Digital Social Hour - Is Social Media Flexing Hurting Your Business? | Harry Paul Davies DSH #707

Episode Date: September 8, 2024

🚗💰 Is social media flexing hurting your business? Tune in now to find out! In this eye-opening episode of the Digital Social Hour, Sean Kelly welcomes Harry Paul Davies, a young entrepreneur with a passion for fast cars and a unique journey in the OnlyF*ns management industry. Discover how Harry navigates the challenges of parental disapproval and societal norms while building a successful business at just 22. 🌟   Join the conversation as Harry shares insights on the global car market, the reality of running a professional agency, and the impact of social media flexing on business. Packed with valuable insights, this episode is a must-watch for anyone looking to understand the balance between success and societal expectations. Don't miss out—watch now and subscribe for more insider secrets! 📺 Hit that subscribe button and stay tuned for more engaging stories on the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! 🚀   #CarDealership #UsedCarBubble #UkUsedCarPrices #UsedCarPrices #UsedCarsForSale   #BestUsedCars #CarPrices #NewCarPrices #UkUsedCarMarket #UkCarPrices   CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 00:25 - Harry's Journey into OnlyF*ns 06:38 - Family Disconnection Over OnlyF*ns 10:57 - The Debate: Is Biohacking Overrated? 14:29 - Oli's Affection for Los Angeles 20:30 - Launching a Charity at 22 22:35 - The Dynamics of Give and Take 23:20 - Dealing with Online Hate 24:40 - Understanding the Red Pill Movement 26:20 - Exploring Feminism 27:40 - The Importance of Neutrality 29:55 - Challenges in Making Friends at Your Age 31:33 - Harry's Future Plans 32:57 - Connecting with Harry Online   APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: [e-mail]   GUEST: Harry Paul Davies https://www.instagram.com/harrypauldavies https://x.com/harrypauldavies https://www.youtube.com/@UCgrfFUxCh8nSfTDNXR0q0BQ   SPONSORS: Deposyt Payment Processing: https://www.deposyt.com/seankelly   LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

how lucky you are to be born in a first world country. You know, if you take a trip like I have to some of the Eastern European countries or, you know, anywhere in Africa, anywhere like that, you pretty quickly realize just how lucky you are. And, you know, your problems and, you know, family issues and whatever are pretty small in comparison to what is actually going on in the world. So you have to have some perspective on it. Right.

Otherwise, you'll end up driving yourself crazy. Yeah, first world problems, right? Exactly. All right, guys, you got Harry Paul Davis here today, pulled today pulled up in the aston martin man nice to meet you good stuff and you got quite a bit big car collection right yeah yeah cars always something i've been super into i think if you if you grew up in the uk um you obviously grew up watching james bond and that that whole thing and obviously aston martin right the principal brand of that has always been something that i've wanted i've got three of them now dang um but yeah always been a massive massive fan that's impressive are cars more expensive out there in the uk no the complete opposite so

i'll tell you a story so in the uk you can pick up a mclaren 720s which is a car i bought in the u.s last week um in the u.s quarter million dollars in the uk 120 000 pounds whoa yeah so that's like almost half the price literally you're looking about 40 off off uk and there's no tax on it as well um in the uk not there's no like state tax or anything like that so i wonder if you could arbitrage that start buying them there and then the problem is the hand of drive so obviously in the uk you're on left hand left hand drive in the us no the way around sorry in the uk you've got right hand drive us left hand drive and the problem with that is they don't like you bringing cars they have got the wrong steering wheel, essentially,

on what they consider the wrong side. Otherwise, you could probably make an absolute killing. And it'd probably be expensive to change the side of the wheel. Yeah, and also when you take the car in for service, the parts won't match up and whatever. So it's a bit of a hassle. But I mean, car prices in the UK are dramatically, dramatically changing. Interesting.

How do you feel about McLarens? Because I hear negative things about them. Well, I bought one a week ago and it's already broken. At the end of the day, they are a bit unreliable, but the reason for that is they're just ridiculously fast. If you make something that fast, you can't really expect it to be 100% reliable all the time.

