Digital Social Hour - Jared Goetz On Meeting Michael Jordan, Psychedellics & Speaking With Mark Cuban | DSH #138

Episode Date: October 24, 2023

On todays episode of the Digital Social Hour, we sit down with dropshipping expert Jared Goetz to see the current state of the dropshipping space, what it was like going to a Tony Robbins event and what it was like going to Michael Jordan's House. BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: [e-mail] APPLY TO BE ON THE POD: https://forms.gle/qXvENTeurx7Xn8Ci9 SPONSORS: Opus Pro: https://www.opus.pro/?via=DSH HelloFresh: https://www.hellofresh.com/50dsh AG1: https://www.drinkAG1.com/DSH Hostage Tape: https://hostagetape.com/DSH LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Merchants Bank is a proud member FDIC. Mark Cuban called us because he was, do you remember he was going to buy the patent on the hub? Mark Cuban called us too. I got totally screwed by a supplier in China and my supplier in China, I was paying him for orders and he wasn't shipping the orders out. He was just giving fake tracking codes and keeping the money half a million dollar hit in like a week i gotta ask this man how do you meet michael jordan oh you know about that dude so golf and uh so we finished golfing and i get a call from my neighbor's wife and she's like yeah mj's uh in-laws just said if

you want to swing by his house he had a house at at Bears Club. Still didn't expect him to be there. We walk toward the backyard. I see MJ just, like, leaning over his outdoor kitchen, like, watching golf. He just came and shook my hand, like, what's up, Mike? And I was like, yeah, I know. I don't know. Welcome back to the Digital Social Hour. I'm your host, Sean Kelly. I'm here with my co-host, Wayne Lewis.

What up, what up? And our guest today, Jared Getz. What's going on, guys? How's it going, man? It's going amazing. It is hot as hell here in Vegas. But you're from Florida. I live in Texas now. Oh, my goodness. It's actually arguably just hell here in Vegas. But you're from Florida. I live in Texas now.

Oh, my goodness. It's actually arguably just as hot in Texas. Texas has got humidity. Can't escape it. Where in Texas? San Antonio. Oh, San Antonio. It is humid there.

San Antonio is kind of boring, though. Yeah, why did you choose? I like a boring life. Oh, you do? Yeah. I just had a newborn baby. Okay. I live on a golf course.

I'm kind of like an old man. So San Antonio is perfect for me. Okay. So you grew up quick. You're already an old man? Yeah. I lived before San Antonio. He wants to be an old man.

I was in Boca. Yeah. Living in a country club in Boca. And I was in a men's golf league. Oh, shit. And I was like by far the youngest guy. I was playing with like 50, 60, 70-year-olds. Yeah.

I'm really an old man. So a golf league. So you're like actually competing. Well, it was like just a fun men's league. I'm'm not i'm like a 10 handicap i'm not like competing i've never played so i don't even know what that means but it's my favorite thing to do it's something that you could do for the rest of your life yeah you could always get better at it you could always travel around the world for it you meet cool people and it's super fun once you get it in yeah i heard the networking golf is yeah for sure i was out of this world yeah yeah and once you hit your first good shot, it's so addicting.

Yeah. Yeah, anyone who knows golf can relate. Yeah. So at Topgolf, are you just hitting it over the entire net? I can get it over the net if I'm on the third floor. Wow. That's impressive, bro. Yeah, working out, you know.

Topgolf here in Vegas? Yeah. They're all the same. You can get it over the net? Yeah, I've done it before. Yeah, they're all the same. I didn't know people was even hitting it over the net. Bro, yeah, I've seen it. For real? It's nasty. How many people get... Cars get it over the net? Yeah, I've done it before. Yeah, they're all the same. I didn't know people were even hitting it over the net. Bro, yeah, I've seen it.

For real? It's nasty. How many people get cars get hit over there? Probably. So what did you do before semi-retiring, I guess? So my first business, I used to throw concerts for a living. When I was in college, actually before college, I used to rent homes. I was always a hustler.

