none of that shit. I want to know my gold is right here. Here it is. And, you know, the scrappers and it's a very institutionalized thing. But that's for me. I'm not telling people that they're wrong, you know, or arguing why won't you believe me, why won't you believe me. I don't give a shit. I wish gold was still cheap. I wish gold was the same $3.50 that it was. That's just not the way the game works, you know, because I would have been able to have much more. But me personally, I like to have my money. I have, you know, a little bit of stock. I sold that, I sold
Starting point is 00:09:06 Tesla a little bit on the high end, I had Berkshire Hathaway, I might liquidate some of that, but I usually invest in my business when it comes to growing my shit. And I've got a million or so in gold chains, and I really wish I had 20 million, but I'm in the gold chains business. So that's different. You know, I buy this. It's like some people might say, fuck Bitcoin and fuck gold. And they might have horses, but they're in the horse business. They have a ranch. They might be breeding horses.
Starting point is 00:09:37 They might be selling Arabian horses or whatever to all sorts of places. So if you're in, if you're in a business of that and you have a knowledge of it, you might switch your money to where it works for you. But for me, I never touched the Bitcoin. I'm not spending $100,000 on it. I'm not Binance or whoever these people are. It's, you know, it's for it to be a million dollars or whatever. The market, what's the market cap of Bitcoin? It's high, I don't know the exact number but. It's like a trillion. It's around a trillion last time I checked. So for people who don't understand the market capitalization means what? The way you
Starting point is 00:10:17 would define it. How much is there available right? Yeah how much money is in this pool okay you know the market capitalization of Amazon is also like a trillion dollars so basically what that means is that if you had a trillion dollars you could buy all of Amazon right or if you had a trillion dollars you could buy all of the Bitcoin. Yeah. Of course if you tried to if you did have a trillion dollars and you would try to buy all the Bitcoin, you'd just be pooling that trillion into the market capitalization, thus making the market
Starting point is 00:10:53 capitalization two trillion, you know? Whatever it might be, because you're stuffing more money in there. But the problem with the Bitcoin is, is that the higher the price, the more difficult it is to move that needle. When the market capitalization was a penny, and you put in another penny, the price doubled. Okay? And that's what really drove people in. They're like, yo, I just put in 10 cents and now the price is already, you know, 11 cents
Starting point is 00:11:24 for a Bitcoin. Wait a minute. I just bought in $10 and now the price is already you know 11 cents for a Bitcoin. Wait a minute, I just bought in $10 and now the price moved much easier in the earlier stages. But now you need a trillion dollars to move the needle and another trillion dollars to move the needle and let's face it you're not doing it because you want to keep your money safe because you want to take a profit. I don't know you know so I don't understand it but some people do and a lot of people do and they believe it and they love it and that's on them. I just hope they don't wake up broke one day. Yeah I mean for you it's probably good because you probably get a lot of crypto nerds
Starting point is 00:11:59 trying to buy stuff off you. God bless them, they do and I love the notion of it and the crypto nerds can spend all the money that they want. I take their money, I cash it in and I put it in my business where my money belongs. I don't sit there and wait for it to go up and wait for it to go up. XRP or this one or that one. Solana, Cardona. You know what I'm saying? You see these people chatting. You don't really know, or this one's that, or here is there, this is Ethereum, or this is this. It's everything you need to know is when you hear the hoctua coin. You know what I'm saying? If that's where your fucking currency is going to, to a hoctua, you know what I'm saying? Where some chick is spitting on someone's dick, you know what I'm saying? That's your money. I don't really know what to tell you, you know, I really don't know what to tell you at that point.
Starting point is 00:12:51 If gold is going to keep going up and up, you think they're going to start making it in a lab like they're doing with diamonds? Listen, you know when this gold was made right here? When? When a star exploded. This gold was formed only gold is only created when stars explode. So by within nature, right, it takes extraordinary amounts of energy to make the metal. The metal is made by the universe itself to be rare. Okay, let me ask you this. What's more rare, diamonds or wood? Diamonds or wood, I would say diamonds.
Starting point is 00:13:29 You would be absolutely incorrect. Really? Because if you take across the universe, there's a lot of crystallized carbon, but there's not a lot of wood. The only place that we know of in the entire universe that has wood is planet Earth. Ain't no wood on Mars.
Starting point is 00:13:45 There's no wood on the moon. Right? So you have to understand how to value things and you have to understand the rarity of it. Here there's plenty of wood because it's been growing for a billion years. But that's not the case across the Milky Way galaxy or anywhere else as far as we know. And there's a whole stars and I guarantee you Mars has wood because carbon is nothing special. Right, carbon is abundant across the universe because carbon is made when stars burn,
Starting point is 00:14:18 gold is made when stars explode, and wood is made through life, which is even the most rare. So it's a matter of perspective as most things are you know what I'm saying. So they're not gonna make any gold in a lab and if they did you know the price of gold is $3,500 per ounce and you need to in order to take you know base metals and fuse them with enough energy you need to set off a nuclear bomb you know what I'm saying so the cost per ounce would be in the billions it's like people say you know ah there's an asteroid
Starting point is 00:14:58 with mad gold on it yeah how much you think it's going to cost to fly I hope you guys are enjoying the show. Please don't forget to like and subscribe. It helps the show a lot with the algorithm. Thank you. Yeah, how much you think it's gonna cost to fly, you know, across the fucking solar system to jump on an asteroid and mine the gold off of it? It's not about how much there is, it's about how much it costs to get it. It's a game. Money's a game, man. It's a matter of perspective. You know, people watching this, you want to get the facts to learn how to secure your own livelihood. Otherwise, you're wasting your time. You know, you got a... Everybody watching this, you know, has a situation in their life. Some of you
Starting point is 00:15:39 might be in jail. Some of you might be heartbroken. Some of you might be, you know, having the worst day of your life. Some of you might be heartbroken. Some of you might be, you know, having the worst day of life. Some of you might be having the best day of your life. Some of you might be, you know, starting school. Some of you might be ending it. Everybody though has trying to figure out how to make their life comfortable, work, and take care of their family, their loved ones, and their friends. And if that's the course, you have to play the money game and absorb the information. It's not a game to play to say, I hate Bitcoin or this is this or this is that. It's to be understanding and considerate and get
Starting point is 00:16:13 your hands on the money. Do you feel like you've figured out the money game of life? Well enough, you know what I'm saying? I'm not gonna say some of the things that I'm doing or where I'm at until it's done, but I'm more in the works of buying something that's very, very nice. And I have a staff of 60 people. I got a business that sells $42 million a year, $3.5 million, $3.6 million a month, I'm sorry, 42 million a year, you know, 3.5 million, 3.6 million a month. And I take care of a staff, I take care of my family. And, you know, it's a profitable business. I have inventory of vast value. There's a lot more to do.
