Digital Social Hour - Influencer Boxing Pays MORE Than UFC? Here's Why | Overtflow PJ DSH #562

Episode Date: August 4, 2024

🔥 Is Influencer Boxing Making More Money Than UFC? Discover why unexpected stars are cashing in big! 💰🥊   In this episode of the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly, we dive deep into the world of influencer boxing and how it's outpacing traditional UFC in earnings. Join us as we sit down with Overtflow PJ, a black belt in jiu-jitsu turned popular influencer boxer. From his roots in Call of Duty to his rise in the boxing ring, PJ reveals the secrets behind his success and the jaw-dropping paychecks that come with it. 😲   You'll hear how PJ's journey took him from gaming to fighting, his epic battles with Fae Sensei and Faze Temper, and the insider scoop on upcoming Misfits Boxing events. Plus, we break down why influencer boxing is raking in more cash than the UFC and what it means for the future of combat sports. 🚀   Don't miss out on this thrilling conversation packed with valuable insights and eye-opening stories. Tune in now and join the conversation! Watch now and subscribe for more insider secrets. 📺 Hit that subscribe button and stay tuned for more eye-opening stories on the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! 🚀   Keywords: Digital Social Hour, Sean Kelly, Podcast, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Influencer Boxing, UFC, Overtflow PJ, Misfits Boxing, Call of Duty, Jiu-Jitsu, Combat Sports, Entertainment, Bare Knuckle Boxing, MMA.   #HappyPunch #OvertflowPJ #SeanKelly #CombatSports #BoxingCareers   CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 00:42 - How good were you at CoD 01:03 - Your first fight 04:58 - Babbel 07:32 - Did you know esports would blow up 07:59 - How Good Was MrBeast at Call of Duty 10:25 - Would MrBeast Ever Do a Power Slap 12:11 - Misfits Boxing and Happy Punch 15:54 - Getting fired from GameStop 18:08 - Best Call of Duty game of all time 21:46 - How your parents met 25:07 - Thoughts on chess boxing 26:57 - OUTRO   APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: [e-mail]   GUEST: Overtflow PJ https://www.instagram.com/overtflow https://www.tiktok.com/@overtflow   SPONSORS: Deposyt Payment Processing: https://www.deposyt.com/seankelly   LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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top 100 or something okay so i actually got into call of duty uh just because my friends were all playing it and i got pretty good i would say that i was like a big pub stomper guy. So I got popular on YouTube for pub stomping with sniper rifles. I would have games like 96 kills, zero deaths, post that. So I was good at pub stomping. Wherever you guys are watching this show, I would truly appreciate it if you follow or subscribe. It helps a lot with the algorithm. It helps us get bigger and better guests. And it helps us grow the team. Truly means a lot. Thank you guys for supporting. a lot with the algorithm. It helps us get bigger and better guests, and it helps us grow the team.

It truly means a lot. Thank you guys for supporting, and here's the episode. Alright, Overflow PJ in the building. What drink you got there, my brother? I got a little G Fuel. One of my favorite people. One of my favorite companies for the last 10 years. Nice. I like the branding on that can. It's pretty dope. Yeah, it's the Friday the 13th one.

It's nice. A little Jason on there. You got your own drink with them, too? We're announcing it for my next fight. Fire. Yeah, it's going to the 13th one. It's nice. A little Jason on there. You got your own drink with them, too? So we're announcing it for my next fight. Fire. Yeah, it's going to be awesome. I'm excited to have a flavor. I've been working with them since 2015. Nice.

So to finally have a flavor is going to be amazing. Next fight. So I know you fought Sensei. That was a while ago, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Back in 2018, the first ever. Logan versus KSI. Jake Paul versus Deji.

Nobody could fight Faze Sensei. He was training KSI at the time. And he had been boxing and doing all that probably since he could walk. And I'm just a jiu-jitsu guy, so I'm black belt in jiu-jitsu. I have very minimal stand-up experience, but nobody would take the fight.

He had multiple people pull out, so it's like, throw me in there. Damn, so how many weeks notice did you have? So we had been talking about it for a few months, but there was nothing set until about three weeks. I think three weeks out I had the contract. That's a short training camp. Yeah, right.

