Digital Social Hour - Jeremiah the Bull Evans Believes EGO and Anger are GOOD For You | Digital Social Hour #98

Episode Date: September 8, 2023

On today's episode of The Digital Social Hour, we sat down with Jeremiah the Bull Evans and talks about ego, the alter ego and why being angry is a good thing for you. BUSINESS INQUIRIES: [e-mail] APPLY TO BE ON THE POD: https://forms.gle/qXvENTeurx7Xn8Ci9 SPONSORS: HelloFresh: https://www.hellofresh.com/50dsh AG1: https://www.drinkAG1.com/DSH Hostage Tape: https://hostagetape.com/DSH --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/digitalsocialhour/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

I do not believe depression is real. I believe that is one of the greatest pandemics of this world, is to spread this lie of depression. If you feel depressed, good. It's called pain. It's a part of this world, right? And let's just be honest, depression is a first world problem. You do not see depression in third world, second world countries.

Probably, you know why? Because our lives ain't that tough. All right. Welcome back to the Digital Social Hour. I'm your host, Sean Kelly. Here with my co-hosts, Wayne Lewis. What up, what up? And our guest today, Jeremiah Evans.

What's up, guys? Man, the Dior's. Jeremiah's in the building. Dior Ones. Yes. Big stepping. Naturally. How much you pay for them? I got these for $15,000.

$15,000. $15,000. $15,000. Yeah, $15,000. That's the most I've seen on a shoe someone spend. Really? Yeah. You've seen more?

Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. On what? Yeah, the Marty McFly's, they go for what? Oh. $90,000? Oh, I mean, ****. seen on a shoe someone spend really yeah you've seen more oh yeah yeah yeah yeah the marty mcfly's they go for what oh 90 000 i mean i mean you could talk about like did it like i mean you could talk about like the 1985s there's a lot of jordan's ones yeah two millions like that i mean dude like yeah these are actually not that expensive compared to some of these shoes like the real ones are actually rare but how many of those were made you think um i don't think it's

what a thousand pairs something yours is numbered right those are numbered yeah i mean i can take it off there's a number here on the inside so but it's it's a pretty big amount these these are nice these are rare but there's some shoes man that they're so rare like they're they're they're it's easy to sell shoes for like 30 40 000 depends on yeah it depends on the collection how many shoes do you have? Too many. You guys are both sneaker heads. Yeah, yeah. I fuck with shoes. You know what's funny?

I wasn't that big of a sneaker head before, but it's kind of a marquee of entrepreneurs. Back in 1990s, it was like, how good your suit looked. Now it's what sneakers are you wearing? Like if you're an entrepreneur, you gotta show up in top tier sneakers in order for people to be like, all right. Sneakers and watch? Yeah, sneakers and watch. Car. I've noticed that. I've got to show up in top tier sneakers in order for people to be like, all right. Sneakers and watch?

Yeah, sneakers and watch. Car. I've noticed that. I've had to step up my game a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You've got to appearance is key. Like we've talked to a guy before, yeah, appearance. So you mentioned suits.

What were you doing before sneakers? Oh, man, I couldn't afford before. When I got into sneakers, man, I couldn't afford it. Cleats, I guess. I don't know. I didn't really have much of a collection until about four years ago when business started doing good. So, yeah. But, I mean, I love watches, you know, and cars.

It's addicting. It's bad. You're pretty materialistic. Yeah. Can't add the ego into the gift. He goes, you need to repent. You're materialistic. That's right.

No, I like hearing this point of view because no guest has has been open like this yeah yeah really yeah everyone says they're not honestly well i mean i think so i think when you say materialistic there's the ego there but i think if you like material things you're just human right we all john you have a nice house are you materialistic? With certain things. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Right? Okay.

Listen, let me say something on this, though. Especially for wealthy people, right? We speak in symbols, okay? We don't speak like everybody else. We speak through symbols, okay? Like, if I have a yacht, that's a symbol. It's a status symbol, right? We speak through symbols because... Oh, sorry.

We good? Okay, I didn't know if you were going to stop me. Back. I didn't know if you were going to stop me. No, you're good. Okay. No, we speak through symbols. And the reason we speak through symbols is because no one else can understand, right?