It doesn't weigh anything. They're obviously skimping on that, kind of cutting over the quality to make it incredibly, incredibly fast. But luckily, I mean, I bought mine from McLaren, so I got warranty. Yeah, the infotainment stopped working but the worst the worst part about that is that the infotainment is also what controls the air conditioning and it wasn't on and i had to drive it to the service center for an hour in the la heat so you're not that

a weekend to get in the car but it is where it's you know first world problems crazy and you just turned 22 just turned 22 we got to dive into how you're even affording this at this yeah for sure so i own an only fans management agency um now that's something that I've done for a little bit over two years. And it's kind of two elements of that. So we have the management agency, and then we also have the consulting part. So where, you know, other agencies will essentially pay us for coaching and consulting, or even, you know, guys will maybe pay us to actually just start that agency from scratch as a business model. And those are kind of the two elements. Now, I was working at a place called Morrison's in the UK. You've been to the UK, haven't you?

I haven't actually. You haven't ever? I've been to Ireland. Morrison's is essentially like the equivalent of maybe Walmart over here. A supermarket is what we call it. You call it a grocery store. Now, I was working in the yogurt section. So my job was basically you take the palette of yogurts and butter from the back

and you take it to the front, stack it in all the fridges, make sure that everything's kind of arranged nicely. And that's what I was doing at the time. Now, a girl that worked there with me was on break one day, and she said, oh, look at this. I made $200 last night. And obviously at the time, bear in mind, in the UK, minimum wage is £8.50 an hour.

So 10-ish dollars. It's not as good as the minimum wage here. That's what I was working for. And she was like, oh, I made $200. And I was like, well, that's fucking crazy. How did you do that? And she showed me her OnlyFans account. And obviously at the time,

there was a lot more of a stigma around OnlyFans. I mean, nowadays, it's very much socially accepted. A lot of girls are kind of very supportive, you go girl, et cetera, et cetera. At the time, it wasn't like that. At the time, OnlyFans um as essentially as you know like a big kind of porn website it was very very taboo and i was like like whoa oh my god no like that's crazy you're doing this you're doing this and she was like oh actually no i literally just sold a

picture of me in a bikini to some guy that was speaking to me on there and i was like so hold on you you you were at home you know just got off shift whatever and you made 200 just from selling a picture that you'd post on instagram anyway and she was like yeah I was like holy shit that's crazy so I knew a little bit about kind of marketing etc on TikTok because like like every young guy has nowadays I'm sure you haven't probably anyone watching this has as well you know I tried a couple of business models you know I tried the organic drop shipping with TikTok when I was like I had I had a little bit of understanding about you know how to do marketing etc um online so I just said so I was like well if I can help you grow this um you know can you pay me so she online so i just said so i was like well if i can help

you grow this um you know can you pay me so she was paying me 200 a week and i'd essentially help her with tiktoks and sort of send over ideas and whatnot and try and really grow that and it worked now at that point i thought hmm but the amount that she's making here because back in the day was even easier to earn on only fans you know you've got you know nowadays there's more people on it so there's more competition back then then it was not like that. It was incredibly, incredibly easy, kind of the golden age, really. And essentially she, I was helping her and I kind of thought to myself,

well, you know, if you're making all this, okay, why don't I just take a percentage and help you? Now, start doing that. Okay, so that was cool. Now, what happened was one week. Hey, Prime members. Are you tired of ads interfering with your favorite podcasts?

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there's got to be a better way of doing this where you can have somebody on the account 24 hours a day. Like if you start a big business now you need to have 24 hour customer support it just gives gives you you know a really good experience and that was when i had the idea of hiring somebody to do the chatting for her right so i hired one of my friends at the time i was like well i'll give you 20 of whatever you make he hopped on the account and started working now the real real big change occurred when i realized that you could have multiple people logged into an account at one time.

I didn't even know if that was a thing, right? I was literally a total newbie to it. And essentially then from that point onwards, I had multiple chatters on the account, kind of working 24-7 and took on more clients. And it grew pretty dramatically from there. And then about a year or so ago, because we had so many agencies coming to me and my business partner, Marcus, asking for advice and asking for help we thought you know why don't we start start charging for this and then the consulting branch was born and since then we've helped

over a thousand guys start agencies wow scratch and make money yeah yeah um so yeah that's that's kind of how how i essentially got into it and really where the business is at now yeah so people think they're chatting to the girl but it's's just some guy in India. Yeah. Funnily, it's funny you say that, Philippines is usually the best place to sort of chat us from. The quality of English is great. And obviously the kind of the labor costs are very, very low. So the profit margins are good. Got it. I mean, our staff in the Philippines are balling out. $400 in the Philippines is like 3x what the normal wage is. That's wild. Let's talk about some of the downsides of this because your parents actually cut you off because of this, right?