Starting point is 00:16:56 There's a lot more to go. But I also have freedom and control over my life. And that's what I worked for for 21 years. You know what I'm saying? To get on an airplane, come to Vegas And that's what I worked for for 21 years. You know what I'm saying? To get on an airplane, come to Vegas. You know what I'm saying? Don't have to worry about how much anything costs. Not worried about how much the flight is or how I could save a dollar here, a dollar there.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Get me a flight, you know, whatever, Delta Sky Priority. Get me a nice hotel and let me come down, let me see this. It's freedom and it's great. It's everything I ever dreamed of when I was a fucking immigrant from Azerbaijan with nothing. Yeah and you were not only nothing, you were in debt, a lot of money right? At some point in time in business yes. Yeah well you know when I had nothing, nothing right, when I graduated high school and I had 20 bucks you know that was nothing, right? When I graduated high school and I had 20 bucks, you know, that was nothing, nothing. When I was in debt a million or so, right?
Starting point is 00:17:51 I still had cashflow. So I could go to the restaurant and take out more debt and, you know, go pay this guy. And then, you know, this I owe in 30 days. So I'll just pay that and in 30 and I'll just pay here. And then that's the next one. And I had the cash flow and I was able to wiggle through. But at the same time, there was over my head, vast amounts of debt that I had to manage. And then finally shrink down and then turn into, what do you call it?
Starting point is 00:18:20 So I lived other than the terror, you would never know that I was in debt. Other than the terror I experienced that I'm not going to be able to make the next move and regal free. But that taught me a valuable lesson in and of itself. Yeah, I bet. When did you finally achieve that freedom you feel? How many years in the business? You know, I was very successful in the first couple of years. And then I ran into some trouble with some of the people in my life or whatever. And the credit card fraud that hit me and shit like that. And those were like a decade of trouble.
Starting point is 00:18:55 Damn, a decade. A decade my friend. Geez. Yup. You know what I'm saying? It was a decade of trouble because once you start dealing with it, you have to be really, really strong to get out. Right? If your business is in trouble, you, you know, a decade of trouble because once you start dealing with it you have to be really really strong to get out. If your business is in trouble, you know what it's like?
Starting point is 00:19:10 It's like you're fucking playing football and you're up two touchdowns and you're feeling comfortable and then somehow you fumble it and you know know, two, three times. And now you're down by like, you know, three or four touchdowns. And then you have a quarter left or, or whatever, and you have to fight back. You got to really know what the hell you're doing to get out of that situation. You got to move calculated. Yeah. You have to really, really beat, you have to have God on your side, really.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Forget about calculating. There's not much you can calculate. There's really even nothing to calculate in the whole universe in all reality of it. You know what I'm saying? If you don't have God on your side, I don't really know what to tell. I don't know how to maneuver through that.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Through what I went through without God, I don't know if it's such a good idea. Damn. You really believe God played a huge role in your life. I don't know. I have faith in that. I can't definitively say one thing or another, but when I look back at it, you know, why would I be able to survive debt or survive anything and someone just gets hit by a car crossing the street, you know, I don't really have
Starting point is 00:20:18 answers for you, but when I was finished and didn't have any money and I really couldn't, you know, play the game any further. And then somebody walked through the door and they wrote a check for, they picked jewelry like this, this, this, this, and this. And this is like in 2009 when I was like in trouble. And you know, that's 2009. That's not a long time ago. All right.
Starting point is 00:20:44 16 whatever many years ago. That was the recession, right? Yeah. I was in trouble. That's not a long time ago. Alright, 16, whatever, many years ago. That was the recession, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was in trouble. I was just a kid. I was like 20-something years old. And I ran out of capital completely and I couldn't make any more moves. It was checkmate. Okay, checkmate. And guy walks through the door.
Starting point is 00:21:01 And he's like, oh, I want this item, this item, this item, this item. It's like most expensive items. Like the fuck's this guy? And he writes a check 150 grand, which is back then like 300. I'm like, this guy's fucking fraud walks out the door. Look him up. He hit the lottery. A fucking lottery winner walked through the door, bro. Well, lottery winner walked through the door to save me at the last second. And shit like that happened four, five, six, seven, eight, nine times. You know what I'm saying? To make me survive.
