Digital Social Hour - How Stem Cells Fixed My Knee – A Game-Changer in Health | David Kasteler DSH #1367

Starting point is 00:00:00 And what's interesting, Sean, is I still have these bone fragments in my knee. That was 10 years ago. And to have something that impactful is truly amazing. And so when I look at biologics as a piece of your health and your health care, your, what you're trying to do with your body, I think biologics should absolutely be something people look at. All right, guys, finally got David on the pod here. We're going to talk stem cells and health, man.

Starting point is 00:00:31 Thanks for coming on. Thank you. Yeah. You got quite a story yourself. It's been a journey. It has been. When did it all start for you? Your health journey? With health, you know, I grew up in a family medicine and my whole family was very Western medicine. And my brothers and MD, my parents, You know, I grew up in a family medicine and my whole family was very Western medicine and my my brother's an MD my parent everyone is is in medicine and my father worked for

Starting point is 00:00:53 several of the pharmaceutical companies Warner Lambert Parker Davis many of the older companies that are now been purchased by others and I Used to joke that I've moved more drugs than most people because the UPS truck, now remember this is the 80s Sean, so UPS truck would come with a whole truck full of drugs all different types of drugs and I'd help unload those and my dad would distribute and rep those and so I grew up with this real western understanding mindset of medicine, how to do things the Western way. And it was interesting when I was 19, I went and moved to Thailand. And I started to understand a difference in how you can approach health and wellness and how you can see the body as a full system,

Starting point is 00:01:49 not just ear, nose and throat or eyes or something. It's a full system working together. And so I started to learn about that when I was in Asia. And it was about 20 years ago in Peru. I was with, we were doing humanitarian work. At the time I had a big book company and we were setting up schools in Peru for a library, excuse me. And there were two gentlemen and both of these gentlemen were 70 years old, Sean. And one of them didn't even want to get out of the bus to go see the ruins, to go see the sites.

Starting point is 00:02:28 It could barely move, moving slowly. And the other guy, he was, I mean, walking, happy, leading the pack. And they were both 70. And it was interesting because at this point, I mean, I was young at the time, like 22, 23 or something. And I remember seeing both of these individuals and thinking, okay, what's the difference here?

Starting point is 00:02:50 Why is this one almost dying? Why is this one like thriving and leading the pack? And I mean, I'm young and we're in Cusco, which is very high elevation in Peru, and he's seriously leading everyone at 70 years old. So I remember thinking, okay, there's something that you do on a daily basis or a weekly, monthly routine, something that causes this dichotomy. Like why is this person dying?

Starting point is 00:03:19 Why is this person thriving? So that was, that was a big kind of turning point in my mind of like what you do on a daily basis makes a big difference. And so I've been an entrepreneur basically my whole life, Sean. And, and I started to really dive into health and wellness and trying to understand, okay, what's, what, what does it mean to, to be healthy? And how, how does that really work with the whole system of the body? And so I've had some very interesting experiences worldwide, going down that path.

Starting point is 00:03:58 And we've, I drove into supplements and I've sold a lot of supplements all over the world. I've had offices, several continents and countries. And I've been able to meet with doctors, practitioners and see what are they doing, what works, what doesn't work and how are they utilizing both natural medicines and pharmaceutical medicines and surgeries and things like that. And what is it? What's the ultimate outcome that they're getting? Right. So I think people, they really overcomplicate health.

Starting point is 00:04:35 And they try and make it very difficult. And there's so many supplements being sold, so many products being pushed, diets, do this diet, do that diet, fast, cold plunge, sauna, red light. I mean, all these different things. And it's very difficult as a consumer, someone that's not into the data and into the science to know which one is right for me, right? And-

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Starting point is 00:06:13 And what it comes down to though, it's very simple. I mean, you have to focus on the three things. You need to focus on sleep, nutrition, and exercise. And if you focus on sleep, nutrition, and exercise. And if you focus on sleep, nutrition, exercise, and you're really honed in on those things, and you understand what you need to do to improve those things, then you say, okay, what supplements, what peptides,

Starting point is 00:06:37 what routines can I improve and change? And as you do that, then you can really hone in your health and wellness. Yeah, so focus on those three before getting into stem cells and change. And as you do that, then you can really hone in your health and wellness. Yes. Focus on those three before getting into stem cells and everything. Right. So, when you look at like stem cells, peptides, or any type of biologic, it's an add addition to what you're already doing. So, stem cells, exosomes, peptides, any type of additional therapy, that should be in addition to what you're already doing.