Not as short as the phase temper fight. I had that one on four days notice. So, hey, whether it's today, tomorrow, or whatever, I'm game for it. So you're just a fan of the sport. You just want to get in there no matter what. Yeah, you know what? I just think that I've always competed in jiu-jitsu. And so I'm a big uh big fan of competition so i'm just i'm just kind of down for it yeah

but that's a whole different game right boxing versus jujitsu oh yeah definitely it's not similar at all so uh i've had very minimal boxing i think that you could compare me to somebody who's like been training for maybe a year but to fight these guys who have been training for multiple years or their whole life, there's no comparison. Who was your toughest opponent, you say? Sensei, for sure. Sensei, for sure. I lost quickly to Temper, but that

was four days notice, and that was like I hadn't boxed in five years. They called me. They asked if I would do it. Temper's one of my good friends. I used to basically live on his couch. That's kind of awkward. Yeah, and that's my guy too, but you know he needed a win, so we got him there. We got him a win. I don't basically live on his couch. That's kind of awkward. Yeah, and that's my guy too. But you know, he needed a win, so we got him there. We got him a win. I don't know if I could box my

boy like that, because when you're boxing, you're going for the knockout, you know? Yeah, no, for sure. You know what? I think I've been doing it for so long. I've been training jiu-jitsu for 20 years, so the amount of friends that I've accidentally choked unconscious or accidentally hurt or whatever is very high, and they've done the same to me. And there's never any heart feelings.

That's just the way the game is. So I have really no qualms with that. Damn, so you've been choked out? Oh, yeah. Jeez. Yeah, a lot. I didn't know jujitsu was like that. Oh, yeah. So jujitsu, for anybody who is not aware too, if you watch the UFC, everything that happens on the ground, like they're

standing, there's the middle part where you're wrestling, and then once you're on the ground, pretty much everything that happens on the ground is based off of jiu-jitsu or it is jiu-jitsu. So all the chokes and joint locks and stuff, all jiu-jitsu. You see a lot of the top fighters these days have a good jiu-jitsu bag in there. Yeah, UFC was actually started because of jiu-jitsu. So the Gracies came over, started the UFC to show that jiu-jitsu was the dominant 1v1 martial art.

Damn. And they won, obviously, the first handful of UFCs, and then they took off. But the Gracies are still a legendary name. So I'm a black belt underneath the Gracies. So you'd low-key rather prefer fighting UFC than boxing, then? A hundred percent. I would love to do that.

And there's been some talks, I've heard some things, of the possibility of having influencers on the prelims for the UFC and all that. So who knows? Who knows? You might see me on there one day. You might see you the UFC and all that. So who knows? Who knows? You might see me on there one day. You might see you on UFC 300. Yo, main event, main event. I heard that card's going to be nuts.

I just watched Bob Manry on the Nelk Boys. Right. I have no idea who's going to be there. Obviously, there's been so much rumors. McGregor, maybe Jon Jones, Brock Lesnar. If Brock Lesnar came back, he'd be on 100, 200, and 300, right? So that would be crazy. That would be nuts. That Brock Lesnar came back, he'd be on 100, 200 and 300, right? So that would be crazy. That'd be nuts. That's

an OG right there. Yeah, big OG. And honestly, one of the most exciting... I mean, this man only shows up for the big cards. The 100, the 200, the 300. That would be wild. Yeah, I'd be so excited for that. Is it true you two boxers make more than some UFC fighters? A million percent. So I can't

say... I can't speak on everybody, but as far as I'm concerned, I've only had a few fights and they're for six figures. Damn. So, yeah. And those were like your first few fights too. You weren't even like a big name in the space yet. Right, I've only had three fights.

So when I started in the space, I was really well known in the Call of Duty scene, so I had a few million followers for that. Okay. And then, you know, the first fight I had was had was it was super minimal pay but with sponsors and all that if you're in need of quality new tires and have been searching the internet for a good deal look no further than your local big o tires for a limited time when you buy three tires you'll get the fourth free on select set of tires and because we know that tires can be an unexpected expense take advantage of no credit needed financing made easy they work with multiple

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eyeballs yeah because you see the professional fighters some of them are you know kind of unhappy honestly about the youtube boxing scene right it makes sense you guys have a huge following from esports or whatever and you're bringing it to boxing. Correct. And even the guys like Sean O'Malley, even Dana White, obviously loving the influencers, bringing them all in. Obviously, everything, what is it? The mainstream is about 10 years behind what's actually happening, they always say. So I was making video game content in 2009, 2010, and it took all this time for it to actually be cool.

