Digital Social Hour - How Jad Kantari Made MILLIONS with Dropshipping and Retired His Family | Digital Social Hour #105

Episode Date: September 14, 2023

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I saw on your Instagram, I thought it was funny, so I wanted to bring it up. You said you leave your phone at home when you work out. I do. I leave my phone at home and I leave my phone in the car when I work. Oh, yeah? Like, I'll go to my parking lot and I just, like, leave it in the car. Really? Yeah.

Probably going to get robbed. So the critical thinking will go into the creative, right? That's where you should spend most of your time as an e-commerce brand owner. Really, you can sell crap products. Dude, I've sold paint. Something as simple as paint. You can even create the problem with creatives and then create the solution and then make the customer think they need that product. digital social hour welcome back guys i'm your host sean kelly got an e-commerce legend in the

building today jad kentari how's it going good good, good. How are you? Man, I'm good. I can't wait to see what you've been up to because e-commerce, a lot of people have been falling off, but you've been maintaining your ground. Yeah, just stuck with it, man, and been going since then, you know? Yeah, so many people fell off. I mean, when we met five years ago,

everyone was doing it. A lot of people switched to crypto, you know, when the whole crypto wave was going strong. And then a lot of people are switching back to ecom now okay so what's working these days because obviously the model has changed a lot from when we first met drop shipping was hot back then uh what's what's hot right now yeah we're seeing a lot of success with organic especially on tiktok um and reels on on instagram given the two platforms are competing um facebook still crushes for us and yeah same with tiktok ads wow and um we're working on twitter ads now

really yeah that's been the new wave okay even with the tracking issues with facebook it's still doing good for you guys yeah man um we were able to solve that there's a lot of software now out there that can just you know bypass the whole thing so we're good to go you talking about alex becker's company uh not necessarily that's a good one um we use one called popsicle okay um so yeah that's that's the one i like to use what was your first big breakthrough in the e-commerce space where you made some good money man i started in March 2017. I remember I got my first sale June 2017. It was $9.99. It was a free plus offer. And then ended up doing my first six-figure month October 2017.

Yeah. $120,000 on this like retro Nintendo. Oh, the thing Soulja Boy sold? It's very similar to that yes and then um after that man i remember going to mastermind in in new york in january 2018 and then 2018 i started hitting like half a million months and then a million months like you know regularly yeah you were dominating bro you've done over 30 mil now right yeah 30 minutes that's crazy and what are the margins typically on that the profit margins 20 around 20 after everything yeah and that's crazy you're putting up those numbers with a

lean team like you don't have many employees not everybody everybody's remote yeah all over the world um not many salaried employees even everybody's contracted so there's not many industries you could do that in yeah man e-com is amazing in terms of startup cost and how efficient and how efficient and how lenient it could be when you're traveling you know work from anywhere in the world yeah that's why i really like it um you know and it's it's very low barrier to entry when you look back at your most successful products or stores how were you able to find that niche that product to sell was it just scrolling on social media or were you studying other sites both i was i was you know scrolling on instagram and facebook and seeing what's working

already and then i would take that and improve on it you know make it better make the offer better make the landing page better on the ads anything i could improve i would go ahead and do that you know add upsells on the back end right um you know find cheaper product for sourcing and then um from that just really work on the brand improve the product itself anything that i could do for example i would go on amazon and find bad reviews negative reviews on the product yeah how i can improve the product wow yeah that's crazy improve those parts and then sell it that's insane most people would not do that man yeah and then another hack you can do is when you're doing that you can go on

amazon look at the negative reviews and then address that in your landing page because people are gonna always think okay but what if this what if that and then when you address that you're ahead of the competition so smart so what's your like conversion rate right now on average man we it depends on the store depends on the aov but typically anywhere between five to we have stores that are doing nine percent dude that's so hot yeah it's low aov though around 35 dollars but still impressive that means like five to nine people on average out of every hundred right or lying yep yeah i wonder what amazon's is i have no idea actually but i think amazon's is probably high given you go with the intent of buying something rather than just like get served an ad and you click on it and then you fall off yeah so amazon's and the trust factor is much higher on amazon that's true you're not really