Starting point is 00:07:08 So it's a supplement to good health, which includes nutrition, sleep, and exercise. And I see all the time people want to, I mean, you see in peptides a lot right now, Sean, you have people that want to just take a peptide and not have to exercise. Yeah. TRT. Yeah. TRT is an example. BBC 157, MK 677. I mean, there's a lot of different ones and they do help as a supplement, but you still need the fundamental exercise. You need to be exercising, right? If you're not exercising, then you're missing out on one of the three exercise. You need to be exercising, right? If you're not exercising, then you're, you're missing out on one of the three

Starting point is 00:07:47 pillars, right? So you don't like the Dave Asprey approach? Um, well, well, I don't know what Dave's, I don't know what he does. He doesn't exercise at all. Well, I would, I would say it'd be interesting to look at all of his mile markers and, or his, his blood markers and see where it is. And you have to understand everyone's, because you live, everyone's a little bit different. So like if you and I don't exercise, it might affect us differently than someone else.

Starting point is 00:08:15 And so you have to make sure that you're looking at yourself individually and saying, okay, that might work for this person, but it doesn't work for me. Yeah. That's such a good point. Cause like people try to copy Brian Johnson, but the dude's just his own, like it's his own body, like he can handle that many supplements. Right. Right.

Starting point is 00:08:33 People can't. Yeah. And so his liver might be better at processing so many things. Yeah. Yeah. Cause he's on a lot of supplements. And it's, it's difficult too. Cause you have people like that, that are talking about certain things. I know he's talked a lot about

Starting point is 00:08:47 his nighttime erections and things like that, but he's also on Cialis. Yeah, so he's talked about that. But when you have to look at the data and say, okay, well what's really happening? And I appreciate that he's actually out there pushing this idea of longevity. And it's important that we have that in our mind of how do we improve where we are. And so I appreciate that. I mean, Dave Asprey, I think he's done a great job of helping people understand about like why you need to focus on health and certain things that can influence your body.

Starting point is 00:09:27 But it's also hard when you have so many of these people that are selling something and knowing, okay, is that really the best thing or are they doing it to sell something? And you got to witness that firsthand, right? Yeah. I guess mission versus money tension. Yeah, well, I mean, in business, I mean, through my career, Sean, I've unfortunately

Starting point is 00:09:50 learned that most people will do what they can for money, not what's right. And that's a sad thing because people have taken advantage of me or others for money and I think that's that's unfortunate actually is that people will do what they can for money not Maybe what's what's the best thing for? Mission or for the world really I mean, that's why big farmer is what it is. Yeah, it's for money Yeah, you know they put that before health unfortunately Yeah, and a lot of people say that they didn't used to be that way. Really?

Starting point is 00:10:28 Yeah. Not in my lifetime, not in yours. I don't think either. Probably not. Yeah. Yeah. I can't picture that honestly. Well, I think, I don't think it's like with doctors. I feel like most doctors want to become a doctor because they do really want to help people. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:10:45 But then they're put into a system that trains them a certain way. And when you're in that system, it's hard to move out of that without causing problems. 100%. Now, I feel like, at least here in the US, there are starting to be some very good things happening. Legislation is changing. Lots of very cool things are happening that way. But it's difficult and it takes a very strong person

Starting point is 00:11:12 to say I'm gonna do something because it's right, not because it makes money. You had a massive injury at age 34, right? That's how you got into stem cells. Yeah, so I mean, my stem cell journey is interesting. So I, I have what's called Osgood Schlatter's, which is basically under your knee, you, in your ligaments, you have some bone that comes out and it, it basically becomes part of the ligament. So you have little bone islands in your, in your knee, underneath your kneecap. And so if you look

Starting point is 00:11:44 at my knee now, I still have those. And if you did an MRI, you'd see that I have bone fragments underneath in the ligaments and mine, mine started swelling up, swell up and it would hurt anytime I walked upstairs. I couldn't really run anytime we played basketball, things like that. It would be sore afterwards. And so I went to two different orthopedics specialists and I asked them, I said, what do I do?

