Digital Social Hour - Making a Living off of Sports Betting I Bill Krackomberger DSH #410

Episode Date: April 13, 2024

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Big game this week, like almost its own Super Bowl. And why do you favor those lower-key schools? Not a lot of eyeballs on them. The bookmaker cannot get the line right. Aren't they using AI, though, these days? They're getting into that a little bit, but there's still good old-fashioned bookmaking that goes on. You know, it's funny. If you're down by 14 points and you get a touchdown, you should go for two. And everyone at home is just like, this is fixed! This is fixed! That's the biggest letter.

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Thank you guys for supporting, and here's the episode. Ladies and gentlemen, professional sports bettor, Bill Krakenberger here today. How's it going? Good. How you doing? All right. Good, man. How did we meet? Forget. We met. Didn't we meet here through John?

We did. Yeah. Dude, the sports betting world fascinates me because there's a lot of people making some crazy claims, but you seem to be one of those guys that have been around for a while. There is crazy claims, and I kind of go after those guys almost every day. Yeah.

Because I feel bad for the kids at home that are getting influenced by influencers that talk s***. I usually don't curse on shows, sorry. You're good. Yeah, I just can't stand these kids. People are showing piles of money at casino cages I see all the time. I filmed a show called Action on Showtime, a docuseries. They wanted me to do that.

Like, oh, can you bring $100,000 to the window? No, no. That's not who I am. I always say it on all shows. I drive a Kia. I can go out and get a Rolls Royce if I want tomorrow cash. I don't do that, though. It's not the kind of image I want to give off to people.

I want people to know how hard it is to grind away and try to make money betting sports. We have, just like my blackjack card counting, I have a 1-2% edge. 2% is giant, so 1% edge. Sports betting, 3%, 5%, maybe at the peaks of certain sports like college basketball totals. College football season this year was incredible, so something like that. But it's not what all these people think. You want to give out one game a day. The things they give out, it's like, you know how lucky you have to run to give out even one game a day and win, even if you're a 58% handicapper?

It doesn't matter. You're going to fail throughout the year without giving out volume and a lot of plays and a lot of – because it's not just the win one game. There's all these frauds out there that say, oh, win one game. Oh, next game, we're going to double up this game, and we're going to triple up one game. There's all these frauds out there that say, oh, win one game. Oh, next game, we're going to double up this game, and we're going to triple up this game. Hey, look, I made money with you. Look, I went one and two, and I made money with you.

Yeah, sure, you had eight units in play, seven units in play. There's so many scammers out there, and these kids, they're gullible. All they do is see money, and they just say, oh, my God, how did they get all that money? You got all the money from scamming people. That's how he got all the money. So, uh, but they're all out there. The Charlatans, the snake oil salesmen. Um, I, you know, people get influenced real easy and you know what? I was a losing player. I was a loser. Everyone was, but I admit it. I was a loser before I was a winner. And I was a sucker. I grew up back East. I was betting stuff that, you know, just doubling up and tripling up and watching TV and watching every game on every TV. And by the end of the day, if I didn't win, I was betting it all to try to get even just for the day. Yeah. Just like the casinos survive. How do you think these casinos survive? People play and say, God, let me just get even. If I just get even, I won't gamble no more.

And then what happens? They're out there two days later because they're dreaming of it at nighttime and say, I've got to get back in action. Yeah. And it's a long season. It's a grinded-out season, and that's what I do. That's what we do. Now, yes, i did join the pick

selling game and i can't stand house most of them were just all liars so i did join that that sleazy services that are out there i don't even talk about it and i'm not going to give it out on this show i'm not even giving it out my pick service because that's not why i'm here but i know people will say that well are you part of that sprint? Listen, I win, obviously. The rest of my customers will scream at me and go crazy at me on socials. But it's a long game. It's a grind out type of thing. I have months where I went like, I had some sick, sick months where I went like 70%, 75% actually.