I would rent homes in the hantans for like a month at a time and then each weekend i would re-rent them out to prom parties so we'd rent the home for like 20 grand for the month and it was kind of sketchy you know i was like i was 17 18 calling these homeowners like yeah we need it for our family for the summer and then we would just like rent it out to parties yeah but it led me to a good opportunity because we rented the home to a prom party that couldn't get a house and the girl that was kind of like leading it her brother was the biggest concert promoter kind of you know in the east coast so he's doing like lupe fiasco

steve aoki yeah and uh long story short he's like hey you helped out my sister we're doing a steve aoki and a lupe fiasco tour coming through your college i went to albany yeah he's like you guys can be 50 50 partners on it if you can come up with the money and um yeah so that was my first career we threw uh steve aoki show first night we made 50 grand then the second night we threw a fiasco we lost 50 grand so we broke even but it was really cool because i was like you know i grew up single mom only child my mom was always working like two or three jobs yeah so like making 50 grand in a night was like you know i knew people could do it but in my reality it was just totally out of control yeah so i got into the concert promoting business and it you know that's led me down a few other journeys you know yeah you know yeah yeah the app they they

reached out to me uh to sponsor my shows i so i created my own show it's the world's largest foam party it It's called Electric Flurry. You can still look it up on YouTube. Yeah. We've got these giant foam cannons and they would shoot foam 200 feet in the air. Oh, nice. All that stuff. But yeah, Yik Gak reached out to me to sponsor my shows. And then I was like, you guys should promote your app like this or that. And they were like, can you come on and do it for us? So then I got involved with Yik Gak and there's been a few other things in my career. Nice. So you were a party guy.

I was. A party other things in my career. Nice. So you were a party guy, a party. I was, a party guy in a way I was kinda, kinda. Yeah. That's dope. Yeah. Yik Yak went out of business though. Right? Yeah. So Yik Yak, when I came on board, we had a hundred thousand monthly active users. We got up to 10 million in four months. Super viral. And while I was at Yik Yak, a friend of mine went to China and he discovered a hoverboard before anyone ever seen hoverboards and I was known as like a good marketer you know I was just like he's like Jared we got a you gotta tell me what what do we do with this product and I was like I don't know it's

like send me one so he sent me one in the mail I started riding it around everywhere and everyone's like what that what the hell is that thing you know I was in the airports everyone's neck is breaking looking at the item and I'm like I just start selling these so i created my first shopify store well what was the name of your company glider glidr mine was uh skywalkers you oh you you did that too yeah no way that was my company bro so funny i think i remember you and we were huge yo that's funny dan dan dan fleshman said the same thing he looked and he was like yo you guys were you crushed him with the hoverboards bro dude dan did it too right dan was our competitor

saw three which one did he have you wills okay that was dan fleshman yeah okay we were with like all the so i got linked up with like nash grier and hayes grier and all these like younger influencers yeah yeah like tens of millions of followers so we were in that like younger influencer yeah world and it got to a point where mark cuban called us because he was do you remember he was going to buy the patent on the hoverboard mark cuban called us too that's crazy yeah i talked to people and they're like mark cuban doesn't do calls with anyone i'm like he he hit us up to uh our first we first discovered the hoverboard uh at ces okay that was because obviously we're in vegas and that's when our eyes like yo we got something yeah dude so i yeah everyone's looking at this thing so i didn't know how to sell online yeah so i just started printing

out business cards and every time someone asked me about it i just give them a card next thing you know i'm selling like two or three hoverboards a week making a couple thousand dollars so i left my job sold my shares in yik yak i was the only employee out of 80 of us to actually sell the shares wow you were smart i was lucky everyone else got nothing so yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah for sure yeah and then i ended up going to china to the canton fair yeah oh you went to canton yeah canton fair is the top is the top when it comes to tech. I've heard about it. Wait, but you don't speak Mandarin, so what was that like?

No, but some people actually understand you. Believe it or not. When you stand out like a sore thumb there. Easily. I went to some more rural areas in China too. It's really funny because everyone's staring at you.

Literally. I just told everyone I'm a professional baseball player. So I was taking pictures with everyone. That's funny. And, yeah, I discovered the next product out in the Canton Fair. You got to see those inflatable loungers. You wave through the air and they fill up. They start in, like, a little bag.