Starting point is 00:12:09 And how can I deal with this? And both of them independently, Sean, they both said, hey, we'll do the surgery, we cut open your knee, rip out the bones, then we sew it back up and you'll be fine. And I said, okay, what does that mean you'll be fine? And they said, well, you're on crutches for eight to nine months and then you should be

Starting point is 00:12:28 okay. Geez. Now this surgery, so I went and researched this. I like to look at the data and I look at the research and there's only 50% success rate. 50%. So, they're saying, look, do the surgery. It's 40 to 50 thousand dollars I'm on crutches for eight to nine months and then there's only 5% chance of

Starting point is 00:12:50 success Wow so I didn't feel comfortable with that and I went and talked to another doctor friend of mine and he said David you should do stem cells I said well what does that mean what what stem cells? And he explained to me, he said, well, they're, they're the best stem cells are from umbilical cord and placenta tissue. They're a neutral cell and they go into the body and go to where your body needs it. And he says, we can inject it right in your knee and there's a good chance that it will help with the inflammation. And he was very clear too.

Starting point is 00:13:22 He said, I'm not sure if it's going to work. will help with the inflammation. And he was very clear too. He said, I'm not sure if it's gonna work. And that gave me some assurance actually, because he was very clear. He said, look, I'm not positive this is gonna work, but if it doesn't help your knee, it'll go somewhere else in your body where it needs it.

Starting point is 00:13:36 I said, okay, what does that take? And it was like 15 minute procedure, two simple injections, and then you know a few weeks later. So I went and got the procedure done. It was, I think it cost like $5,000 and he did the injection, no problem. And then I left and had zero improvement for three weeks. Zero, I mean, it actually probably hurt even more.

Starting point is 00:14:02 And then week four, Sean, I woke up and all the pain was gone. Wow. It was like instant. And I was blown away. I said, okay, well, that's amazing. I've done a lot of supplements. I can formulate, I can look at any supplement in the back

Starting point is 00:14:19 and tell you if you should eat it or take it or whatever. And sourcing is really important to me. So for me, it was, I'd never seen anything, Sean, that can really effectuate change as quickly as I received. Yeah, that's super fast. Yeah, and what's interesting, Sean, is I still have these bone fragments in my knee.

Starting point is 00:14:43 That was 10 years ago, okay? 10 years ago. And to have something that impactful is truly amazing. And so when I look at biologics as a piece of your health and your healthcare, what you're trying to do with your body, I think biologics should absolutely be something people look at. They should not be afraid to ask questions.

Starting point is 00:15:10 Unfortunately, most doctors, nurses, PAs, DOs, they don't do a lot of study or training on stem cells, exosomes, any biologics. And so there's this real lack of understanding about what they do, what they can do. And with, with, um, George W. Bush, he put legislation in place here in the U S that basically halted, um, a lot of the stem cell research happening in the U S.

Starting point is 00:15:43 So unfortunately much of the good stem cell research that's happening, it's very difficult to do here in the US. And the FDA has tried to shut down a lot of that. And in the other countries, so Europe, Eastern Europe, Asia, Southeast Asia, China has actually done a lot of really good research on stem cells. In fact, there was just someone recently that was cured completely from type one diabetes. From stem cells?

Starting point is 00:16:14 From stem cells. Geez. A direct injection right into the pancreas. So that's pretty cool. You can't, you have type one diabetes, you're not supposed to heal from this. I've never heard of that for type one. Yeah. I mean, it's amazing.

Starting point is 00:16:29 So I think there's this mindset that needs to change. There does need to be legislation because it's a biologic. You're injecting something in your body. You need to have that legislation. And I, I'd like to see, uh, some of the rules, uh, in the U S change and have that, that kind of openness about stem cells and what, what can and can't be done and where, where they need to come from and all of that, but it's, it's really, in my opinion, a gift from God that we are, we all start as stem cells shone on the womb and when a baby is born, you're left with the umbilical cord and

Starting point is 00:17:12 placenta. And if you can extract the stem cells and the exosomes and you can actually use those to help continue life or improve life. How amazing is that? Yeah, it's beautiful. I wonder what the hospital does with the umbilical cord. They throw them away. What? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:17:32 That's such a waste. Yeah, they're all thrown away. That's worth a lot of value. Well, you can help people with it. And I think if more women knew that they could donate their umbilical cord and placenta tissue, it would be, it would be very beneficial for, for, I think most of them would. That should be an option, man. I agree. The placenta too, right?