Starting point is 00:21:31 The last one was this rich Asian girl that, you know, I was finished again, and I didn't have the capital and I didn't, I just needed another little bit to get through this shit so I could flip this capital and make it roll over to To get out of this situation, but again, I was checkmated and I met this girl that was rich and she gave me some money Mmm, you know I'm saying now that doesn't happen every day now stories like that a lottery winner a girl that gives you Oh, you know, she gave me 150 grand and just alone or just alone. Yeah, she gave me 150 grand and she got... Just alone or just... Alone, yeah. She gave me 150 grand and she got her friend to give me 100 grand too.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Damn. You know what I'm saying? I paid them all back and I gave her interest and I took care of her and I bought her nice things when I made my money and shit. But it was a miracle. It's a miracle to me. So I can't sit here and say anything but that. Like if you don't have God on your side, I don't really know.
Starting point is 00:22:27 I really don't know. You've had a lot of ups and downs, man. I had a lot of drama. I'm pulling it together, but you know what? I did it to myself and I wanted to get it out of the way so the rest of my life could be stable and happy. You know what I'm saying? I wanted to, I felt the hardships of it all
Starting point is 00:22:50 and I'm fucking done with it, you know what I'm saying? And now I have to, you know, have wisdom to preserve, you know, stability and help the people watching that wanna make sure that their lives don't go through that type of drama. That's my real goal. I lives don't go through that type of drama. That's my real goal. I'd love to go through all that bullshit so you don't have to and teach you guys and communicate the information that will give you the wisdom necessary to avoid your misery. You give back more than any jeweler I've ever seen also. I always wondered why you started doing
Starting point is 00:23:23 that. Yeah well listen like I say you know like you're not going to have God on your side if you, if he's not going to be standing there over your shoulder if you're just some selfish piece of shit. You know what I'm saying? It's not the way it works, you know? Like you have to have faith and that faith has to come in your spirit and what you're doing in this world. You know, because the way the universe works, we experience time in the digital social hour.
Starting point is 00:23:52 We're experiencing time, but experiencing time is like reading a book. Okay, the book's already written. You're just reading this page. You don't know what's happened and you have no idea how it's all going to play out. But it's all already written and the book is already over. And the author already knows what happened and that's that. So you believe it's predetermined? I don't know if it's predetermined, but I know that it all happened already.
Starting point is 00:24:22 Okay? We're just experiencing it now. Okay. And, um, you know, that experience of time is, is, um, you know, it's a complicated subject, so to speak, you know, but, uh, what you need to focus on is not all the nonsense, what you need to focus on is, uh, having the positive energy in the world. Because you might be thinking you're going to get away with this and get away with that. Everything is done. Everything is known in the end and in the beginning. Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Everything is known. So you got to just make sure you're right with all that because that's what's looking at you, you know, we don't know the choices we're going to make and we have not made them yet through our eyes but they have already been made through the eyes of the world and the universe and it positions us based on where we will be. Which is kind of a paradox but that's just the way it works. It's kind of like you know those little molecules, what are those little, not molecules, atoms and electrons or whatever. The smallest particles,
Starting point is 00:25:35 they have no determinant state unless you measure them. They're everywhere until you check where they are. They're a wave and then when when you look at them, they're a particle. You know? So it kind of determines it. It's a paradox, but that's just the way nature works. Nature does not work for you to figure it out and, you know, do whatever the fuck you want. You know what I'm saying? Nature's working in a way to play with you.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Yeah. You got a spiritual side to you, man. I didn't expect this. Uh, yeah. Well, here it is. I just see you as a cutthroat businessman in the diamond district, you know. Cause it's known for being super cutthroat out there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:15 You know what the best way to cut their throat is? With God. Mmm. I love it, man. Yeah, I didn't expect this out of you though. I'm surprised, man. Yeah, listen expect this out of you though. I'm surprised man. Yeah listen, the reason why I even started my business was like, I just want to understand the world.
Starting point is 00:26:33 I said, if I could honestly do business, well is that enough to make it? Yes or no? I got to find out. And the answer is yes. Really? Yeah. The answer is yes bro. Again, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:26:46 You have to have respect for this world. What is God? What are you trying to do? You have to have respect for this world, man. You can't come into this world and try to take from it everything, use it, fuck it, you know, toss it. Like, and get what you want because it feels good. Just because, you know, how much blood has been spilled just because one person
Starting point is 00:27:08 wanted to release some dopamine inside their brain. If that's who you are, that's who you are, man. You're measuring the world. The world is measuring you and there's no way around it, bro. Yeah. I believe in that too. I believe in money can be made ethically or non-ethically. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:27:22 It can be made ethically or non-ethically, but you know, the best way to do it. And the most, the surest way to make money is to do it the ethical way. It's like the, what's the number one guaranteed way to be able to have apples. It's to plant your own apple tree. Right. So to speak. Okay. Yeah, you could, I mean, obviously you're buying them is more practical in the sense that it is,
Starting point is 00:27:51 but the real way is if you're planting, you're taking care of them, and then years later they're bearing fruit and you have that, that's a guaranteed way to have apples. Facts, everyone I know that's made money unethically, whether it was scamming, robbing, or whatever, they've lost it, man. Yeah, they lost it because it fucks with their head. It fucks with their programming. You know? You'll always make that mistake at that final hour or whatever it is. Whatever it
Starting point is 00:28:18 might be in your life, you know, like, right at that right moment the devil puts his foot out and makes a trip. Whatever it is that you're hiding or not hiding, whatever you think that you're doing, nothing is hidden. Something comes for you at that time. It's like even like Will Smith. The most storied career you could possibly imagine. Good looking guy.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Dances. Can sing. Can fucking do movies, it's everything, everything, everything, everything, the best movies, the fun, Will Smith walking through the door, you're like wow. And now at the apex of his career, when he's about to get an Oscar for the best actor for one of the many films that he did where he's putting on an amazing performance, someone says, GI Jane 2. And he comes out there and slaps another black man across the face in front of the world, sits down and screams at him, keeps my wife's name at your mouth. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:29:39 Was manipulated at that moment by his wife that kind of like went some way and this and that. And just to put a disgusting blemish on that. And I'm not saying that Will Smith is a sinner and he deserved it here and there, but something was spiritually missing for him to trip like that and for him to take such a blessing and turn it into you're not going to be remembered for everything, everything, you know, you're going to be remembered for something like this. All right. Or that's going to be the defining kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Oh yeah. You know, it's the first thing that pops into your head. Right? Like, you know, you could say a name like Monica Lewinsky. What's the first thing that pops into your head? We know. Yeah. Sucking dick in the Oval Office.
