Digital Social Hour - How Social Media Can Transform Your Dating Life| Logan Duong DSH #1285
Episode Date: March 31, 2025Can social media really transform your dating life? 🤔 Tune in now to this electrifying episode of the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly, where we break down all the insider secrets to dating succ...ess in the modern age! 🚀 From building a magnetic social media presence to navigating dating apps like a pro, our guest Logan shares his unconventional journey and game-changing tips to level up your love life. 💡 Discover how Logan harnessed the power of Instagram and dating apps to create meaningful connections, why confidence (not looks!) is the ultimate game-changer, and how maintaining mystery keeps the spark alive. ✨ Plus, shocking truths about dating dynamics, the role of mindset, and what it really takes to attract the right partner in today’s digital world! 💬 Don’t miss out! Watch now and subscribe for more insider secrets. 📺 Hit that subscribe button and stay tuned for more eye-opening conversations on the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! 🔥 Let’s talk dating, relationships, and everything in between. Join the conversation today! 🎙️ CHAPTERS: 00:00 - How Women Are Born 00:27 - Intro 01:17 - How You Got Into This Space 04:59 - Looks Don’t Matter 06:25 - Nice Guys Finish Last 10:07 - Aries - Protect Yourself From EMF 10:51 - Would You Rather Be Hated or Ignored 12:29 - Why I Have Multiple Girlfriends 17:01 - How to Get a Girl to Commit 20:56 - Value of Men and Women 24:08 - Tate's Desired Family Size 29:48 - Dating Women with Attitudes 31:28 - Convincing Parents to Drop Out 32:57 - Boosting Dating App Matches 36:28 - Women's Body Count Limits 40:48 - Simps and OnlyFans Impact 44:44 - Dealing with Cheating 48:57 - Common Mistakes Killing Attraction 52:57 - Where to Find Logan 53:39 - Keys to a Successful Relationship 54:48 - Attracting Girls Without Money 55:30 - Prioritizing Mission Over Relationships APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: jenna@digitalsocialhour.com GUEST: Logan Duong https://www.instagram.com/theloganduong SPONSORS: AIRES TECH: https://airestech.com/ LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ #selfimprovement #developattraction #femalenature #highvaluemen #howtoattractwomen
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We start out down here, girls start up here, right?
But here's the catch for girls.
Women are based upon their ethics, their morals, and their values.
And so women are born up here, men are born down here.
And over time, women can go down by losing their morals, ethics, and values,
and men can go up by building their power, status, and success.
So girls are born as queens, guys are born as slaves.
All right, guys, we got Logan here today.
He is going to help you pick up some ladies.
Thanks for coming on, man.
Yeah, let's do it.
Let's have him on, bro.
Appreciate it.
Have you always had game or was it a developed skill?
Yeah, so for me it's interesting.
So I got dragged into like this whole
give me advice space accidentally.
And it was just from a clip of my buddy
posting like a video of me
making out some trick that I met within like 15 seconds and it went viral
but the goal of that clip the reason why he posted is because we had a clothing brand at the time
and we're trying to promote the clothing brand and we're like okay the clothing brand
his name was Unbounded and we're like okay Unbounded pulls bitches and like
video went viral you know but no one bought any clothing everyone in the
comments was asking how do you get girls? How did he do that?
What are the fuck, he's short, he's 5'7",
he's Asian, never seen this happen before, what the fuck?
And so it went viral, and then I started replying
to people's questions, whatever,
and kinda spread into this thing of me giving advice to guys.
But before that, I got out of a really bad relationship,
heartbroken, toxic ex-girlfriend,
she had social media, a bunch of guy friends,
I had learned the hard way
about that shit, and so, you know,
eventually I started searching up on YouTube
when I was younger, you know, how do I get better
with girls, you know, why'd she do these things,
whatever, and I found my mentor, Coach Corey Wayne,
and so he's the guy that helped me out,
and I know him very, very well now,
but yeah, I watched a bunch of his videos,
started getting to know the girls,
started improving my life, and I started sharing his work
with everyone else, but everyone was like, dude, I improving my life and I started sharing his work with everyone else.
But everyone was like, dude, I want to learn from you.
This guy's like 50, he's old, he's bald, he's talking about paging bitches and emailing
bitches.
So it was a little bit outdated.
And you know, so I started talking about how to use social media dating apps and a bunch
of other things.
And that's where guys like, okay, this is dope, this is new, this is what's right now.
It's a new era, right?
Yeah, it's way different. Because before you would pick them up in person,
but now with the apps, it's digital.
Yeah, it's like once you have a social presence, bro,
we don't have to leave our fucking houses.
It's all automated basically.
And there's different setups too.
Like I have my girlfriend and she's my main chick,
she is on other dating apps for other girls.
And she'll see swiping on other girls
to bring me over other chicks for like three summers
just hanging out.
What? Are you out. Yeah, yeah
I see the text. I'll say
I'm sending Michael sartain screenshots because she's like she's over here in Cali and we're in Vegas and she was like matching with girls
In Vegas, she's like, okay, we'll put you guys in a group chat. So my day in life is automated. I automated that shit
But when it comes to like regular, you know for the average dude, right?
And we get to talk about that later,
I'll teach you guys how to do that shit later.
But for the average dude, like,
you need to have some sort of social presence
or Instagram or something.
Because even if you meet a girl in person,
she's still gonna ask for your Instagram.
She's like, okay, let me see your Instagram.
Because what they're looking for is,
are you a fucking weirdo?
It's like, because if you have no social media
and you're just an alien, right?
That's what you look like.
You have just an anonymous like Instagram profile, whatever. They're like you're just an alien, right? That's what you look like you've just an anonymous like Instagram profile whatever they're like who's this guy, right?
And so they're trying to get more info on you
Which is great
If you have a good social media
You don't give away too much info like if you look at my Instagram right see me with girls
You see me with cars see me in nice places
They're gonna be like wondering what do what does he do?
But that's a good setup for me, right? And it creates that spark of attraction,
that interest that gets her to get hooked
and ask more questions, right?
And so if you could build something like that,
that's something you need to do.
And I'll teach you guys how to do that as well.
And like in my courses, whatever, you know,
it's podcasts, I'll teach you guys how to do that
because it's very, very valuable.
And I have always had social media.
So back in like middle school, I had my own social media because I wanted to And I have always had social media. So back in like middle school,
I had my own social media
because I wanted to help grow other businesses' social media.
So I used to walk up to restaurants,
tell them, yo, I'm gonna grow your social media,
and I would help them do that.
Because I understood that, yo,
if you have a bigger social media presence,
you're gonna be able to sell more stuff
or just at least raise the prices
or do something that helps you raise the value
of your brand.
Easily, yeah. Yeah, and so that's something that, you, you know, raise the value of your brand, right?
Yeah.
And so that's something that also could build a community too.
It was like when you post your customers and your clients, which I see you doing all the
time, it builds that community and builds a network, which is like another value add
onto the stack.
And I understood that for a long time.
And you know, I did it for myself and for other businesses.
I didn't really see that many other guys doing it, but dude, in high school, whatever,
it got me so many leads, it got me so many people,
businesses, whatever, at such a young age.
And whenever I met girls or whatever,
they'd always be talking about me, about my Instagram.
They knew who I was,
even from girls from different schools, right?
And that helps out a lot.
And so even when you're out of high school or college,
which I think is honestly the best time to get girls,
you're around the most girls, right?
Because when you're out of high school and college you know that there's not there's no social circles
like you have to build your own stuff and so social media will help you out with that.
Yeah the smma ty lopez days man those are the days yeah the og days yeah he put on a lot of
people with that stuff oh yeah yeah shout out to ty yeah i think you give hope to a lot of guys
because like you said earlier you're short yep uh You're Asian like most women like don't like short guys allegedly right? Yeah
I mean you run into that this thing is like I generally looks don't matter right they they magic certain said they help you get
Your foot in the door, but I've also seen super tall guys taller than you Jack more super fucking jacked suck with bitches
Yeah, like they can't talk to any girls
They get their foot in the door the girls talked them, and they realize this guy's a weirdo.