They look like a little banana. No. You're very popular. I haven't seen those. I haven't seen those. Inflatable lounger. In the pool, you're saying? No, camping with it right and you just like wave it through the air and it fills up oh most people listening probably have seen them they were very

viral yeah and yeah i started importing those that was my next product and then um you know i was selling a retail i was on a you know major retailer we had trade shows on amazon shopify across the board and then i discovered drop shipping i was actually at a trade show in dallas we were at outdoor retailer and we were talking to people for three days straight you know just i was tired it was i had a flight the next morning at 7 a.m and it was midnight and i was about to go to bed and i got an email this was back in like 2015 and the email was from a marketer it said like how to sell products without ever seeing or touching them and i was like man I should really go to sleep

but then let me just open it and I watched a webinar and I learned that you can go find suppliers and Aliexpress and put your put the products in your Shopify store run ads to it and I was so excited because I was good at marketing I got to the airport next morning like 4 a.m. and just built the store and launched it and that store grew from zero to two million in 60 days wow that was my entry into drop shipping 60 days zero to two million in 60 days geez just running facebook ads yeah just running facebook ads i um i so i was i was living in los angeles at the time and i was moving back to florida because i was like i was doing all right with the inflatable loungers and stuff but it was was like, you know, my, my now wife, then girlfriend, she was working, we were splitting rent. It was like,

well, let's just go to Florida, live a little bit easier. And a friend of mine, a mentor, Brett Lockett, he was an ex NFL player. He invited me to go to a Tony Robbins event with him. And I was like, I don't know about that, but sure, I'll go. And I learned a lot about personal development and energy. And we did we did these like we did this one visualization exercise where you imagine yourself as someone else who like really loves and cares about you and you kind of like remove yourself from the equation and you're like walking up to your own future life and you're admiring the house and the cars and all this stuff and long story short you walk upstairs and you look in the mirror and it's you the whole time and it's like

it was like I had this crazy moment and the day after the event i had to drive to florida so i had a five-day drive and i get on the drive and i'm you know music playing i hired someone to do the customer support and the ads and all these ideas just started coming to me like just seemingly out of nowhere and i would just make a call hey let's try doubling this ad set or let's just try this or that and the store scaled from like a thousand dollars a day to fifty thousand dollars a day in five days wow and it's just like that that's when drop shipping started changing my life wow yeah i never got into the um the drop shipping this merchants has always been like a thing to me i i've always they you know try to stay in their good graces because they hate drop shippers yeah

it's challenging for sure yeah there's lots of challenges that come with it but there's you know there's pros and cons to it it's like the amount of overhead you need is very very you can always test additional products if you have a brand you can try 50 other products in your nation limitless limitless uh access to what they have access to instantly without even paying and you don't have to pay for inventory or anything like that no you have to pay for a warehouse yeah you can mainly just focus is focus on the utility of the product and the marketing yeah exactly you run ads to 50 products whatever is the lowest cost per acquisition you scale and yeah that business model definitely changed my life until I got I got

totally screwed by a supplier in China the store was you know continuing to do 50 60 whatever K a day and I was traveling I was in I was in Thailand just like enjoying life it was the first time I really had like good money and one of my support agents was like hey Jared we found you know hundred tracking numbers that aren't working and I'm like you were doing 2,000 orders a day like figured out let me know next day Jared we found 100 tracking numbers that aren't working. And I'm like, yeah, we're doing 2,000 orders a day, figure it out, let me know. Next day, Jared found about 200 tracking numbers that aren't working.

Whatever, figure it out. And then I had to fly back from Thailand to the US, so I had a 24-hour travel day. When I got back, they found 1,000 tracking numbers that weren't working. And then we spent a week trying to figure out what was going on, and my supplier in China, I was paying him for orders and he wasn't shipping the orders out. He was just giving me fake tracking codes and keeping the money.

And I found 7000 tracking numbers from customers that we sent to them. So it was like half a million dollar hit in like a week. So how did it go? It was horrible. It was horrible. You lost the merchant. Oh, I mean, there was so many things that went wrong from it. But it inspired me to build Zendrop.

So even though it was a really low point, and I did recover from it. I kept dropshipping. I figured it out. But it was really stressful for a few years. So what is Zendrop? Zendrop is a marketplace for dropshippers. So basically, we have over a million products on our catalog. We have two facilities in China. We have about 50 suppliers in the U S and anyone that wants to sell online,

they go on Zen drop. Um, you could upload whatever image you want and we'll print it out and put it in all your packages for you. So it's got branding in it. When it gets to your customer, we got education, um, you know, trending product section. So you see what's selling and, uh, we've had to do their own marketing themselves and stuff. Right. Yeah, exactly. We're just like a reliable supplier. We could typically beat prices. No fake tracking numbers.

So let me ask you a question. What, what about is it personalized? Can they use their own domain for their stuff? Oh yeah. They build their own Shopify store. We're an app. We have over a million Shopify merchants that have signed up and connected their store to. Sorop. Okay. So can you still use, what is that? Stripe? Yeah.