When did it actually get cool? Maybe three years ago? It's like, oh yeah, I'm a YouTuber. That's cool now. You were so early, man. I was on your YouTube. Some of those videos were like 10, 15 years old. Oh, yeah, yeah.

I've been around. I think that I had another channel before that I was posting videos in 2007. But I only posted like three. That's great. So I don't really count it until 20, I think late 2009, early 2010, something like that. So you had no idea esports was going to blow up like that? No. You know what?

I've just always been a gamer. I was kind of like a lonely kid. I lived away from a lot of my friends. I only seen them at school. So at home, I just always grew up playing video games. And so ever since I was little, I was posting on video game forums and message boards. And so once YouTube came out, I just took the stuff that I was posting on message boards and started putting it on YouTube because I've always been a fan of just obviously building a little community around, yo, I love this

game. You do too? Let's talk about it. So that's just kind of why I started. That's dope. So how nice were you at COD? Were you like top 100 or something? Okay.

So I actually got into Call of Duty just because my friends were all playing it and I got pretty good. I would say that I was like a big pub stomper guy. So I got popular on YouTube for pub stomping with sniper rifles. I would have games like 96 kills, zero deaths, post that. So I was good at pub stomping, and I played a little bit in the professional scene. I won a little bit of money here and there, but I called myself a pro Call of Duty player, a pro video gamer or whatever, but really that's just based off I've made money off of playing video games.

I was never a professional like the actual pros. And back then, the money wasn't that insane, right? Right, yeah. Just a few hundred here and there or a few thousand here and there. Now it's like a million for Fortnite. Yo, right? Oh, man. Yeah, I was ahead of the curve, I think.

No, literally, Bugo won, what was it, a million dollars? I think three. Three million? Three million, yeah. And he was like 18 years old at the time. Yeah, crazy. And now he's still doing great. He's got his Icon skin in Fortnite, all of that stuff.

So, yeah, the prize is definitely better than the $300 prize back in the day. Nuts. And now it seems live streaming is that next kind of wave, honestly. Those guys are making crazy bags. Yeah, we actually, so I was at the Super Bowl, obviously, and I brought out Jake Paul and Logan Paul, the fake ones. I don't know if you've seen them. I saw that.

And, man, we got everybody. We just went over to Kai Sennett's stream. I saw that one. Did you see that? He actually thought it was them. Yo, love it. And then Logan Paul comes up, the fake Logan, and he's like, wait a second. Something's going on here.

He figures out that it's the doppelganger. And then he looks at Jake and he's like, wait, wait, you're an imposter too. The fake Jake looks so good. Yeah, the fake Jake looks more realistic than the fake Logan. Right, he's still here too if you want me to bring him down. We'll have him on for sure. So what's their whole thing? They just imitate them?

So basically these guys got popular a few years ago, and especially Rodney, the fake Logan Paul, he had no idea who Logan Paul even was. I think he's close to 40. He was making TikToks with his kids, and everybody Rodney, the fake Logan Paul. He had no idea who Logan Paul even was. I think he's close to 40. He was making TikToks with his kids, and everybody kept saying, yo, why does this dude look like Logan Paul? So he ended up looking the guy up, saying, yo, I do look like this man. Jake Paul's team reached out to him, brought him out,

so now he hosts Impulsive when Logan can't make it. He does little fan meetups if Logan can't make it. What? Are you serious? Yeah. Oh oh i didn't know that hopefully he's gonna be a stunt double for him in the wwe soon is what i've been hearing he might need that logan's been getting injured out there man right right yo bring in the stunt double bring in the clone for real would you ever try uh power slap i know there was just an event friday you know what power slap so i already agreed to do a bare knuckle mma fight i agreed to do a bare knknuckle MMA fight. I agreed to do a bare-knuckle boxing fight, but I would never agree to do a power slap fight.

That's crazy. Yeah, so my last boxing, just to give you a little taste of why I wouldn't, my last boxing fight, I didn't get hit at all. So I fought temper. I lost. I fought on Ludwig's Mogul Moves boxing, the next one. The guy didn't touch me. Well, he touched me.