Starting point is 00:30:30 She could have been a great mom. She could have rescued somebody. She could have helped give birth, you know, in the back of a taxi cab in traffic. Doesn't matter. You're only going to know and be known for that for the rest of your life. If your name is going to be, it's going to say on that, your tombstone Monica Lewinsky, someone's going to go, oh, that's the trick. And that's not what you want. And again, what are we talking about? We're talking about people that gave up their money or they made money illicitly. You could be very sneaky and you could hide your shit, hide your shit,
Starting point is 00:31:06 hide your shit, but something might always come for you, a game might always be played and something might be this and something might be that. You want your money. Now, Jeff Bezos didn't scheme for no money. Jeff Bezos made all that money and he's going to fucking die with it and no one's going to play with him ever, As far as I could tell. Because you got your Amazon packages and he got his money. So you can't blame him for shit.
Starting point is 00:31:32 He's gonna do what he's gonna do and he's gonna have what he's gonna have. You know what I'm saying? But if you played a dirty little game or you got a bunch of crypto shit coin and you pawned it off to someone else, You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I destroyed this little bottle cap. Anybody want to buy it for $300,000? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:31:52 You could sell it to the next guy for $350,000 and then that guy might sell it to someone else for $450,000 and then that guy is just going to be looking at this shit in his hand. I'm not with that shit. I'll sell you gold, I'll sell you diamonds, I'll make a markup, 30-40% or whatever it might be. I'll do a fair markup for my business and we'll keep it fucking moving. You're providing a win-win. You know, your clients, if they hold that piece over time, you said it goes up, you know? Yeah, well listen, even if it doesn't go up, you know what I'm saying? A lot of shit you buy doesn't go up. You know, you buy a hoodie from Chrome Hearts and you wear it and it's a fucking $2,000 hoodie and you wear it to look cool to impress a bunch of jerk-offs
Starting point is 00:32:33 and then you wear it two, three times. It didn't really go up. It went to shit. So, and I'm not any worse than them. Alright? And I'm selling you gold, I'm selling you diamonds. You know, I could sell you gold, I'm selling you diamonds. You know, I could sell you a luxury product and that's that. Now go, yeah, it'll go up. Gold will go up eventually, but it just went up. You know, I haven't been telling you this because it was, you know, high price. The fucking price was, when I started making gold videos, the price was $12.50. You tripled your money. That's it. I got you here. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Now it could be with Trump, the tariffs or whatever. It could be 10 years or the economy collapse tomorrow. It could be more and more and more. I don't really know. But the easy part of the come up, I took you along for the ride. If you bought a gold chain, you know you're fucking up. That's it. It's good business. And that's what my brand stands behind. And there's not a lot of brands that are gonna do it for you at all. Not even 1% of what the fuck I'm doing. When lab-grown diamonds started coming in the scene, did
Starting point is 00:33:39 that mess up your business for a bit? Not really. I mean it drove the prices of diamonds down. So you know you could now buy more. Or you could Not really. I mean it drove the prices of diamonds down. So you know you can now buy more. Or you can buy lab. I'll sell you lab if you want. You know what I'm saying? I like lab diamonds. You like them? Well I mean this ring right here is upside down Asher cuts. You can take a look at it. It's all lab. Yeah. This looks like real. Well, it's the diamonds are diamonds. Lab or not, it doesn't matter. Listen, this table has enough wood
Starting point is 00:34:15 to make a lot of diamonds. Really? Yeah. You know what? You look like a smart guy, my friend. I don't know how diamonds are made. I'm not going to lie. Well, do you know what carbon is? Yeah. Okay carbon is a molecule that under a lot of pressure crystallizes in a very hard shape because carbon has right like six connectors so when you push it against one another it's like a hexagon connectors. So it's like connected in every single way.
Starting point is 00:34:46 That's why light passes through. And it's just like the toughest shape that you could make. Possibly in nature. All right. Unless you intertwine the hexagons even more. A three dimensional hexagon. I don't even know what the hell that's called. So that is a tough shape and there's a way to do that. Under extraordinary heat and pressure, like it happens underneath the earth, you put
Starting point is 00:35:13 this table underneath the earth and extraordinary heat and pressure, the carbon in this table, which is you know the same carbon dioxide or whatever is going to crystallize into a diamond. It might come out looking like shit. It might come out looking like VS. It might come out looking like VVS. It might take a billion years to get to the surface. It might take a million years to get to the surface. It might never get to the surface.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Heat and pressure underground, you'll get that and you'll get different varying qualities. Or you could go in a lab and you could take a diamond, a natural diamond, and put it in a lab, and you could superheat the gas around it, the carbon gas around it, and the little carbon molecules will stick to the actual natural diamond and they'll grow, okay? Because they're just superheated and they just connect some way somehow and they'll grow okay because they're just super heated and they just
Starting point is 00:36:06 connect some way somehow and they'll grow so you could have a natural diamond and then grow it larger oh wow yeah so it's a diamond you know I'm saying a diamond is a diamond and that's it now I could have made this ring a natural this ring right here isn't a cheap ring this ring a natural. This ring right here, isn't it a cheap ring? This ring is like $8,000. Damn. Okay. In lab. In natural, this ring would be $35,000, $40,000 because these Asher cuts, um,
Starting point is 00:36:36 are by themselves are like in natural $2,000 a carat. Jeez. You know what I'm saying? And they're upside down. I mean, I set them upside down. You don't set Asher cuts upside down when they're that expensive. You just don't. You know?
