Digital Social Hour - Joe Gatto's Secrets to Comedy Success & Life Balance | Joe Gatto DSH #1258

Episode Date: March 22, 2025

🎤 Join us on this episode of Digital Social Hour as we dive into "Joe Gatto's Secrets to Comedy Success & Life Balance" with the one and only Joe Gatto! From his Impractical Jokers fame to his thriving solo comedy tour, Joe opens up about the hustle, humor, and heart that have shaped his career and personal life. 🕺✨ In this fun and revealing chat, Joe shares hilarious touring stories, his unique take on balancing family time with a hectic schedule, and even his secret love for chess and bowling! 🎭💡 Plus, get a glimpse into Joe's passion for filmmaking, his vegetarian journey, and why making memories matters more than material gifts. 🥗📽️ Packed with valuable insights, laugh-out-loud moments, and heartwarming anecdotes, this conversation is not to be missed. Tune in now and join the fun! 🎉 Watch now and subscribe for more insider secrets. 📺 Hit that subscribe button and stay tuned for more eye-opening stories on the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! 🚀 CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 00:27 - Joe’s on Tour 05:00 - Today’s Sponsor 05:59 - Fear of Aging 07:37 - Parenthood and Kids 08:36 - Chess Strategies 10:55 - Bowling Fun 13:38 - Cannoli Treats 14:25 - First Solo Comedy Show 15:50 - Engaging with the Crowd 18:44 - Taking the Subway 19:20 - Importance of Comedy Today 19:58 - Hosting Your Own Show 20:55 - Past Life Reflections 23:45 - Curiosity and Interests 25:57 - Road Trip with MapQuest 27:34 - AI Technology 29:16 - Healthy Diet Choices 32:54 - 32,000 Calorie Challenge 34:08 - Fiancé’s Baking Skills 35:10 - Joe’s Cooking Adventures 37:34 - Portion Control Tips 38:58 - Movie Theaters Experience 41:01 - Favorite Movie Genres 42:44 - Belief in Ghosts 44:37 - Analyzing Memento 45:44 - Reality TV Insights 47:35 - Dopamine Detox Explained 49:20 - Exploring Psychedelics 51:43 - Where to Find Joe 51:54 - Joe Gatto - Outro APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: [e-mail] GUEST: Joe Gatto  https://www.instagram.com/joe_gatto SPONSORS: SPECIALIZED RECRUITING GROUP:  https://www.srgpros.com/ LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ #worklifebalance #virtualimprov #standupcomedy #standup #impracticaljokers

You know you get the strip you get lucky. Yeah, but I feel like those kind of games. I like them to more communal It's on my bucket list to try but I have tennis elbow currently Don't play tennis and my hurt my elbow about a year ago, and I went to the doctor like you have tennis elbow I'm like how? You're funny. I must add too much canola I love me some canola. Oh, the best. All right, guys, he is back. Joe Gatto in the building.

Hello. What brings you to Vegas this time? I missed you. Yeah. Thank you. Monty. Good to see you. Yeah, yeah, I know.

I'm on my way back from LA. I had a couple of things to do in LA. Couple of shows. I'm on tour, yeah. I like those couple meetings and stuff. I got some scripts I'm trying to get going. So I'm on my way back to perform this weekend. So right in New York. No, I'm actually this weekend I'm in Indiana, Missouri

Middle a little bit middle America So it made sense to go stop on the way back home and then finish and in New York. You're still on tour, huh? I'm on tour. Yeah, let's get into a tour. Just I started in September and it's Yeah, go through June. Yeah goes through June and then I'll take the summer off to be home with the fam. Damn. When the kids are off from school and then I'll start back up. That's a lot of traveling, man.

Well done. Yeah, it's easier. It's like the weekends, you know, I do Thursday to Sunday, you know, I get home and then I'm home during the week with the kids and stuff. So it's good. It all works out. Any cities surprise you or shock you in any way?

Pittsburgh was cool. Really? Like Pittsburgh a lot. I don't know, just when I got there, I just like, you know, you always see, you always have like a vision of a city before you go to it, I think. Yeah.

You know, but like when I got there, the way it presents, you'd go through this tunnel and you just opens up into this bridge and it's this island where you see literally everything at once. It looks like a painting. And I was like, I went there, I was like, this is really cool.

Wow. Really nice. I've never been there, man. You've never been to Pittsburgh? No. I've been to all 50 states. I performed live comedy in all 50 states. I made my, I made a bucket list thing and I finished two years there, man. You've never been to Pittsburgh? No. I've been to all 50 states. I performed live comedy in all 50 states. I made a bucket list thing and I finished two years ago. Okay.

Fargo, North Dakota was the last checkbox. And where do you rank that? Last? In Fargo. No, it was completely different. Like it's way up there. Okay. Yeah, you know.

I'd imagine New York is your first favorite state. No. Really? No, yeah. That's a lie. It probably is, but like California I love, I love Florida. I've pleasantly surprised with Ohio. I always have great shows in Ohio.

Yeah, Columbus, Cincinnati, Cleveland. I love those cities. There's a lot of good people there. It's cold out there, man. Yeah, I'm from New York. Yeah, cities like that. You're not out here in this desert heat. Well, I grew up in Jersey,

so now I get cold out here right now. Yeah, when the sun goes down, it gets freezing out here. Yeah, I mean, you adjust. People complain about being cold in Miami when it's like 50 degrees. I was just, well, there was this whole weird thing from that like a month ago where it snowed in North Carolina and like, they had no idea what to do.

Like nobody even had like salt. What do we do? They just shut everything for three days. We're like, we're just waiting for this to melt. When I was in DC, it smelled like a foot and it was normal, you know, DC. And I was in, have you ever been to, where's Sundance festival?

In Utah. Utah, yeah. Park City? Park City. Have you been there? No, I've been to Salt Lake. I've been through, I had another state there, but not, I haven't been.

How was Salt Lake? The Mormon club. Salt Lake, yeah, they love comedy, man. Really? Yeah, they're fun people. Salt Lake's great, it's really cool. It's got like, it does, because it has like a stigma to it

because of the Mormon. Yeah, yeah. Thing, but I didn't find it to be much different than any other comedy crowd, you know, just came out to life. They got to be led by like 10 PM or? Yeah, you know, you tuck them in. There's no electricity, you know, that's not that. You doing anything on TV anymore?

No, I'm trying to, I do the standup stuff now. And then I've been trying, I started, I wanted to be a filmmaker. I was when I got into this. That's cool. Yeah, I actually moved to California, LA in 2003 to chase a dream in Hollywood and to be a film. I ended up working at Nordstrom, but it was a side thing.

But I really love film always was. So now I'm concentrating on hopefully try to direct a film. I ended up working at Nordstrom, but... A little bit of a side thing. But I really love film, always was. So now I'm concentrating on hopefully trying to direct a feature. I like a couple scripts, which is cool. And I love writing, so it's fun. But to stand up, I mean, I just love performing. I love making people laugh. Again, now making a reason for people to come out and forget all the BS that's happening, you know?

That's who you were on Impractical Jokers, man. You were the best at making people laugh. Yeah, thank you, bud. It just translates so well. You were doing comedy before that show, right? Yeah, I've been doing it for, since, performing live since 99. Damn.

Yeah, we started our improv comedy troupe in 1999 and we've been doing that, so, yeah, way longer than you probably been alive. I was born in 97. Oh, there you go, all right. A couple of years, man. Birthday's tomorrow, actually. Oh, happy birthday.

Let's go. That's great. Querious. Oh, nice. So your birthday is tomorrow. You got big plans or what are you doing? Nah,, happy birthday. Let's go. That's great. Querious. Oh nice. So your birthday is tomorrow. You got big plans or what are you doing? Nah, a little bit. A little bit.

I feel like as you get older, it's not as fun. Do you find adults who celebrate their birthday weird? Yes. That's like a big conversation. It's weird, right? I think like, I mean, you gotta do the bangers. You gotta do the decades or give it the half years, you know, 35s, 45s.