He actually swiped my contact out of my eye. Great game plan somehow. And that's cool. The hope of getting in there and doing well and not getting hit is available if you do regular fights like mma or boxing i might go into an mma fight take the guy down choke him out before he even gets a punch off right but the power slap thing you're agreeing to just get punched basically in the face which is scary dude i went to one not the last one the one before but pretty much whoever went first won like 80 of the time oh really yeah i've i went to one not the last one the one before but pretty much whoever went first won like 80 of the time oh really yeah i've only been to one or two i just i don't know

if i could stand there and take because you're basically standing there going yes punch me in the face yeah and now they're at the point where everyone's training and stuff so people are actually knocking you out on the first hit like man did you did you go to this last one a couple no how was it it was great it was It was fantastic. Everybody was there, obviously. It's just, I will say, very, very fun events to go to, but probably not that fun to compete in. No. Dude, one guy got carted out, I think, when I went.

Oh, really? Yeah, I thought he died. I mean, he was on the ground for like five minutes. Well, they call it power slap, but really what it is, it's like people are getting hit with the palm of their hand. This is just a punch. This is a punch that hurts you and not me. And some of them miss hit on purpose the first one.

So they'll pretty much knock you out bone to bone. Man, yeah, that's too scary. No amount of money for me. Nope. Because that's permanent brain damage. You're just agreeing to it. I mean, yeah, no chance. It's fun to watch, but no, I'm good on that.

Yes, sir. Talk to me about Misfits Boxing, man. Misfits Boxing. Obviously. Misfits Boxing. Obviously, 2018, we started the Influencer Boxing. And then in 2022, Misfits Boxing came about. Happy Punch came about. And I believe that we signed a deal with The Zone at Misfits 5. So now KSI really has built an empire for all the Influencer Boxers, all the people who want to be involved.

It's great what Jake Paul is doing, but really I believe that he went the – and he'll say the same thing. Jake Paul went the professional route, signing professional fighters to MVP with Misfits Boxing. He really laid out the landscape for the influencer boxers. So what we do over at Misfits is much more of a mix of WWE and amateur professional boxing. And i think that that's what influencer boxing is it's supposed to be entertaining it's supposed to be more akin

to wwe these guys are really training they're really having full camps they're real fights but we're bringing a little bit more of that influencer flair to each fight right do you guys have any events coming up yes of course we got uh we haven't announced the next event but we have one coming up in the next month. Okay. Well, this drops in a month if you want to announce it now. Oh, it does? Okay.

Beautiful. So not everything's signed and sealed, but Misfits 13 is happening. I don't know if I can say exactly where yet. Okay. But we're doing a Brazil card this year. If you guys watch the Prime card, have you all seen the Prime card? We're doing something possibly even bigger. We got a couple of those events planned for this year. If you guys watch the Prime Card, if you've all seen the Prime Card, we're doing something possibly even bigger. We've got a couple of those events

planned for this year. We've got two massive events. Two massive ones and then a handful of other non-PPV events. They're all going to be amazing. Sold out crowds every time, especially in the UK. We're going to build the American fan base this year as well. A lot of good fighters that you all know are going to be

on it. Let's go. UK loves boxing out there, right? UK scene. You know what? It's just so easy out there because everybody knows KSI. Everybody knows Misfits. And you can go across the country in three hours. You know, out here, it's been, I think the biggest crowd that we had out here was for me and FaZe Temper's fight.

And I believe that we did, I think we did close to 7,000 out there. Damn. But it's just so tough in America to say, hey, we're fighting. Come through. But out here, you've got to take a plane. You've got to drive for 18 hours to get a few states over. Facts. Over in the UK, you just hop on the tube,

and you take a 45-minute travel across the country, and you can go anywhere. So those crowds are always packed. Yeah. Elon, we need you to make that hyperloop. Yo, yo, give us a loop. They were going to make one to la but i think he just yeah what's been going on with it i think he stopped it for some reason really yeah i was pretty pumped for it because oh my god driving to la from here is always a mission yeah i always do the late night drive you know put on a podcast this one yeah and just drive out there a little meditation i love that man

who do you think the best YouTube boxer is right now? The best YouTube boxer as of right now? I mean, we just saw Jake Paul versus Tommy Fury, and then we saw KSI versus Tommy Fury, and they both, I think that they both could have, it could have gone either way, I think, with both of them. But if you're asking me, I think that KSI is the best influencer boxer.