Starting point is 00:36:56 So it's another game. So the lab can do whatever it can do. I love natural diamonds. But there's things you can do with lamb diamonds that you will never do in natural. You went to an actual diamond mine right? I think I saw a video though. Yeah I went to an artisanal diamond mine. I want to go to an actual diamond mine in Sierra Leone. I mean in Botswana you know so we're gonna see about that because the jewelry show
Starting point is 00:37:22 gonna come here in Las Vegas and a lot of people from the African nations are gonna come over here and They're the dealing with the diamond industry and for Botswana and a couple other places Diamonds are everything they build schools. They build hospitals They build everything because their money's coming in from that But they're struggling now because of all this shit and the is a fucking half retarded company as far as I could tell. Is that the biggest one in the diamond space? They regulate, they have supremacy over it. They're trying to become a public company, you know.
Starting point is 00:37:56 Listen, someone milked the money out of that, they're hiring this and that. I don't really know what's going on. But I saw artisanal diamond mining in Sierra Leone. What's artisanal mean? I mean it means that it's a small operated mine. That people you know you might have a backyard and you might be diamonds in it. Okay so you go out there with your buddies and you dig up the soil and you sift for diamonds. And how do you know there's diamonds buddies and you dig up the soil and you sift for diamonds. And how do you know there's diamonds there, do you know?
Starting point is 00:38:29 No. Well, where there's diamonds there's another type of rock. It actually kind of looks like whatever the hell this is right here. Oh yeah? Yeah. Well this is some other shit but there's something in the ground that when you see it, it's in the layer where diamonds usually are. It's like a black rock.
Starting point is 00:38:46 Yeah, it's like a black rock, like a shale type deal. So people look for that and they're like, oh, this is here. That means we could find diamonds. And they pack the dirt in one season and then they sift it in another season looking for that stone. And it's a tough life, but if you find it, there is a way, a fair trade way to get paid for it. And get that money to change your life and to change your situation. Did you find any? I didn't, no, I didn't find any.
Starting point is 00:39:17 I wasn't really looking, I just wanted to know what the hell was going on. If I want to buy a diamond for cheap, I would just buy it from someone who's pawning it. I don't need to fucking dig for it. If you think I need to fucking dig in the middle of Africa for a fucking diamond, you're crazy. You know what I'm saying? The cheap way to buy diamonds is through pawn shops and auctions. Somebody who fucking has got a debt or some shit and they need to cash it in and they're cashing in their stones and you buy it for pennies on the dollar.
Starting point is 00:39:50 I bet Vegas is great for that with all these gamblers. Well yeah, there's pawn shops all over here, you know what I'm saying? And they'll give you, you know, there's something that, there's some prices for some things that you just can't go wrong. You know, if someone pulls up in let's say 2019 Mercedes S-class, okay, what's the price of something like that, do you know? You talking about the G-Wagon? The G-Wagon, let's say. I paid 160 for 2019. Okay, 160 for 2019. Okay, so somebody pulls up and they got to let it go for 80. No-brainer.
Starting point is 00:40:34 No-brainer. Like you said, you operate on 30 to 40% margin. Yeah. No-brainer. They could go and you could buy yourself some diamonds and that's the way diamonds work. You just take it for a price that is safe and comfortable and that's how you cash it in. Gold works different, diamonds work different.
Starting point is 00:40:51 I mean, that's how these kids are blowing up. They're doing these diamond negotiations on video now. I'm sure you've seen them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, of course I've seen that. You know what I'm saying? And yeah, they're doing that and they're flipping coins and they're doing whatever and it's an interesting trend.
Starting point is 00:41:05 A shout out to Moses, you know. You know, he's a real d***. I'm really happy. So, you know, my powers are limited, you know what I'm saying? He's more, he's deeper in there. You don't film your deals, I notice. I do. I don't do deals. I do business. You know what I'm saying? I don't buy a certain thing and I don't bargain back and forth.
Starting point is 00:41:24 I don't really have that skill so if I don't have that skill I don't do deals, I do business. You know what I'm saying? Like I don't buy a certain thing and I don't bargain back and forth. I don't really have that skill so if I don't have that skill I don't do it. If I don't know how to dance I'm not gonna dance. If I don't know how to sing I'm not gonna sing. Negotiation isn't your skill? It is, but on a serious business deal. Okay, for something more important.
Starting point is 00:41:40 So we're gonna lock in real terms over the course of months and years, all right, and how much I'm gonna buy per diamond per month to build my production and shit like that. But if someone comes in for a watch and I don't know how much it costs, you know, or I'm not, I don't want to memorize the price of every watch, man. I really don't. That's impressive that people could do that. Yeah, they do it because they love it. If you don't love it you can't do it. I don't want to know. I don't care. I don't know about the Patek Philippe 5980 and this one and that one and this dial and this to here and this that and this baseball card and that and here. I don't know I don't do that.