I remember one month two years ago in college basketball season, and people were mad. They were mad? Yeah, they were like, you know, even going 6-4, like, oh, 6-4? Oh, I can do that. Over long periods of time, you can't do that. You're not going to hit 60%. You don't see many guys in your space that last over 10 years. Oh, I've been

making a living betting sports and paying taxes. That's the most important thing. Paying taxes on sports betting when quarterly estimated tax just made a giant one a couple days ago. That's the most important thing. Paying taxes on sports betting when quarterly estimated tax just made a giant one a couple days ago. That's how you know you're doing well. I've been doing that for 25 years. You're paying taxes. Yeah, because most of these guys probably just don't even Yeah, I'm not going after them for not

or whatever. They probably have leaks other places they lose. You could only write off as much as you win. You can't write off more. So even I have win-loss reports from casinos because I do play video poker. I play promotions. I play buy-in promotions where you put money up and they give you money to come in. I was just up in San Fran. They had a bunch of guys here in town. They sent a private jet, a G5, for a bunch of us. And I put up a large amount of

money and they gave me $5,000 to walk in. So they gave me $5,000 to walk in. Wow. So they gave me $5,000 to walk in thinking they could potentially get that six-figure deposit that I made, and I lost. I actually wound up losing $9,000. But I had a $5,000 head start, but they had no shot to get $100,000 off me. Yeah. It's giving the image or the allure that I'm going to have a chance at my money if I was the average Joe that literally couldn't control myself under the guise of bankroll management because you just want to get even, you know, like I said before. So I do better professionally for a living. And yeah, I'm doing a lot of media stuff now too. That's very nice. And it pays very well. I'm making a healthy six figures a year with media, which I'm like,

that was never supposed to happen. You know, I had old fashioned parents were like, Billy, be careful. Don't say the wrong things. Mom, I'm betting sports. I'm not a bookmaker. I'm not an agent. I'm not a, I'm just betting sports. So now it's fashionable. Everyone wants to do, I am doing, I'm in the media space, but luckily enough, these people that are in the sports betting media space for the most part, if they lost that media job, they lost that sports betting talk host job, I don't know what they'd be able to do. Mop floors?

What would they be able to do? I mean, me, I could just go back to betting sports. Yeah. You got a safety net. Yeah. But speaking of safety nets, a lot of people see sports betting as a high-risk endeavor, like a high-risk lifestyle.

Do you see it that way at all? As long as you stay within your skill sets that you learned, like myself, number one, percentage of bankroll, only betting 1% to 2% of your bankroll. And that sounds funny probably. Let's say you have a lot. By the way, it's not your bankroll for your bills and everything. It's your sports betting allotted bankroll. It has to be the bankroll just for sports betting, not to go to the movies or dinner with your girl, not for any household bills.

That bankroll, 1% to 2%, it's nothing. If you think about it, someone starts with $1,000. You know what you're supposed to bet? $10. Oh, that's it? $10 to $20. Wow. 1% to 2%.

That's all. Now, that's going to grow. So 1% to 2%, if you're a winning sports bettor, betting $20 at a time at the end of the day, let's say you have $1,100. Well, now that $1,100, you're actually going to bet $22 per game. Got it. Compound. And it's going to go up more and more and more as you win. And what do you think I started with? I started with $1,000. That's it? $1,000, 1993, 94, sent $500 to two sports books they doubled my deposits

that's a big money making thing too so you could deposit with these places even all these licensed places in the states you see the bonuses they offer and stuff so I literally started with $500, two different sports books they doubled my deposits, $1,000 and $1,000 you have to roll it over multiple times

but that was my goal anyway and literally I've made tons and tons of money since then. Wow. But you mentioned you were losing at first, right? Not then. I was losing at first when I was a, when I was a kid in my teens, even into early twenties. I grew up on a Jersey shore. I worked in a boardwalk. I was a, I was working. I worked at literally my aunt and uncle's pizza stand. Was that in Seaside? It's about 25 miles north of Seaside. Cool. Yeah.

I grew up in Jersey. I went to Seaside a lot. Oh, did you? Yeah. What part of Jersey did you grow up? Bridgewater. Oh, yeah. I can't even.