Stripe will still take it? Yeah. So basically when you have a Shopify store, you go on Zendrop, you pick what you want to sell, you import it to your store. You sell it. You collect the money and everything. But when you make the sale, we charge you the wholesale price and we ship it out to your customer oh yeah okay yeah so it's way more efficient yeah it's extremely efficient it's reliable we can scale what's the shipping times we our fastest shipping times four to nine days from china to the us that's the fastest that's from china that's

fast from china yeah and we're always like we we work with over 100 shipping lines and we got about 480 people in china yeah that are walking and shipping things and we ship around the world. So, you know, a brand would typically import their product to the U S, put it in a warehouse. They'd have to buy 60 days worth of inventory. And then if somebody internationally orders the product, the shipping cost is super expensive. Like 34 or $40. Yeah. For us you can actually build,

like we do something called drop branding for our big clients where you can customize your stuff. You buy seven days worth of inventory keep it in our warehouse in China every time you make a sale we replenish it from the factory so you never run out of inventory well we can ship it all around the world and shipping shipping is super cheap and it's actually fast to a lot of other countries you guys show the ROI on items so people could sell the product for whatever they want but typically people mark market up like three to four times. Nice.

No, but do they actually know what, um, like, so different products are trending at different times, right? It's all about trends, you know?

Yeah. So with you guys, are you, is that what your products are based on? What's currently chilling? We have it in what's selling in the market. We pretty much have everything you can imagine on the platform. And if don't have the product we source it within 24 hours you can put an aliexpress link and we'll have it on there wow but we have we do have a trending product section

which is always being updated based on all the you know we have millions of data points but we don't share our biggest clients winning products in that section so it's like there's a balance of integrity and like wanting to help other people do you have an ai picking the trending products or is it we have we have um we have a process for it you know there's a lot of data to sort through and yeah we try to do it efficiently and do you offer a print on demand too yeah recently we just had a print on the platform yeah we have um we're adding to the catalog right now direct to garment yeah okay that's sick we got a, actually an investor of ours. We raised a small friends and family around a few years ago.

And one of our investors has a facility in Houston where he's got like, like seven or $8 million worth of printing equipment and we integrate it with his backend so we can, people can do print on demand through us now too. Nice. That's sick. I got to ask this man. How'd you meet Michael Jordan? Oh, you know about that?

Dude. So golf, this is why yeah so i was living in boca in you know with all the older people and my neighbor was uh he was about 70 years old um good friend of mine that we became really close and uh i just started golfing and he invited me to go play at the bears club, which is a very exclusive course in Jupiter, Florida. And of course, I went, I played. He was a criminal attorney, so he represented MJ's mother-in-law. So I can't get into all the details, but he knew them through that originally. They became friends. His wife is an artist, and she painted a picture of MJ's deceased father, and it really touched him. So they became really close friends nice and uh so we finished golfing and I get a call from my neighbor's wife and she's

like yeah MJ's uh in-laws just said if you want to swing by his house he had a house in bears club you can go over there and check it out so in my head I'm like yeah we're gonna go look at MJ's house we pull up two guys come out like gentlemen follow us I'm walking into Michael Jordan's house still didn't expect him to be there we walk toward the backyard i see mj let's like lean it over his outdoor kitchen like watching golf we walk outside you know i meet mj it's it's him ahmad rashad uh his in-laws and his two daughters me and my neighbor and he's like yo i got this new tequila line coming out it's now it's out But before it was like in plastic bottles.

You want to try these different tequilas. So I'm like drinking tequila. He opens a big humidor. We're smoking Cuban cigars. And then my neighbor's like, yo, Mike, why don't we take Jared to your trophy room? So I'm like walking behind Michael Jordan through his house. We walk into the trophy room. I look up.

This floor of the Chicago Bulls Stadium is like on the ceiling. And I'm just like standing in there like how the hell did i end up here today i had no idea and we hung out for like three hours you stay for dinner um and we just didn't want to like intrude yeah so we must have made a good impression for him to invite you to dinner we were just regular guys we're just chilling like talking just like hanging out you weren't fanboy. That's probably why he liked you guys. Yeah It was kind of hard not to What's up Michael Jordan, oh he came he's like he came and shook my hand like what's up Mike

Like had these broken, you know his fingers were all like bent Yeah, you chance and I was like, you know I'm with like one of the most famous people in the whole world, like a billionaire, like amazing. And I was like, I just got to enjoy this day. It's crazy.