Starting point is 00:42:16 I do I record when someone comes in and they have a parcel of Opals and I'll say okay you know I'll come up with a real business deal. Give me this for that and that for this. And we'll make a deal and I'll make something out of it. And I'll promote my website tracks and YC.com or whatever. Everybody does things different. And, um, and there's a lot of ways and some people have better skills, but sometimes I get angry when people negotiate. You do?
Starting point is 00:42:45 Because they play with me too much. You take offense to it. If you're gonna give me a high price and you're gonna try to, you know, because I have, I like to give. You know what I'm saying? I love to give. I love to give gold. I love to give knowledge. I love to give advice. I love to give. I'm a very giving person and when I see someone's taking advantage of that I get angry and then I turn into a different person. I saw that person on No Jumper. Yeah, yeah. Then I like to focus my mental energy on that individual and I analyze their weaknesses and then I haunt them and I break them. So you like to hold resentment on people you don't like? I don't know. I like to hold resentment on people that took my kindness for
Starting point is 00:43:31 weakness. You know what I'm saying? I don't like that. And you know I want to be pleasant here with you. I want to be pleasant. I want to be cordial from the moment I walk in to the moment I walk out. Someone gets disrespectful. You know? And that's not, that's just me. There's a lot of people like that. There's a lot of serious, strong people, you know what I'm saying, that have calm and courtesy. And if they see that you overstep that,
Starting point is 00:44:00 that's like the biggest insult. You know? That's like some primitive shit. And then I have to turn on a dark and negative side of me, which I want to avoid. But once it comes online, it's a problem. You know what I'm saying? And it's a problem because I'm effective. Okay. I'm effective at explaining myself.
Starting point is 00:44:22 I'm an effective at doing business and I'm also effective at breaking a person down. Right? They might be in one psychological state. They might have a girlfriend. They might have a mother. Well, how did your mother raise you to be a fucking thief or a whore or this or that? Well, why did you this?
Starting point is 00:44:41 And I'll find a way to kind of haunt a person in ways that they don't understand if you see me Marketing my business by giving away gold, you know a lot of the social media shit in the diamond district I pushed it and I started it and I started people Okay, because before for people you had to kind of be someone else fill someone else's shoes and our own talents and our own skills were in the shadows. And, you know, I'm not trying to be one person from another culture or another,
Starting point is 00:45:13 another, I showed what I, my skills and what I learned. And now there's a lot of amazing people that are from the Diamond District that are showing their amazing skills in business, negotiation, communication. Okay. And that's a beautiful thing. And that's something that I did and I was effective and I'm a leader in communication in a creative, interesting way.
Starting point is 00:45:41 So when I'm going to fuck you up, I'm'm gonna come at you in a way that you don't understand or realize. Just in a way that I market my business and handle my shit. And I will fuck you up. You know what I'm saying? You gotta be, it's not gonna be everybody, you gotta be really, really tough to, you know, put up a serious fight. But if you're just an arrogant person who's got a head full of fucking dreams, I'll haunt you in a way that you can't even understand. Does that still happen at your level now? Yeah. Really?
Starting point is 00:46:18 Again, you know what I'm saying? Like people get to know me and I take care of them. I give them a raise. I put them on their feet. Then they try to take advantage of them. I say, I don't wanna sit here and fight this person. I know they're gonna try to fight back because they think I'm soft.
Starting point is 00:46:36 Here, take the fuck out of here. And they feel like they have a right. They feel like they won. They pulled it out. It's like a baby, you know what I'm saying? And the baby's pulling something out of your hand and you're like here. And they don't understand that you could just throw them out the fucking window at a moment's notice. And that happens to me all the time. That's why I need people who understand me
Starting point is 00:46:59 and they need to be the managers for these idiots. Because some people I've realized there's different levels of humanity. There's the, there's, you know, ones that could meld with your mind and comprehend where you're at and what you're doing. And then there's the type of human being that needs to be set with rules and told what to do. They only want to do what other people are doing. They only want to do what other people are doing. They're wearing that.
Starting point is 00:47:23 I want to do it. They're doing that. I want to do it. They're doing that I want to do it. You know I'm saying that's most people. Yeah, that's most people and The lower your self-esteem the more you are like that. Okay, the less you value yourself and look around, you know Interns would come like to my company from France France Yeah there used to be like a lot of French interns that would come to my company to learn and shit and just one came and then she said in her school that it was a
Starting point is 00:47:51 good internship at a lot of capes. So ones would come and you know, unless they see you praising one successful, they don't want to compete. They only want, if the, you know, it's like, it could be like a group of four or five girls or something like that. And unless they see one girl doing something, the other girls don't get motivated. You know what I'm saying? Right? You can have a chick, some chick was on my phone. You know, I took a picture or whatever. She was looking, I'm driving.
Starting point is 00:48:24 And she's swiping through was looking, I'm driving, and she's swiping through my phone while I'm driving. And until she sees a picture with me with another girl, she don't want to, she's, you know, that inspires her to compete for me more. Why? I'm the same person sitting next to you. You really want to see me with another woman? That turns you on more to be with me?
Starting point is 00:48:43 That's fucking crazy. You know what I'm saying? That's a crazy way of thinking. It's a primitive way of thinking. It's a way of thinking I never understood. And that's why I need to keep a buffer between me and people like that. A lot of girls are like that though. As soon as you start dating one, more will flock towards you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:02 I mean, that's just the way they are. But you know, if that's how it is, that's how it is. I don't know. Yeah, I'm the opposite. If I see someone I like with another man, I'll give up on it, you know. Yeah, absolutely. Well listen, desirability obviously works different for men and women, but you can have
Starting point is 00:49:21 a really pretty girl and you want her sexually or whatever, but if she's doing OnlyFans, if she's taking off her clothes, like do I really wanna, you know, if she had a twin sister and she's wearing, you know, an H&M sweater and this one's, you know, shaking her ass, and some people will take this one, but if you have the option between the two, I'd probably take the more conservative one, but that's just me, it's more comfortable, whatever.