So it doesn't really matter to a certain extent, right?
But if you are super jacked, you're tall, you're rich,
and you can talk to girls, bro, you're chilling.
But, very, very rare.
So the guys who are good with girls,
what I've noticed is it doesn't really matter
how tall they are, it doesn't matter what they look like.
I've seen guys pull girls in wheelchairs.
I've pulled girls in wheelchairs.
I went to a museum park, put myself in a wheelchair,
went around just getting girls' Instagrams and numbers
just for fun, right?
And so just to test it out.
So it's definitely possible.
And it doesn't really matter what you look like or whatever
because here's the thing, bro.
It's like girls genuinely only care about one thing
and it's their feelings.
That's it.
They don't care about how you feel towards them. They don't care about one thing, and it's their feelings. That's it. They don't care about how you feel towards them.
They don't care about any of that shit.
They care only about how they feel towards you.
And this goes down to every deepest level.
You can do everything for a chick.
You can be super rich.
You can buy a girl a bag.
You can buy her a fucking car.
But if she doesn't like you, it doesn't really matter.
She would rather just spend five minutes
with the guy that she likes,
rather than getting a car and a bag and all that shit.
Agreed.
Yeah.
Do nice guys finish last?
Nice guys always finish last.
And the reason because nice guys finish last is because they put everyone else before them.
And when you put everyone else before you, you're always going to be losing.
Because when you put other people above you and you put people on a pedestal,
people don't treat you the right way.
Right? Whenever you put a girl on a pedestal, whenever you put a girl above you and you put people on a pedestal, people don't treat you the right way. Right? Whenever you put a girl on a pedestal, whenever you put a girl above you,
basically as if she's better than you, which really she's not. All people are, you
know, however you treat them, right? How you view yourself is, you know, very very
important. But if you view someone better than you, instinctively they're
gonna treat you less than you. Right? But if you treat people as equal or
sometimes even like less than you, they're also if you treat people as equal, or sometimes even like less than you,
they're also gonna reciprocate that.
It's just how it is.
And so, you know, the guys who are assholes,
the guys who are nonchalant,
basically treating everyone like whatever,
those guys are most attractive.
And the reason is because girls can trust that more.
Because the guys are not trying
to get anything from the girl.
The reason why the girls don't really like nice guys,
and the guys who are people pleasers, is because it's weird. You can't trust it.
It's like why is this guy being so nice to me? Because if you have
everything in the world there's no reason for you to be going out trying to
do a bunch of shit for people unless you're trying to get something from them.
Right? And so that's why girls instinctively understand that this guy,
there's something off about this guy. The nice guy seems too desperate. Why is he
chasing after me so much?
He has nothing else better to do
than chase and text me and call me all day?
That's literally what they're thinking.
And the guy who's an asshole,
the guy who has a bunch of other options,
they're always questioning, does he like me?
Is he into me?
Why is he not texting me?
Why is he not calling me?
What else is he doing?
Is he talking to other girls?
She's already hooked, bro.
So that's the thing is,
the reason why the nice guy loses
is because he gives away all of his cards.
He gives away all of his mysteriousness.
He tells the girl he likes her.
He shows too much interest.
And now that's boring.
And when the thing is,
predictableness and being too direct
and sharing everything about yourself is boring to women.
Absolutely. Because you have to women. Absolutely.
Because you have to create this story.
If you read any book that women buy,
like, Finish Shades of Grey, whatever, it's a story, right?
It's not a, hey, this is what I am, this is what I like,
here's what I'm gonna do with you, whatever,
it just ruins everything, right?
So women wanna be in a story,
and when you ruin that story by being too nice, direct,
you know, telling her everything, how you feel, whatever, it's actually even scientific
proof that like women prefer men whose feelings are unclear.
Actually scientifically proven, yes.
They prefer men whose feelings are unclear.
Yeah, because the thing is when you give away all your cards, bro, there's nothing that
they can play with.
It's not fun.
The game is no longer fun to them.
Even with a relationship too. And so even with a relationship with it's not fun the game is no longer fun to them yeah right even with the relationship too and so even
with the relationship it's like you cannot be getting complacent when you
complacent with the girl she's gonna start you know seeking attention validation
from other people or she's gonna start seeing that fun somewhere else it's
doing other things with their friends whatever so you always want to be the
source of that you always want to be the source of the fun the attention whatever
may be in creating those emotions so And so even in a relationship,
you have to create that roller coaster, right?
What is he doing?
What is he up to?
Oh, he just flew to some other state for two weeks.
What the fuck?
I see him posting on Instagram.
Where is he at, right?
So even in a relationship, you have to create that drama.
Right, even Tate says, you have to create the drama, right?
It's better that you create the drama
rather than some other people.
Because women are always going to crave it.
They don't crave the drama, they crave the emotions.
They crave the feeling, right? I tell guys all the time, another reason why always going to crave it. They don't crave the drama, they crave the emotions. They crave the feeling, right?
I tell guys all the time,
another reason why you need to have social media,
another reason why it's okay to be the asshole,
is it's better to be hated than to be ignored.
And we understand this about social media too,
is in social media world,
it is much better to be slandered and talked shit upon
and being hate or canceled than to be a nobody, right?
It is much better to have one than the other.
And obviously it's better to be talked good upon, but that's not always the case, right?
So even in social media world and in every other aspect of life, it is much better to
be bold, be direct, share what you believe in and, you know, have some haters than to
be a nobody.
Because dude, there's going to be so many guys that, you know, some haters than to be nobody. Because dude there's gonna be so many guys that you know are gonna be afraid
to say and do what they want because they're afraid of getting canceled
they're afraid of getting hated or girls not liking them.
Doesn't matter bro it's all it's all publicity right?
If this girl doesn't like you she talks whatever about you and guess what
there's gonna be her friends. It is what it is yeah.
So many people when Dan Bozarian came on the scene hated it
Yeah, and not he was able to channel that into like a huge following. Yeah, you know, so I agree with you
Yeah, you have to you have to even in the book 40 laws of power talks
but right and just you it's much better to move with being bold and direct and and to be talked shit upon than to be
Ignored because if you're adored bro, it's like you don't inspire emotions. You don't invoke anything
This is why girls her prefer being with a toxic asshole that's
why you see girls stay in a relationship longer with a toxic asshole
than to be in a relationship with a nice guy they always leave and dump the nice
guys but then they happen to stay with the toxic assholes and they complain
about it so which would you rather be would you rather be the guy who's super
nice being walked upon being dumped and the girl saying, oh, well,
I just wasn't feeling any more, you know, it's not you, it's me.
That's what happens when you're too nice.
That's what happens when you don't evoke her emotions.
Yeah. She's going to start chasing external things besides you.
I can see that. Now you got multiple girlfriends.
So is it open on both ends?
Are they allowed to hook up with other guys?
No, no, no, no, no, no.
The reason why is I don't think that's gonna work, right?
And the thing is I actually think what I do works the best
because I've seen it work for me personally, right?
I've tried to date just one girl, one-on-one.
And for some reason it just doesn't work for me.
For me personally, it doesn't work.
However, I still help guys.
If that's what they want, that's what they want, right?
For me, that is something that it just doesn't work for me. Talking to one girl only,
you know, because you travel a lot, I travel a lot, do a bunch of stuff. And plus I want
to. It's like, I was actually lying to myself back then of like, Oh, I only want to talk
to you, whatever. I was still interested in other girls. And you know, that's actually
not fair to the girl. It's not fair to the girl. It's not fair to me either. And so I
was actually in the past, I was very inauth not fair to me either. And so I was actually, in the past,
I was very inauthentic with what I wanted.
And I was actually lying to the girl, I was lying to myself.
And it wasn't fair.
And the girl could sense it, the girl could feel it.