Yeah, everyone's like, do you get a picture? I'm like, I don't know. I wouldn't have asked. Because that automatically puts you... Well, when you're at his house, the pictures, that's not enough.

Pictures are that. When you get invited to the crib, you like the homie. So you got to just treat him like that. So I got invited to join he opened a new golf course and i got invited to join his course but it was like right when i was moving to texas and i didn't do it ah so you turned down mj's invite bro but maybe maybe we'll in the future we are considering going back to florida nice yeah so after you made your millions you sort of had a weird moment in your life where you didn't feel fulfilled right you bought everything you wanted to walk me through where you were at then

yeah so oh i didn't finish the last part of the story so you know i i uh we did that visualization exercise we were admiring the house the cars whatever 60 days later i owned the car that was in my visualization and it was a great lamborghini Which one? It was a, it was my first Lamborghini Gallardo. But it was crazy. Cause I, I'm physically manifested this car into the real world. Wow. And how did you do that? So we did this exercise and we were basically visualizing our future life, but it was through the lens of someone who loves and cares about you.

So I like, I was imagining myself as my aunt walking up to my future life and looking at the cars. I've never heard of that one before. It was something they do at these Tony Robbins events. And it was really cool because I had a vision and I put really strong emotion behind it. And then literally 60 days later, I had this car. And it all happened in a way.

So I'll get to your point. It all happened in a way that was totally, I could never have expected these series of events to happen this way. You know, most people, they try to create in a linear fashion. They say, you know, first I need to do this and then this can happen and then I can go do that and then this person will be here and then I can do this and that. And we, as you guys know, we live in a universe of unlimited possibilities. So things never happen the way you expect them to. But most people attach themselves to the outcome. And when things don't happen the way they want them to, they get stressed, they get worried, they get anxiety. And I'm a firm believer in the way you feel manifests the world outside. So like, you know, if you could feel good

and let go of the outcome, things will happen. So I learned that through that experience when that car came into my life. And, you know, I made the money, I bought the car, I was traveling. And, uh, when I was in Thailand traveling, I was actually like doing a tour of like Buddhist temples. And, um, I was on like a tour boat with like a few other people. And there was this French couple and this, you know, I was, I was talking to them and we were hanging out. And when we we were leaving the wife was like

i hope you find what you're looking for and i was like what the hell do you mean by that what am i looking for i was like what am i looking like and it just started like you know why am i doing all this traveling why am i you know having this these exquisite experiences am i like internally joyful am i like i still have stresses i still don't feel amazing like there's got to be more so i started going down the rabbit hole meditation am i like internally joyful am i like i still have stresses i still don't feel amazing like there's got to be more so i started going down the rabbit hole meditation i've done some you know i've done three plant medicine journeys now and you know i just had a kid seven weeks ago and um you know just learn that life is not just about attaining material possessions you know it's nice

to obviously yeah but most people don't get a chance to learn that lesson. Most people are like, yeah, once I get those material possessions, maybe I'll learn that lesson, but they don't get like 95% of people never get there. Right. So after I learned that I started going, you know, I've been to Joe Dispenza meditation retreats and you know, I've spent thousands of hours meditating on long walks and, you know, being extremely disciplined and building confidence. And I'm learning that you have to substitute short-term pleasure for long-term joy. You got to make those decisions that aren't always easy to make, but they make you feel good about yourself. You know, you, you, you have the internal conflict. Should I work out or should I not? You know, most people

have, don't have much power, right? They have their true self and they have their mind. Most people's minds have more power over them than their true self and their being. And you know, when you win those battles, you're, or when you lose those battles, you're giving power to your mind. It gets harder and harder to win them. And then there's your subconscious, which is judging everything you do. So when you're losing these battles, your subconscious is like, Hey, we can't even do these things. Like what makes us think we can go do these big business ventures or, and you don't feel good. But when you have discipline and you win those battles every time,

then you start to root for yourself. You start to have this energy that just feels good and you feel okay. And I've just been really deep on that path for the last maybe three or four years. Wow. And it's been really fruitful. That's insane. So what have you learned about the universe through meditation? Have you achieved astral projection yet? I've had a few pretty interesting experiences for sure. Yeah. I mean, the thing is, if you're going into a

meditation and you're looking to have a mystical experience, you're not going to get it right. The whole thing about meditation and even just life in general, it's more about letting go of things than it is trying to get things. So when can let go of things when you can have an empty mind and you can have a pure vessel your energy flows in ways that give you experiences but if you're looking for that experience you're actually blocking your energy from flowing because you're attaching yourself to the outcome of i need this experience i need this experience and what you get from that is more of needing the experience not getting the experience experience. So most meditations, you don't get a mystical experience. I've had a few that have been insane.