Guys like us, I grew up in a blue-collar town. Bridgewater, like Bridgewater Commons and stuff. We wouldn't even go over there. You guys are rich. We grew up poor. I grew up in a little town called Kingsburg, New Jersey. Monmouth County exit 117 on the parkway. Oh wait, Kingsburg? Kingsburg. Oh. Blue collar. It's Monmouth County. Like Hazlitt, Union Beach, Red Bank. Those are middle town. Those areas there. And a very blue collar, hardworking, good people though. Good solid family

based people. Yeah. But the town I grew up in was a gambling town. Everyone gambled, even literally pitching quarters behind the post office when I was a kid. And I come from, my mother was Italian. I come from her family. They were all gamblers. My uncles, my Italian uncles, they would all come over. My father was a country boy from Ohio and he was corrupted by them. I say corrupted. And that's how we learned gambling. And our gambling in our house, how is like Thanksgiving and stuff. Literally Thanksgiving night, when the kids went to bed, the adults broke out the cards and the guys played pinochle and the ladies played gin or continental rummy. And it was for money, for pennies and dimes. It was not cutthroat,

but it was fun stuff. But however, for us little wise guy kids that are in the family, we all thought we wanted to be gamblers now for a living. And literally I used to work so hard. That boardwalk town, so many games. I'm sorry, so many jobs I had. I had a lot of jobs when I was a kid. And I would blow the money at the racetrack. I would make money in blackjack because my cousin taught me card counting

at a very young age. So card counting, people think it's very hard. You can learn 90% of what I know in a four-hour Internet session. It's a lot easier than people think. Cards in the gate, in other words, if you have a 10 and a 3, you don't even look at that hand. It's 0, plus 1, minus 1, but it's just 0. So it's a lot easier than people think.

But I would play it. It was even easier for me because here I am 10, 11, 12 years old. My very sharp cousin, Anthony, showed me right away that a deck of cards, obviously we know there's four aces. So if you're playing head-to-head blackjack with someone, just keep track of the aces. How many aces are in the hand? You can keep track of aces. There's only four of them. You deal right to the bottom.

You know if there's only this much cards left and there's two aces out, it's good for you to bet more because you get three to two on blackjack. But now the casinos use like five decks, right? Casinos use double decks. Oh, double decks. Double deck blackjack and they have six deck and eight deck. Okay. Yeah. But however, some of the casinos have really good rules, but unfortunately I'm mostly not allowed to play.

Yeah, you got banned from most of them, right? Well, yeah. I made a mistake, by the way. I wish I wouldn't have done this. If I had a chance to do one thing over in life, it would be not getting myself in the Griffin book. It's Griffin Investigations. It's a Griffin book. The casino is used. Is that the black book?

No, the black book is a total different book. Okay. The black book is a book that people aren't allowed in the casinos at all. Got it. You're in there with Al Capone. I mean, you're in there with the gangsters and stuff. Yeah, yeah. Cheats.

Casino cheats. We're not cheating. We're in there with Al Capone. I mean, you're in there with the gangsters and stuff. Yeah, yeah. Cheats, casino cheats. We're not cheating. We're using our brain. So you have the Black Book, you have the Griffin Book, and there's a new company now also that also does card counting. And I wish I wouldn't have done that because it's such a small edge. Yeah. I don't even do it anymore.

You're not going to catch me on a blackjack table. Oh, so the Griffin one's just for like counting and like minuscule. Card counting. But there's other ways to win now too that you can get yourself in one of the books. And you're not doing nothing. You're not cheating, but you can get yourself in a book because it's like whole carding, like sitting low in a chair, sitting down low and seeing the dealer's whole card. In other words, there's all these new pits that like they call like the sexy pits with

the girls that are brand new. They're breaking into dealing. Well, they're holding cards and they're showing the bottom card here when they're dealing the cards. That's whole carding. Or so you'll see actually the card that they have. So their whole card is what you want. You want to get a glimpse of the dealer's whole card.