And you know, I was also unhappy too.
And so I believe that if that's what you want,
then that's what you want.
But for me, I always knew what I wanted,
but society, whatever, friends, family, they shamed me.
Marriage, yeah.
You know, you only talk to one girl, whatever.
Bro, here's the thing.
It is actually incredibly rare for a guy to be talking to multiple girls.
It's actually the other way around now.
Most girls are talking to at least five other dudes.
At least.
That's crazy.
At least, bro. At least.
Ask any girl, like, how many guys are you playing right now?
I have a few, right?
That's how it is.
I got a roster. I got a roster. Every single girl, bro. And so, it used to be the opposite, but now it's like most many guys are you playing right now? I have a few, right? That's how it is. I got a roster.
Yeah, I got a roster.
Every single girl role.
And so it used to be the opposite,
but now it's like most guys are virgins.
More girls have higher body counts than men now.
Right.
Yeah, so it's completely flipped.
But for me, the reason why I like to have
multiple girlfriends and I like talking to multiple girls
is just, you know, that's just what I want.
That's what I like.
And I've been able to negotiate for it, right?
You don't get what you want in life,
you get what you negotiate.
And so I've been able to just very directly tell girls,
like hey, even from the get-go, when I first meet girls
and people are like, that's unfair,
you're manipulating the girl, you're lying to the girl
by having other girls inside.
No dude, on the first date, I'm telling the girl,
I have other girls, I'm not gonna settle down.hmm so if you want to stay with me great we're gonna
have some fun and I'm gonna take care of you otherwise cool you walk away but
they never walk away wow because being direct in that way is so respectful like
imagine a guy telling you directly like hey this is who I am this is what I
believe in if you fuck with it dope if you don't yeah cuz they don't got to worry about being cheated on behind their back exactly, bro
So the thing is girls accept what they respect
So when they accept it because they respect it
That's it. Yeah, so the thing is like you'll see a bunch of girls
Being okay. Yeah, there's like a clip going viral. It's like hey
Would you rather be with the rich guy, but he cheats on you, or be with a broke dude,
but he's completely low, head over heels,
and loves you with all his heart?
I'd choose the rich guy.
It's not because he has money,
it's just the fact that there's other things about him
that she'll accept.
And so girls will accept,
and they don't mind sharing an alpha male, right?
Girls don't mind sharing alpha male.
And if you ask a girl, hey, would you rather share an alpha or stay completely loyal to beta?
They're always going to say, I'd rather share an alpha.
Right? So it is what is.
You ask any girl, any girl that has been with a guy that she really likes,
she's going to be okay with sharing him with other girls.
And the way to set it up as a guy though is for me, I did the Dan Bilzerian approach.
Like I approached her like, hey, this is what I want.
You know, I got a relationship.
I was like, yo, I know what I want now.
I know what I'm looking for in a girl. Whatever.
And so I told her, yo, like, you know, if you want to be taken serious by me,
you want to be in a serious relationship with me, you know, one, you can't have guy friends.
Can't be having social media.
Wow, not even guy friends?
No guy friends, no social media.
So she deleted her social media. Wow. You know guy friends? No guy friends, no social media. So she deleted her social media.
Wow.
You know, and no whole friends either, right?
I told her, yo, if you want to be with me,
I'm going to take care of you, whatever.
You know, I'm going to love you.
But these are my requirements.
These are my standards.
Because I understand that when a girl has social media,
what is that?
She's advertising to other men that she is single,
or she's open, or she's looking for another Another lineup the thing is about a girl having guy friends each single guy friend is a guy that she has fucked
The guy that she will fuck or guy that she's currently fucking. That's the thing about girl who has guy friends and
They use as a plan B in a backup option
I'll give you a question is who are you gonna be more committed to?
Are you mean more committed to the girl that you are only talking to?
Or are you going to be more committed to a girl where you have other girls on the side and you have other options?
Only talking to.
Exactly. So girls feel the same way.
It's like, yo, I want the most commitment out of a girl. How do I get that?
Get rid of the social media. Get rid of the guy friends.
Because here's the thing.
Let's say even divorce rates.
You think the divorce would be as high as it is now
if girls weren't incentivized to get money?
Girls are getting paid to get divorced.
Imagine if it was like, hey,
you actually lose money if you get divorced.
You actually don't get the kids if you get divorced.
You think divorces are gonna keep going up?
No, they'll be way less.
Exactly.
So the thing is like, they're getting incentivized
to have other options, to move on quicker. It's not good. It's not good for anyone. And the thing is like they're getting incentivized to have other options, to move on quicker.
It's not good. It's not good for anyone.
And the thing is, like if she's cool and I'm cool, we're gonna stay together.
The thing is about girls, bro, is they can have everything under the sun.
But if for whatever reason, if you are not leading the relationship, you can be the best guy for her.
You provide for her whatever, but if you're not leading you're not in invoking her emotions she's gonna walk
away no guy's gonna do that bro every guy if the girl is chill she doesn't
have to evoke no emotions she could just be chilling we're not gonna leave her if
she doesn't cause any headaches we're not gonna leave her yeah yeah I think that's
the difference between guys and girls is like girls naturally need these things
guys we don't need those things right like we can just talk to girl in your
relationship with her she could be chill and we're like
alright this is dope just not how it works yeah I wish I wish not I've seen Myron talk about this
where girls initiate divorce way more than guys right oh 100% yeah 75 or some
shit like that is like 75% divorce are initiated by women or some shit like most
yeah yeah yeah cuz they just get bored right? They get bored bro. I don't know
I don't know any guy that's talked that's been like you know what this girl's this girl cooks for me
She didn't talk to anyone else and she loves me so much
Man, I'm just gonna divorce her. No no you've never heard that before bro. No guys ever, but I guarantee bro
I've heard this from girls all the time. You know he was perfect. He's great with the kids. Oh, he loved me so much
But man, I just had to go fuck the other dude
Bro here all the time, bro. It's sad. It's it's fucked
That's why a lot of guys go deep in this red pill shit cuz they're like, oh fuck
I hate women or you know, this pisses me off. What's your take on the red pill stuff?
You know, some of it's good. It's truthful, but it's not the solution, right?
Right. This is a problem problem problem like oh, you know, know these are all problems but what's the solution to this how can
we actually do something with it that's the one thing is like the red pill is a
lot of problem awareness which is dope right but there's not a lot of solutions
and so it gets guys stuck in just folks max I hate women I hate women I because
they do this this that true but there's other things you could do to win right
and so I'm not mad it It's like, okay, cool.
Girls are much easier to move on
and they're only little to their emotions.
Okay, then I'm gonna do everything in my power
to invoke as much emotions
and get the most out of it as well, right?
Okay, cool.
If I make you feel good, then,
and you wanna keep talking to me,
then you can't be having social media, right?
So, all right, cool. I make you feel good. You wanna be in a relationship with me. Well then you can't be having social media. Right. Right? So, alright, cool.
I make you feel good.
You want to be in a relationship with me, well, you can't have guy friends.
It's not saying like I'm making them do it.
It's more of like, yo, you like me, you like the feelings I give you, you like the relationship
that we're in.
If you want this to continue, these are my standards.
These are my boundaries.
That's how I lay it out with girls and that's why I get what I want.
Yeah.
Basically. You're never getting married.
No, no. The thing is maybe back in like a hundred years ago,
20 years ago when marriage was like, I don't know, like not tied down by the government
and like the government didn't have their fingers everywhere in it.
Then yeah, but dude, the government has their fingers in it and it's weird now because like
girls now incentivize to get divorced and to take the kids.
And it's just too much of a headache.
I'd rather just tell her, yo, we're married.
Yo, you're my wifey.
Cool, that's better than actually legally getting married.
Also, 120 years ago, a lot of the wives were virgins.
Yeah, that too, bro.
Yeah, so it's like now we're paying over price.
It's like whole inflation.
Yeah.