Yeah, okay, cool. So I've never even talked about this on the podcast before, so kind of probably a good place to start. So my parents are kind of fairly religious. They're very much of the, you know, kind of the normal 9-5 mindset. I'm not going to go into the whole cringy, oh, they're in the matrix or whatever, but that kind of element. As 99.9% of people's parents are, I don't know how your parents were.

No, they definitely were. Exactly. They were until they saw what you were doing, right? I feel that you can't really blame parents for that because it's how they were raised. It's how they were brought up. They were brought up in a totally different time. So yeah, as soon as they kind of found out what I was doing, I'll tell you the story a bit. So I started making some money. Obviously, I've always loved my cars. And my first ever nice car was a Jaguar F-Pace like a 4x4 Jaguar not really that common over here but in the UK Jaguars are pretty cool and I drove home came home in that I had it like fully blacked out like proper drug dealer spec car right and they

kind of sat me down and they were like you know like what's going on you know you know a couple of months ago you're working at Morrison's and now you're driving around in a 40 grand car. And yeah, I just explained it to them. And then they were like, you know, like, we can't, sorry, we don't want to be associated with this. And I've not really spoken to them since. Holy crap.

I know, and I know that that sounds so, so wild. And obviously it's unfortunate I don't have a closer relationship with my parents. You know, it is something that is, it's not ideal. But at the end of the day, and the way that I kind of view life and i view everything in general is you know many many people would kill for what i've got now in terms of the money that the cars the property whatever right they they would kill to have my life okay and there's people in the world with horrific horrific situations you know so i'm not going to sit here i'm not going to live every

single day of my life being upset about something that's happened because I've got to do what's right for myself and what I know is right for me. There's always somebody in life, and this is whenever I hear any of my friends who are very, very wealthy complaining or they're depressed or whatever, I always say, you've got to realize how lucky you are. You've got to realize how lucky you are to be born in a first world country right you know if you you take a trip like i have to you know some of the eastern european countries or um you know anywhere in africa anywhere like that you you pretty pretty quickly realize just how lucky you are and you know your problems and you know family issues and whatever are pretty small in comparison to what is actually going on in the world so you have to have some perspective on it right otherwise you'll end up driving yourself crazy yeah first world problems right exactly that's a big one though i feel like because only fans is more normalized now do you think it's worth reaching back out because you also don't even see any of your talent you're not really yeah these girls this is this is another

thing another thing i kind of want to address because the only fans industry as a whole in my opinion gets a really really bad name but it only gets a bad name because there are a few bad apples right now with our agency and the way that we work i've never met a model in real life i've got no i have no intention of doing so. It just doesn't need to be done. We run an extremely professional marketing agency, and that's it. I don't need to have any sort of personal relationship with the models. Everyone online is always like, oh, do you date your models as well?

It's fucking stupidity like that. No, I run a marketing agency and I run a business. Of course, yeah, I have a really great working relationship with a with a lot of the models we work with, because if somebody came along and, you know, made you a few million dollars, you're probably going to have a really good relationship with them. No. Um, but no, I never, that you never want to blur the, the, the, the line of kind of personal and business. Um, but no, you are right. It's becoming more socially accepted. And in my opinion, that is a good thing because at the end of the day, if these models weren't on OnlyFans only fans what what else would they be doing if

if you know if they're on only fans maybe they'd be doing i don't know prostitution something like that's something that's actually dangerous right you know if anything only fans has essentially developed the sex industry to become not only safer but also more profitable that that's the way that i view it now yeah well a lot of people mix in the red pill movement with the OF management, so I could see why it gets bad. Yeah, exactly. I feel like it's running a marketing agency. You're essentially helping to market a product, which is the girl or the guys or trans, whatever, OnlyFans. We have male models, we have female models, we have trans models, black, white, it doesn't matter. There's a market

for everything, but you're running a professional marketing agency. And this is something that I make very, very clear to anyone that joins our info product company and kind of hops on board with us for the consulting part. You're running a professional business. You're not trying to become the next fucking, I don't know, fur coat wearing, cigar smoking, whatever. It's not the way it is. Let's dive into health. You pulled up drinking a Monster. You said you eat McDonald's chicken nuggets every day. Most days. Do you think that's sustainable over time? Because you're young now.