browsing on amazon you're there with a purpose for the most part yeah you just go you click to buy you know i need this yeah and it's so easy man like i'll be like oh i need toilet paper hop on my phone buy two clicks like it's it's actually crazy how frictionless they made it dude that's another thing that people should always study when doing e-com you know you want to make your customer journey as frictionless as possible yeah you know the the more friction the lesser conversion rate is going to be and you want to minimize clicks that's why i like to do one one checkout pages or one page checkouts and so on so on you know you don't want to really have the customer have to figure out how to check out you want to just make it as easy as possible yeah do you think

that's what amazon does for sure do you think drop shipping is still a viable business model in 2023-24 or do you think it pretty much died out absolutely man we still drop ship if you have the right setup i mean apple drop ships all big companies yeah walmart does yeah if you go and order a mac a macbook right now yeah it'll ship from china no way i swear it'll take like two to three if they don't have stock here it'll chip it'll ship from china they don't have stock okay yeah which is a lot of times a lot of times they just don't have iphone stock that's crazy it'll ship from china china and it'll take like two three wow i just ordered a macbook last week but it was off amazon so i got it like two days yeah if if it's like a new version it's like a 2023 that just dropped they'll drop it but people still

do that you know as long as you're up front with your customer as long as you provide this good customer support and as long as you you know have a good supply chain in place you're not sending crap products yeah it's very viable and we still do it till this day and i don't start any brand without drop shipping in the beginning because i want to minimize risk i don't want to have people i don't want to have to invest x amount and then the product potentially dying right because products cycle pretty quickly right oh for sure i mean you can always extend the lifetime of a product right and that is through investing in good creatives other platforms when it comes to media buying and so on and so forth right it's really up to you how much you want to grow and how much you know and also you have to look at the ltv and if some if it's a product if it's a product that people are going to come back and buy right right

um and if you want to exit the the brand or no it really depends on your personal you know goals um but yeah they do die if you don't take care of the product i mean if you don't grow the brand the way you should how important is the creative and copy and how can people get better at those so creative is very very important it's really the number one thing it's your pitch it's the first thing people um see and i i usually think that um your creative is going to do 90 of the selling wow so once the creative is amazing and you dial that in, when customers land on your product page, unless there's something alarmingly off

or the price or the offer is just not in the right place, you're going to convert. They're going to convert, right? You want to make sure that your creative is top-notch and then conversions will come easy. In terms of copy, copy is very important as well. Copy can make or break your funnel. So you want to make sure there's professional copy.

But now there's chat GBT. There's AI. Yeah, they'll pump out very solid copy. So that's kind of taken care of. But most of the critical thinking will go into the creatives right that's where you should spend most of your time as an e-commerce brand owner and you should really focus on improving your creatives because again that's the pitch that's the first thing people see that's where a lot of the convincing happens

yeah i like that advice because people skip over that part they just focus on the product dude yeah i don't know why um it's it's the most important step wow really you can sell crap products dude i've sold i've sold paint something as simple as paint with good creatives just making it better making it look better make you can even create the problem with your creatives yeah and then create the solution and then make the customer think they need that product due to your creative's angle and then sell it to them. 100%. TikTok has shown me some great ads where I'll buy stuff at 2 a.m. How often are you just sitting scrolling and you don't even know you needed something? And then next thing you know, you're just buying this product because they really showcased an issue that you're like okay this resonates with me yeah so i'm gonna

buy this i bought this uh one thing like that fix your uh back posture it's like a neck thing you lay on and i bought this uh have you seen that push-up one yeah yeah yeah change the yeah you can just been using it every day honestly good product yeah i mean that's the beauty of of being able to market on social media you know and when back when we were getting started you and i it was just facebook everybody was competing on facebook i mean there's snapchat and pinterest but it wasn't like today where tiktok and and you know there's twitter now there's facebook google youtube like there's a plethora of platforms that you can really hop on. And everybody's on social media now, more than ever.