Starting point is 00:17:56 Yep. Yeah. So they just toss that out? Yeah. It's thrown away. That's crazy, right? I mean, that could be used to save lives right there. That's crazy, right? I mean, that could be used to save lives right there. Yeah, but that's where I think if we had more active, proactive legislation and governance and information

Starting point is 00:18:14 for women too, most of these women, you have a healthy young woman who is giving birth and that placenta and umbilical cord could be used to help someone that has, let's say diabetes or ALS or something that is potentially very damaging for them. I mean, most people would say, yeah, I want to do it. Cause it's not taking anything from them. And it's definitely something I think people would like to do. Yeah. I hope the U S starts accepting it more more because right now you got to fly out the country to get some powerful stem cells, right?

Starting point is 00:18:48 Well, that's what most people think and you actually don't there really yeah there's there's hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of clinics here in the US that do it as well and Offer extremely good quality stem cells and exosomes. Oh, wow. Yeah, and and I think That the the thought is that it's only in Europe or Latin America or Asia. Mexico I've heard too. Yeah Mexico. I've been to some very nice clinics. But you know what's interesting is I asked three different clinics in Mexico, Panama, and Costa Rica and I said okay where are your where's your stem cells from? And they couldn't answer me. They couldn't tell me.

Starting point is 00:19:27 And so as a sourcing, you need to know where your product's from. I mean, when you look at what you're putting in your body, you need to know, do you have a healthy young woman? Is this a donated umbilical cord placenta? Where is that coming from? Because quality matters. And when you're looking at quality of birth too,

Starting point is 00:19:51 you have, you wanna make sure your umbilical and placental tissue is from a healthy birth, a woman that doesn't have any diseases, that the child was born correctly. I mean, everything, you wanna make sure that all those key things are met. No smoking, no alcohol, no tattoos, no vaping, no genetic diseases or biomarkers.

Starting point is 00:20:17 Wow, so even tattoos affect the stem cells? Well, potentially, yeah. And so the best companies always will even check for tattoos. Wow. Yeah. And no COVID vaccine. Really? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:20:31 That one doesn't surprise me. Right. Well. I mean, I don't want to get the video deleted, but we both know what's going on there. Yeah. So for me, it's been a lifelong journey. And I've been an entrepreneur for a long time and I've traveled all over the world. I've been very fortunate to meet with people all over

Starting point is 00:20:51 and see the beauty of these other cultures and learn some of their languages. And what I've learned is that people all over the world, they really want the same things. We all wanna be healthy and happy. We all wanna be healthy and happy. We all wanna be loved. And when I look at health, I think of health as a way for us to all communicate

Starting point is 00:21:13 and talk the same language. Everyone wants to be healthy. Everyone wants to be happy. And everyone wants to be loved. And so you say, okay, well, if stem cells can help in that health journey, great. If exosomes can help in that health journey, great. But we need to step back and say, okay, well, if stem cells can help in that health journey, great. If exosomes can help in that health journey, great. But we need to step back and say, where, where, where are the problems?

Starting point is 00:21:32 And be willing to ask some of those questions. Too many people, I believe Sean are, are afraid to ask questions. I agree. They're not, they don't want to know. They don't want to know the answer because it's, it's nice to be in the state of ignorance and realizing that the food that you're giving your child may not be healthy. Some people don't want to know that because that food that you're giving them is so convenient. Convenient, affordable, easy.

Starting point is 00:22:05 Well, you look at, right now in the U.S., we have a big issue with corn, ethanol, high-fructose corn syrup being used all over. You say, okay, why is that happening? And when you research into it, you find out that the US government is basically paying subsidies to farmers and they are paying for corn to be produced so they can use it for ethanol production. That's now turned into a whole other industry that has said, okay, well, how can we get corn?