I have a yacht or I have a jet and the size of my yacht the size of my jet what does it symbolize what does it represent it represents the amount of risk the amount of effort what it took to become Who I am to achieve that level right so when we talk about wearing a Rolex and all these dudes out there who entrepreneurs say like like oh you know like wearing a Rolex like that it doesn't show who you really are you know like that's just that's just a flash of the ego it's like you know what yeah it is because guess what i'm gonna be completely honest here your ego is actually your power people talk about ego like it's evil those are the people who aren't doing well i feel like okay

so with that it is it is it is a power right yeah but i think you need to know how when to apply it in what situation i don't think you should walk around with the ego because then you become disliked well okay you got to have a balance oh you're going to be disliked for sure but if you walk around trying to be liked you ain't going nowhere well not trying to be liked but trying to just not be so egotistical when it comes to your approach and when you're communicating with people these i feel like you have to have about i think there's a time to have ego on and then there's time to have your shield off well let's let's define ego right because like this is this is like a high level idea of thinking of talking about this and i know a lot of people can get

really pissed off right right like like you're supposed to have an ego who the hell says that no one says it out loud but it's the truth it's the it's it's the unspoken rule you're supposed to of the elite i mean let's let's just go for example we're talking sports michael jordan does he have an ego absolutely yeah he has an ego right like tom brady tom and i know he comes across as like you don't know tom brady no he has an ego man there's a story of uh there's a story of a janitor who walked in and saw tom brady at 4 a.m in the gym with his headphones on looking at himself in the mirror saying i'm the baddest motherfucker on the planet he was saying that to himself in the mirror okay right and this i like that right in the morning he's in the gym

yeah or let's talk about or we can just go down the line conor mcgregor ego ego huge ego right well let's let's let honestly someone who's who embodies this more than anybody muhammad ali he said i am the greatest he's originated he he says i am the greatest and he said i told myself that before i knew i was right anyone who has ascended to any level of power in this world has an ego yeah but you have to know when to have it and when not you always have it but but but false ego has to be expressed by tearing others down true ego is when i rise other others rise with me think about this what does ego mean like the word itself it's latin it means i right ego sum in latin means i am right so the power of I and we talk

about confidence as entrepreneurs talk about that yeah if you don't have this supreme belief in yourself and that you will bet on you over anybody else you are not going to win and then if you have this idea that I'm going to walk around hoping that other people like me like me again you're not going to win right the key to being a winner is that you have this supreme belief in i in me right in who i am and who i can become but that's the true ego the true ego is living up to your higher self right no absolutely so i actually i'm i'm for the ego but i'm also i know how to control it. Yes. That's what I'm saying.

It's a control thing. Some people lose control and then they fall off. There you go. And then they spiral. So then now you don't even like them. Right. Even you got an ego. It's like, dude, I don't like that.

Well, what is that? Let's define that. That's the alter ego. Alter ego means other self, right? Alter ego is what's battling your ego. It's this battle of who you really are of the natural man versus the higher self, right? And we're talking about like the alter ego is like, wow, when do I turn it on? The ego doesn't have to tear anyone down. It doesn't have to be disliked. It doesn't

have to be some dick, you know, walking around, but it is supremely confident because I know who I am. It is needed. Right? right absolutely and so the idea of turning on and off the ego that's when we're talking about the alter ego because people step into alter egos right they they think this have this idea of like oh i'm gonna you know step into this this different version of me that they've created right that's fine and all but that's fake right that's fake is it it is because if you if you understand, you don't have to step into anything else but yourself. You have to remain centered in who you are and you stay in that power. OK, so being remaining centered. Right. And also being a person that is personable, likable and can have a casual conversation with someone else are two different aspects yes i'm talking about people who are simply their their ego outweighs the person meaning that you

really can't like engulf yourself in a conversation with them because it's too much ego even if you're they're speaking to a person that's lower level they're still bragging about the things and it's really you're not supposed to do that you know what i'm saying so that's what i'm saying have a balance in regards to know obviously we all have an ego because success is there yes but just know how to balance the ego or just kind of know who to use it against because it can be used you need it at times right we're going back and forth you got to tell me you the best right but when you're teaching and you're expressing yourself or you're being a mentor i feel like you have to kind of lower it so that you can express and people can really take to you in a sense. See, I would push back on that too.