Paying over price for the same thing, yeah.
These body counts just disturb me.
I see videos every day about it.
Yeah.
And that's the thing.
I made a video, right?
I made a video talking about, you know, how men and women are valued.
And I got canceled for it back in high school.
And I said, men are valued based upon their power, success and status.
Right. But here's the catch. We start out down here. Girls start up here. based upon their power, success, and status, right?
But here's the catch.
We start out down here, girls start up here, right?
But here's the catch for girls.
Women are based upon their ethics, their morals, and their values.
And so women are born up here, men are born down here.
And over time, women can go down by losing their morals, ethics, and values,
and men can go up by building their power, status, and success.
So girls are born as queens, guys are born as slaves, right?
But there's an inverse.
Guys can actually build their value, but they're born as nothing, and girls are born with value,
but they can lose their value.
And so that's the catch.
The girls that sleep with a bunch of dudes, they do a bunch of drugs, they're out partying
and showing their titties and ass on TikTok and all these other places.
They're lowering their value.
The reason why girls keep doing it though is because a rapper or celebrity sleeps with them
and now they think, oh well I'm having sex with him so I'm still winning.
It's like no, he's not going to marry you though.
He's not going to take you seriously though. There's a difference, right?
And guys know this but girls don't know this. They've been lied to.
And so they think sleeping with a guy who's rich or successful or whatever is cool.
This is dope.
Like, okay, here's the catch though.
Watch when you want to get married to them, they're not going to want to marry you.
And that's when girls hit the wall, right?
When girls are young, right?
When they're 20, 25, 26, 27, they're having fun.
It's all cool.
Watch when they want to settle down so they're having kids.
Right.
All those guys that they slept with don't want to don't want to marry them
They don't want to take them seriously, and that's when girls hit the wall and realize oh fuck
I should have went to college. I should have wasted time partying and sleeping with a bunch of dudes
I should have actually spent my 20s looking for the right guy
Mmm, because it gets harder as they get older to yeah and got the thing is guys we hit the wall like
Pretty much as soon as fucking possible. Yeah, we hit the wall like pretty much as soon as fucking possible. We hit the wall like 20 when we realized, oh fuck, you know staying where I'm at, you know working at McDonald's,
you know not doing what I want and not chasing after my dreams.
I'm not gonna get to where I want to be. Dude, we hit the wall fast as fuck.
We realized, oh fuck, girls aren't gonna like us if we act like simps. We get destroyed when we act like simps.
So we hit the wall very very soon. All of us have had our heartbreaks at like at least 16, 17, 18, right? like us if we act like simps. We get destroyed when we act like simps.
So we hit the wall very, very soon.
All of us have had our heartbreaks at like
at least 16, 17, 18, right?
So we hit the wall and we realize things aren't working.
Girls don't hit that wall because girls are gonna,
girls can just exist and they'll be winning.
16, 17, 18, 19, all the way till like 25,
they're getting to the clubs for free.
They're having sex with a bunch of famous dudes.
They're gonna hit up and flown out to Dubai, Right? And they don't have to do anything.
They don't really see the wall until what they want they can't get.
That's so true.
You mentioned kids earlier. Is that something you ever want?
Yeah, I want a bunch of kids. For sure.
I want a bunch of kids. I'm probably gonna have some now.
I don't know where they're at.
We'll see.
Tate wants 20 guys.
And he already has some daughters. So he'll probably have like 25-30 kids.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's a lot.
That's nuts.
Elon's at 14.
I think I want like 3 dude.
Yeah.
Anything past 10 is a lot.
Yeah, that is a lot bro.
That is a lot.
But with your method it's doable.
But since I'm with one girl I mean yeah 3 kids is a lot for one woman to carry so.
Yeah we gotta get some more girls.
I need to know how you negotiated this man.
Like this has one girl ever acted out lashed out.
Well, they don't lash out.
The thing is like, like the thing is there's been some girls
that walked away though and that's okay.
Yeah. Right.
It's like some girls are just not with it
and they're not down with it.
And that's completely fine.
That's cool.
Right.
And that's what you have to be willing to lose.
Right. But the thing is a lot of guys, my God, I'm so afraid to lose a girl.
Oh my God, I don't want to do that.
I don't want to make her mad.
It's like, bro, that's thinking from a scarcity.
The other thing is like,
even when that doesn't actually happen
and you just think of abundance, like,
hey, I'm gonna do what I want.
I'm gonna get what I want, whatever,
and everything's gonna be cool.
You tend to win more.
When you're already thinking in a bad position,
you tend to fuck yourself over
and shoot yourself in the foot.
So it's already, you're shooting yourself way too soon down.
You don't want to do that, right?
So always think from abundance is,
hey, always act and whenever I'm coaching a guy
and they ask me about a girl problem,
I'm texting this girl, I'm calling her, whatever,
and she's not responding.
Or, oh, my girlfriend's doing this, what do I do?
And I'm like, okay.
If you had 10 other girls, would you give a fuck?
No, the answer's always no.
Because like, well, let me think about this.
If I had 10 other girls, would I really care about this
if this girl's not texting me?
No, that's abundance, right?
Now the cool skill you could have is to actually
have that abundance without having to have 10 girls.
If you could naturally have that abundance
without needing 10 girls, that's cool, right? So if you could automatically like put that into your mindset that, hey,
I always have other options because you do. Bro, there are more girls out there than you
than you can actually physically approach. There are more women out there, more attractive
women than you can actually approach. If you went to go approach girl every single minute,
you wouldn't even be able to talk to all of them. So it's real. The abundance is real.
Girls automatically know this abundance too.
Girls already have this abundance mindset,
well they already live in it,
but they already have this abundance
somewhat delusional mindset all the fucking time.
They're just programmed with it,
and it works for them, right?
And the thing is for guys,
is a lot of guys have self-limited beliefs.
They don't believe they can do it, right?
They don't believe that I am enough.
And that's the issue is like,
they don't believe that they're enough.
They don't believe that, hey, they are the prize.
If they make themselves the prize,
not just saying they're the prize,
but if you actually make yourself the prize,
you put in the work, right?
And that you are valuable.
A lot of guys don't believe that.
And you know, it's sad to see.
But I'm telling you, once you fix your mindset,
once you fix these things, everything else changes.
The second I started believing in myself more,
the second I started to believe in what I did,
everything started to get better, right?
And so, self-belief is absolutely huge.
Yeah, that confidence is a game changer.
Yeah, that's confidence.
That's, you ask any girl, what do you like in a guy?
Confidence.
Yeah.
Every single time.
You could look hideous, but if you have confidence
and you can make them laugh.
Exactly, yeah.
You can't be a person, you can't,
the thing is, girls are always gonna shit test too for your confidence
And so even if I say I'm a confident dude
And I go out with a chick and she shit test me and I fail
You're not really confident right and girls test me all the fucking time watch these videos
They'd be like oh, so you like talking to multiple girls and they'll shit testing. I'm like yeah, I do yeah
You know it's like little things like that. It's like they're always gonna shit test you
They're gonna tease you or whatever to try to piss you off, try to, you know,
to just test you, to see what you're really made of.
And girls are naturally programmed with this
and they never stop testing.
Every single married guy I talk to,
they're always like, oh my God,
my wife is back at it with the testing
and the bullshit, whatever.
I'm like, bro, the reason why they do this
is because they wanna make sure
and they wanna test your strength.
They want to feel comfortable being around a man that knows who he is and doesn't give a fuck
and doesn't get pushed off his center.
When a girl can push you off of your center, make you weak and make you upset, make you insecure.
Or if a girl told me, oh, you're short and I was like, oh, okay, so you don't like me?
That's being insecure.
When a girl tells me I'm short, I'm like, well, your friends love my height.
It's like, bro, I don't care. It doesn't affect me.
Because I have such, you know, a strong belief and confidence in myself.
I don't care.
And when you don't care, you start to become more successful.
And you guess what?
The person who cares the least has the most power.