Starting point is 00:22:44 We're getting corn basically for free. So let's use corn and everything. And so the trickle down effect has, I mean, that's why we have high fructose corn syrup. I mean, even the soda has corn syrup, not sugar anymore because corn syrup's cheaper. The problem with most of the corn and this goes to seed oils as well,

Starting point is 00:23:06 is that it's not necessarily the corn is bad or the sunflower is bad, but they're all GMO. And so when you have GMO crops, you have sprain of pesticides and herbicides. And so it's not even, I don't even know that it's that seed oils are so bad, Sean, it's not even I don't even know that that it's that seed oils are so bad Sean. It's that the Pesticides and the herbicides that are being put on the seed oils and then extracted are Issue it's like eating non-organic fruit. The fruit isn't the problem, right? It's the pesticide herbicide, right? Exactly

Starting point is 00:23:41 Yeah, yeah, that's interesting. They kind of banned the high fructose corn syrup. I mean, I think some states are trying to change the legislation and I think the FDA is doing some good things with that, but it's difficult when you have it so ingrained and you have manufacturing processes, you have big companies that are using that as a main ingredient. And so, I mean, I grew up in the 80s and it's interesting.

Starting point is 00:24:08 If I go look at the back of foods that I ate growing up, they're different than they were when I was growing up. I can see that. They weight less. Way more ingredients now and way more processed, more sugar, not even using sugar, using high fructose corn syrup. Yeah. So a lot of pesticides, herbicides,

Starting point is 00:24:28 and you have to look and say, okay, well, we're supposedly smarter now, but how come cancer rates have gone up? How come heart disease has gone up? How come all these things are still happening and happening at higher increased rates? Why is that happening? And so we have to step back and ask those questions. And I don't think a lot of people want to ask

Starting point is 00:24:51 those questions because they've built a identity or built a career off of some of these things happening the way they are. Yeah. Well, the number of diseases going up is alarming. Yeah. It's really scary. But yeah, I remember seeing a graphic about Wonder Bread. There was five ingredients. Yeah, back in the day. Back in the day. Now there's like 50. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:25:12 Bread. Well, ice cream. I mean, okay, so I went to go get some ice cream and I looked at every brand. I could not find one brand without guar gum or sorbate, potassium sorbate or carrageenan. So potassium sorbate is a stops bacteria growth preservative and guar gum and carrageenan are used to thicken. Well, they now have data showing that those can potentially cause problems for our gut. Wow. So, I can't even get ice cream.

Starting point is 00:25:49 Now, ice cream should be three or four ingredients. It should be, I mean, cream, sugar, maybe vanilla and eggs, and that's basically it. So, there shouldn't be anything else, but they've now added all these other things to make it thicker, make it different things. And so that's, that's the trouble for consumers in the U S and that's why you hear of, I think people go into Europe eating pizza and whatever and being fine. Yeah. And then coming to the USA and then having problems. Well everything's enriched and fortified here for the grains. Yeah. And then coming to the USA and then having problems. Well, everything's enriched and fortified here for the grains.

Starting point is 00:26:27 Yeah. Well, and most of the grains again are GMO, which means most of them have pesticides and herbicides. Yeah. So whenever you eat those, you're actually ingesting pesticides and herbs. It's crazy when you're eating bread. You don't even think about connecting those dots, but. No. And it looks good. It smells good. You walk past a pizza place, it'll smell great, but you may not feel great afterwards.

Starting point is 00:26:52 So you gotta, these days, almost ask what they're using in their restaurant, you know? Well, and I hope there's a proliferation now of people eating out. More people eat out than cook at home. And I'm hoping that that's that Changes and people start cooking at home again because and then also like just for families They've shown that eating with with others is very beneficial for your own your own mental health and everything as well. So That I mean there's some benefit there. You and I go, we go make a meal. We're together for 30 minutes prepping that meal and then we sit down and eat it. That's, that's a lot

Starting point is 00:27:30 more bonding than just going to a restaurant. Yeah. You know, absolutely. It will probably taste better too. Probably most restaurants are hit or miss these days. Yeah. You never know. Yeah. You got a book you're working on baselift. Oh yeah, so I actually have two books that I'm working on. One's called Baselift, which is about daily things and daily actions you can do to lift your base. So it's things that you can do on a daily basis. And then my other book is called Beyond Repair. I helped to launch it this year,

Starting point is 00:28:03 that Beyond Repair is about stem cell solution to healing and longevity. And wanna try and get that idea out, so people start seeing stem cells as something they should be utilizing actively, not as a last resort. Yeah. Does that make sense? Absolutely. That's cool, man.