And here's why, here's why, like, I know what you're saying, right? I know exactly what you're saying because like, if you're, if you're some who's constantly telling other people, like, I'm better than you, like no one's going to follow you. Right. Exactly. Like no one's going to follow you right exactly like no one's going to follow you right but what what i'm trying to what i'm trying to explain here is is when you when you understand truly the depth of who you are yes like really who i am in my highest form my highest self my in my highest form now think about ego as being that center of power right if you step into that this is getting I'm gonna say I'm just gonna say it right that's actually the highest form of love

and care you could ever have not only for yourself but for others absolutely and this is what this is like think about this right the most sacred things the most sacred lessons are always the most misunderstood there's always the most backlash around it when you you speak truth, it divides, right? Absolutely. Truth divides. Truth divides, right? It's either right or it's wrong. That's the thing about truth. And especially today, we can talk about this all the time, is no one wants to talk about truth. For some reason, even the word truth offends people to say, oh, well, it's my truth, right? No, no, no. Truth is truth. And yes,

truth is divisive. And that's, there's a reason it's divisive because it separates the men from the boys. It separates the lions from the sheep. It separates those who would live in the light, those who would live in the truth versus those who would not. And that is critical because if we don't do that, if we don't have truth, then we live in chaos. And so what is the truth? The truth is understanding who you are. And if you understand who you really are and your highest power, then you're full of ego. And I know everyone out there wants to, you know, we have this weird definition around ego,

but our definition in the English language is wrong. It's wrong, right? Because I'm very Christian, right? And I'm going to offend a lot of Christians here when I say this, around ego but our definition in the english language is wrong it's wrong right because i i'm very christian right and i'm going to offend a lot of christians here when i say this but this what people people say like in christianity uh you know confess your sins right well that's them that stems from you know the catholic church it comes back obviously from the bible right but actually if you take it back to the islamic and the Jewish language, even before the time of Christ, actually, it was more of confess your greatness. Think about that. Confess your greatness, not your sins. Why is that? Why should you confess your greatness, not your sins? Well,

because if I'm a worthless piece of shit, right? And I constantly, exactly. There is no accountability on how I'm supposed to act. I'm a piece and i tell myself every day i repent of my sins and we act like that's humility right right we act like that's humility is thinking less of ourselves right which is humble that's what the origin of humble i hate that word though the word humble is totally misunderstood right and i'll get to that in a sec remind me we'll get to that in a sec right but but think about this right if i'm a worthless piece of shit, if I'm a worthless worm, lower, you know, all this stuff, right?

Then there's zero accountability. I'm going to act exactly, you know, like to that level, right? But what if I told you that you were a god? What if I told you that you were a king? What if I told you that you actually have the power to create order amongst all the chaos, that you can build kingdoms

here on earth, whether it's in business or your family or whatever it is, you have that power. As a man and as a woman, that is the power inside you. Well, once you understand that, your responsibility and the accountability that you carry on your shoulders every day on how you should act has now elevated to you acting like someone who is important and who actually can make a difference in this world. So the idea of understanding your greatness is actually the most humble thing you could ever do because it will bring you to your knees. When you know who you are, it will bring you to your knees. And actually, when we talk about, there's two words, there's humility and there's meekness. By the way,

stop me if I'm going off. I love these topics. No, it's good. And buy some jerseys while you're at it. But think about this, right? We talk about meekness and we talk about humility. Again, words that are completely misunderstood. The true definition of meekness is greatness beyond all human measure but still being willing to bend the knee because are you really that are you really

that humble if you're just a low piece of and you're always on your knees always begging always begging it was like no you're actually not that humble you beg every day you know you think down on yourself every single day you're not not that humble. You know why? Because you live there. You know who's humble? The king who still bends the knee. The God who still looks to God as our father and says, I will serve thee, right? That's the most humble thing you could ever do is to be great beyond all measure and still be willing to bend the knee, still be willing to serve. And that's where you're talking about when it comes to the ego is still being able to serve and still being around your fellow men and loving them and serving

them, especially in business, right? As business honestly is the new kingdom, right? You build businesses, you're building a form of kingdom, right? And if I'm the head of my business, I am the king of my kingdom. My job, if you're a real entrepreneur, is to serve, is to serve a purpose, to solve a problem, not to make profits, to solve a problem. And if you do that, then you're living in your highest form and your highest self. And I know I get on this tangent, but that is the highest form of humility is to actually have supreme confidence. And I will say an ego if you have an ego then you are now able to be humble right if you're always you know you know who you are that's right you know who you are you carry a light and we know this guys think about the people who walk in a