Okay, no. But like somebody's doing like 47th birthday, you know, 32nd birthday, it's just, yeah. Yeah, it's got to end in a zero or five. That's right, a zero or five, I'll give you. And do you think they should stop at a certain age overall? No, I think they need to start celebrating. I think it starts getting more so.

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No, I'm not. I mean, I just, I lost my dad when I was young. I was 19 years old, my dad passed away and my mom was pretty young too, but I was just like always taught and felt live life to the fullest, you know, do what you can while you're here. That's important.

I think it's really, I think it's the most important thing. Yeah. Cause a lot of people save up and save up. It's like, have some fun now. Yeah, do it while you can, you know. You'll be responsible to do what you can, but also don't be afraid to put yourself in a position

where you have to hustle a little bit to make a little more and make the memory. It's such a, I hear this all the time and I believe it now is like, your kids will forget whatever you bought them for, ask your kids last year when you got them for Christmas and then ask your kids what their favorite vacation was and they'll be able to recap the whole vacation

and completely forget when you got them for Christmas. When I tried that with my daughter last year, and it worked, and all she did was she recapped the whole trip to Disney World and didn't even mention one thing she opened. Damn. Which is so true though. I remember my vacation in Greece when I was a kid, like back in my... Is that crazy?

And it was my favorite one ever. It's all about experiences. For Christmas, I can't remember a single gift for parents. It's experiences. It really is. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. You got to live life, traveling and experiencing things. Making memories is true. Well, because like that too is like, that's what, oh, you leave Yeah. Yes, you gotta live life, traveling and experiencing things. Making memories is true.

Well, because like that too is like, that's what you leave your family with, or your friends with. They remember your stories. You know, they don't remember the thing you bought them or the thing, you know, but they did. So. Facts, family's super important for you.

Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Big family. I grew up in a divorced household. So it was kind of traumatic, but I think I really want kids. Oh yeah.

Yeah, you should do it, man. It's fun. How old were you when you had the first one? I was 39. Oh yeah. I didn't meet my wife till I was 30. I didn't get married till I was 36 or 35. Okay. So I was later in the game for sure. Get married this year man. Oh yeah. 28. Dude that's awesome congrats. One kids by 30 and one a few. Okay I would just want one. I have two. I love the Tuesday night. I had one girl, one boy, so I was like, all right, we're done.

I want, but you can't pick. If you had your pick, would you want a girl first or a boy first? Do you want a boy first? You want an older brother? Yeah, interesting. You have an older... So I grew up with older sisters.

I have two older sisters that are awesome. And I really think they help raise a gentleman or a guy who knows how to be handle and not be afraid. Women like being a house full of women. Things like that. So I really liked that. And I think later in life it comes in handy, but there is something to have an older brother.

Like I used to get my ass kicked a lot and I kind of wish I had older brother. Really? It's an older brother. Yeah. Wow. So you got picked on. Yeah, a little bit. I got bullied a little bit.

I was super nerdy when I was younger. What were you nerding out about? I saw the movie Willow. Do you know the movie? It's basically like a Lord of the Rings light kind of the old magic elves and stuff. And I started creative writing and fantasy stuff. I was good at math, chess, things like that.

I wasn't good at sports. You still play chess? I do, yeah. You gotta play it, man. Oh yeah, you fight? I play every day. Oh, really? Yeah.

Are you good? Depends what good is. Okay, what, your version? So do you know the rating system? No, I don't want to. I want to say, right, do you like, do you think like, you're like, yeah, if somebody said you're good at chess, you're like, yeah, I'm good.

I'll put it this way. If a random player who's never played before played me, he wouldn't win. Gotcha. Like there's no way I would lose to just some random. Somebody on the streets. Yeah. Okay. So I would put myself at almost good.

Like I'm between okay and good. Cause I don't play as often as I used to. When I was younger, I used to be better, you Because I don't play as often as I used to. When I was younger, I used to be better, you know? But my son started playing, which is fun. So now he's going to teach him and it's... It's so fun, man. I love chess. Yeah, chess is good.

I like it because it's also now like it's... It came back into... There was that show, The Queen's Gambit. So it came back into like culture a little bit. That's why I started playing. No way, really? Yeah. I didn't play as a kid. Oh. Yeah, I was a late bloomer. Oh, wow.? Yeah. I didn't play as a kid. Oh. Yeah, I was a late bloomer.

Oh, wow. That show brought a lot of people to the game. Dude, I'm watching it. It was like a perfect storm with that COVID. Like everybody getting locked up playing the apps. Everyone was bored. The chess, you know, like that's the chess app. I've been banned twice.

Did you? Yeah. Why? I talk shit. How do you get banned from a chess app? What are you doing on these streets? I'll be honest. I'll be honest. I'm a sore loser.

Oh, okay. So I was talking shit. Okay. And you're not supposed to talk in chess. No. I think you should be able to. Well, it's an app. It's not like a walkie talkie. No, but there's a chat thing.

Oh, so they... this side on you. They shouldn't have it then. Why is a chat thing there? Some players can turn it off. But when you both have it on, you can talk to each other. You're like... So like, checkmate, bitch. Yeah. When someone's about to win, they'll be like go ahead pussy. Oh really yeah, yeah

But I like that trash talking to someone reported me man. No, that's what I think is snitches on these streets You gotta be careful. Yeah, but even in person because I go to New York. I played in New York once That's a bunch of playing the park. Yeah, I got destroyed. Oh, they are so great. I used to sit there people watch hours So I never I never sat down those tables, but they were so fun. Talking about trash talking. Yeah. But that's like, that's like, that is like a destination things for people. It's like a bucket listing. Like you said, like that people are like, I'm gonna go play there. I went out of my way to play there. Really? Yeah. I went, I told my girl, I'm like, we're going here to play. That's like, I know we're in

Jersey today, but we're going. It's like a pickup game at the West fourth street courts. And like, if you want to like see, they can play basketball. Like, yeah. You play basketball. I shoot the ball. Okay. That's where it starts. And that's I'm a bowler.

Like a bowl. What's your best bowling score? 288. Yeah. That's almost all strike. In high school. Yeah. I was a, I was a math lead and I was on the bowling team. So that's what I'm talking about.

Wonder why I got picked on. But yeah. So I was, yeah, that was a fluke though. My average was like two 10, two or one. I'm still, but it's I got picked on. But, uh, yeah. So I was, uh, yeah, that was a fluke though. My average was like two 10 to a one. But it's still good. Yeah. You could have went pro. I did.

Well, yeah, but I didn't. No money in that. My, my dad was on a bowling league, so he used to go Thursday nights and we take me and my friend, Joey, Joey T we used to go, but like we would, they put the kids on the lane, but I was just bowling. I, so I bowled like every, twice a week for like ever. And then I joined the bowling team in high school and, uh, and I just bowled. But now it's funny, cause it's like a sleeper thing.

Like we're on the road or something. I'll be with people like, yeah, let's go bowling. Or I had never to bowl in Alley and it all started just straight to like, what the hell's going on? Yeah. Yeah. Cause you don't lose that. That's like muscle mass.

Oh, that's it. Yeah. You're getting like riding a bike. That's a hundred percent sure. I wanted to be good at bowling because pool takes so long to be good at. Pool. I can't do it. That's like muscle. Oh, that's it. Yeah, you get like riding a bike. That's 100% sure I wanted to be good at bowling because pool takes so long to be good at pool. I can't do it's so hard Oh, no bowling. I feel like you could get decent I think people look at it like in a beautiful mind thing that you figure out like what I was like I don't know like we're how to hit the ball where to hit the ball. That's it air hockey

I represent you're nice at air. How they am nice foosball was my game foosball. No good. You're good at that That's good. I was good. You know, do you know the Italian Ski Ball? Italian Ski... Like it's like to basically the sliders. It's like a long table like this and it's got a one, two, and three. Shuffle board.