Starting point is 00:28:22 We'll link those below if they're out when this drops. Yeah, yeah, I appreciate it. it was with I mean when you look at overall Like Peru and some of these experiences that I had I've had some really cool experiences with shaman with plant medicines and I Think there's some issues that people have right now There's this mindset Sean of let's let's go get weed, let's get high. Yeah, let's go do mushrooms. Let's go just like almost like cursory, go do it to have fun.

Starting point is 00:28:58 And that's not what their real intention is. Plant medicine is here to help us heal. And when we do it to help us heal, we actually can experience some amazing things. But when they're taken over and over, you actually can have negative side effects as well. So, MJ or CBD and THC, any cannabis plant, cannabis is actually is a great cleanser of soil. And so you can use it intermittently with your crops. So you could do like corn and then you do cannabis, hemp or something, and then you could do your corn again and the hemp in between will clean the soil. Really?

Starting point is 00:29:43 Yeah. Wow. But the problem with that, so think of it, so people are, I mean I was just in Bangkok and every single street, I mean every corner, there's a THC dispensary, right? And the problem with taking cannabis regularly is that when you ingest it, you're getting micro toxins every time, heavy metals, because

Starting point is 00:30:07 it is extracting from the soil and cleaning that soil. And so the problem that we have right now in the society is that people are taking these plant medicines as a recreational substance, and they're actually a medicine. They should be used to help with something, and then you stop. And that's the problem that people are, they're getting toxicity from some of these plant medicines. I didn't know that about cannabis, wow.

Starting point is 00:30:39 Yeah, it's a big one. Mushrooms, same thing. I can see it though, because whenever I- Iowaska, same thing. Yeah, I can see that, because whenever I smoke, I start either sneez same thing. Yeah, I could see that. Cause whenever I smoke, I start either sneezing or coughing. And I feel like that,

Starting point is 00:30:48 I can't beat from the actual cannabis. Has to be something else. No, it's from, it's from the heavy metal. The, the, and so, and it's hard because some of these are pretty addictive and you feel good briefly, but they can have long-term effects. And some of the clinics that we've worked with will show,

Starting point is 00:31:04 they can do scans and show exactly, hey, this person is taking cannabis regularly. They have heavy metal. They can sell from just- Oh yeah, just from the heavy metals alone. That's nuts. Yeah, so people need to realize that these are sacred medicines,

Starting point is 00:31:19 these are plant medicines, and they should be used as a medicine. And not every day. They're not everyday substances. A lot of supplements, the same thing. Really? Yeah. What about like vitamin D and like,

Starting point is 00:31:32 Yeah. So, so some of them you got it. Okay. So I think if you look at the body as trying to find harmony within the system. Okay. And energetically it's like think of the yin-yang, okay? So you have the male and the female, and it's moving together. Now all of our systems are actually that way.

Starting point is 00:31:52 So if you look at the heart, a heart is a full system, and it's actually a yin-yang system. It's a male-female system, in-out, in-out. And we need to have harmony in our systems. So whenever you take a supplement, you are adding to one side. Now maybe you're deficient in that and that's okay,

Starting point is 00:32:12 but you need to make sure that you're staying in balance. And so I think it's important that you are making sure you're seeing those systems as in harmony and making sure that you're not overly taking one thing that might be affecting something else. Does that make sense? So some of them are, some are a little bit difficult to look at and say, okay, well, vitamin D, well, if I do vitamin D, I get this.

Starting point is 00:32:37 Is there anything that's causing to be out of balance? And we have to look at those each individual, each individual person. But I mean, when we look at energetic healing, and that's a whole nother topic, Sean, I don't know if we have time to talk about that, but see, science wants you to think that everything's like a negative and positive, right? We go to electrons, protons, things like that.