room and you can feel it you're like who's that but you immediately you know right that's someone who knows who they are that's someone who has sacrificed in their life and has put off what we call the natural man the you know the the weakness of men and they've sacrificed to become who they are and if they've stepped into that it's undeniable you feel that's why when michael jordan walks in the room everyone goes right even before he's michael j they go, there's something different about that dude. Right. It's because he understands the power of ego. And that's what I'm talking about is like, is we, again, we always, we always try to say, hey, you know, channel your ego.

Right. Hey, keep your ego in check. It depends on a person, but I definitely get what you're saying. Right. Some people, they use their ego for bad. Exactly. And those are most people I'm talking about. You're exactly right.

But is that really their ego? If they're using it for bad, like I said, when you step into your highest form of self, that is truth and that is light inside of you. That's confidence, right? Right, right. And does that person ever use that for bad? You can, absolutely.

I believe you can. I would say you don't because that's not your true form you stepped into an alter ego for your own gain in your own benefit again this is the idea of there is the alter ego your other self and your true self and again we define them as the same word as ego right we use the same word as altered it's it one is one is the other self one is your true self right and if you step into light and power and truth, then you are full of love and light and service. You're full of this power of not wanting to tear others down, but to raise them up.

Absolutely. Right. So, I mean, man, we go on these tangents. I was enlightened for sure. I've never heard that take on it. But that's the thing is like, we don't talk about this enough. Nah. And you know why? It's taboo. It's taboo. Because people will be like, well, you're not, as soon as they hear you talking, well,

he's not a humble guy. He's not, they'll start using, throwing those words at you. Right. You're not a man of the people. Yeah. Yeah. You also don't believe depression is real. So you believe in stoicism? Oh yeah. Absolutely. Stoicism? Yeah. You know what that believe depression is real. So you believe in stoicism?

Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Stoicism? Yeah. You know what that is? Stoicism. It's telling yourself that I'm not depressed. So it's all mental.

When you're sick, I'm not sick. Well, sickness might be a little different. You can tell yourself that. Like, I'm serious. Stoicism is a real thing. Stoicism is an ancient philosophy. You know, really, I believe of stoicism, really, the founder ofoicism is a real thing. Stoicism is an ancient philosophy. You know, really, I believe of Stoicism, really, the founder of Stoicism was Aristotle. Yes, yes.

And he was one of the teachers of a man named Marcus Aurelius, who they consider the greatest emperor of Rome. We're talking about the greatest empire of all time, and the greatest emperor practiced this philosophy, right? And the philosophy actually does stem from this idea of what I'm talking about with ego and greatness. And it is that I am in control of my life and anything outside of that is not my concern, right? But no, I mean, to what you're saying, I do not believe depression is real. I believe that is one of the greatest pandemics of this world is to spread this lie of depression, to spread this lie of anxiety. No No that way you feel sad and depressed,

but that doesn't mean you are a depressed person. It's this idea of identity. We're talking about identity and who you are, right? You think that just because you feel sad and depressed often that that's who you are and there's nothing you can do about it. You have no idea who you are and how powerful you are you have no idea what you were put on this earth to do and how much power you have to overcome that if you feel depressed good it's called pain it's a part of this world right and let's just be honest depression is a first world problem you do not see depression in third world second world countries because it is a first world

problem. You know why? Because our lives ain't that tough. Our lives are not that tough. And so we have to create other problems in our life. Or maybe it's because we've never actually suffered. I can tell you exactly how to overcome depression right here, right now. Go do something really, really difficult and overcome it. Whether that's a diet a challenge weightlifting or you know or anything go do something and accomplish something even if it's small because what you'll find it will take pain and sacrifice to get there you have overcome something that is the purpose of our lives is to overcome right and if we sit in our depression a lot of people are depressed when I say this,