And you're from the U.S., so that's quite the statement. I know, I know. And I've seen all these guys. I've been around everybody since the beginning. I just think that KSI brings something a little bit different from the U.S., so that's quite the statement. I know, I know. And I've seen all these guys. I've been around everybody since the beginning. I just think that KSI brings something a little bit different to the table. I think that Jake is more technically sound. But I think that KSI has a little bit more of that gamesmanship that you need to win the fights. Yeah, his fights just seem more raw.

He's willing to get nitty-gritty. He's got that dog in him, as they say. He takes those risks, whereas Jake is more calculated. He's going to fight from back. Yeah, and I do think that Jake is the better boxer. Technically, I just think that KSI would win that fight. Yeah, if he gets in there and gets one punch. All it takes is one punch.

For sure, and also there's a mentality that KSI has that I see in Jake Paul, but not to the same extent as KSI. Absolutely. You got fired from GameStop. Yes, I did. What happened there? So I was working at GameStop for a few years after college, and I love you, GameStop.

And big fan of Call of Duty at the time. They hadn't announced Black Ops 3 yet, but we had gotten the marketing materials for it. So I did something that would not be recommended. I opened up the street data materials a couple weeks early. And I started posting content to YouTube and Twitter, which is frowned upon. And I went into work one day. They gave me a few extra hours.

And the guy from Activision and the guy that runs GameStop Las Vegas was there. And basically, they just told me that I had a robust following and I was a great guy but i was dumb and i'm fired you know this is crazy so but that went super viral and it kind of that was the first time that i really made good money i think i made 20 grand that month off of youtube when i told that story which is you know more than i was making games and that's a lot too a million percent and you know they were upset with me for a while activision was upset with me for maybe about two years i didn't really they didn't talk to me but after that gamestop flew me to some events activision flew me out to the call of duty events so they all came around to it eventually all is forgiven i think you were way ahead of your time on that's bro that's all it was now it's normal now it's normal and now people appreciate companies

appreciate that type of publicity and you know what they did change some rules at GameStop I know that there was like a nationwide rule change because of me and so even to this day if you go to any GameStop and somebody has been working there for a long time they're all like oh yeah I remember that we had to change everything because of you which is so funny I'm like infamous to some degree I don't know if it's because we've gotten older but GameStop doesn't hit the same for me anymore. You know, man, I think that it's a blockbuster thing. It's always going to be nostalgic, right? And if there was a blockbuster right now, I'd probably go to it.

And I do love GameStop. I went there the other day. I bought like three PlayStation 5s for some people. And I still love it, man. And I would honestly GameStop take me back. I'll work there part-time on the weekends. I would love it. I still love it, bro. Good memories. good memories yeah no definitely good memories man as a kid buying

those used ds games for like eight bucks yeah yeah you're right trading in some games and like not being able to afford the game getting some games trading them in still good i still love that feeling feeling best call of duty game of all time the best cod of all time so i actually have a black ops one tattoo on me so i'm gonna have to say black ops 1 is my favorite yeah black ops 1 i think that the so black ops 1 is my favorite i think the best call of duty ever though is probably black ops 2 okay yeah wow because i hear modern i've never played any but modern warfare 2 comes up a lot that's crazy you never played any first off that's insane never played it that's nuts modern warfare 2 so people are

either like treyarch people like the black Black Ops series, or they're the Modern Warfare series. I've always been more of a Black Ops guy. Yeah. So the general answer is Modern Warfare 2 or Black Ops 2, depending, right? So I also love Advanced Warfare, which a lot of people hate. That's the one with the jetpacks where you fly around. But I thought it increased the skill gap to such a degree that it made it really fun for

me. So that's actually my top three as well filled up but modern warfare 2 great I think a lot of people are nostalgic about it I think it's a good game, but I like the a little bit slower pace of the black ops series Yeah, I think I never got into it because I was a PC gamer. Okay, and it wasn't as big on PC What games did you play on PC team fortress to left 4 dead? Okay for dead to combat arms Rune scape maple story big PC guy okay that makes sense yeah huge i was that one nerd kid in school that everyone else played xbox but now it's cool now it's awesome now it's dope you're ahead of the curve yeah now it's like damn

everyone's coming to pc game it's nowadays it's like if you don't game it's like that's kind of weird you know yeah all the players switch because of fortnite right yeah because you can build easier yeah i actually i never even had a gaming pc until fortnite once i uh started making fortnite content i ended up going and getting a pc yeah fortnite revolutionized the gaming space when i did i wonder when's the next time we're gonna see a game as big as fortnite or fortnite's just gonna continue down the path of being being the absolute monster that it is because the stuff that they're doing, I think Disney just put like a billion dollars into them or something. They just bought them out, right?