And this is why it's very, very important.
Going back to the nice guy asshole thing, like the guys who care the least have the most power.
That's why girls are attracted to them.
Right.
And girl never wants to feel like she has more power than you.
But if she feels like she has more power than you, she bounces.
Because they're in their masculine energy.
Exactly.
Yeah, power is not a feminine thing.
Power is a very masculine thing.
Feminine energy is all about nurturing, caring, and relationships.
So when guys move into their feminine, when they start calling and texting
and reaching out to the girls a bunch, when the guy starts asking, yo, what are we? When the guy starts asking, yo, can we be boyfriend and girlfriend?
Right? He's moving into his feminine. He starts caring about nurturing, loving, relationships.
He moves into his feminine. That's going to turn a feminine woman off. Feminine women want a guy who's masculine.
Masculine energy is all about drive, purpose, and mission, right? And this is why girls love guys who are on those things.
So assholes, for example, I wouldn't say being an ass,
and we're gonna keep talking about this,
but the reason why the girl prefers the asshole
over the nice guy is because he has more masculine,
dominant traits than the nice guy.
Not saying he's perfect, however.
There's more perfect things than being an asshole.
However, he has just more attractive traits. The fact that he doesn't give a fuck about what anyone thinks right back
He could just move on doesn't care like about what the girl thinks whatever and he has other options, right?
He's not afraid to be an asshole to her and so the reason why she finds that more attractive because you trust it more
Right, it's more authentic than the guy who's like, oh my god
I'll do anything for you and she and he simps for her trying to send her money, whatever. That is like begging and trying to buy her attention
and sex or whatever.
That's weird.
That comes off unnatural as fuck.
The asshole is just coming off more natural
and that's why he's more attractive.
Could you date a woman that had an attitude?
No, I don't even talk to girls that much.
There's been so many times where I've been on a date
with a chick and she starts pulling out some attitude I know her and it's maybe it's a test
maybe it's real maybe she has some issues whatever and she starts freaking out
about something like alright cool I'm just gonna drop you off and she'd be like
why why what's happening what's wrong like no I just don't have time for this
that's it yeah I move on and then she always hits me up later she's like oh why
did you drop me off well why are we still are you still cool with me do you
like me?
What's wrong?
But hey, we can meet up, we can hang out if you fix your attitude, right?
Once you fix your attitude, we can meet up.
We can have some fun, right?
But I'm not going to hang out with you if you have a bad attitude, if you have whatever going on.
I try to make my life drama-free as fuck, bro.
Drama-free as fuck.
That's why I am super honest with everyone about everything
It's no longer like trying to lie or trying to foment that shit
It's like dude, this is what I want this one looking for and that's it
And so any girl tries to cause trouble or whatever start get out of my life. That's it. Yeah walk away
You got to protect your peace man, dude, cuz we got a lot of shit to do during the day
We don't want to be coming home and dealing with other fires. Yeah, exactly, bro
Yeah, when you're when you're focused on other bigger things,
like bro the last thing you worry about
is some chick causing much of drama.
She should be at least some sort of piece cooking you food,
helping you out, doing the dishes.
Those are the things that guys really really love.
And I give advice to girls all the time about that shit,
dude, if you wanna keep a guy,
you want that celebrity whatever, bro.
These are the things you gotta do.
Cook, clean, X, Y, Z, all these things do. Cook, clean, XYZ, all these things.
And they're like, I don't want to do that. Alright, then have fun being a cat lady.
I got to hear about your conversation with your Asian parents on how you convinced them about this lifestyle.
Oh man dude, yeah yeah. So like, my dad, right? And my mom, obviously. Even when I was like wanting to be an entrepreneur, and probably you too
bro, is like, they're like, oh, but it's risky.
Oh, but you know, you should go to college.
You should go do something else, right?
The thing is, I did listen to them, right?
I joined the military just because my dad was like, yo, you have to either join the
military or go to college.
Yeah, and I was like, all right, I'll join the military.
Fuck it.
I also like the military too.
Look, it looked dope, right?
It's not what it actually is though.
It's kind of a scam.
Oh, is it?
Oh, 100%.
And we could do another podcast on that shit too, but it's not what it is, right?
And the thing is, I know so many guys who've gone to college just because their parents told them to.
Right, especially Asians.
Oh, 100%, yeah. You gotta be a doctor or some shit, it's like, bro, what the fuck?
The thing is, we've realized now, but there's other ways, but they don't see that and that's okay right but the thing is as a dude you have to be able to do what you want to do despite the consequences and
Good and bad right and there's consequences everything you do in entrepreneurship especially and when I told them I want to be on
Sure, I want to do this. You know they're like oh, that's risky whatever
I just had to show them you just have to show them and now once I'm once I'm successful
Once I'm getting billions of views now. They're like, okay, you should keep oh, we always support you
It's like, oh, of course he did. Oh, of course. Yeah, that's how it is. That's how parents are
That's how mine was too. Yeah, you can't get mad at them
It is what is I even if I was in their shoes, bro
I'd be like I would be telling my kids the same shit. Because it worked for them. Exactly. Yeah, but it's a new era now
Yeah, social media.
And so even with the girls though,
it's like my parents, you know,
girl I got caught by my dad so many times
sneaking girls in my room.
And the thing is bro, like when I was 16, 17,
I was on Tinder.
And this is how I got good with girls actually,
is I was meeting up and matching with girls
who were 20, 21, 22 in college.
Cougars.
Yes bro, Cougars to me, yeah 17, 16. Cause you had to be 18 I thought on Tinder. Did you lie about your age? Yeah, 21, 22 in college. Dang, Cougars. Yes, bro. Cougars to me, yeah, 17, 16.
Yeah, because you had to be 18, I thought, on Tinder.
Did you lie about your age?
Yeah, 16, 17.
Girls do it all the time, too, bro, yeah.
And so I put 16, 17 out, treated it as a game, bro.
And dude, I had girls picking me up from school
because they had cars.
I didn't have a car back then, bro.
So I had bitches picking me up from school.
I had girls taking me to places, whatever,
because I didn't have a car.
So I was like, okay, all the girls my age don't have cars.
Girls who are in college have cars.
They can start talking to these girls.
And plus they were more fun.
And they had more access to stuff.
They could bring me into bars and clubs.
I got exposed to a lot of this stuff
at a really, really young age,
because I was hanging out with older chicks
that brought me into cool parties, whatever.
And some of us were just friends,
some of us were just hooking up, whatever.
But yeah, that was a pretty interesting thing.
And I also kind of went viral on that too.
It was like a thing,
because all my guy friends back in high school,
they're like, oh, how the fuck are you doing this?
What the fuck?
And I just put them all in the method
of getting Tinder, Bumble, and social media stuff,
and they're all grinding out too,
and it worked for them too.
And so I got a lot of experience doing that stuff
when I was younger.
I don't advise guys to do that now if they're young
just because social media, it's not even worth their time,
bro, the day amps are so good.
When I was on Tinder at 16, 17,
when I was like 2015 or some shit, it was so prime.
Tinder, Bumble, Hinge, all these amps
were so fucking good, bro.
Now you literally have to be the top top 0.1% of dudes to actually get some matches.
What caused that you think?
Well there's way more guys on Dating Amps than girls, that's for sure.
And girls only swipe on like one out of like every fucking 20 guys that they see.
And so it's opposite for guys, Guys are mostly swiping on chicks.
So that's the difference.
Also, if you want another tip for guys
on the dating apps as well, is the reason why your score,
and they actually score you on these dating apps.
So to get a higher score on dating apps,
which basically a higher score gets you seen
in front of more people, girls, if you're hot,
you're on, even if you're a mid girl,
you're getting a bunch of a higher score
because everyone's swiping on you as a guy.
Guys are gonna be swiping on these bitches all the time.
But for a guy, to raise your score,
you obviously have to be swiped on
by a lot of attractive women
or just a lot of women in general, right?