Starting point is 00:49:49 But yeah, people are different and people are wrong and they make a lot of mistakes and then they fuck up their lives and it's too late. Women when they're young, they have an advantage, they're desirable and they sometimes can overplay their hand. And then by the time they, you know, want to settle down, they have to settle down. Okay. They have to go lower than what they would have got if they were in their 20s. Now they're in their 30s. You know what I'm saying? Because they overplayed their hand.
Starting point is 00:50:21 They overplayed their hand. How's the dating scene in New York right now? How's the dating? If you're successful and have money, I'm sure it's wonderful. You know what I'm saying? If you're not, it's whatever. Same as it is everywhere, man. Well, I was just in Miami, so I just found out one out of seven girls in Miami are on OnlyFans now. I bet they are.
Starting point is 00:50:42 I mean, Miami is the worst place if you're a woman. The competition there is crazy. Listen, it's all about where you're at. And you know, when I would go to Japan, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's an advantage. Yeah. Okay? You're the tallest one there. Yeah. You got money. Yeah, exact foreign, whatever. They look at you completely different. They fucking
Starting point is 00:51:09 think I'm Al Pacino over there, bro. You know what I'm saying? So different places you go, you have a different value, right? Different places you go, you have a different value. There's some places where, and then you should go to those places to be as valuable as you could be. So that's really what it is. Women go down to Miami where all the other girls are in all bikinis working out all day. And they're all hungry for that feeling. And when time is not on your side, and a lot of time has passed, you start to become desperate. Okay, and that can happen to anybody in any circumstance if they made mistakes. And a lot of women are out there, might be in that situation,
Starting point is 00:51:53 because they're competing against one another like crazy. Someone's got to lose. You know? What is that noise in the background? There's people talking out there. Oh, okay. You're good though. Oh, this has been cool, man. I agree though, like I that noise in the background? There's people talking out there. Oh, okay. You're good though. Yeah. No, this has been cool, man. I agree though, like I grew up in Jersey, I was telling you, and like a 10 in Jersey,
Starting point is 00:52:10 they moved to Miami. They're like a six, seven. Yeah. It's tough. Yeah, but they have stars in their eyes. They want to think that they're going to go down there and this is going to happen, that's going to happen, this is going to happen, that's going to happen. But the universe has got numbers behind it. If you're in a place where the competition is high and it's, it's really good
Starting point is 00:52:31 comp when it's high competition, but you are the best of the best, it becomes, you know, your game. But if you're in, you know, not the best of the best and you have some flaws or some setbacks or something, you want to be where you're valued more but that's obvious but women are not logical thinkers in a lot of ways. They're emotional thinkers and they're all thinking about the story and shit you know and there's some times like I say something to you know some girls that even like me or whatever, but I might say something that might be true, but with their head just turns it upside down. They cannot recover from it.
Starting point is 00:53:13 All right. So I'm not even going to say an example, but you know, whatever, you know, the example we might, I don't want to hurt somebody's feelings out there or whatever. You want to, might be a certain age gap or certainness. Women can't get over words. You know, they can't get over words. They need a story. They need a narrative as far as I could tell. But that's just what it is. Well, they're more emotional. I think it's fact at this point. You know,
Starting point is 00:53:40 I think it's just innate nature, man. Why is it, why is it an innate nature for them to be more emotional? What's the evolutionary advantage to have one person, See that's a good question. One person more emotional and another person less emotional working together to create a family. Yeah, I wonder why God made it that way. Well, listen, it's nature in essence.
Starting point is 00:54:02 And the reason being, I understand it, and there is an answer for that. And the reason being is it's a social creature. Okay, so we're not, we're like a tribal group. So a woman will be communicating what she feels with another woman, with this person, with that person, to find out who's who. And they're operating in a different dimension, you know, in a group.
Starting point is 00:54:29 A man is going to be like, if you're either going to kill each other or not, okay? Alright, a woman might play a different game. A man is going to dominate in a sense that if we're going to fight for the same territory, it's about who's who, what's what. But human beings are more complicated than there's the emotional component. And you know, she'll talk to your wife and they'll group against, some crazy shit. You know? Yeah. When you were my age, when you were in your 20s, were you putting
Starting point is 00:54:56 women to the side to focus on business? Yes. That's what you got to do, right? Yes. I agree. I mean, it's, it's a, your mind has to develop without interference. If you're coming home and you're alone and you're sitting there and you're dwelling on the price of gold, you're dwelling on your staff, you're dwelling on a new commercial. That's one thing.
Starting point is 00:55:27 If you're coming home and your chick is there and she wants to watch Netflix and you guys have to order out and you gotta do this and you gotta that, you're not really gonna have the fucking time to think about anything. You're not gonna have the time to contemplate a plan. All right?