they freak out because I'm attacking their identity. And these victims and these people who want to be victims, it is attack on their identity because it gives them a crutch for life. It gives them a reason to always have an excuse. And you guys know from playing sports, there's always someone who always has an excuse on the team. There's always someone who has a little nick, right? But then there's those who find a way to push through that nick, right? They push through that pain to sacrifice for us to win, for the team, whatever it is, right? Jimmy Butler. Yeah, Jimmy Butler. Dude, he's, oh my God. Different. Yeah. He, all the way. I'm just kidding. Dude, he's, what a stud. And he's, he's a clone of Michael Jordan. We can talk about that, right? But, but no not real right and yes it is a real feeling but it is not who you are one of the most dangerous things you could ever have is some doctor tell you that this is

who you are and there's nothing you can do about it here's this medication and here's this medication take it for the rest of your life and big pharma yeah makes 36 a month off you oh no yeah you want to talk about a life-paying residual income for big pharma you're paying it bro yeah right for sure and all because you bought into this idea that you're weak that you can't overcome right that you can't like you know what like people who are depressed are actually blessed because it is a blessing to have your problems. There's actually a woman. Do you guys know who Yoonmi Park is?

I've heard of her. Is that the South Korean? Yes, that's the North Korean girl. She was on Joe Rogan's podcast. She speaks at the UN. I've had the honor of actually being around her and traveling all across the country with her. And she's become a good friend of me and my wife. And I could not tell you guys how powerful that woman is and here's why this one

like i want you guys everyone listen to this i want you to understand this with a little bit of depression all he did was change his diet oh dude i mean what your body is how you control the mind so i got diagnosed with depression okay in college diet the whole time and it was because i wasn't working out i wasn't eating a good diet yeah and they made me believe i was this kid that had depression basically they and you got hey this is how it's going to be the rest of your life they gave me xanax yeah yeah take this stuff and and you'll that'll destroy your life even i almost died from it i dude i don't doubt it and we could talk about big pharma want to shut down this podcast but it's the truth man that is some of

the most dangerous stuff you could ever put in your body yeah and we're just handing it out like it's candy yeah right but i mean let's like the body's the key to controlling the mind so if you want to control the mind your body is that tool so if you and that's why they say you can solve 90 of depression anxiety through the body through exercise and diet you know and i also like of course there's going to be someone who has something in their brain that is off but that is a small percentage so small that we need to have this conversation that that's probably if you're listening it's probably not you right because we're talking 99 of all this depression anxiety stuff is actually something that you could easily overcome and they say oh it's a chemical imbalance your brain well no everything's a chemical

imbalance your brain if i start talking to you about puppies killed right and we just start having that conversation about little puppies right there being we're all gonna feel sad guess what happened we all had some release of chemical in our brain with the thought so actually our thoughts control the release so if it's it's not the other way around it's not all the chemicals are being released and then i have a thought no your thoughts are what release the chemicals the chemicals that's why depression cannot exist in the same body as gratitude and if you live in gratitude and you have that power can't be sad you can't be sad it's impossible and this is what i'm saying about you and me because even your losses you actually are thankful for them because there's a lesson in them so

exactly you really can't be down about anything. So happiness is a choice. Happiness is a choice. Every day. It's a hard choice. Easy is actually easier to be sad. It is easier. It is way easier.

That's why it's a first world problem because we choose the easy route. We choose this victim route. It makes us feel better. Oddly enough, it makes us feel better to have that because it gives us something to overcome or really just some crutch to live with. It's attention. It's gratitude. It's people.

It's more so along the lines of attention because people actually take to you more when you're sad. They feel sorry for you. Oh, we want to talk about the manipulation that people are willing to do to get you to conform to them. For sure. Because, hey, I'm feeling depressed today. Okay, let me get you a blanket right let me get you some crackers they're not gonna tend to the happy guy yeah they're gonna tend to the sad girlfriend that's right not even a sad man

yeah the sad man we are literally we got to deal with that on our own yeah the sad woman gets all the attention and care the sad man has to just get over that's right that's right that's the way the world is built designed it is for sure something that people use to manipulate others to get what they want i mean let's be honest it is you know wait can you tell everybody what you do well so i own a company called the alphas creed um it's a it's my coaching company where i teach people what we're talking about now i teach people you know actually how to make more money how to become more physically fit and how to become who you're supposed to become right I also own a company called Black Pine Capital which

is just a conglomerate of different businesses like life insurance company credit company real estate stuff like that stuff like that. So when did you actually feel like there was a need for what you do? And when did you actually start to build your own confidence in regards to like, because money actually helps with confidence. I feel like some people may be wrong, but I feel like money actually helps with confidence. When did you make enough money to where you was like, you know what? This feels good. I'm going to start teaching other people how to, you know, get to where I'm at through a feeling or happiness or just attracting it.