But what also lowers your scores
by swiping on a bunch of people.
Because the score actually is determined
by how many people you're swiping on too.
Yes, your score lowers if you swipe on a bunch of people
because guess what, they know that attractive people
aren't liking everyone, right?
Because people only like people at their level or higher.
Right?
And so if you're a hot guy, right,
you're only gonna be swiping on hot girls or nothing else.
And so if you wanna build your score,
especially when you're first starting a dating app,
only swipe on like one out of every 10 girls you see.
It sounds so low, but if you start doing that
for like a month or whatever, you're only gonna start matching with
super hot chicks or you're gonna start being seen by a lot of hotter women.
That's good advice. Yeah dude that's that's prime. So that shit's fire. I always did
that stuff and like for for guys who are you know not used to social media or
dany apps or whatever like you have to be posting good quality pictures check out my
Instagram check out your Instagram, whatever.
Learn how to actually be okay with being in front of the camera.
Stop being so awkward in front of the camera, right?
Because this is something you have to be good at
and it's very, very important.
Absolutely.
Is there a limit on a woman's body count
for you to date them?
There's no specific number.
Obviously if it's like past fucking 10,
that shit's crazy to me
And obviously there's girls out there with like what like a thousand. Yeah a thousand a day
Crazy bro, funny baby XP, bro
Yeah for me it's like, you know, it honestly really depends on like obviously we know that girls who have higher body counts are a lot more
Desensitized to things right?
Like you can't really even evoke their emotions anymore, sex is nothing to them.
And so it really just depends, right? It's like are you talking to a girl that has a lot of issues?
Does she have daddy issues? The thing is I don't really care about body count, I care about the deeper lying issues.
Daddy issues. Does she have a bad relationship with her parents? Right?
Because the thing is, dude, every single girl you talk to who has a huge body count, you ask them,
how's the relationship with your father?
Oh, I hate him.
Oh, I don't even know him.
Oh, he's fucking dead.
Oh, whatever the fuck, oh, he beat my mom.
Like, it's some crazy shit.
Every single time, and a girl has a bunch of issues,
it always stems from the family.
Even for us, bro, a lot of our issues
stem from our families, too.
No, I had mommy issues, bro.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
So, our issues stem from our parents, too. And I care I had mommy issues, bro. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So our issues stem from our parents too.
And I care about more about that than anything else, right?
Because that's gonna figure out a bunch of other things.
Body count is just one part of it.
But I can figure out the deeper line issue.
I'll be able to figure out a bunch of other stuff.
I'm like, cool, is this girl more fun to play with
or more fun to date?
And you have to understand,
there's two different types of girls, bro.
They're gonna be fun.
Some girls are just fun to date,
and some girls are just fun to play with.
Exactly.
And the issue with guys is they treat the girls that are fun to play with like the wifeys
and they get fucked over hard.
You have to treat them differently bro.
And the thing is when you treat a girl who likes to have fun and a girl who is meant
for fun too serious, she's going to walk over you.
She's not going to treat you with respect.
She's not going to take you seriously, whatever.
And so overall though, actually girls don't like being taken seriously at all overall.
When a guy starts to take a girl seriously, he starts to actually give a fuck about what
she says and it allows her words to affect him, that guy is in her eyes weak.
So if a girl can say or do anything to emotionally affect you, you're weak.
Because a guy who has options, a guy who's abundant,
and a guy who is sure about himself wouldn't care.
Yeah.
Right?
Now that doesn't mean you don't set boundaries
and standards, but that means whatever shit test she does,
it doesn't affect you.
And even with a girl making fun of your looks,
your height, anything about you,
you just can't care about it.
You always have to be playful.
And that's the thing is learning how to just be playful
and not give me a fuck is alpha.
When a girl can test a guy and she can make fun of a guy
or she could try teasing a guy and he doesn't give a fuck,
she's like, fuck, this guy's hot.
Because she can't do anything to control him.
Women want mastery over a man that cannot be mastered.
That was a quote from Stefan Arnio.
And it's a super powerful quote
because girls are always gonna be trying to do things to get mastery over a man. She's mastered. That was a quote from Stefan Arnio, and it's a super powerful quote because girls are always
gonna be trying to do things to get mastery over a man.
She's always gonna be trying to do things.
Oh, stop hanging out with your boys.
Stop going out.
Stop doing these things, right?
That make you you.
And if you do those things, you actually listen to her,
which we've seen a lot of guys,
probably our friends that we've lost in the past,
the simping, right?
Guys who start doing all the things that she says,
and then she starts to disrespect him,
she starts to treat him less,
and then eventually she divorces him or cheats on him.
So that's the catch is women want mastery over men
that cannot be mastered.
And what that means is girls are always gonna be
trying to do these things, and it's this forever loop,
but girls wanna tame this beast.
And once they tame the beast, she doesn't want him anymore.
And so you always have to be the beast that can't be tamed.
You always have to be the man that cannot be mastered.
You always have to be him.
And that's the thing is a lot of guys, they get the girl and they give up.
They think the mission's over.
You're in a world for a lot of hurt and suffering.
If you believe that, just getting the girl, you gotta relationship with the girl, everything is over.
That's the first step.
There's a lot more after that.
The bigger step is always your mission and purpose.
And the thing about your mission and purpose
is it never really ends.
Right.
Yeah, I'm still trying to figure mine out.
Yeah, it always keeps evolving.
Like my mission purpose, like five years ago,
is way different, you know?
It always keeps evolving and changing and growing, all right?
And so when you think that, oh, you know, this is it,
this is the goal, like no, dude,
I have a bunch of people talking to me,
hitting me up on Instagram, oh, you made it, bro,
you got the super car. Like no, dude. Like to me, I have a bunch of people talking to me, hitting me up on Instagram. Oh, you made it bro, you got the super car.
Like no dude.
Like to me, I didn't make it.
To them, they made it, right?
If they had it.
But to me it's like no,
there's so much more I need to accomplish.
Yeah, that's just one goal, right?
Yeah, that's just one of the things.
Trying to conquer the world out here.
Yeah, exactly bro, we're trying to take over the world.
Yeah, a lot of simps man.
That's why OF crushes it the way it does,
if we're being honest.
Yeah.
You know, these girls are making stupid money.
I've had a lot of them on the show.
Yeah, I talk about this too.
It's like, I don't even get mad at OnlyFans girls,
I get mad at the simps bro.
It's cause OnlyFans wouldn't exist if simps didn't exist.
The only reason why OnlyFans exists
is cause guys are giving it money.
Don't get mad at the OnlyFans chicks bro.
If girls were giving me money for, you know,
doing whatever the fuck,
and it was just giving me money, money, money,
I was like, fuck it, okay, I'll just keep doing it.
Why not?
Thing is, it's not how it works for guys though.
But for girls, bro, they're getting sent a bunch of money,
bunch of simps are giving money for doing whatever.
That's the reason why it exists.
And so that's why I talk so heavily on men too.
It's like, you know, I have a bunch of videos
talking about girls and how they can improve,
but especially for guys, bro, most guys are fucking simps
sending girls a bunch of money,
giving girls a bunch of their time, energy,
and attention for free, right?
A lot of the guys on OnlyFans,
they're not only giving away their money,
they had to work for that money.
So they're giving away their time.
They're giving away their attention too,
because now they're paying attention to this chick.
And they're giving away for free.
When you give these things away for free,
you lower your value.
That is low value activity.
That is beta male activities.
Like when you do these things for free,
with nothing in return, you are just,
you're a loser, bro, that's it.
You're just, you're a loser.
And the thing is, you cannot give out these things
unless you're given something in return.
I don't give attention to any girls
unless they give me something in return.
I don't even give girls sex unless,
hey, is the clothes folded, is laundry done,
is their sandwich ready, right?
Those are the things, like when you give girls
too much too soon for free, without them doing anything, they don't respect it.
The reason why girls don't respect so many guys is because so many guys are hitting them up.