Starting point is 00:33:00 But the reality is it's actually not negative positive, it's actually male-female. So everything in your body, positive. It's actually male-female. So everything in your body, everything in my body is male-female. And it's the yin and yang, the harmony in the systems. And I think people are starting to understand this, especially those that do anything with sound or vibration frequencies. They're starting to understand. But every frequency is either a male or a female frequency or a neutral frequency.

Starting point is 00:33:29 Okay, so there's, and I can get into this. Do you wanna go deep into this? Yeah. Okay, cause we can go a little deeper, but basically each system is what's called Wuji. And then the center or the neutral is called Cora. And then you have the male and the female side. So this works.

Starting point is 00:33:48 So think of it like a, in a car. Okay. So the car itself would be the Woogee. It's the mechanism. It's moving. Okay. The steering wheel is the neutral. It can go right or left.

Starting point is 00:34:01 Okay. So it can go male or female, right or left. That's kind of how our bodies are as well. And so in, in nature, this manifests itself all the time as well. So the, the lights, the frequency, the sounds, they all have different, different interactions within the system that they're playing in. And the far extremes what we learn, so like a hurricane, which is a female frequency or a volcano, which is a male frequency. Whenever you have extremes, extremes in anything cause death and destruction. So you need to look at your body as harmonic system.

Starting point is 00:34:43 How can we get it in harmony? This is why people that are too masculine or too feminine have issues. You need to integrate everything so you can have this harmonious system. And where I think people, what they don't realize is it's not, it's not like this teeter-totter equal weights. Okay. You can have different weights on things. You and I are more masculine than feminine. That's okay.

Starting point is 00:35:15 But our fulcrum, the middle point is different. So it's actually weighted perfectly. Does that make sense? Yeah. And so you have to find out and realize what's, what's the, the mitt, the fulcrum points, the neutral points that you can add to your system. So things like stem cells, stem cells are a neutral. They enhance either the male or the female within that system that they need.

Starting point is 00:35:39 So, so it's, and we can go into, I mean, even like this, this is, this is working off of frequencies, trying to prevent certain frequencies from entering our bodies. And that, that's a type of system that, or type of device that's trying to prevent certain frequencies from coming into us, because both, both male and, it's not that male or female are bad or good. There's not a good or bad. They're, they're just there. You need both.

Starting point is 00:36:06 You need both and you need to have a harmony. So when I say we have to focus on sleep, nutrition and exercise, those are the first three things we focus on and we say, how do we have harmony in our sleep? How do we have harmony in our nutrition? How do we have harmony in our exercise? How do we have harmony in our exercise? And then we work around that and figure out. So for women, it's extremely important that they're tracking their cycles. They know when they should be doing certain exercises, when

Starting point is 00:36:36 they should be eating, when they should be taking a relaxed time. And if they do that, then they can have more harmony in their life and they can work with their home hormones in conjunction with their hormones. Men's cycle is different. Men have a, like a 24 hour cycle, very different than, than women. And so men, men, the same thing. Men need to figure out, okay, when am I, when am I on, when am I off? When should I not have means? When should I?

Starting point is 00:37:00 Is it different for every guy? Like, is there a best time of day to work out? Uh, yeah, everyone's got a little bit different. I mean, there's generalities and they have some data, but everyone is a little bit different. You have to find out, hey, do I work better in afternoon or evening or morning or when's the best for me? And so everyone is a little bit different.

Starting point is 00:37:20 That's where I think in society, it can be difficult because we're stuck in this You know nine to five This is when you work. This is when you do things and for some people they like to work at night Some people like to work at 2 a.m. Yeah, and so you you have to figure out What's right for you? and then you adapt it so you can work with the world and everything but But as we, if we look at our bodies in terms of a system that we're trying to optimize and harmonize, then I think we'll be a lot better.

Starting point is 00:37:53 And I love that approach. David, anything else you want to close off with, man? That was really interesting stuff. No, I think, I think it's pretty good. Let's just, let's change the world. Yeah, let's do it, man. We'll link your, your website below and your books when they're out.

Starting point is 00:38:05 Great. Thank you. Perfect. Thanks for coming on, man. Thank you. Yup. Check them out guys. See you next time. Thank you. Thank you.

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