Yeah. So do you think this biohacking health movement is kind of- I think the whole biohacking health movement, it's gone too far. Look, I agree to an extent with eating healthy, it's good for you. If I'm going to cut or whatever, yeah, okay, I'll eat healthy. I'll cut down on the chicken nuggets, whatever. But really, you know, all these people that are coming on and they're saying, oh, you can't drink water unless it's in a glass bottle, which I see you've got a glass bottle there.

You know, or you can't drink water out of plastic bottles because of microplastics. Grow the fuck up. Like our ancestors were drinking water out of rivers, right? Yeah. People in Africa drinking water out of, you know people in africa drinking water out of you know dirty disease infested lakes and you know for the most part it's not it's not terrible so i really don't feel like if we're if you know if you're in a first world country and you're drinking from these

these plastic bottles or whatever or you know you're you're not going to drink this milk because it's been pasteurized it's over the top right in in my opinion yeah there's a lot of people drinking raw milk right now i don't get it at all and eating raw meat yes yeah so yeah very good friend of mine he's big on the raw i actually tried it today i'll send you a video afterwards if you want to put it up on the screen you get sick no i was i was absolutely fine off it but i mean it didn't taste as good as cooked meat so i didn't didn't really kind of understand are you big into the whole i don't eat just raw milk raw meat i mean i'd rather cook me too i mean you know but i'm i would say i'm pretty health conscious yeah yeah i think it's important because you want to optimize your health because it affects your business you're young so you could eat whatever the fuck you want

right now like i was like that too i used to eat fast food chipotle every single day but you'll see as you get older it'll change we'll see no trust me it will i get sore after just going on a run these days like it sucks getting older but there is definitely a genetic element to it as well yeah did your grandparents live really long yeah okay so you got genes on your side hopefully but doctors say that's only 20 of it to be honest i i i feel like i agree, eating healthy is a good thing. That's known. If you eat too much fast food, you will get fat, right? For sure.

But all these people that have a genuine fear of eating fast food every once in a while or drinking from a plastic bottle or having a monster, that's when it becomes a little bit ridiculous, in my opinion. I feel that. I'd be interested to see your blood results. I'll do it.

If you've got to connect, I'll do it. I i feel like it will be good we'll set it up i mean we'll see where your testosterone's at mine was loaded yeah do you feel like you got good t levels yeah i'm strong you know box four times a week oh shit you're boxing like professionally or just no okay i don't think it's worth it for the health reasons. Oh, boxing-wise? Yeah, just the brain damage. I mean, we could get into this, but look at a lot of professional fighters that are retired and look at the brain damage they've sustained.

Yeah, for sure. I mean, it's like everything in life. There's always a risk and a reward. If you're a professional fighter and you're making a hell of a lot of money, and you're doing it for sure. I've got a very, very good friend of mine who is a world champion boxer,

and in his eyes, he said he already feels some of the effects of it which is a shame he gets can be forgetful um you know has a bit of memory loss every now and then or whatever and obviously that's not good but then he's getting paid 10 million dollars a fight and that's going to set his family up for generations on generations so i mean it's where you draw the line right kind of comes down to you know where you feel comfortable taking that risk and obviously people have different risk tolerances that makes sense. Yeah, if you're willing to throw away a bit of your health, maybe some years off your life

to save money for your family, I could see that 100%. I think I'm a little too selfish for that. Yeah? Yeah. I don't got kids yet or anything. I saw one of your YouTube videos. You were shopping for $8 million house in LA.

Yeah. Yeah, so I'm looking to buy a house in LA. Damn, why LA? I just love it. I've always loved it. the reason the reason that i'm obviously living there now is i just i i grew up watching american tv if anyone's watching this and has ever watched a show called modern family i don't know if i've heard yeah it's a modern family sitcom based in la right and um it just i grew up watching it every day i've've always loved LA. Obviously, I played GTA as a kid. I know this probably to the outside looking in

sounds such a ridiculous play, such a ridiculous, ridiculous reason for kind of living somewhere. But I just think it's the coolest place ever. I don't know, the Hollywood Hills, the glitz and glam, I really like it. The weather's hard to beat. Yes, I agree with that as well.

And there's not many other places in the world, especially with California, where you can go surfing in the morning and you can be skiing in the afternoon as well. Business is great. Weather's great. Tax well business is great weather's great taxes are not great not great but if you're willing to pay 15 i mean i i i just get a really good vibe there so i think sometimes you just got to do what you know is right and obviously proximity to vegas is great as well i just drove here for the weekend yeah it's a cool place to live it's hard to be

i went i spent a bit of time in miami but I wasn't a huge fan, to be fair. I don't like the energy there. It's just scam-ish. Yeah, too many people rented Lamborghinis and chilling courses. Yeah, I'm not a fan of the, we could get into this, the flexing on social media.