Plant medicine, though, has been something that's totally unlocked different levels for me. Really? When you say plant medicine, what are we talking? So I go to a place. So do you guys know Ben Greenfield? No, I haven't heard of him. He's got a big podcast. I haven't heard of him. Anyway, I booked've heard of him. He's got a big podcast. Anyway, I booked a consultation call with him because he has a big podcast.

I was starting a podcast. I wanted to pick his brain. The call was in like a month. I was listening to an episode and somebody asked him a question. They're like, what's the most profound thing you've ever done? And he's like, well, aside from this one thing I can't talk about here, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So I'm like, I get on the call with him. I go, what was that thing that you couldn't talk about?

And he was like, there's this plant medicine that essentially makes your brain like 20,000 times more lucid than it usually is. And you have a voice recorder strapped to your chest and you're laying down and you just speak the truth for six hours and you transcribe it all. And you have total clarity on your life and they call it clarionics, but you can't find it online. It's like a, you know, very, truth unknowingly you're so the way to describe it is like you're lying there and your mind and your ego is kind of like offline and you feel like you get electrocuted with like a trillion volts of love so you're just like the best version of yourself in this moment and anything you call

they call it clarigenics but you're not gonna be able to find it online it's like uh you have to be you have to make an introduction it's like 40 grand to go do it it's like uh you know a lot of ceos like leaders major billionaires people like that have been there i've met some really cool people there so oh you actually did it i've done it three times i do it once per quarter now wow yeah and it wow no i want to do it like this is interesting dude it is it made me realize like i've always it's 40k every time it's 40k for a four session package oh okay it's worth it though i mean oh it's so my first time doing it i always had like this conflict like i knew i wanted to have kids eventually right eventually i want to do this eventually i want to do this but But I always had this conflict.

And like when I was in the medicine, I'm like, have kids now, like what are you waiting for? Like, you know, you know what life's all about. And I just had this realization and like got right to work. And like, it just gives you total clarity on things. It's not like you're on the limitless pill and you're like, oh, I need to do all these crazy things. It actually reinforces the lessons

that are deep inside of you, but at a level that you've never experienced before. So like you realize like life is all about love, but it's like, it's not just like, oh yeah, life's all about, you know, you feel it in your core and it's like a lesson that you can't explain. Then you're going through your recording

and you're transcribing it, so you're typing it all out, like 20 pages or so. And you work with a coach over the course of the next few months until your next session. And you pull out all the nuggets about life that you kind of spoke into the truth wow yeah and it's been i mean it's just how long is each session six or six hours well but it feels like 10 minutes but you're not tripping though right it's not a psychedelic you're totally lucid like you are you're literally like a like you you feel one with god wow i was never a religious person i'm jewish technically but i never grew up with religion

i didn't really know the concept of god i always thought yeah like some figure in the sky whatever when you're in the medicine you're literally one with god you are you're just you understand it and the thing is when you talk about these things language is is language was created to separate but to to connect people that are separated so inherently language separates people so there's only so much you can communicate through words right experience is thousands of times more potent than words so i could sit here and describe it to you for hours and you might get a little bit of it but when when you, like the first time I went, this guy was like, you'll know, like when you know, you'll know.

And I, the next day I saw him and I was like, I know. Yeah. That's been really cool for me. Wow. That's nuts. Would you, would you try that? I would, I'm just scared. I'm not, I'm, let me just take away the scare.

I'm not scared. It's just, it's an experience. I tried microdose. Well, it was for the first time a couple months ago. And I was like, yo, this is sick. He said nice. But I keep hearing, like, different medicines that are out there. And they just bring more and more and more.