Yeah, shuffle board. Yeah, I said Ski Ball. I meant shuffle board. I love shuffle board. I love those long tables. You get a nice 16 footer. Yeah. Those feel great when you hit in the three.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like those kinds of games because anybody like that, Foosball kind of, but more like air hockey, anybody can play it. That's true. You know what I mean? They could get up and get played.

You know, you get destroyed, but you get lucky. Yeah. But I feel like those kinds of games, I like those. They're more communal. So you like pickleball then? It's on my bucket list to try, but I have tennis elbow currently. Ooh.

I don't know why. Don't play tennis. And I hurt my elbow about a year ago and I went to the doctor and they're like, you have tennis elbow. I'm like, how? You're supposed to hit your funny bone. I'm like, I had too much cannolis or cookies or

something. I love me some cannolis. Oh the best. What's your favorite dessert? Dessert? Oh cheesecake. Cheesecake? Good old New York cheesecake. Straight up? What are we talking drizzle? You got a drizzle on it? It was whipped cream. Whipped cream yeah. Drizzle? I could go without drizzle. Without? Jane from me. Me yeah. You're cannolis though right? I'm a cannoli yeah. I do a cannoli or a lobster tail. Okay. I love those like. I've had a lot of bad cannolis though. Have you? Yeah. You're a cannoli though, right? I'm a cannoli, yeah. I do a cannoli or a lobster tail. Okay. I love those like- I've had a lot of bad cannolis though. Have you?

Yeah. I'm sorry. I'm here to apologize. I have the cannoli community. I'm sure if I had a good one, I would like it. Cause the concept of it, I would like. Yeah. I think you get, in the big cities, you're good. Okay.

But I'll have people, I'll be on the road in these little towns and they're like, you gotta get the cannoli from here. It's the best cannoli in town. And I go and I'm like, this is the worst cannoli. Sometimes the bread ratio's off. Well, yeah, so a lot of it falls into like, if you get a soggy, you know,

it absorbs so much of the cream, the shell, it's terrible. Like you need that crunch. It's not an easy thing to make. I don't think so. Have you ever made it? No, I didn't want to ruin it for myself. I'm not a baker, I'm a cooker. Yeah, I cook one.

Cause I love pizza, but making it doesn't taste as good. No way. You know? Yeah. Right. Did you have a big thing that happened, and I think probably in Jersey too, was like the backyard pizza ovens.

Do you know those, like they did the like the brick oven thing? There was a big fad when everybody was doing the outdoor kitchens. Okay. They would do a backyard. Oh, during the pandemic? Yeah. Always out. Pizza ovens.

Always in LA. So they were doing that kind of thing. And it was like everybody would like have pizza parties in the backyard. That's cool. Make their own pizzas. I miss Jersey pizza man. Yeah. And Italian.

Out here, no good. Not really. Cause they bring the restaurants out here, but it's the water. Yeah. Something in the water, right? You don't go to New York, New York and get the pizza. Oh, you get a real slice in authentic.

Nah, Vegas has its restaurants though. For sure. We can hold up. Oh dude, I love it out here. Yeah. I'm out here like seven, eight times a a year damn. What's your go-to hotel? Aria or Cosmo Paulman. Yeah, the Cosmo. I'm actually playing the Cosmo in May. Oh, yeah, may 3rd. I'm at the I'm at the Dunedin Chelsea. I'm psyched. Is that one of your biggest audiences? It's a big theater. Yeah, that's about where I hang I don't yeah, 1500. Yeah, it's not a 1500. Yeah about there. Yeah

Yeah, there's levels to comedy. For sure. You start out in like the Hunter person, right? You do like the comedy club stuff, yeah. But when I toured with the guys, we did big rooms and stuff. And then when we started, I started my solo stuff, I started doing stand-up. I had to do the little rooms just to see if I took to it and how it went. And I liked it and then people started coming out and I actually put together an hour I

liked and I was like, okay, this is cool. So I started moving to the theaters pretty quick, and I move around a lot. Like I got a lot of energy. So like those smaller comedy clubs are tough. I find more jokes when I have more room. So like my hour always got stronger when I started moving to a theater.

And I remember when I did my first one. So I did, I toured for two and a half years with Messing With People. It's my special. Messing With People? Messing With People. It's my special. Messing With People? Messing With People, it's on Hulu. So yeah, you can check that out. But when I did that, I remember like,

the last show I did in the Comedy Club versus the first one I did in the theater, I was like, I found like, I'm not even kidding, I found like 10 more minutes of jokes, just because I use my body more, I have more room to walk around. I'm pretty physical. My god, you've seen me, you know,

like I'm very physical in my comedy. So when I had that, I was like, oh, wow. So I really enjoy a stage. Yeah. Do you have any methods for getting loose with the crowd? No, I don't really do crowd work. What I do do is I'm not a comic that sits in the hotel room and waits for a show.

I'll go out about town, grab a cup of coffee, a donut, hit Main Street, walk around, pop into the shops and stuff. And I'll always garner a story or two from that. So I'll open with that a little bit to just to talk about that a little. And then I'll get into my. Wow. Yeah. I like that.

You see some wild stuff. Yeah. Today I saw someone walking a wheel on a leash, a wheel of a car. I'm not even kidding. On the way to the studio. Dude, I have a, I have a good excuse for that. That's insane. I was like, well, this is Vegas too. So like that's, uh, it's probably pretty normal.

Like I was like, yeah, I'm just taking my wheel for a walk. He was probably trying to sell it or something. I don't know. So was he, was it a push or pull situation? Pull. The wheel was behind him and he had something in his other hand. It was interesting. I think he was homeless, but yeah, wheels are worth some money.

Or yeah, yeah, yeah. You could do a reset. There's a big resale market on this. I don't know if he stole it or how he got the wheel. That was where my... That's where he head right away. He's like, where'd you get this wheel? I don't know how you get one single wheel. One wheel. That's crazy. What's the craziest thing you've seen on the streets?

Oh my God. I forget it. In New York. I mean, in New York City. I didn't think I was going to tell this story, but in New York City, I had seen, I'm not even kidding, there was two homeless people getting married by a third homeless guy. No. They were having like a full blown,

it was down by Wall Street and they were having like, I was like, oh, these people. And then it was just the three of them. And he was like doing a wedding. And I was like, oh, I was looking around for cameras. I was like, oh, was this like something being filmed? Like just, and it was just like the three of them. And then he like got set and he kissed her and the guy like threw rice

at them and then they like picked up their car and it just walked away. And I was like, did I just see two homeless people get married on the street in New York? So it was insane. I was like, one of the weirdest things that, but love happens anywhere. You know what I mean? Home or not. Yeah.

There's been public love on the streets. I'm sorry. I've seen it on the subways. I've seen, you see some pretty good stuff. Well out here, the homeless are hidden. There's a little documentary on this. They're in the tunnels. The hidden homeless, wow. Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, they have to be, right? Cause of the sun all day. Yeah, I guess it's too hot. Yeah, it's tough. And the summers. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you see people that are like in Boston

and they're homeless. I'm like, why don't you try and like to go south? Like- Same with New York. Yeah, same deal. Like I see that. I was like, yeah, it's gotta be so much harder to deal with the elements. I'm complaining, why don't you try and like to go south? Like- Same in New York. Yeah, same deal. Like I see that, I was like,

it's gotta be so much harder to deal with the elements. I'm complaining about moving my trash to like the road. Yeah. And then I'm like shivering. But these homeless people are out there all night. It blows my mind. Crazy. I think maybe you get used to that life too, right?