No, okay, interesting. Yeah, what do you think of that? Like, I get it from a business point of view. Yeah, like, I feel like if you're flexing just to flex, you're probably a bit of a prick. But if you're doing it from a business point of view, because at the end of the day, it gets eyes, as you know. Why do you think I've got a cowboy hat on right now?

You know what I mean? You do have to do things with social media to get eyes. It's always been the same 20 years ago. Do something controversial in the media and the newspapers will come out and there'll be a big story on it, whatever. You really do have to put yourself out there and the flex is a part of that you know it's it's the glamour of the lifestyle especially if you're in something where it's you know info product related or it's related to you know helping people start a business or scale their business if i'm just sat in a in a shit one bedroom apartment i could have you know a few million dollars in the bank account who gives

a shit because no one's going to see that and it doesn't come across as well you know that's why i mean why do you think the watch industry is such a huge thing because it's almost like a an essentially a bit of a statement element really without um yeah without having kind of the rest of it so i in my opinion i think yeah the flexing if you're just doing it to flex it's not great i mean that's it's kind of just arrogance at that point but most people that you see doing it are doing it from a business point of view i'm certainly doing it from a business point of view. I don't like doing it. It doesn't make me particularly happy. If I could have it my way and, you know, have all the money that I've got now and live a completely anonymous life and have no social media, I'd do it. It would be a lot simpler of a life,

you know, but unfortunately that's not the way the world works. Yeah. The last time I flexed materialism, I got, I almost got robbed. So I do not do it anymore. And now I flex just travel. Yeah. That's a flex in itself though you know if you're watching and you you know you can appreciate the fact that you fly into all these different countries staying at these lovely places you know people people can definitely associate a value with that so it's flexing in a way it's just whether you know not everyone has to be there with the watches doing all this but 100 that's actually one of my favorite ways to spend money yeah travel yeah what kind of places have you been to? Been to 15 countries.

I'd say Greece is top and Thailand was really fun. Thailand. I've heard a lot about Thailand, like Bali and all those places. You could live like a king there, dude. Yeah, someone was saying this, isn't it? Like the cost of living is very, very low.

Dude, 5K a month and you're top of the top out there, which is crazy because that gets you shit in LA. That's mental. Yeah. It's less than my rent. I know.

That's what I mean, dude. I mean, living here, we can live almost anywhere else and my rent i know that's what i mean dude i mean living here we can live almost anywhere else and be really set you know yeah well that's that's what linking back to to a lot of the employees we have in the philippines i mean they're living on what way pain in a very very comfortable life yeah it's interesting it is but it's hard to beat the us overall oh i agree i've never felt as much freedom as i feel here you know when i when i was in dubai for quite a long time i felt a little bit claustrophobic that's a bit of a weird way to describe living somewhere but yeah i just feel feel here you feel free obviously the country's so massive you can

go to i just can't wait to explore a different place i'm a big as you can probably tell with the cowboy boots people can't see that but i'm a really big country music fan so i can't wait to go to nashville do all of that as well um and just just explore really because as you say i i am starting to enjoy the travel more like the materialistic stuff with like the cars and watches etc it's good for business i really do enjoy it but i mean i've got a lot of cars it's it's not it's kind of it's losing its effect on me i'm not finding it as enjoyable as it was so now i'm really looking forward to definitely exploring the u.s more nashville's first on the list yeah i want to go there too i'm done with watches dude yeah yeah i mean i have five what's the point i agree you know what i mean yeah like you can only wear one

a day so i'm not i'm not and i'm not really a big big watch guy i don't even wear them no people don't even know i have watches it's pointless the risk to reward depends where you are but yeah i don't wear this i'm just wearing this for the podcast but if you're wearing every day you can get yourself into pretty yeah i have more anxiety wearing it than when I don't have it on. No, it's pointless as well. And I really, I really, the one thing I really hate, and you shouldn't have mentioned this,

I really, really hate it when people are like, oh, but wearing a watch gets you into certain rooms. That's such bollocks. Like really and truly, I've never got into a room because of a watch I've got on. And especially when they're talking about like, you know, entry-level Rolex Datejust

and shit like that. You know, oh, I bought this $10,000 watch because it's going to get me into a room with multi-million it's not it's simply not you know you get in based on you know the value that you that you can give and who you're who you're friends with that's kind of what it comes down to really yeah it won't get you in it might spark a combo when you're in there though maybe yeah to a certain point you know if you're wearing because of the higher end stuff but for these guys that are buying $10,000 watches, in my opinion, I don't think that really opens any doors.