And as you continuously meet with people who are on certain levels, like, it's a little bit more where they're at. Like, no, I've tried this. It's a little bit more where they're at like no i've tried this it's a little bit more than that you know what i'm saying this is i would say this is not more than like shrooms for example this is not more intense no it's a very easy experience so the second time i went to do it okay so wait wait wait before you started what was the other uh guest he was speaking about something similar right but his was you go to this Glen yeah what was that wasn't I did I lost higher than that right yeah I forget what it was I know you're talking about you lived all your memories okay something way different from this thing I know which I forget the name of the same is real super discreet like you gotta you know gotta know someone yeah you got to know

someone yeah anyway I the second time I went to do it i had some anxiety because i couldn't remember what the first one was like i remember it was amazing but like i was getting up to and i'm like and i i don't like just like letting control like letting go of control so i was like super anxious and super anxious i'm like you know i'm scared to do i'm gonna do it but i'm scared to do it and then right when it started i literally was like okay i'm never gonna be scared to do this again because it's the most beautiful experience I've ever had. Wow. So is there someone in there with you or just you?

Yeah, there's two people in there with you. And they're asking you questions or you're just firing? You go in with intention. Like you could go in with intentions. If there's certain parts of your life you want to figure out, you can like, you know, you'll remember. You're not like, you know, like you are in outer space, but you can remember things kind of. But you're lying down and you have an eye mask on and you have music on yeah and you have a voice recorder on and you're just speaking you're just like you feel so good that you never

want it to end wow it's crazy you're laying there for six hours six hours yeah but it feels like 10 minutes yeah well the first time i was done i literally felt like i was reborn into the world like a fresh start like i just shed all my my traumas from the past like i healed myself i literally felt like i was a fresh newly born person wow there's doctors on staff there's you know there's two people that are there with you the whole time if you need water like three four hours in you know they'll bring you what changed about you after the first time what would you say like the outlook the energy yeah the main love more i always knew that life is more about or it's less about what you need to do and more about who you need to be but after the first experience like i just really realized that life is all about the present moment feeling love understanding that how

you feel manifests the world around you at a really deep level I understood this so you know I've started implementing habits since then where I try to get back to that feeling right and I do this thing called the perfect walk I'm actually writing about it right now I'm writing a book about it I have like a 30 page PDF that I've been sharing with friends if you guys are interested I'll share with you but it's a it's like a 30 to 45 minute walk I do in the mornings and I use the same music from the plant medicine because it like kind of brings me back. And the first five to 10 minutes, you're just opening your heart. You know, you're focused right here.

You're thinking about something you love and you're just kind of first thing in the morning. Right. Before you think about all your problems, before you get into the same routine, focus on your heart. Second part is you feel your power, your strength. You know, you feel like you could do anything. You know, the music gets more intense. the third part is a moment of just being totally present letting go noticing the things around you any thoughts that come up you just let them go the fourth part is you're walking you're feeling connected to god or the universe or source or whatever it is you believe in and then the last part is a celebration where you're like i just

did this for myself i'm gonna crush it right here you feel like I get goosebumps when I do it. Like, I know that my energies are being activated. Wow. And like that, that walk sets me for the day. And it reminds me like, this is what life is about. And then at that point, I know I did the work for the day. So I let go. I'm like, okay, however things happen, they're going to happen.

And I've done the work that i need to do to manifest the life of what that i deserve well that i you know so this is at the end of the day or the beginning this is the beginning of the day okay but then throughout the day you know oftentimes we feel anxious yeah and we don't really know why because we have so many things going on in life so distractions so many so much stimuli that oftentimes we don't know right what's causing us to feel this like a little maybe it's not crippling anxiety but it's a little ambient anxiety in the background i feel whatever yeah so i use that as an opportunity to just bring my awareness back to the moment realize like right now everything's perfect right and when i sit in that space for a few minutes like typically the

thing that was causing me anxiety like bubbles up it like it like dislodges and it's like oh i just need to like email that guy or something that comes up it literally just take care of it yeah but if you're in the cycle the whole day and you're just going and going and going and going going there's more things that build on it and build on it and most people never let that stuff go and that eventually will create diseases your confidence will get low your energy is low so really since the plant medicine i've realized this stuff very deeply and implemented these practices in my life to be able to live this way regularly nice you recently took a health test to determine your biological age right yeah and you got 21 19 19 yeah but you're actually 34 right 32 32 33 so how are you able to take 11 years off your life? That's a great question.

So I do a lot of- That damn plant. Go get the plant. It could be the plant. I do a lot of stuff. Like I have a sauna and a cold plunge at my house. I do that every day. I have a biocharger.