Oddly enough, it's always been my vision since I was a kid. Oh, okay. Right? So I'll just give you guys a quick rundown. So on my Instagram, I'm called The Bull, right? My nickname is The Bull and people can say whatever the fuck they want. But I didn't give myself that nickname, okay? I didn't come up with it. I actually hated it with i actually hate i can tell why yeah i can tell but actually

growing up my nickname used to be the fat bull right so i was bullied like a you know all growing up man i mean one of the things these kids used to do is you know like and this was all all growing up they would group these kids would find me tackle me kick the out of me pour chocolate milk down my throat you know stuff tater tots my mouth say fat bull needs milk right this one went on for years right wow and and i'll just i'll just give you guys you know a quick idea of this like one day like i mean i'm talking years like i i dude i it went on so long i didn't want to wake up you know i really i didn't want to wake up it was because you know

why because it was safe in my bed right if i went if i was in bed if i was asleep if i stayed home it was safe but and every day i woke up having to go to school it's like it's almost like i woke up like i was gonna go get in a fight because all the times i was like i had those butterflies in my stomach like a lot of times i was puking before i went to school i was so nervous right and and so i won and one of these days like it just felt worse than ever and just something snapped because you know like these kids they do the same thing they found me they beat the shit out of me you know pour chocolate milk all over my face and i was begging them to stop and i just dude i i begged them just stop and they

went and they ran off right but but i anyway, so what didn't get me, though, it was the moment that I rolled over. I was on my knees and I just got blood in my nose and all this. And I look out and I see all these kids watching. Watching. And I knew they felt bad, but they didn't do anything about it. They didn't do anything. And, dude, I just sat there and I asked. asked i was like why won't any of you help me and i walked i walked straight

home my home wasn't far from the elementary school i walked home and you know my mom saw me and she was freaking out like again this has been going on for years and and dude i tell you she called my dad my dad came out from you know the back room and he saw me. And I'm telling you, man, something in his eyes when I, and he saw me snapped. No, it just snapped. I mean, in just pure anger and like a father would, he just snapped, but not at me. And I knew that it wasn't at me, but I saw something in his eyes snap. And immediately he grabs me, pulls me away from my mom and takes me to another room

and he looks me dead in the eye and says, son, no one is coming to save you. And he said, you're going to have to be the hero of your own story. You're going to have to take care of this on your own

because no one's coming to help you. You're going to have to be great or you're going to be nothing. So then he literally then proceeded to kick me out of the house. And he said, don't come home until you beat one of those kids up. How old were you? I was 11 at this time. He went down the street and fucked that kid up.

That's what's funny is I was scared shitless. But in my mind, I couldn't go home. He gave me no choice. He kicked me out of the house, said, don't come home until you beat the shit out of me. Did he actually watch the fight from around the corner? No. No, no. You know, it's funny because i guess i probably could have faked it you know i did it yeah but like for some reason i just believed him like it's not gonna i can't come home

right so i did i was puking all i was so scared and i found one of the kids and just because i felt like you know we talked about your back and so well i felt like i had no choice knock on this kid's door and i you know he comes the door and I just beat the living out of him man right there just beat the out of just all my rage just came out and dude I ran home I thought I was gonna get arrested right but I'm running home and I I tell you this was the first moment in my life where I'd ever felt we're talking about the power of self and the power of ego pure joy and happiness I was so happy running home i mean i could not wait to show my dad my knuckles because that's like you know if you've ever been in a fistfight you know like your hands kind of fucked up a little bit of swelling right and that's if you connected yeah

especially if you're you know like and so i couldn't wait i just was so excited to show him right and he took me he you know when i went home and show him he took me out to get a wendy's frosty and burger probably didn't eat it because i was a fat bull but whatever you know but and he took me he when i went home and showed him he took me out to get a wendy's frosty and burger probably didn't eat it because i was a fat bull but whatever you know but and he just he just told me again he said he said this he said you have to become someone who's strong enough not only to defend yourself but to defend others so you were the only child no i had i had siblings i had three sisters at the time you were the youngest or older i was the second oldest oh right so you can't go get your sister yeah but like that you know and that's thing is he he instilled that in me and for the rest of my life that has been something that has stayed with me is this idea