It's like anything, I guess you adapt. Yeah. But I can't imagine it, you know? No. But some people you just see them, they adapt and it's, you know, they're out there. There was a guy down on, I used to live in, like I told you, I used to live in LA and Santa Monica

busking was a Legal on the street and on the promenade so you could play some music and you know Panhandle and they wouldn't bug you and there was this guy that was there for years That was just you know homeless and lived like on the beach and he would just be there for years Wow And I was like, that's crazy. I'm impressed. Yeah there. That's nuts. You still taking the subway these days? I've been to crazy videos. No. It's not bad?

No way, yeah. Yeah, the city's crazy. And you probably get recognized. Oh yeah, mostly I don't want to get trapped on a train with people that are like, yelling Larry at me and being like, no. No, but it's, yeah, it's not very good. I don't find it only in New York.

I find like everywhere is a little weird. Really? Yeah, it's a little weird everywhere. Yeah, you get, you know, people are, you know, it's not a good time right now for a lot of people, so I think the streets aren't as safe as they used to be. And I always have, like, my radar up even more, when I'm, like, with the family and stuff. I've got my wife and my kids with me.

It's, like, a little different, but... Well, that's why comedy's so important right now. And that's why you guys are crushing the podcast scene. Yeah. Oh, my gosh, you guys get the most views out of every genre. I know it's so great to just be the escape, you know? Yeah.

It's great. Yeah, people made it, but yeah, shout out to guys like Theo and Schultz, they're just pulling massive numbers. So money, yeah. You're not, nobody's sneezed at you, you're doing pretty good yourself, pal. I'm doing all right.

I'm doing all right. You must be funny. Yeah. Not really, but. Oh yeah. You get some killer guest stuff. Yeah, I have some cool guests. Do you do your own reach out or how's it work?

Sometimes, yeah. At first, yeah, it was all me. Now I got a team. Now we're getting inbound. Oh, you get, that's when you know when people want to reach out to you to be on the clinic. But it was not like that the first year. Yeah.

Yeah, I had a grind. I know you got your own show too. How long? Yeah, I have two cool moms, me and Steve. And we didn't start doing guests right away because he's a comedian too, Steve Burns. So we just talked to BS and we filled up the 45 minutes or hour pretty easy.

And then we're like, oh, it'd be kind of fun to get another perspective in here. And then we had a lot of fun. We had Q on, of course we had Murr, Sal, and then we just had Colby Kalay on. It was really fun, like a different voice. Like, you know, she's a musician at Nashville. And then we get these different people,

like some bands and Red Clay Strays. And it's just like different people that have like, you tell your stories about like your mom too, or any of your family, and you hear about their upbringing and just different lives. You know, they were, the Red Clay Strays were Alabama, Bobo, Alabama, you know, and then it's me from New York

and Steve grew up in Jersey and Pittsburgh, you know, so it's like just a different meld and then you realize that the homes and the parents were kind of the same just in different states. That's why I love podcasting. You meet all sorts of characters. Wow, I've had some interesting ones on this show. Top three. Okay, top three, Philly Mob Boss. Okay, that was wild. Wow. One guy who remembered being a rock. In a past life. I was wild. Wow. Um, one guy who remembered being a rock in a past life. I'm sorry. I'm going to go talk to Matt, right?

That's just to bring it back. He remembered being a rock. So the rock had awareness and he, he, in his mind, the rock had a brain and was like, oh, okay, do you know the wheel? Not just a rock. He remembers all this past life. Really? Yeah.

He was a little cuckoo now. It depends who you ask. I had a spiritual side to me. So you believe the whole rock thing? I don't know if I believe the whole rock thing and the whole... But I believe in past lives. Okay. Past lives is fine. Yeah.

Being a rock though is really where I... That's where you loop it out of your... There you go. It's a place where the story starts to get some cracks. Every pun intended. So, okay, so he thought he was... Well, okay, past life, but he was, he put forward a good case?

Yeah, I mean, he was saying stuff about Atlantis, about the pyramids, yeah, interesting stuff. All right, that's cool. That's definitely a cool. Yeah, that was cool. And then, do you know Billy Carson? No. Ancient civilization expert?

No. Okay. I'm into like history, so I nerd out on that stuff. Oh, gotcha, that's a great conversation. But it's hard to pick, I've had 1,400. 1,400, so I'm just saying what comes to mind. Yeah, but I like that. When people say, what's your favorite movie? I don't go, let me see.

I just say whatever comes to my mind about that. My answer on that question has changed every person for my whole life. Yeah, right. Because I get asked that. Right now, it's The Departed. The Departed. Oh, okay.

That's a good one. That's a great one. What about you? What's on your mind? My favorite of all time always is Young Frankenstein. Mel Brooks, old school one. But then also Princess Bride's always up there for me. But I just saw the Ministry of Ungenuinely Warfare.

Okay. Which was Guy Ritchie's new one, which was unbelievable, Henry Cavill stars. And I recommend it to everybody. If you haven't seen it, it's a good one. I got it. But we were really, really just such a fun, interesting watcher. A history buff, you said?

I am. Gotta watch it. Yeah. Gotta watch it. I love that. Yeah, I'm into nerdy documentaries and stuff like that. Oh, I would've figured. Yeah.

I do, I feel like you're very intellectual. The whole thing you present them goes far. I'm decent. My IQ's decent. My dad's, holy shit. Yeah? Yeah, he was a dead-zones. Yeah, yeah.

But you don't wanna be that smart. No, no. I saw like what went on behind the scenes can never rest right you get in your own head Yeah, right. You can't turn it off, right? No. Yeah, that's why I like being just Like slightly above average. I feel like is the best. Yeah, you know, yeah slightly above slightly above So you okay, so you say you're slightly above I well I took a test So yeah, I guess the test on the. Who knows if that actually measures actual intelligence. Aren't you supposed to take it a couple of times

to see if you get the same number? Yeah, I should probably retake it. I think I've gotten dumber. With TikTok and everything. Yeah, everything like that. I know for a fact my attention span has gone down the drain. I mean, I can't even watch a movie now without going on my phone.

But you hold conversation well. I can hold, but that's like a conscious thing, I think. Okay, so here's an interesting thing that I'd like to ask you. Yeah. When you're outside the podcast studio and you're out and about, let's say you're at a club or with friends or just anywhere doing anything,

are you able to, when you're not running the conversation, you're able to engage as well? Yeah, if I'm interested. Okay. Yeah. Oh, so how quick do you lose interest? Quick. Depends on the topic of the person I'm with. Depends on the topic.

What about you? I dive in, man. I love it. I love being around a table with people. Okay, so you're not checking your phone at dinner. Really? Yeah, not really. Wow.

Yeah, I don't do that stuff. I think that's your generation though too. Part of partially my generation too, but I also have people in my generation that do that. Oh really? Yeah, like my wife's on the phone all the time. So it's infiltrated your era too? Yeah, it's made its way in.

It's such a big part of everything though, you know? A lot of it is, I think a big part is like when you run a business. So like, you know, my wife runs our dog rescue and she likes always like getting, you know, text messages about, hey, could you help this dog? Or hey, do you have this kind? So she's always like, I feel like when work invade your,

like that happened when I was on Joker, is like work invaded my phone. Now that I run my own kind of thing, I could be like, no, let's put this away for a minute. Yeah, that was why you left, right? Well, yeah, partially, you know, it was like a lot of personal stuff, but like one of the things was like,

one of the things I was able to redo was like, okay, I have a family, like let me get attention to dinner time. That's a good point though. That's why I actually got two phones. I ended up not even using the second one, but my thought process was let me have one personal and one business and that just didn't work out. Yeah, so my wife has two work lines,

but they're both on the same phone. So it was like, it kind of defeats the purpose, you know what I'm saying? But I think if work infiltrates your phone, it's way harder to put it down. And that's where I'm at since the show is kind of new and I got to get it going. But I think down the'm at since the show's kind of new and I gotta get it going. But I think down the road I'll branch off more.

Live like Tucker Carlson. He has no, what was it, no email or something? Or no phone, he only uses email. He only uses email. Yeah, and one of my guests is like that too, Graham Hancock. Oh, I threw this at the rock guy. No, no, no. It's grinded at gmail.com.