They did something. Yeah, not fully, but they definitely put a lot of money into it. 1.5 billion, I saw. That's crazy. I wonder what's going to happen there because they just did that Lego collab. It's like a whole other game. It's like Minecraft and Fortnite. They just did Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle Club.

Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, it's actually crazy because I stopped playing for five years and i thought it was dead right i just i just started playing a month or yeah a month ago there's still a million people a day on there oh yeah of course that's so funny i stopped playing five years ago like so you played a game and then you put it down no for real like i had to focus on work because yeah fortnite's a dick thing as you know you still game heavy oh yeah not not as much as i not as much as i was playing before i don't game as much as i did thing, as you know. Do you still game heavy? Oh, yeah. Not as much as I was playing before. I don't game as much as I did before,

but still, you know, at least six-hour days. Damn. Yeah. Okay. But before, it was a lot more. I was really investing my time into it. Oh, yeah. Before.

Prestige Master. Yeah, 12, 15-hour days, man. Exactly. Hey, hard work, but somebody's got to do it. Yeah. But we paved the way, man. Now these people are making millions. It's cool to see.

Yeah, it's awesome. It's cool to me to think back, and people say, I was streaming on Twitch when it was just in TV. People are like, wow, you really got in the game early. I was making Call of Duty videos in 2009. People are like,

wow, you really got in there early. I was on TikTok in 2019. I signed a deal with them. They're like, wow, you got in early. I did the first influencer boxing. They're like, wow, you're a pioneer of the space.

I think they have a pretty good vision for what's coming, which I'll give myself credit for that, and I'm going to continue to try to be on that wave. You have such good vision, you're too early. Yeah, you know what? My dad had the same problem. I always tell my dad, man, he was the dad that had the video camera everywhere growing up. That was my dad. I'm like, man, if you were just 10 years later, you'd be like roman atwood or one of these massive like vlog dads you know absolutely so i just grew up with him with the camera around all the time so i've been so used to it i've

never really thought anything of it you know did you grow up in vegas yeah i'm born and raised out here in vegas nice dude i gotta admit i love it here where are you from i'm from jersey oh okay my dad's from jersey oh dope yeah perfect so my dad's from jersey he was uh actually my dad almost you know forrest gump yeah my dad's almost the same guy went to the army took a bicycle and rode it across country what and on his way back he met my mom here in vegas no they had me and um here i am so you were a one-night stand uh i would like to say maybe a two-night stand okay i was a one-night stand really oh okay i didn't find out yeah i didn't find out till a few years ago but So you were a one-night stand? I would like to say maybe a two-night stand. Okay, I was a one-night stand. Really? Oh, okay.

I didn't find out until a few years ago, but interesting, right? Yeah, my dad's like, he's like, yeah, I was riding across the country on my bike because I needed to lose some weight. He was in newspapers and everything. Yeah. And he's like, on the way back, you just popped up in Vegas, and then I've been stuck here ever since. It's been 30 years. Dude, the amount of discipline and leg strength. I'm just picturing.

I can't even ride a bike for 20 minutes. Yeah, I'll introduce you to my dad afterwards. Yeah, he's a great guy. His legs were like this back in the day. Oh, my God. He does jujitsu now with me as well. He just got his purple belt, but he had knee surgery, so he's in the process of healing.

How long did it take to go back? Did he go back and forth? Yeah, so you'd have to ask him this story. I don't know how long it took but i do know that all his friends uh kept uh showing up in different towns and seeing him taking pictures he's got pictures with just like people from the town would say that he's coming through like in the newspaper and he'd say it's almost exactly the same as forrest gump i'm pretty sure that forrest gump is based off my father dude that's legendary because this is back in the

day where bikes weren't what they were like yeah yeah no it was literally just some random bicycle he got from a garage sale yeah that's in jersey too by the way that's even more impressive right because the bikes these days i mean they're damn near riding you like they're electric and stuff yeah yeah this definitely was not an electric bike it was powered by a um a good hard-working man from the 1960s love that man was he a big influence on all your entrepreneurial stuff? Yeah, I would say probably the biggest influence. Sick. Yeah, my dad's like my best friend.