you have you have a duty to become someone who not only can protect themselves but can protect others whether it's physically emotionally right you have to be strong enough emotionally for others spiritually but financially but and that that's been the mission of my life is i've always wanted to build a business where i could help people in those things not only become who they're supposed to become but become strong enough to defend themselves and protect themselves and their family but also to stand up for others because there's a lot of in this world there's a lot of evil this is evil and nasty it's not set for the world is not set up for

i'm not gonna say good people but weak men that's right i not say like if there's anything wrong with uh you know a beta but you can't there is something wrong with the beta you can't be well there are some actual betas that can actually fight you know so i'll give them that so i can't like blanket that but i'm just saying just in general the world is not set up men have to be tough yes they have to be tough and they want a world full of weak men that's why they keep trying to shut the boy up andrew andrew tate because he's actually teaching strength yes he's not teaching you're not doing anything wrong he's just teaching how to be a strong man yes that's right and if you actually that word keeps spreading he'll create a coalition an army of strong it'll be, it can't overthrow.

And nothing could be more important. I hope and pray that I can spread, you know, that message as well is, is because we're talking about pandemic, like the greatest pandemic in this world is weak men. Weak men are the reason this is happening. Why do you think they want us weak? Because we're easier to control. Again, think about this.

How, like, can you control, like, let's define beta let's define alpha right because you know my so it's funny you know i'm a dude walks around the mall and my name nickname's the bull right and after that day you know they stopped calling me the fat boy started to call me the bull that's where i came from right and they started a business called alpha right biggest douchebag you've ever heard of right i mean perfect definition put me in the box douchebag right but you know what i don't fucking care because if that word alpha offends you then i know who you are you're offended by that word got it because an alpha is the only thing that can actually protect us an alpha is a protector a provider a leader and if you don't want if you want to you don't want, if you want to

control a group of people, if you want to control a whole country or the world, get rid of the alphas. Make alpha seem like it's something that is toxic, right? Misogynistic. Misogynistic. Whatever it is, make the idea of alpha wrong. And I will die with this message of being an alpha is the most powerful thing you could ever do. Owning the fact that you're an alpha is, is not something like, Oh, real alphas don't need to call themselves alphas. We're over that. Okay. It's not 1980 anymore. We're over that. You see where this world is. It's time to start declaring which side you're on. I'm an alpha, which means you're not not gonna fuck with those kids all the at the higher level we need to fucking get them we need to get to them we need to fight we need to get

you know like actually unite and say no more right because there's we talk about kids in the or let's talk about if you want to save the turtles whatever you want to do whatever evil you want to stop this world you have to be an alpha to do it. You cannot be a beta. And a beta is someone who is a coward, who is weak, who hides, who is silent. That's the key word right there is silent. Because cowards are silent. Betas are silent. Right? And again, we could talk about like light versus dark. When I went through that as a kid kid i actually don't blame the kids so much who beat me up i blame the kids who watched because they allowed this to happen i actually blame i know you're right i don't blame you i actually blame you it is my the reason why the reason why

i blame you is because that was a choice that you made to allow them i allowed it the day yo pops said two words to you get out yes you go win you could have won already yeah you could have won a million times i was being a coward right right from every day forward you won yes so i kind of look at you as not as a victim but more of a participant in the bs because that's what you were you didn't know the power that you had you're 1000 correct i have no you're what i could not agree you know that i know dude that's what you were. You didn't know the power that you had. You're 1,000% correct. No, I could not agree with you more. And you know that. I know.

Dude, that's what my dad showed me. I was being a beta. I was being a little coward. And he showed me, no, you're better than this. You're stronger than this. I'm going to show it. And that's the power of a father, man, is that he can say, get the hell out and go be a man.