Oh, yeah, it's not impressive. It's the opposite. If I saw someone wearing that, I probably wouldn't be overly... No, agreed. Yeah, I went to T-Mobile yesterday and the guy had a Rolex on. Exactly.

It's lost a lot of its effect. Because you can even finance watches and shit now, I think. Yeah. I saw an advert for that. They were down a bill. Really? So you can finance a Rolex now? Apparently, yeah. saw an advert for that they were down a bill really so you can finance a rolly apparently yeah that's like 100 000 bucks down and then 10 this is what i'm saying so i feel like the whole the whole watch industry yeah it's

i'm not really big into it i feel that um so you have a charity already at 22 when did you start that up uh last year wow what made you start that my business partner is Latvian, so he grew up in Riga. Have you ever been to Latvia? So Eastern European country, very, very cold. Poor country as well, kind of ex-Soviet bloc. So if you go to the capital, you'll see a lot of the concrete buildings left over from the Cold War. Now, as you said, it's a very, very poor country. And Marcus, because he's got quite a decent following as well, he's fairly well-known in Latvia because there's not a huge amount of people from Latvia

that have got money. So he kind of got in touch with this charity and we essentially joined forces with them. We funded some events for them. The next event's coming up in summer. The last one we did was early this year and we did one at Christmas as well. And yeah, essentially it's a charity for disabled children.

It's called Pallidase. Hopefully I'm saying that right if you're watching this, guys. It's a charity for disabled children it's called palidays hopefully i'm saying that right if you're watching this guys um it's uh it's a charity for disabled and disadvantaged children um so we we were there at christmas so i actually spent my uh my christmas christmas day and new year's with the charity in latvia um so we went in gave a talk to kind of the older the older members of the group talking about kind of business life giving them advice and whatnot you know transferable skills etc and then for their main christmas event which was on boxing day um i'll show you some videos of this if you want to put it up to you um rented out this massive massive it's basically the biggest concert hall in latvia so massive concert hall there was like father christmas presents um we

hired the paw patrol if you know what that is it's like a patrol it's like a uh like a children's tv show i guess if you've got it's like a like a's TV show. So they dress up as like these big dogs. Yeah, I've seen it. Yeah. So we hired them and then they came, did like a whole performance. There's music, arts and crafts and things like that. And yeah, it was a really, really rewarding experience.

I feel like it's important if you are making a certain amount of money and if you are doing the flexing especially, that you do also do, you know, you also give back as well. Because if you're just solely just flexing etc you know it really it can become quite sickening for people watching it when you know there's people living not not the best lifestyle so that's something that we were very really keen

to get into it just just give a bit back and you know it's really really yeah to do give and take right yeah for sure i mean all these people that you know kind of don't do anything charitable or whatever it's just it's bad karma then i think so too i'm big on energy yeah i think you got to give back on some level it doesn't have to be anything crazy no of course not no i mean we we really wanted to to really make an impact and we're really close with the charity now as well i it's funny because i um posted a picture the other day of me getting out the car in um beverly hills and i had the charity t-shirt on so yeah it's cool though they're really really great group of people um obviously I can't speak Latvian um so you know

Malchus was kind of translating for me the whole time but it was really really great and I feel like it's definitely something I want to do more of um especially with the industry that I'm in you know obviously the whole OnlyFans thing does get a really bad rep but if I can use some of the money for a really really good cause then you know then maybe that'll lessen people's perception. Yeah, that's interesting. Do you feel like you get a lot of heat from doing what you do? No, no, not really. Not anymore?

Not particularly. I mean, the only heat, because I post a lot on Twitter, the only heat I really get are from the people that are way too much into the whole red pill space. They come at you with the religious angle and stuff like that that which i really don't think is applicable in the scenario i i don't really give a shit what people think i'll be honest i mean i live a great lifestyle i've got great friends you know i make a lot of money i can't complain too much and you know if the caveat of that is that some people online who i'm never going to meet in my life and who

probably wouldn't look me in the eyes if they ever met me in person they're going to say mean things so be it but it shouldn't get the rep that it does in my opinion you know the the the least favorite podcast that I watch I'm not going to say them by name but it's the ones where you know you know they get like they get the only fans girls on and it's basically just two much older guys shouting a load of younger only fans girls and trying to make them look stupid. That, to me, is just the most disgusting thing ever. Why would you do that? What's the point? I've seen those, yeah.