So many guys are doing all these things, messaging, calling them all the time.
And the girl's like, I didn't even do anything.
Why the fuck would she respect him?
Why the fuck is she going to care about him?
She's not.
So it's very, very important for a guy to withhold his energy, right?
We talk about peace, right?
And the thing is you can only give those things away.
You can only give away your energy, give away your power.
Thing is guys just give it away for free.
Because guys are told to.
It's like, hey bro, buy the girl flowers.
Call the girl all the time.
And do all these things, sit for her,
and you'll get her, bro.
Fuck no, that's a scam.
It's a Hollywood lie, it's a Hollywood lie,
it's fuckin' lie in the media and from feminism,
that guys are being told to give away all their resources.
Give the girl all your time,
because that's what good guys do.
It's a fuckin' lie, bro.
You do that shit, you're gonna get walked over,
you're gonna get cheated on.
You're gonna fuck the dude that doesn't even care about her
in front of you or some crazy shit.
Hear about it all the time.
So, you don't want to be that guy.
And so many guys learn the hard way
and they keep getting lied to.
And even your own family is sometimes
the biggest liars too, bro.
And they don't know it though.
But even your mom.
I know a lot of guys who suck women,
they didn't grow up with a father figure.
They only grew up around their mom and their sister.
And when you ask girls for advice,
what do they tell you?
They give you advice on how to basically become a guy
that a woman can manipulate every single time when you ask a girl for advice
She's gonna give you advice that is based upon
Her feelings not based upon what works. No girls gonna tell you. Okay, you got to be an asshole
You gotta ignore her you gotta do this this no girls gonna fucking tell you that ever no
So even your mom or your sister because they want to tell you what they want to hear too
That's why asking advice from girls is why I hate female dating coaches.
Saudi Khan.
Yeah. I do not like female dating coaches at all because the advice they give is so emotional.
It's very rare when a girl can actually think from a man's perspective.
It's basically impossible.
So when a girl's giving advice, they're giving advice based upon how they feel.
If you ask any girl, what do you look for in a man?
Oh, I want a guy who's nice, who treats me right,
you know, he doesn't try hooking up with my friends,
you know, he only talks to me.
Okay, cool, I'm gonna give you this guy right now.
He's boring.
Because she has mastery over him, like we talked about earlier.
When you have mastery over a man, it becomes boring.
She moves on to the next thing.
And so, the guy that
she has master over is the beast that got tamed. Right? And so you have to be that guy
that cannot be tamed, the guy that cannot be mastered.
When guys get cheated on and they come to you for advice, what do you tell them?
Yeah, so when a guy comes to me for advice, you know, what I ask him is, what are you
trying to get out of it? Right? Are you trying to get the girl back? Are back are you you know what what's your goals and most of the time when a guy
comes to me saying you know my girl cheated on me what do I do it's more of
like so if the guy has some respect at least he's like y'all want to get revenge
on her or something right and if the guy's retarded he's like okay I want to
get her back what the guy that I tell that to the guy I tell that wants to get
her back after she cheated on him is like, bro, you're a cuck, okay?
Number one, you're a cuck.
Number two, she doesn't want you
because she already chose another guy.
She doesn't want you, bro.
There's no coming back from that, right?
Even if a girl starts seeking attention and validation.
I think cheating starts way before
she actually sees another guy.
She started cheating when she was already texting the guy.
She was already cheating when she was posting
booty pics on Instagram and getting likes from other guys.
That's where I see the cheating, right?
And so the cheating starts way before
actually fucking happens, right?
There's a lot of steps, right?
She has to somehow meet the guy, get his number,
then she has to text him, then she has to call him,
and then they have to meet up,
and then they have to make out.
There's like so many steps in between
until it actually happens.
Like bro, there's so many times
where you could have stopped it. So it's always the guy's fault. I actually happens like bro. There's so many times where you could have stopped it
So it's always the guys fault actually believe chain like guys fault right because if a girl cheats on you you allowed her to
Why the fuck are you in a relationship with this girl?
Why were you even talking to this girl?
Right because I could point out so many problems guy didn't see I'll ask guy okay still cheat on you whose fault is it?
He'll be like oh, it's hers like no bro. It was yours because you got a relationship with her
He'd like well. I didn't see it coming. I didn't see the red flag. Okay, cool. What's the relationship with her dad like? Well, she didn't have a dad
Okay, boom, right? You could have paid attention to that. Did she have social media? Yeah, she has social media
Okay, boom another one. Okay. Did she have ho friends? Yeah, they're always going out taking out to the club
Okay, boom another one
So there's so many things where it's the guy's fault for not paying attention to these girls seriously
And so that's why I tell the guy look at all these things that you fucked up on
I don't even give a fuck about the girl.
I care about what you're fucking up on.
Because here's the thing, I could cope and help him cope
and be like, oh, it's okay, bro.
She cheated on you.
You'll just find another one.
She wasn't the right one for you.
And then he goes to another girl and she does the same thing.
That guy can actually meet a most perfect girl,
a princess, an angel, a virgin, and if he acts the way he does, she'll still cheat on him.
Wow.
100%.
Because girls are trainable, right?
And girls are followers.
Men are leaders.
So without realizing, even going back to the OnlyFans and Simping, girls are being led
by men.
Why?
Because men are giving them money, attention, validation.
So men are, subconsciously, without knowing, leading the women to doing these things, because they're giving them money.
If all the men stop paying money, guess what? They wouldn't keep doing it.
No girl would be doing OnlyFans anymore.
And now there's 1.2 million girls on OnlyFans.
Exactly. So men are always leading. Subconsciously or consciously.
And no matter what, men are always leading something, right?
Girls are naturally followers
Okay, girls are gonna follow either society. They're gonna follow a strong man right now. They're just following society, right?
My girls follow me obviously your girls follow you but the girls who don't follow anyone
They just follow society and whatever society has whatever programming they have whatever brainwashing they have the girls are gonna follow them
and is what is in our fall whatever beliefs they have because
Unless a girl finds a strong man that she can actually follow and trust and submit to she's
not gonna she's only gonna listen to society okay even her family too women
don't listen to their family or the Bible whatever a religion they follow
society so whatever society says is okay they're gonna listen to or a strong man
this goes back to caveman days right so if you were in a tribe and the girls and
and the guys listen to society and
listen to the tribe you would survive. You would be okay. The tribe would take
care of you. Now as a man you can actually leave the tribe and take care
of yourself. You can survive because you're a man. You actually can you can
fight. You can hunt. You can do these things. Women cannot. So this
goes back to subconsciously. Women cannot leave the tribe and survive on
their own. They can't, right? A guy can leave the tribe and start his own tribe the girl cannot on her own
And so subconsciously she's always been following because they understand on a subconscious level
They can't just do their own thing. They can't just survive on their own. They can't protect themselves
Right, so they're always need a strong man to follow or to submit to right
And so it's always a strong man leaving first and then you know, the followers follow him. Right? Yeah, that makes sense.
What's the number one mistake men do that kills their attraction instantly?
Yeah, giving away too much interest.
Showing too much interest.
Giving away their mysteriousness.
And not letting the girl play into the story.
Right? And so when girls meet a guy and he tells the girl everything about him, what he does for work,
so when a girl asks you, what do you do for work?
It's a shit test, bro.
Everything that comes out of a girl's mouth.
Here's the thing, quote from David Dita,
everything in life is either a test or a celebration, okay?
So if she's not celebrating you, she's testing you.
And guys don't even think, well, she asked me for work.
That can't be a shit test.
It is, bro.
Because if you tell her, oh, I do X, Y, Z is bro. Cause if you tell her, oh I do XYZ, I'm an entrepreneur,
I do this, I do podcasting, I work for this business,
I work for this company, oh cool.
No girl's like, oh my god, you're so hot,
I wanna suck your dick.
What does a girl, whenever you ever told a girl this,
these things, she's like, oh my god,
you're so hot, I wanna suck your dick.