Starting point is 00:55:43 Because she's gonna to be there. And she's going to be doing shit. And bothering shit. And she's, you know, interrupting or whatever. Arguing or whatever. And then you know you didn't come up with a plan, you don't have the money to do this and now she's this and now she's that. And listen, but at the same time you don't want
Starting point is 00:56:00 to overthink and you don't want to burn yourself out. But sacrifice is your twenties. If you're a man, the more you sacrifice, if you do it in the right way, the more you're going to have in your thirties, forties and fifties. It's a man, you know, an amazing decade. Listen, I could have been in solitary confinement in my twenties, but if you were have a fucking great year when you're 38 years old, it doesn't even matter. If I go and I buy, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:56:37 A Lambo tomorrow and I got a nice crib and I got a fucking beautiful chick here. And this one's here. Doesn't matter what the fuck I was doing 10 years ago. I don't care. You know, it's all behind me. And the worse it was, the more I'll enjoy what I have in front of me now. So it's all bullshit, you know, on that end. If you're in your 20s and you're sitting here and you're planning a fucking thing
Starting point is 00:57:02 and you want to go backpacking in Europe and do a bunch of shit that's on you. Don't cry when you're in your thirties and then you have manhood is facing you and you're, you know, manhood is facing you and you're not, and you're not up to par. A lot of people party in their twenties and they sacrifice their youthful energy, man. Yeah. And listen, that's the way nature goes. Listen, the devil wants, what does the devil want, so to speak, this entity of destruction. What does he want?
Starting point is 00:57:36 Wants to distract you. For what? To keep you on the wrong path, I guess. So what's wrong with the wrong path? He doesn't want you to succeed right? Why not? He wants to feed off your energy. He doesn't need to feed on nothing he wants to destroy the world. He wants the world to be destroyed. To say see it was all for nothing. The profits what they were
Starting point is 00:58:02 talking about, the suffering, the crimes that were gotten away with or not gotten away with, and every good deed and bad deed all went into the dust the same. Bullshit all along. That's what he wants. How does he do it? He's got to get you to waste your fucking time and energy. Distract young people.
Starting point is 00:58:27 If young people, you're talking about, right, here's an example. If they didn't go in Iraq and Afghanistan and spend $2 trillion in, you know, in those years 2004, five, six, seven, and they took that $2 trillion and they invested it in all the school kids of America and giving them, you know, programming classes or giving them some sort of extracurricular activities where they could have fun, meet people and this and that. This society would last for a thousand years. Just off of one point of history, but no, towers got hit building seven went down some way, somehow the Pentagon got hit, you know, somebody was supposedly able to take a airplane and fly it at, you know, I understand you're hitting the
Starting point is 00:59:25 tower. You're hitting a six-story building. You gotta take a, it's your first time flying a jumbo jetliner and you gotta sit here and fly it at the rooftop level of apartment buildings. Anyway, it doesn't make sense to me. Never didn't see an airplane, didn't see that. That all happens. And you do that and redirect the energy of a nation to go kill half a million people all over the world. Well, that's, you know, that's why we have the society we have today
Starting point is 01:00:00 hanging on by a snot string. So that's what the devil wants. The devil wants for it to be destroyed, destroyed, all for nothing. That's all. And you have to fight the devil in your life and everybody has to fight the devil in their life. You know what I'm saying? Because he wants you to pop Molly, have a good time, get on
Starting point is 01:00:23 prescription drugs as a kid, go on a cocaine and then wind up thirties with your brain looking like Swiss cheese, unable to operate and destroying the lives of your friends and your family and the people around you. So it all could end. That's it. Simple. It's one thing goes to eternal life and the other one goes to death. It's destruction and creation. These are the two real forces
Starting point is 01:00:51 in the universe, man. Either living or you're dead. It's as simple as I can fucking tell you. Spiritually or physically. Be aware guys. Traxxas been awesome man. What are you doing next? I know you got a lot going on. I'm gonna hang out with my friends, grab some sushi and shit, take it easy. I'm gonna go see some art shit in Naples, Florida. Get back to work, get back to making videos, get back to marketing my business. But before we go, man, I gotta ask, you know, I got a friend, Goob You. Oh yeah?
Starting point is 01:01:20 Yeah, yeah. Goob You, he's got you pinned on his page. And you just could tell your side of the story or whatever it might be You know I'm saying like he was telling me you're You're charging five grand or some shit, you know for an appearance on your social hour or whatever and your numbers are cooked or whatever Yeah, I'll share my side. I've never done it actually So yeah, he made that video a year ago. It's been, it's been quite some time, but yeah,
Starting point is 01:01:48 I do charge an appearance fee. I think he thinks I keep all the money. Um, I don't know. I didn't watch the whole video, but basically he was mad I was charging people to come on and making a lot of money. I'll be honest, the business isn't profitable this year. I don't make a lot of money. I reinvest almost everything back into the business. I have a lot of staff, editors, clippers. I pay them $40,000 a month. I could post that. Why do you have to spend so much per month? Well you pay per million views. So let's say I have, in my Discord server we have 800 people.
Starting point is 01:02:18 They're all clippers, they're all teenagers, young kids, and I pay them $400 for every million views. Okay, why don't you lower it to 200? I probably could, now that there's a lot of them. All right, newsflash Discord, going down to 200. Yeah, I'm paying for 50 million views a month, so that's 20K there, and then I have my own internal clippers who I pay another 15K a month, so just a lot of overhead, man.
Starting point is 01:02:41 Well, listen, you know what I'm saying? That's, it is what it is. This is business. It's a complicated business. I appreciate coming on. I think you have great questions. Thank you. A great conversation. I came on here because I saw Andrew Tate.
Starting point is 01:02:54 I liked the conversation over there. I liked the way it worked. His clips come up all the time and I give them a listen all the time because they're good. They have some wisdom to them, certainly, and anybody who shares wisdom and we could all collect it, we'll all be the better for it. That's when the devil loses and so on and so forth. And my friend Goob U has a lot of wisdom, he's a
Starting point is 01:03:18 very smart guy too. Open invite for him to come on by the way. Alright Goob, you heard it. You know what I'm saying? Come on, bury the hatchet and share your, shine your light onto the world. Do it. Thanks for coming on man. Thank you for having me man. Thanks for watching guys. Peace.

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