Right? Go be a fucking man and be strong. And that'll live with me to the day i die but also think about all the people who could have done something right because let's be honest there are people in situations who cannot help themselves mostly kids the kids who are preyed upon by these you know like these kids can't help themselves but as we sit here and allow that to happen guess whose fault it is it's ours because the only thing necessary for evil to triumph in this world is for good men and women to do nothing right it's just the act of doing nothing that allows this to happen because if there's alphas if there's

stronger men like what you're talking about what andrew tate talks about if there's strong men who are willing to stand and fight then the cowards the wolves who prey on the sheep they will cower they will run they will hide that's the that's the nature of darkness and evil is it's a coward and the second it's faced with an alpha with someone who's strong someone who can fight back whether again whether it's financially mentally emotionally in every aspect if you're someone who can stand your ground you're dangerous and it's dangerous men and women by the way it's dangerous people who are strong and who are alphas that are going to change the world that are going to make this world a safer and better place

i was telling sean uh we had this discussion i said you have to be as good as you are good you have to be as evil as you are good remember what's happening you're telling me you have to be as good as you are good you have to be as evil as you are good remember what's happening you have to be as you're a good person you have to be that equal amount of yeah and you have to have you have to you have to have some nastiness inside you some you have to dude you want to talk about anger oh yeah you believe you can manifest anger into positivity right i believe anger is a tool i believe anyone who tells you not to be an angry person is someone who is trying to destroy your life. Because anger is a weapon. Anger, I mean, let's talk about, again, there's different types of anger.

Just like there's different, you know, conversations of ego, right? But like... Anger should be controlled too. I believe that anger should be controlled. Anger must be controlled. It must be sheathed like a sword, right? Like any weapon, it must be under perfect control. But it must be sheathed like a sword yeah right like any weapon it must be under perfect control but it must always be ready because anger dissolves shame

god and again i'm very christian i believe in god god exercises righteous anger so if god exercises anger then you should too against evil against things that you believe are wrong. Your anger is a tool, right? And let's talk about like the greatest moments in any movie or in any hero's journey is the moment where they can't go on. They're beat to their knees, right? They can't keep going. They don't have anything left. And then suddenly they summon something from deep within that gets them, that infuses them with power that they didn't know they had. And like, let's talk about the face they make and what their energy becomes in that moment when they're beat down.

You can't keep going. You have no idea how you're going to survive. And yet something in you calls to you and says, keep going. That is anger because the face you make in the in the sight of fear in the face of failure is anger it is summoning this this piss and vinegar to say yes i can't right and that is the tool that is the moment to call it forward to say we can do this right and that's again but if your anger is out of control then your anger controls you but just like any weapon any virtue you must have total control the opposite of control is chaos and if you are controlled by the anger you live in chaos as

opposed to being an alpha as opposed to being a leader, as what we're talking about here. You are the one who creates the order, the control within the chaos. Right. As a man, as a woman, as an entrepreneur, it's chaos out there. And my job is to create order, to create order as a man, as a woman, as an alpha. I create the order to control the chaos. And that's the whole point of stoicism that's the whole point of being a man of fighting back against this chaos and darkness is to actually be in

control right and if you have control then you have power power is control because power unloosed and out of control is chaos. Wow. Right? I could talk to this man for hours. Are we done already? We're done, man. Oh, shit, man. This was fun, man.

We got to do a part two. Dude, I'm down. This was fun. I appreciate you guys having me out. Sorry I talked so much. No, I mean, it's the difference between talking too much and it kind of being not a draw, but you're actually the substance there.

Yeah. Everything you were saying was very interesting there that's this yeah you can learn a lot he was saying was very interesting very powerful yeah any closing comments man hopefully we don't get shadowbanned man we might but we might but you know what's funny i'll just say this one last thing is is if we get shadowbanned because we're speaking the truth yeah and it's like my words don't matter like i'm not the most articulate person even though i've trained my life to be as articulate as possible it is so difficult to articulate your thoughts and feelings but what what we're feeling here in this room is truth because if you speak truth then it calls to your

soul it calls the light within and it speaks a different message to you right and anyone listening to this hearing this if this calls to you it's because we're speaking truth and that's a dangerous thing to the to the opposition that's a dangerous thing to the opposition. That's a dangerous thing is for men and women. I want to make sure we're all together, men and women, to have the conversations of truth. It's podcasts like this that spread that message that let everybody out there know that they're not alone. Absolutely. And it's when you feel alone is when they get you. But when we're united as one and you understand who you can become, that's the power that can change the world.

Love it. Zwayne? He's speechless, guys. I don't know. Oh, man. Thanks for watching, guys. Digital Social Hour. See you next time.

Peace.