Have you guys ever seen that before? What's biocharging? Oh, biocharger's really cool. It looks like a Tesla coil. And it's got like, you sit next to it. And if you hold the light bulb in your hand, the light bulb lights up. So it's sending electricity through your body and it uses different frequencies. So for example,

have you ever seen an opera singer like sing in a glass and shatter the glass? Cause the glass has a certain resonance and that frequency destroys the glass. So this machine has like 1100 different settings. If you have a virus or you're're sick or you know you want to change your brain wave patterns whatever it is it sends electricity into you in different frequencies and there's like a bunch of things you can do with it there's always something what is this it's called a biocharger dude i would get that how much for those it's like 15 grand it's a it's a biocharger yeah okay yeah so you know i I do that regularly I'm doing peptides now

nice for the last maybe six months or so I see a longevity doctor live health and we do blood work every every quarter yeah a lot of blood work you know they do I have a supplement like Google sheet that I just share yeah you send me that yeah yeah if anyone wants it they just uh sent comment subs on that photo and it'll just auto send it to you sick so yeah i do all that so i don't know what which thing gets the most output for the least amount of work yeah so like maybe it's the biocharger maybe it's the sonic cold plunge maybe it's the plant medicine but maybe it's this being less stressed yeah you know i eat really healthy too yeah for the most part i'm like always doing 75

hard yeah because if i'm not doing it, I'm always losing the battles. I feel like I'm not, so I'm just always doing it. You're not as extreme as Brian Johnson, but your results are as good as his. I'm not as rich as Brian Johnson. I mean, bro, he's 19 years old technically.

He did a test on his age. They do an epigenetic test where they test the length of your telomeres, which has to do with your mitochondria. And, yeah, it tells you how old you are. So if they gave you the option, like, since you're biologically 19, do you want to be 19? What would you say?

Yeah. You could tell people he's 19 technically. He is technically. Right. Man, what's next for you? Well, you know, I am getting more and more passionate about these kind of conversations, doing a bunch of podcasts. It's crazy because he came over here for drop shipping, and we literally, like, touched

barely on that. We're talking about more of a mental aspect, which is, I feel like that's needed more in business than anything. When people get this stuff, they make money in business. Honestly, what's next for me is I want to figure out how to help be a guiding light for that generation after like the younger 18 to 20 something year olds that are addicted to tick tock. And they're like, you know, they're consistently distracted.

They're ruining their brains by by feeding themselves dopamine through all these different places. And they don't know anything about being centered they don't know anything about you know building their energy they don't know anything about this stuff because most people that talk about what we're talking about they're not very relatable people right I kind of like woo-woo out there people that you're like I don't know about that guy I want to be a relatable person and show you know the reason that I've been able to build Zen drop for example the reason that I've been able to build Zendrop, for example, and the reason why I've been able to achieve financial success

is not because I'm smart. It's not because I'm the hardest worker. It's because I spend a lot of time working on myself, a lot of time reflecting, a lot of time planning, not so much time working, actually. It's more planning and strategizing and being in solitude on these walks and these meditations. And that transmutes into creating the life of how you feel.

And this is what I want to be talking about more often. That's really cool because a lot of people just grind and you need some time to just think. I used to do that. Well, they just grind, but I think he's getting into the science aspect of it when you're dealing with it. Because health is wealth. keeps getting into like the science aspect of it when you're dealing with because health as well and yeah you know you can make a million dollars today but like you want to keep making that and staying young and youthful and you know efficient and i feel like you're you're more so obviously you made the money but now it's like okay cool i need to yeah a certain way from a health standpoint

too from a yeah from a health standpoint for sure and if you want to go like one layer deeper you know our feelings how we feel emotionally is just a vibration. Our thoughts are just vibrations. And you bring the thoughts into you that match how you feel. So if you feel stressed, anxious, you feel lack, you feel like you can't get there. You're going to get the thoughts that are going to bring you that. But if you can feel abundance, you feel like you already have it, you feel strong, you feel confident, you're going to get the thoughts that are going to bring you that. But if you can feel abundance, you feel like you already have it, you feel strong, you feel confident, you're going to get the thoughts that are going to lead you there. So it's like, stop looking out there for what you need to do. Look in here for you who you need to be. And then the things you need to do will naturally guide you there in a way that you

couldn't have expected. And you let go of the outcome and things will happen. You know, you'll get to a place that's beyond what you could have expected in a way that you couldn't have expected. Right. Absolutely. Love that that where can people find you instagram uh jared gets um you can check out zendrop and uh yeah love it all right guys thanks for watching see you next time peace