I'll tell you something. If I'm 37, like a certain person is, if I'm 37 and I'm sat on a podcast shouting at 18 to 20-year-old OnlyFans girls, tell me to jump off something, because that is, it's ridiculous, and it shouldn't be a thing, in my opinion you know and then the real real issue and i'm going to say say this and what i said to you just prior i think the the over the top red pill movement it's one of the

most damaging things for young men to come out of the past few years wow i do it's going too far now don't get me wrong i'm all for being a strong man, you know, being an upstanding person, having morals, et cetera, et cetera. But it is going a step too far. I spoke to someone the other day, a guy I used to go to school with, works just a job at a shop, like what I used to do.

And he was saying, oh yeah, I'm only going to marry a virgin. What kind of a ridiculous ideology is that putting into people now? We're going to get to a point in probably 10 years time where we're going to get to a point in probably 10 years' time where we're going to have a very, very mal-informed and mal-adjusted group of men.

It will happen. I can see it happening now. You can see it by going on the internet, some of the opinions. Because what always happens with movement is that it starts off, it's great, okay? Be a strong man, be an upstanding person, have good morals, be respectful, you know, treat women well, etc. And then what always happens is it gets twisted

and certain individuals, mostly for views, but the people watching don't realise it's for views, start taking it a step further and a step further and a step further until it really does get to a point

where, you know, a lot of these Red Pill guys, they act like they hate women. It's bizarre. So, in my opinion, the Red Pill movement now has got to a point where it's bizarre so in my opinion the red pill movement now has got to a point where it's not a positive anymore and the ideologies because there's so many and this is another point for you there's so many red pill creators now that are selling something that they need the views the ideology is only going to get more and more and more extreme

until something happens that shouldn't happen until yeah until there's a situation where something gets really bad and it will happen in the next year count me on it that's how i felt about feminism and then i feel like red pill was started to counter that exactly and now it's just gotten exactly there's a middle ground precisely this is what i'm saying every there has to be a middle ground in society because there's usually 50 of people that have one view and 50 of people have another view you know if we're talking politics you know democrat republican i don't know the exact split but it's a fairly it's a fairly even split that always has to be a middle Republican, I don't know the exact split, but it's a fairly even split. There always has to be a middle ground.

Or, I don't know, you'll have a fucking civil war or something. But with the Redpull stuff, I'm a big believer in it. It's gone too far. It's a big movement, man. It is. It gets a lot of views. And there's a few people really propelling it, too. I agree.

But to continue propelling it, they're going to have to keep going more and more extreme. Because you can't propel something by doing the same thing. Right. Social media is a vicious game like that. Thank you. Even as a podcast host, I have to have on interesting guests nonstop.

Exactly. Or I'll lose relevance. Or you lose relevance. Same with OF management, I bet. Precisely. You know, they're going to have to keep taking the movement further and further. And it's going to get to a point

where it will go too far. And then I don't know. I don't know what'll happen but something something pretty bad will happen in my opinion most people's attention span are just so quick yeah that's what i'm saying you know you always you you're starting to see i'm not going to mention any kind of current situations or there's no point starting beef with people on the internet but i mean you're already seeing situations now where even the red pill guys are being exposed for not not being not not going by what they say whatsoever wow i didn't see that yet, but I could see it. I'll speak to you about it afterwards.

But it's, yeah. I try to be the same person on the show as I am in real life. Good, I respect that as well. I feel like to do a podcast, you do have to be kind of fairly, you can obviously have your own opinions and whatnot, but you do have to hear both sides of the story.

I try to stay neutral. I think it's good because then you segment a big audience if you're not. Precisely. But look, don't get me wrong. I'm all for the whole, be a strong man, you know, be an upstanding citizen, provide for your woman, whatever.