That wouldn't surprise me though. Oh no, but yeah, that's gotta be an interesting way to live. He pulled up with MapQuest printed out. My dad used to use MapQuest. Good old MapQuest. Amazing. And yeah, he was taking notes on MapQuest. I drove cross country using, I had a MapQuest.

So when I, in 2005, when I had to move back to New York, I had my car out in California and I asked all my friends, I was like, hey, I gotta drive my car back, I'm gonna take a road trip, take a, you know, it's gonna be like five days or whatever. And nobody answered me except Murray. So, Murray flies out to California and me and him take a road trip across country.

And this is before like GPS was really around, it's 2005. And I bought Microsoft Maps, it was a program that you plugged in a USB GPS thing and you put it on top of your car. So Murray was sitting shotgun with a laptop open. It was like an airplane and he was like on the map like looking. Oh, wow. And that's how we got, and I had a printed out MapQuest as a back, which is insane. And like we'd be in the middle of like nowhere Arizona and we would lose signal.

And I was like, what did it say? He's like, well, I remember saying go straight for like 120 miles. So I was like, how many miles have we gone, you know? I just like, what did it say? He was like, well, I remember it saying go straight for like 120 miles. So I was like, how many miles have we gone, you know? I was like, I don't know how our parents drove on MapQuest, man. I talk all the time about how insane it is. I'm like, you know what, from here, I want to drive to Chicago.

I put it in and I could go to Chicago. It's insane. It's just insane. So easy. Technology, yeah. Now when I drive without maps, I feel so lost. Yeah. You can be around the corner too. How do I get through?

I still use it to my studio for my house every day. I don't know if I could get here without, it's like a 20 minute drive. That's how it works. That's a challenge you gotta do tomorrow. Try to get here without him. I wanna see what happens, let me know. Yeah, I don't know how people drove,

especially across states like you did, across every state. Yeah, my dad used to drive us down to Florida. It's kind of a straight shot, but once you get into Florida, there's a lot of like, there's still a lot of, because this is, you know, it's a long state. So there's a lot of shoot-offs and stuff.

Yeah. My dad used to drive me and just be like, he remembered how to go after the first year he drove it. Yeah. That's insane. It's a blessing and a curse technology, man. Yeah. Cause you can look up stuff so fast now, like you don't even need to memorize stuff anymore.

Not at all. You just use AI actually. That's a big sign. Well, I have multiple thoughts about it. I don't personally use it. I will say that I got an awesome photo of me boxing Mike Tyson, somebody generated with AI.

And I got in, it was hysterical and I just sat on it for a while. And then I posted that I was gonna fight Mike Tyson and I tagged Hulu, the Bellagio and Mike Tyson saying, hey, I'm so excited. And everybody bought it. It got picked up actually by a couple of boxing sites, I swear.

It was like on Instagram and it was like one of my biggest hits, viral hits. It was so funny. And when I saw that picture, I was like, wow, this is pretty impressive that it could do something like this. It's getting good. And, you know, but as far as like people like,

oh, you could make it write a whole script. And then, you know, but as far as like people like, oh, you could make it write a whole script. And then, you know, you just sell a prompt or whatever. And then you read those scripts and then you're like, yeah, but there's no human to that. You know, you need humans still in some stuff, you know? Yeah, it takes away the art of script writing, right? Yeah, I think it takes away the art in a lot of things. It takes away the human from a lot of it.

Look, some stuff, yeah, for sure. Like if I need to write, I need a factual report about something and it can give me a breakdown quickly. That's great. That's technology That's growth. I use it for itinerary planning. So if I'm going to New City, it'll recommend restaurants as that's that's perfect That's fantastic saves me time because if you individually look up everything it would take like a bunch of time Do you like the fun of being like hey, I want a pancake and I'm like here I'm here in Cleveland. Let me find a Cleveland pancake and you just uh, I used to yeah, but now I'm way too healthy

Oh, really? Yeah. Okay, so I didn't mean that the way you look, I just, you said it so indignantly. No, I felt like you were judging me actually. No, I used to eat out a lot, but now that I know about seed oils and all this health stuff, you know.

Oh, gotcha. So what kind of, do you have like a diet you're on or something or? Or you just stay with. It's like whole foods, you know? Yeah, yeah. I prefer like organic, grass-fed meat. I know you're vegetarian.

Yeah, I'm vegetarian. Pescatarian, I eat fish. But you eat high quality vegetables. Yes. Or organic, right? Yes, for the most part, yeah. The other stuff, pesticides. It's hard, like how much of it do you believe though?

That's a good question. There's a lot of just marketing, right? Because who knows if it's actually organic. There's no proof. It's not the organic. I just think there's some, that's when you do the research on companies and see how much integrity they have.

Some that have been around for a while, I feel like they're a little bit more about it. I mean, I love burgers and pizza, so I'll have a cheat meal once in a while. Love me some In-N-Out. Oh, that's In-N-Out, huh? Nice, I haven't had an In-N-Out in a long time. But dude, that was a good burger.

My wife, it's still her favorite. Whenever she's West Coast and could get one, she doesn't eat meat either. She's straight vegetarian. And she'll just get the packets in like lettuce and that's it. And just have like their grilled cheese version, you know? It's hard to beat.

And she'll love it. It's hard to beat. You're from New York though, so Shake Shack is big out there. Shake Shack is, but I never took to it. Really? Yeah, I never took to it. You weren't a fan? I liked Five Guys a is big out there. Shake Shack is, but I never took to it. Really? Yeah, I never took to it. You weren't a fan. I liked Five Guys a lot.

Five Guys. Yeah, I liked Five Guys a lot. When I was eating meat, I liked Five Guys for a burger. But when the Impossible Whopper came and I was able to get that, like because being on the road is a comic, late night's tough. Yeah, not many options.

Yeah, you get out of your late show, you're after the meat and greet, you get out, it's like 10.30, 10 o'clock, you haven't had something to eat yet. You got, what do you got? You got Burger King, you got a local Denny's, you know, something like that. So figure out what you get.

But that once I got that Impossible Whopper, like it was the only vegetarian sandwich really that you can get. I used to eat Impossible Meat. It tastes good, I'll give it that. Yeah, it really texture wise, I was like super impressed by it. It was actually this new vegan steak company marbled.

It's called, and it's like filet mignon's and it's unbelievable the way it cooks and everything. Yeah, it's really, really cool. It was like one of the things I was like, oh, this is something different. Cause I think a lot of other companies tried and didn't do it as well. Did you switch for health reasons

or the animal cruelty reasons? I met a cow named Caesar. No, you didn't. An 800 pound cow at Woodstock Farms. It's up in upstate New York. And they do this thing called Thanks Living where you feed the turkeys. You go up to their farm

and you feed the turkeys on Thanksgiving, like around there. So my wife was like, hey, we should go to this. We went. And they give you a tour of the facility and this 800 pound cow Caesar comes walking out of the barn. I'm like looking at it, you know, it's like seven feet tall. Comes over, it's like, wow.

And it just walked right up to me. And I just like rubbed his nose on it, put his head down. And I like pet it like a dog and I was like, oh my God, this is unbelievable. And I just like, I wasn't eating that much meat at that time anyway, my wife was already vegetarian and I did all the cooking, she didn't cook, so I wasn't making steaks.

I was like, you know what, let me try to be vegetarian for a minute. So I did it and it stuck. The only thing I really missed was buffalo wings, a good brujute and mozzarella sandwich, that kind of stuff, like those little things. But overall, like there's good options, good enough options that you could get around it.

And then I saw, I went full vegan for nine months. Damn, that's intense. That was intense, but it was the healthiest I ever felt. Wow. Yeah, really good. And that was in, I saw the documentary Game Changers. Game Changers. Game Changers. That's like a vegan diet. But a lot of things didn't hit with me,

but what hit with me was, I don't have the best track record when it comes to eating. So like, I think I've damaged probably a lot of my body with the sweets and the meats and everything. So it showed like the science about like how you could regain some time and whatnot. I was like, let me try it. I tried the first, loved it. I did it one let me try it. I tried the first loved it.