So that's the right place to market and to sell your product. What are the best creatives you've personally seen or done yourself, like, agile-wise? So I had this teeth whitening brand called Pearl. And I remember we used to shoot our own content in-house. So we would bring models and we would splash them with red wine like it was at we work too like we would rent out like an office space and we just like have like tarp everywhere and we would splash people with like

orange juice coffee um wine on their face and then we would kind of like show you know the effect of the whitening pen wow um that was something that we did you really want to go for very scroll stopping footage right that's that's what you want to aim for um and that's always the approach when you want to you know launch new creatives and a new brand yeah what were you doing before e-commerce i know you grew up in lebanoncommerce i know you grew up in lebanon right yeah so i grew up in lebanon i came here when i was 18 alone my family was still in lebanon really um yeah came here uh lived in oc for a bit for a year and a half went to community college there and then transferred to usc and then i studied civil engineering i graduated with a

civil engineering degree and then ended up um working as a project engineer on the Omni Hotel downtown. Oh, yeah? Yeah, it's in L.A., downtown L.A. Actually, the company I worked for was based in Vegas. And they've built SLS. They've built a lot of the Wynn. They've built MGM. They're a huge company out there. Yeah. And they were expanding SLS. They've built a lot of the Wynn. They've built MGM. They're a huge company out there.

Yeah. And they were expanding onto LA. So I hopped on the team and I was working with them for three years. And I was a project engineer on like a 60-story building down there. Wow. Yeah. It was rough, man. It was a lot of work.

So going to college for engineering, would you say that was a good move? No. If I could go back, I just wouldn't go to college.'t go really yeah because it's just a waste of time man unless you're a doctor or a lawyer or you really want to um go into the medical field um or law i don't really see the necessity of going to school right um because i want to start my own business i don't want to work for someone else if you want to work for someone else then you kind of have to go to college yeah but if you want to be a business owner then going to college is a waste of time and then you started making crazy money so did your lifestyle change did you move your family out like what was that process yeah man um i mean i was able to help my family back

in lebanon take care of them i moved my family to dubai opened a bunch of companies there gave them residency in dubai so now they live in Dubai. That's sick. Yeah, that's where I go. I go a lot to Dubai and Lebanon, back and forth between LA. And yeah, man, it was a complete change. I came from Lebanon from a very mid-class, mid-to-low-class family. So I had food on the table.

I had clothes on my back but nothing more right like i never had any extravagant you know things or life that i had lived so it was insane to just make insane amount of money in such a short period of time and adjusting to that life yeah so what's it like over there is it is it safe it's it's safe yeah it's a third world country but you know like there's beautiful areas just like any other country. And there's, you know, ghetto. But it's predominantly a poor country. Got it.

But also there's a lot of beautiful spots. Definitely worth checking out. Yeah, I ought to check it out one day. Yeah. So now that you've achieved this success, how much do you need to make per year to be comfortable? Because your bar probably is raised every year, right? So, man, every year I try to make more than a year before but i try to aim for at least 1.5 million a year profit that's profit net profit right yeah at least just to maintain

your expenses are high yeah yeah i am yeah just family you know just overhead yeah yeah you know god damn yeah i'm probably spending i don't even want to know actually it's up there though it goes up every year oh dude yeah you just you know you take care more people you you know try to i don't know traveling is like traveling is another big expense and six figures a year exactly and and especially when you're young you want to do as much traveling as possible because you want to get that out of your system you want to meet people you want to network because once you have a family you can't really

do that so that's something you want to keep in mind as well so um yeah man it's about around there how have you balanced personal relationships with business was that a struggle for you at any point yes and no i think it really depends on the person that you're with and kind of the expectations. If they expect you to be there all the time and they don't want you to work, then you're going to have some tension. Right.

But if they're supportive and if they want you to succeed and you have the same vision and goal, then I don't think it's really an issue. You just got to set expectations. You got to make sure they know what to expect and what your goals are and where you want to be and for me you know my goals come first they come before anybody um because if i'm not reaching my goals i'm really not providing my significant other with the life they should have and i want them to have so they're kind of standing in their own way in a sense right right um so i i

want to provide them with the best life they'll ever be able to live and i want to do that to myself so it's really we're a team and i'm working for their benefit as well right so they as long as they understand that and we can compromise and i can spend time with them and i'm giving them the time you know my time yeah then yeah that should be good you're in la right i'm in la her dating out there is rough it sucks it's not easy because everybody's i don't know it's a bit fake out there you know there's not many down-to-earth people but if you run with the right people you'll meet some good people but it is difficult yeah it's cloudy because you're pretty low-key on social media a lot of girls out there probably care about like having a following and stuff cloudy. Because you're pretty low-key on social media. A lot of girls out there probably care about, like, having a following and stuff.