Same with my dad, dude. He sold books on the side. I would go to book sales with him, dumpster dive. He would sell them on Amazon and eBay, man. Never realized how much it impacted me to do business. Yeah, well, so growing up here in Vegas, my dad worked at all the conventions. And so every convention my whole life growing up, he'd hand me a stack of his business cards.

And he's like, don't come back to the booth until you shook everybody's hand and you gave them all a business card. And this is me as like a 5-year-old, 6-year-old, 7-year-old. So I'm just growing up around so many people. I've met probably tens of thousands of people, you know. And it really applies heavily to this business because all day long I'm just meeting people or doing things or doing podcasts or connecting people. I'm really a facilitator of things. And I know for a fact that growing up in Vegas with my dad made that possible for me. That's huge.

Yeah, networking is crucial. And you've got one of the biggest networks I know. Yeah. You know what? I do think that I'm probably one of the most well-connected guys in the industry. You are, dude. It's crazy. I was going through your IG and I'm like, damn.

Wait a second. I might not be the most well-known guy, but I definitely would argue that I'm one of the most well-connected guys. But that's actually the best place to be because you can't be canceled. No one gives a shit, but you have all these connections. Right? No, for sure. I can connect. I always talk about this.

I was with Bryce Hall and all those boys the other day, and they needed a connection to another massive name. They came up, they're like, yo, I need this connection. Let's set up. And we did it. I think they're doing an eight-figure deal right now or something. You get a little piece of that, and you can just play connector all day. That'd be beautiful. That's dope, dude. What are your thoughts on chess boxing?

You know what? I had never even heard of chess boxing, but apparently it's popular over in like eastern europe and india uh and i have to say when i told it to uh when i posted on my socials and i told my friends about it uh everybody was kind of didn't know what to expect but i actually think that it's it might even be more exciting than boxing to somebody did you happen to watch it i watched alex Botez fight that blonde girl. Okay, yeah, yeah.

The Botez sisters, yeah, they fought. And I think that what's crazy to me about that crowd, I think that was a 10,000-person arena. Yeah. And it was packed. And when I fought, I would hit the guy, stumble the guy, the ref would intervene, the whole crowd would be like, oh, my gosh.

Oh, wait, you did it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, shit. I fought PewDiePie's friend, Chris Broad. Oh, nice. I didn it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, s***. I fought PewDiePie's friend Chris Broad on it. Oh, nice. I didn't know you played chess. Yeah. You know what?

I know how to play chess. I was in chess club, but I'm not like a chess pro. I know how to play. Do you know your ELO or no? It's probably like 800. Okay. So really not great. Yeah.

Really not great. So you focus on the boxing. Yeah, yeah. So I focus on the boxing. But also yeah. So I focus on the boxing. But also I was winning the chess against the guy, to be fair. But that is so crazy because when I would hit the guy and the ref would intervene, the crowd would be like, whoa, whoa. But then when I took his queen, the crowd's like, oh, my God. It's like so wild.

It's so exciting, too. Even I watch back some of the fights sometimes. And, man, it really has me super invested just because the crazy juxtaposition of the mental game versus the physical game back and forth really throws you off. I would consider it. I'm a 1300 in chess, and I got reach, so I would consider it. Bro, you got tall, buddy. What's your reach? 84?

It's pretty much my wingspan. John Jones reach. Yeah, I know, right? That's a dream guess right there. Right? That's a dream matchup. Dream matchup. Chess boxing, though. Yeah, I know, right? That's a dream guest right there. Right? That's a dream matchup. Dream matchup. Chess boxing, though.

Yeah, chess boxing for sure. All right, man. Well, anything you want to promote or close off with? Please follow me on all my socials at Faze Dirty or at Overt Flow or at Happy Punch. Thank you so much for having me. A bunch of fights coming this year. We got a bare-knuckle boxing fight. We got Misfits MMA, the first

ever influencer MMA event is happening. And then I'm doing a bare-knuckle MMA fight at the end of the year. Fire. Thanks for coming on, brother. Thank you, bro. Appreciate you. Yeah, thanks for watching, guys, as always. See you tomorrow.