I did one month, did two months and then I got up to nine. I was like, I need some, I need some salmon. Yeah. Yeah. It's hard man to get that many calories. Sure. You did eat 32,000 calories in a day though, right? It was delicious.

That could, that cheesecake was the best man. It was a whole cheesecake. Well, that wasn't me. Oh, that wasn't you? Oh, that was a DiStefano. I was on that podcast with him and he told that story, but, uh, I, I almost hate a full, so we had to break between two bits on jokers and I, you see me have like a sugar crush on TV.

It was really funny actually, but I, uh, I had this huge piece of cheesecake and we were in between, I just eat it. And Mer's out there doing a turn and I start like getting dizzy or whatever. I was like, and I was like, oh, but I know what it was. I was like, I'm just, I'm coming down off this sugar rush too hard. And Murr's turn is going on, but it's really good.

So the three of us are in the back and I'm like, you know what, just bring the medic and I'll just sit in the back and cheer him on. So me and this salad queue are just there by themselves that I'm in the back being like, get him, I'll go into the light. Like, and we did a lot of jokes. I was like, we'll never have this opportunity to do something like this again, which is really funny.

So that was one thing that people were like, wow, I can't believe how much sweets you eat. And I was like, yeah, me neither. That was right about the time when I was like, I gotta start changing now. Should we take going to the dentist? They found like seven gavities on me last time. Really?

I got a sweet tooth. You do? Yeah. But you don't eat bad. You eat well, I mean. I do have a sweet tooth though. I eat well food wise. Desserts get you. Desserts get me.

Love that. Love that about you. That's why we connect. Yeah. Oh man. I mean, desserts, just so much happiness. It's so great. Childhood memories. That was the best.

It unlocks like a side of me. But I think there's something about like sharing desserts with friends and it's like a party, right? Like that's the, it's the part of the meal everybody gets excited about. You know, I'll be like, check out these appetizers, you know, and we were like, bring on the cupcakes. Plus my fiance's a baker,

so that doesn't help to cook some amazing desserts. Well, where do you live? Oh. Oh. So she makes, does she do desserts at home? Yeah. She's a baker by trade. She does like.

She doesn't sell it. She just bakes for me. God. And sometimes the studio. Oh, I love that. That's nice. But you didn't do it today. Not today. Today would have been a baker by trade. She does like. She doesn't sell it. She just bakes for me. God. And sometimes the studio. Oh, I love that. That's nice. But you didn't do it today.

Not today. Today would have been a good day actually. I should have had her made some canola. Yes. What's her name? Ariel. Ariel. Next time.

I'll have some cannolis ready for you next time, man. That's cool to be married to a baker though, right? Yeah. That's good. That's good that you didn't do it for a job though, because then you never get anything. No. Nobody wants to bake at home if they're baking at work. That's a tough living, man. Yeah? Yeah. But shout wants to bake at home if they're baking at work. That's a tough living man.

Yeah? Yeah, but shout out to her. I love coming home to all sorts of creative. The house gotta smell fantastic. Fantastic. We got a garden too. Oh, do you? Yeah.

You got it all going on. Yeah, yeah, we plant basil and mint and everything. Nice, so you're a chef too, right? Yeah, I like to cook. I wouldn't call myself a chef. I represent when it comes to around the stove. What's your go-to dish? I do a good teriyaki salmon with pineapple rice. I have to, I like plant Parmesan's pretty good.

My baked zivi's okay. I do a vegetable lasagna I tried a couple of times which went well. So you love pasta. It's all mostly Italian stuff, yeah. But my kids actually love like a noodle dish. So I'll do like a lo mein kind of, you know, or udon-y kind of thing with them,

which sometimes I like some spinach and shrimp and stuff, like a vegetable-y kind of thing. My daughter's pescatarian too. My son is still vegetarian. Wow, the whole fam is either vegetarian or pescatarian. That's impressive. Yeah, my daughter just does a little bit of like, she does the same fish as I do.

She likes a baked clam, salmon. She gave up on shrimp. Something most, she must've had it like a bed of shrimp she didn't like, but she used to love shrimp, but she's not deep in that. But she likes like, she'll try everything. She's pretty adventurous. She's nine, he's seven, and now he's just like getting into it a little bit.

So you big on sushi? I love good sushi. Love me some sushi. Oh man, yeah, I crush a boat. I love the boats. I just bring me a boat. I love it. Hold all you want?

I'll bring it by myself with friends. But I love going out and just like telling them to bring it. We were in LA last night, and I went out with a bunch of friends. And I said, let's just tell them to bring out friends. But I love going out and just like telling them to bring it. We went, we were in LA last night and I went out with a bunch of friends and I said, let's just, let's just tell them to bring out stuff. And I love that. Yeah. Cause you get stuff you're not really ever going to try, you know? Agree.

My favorite memories in LA, we got a boat. We accidentally ordered two. No. So we were all full after the first one. Oh my goodness. You like that they didn't bring out the Santa Maria. So we all started chatting one more each. I think like five of us puked that up.

Oh my goodness. Those boats are 200 pieces. Because you don't even realize like there are multiple layers and things. Oh my gosh. That was way too much sushi. Is that your go-to food type? Like if you were to go out.

Yeah, if I had to eat one cuisine the rest of my life, it would be Japanese. Really? Yeah, cause you got sushi, curry, and their food's kind of light. 100%. So you're not like heavy. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm pretty close.

Italian just edges out Japanese. Really? Yeah. On the road, my two go-to was like, all right, let's find the place, the Japanese place in town or the Italian place in town. Okay. What's better, but I love Japanese. I mean, I love Italian,

but just sometimes I'm too heavy after. Yeah. There's a lot of grain. Well, I mean, if you, I don't eat the meat stuff. So my sauces are always a little bit lighter. You know, they're just like tomato sauce normally. And the pastas, they can get heavy if you eat too much of it. But the way I lost a lot of my weight was I stopped eating half.

Like, I don't know if like ever you'd done that, but I was like, portion control is so huge. Like, you don't realize like you're like, you've raised to be like, finish your plate. You know what I mean? It's like, but I ate half the sandwich and I would just stop and be like, oh, I'm full. I'm not gonna eat this half, I'll just save it for later.

And I just dropped LBs like, damn, very quick. Yeah, cause you can eat mindlessly. Mindlessly, completely. You finish eating and you're like, I feel disgusting. And you're like, I was so hungry. Especially when I'm watching videos, I'll be just eating until the video ends. Like it doesn't even matter if I'm full,

like I don't even notice. Yeah, it's like popcorn in the movie, right? Yeah, I get the whole thing. No matter what size you got, right? If you get the small one, you eat the whole thing, you're like, oh, I'm full. You get the medium, you get the large bucket, you eat the whole thing.

You don't realize it's mindless. That's the perfect word. They do a great job with that. They get you. That butter, damn it. Then they started the seasonings. They started the little- Their seasoning style?

Yeah, dude, you're ganging up on your movie. Popcorn game, brother. Yeah, they got the little packets you could like make like Cinnabon and like all this fun and salt shaker. I don't go to the theater as much as I used to. I used to love it. You did it. You gotta go.

I mean, now we got Netflix, Hulu. It's the only way to watch your movie. It is right now on Peacock, all sorts of platforms. You gotta get out there and laugh with people, get scared with people. It's the only way to see a movie. It's funny, because I went to Ricky's The Nikki, it was a movie, I went to the premiere of it,

and I saw it in the theater, and I was like, oh, this is so fun, it was such a great experience. And I turned it on at home, and it wasn't nearly as funny to me. And I was like, I really, the crowd really brought a different energy to it. That's a good point, though. Yeah, it's like laughing with people.