Oh, for sure. Yeah, I'm low-key. I don't know, man. It's just I just do my thing, stay in my lane, and then, you know, they come. One of the takes I saw on your Instagram, I thought it was funny, so I wanted to bring it up. You said you leave your phone at home when you work out. I do.

I leave my phone at home, and I leave my phone in the car when I work. Oh, yeah? Like, I'll go to my parking lot, and I just, like, leave it in the car. Really? Yeah. I'm probably going to get robbed for saying this. If you're watching this, guys. My car and phone are going to be gone soon.

Wait, why do you do that? Because I don't want to get distracted. And I tend to get distracted with my phone because, dude, it's always going off whether it's working or not. So you go eight hours without your phone? Yeah. I mean, I'll take a break during lunch to just go check in just to make sure you know go to your car and check in yeah just to check in but um i try to like because i tried leaving my phone in a different room but i tend to always go yeah oh so you make it hard to i make it very

hard to get to my phone during work hours because then i won't be able to focus wow i like that but what if someone calls you i mean my team can reach me on slack um people can reach me also on discord so i really want to just talk to my team during work hours um again that's why i go during lunch and i check on uh you know just in case yes just emergencies or anything like that but aside from that same with working out like i can't go to the gym with my phone man like i just get distracted yeah i just like be so bored without you would i mean as long as you have music you can blast oh so how do you do just just an ipad like an ipod whatever okay yeah or like a phone that is not connected to right yeah so you bring

a music device yeah or or typically i take my other phone that isn't really connected to right yeah so you bring a music device yeah or or typically i take my other phone that isn't really connected to anything just don't connect it to that makes sense was there any difficult decisions pivotal moments that stand out to you along your journey that you had to make man i think the most difficult one was really leaving my family back home and and you know in the back of my mind thinking that i'm gonna miss out on a lot of memories with them right because i i spent 10 years without seeing my family yeah i couldn't yeah i couldn't go back home because my mom accidentally washed my passport when she was visiting me once i went to the club in la came back left my passport in my pants she washed them so my visa got destroyed holy so to get a new visa i had to exit the u.s which was i was sketched out about that because

i just didn't know if they would give it to me what if they were like never mind you're rejected for x and they don't even need to tell you why so yeah and and my mom couldn't come to the states so we we couldn't see each other for 10 years. 10 years, bro? 10 years, bro, yeah. That is crazy. It's crazy. I left, my brothers were like 12, 13, came back.

They were like grown-ass men, bro. Yeah. Like 6'2", 6'1", mad men. Crazy. Holy. You know? So, yeah, it was crazy. But that was one thing.

The other thing was really quitting my job. I think it was like a daunting step, you know? Right. But you were making money, right? I was making more money than the executive at the project. It was crazy. But still, you have this – you're kind of trained to believe that a 9-to-5 is much more stable than being on your own, which is not true at all. Because you're really putting your fate in someone else's hands.

Yeah. And they can show up to work one day and tell you, you're fired, no reason, you know, you're gone. And I'd rather just be in control of my own life rather than having someone else dictate when I can show up to work or not. That was something hard to kind of take the leap. But once I did it and I just saw how not, you know scary it is and and how stable it was for me dude it was good that's a good point man i like what you said about the stability because people assume nine to fives are stable but they're really not they're not man and you're just replaceable yeah you're like a light bulb you're very replaceable man like anytime you just don't

make sense financially to these people, they will fire you. No questions asked. They just, it's business. And you can't really tell them like anything. They'll just fire you and you just, you're on your own. Right. So for me, I want to be in control of my own life. I want to dictate when I take my time off.