That doesn't happen.
She's like, okay cool, right?
Versus, oh I do a bunch of stuff.
I have a lot of things going on.
I make money with my boys, right? It's like, do a bunch of stuff. I have a lot of things going on. I make money with my boys, right?
It's like, so what do you do?
I wanna know.
You're gonna have to see, you're gonna have to wait and see.
I'll show you eventually, right?
That's part of the game.
That's playing it mysterious.
That's giving the girl something to think about
and to be curious about, right?
She wants to figure out over time, right?
When you give away all these things too soon,
it's whatever.
Of course you can do this with girls
you don't find attractive, whatever,
and just tell them whatever.
But those little things,
the guys most definitely don't think about.
When a girl asks, how old are you?
Or what do you do for work?
Or what do you like to do for fun?
These are all shit tests.
Oh, are you talking to any other girls?
Now guys, we think so logically.
This is why we get fucked up. Because we give any other girls? Now guys, we think so logically. This is why we get fucked up, right?
Because we give away our info too soon
because we think so logically.
And so naturally we're like,
oh, well, I'm not talking to anyone else.
Or, oh yeah, we're talking to other hoes, whatever.
You say that, it's gonna turn off.
You're doing it in a way that is playful and mysterious.
Right, so when a girl asks you,
are you talking to other girls?
Well, I always have room for one more.
So you don't know, you could be talking to zero,
you're talking to five, right?
Always say, hey, I always have room for one more, So you don't know, you could be talking to zero, you could be talking to five, right? Always say, hey, I always have room for one more, right?
The thing is, it leaves it like, okay,
what is this guy about?
How many girls is he actually talking to?
Right, and so it leaves that mysterious,
if you're too direct, you're thinking logically,
as a dude, you're gonna get cooked, right?
And so this is why a lot of like,
super smart entrepreneurial guys,
we sometimes struggle with it,
because we're always thinking about numbers,
we're always thinking about business, right?
We're always thinking about being direct
and just giving out info.
Because it makes sense in our world,
social media world, whatever, it makes sense.
But try to carry that into dating relationships,
that's where you're going to struggle,
that's where you're going to see,
actually, I could have done this better,
or I could have made this move on the chess board,
that would have garnered me more affection,
attention, and interest from the girl.
That's what I'm always looking at.
How can I get more out of this interaction,
this question, and going back to the thing is like,
every little thing that comes out of a girl's mouth
is a shit test.
Every single thing, even when you guys are in a relationship,
if she asks you a question, it's a shit test.
You cannot take her seriously, ever.
When the second you start answering these things
seriously and taking it seriously,
you start to become boring, every single time, because now you're predictable.
Yeah.
Would you ever go on that Pop the Balloon show?
Yeah, Pop the Balloon?
That'd be funny as fuck, bro.
I saw that one guy.
He starts beeping with everyone.
Oh, that guy, yeah.
I wanna get him on the podcast.
That'd be funny as fuck.
Yeah, that dude's hilarious.
Would you do that too?
I wouldn't.
My girl would, nah, I wouldn't.
I wanna see you on there though.
You would crush it.
Okay, yeah, I'll do it.
I'll get you on one of those.
Okay, fuck it, let's do it.
I think it's hilarious. It's like these girls some of their standards are wild to me
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, here's things like even a girl tells bro
I've been on dates with so many girls like uh, usually I only talk to guys who are much taller than me
I only talk to guys who are like six foot. I only talk to guys who are super super famous, whatever
It's like well, you're with me. So we're having some fun. I don't care. It's always a shit test
It's like if they're always gonna be,
everything that comes out of their mouth is a test, bro.
I don't care.
Even the most, even the top guys at the top,
they're getting tested by their girls too, bro.
It doesn't matter how, it never ends, bro.
It never ends.
Every single guy at some level is getting tested
by some chick.
Every single time.
It doesn't matter where you're at in life,
you're always gonna be tested by some chick.
You'd be the best guy, number one on planet,
and some girl is still gonna test you.
Which is what it is, bro.
Where can people find you and get coached by you, man?
Yeah, so my website, LoganDuong.com,
that's probably the safest place where I won't get banned.
Are you banned on IG right now?
Dude, I got banned on Instagram.
I lost like 200K on TikTok.
YouTube shuttled banned too.
The only place I'm not banned is Spotify.
That's why I told you about Spotify.
My Spotify podcast kills it. I feel like you're not even saying that controversial of things. Yeah, no, like it's not bad at Spotify. That's why I told you about Spotify. My Spotify podcast kills it
I feel like you're not even saying that controversial of things
Yeah, I know like it's not that crazy like to us not even that crazy
But to the to the average person what I say is crazy when I tell guys
Yo, I have multiple girlfriends. My girl has my name tattooed on her. She does everything I want and she doesn't have social media
She's have guy friends guys. Like oh my god, that's crazy
I'm like bro should be a standard for most guys
Yeah
If you could get away with it and you could do it do it
Right and the thing is that's the only way where relationships actually gonna work
Like I only want that's my standard now is like I only want girls who are head over heels in love with me
When I didn't know much about girls and I didn't really experience much about women. I didn't get the most out of them
I didn't really see it right
I didn't know that a girl can actually have these things about her actually be head over heels in love with you
You know, everyone is always gonna if these things about her or actually be head over heels in love with you.
Everyone is always gonna, if you've never smelled
or seen a rose, I can't really describe it to you.
And so for most guys, when you tell them these things,
hey, your girl shouldn't have these things.
They're like, really?
But everyone else has it.
I'm like, yeah, everyone else,
because they're a bunch of fucking losers, yeah.
So it's like, you tell a guy these things
and it's so eye-opening to them.
It's like, oh my God, this is crazy.
This is a whole new world.
Like, bro, this used to be natural.
Like this is usually normal 50, you know, to a hundred years ago.
Right.
We just lost our way.
We just went to this completely different route.
The pendulum swung this complete different way to simping and feminism.
It used to be the complete opposite, bro.
Way opposite.
Everything is flipped.
And so the things that I say now are, you know, normal to us, but they're,
they're very different and crazy to other people.
And a lot of people don't believe it.
It's like, bro, follow my Instagram, check out my stories.
See, I post testimonials all the time of myself
or other people, like, it's possible.
And I wanna show guys what's possible
because if you don't see what's possible,
you've never seen or smelled the rose,
it's gonna be hard for me to explain it,
but I wanna show guys what's possible
because most guys think, well, I see guys talking about,
you have to get money to get girls. No, dude. No, you don't you don't believe that
No, not at all. No, it's I was getting girls before I was rich. I was getting girls, you know
Whenever I wanted to right and so the thing is the only times where I didn't get girls is when I didn't believe in myself
It's when I didn't believe that was the catch when I was not actually improving my life in any way in any way
Right and when I was simping over chicks, right?
And I was only taking one girl seriously, I started cutting off all my other options.
That's when I started to lose.
That's when I started to lose my options and my abundance and my value, right?
And so, or when I put, most importantly, a girl before my mission and purpose.
When you put a girl before your mission and purpose, oh my God, bro, you're cooked.
Because now, everyone, you lose respect from everyone.
Alright, especially when a guy, you've seen guys cut off their friends for a chick.
Oh, I hate that.
Dude, they lose respect from everyone, especially the girl.
The girl who wanted them to do it, they lose respect from everyone.
They lose respect from the guy friends, their family, future business partners, and the girl.
Everyone, yeah.
Everyone, bro. Those guys always lose everyone.
And because they are putting a woman before everything else and we do that
You're signifying to the world that she is up here above everything else above what you want
And what you value what you believe in and girls they hate that shit
Yeah, then they break up six months later and tries to be friends with you again. Yeah, I lost respect for you. Yeah
There's no come back bro. No come back. Yeah, so yeah, thanks for having me on bro. Yeah, we'll link this up below
Thanks for coming man. That was fun. Check them out guys. See you next time