I didn't think of it that way, but you're so right, because the energy of the room. I mean, you still, one of the most epic videos ever is the moment in The Avengers, you know, and when they show the video of the person who was in the movie theater and video of the moment of in The Avengers movie when the team get together. And the place explodes when, you know,

Captain America picks up the hammer. And it's like, to see the video of that is like, wow, that is insane, wow, that is insane. That piece of art can move a room full of people to insanity, like it's a rock concert. It was crazy. You know what I mean? If you could be any Avenger, would you be and why?

What makes you think I'm not, first of all, defense of that. I probably would be, I would probably go with Black Widow because I would look great in that. Wow. But yeah. No, I think it's the most,

I think being able to handle yourself with fisticuffs would be the most important thing out of all of it. Because I mean, you could say I'd be Iron Man and stuff, but then I need to shoot, I don't have my own heart. That's weird. Yeah, it seems annoying. Yeah, it seems a little bit annoying. I mean, the Thor, Thor's a tough one to beat though,

because I, yeah, you know, or is he a flat? you never deal with traffic. He's just flying all over the place. I'm gonna go Doctor Strange for me. Oh, that's a great one. Yeah, yeah, it's a great time travel. Yeah. Teleport. You could move around.

Yeah. That's great. Yeah. For me, that's some major plot holes I've been with because of his powers, you know, like, Yeah, once they started time travel. Yeah, a lot of that. That's with any series. That's right, too. Once time travel,

You're right, once time travel comes into, besides Back to the of that. That's with any series. That's right, too. Once time travel comes. You're right, once time travel comes in, besides Back to the Future in which it's based. Yeah. Oh yeah, but then death doesn't matter once time travel is introduced. So then death loses its meaning, you know? Cause now these superheroes will die,

like what happened in Avengers, but they're still alive in the next movie. Yeah, we'll bring them back. Different dimension. Yeah, different guy. I still love Marvel though. Marvel's great. It makes you feel like.

You see the new Captain America yet? No, how was that? I didn't see it yet. It comes out this weekend, I think. So, no, the premiere was Tuesday. I didn't see it. It comes out this weekend. I'm looking forward to it. I think they're gonna come back with this new next batch.

I think they'll get a little bit more focused with it. I think they'll try to stay away from that multiversity thing that confused people. Yeah. What's your genre of choice? What do you gravitate towards when you watch movies? Action comedy. Action comedy. Yeah, I like action comedy, but I mean, comedy for sure.

Horror, I've dipped into hard now too. I love good horror. I think there's a lot of great horrors going on too, which is fun, but there's a lot of horrors that masquerade as comedy, which is fun. That's true. You know, comedies that masquerade as horror rather. And I think that's pretty cool too.

You know, there's a lot of comedic actors and filmmakers that are making horror. You know, there's a lot of comedic actors and filmmakers that are making horror. You know, Jordan Peele, Krasinski, and you have some really fun titles. Peele crushes his movies, man. It's just so like thought-provoking. I love movies like that.

Is horror your genre of choice or no? Used to be, now it's more thriller, mystery. Total mystery. Yeah. Horror just gave me too many nightmares, man. It was impacting me too much. Oh, really? Yeah, you don't get nightmares from horror movies?

No. What? No, no. Do you remember your dreams? much. Oh, really? Yeah. You don't get nightmares from horror movies? No. What? No, no. Do you remember your dreams? Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's impressive. How do you shut it off? I don't know.

I don't sleep much. Okay. Yeah. So I think where it's at. Yeah. That works. They are giving myself enough time. It's scared.

Uh, yeah, I do. I, you know, I just, actually, that's so funny. I had a nightmare the other night. I called my wife cause I was, I had a dream that my daughter was yelling for me. And I was in LA and she's in New York and I rolled over and it was 4.45 and then we're here in LA. So it was like, they're getting ready for school. And I called, I said, I said, where's my, where's she okay?

And she's like, yeah, what are you talking about? Like she's in school already. She had an early thing. I was like, oh, I said, I just had a dream that she was screaming. And that was like the only nightmare I have. I don't, I don't have nightmares. I don't think I've ever had nightmares with monsters or ghosts or anything like that.

I think I had a recurring one. Like I think everybody has it after they graduate college about, you forgot your final paper or even that whole thing. So I had that one for a while, but for the most part, I really don't have many nightmares. Yeah, I've had the test taking one. I've had the naked in class one.

Oh, have you? It sucks. Yeah, I'm surprised you haven't had any. Wow. Yeah. Do you believe in ghosts and like dark one. Oh, have you? It sucks, yeah. I'm surprised you haven't had any, wow. Yeah. Do you believe in ghosts and like dark stuff like that? Yeah, for the most, yeah. I don't necessarily think it's like, ooh,

like there's a woman in like a white dress with like glass eyes, there you see it, on the staircase or something like that. I don't think that's real. But I think for the most part, there's a little bit of truth to the beyond, you know? I think like, I think spirits happen and go on. I've had a couple of experiences like when my dad, when my dad died and my mom died, where I think you, I think spirits happen and go on. I've had a couple of experiences like when my dad,

when my dad died and my mom died. I think you, they get to reach out for a little bit before they just go, I think they're given that. Yeah, yeah. I've had dead people appear in my dreams. It makes me wonder if like that's their spirit sometimes. Oh. How's that happen to you?

No, it was a pirate captain once. I didn't have any pirate captains in my family could see that that's pretty cool. So you've had people that died show up in your dream in my dreams I've only dreamt a couple times of my mom and dad. Okay, and They'd always been happy and alive in them But they always my dad for a long time and dream of him for a while And then I dreamt from for like like a couple months in a row. And that was awesome. It was like, I hadn't seen him, you know, that kind of thing, which is cool.

It's crazy. So I don't know, maybe he got like a, he got like a hall pass for a little bit. Or hang out for a little bit. I don't know. But it was, it was interesting to think of it that way. I don't really dream of dead relatives. Do you dream of? Not often.

Not often. But it's happened. My dad passed too and he's been in my dreams. Once I was in his dream, that was wild. So I don't know's happened. My dad passed too and he's been in my dreams. Once I was in his dream, that was wild. So I don't know what happened there. How old was he? How old were you when you passed?

I was, it was two years ago, so I was 25. Oh, all right. Sorry about that. But yeah, I was in his dream. That was like super weird. You were in his dream? Yeah. He was showing me his dream.

Wow. That nuts. That is some onion layered fucking craziness, dude. That's like that movie with the... Oh yeah, Inception? Yeah, Inception. That's a good one. Oh dude, that ending made me just want to punch myself in the face. I had no idea.

When it's hard to dissect how it all went apart. That's how I fell with Shutter Island too. Shutter Island? That one messed me up for a week. I'm gonna go old school for you. If you haven't seen, if you like a thriller, Memento. I've heard of it. If I need to watch it, that's a good one. No, if you're thinking about like a good thriller and you like that kind of inception-y kind of thing, Memento is fantastic. heard of it. If I need to watch it, that's a good one. No, if you're thinking about like a good thriller

and you like that kind of inception-y kind of thing. Okay. Memento is fantastic. Yeah, I like stuff that makes you think. Yeah, that's a thinker. Because when I can predict the end, it's a turn off. I don't even, I'll be watching a movie and I'll be sitting down and I'll go,

oh, come on, am I watching? I go, don't tell me, don't tell me. She'll know I've gotten. I was like, and then I'll just sit there like, you don't know what's in yet? You don't have it? Like that kind of thing. So you're intuitive. I'm pretty intuitive.

That's cool, man. Yeah, for sure. I love that. You'd be good on this show I'm watching now called The Traders. I've heard about it. I haven't watched it. It's a reality show.

I don't watch much reality TV. I usually don't, but this is skill-based. Yeah. Yeah. Did you hear about this other one that there's people, the escape where your family could take you out off the island by pushing the button? Oh yeah, I've heard of it.