I want to dictate when I go to lunch, when I go to the doctor. And I don't want to have anybody telling me what to do or whatever so um yeah man that's that's just i don't know it's it's something that's been put in their head you know through through society by society and it's like i'll get a job it's stable yeah but it's really not no it's really not man when you have kids are you going to send them to public school i don't know i haven't thought that far yes and no i want to i don't want to spoil my kids too much i mean i would spoil the girls but the boys i want them to be like warriors so it'll it'll depend on you know if it's if it's a girl or a boy it's scary man it is it is and i don't know i don't know if i want to do

that i might want to homeschool my kids yeah i was thinking i've been thinking about homeschooling my kids more and more recently especially with like you know where we're headed in the world and the things that i want my kids to learn and not um and i kind of want to teach them life my way i feel like when you go to school you're taught life by someone else's you know rules yeah and i think rules in society are just made up yeah it's right like once you start working for yourself and you just live life on your own terms you realize that everything around us is just made up rules by people who just don't know what they're doing right and and it's like i want to make up my own rules i want to live by my own rules so yeah man it's scary i mean i just saw this clip i think

gary v was talking about it he's scared about his kids because part of our edge is the environment we grew up in and a lot of successful people don't come from money yep so it's something that's it's it's something that you have to think about when you have money and how you want to position your kids um through that because i don't want to make my kids not struggle because if you if you look if you notice everybody like every billionaire or everyone who's really made it in life has come from very difficult right beginnings right and i want to i want to i want to give my kids a good life but at the same time i want to teach them hardship

and i want to make sure they appreciate what they have right like that's very important gratitude is what got me here right one thing i noticed amongst you know americans is life is so easy here man compared to other places and they take things for granted and that is an edge that i had over everyone else coming to the states just by just by you being a citizen and having the opportunity to be in the u.s just to be here present on the soil is such a blessing for you that most people just don't realize it right but me having to go through 10 years just to get my green card just to eventually become a citizen not being able to see my family coming from a place where you can't even get payment processors to run your own

business yeah yeah in lebanon um you know you just realize how blessed you are just to be in the states yeah so that's something that i try to instill in people and really show and that's what i want to instill in my kids yeah people have no idea like other countries i mean this has got to be one of the best ones to live in man when when you realize and that's something funny funny enough like elon musk he grew up in canada and he came to the u.s and he even said like america is where all dreams come true wow yeah it's and it's it's true the opportunity here it's the land of opportunity you know as cliche as that is yeah and there's there's nowhere in the world where you can make things happen

more than the u.s yeah and um i'm so thankful and blessed and grateful to be able to realize that at an early age by, you know, living elsewhere and coming here. And again, like I said, I want to be able to instill that in my kids and make sure they're aware of that because that's going to get them way farther. It's crazy, man. They're doing studies on gratitude and how it actually leads to more opportunities now. Dude, gratitude is the number one driving factor for me yeah with my success the second i lose sense of gratitude whether it's because i made a lot of money or whatever it is that i'm going through i noticed that i'm starting to slow down and as soon as i you know kind of get knocked down and i feel grateful again for the things

that i have i'm back doing 10 times better than before so grateful gratitude and being grateful is something that you want to always keep at the forefront of your like mind yeah and it's a daily practice for sure every day when i wake up i write down five things i'm grateful for yeah i've done that for two years yeah and you should do it however way you know like speaks to you right whether like going in the balcony and looking out into your beautiful view or whatever it is, taking a morning walk or just appreciating what God has given you. It'll really get you far in life. And I've noticed the people that aren't grateful in life, dude, it always catches up to them.

And they just are miserable. Just like very miserable people you know yeah because we have rich friends that are let's be honest they're not yeah they're not happy man and they're just they're not they don't have this peace of mind you can be rich you can be you know super balling have every car and mansion but if you don't have this peace of mind and this gratitude just within you man you're you're struggling you're struggling yeah no it's the trade-off i had to find in myself the past few years because there's been points where i've had money where i could retire but i wouldn't be entirely happy yeah you know what i

mean the whole point is really to do what you want and and be happy doing it and just be at ease yeah like you want to be able to travel and just like enjoy it to the fullest and exactly be grateful for it right and if you have if you always have things on your mind and you're worried and you're you're just chasing stuff and you're not taking a moment to just take things in and what god has given you then you're never going to be happy you're just and i've been through this and that's why i'm I'm saying this because that has been something that I finally was able to realize over the past couple of years myself. Yeah. And it really helped me, you know, progress so much faster.