100%. I agree with that. Any man should agree with that. And I don't actually think there's a man in the world that will really go against that. It shouldn't be anyway. But when it starts moving further and further and further to the point where you've got podcasts

with 30, 40-year-old men shouting at 18-year-old girls, calling them whores, calling them stupid, is that really what society is coming to? That's really like a valid form of entertainment now that we're doing? You know, watching guys shout, it's bizarre. And that's probably affecting your dating market right now in LA. Girls are probably kind of traumatized. Yeah, you know what? It's an interesting one too you know I kind of in terms of dating and obviously doing what I do I'm fairly open about it as soon as I explain you know it's essentially just a

marketing agency it's it's fine then no one really has too much of an issue with it but yeah the the red pull stuff in my opinion has gone too far I think it'll continue doing so too because there's too much money in it you know all these guys that are getting really caught up in the ideology and they're watching like in sigma male tiktoks all day it's yeah you're gonna have a generation of guys i believe in a few years time who are really really maladjusted and that will be seen it's interesting because you're actually friends with some of these guys too of course so you're willing to kind of be friends with people that have opposing views of course i think that that's incredibly important you know you the world would be a very very boring place if everybody had the same opinion you know i i've got friends who have the same opinion to me

i've got friends who have different opinions i've got friends who don't give a fuck either way you know it doesn't really matter um you know and i i love having these friends because then you can do exactly what we're doing now on a day-to-day basis. I mean, how boring would the world be if everyone had the same opinion? And if your friendship group is made up of just the same people that have the same opinion. Which most are. Yeah. That's precisely the problem I'm talking about. You become very maladjusted. It's very important to have a kind of an equal view. Yeah. Do you struggle finding people your age that are? Yeah. Yeah. There's not too many. A lot of my friends are older to be fair i'm the same way yeah how old are you 27 27 cool yeah my friends are in their 30s 40s yeah literally i feel like it's it's not it's not a case of like

i don't like people my own age it's more a case of there's not as much relatability right kind of what i'm doing they they can't almost do and it sounds like such a horrible thing to say but you know if if it's is someone who's working at a shop still or you know still in universities a lot of my friends from school were in the uk are they going to be able to you know get a jet to vegas and you know fuck about for the weekend it's kind of it's almost like you know you the the they can't almost kind of do the lifestyle that you're doing yeah and don't know i'm still still friends with them i've never been horrible to them but that's just but that's just the way things go. You drift apart.

You find people that are on the similar wavelength of view that are doing similar things to you, not necessarily in terms of ideologies, but more in terms of the lifestyle, the living, et cetera, things that you can relate on, liking cars, et cetera. That's one thing I get heat for. I cycle friends pretty quick, which I don't know if that's good or bad,

but I don't see friends as a long-term thing for me, to to be honest yeah i mean it's it's tough it's tough nowadays to find a long-term friend i feel that my i've kind of got i've got one or two long time my business partner is my best mate then i've got a couple of guys who i'm very close with the only long-term friend i've really got is a guy called max but he lives in australia now with the way the world is it's it's difficult to kind of keep long-term friends i understand what you're saying and anyone that's like oh you know i've if you've still got the same friendship group that you've had since school or since college i'd be a little bit concerned i'd be a little bit concerned to be honest it's hard to grow exactly you've got to meet new people you've got to experience different things yeah absolutely

what's next for you man it's a big question um so yeah essentially we're scaling the agency up we've also got um got an e-commerce store which is doing very very well to hopefully get an exit on that so we sell um like semi-permanent tattoos okay so no no so tattoos that essentially last for two weeks so you can almost try a tattoo before you actually get it done got it um or you know maybe you just want to look cool for a festival or whatever you don't actually want to get a tattoo so you just like apply it water over it and boom. Still with that, we've got a software company. You'll like this.

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We're launching it soon. Now, the reason that that's going to be really good is because it's going to be cheaper than the docu sign a panda doc and it's also going to be considerably easier to use you know i don't know if you've ever been on docu sign or it's annoying it's it's just fucking i can't even i can't even use it there we go the show i tried to have my guest sign and there was an error message so i'm going to sign up for yours boom that's what we love to say this this is why you know it's business in general is just about spotting something that either isn't there or needs improvement and i mean in the document signing industry i mean massively docusign and pandadoc we use them on a day-to-day basis and the reason that we that we

basically it's all fully developed i'll show you the the figure for afterwards the reason that we developed our own is because like jesus christ the alternatives are pretty are pretty terrible that's cool i'll stay tuned for that yeah for sure. Where can people find you, man? At HarryPaulDavis, my full name on Instagram, at HarryPaulDavis on YouTube and Twitter as well. Twitter's not for the faint-hearted,

but as I said, the red pill lock. Yeah, you're raw on there. We go back and forth pretty hard. I'll make that the first link then for people to check out. Thanks for watching, guys, as always. See you next time.