I forgot the name of it. It was on, they were showing a million commercials during the shoot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Extraction. Extraction. Yeah, yeah, that was, that looked really weird. It was like, it's basically survivor and you want to leave

but your family has the same, if it's okay or not. It's like, what? It's like, I'm the one on this island getting bit by snakes, pull me out. Oh, I'd hate that. My mom would pull us just so fast, you know? Right out. If you could go on any reality TV show,

what would it be? That's a good question. I mean, I would love like game show stuff. Yeah. Like game shows are so fun. I've been fortunate enough to go on. We did the Misery Index, which is great. But I was on a $100,000 pyramid with a straight hand,

which is fun. But Hollywood Squares looks like so much fun, right? Yeah, that looks like a good one. That looks like a really fun one. I think game show stuff would be fun. As far as reality stuff, I don't think. Survivor, Amazing Race. The Bachelorette would be funny.

That would be funny. I'm married. Wife and Lady. Yeah, but just for the stories, I think it'd be fun. No, I think just to be part of that, because you can't help but, for me when I watch those shows, like you can't help but,

my wife watches them and loves them, and I got sucked in, of course. But I like when you watch those shows, like you can't help but my wife watches them and loves them. And I got sucked in of course. But I like when you watch those shows, like the Bachelor, the Bachelorette, when you just see them and you see like the people in the room, like do they understand like what's going on right now kind of thing?

It's like a group mind mentality that nobody really understands how crazy all of it is. I would like to just be part of that. Not about the whole love thing, but just to see what the living in a house with all these people, what that does to you. Yeah, it would mess me up, I think. Yeah, for sure.

They're all on the, same with Big Brother, they're all in one house. One house. Yes. Yeah, have you seen that? Love Island, right? Love Island. What's the one Nikki Glaser, was that,

oh, Nikki Glaser was Love Island, right? Yeah, I think Love Island. Yeah, dating ones are wild, man. Some of the dating ones are, yeah, insanity. Yeah. But Survivor, I mean, that's just, I can't imagine, I don't even know how they made that first one. It was like, here's the idea.

We just drop a bunch of people off on an island and they just gotta live. Like it is like, great, let's do it. It's insane. And it's in, it's like 900 season or something, you know what I mean? I wish it was like, it's 40 days. So I wanna go on that show, but 40 days, I mean.

That's 40 days a month. You can't even drive here by yourself without the phone. I know. We got no phone. 40 days. You mean that's 40 days a month. You can't even drive here by yourself without the I know Got no phone already do you get walking around the islands? It's like how do I get to anybody? Where like put that coconut? I Would be so messed up trouble. Yeah, I'm actually thinking about a dopamine detox. Have you heard of those? No, so you don't you like put your phone in like a corner and you don't use it for like three days Really? Yeah, anything that gives you dopamine. So like phone, electronics,

but dopamine is good, isn't it? Yeah. But we're so over, you're over doped right now. Yeah. Everyone's over doped overdoped. So it gets even crazier. That's a term. No, it is.

That's merch for you. Oh yeah. Overdoped. Yeah. We should trade. No, no, people go in dark caves. Really? Five days.

It's like a dark cave dopamine detox. Do you think that is anything? I don't know. It's pitch black and you're there for five days. That's, you got problems. You sure? Five, that's not right. That's not right.

That's not how you're supposed to live. Yeah. Like you gotta, that's wrong. Like, yeah. First of all, who owns the cave? Who makes the balls this? He's got a pretty mother. Yeah, there you go.

That's what I'm saying. It's a business. Well, you could prey on people's insecurities. So like you say, it's a spiritual awakening or whatever you want to word it, you know. Have you ever been called to do something like that? A spiritual awakening? Have I ever been?

I went to Fargo, North Dakota. No, a spiritual awakening, no. I'm pretty in tune with all that stuff. I have a pretty good handle on that. I'm pretty honest with myself, I think. And honest with other people too. But I think when I had separated from my wife for a minute, I think that was the first time I lived alone

in my whole life. Wow. I was always with a family or had roommates or whatever. And then I was like 40, what was that, 47, 46. That was the first time you lived alone. Sitting by myself in a two bedroom apartment. What the hell happened? And that was like, that's my dark cave.

Yeah. You know, I was just sitting there like, all right. So now I think that was a part where it really made me get in touch with, you know, analyzing hard, getting a plan together, how to fix it all, grieving, you know, rejoicing, trying to figure it all out, you know. Did you take some psychedelics? I didn't take any.

Yeah, I didn't. People, you know, said I've never taken a drug, tried a cigarette or even been drunk in my life. Wow. Yeah, so people were like, oh, you should try that to open your mind. I was like, I don't know what the hell that's gonna do to me this morning in my life.

I've seen bad trips. I have too. Yeah. You know, I've seen good ones too. I've been around people with good ones, but I've seen something that's gone wrong. And I was like, it's not worth it for me. It's a coin toss.

Yeah. I wish it was a little more controlled. Do you do psychedelics though? I do. Yeah. I microdose. Microdose. Yeah.

I've done a full trip in eight years. I don't think I'd do a full trip or none. You've done a full trip is when you take a lot. Was the last full trip bad? No, but I got what I needed out of it. You know, this is why you need your dopamine, Kate. So if you microdose, you is why you need your dopamine gate. So if you micro dose your, your micro dopamine thing though, aren't you too technically?

Yeah. Yeah. So maybe, maybe you try not to micro dose and keep you falling in your pocket. Yeah. There's worse things. If you, I know for sure. But if you went, if you did that dopamine thing, would you stop microdosing? Because that now it's kind of regulating you, isn't it?

Yeah. It would offset it. Maybe. I don't know. I don't microdose too often. Gotcha. Yeah. Just you, isn't it? Yeah, it would offset it, maybe. I don't know. I don't microdose too often. Gotcha. Yeah, just when I haven't. I have a couple of friends that do it.

Yeah, they do it. Mushrooms, right? Yeah, mushrooms, yeah. Microdoses, I have a good friend of mine that does it. Yeah, because you're not tripping. You're not seeing anything. You're just feeling good. I could see the difference in him too.

Really? Yeah. Oh, wow. So it made him better? Yeah, it made him better. Yeah, like he made, he just calmer. He had like an frantic energy about him, but not a bad one, but it was just very, you know, and then when he's on and it was like, oh, okay.

Definitely helps with anxiety, man. Sure. I think it's probably all connected, right? Anxiety makes you frantic. I had some terrible anxiety in college, dude. Did you? Yeah, awful. Where'd you go to school?

Rutgers. Oh. Yeah, good old Rutgers. New Brunswick campus, nice. And it was not that up there. Oh yeah, it was up there. I did, I accepted it. It was one of my three that I was gonna go to. What'd you choose?

I ended up with, the college that's like right around the corner from my house, out on Long Island. Okay. Host. Long Island University. I had heard of that one. Yeah, I went, it was a coin toss. I was gonna do Rutgers, but I was out of state. So, yeah, it's like 20K or whatever.

Yeah, so I was like, you know what, I'll just go here. My sister was out of that school, so I got to like 20 K or what? Yeah. So I was like, I was like, you know, I'll just go here. My sister was out of that school. So I got to go to, which is pretty cool. She was a senior. I was a freshman. So I had somebody who was there. I didn't learn much there, man. No social, right?

That social. It's all social skills, I think. No, for sure. That was the biggest thing I learned. So it was a big takeaway. I think it makes you grow. It makes you a grown up. Yeah.

Absolutely. Well, Joe, where are your next shows? Where can people keep up with you, man? JoeGadotOfficial.com gives you all the places where I'll be. I don't know when this is coming out, but I'm touring through June. I'm coming probably to a city close enough to you.

Come around. And then on Instagram, it's at Joe underscore Gatto. And that's where. Awesome. Thanks for helping out, man. This has been so fun. Thank you. Check them out, guys. See you next time.