Yeah, no, I love that because right now I'm at the point where I'm making a little less than prior years, but I'm happier. Yeah. So I gave up making more, but i'm so much happier and healthier in life i can see that man i've seen you like just do your thing and not really do what other people are doing um dude look at you man like you have your own studio that's crazy no for real i could have launched a course and made millions i could have done all this stuff but i think i'm at a good point this is wild bro like you're in the wind and it's yeah you know big ups for that like i remember when we were running jersey store jersey that your jersey

yeah yeah those are the days crazy bro and then yeah now you're hosting like successful people ultra successful people yeah on your show so man you too man you you were at like five mil back then now you're at over 30 yeah it's awesome yeah just again man it's it's the gratitude is it's never giving up it's continuously just staying hungry um you know never getting cocky yeah yeah i've noticed that again a lot of people just get cocky they they it's the ego right the ego just gets so big where they think they know it all i'm the type of person that always wants to learn from everybody yeah whether you know a beginner or an expert and i'm the type of person that always wants to learn from everybody yeah whether you know a beginner or an expert and i'm still paying for mentors and i'm always going to masterminds and i just want to grow and meet more people and network and grow more businesses and chase more

opportunity i mean that's what life is about right like i think we're here to build a legacy. Like the only way to escape that is through legacy. The only way to escape that is if you leave a legacy. Right. And that's what we're here for. We're here for, you know, just building something that will transcend onto generations and generations where people will remember us and remember what we left behind. Yeah. And that's what I want to do. You know, I want to leave a legacy where I will remember us and remember what we left behind yeah and that's what i want to do you know i want to leave a legacy where i will be remembered nice do you fear death i don't um i went through a phase where i kind of did yeah for a bit very short period um but that's when your faith in god is not strong right you know when your faith in god is strong you don't really fear anything because you know it's like you know the

other day my uncle gave me this this example and he was saying that imagine you're in russia right and and you're one of putin's like main men like you can do whatever you want you can do anything because you'd like like putin got my back yeah but imagine someone's much more powerful than putin got got your back right that's that's you can do you can do anything in the world and nobody's gonna stand in your way for sure that's that's how i think about it and i don't really fear death because i think everything is in god's hands and you know i'm here to like i said help people leave you know leave a positive impact leave a legacy continue to build build my empire and and just and just leave the world a better place.

Love it, man. Love that. What's next for you and where can people find you? I'm building a SaaS right now. It's an ad spy tool that's going to have both Facebook and Instagram and TikTok ads. I want to build a lot more SaaS in the e-com space. I really want to focus on the e-com space because that's my bread and butter. More brands, of course. I'm growing my uh personal brand on youtube i'm gonna start dropping

a lot of youtube content nice um just lifestyle value a lot of that kind of like alex hormozy with you know my own swag in it yeah yeah and um yeah people can find me on instagram at jad kantari um youtube at jack nice you got a. Nice. You got a Discord too, right? I got a Discord too. Yeah. It has 700 members in it. We drop gems in there all the time. I also have a mentorship, a one-on-one mentorship.

Nice. Where we help people start their online e-commerce businesses and scale. We have students making $1.2 million a month, $500 a month so on so yeah it's crazy man yeah drop shipping changed my life that's how i got started bro i love econ man i'm it's it's i still get that like that feeling of of just you know fire under my butt when i wake up in the morning and i want to like scale a brand or make a new brand and and scale it sell it it's just i will never lose that passion for it i don't know it's just it's really my passion it's an exciting space man waking up to money i mean dude waking up to like a dashboard that says you just made 10k

while you slept while you slept like what's better than that yeah there's nothing better than that man it's hard to find that yeah it's it's that like exciting feeling that you get like that rush of endorphins that you get in the morning when you're just like refreshing your dashboard it's like 10k 11k 12k dude you're just sitting there like just making so much money you're going out partying you're traveling you're making money it's i i don't know like what's a better deal than that yeah you could work wherever you want man yeah and and again like i said man the barrier to entry is so so like so little because if you wanted to go open up a chain for example like subway or jack in the box or whatever you're really looking at a 250k investment and you're not really making anything back for the

first six months to a year right and you don't even know if you're gonna be profitable like that's how crazy it is to actually go open up a restaurant or whatever so the barrier to entry with ecom is so small yeah that just doesn't especially now with organic like it just doesn't make sense not to do it absolutely thanks for coming on man dude thank you for having me man i'm so proud of you bro thanks bro thanks for watching guys and i'll see you guys next time