So that's one way. Then there's a little more advanced thing. There's like shuffle tracking, A sequencing, when clumps of the cards are put back together and not shuffled randomly. There's a lot of little things that you can gain edges at that you can get yourself barred. I say barred. You can get yourself in the Griffin books that have card counting measures. Now, each casino, usually in the old days, they had card counting teams themselves.

People don't know that. As a matter of fact, if it wasn't for card counting, you wouldn't know me today. I wouldn't be sitting here. Because when I was in Atlantic City in the early 90s, I met someone that was the head of the card counting team at Resorts International, which is still, the casino is still in existence today. He was out playing after he worked his eight-hour shifts. He was out playing

at other casinos. He was using his skills and his skill set to be able to beat casinos on his own. Smart, because that's their competition. That's their competition. So they're taking money from them. Yeah, and he would do it for financial gain, of course. But I met him one day at a blackjack machine.

At a blackjack machine, and I was sitting next to him. He changed my life. If it's not for that guy telling me about this blackjack machine that was giving you back all your money on a surrender feature, which is a long process to go into, but the machine was an advantage machine. I didn't know what it was doing, but I knew all these guys were there at like 2 in the morning.

Just so happens the seat opened up right next to that guy. He told me everything about advantage sports betting, milling, scalping games, blackjack card counting. I already knew some, but he taught me some advanced things, what they look for, that he worked in a casino. He was a countermeasure for the casino. He changed my life. Wow.

Yeah. So these casinos are just making a ton of money off gamblers. Oh, sure, sure. And they don't like winners either. People don't know this part. I get some really good deals every week in the casinos to play video poker. So I don't play table games anymore. Unless there's, I shouldn't say that.

If they'll give me an offer like San Fran just gave me this casino in San Fran. Fly you out on a G5. Yeah, it was really nice. There was like 10 of us. It was really cool. I've been on about four or five of them already. Nice. But that one was a really cool one.

Because, God, they're so fast, this plane. Yeah. It's really cool. Why do you like video poker? Video poker is a percentage of payback compared to a reel, a slot machine, which pays back anywhere from gaming. I think the gaming law here in Nevada is 85% and that's the payback. Don't quote me on it, but it's around there. Whereas video poker, the payback is in the payback on the payback schedule on the table, on the game.

So there's games like 9-6 jacks are better. It's a simple game that a lot of people like because it pays back 99.54 with basic strategy, which is really easy to find. You can just Google 9-6 jacks poker basic strategy. It'll show you exactly how to play the game to proper strategy. There's a lot of common sense involved too, though. You have a pair of jacks, you hold the jacks. You have a pair of fives, you hold the fives.

But a lot of times people get confused, like if they're dealt ace, jack, queen, five, two. So they'll say, oh, I'll hold the high ones, ace, jack, queen, because that could make me get it straight. No, the jack, queen's right. Just the jack and queen. So do you gamble at all on the machines or anything? I don't. No?

I don't. I'm kind of thankful that I don't. Yeah. Oh, good, good, good. But it's good to help people too. And that's what I'm all about too, is I'm all about probably too much. I probably talk too much. I try to help Joe Public with many things. If they have problems getting paid from the sports book or something, I'll try to help them. You'll step in there. Yeah. And especially, I'm very transparent about things like I'm talking about now to you, which a lot of the pros would like. There's not as many pros as you think, but they might get upset at you, at me.

But I try to help them out and show people basic strategy and show people the skill sets and the bankroll management I've learned across my 30-year career, starting out as a loser, then a winner. But video poker is my fun, too. It's my away time. Yeah. But I do get a lot of casino things with casinos that they give me good deals playing video poker. And I'm actually losing. I get $1,000 a week from a casino to come in and play.

$1,000 a week, I'm losing money there, even though I probably should be more close to breaking even or even making a little bit because of the game I play and the volume I put to the machine. But I just ran bad there, and I'm losing a little bit there. But it's nothing compared to my sports betting. I'll bet more on one game than I'll have a chance to lose there in four months. Yeah, you're just doing it for fun at this point. It is. It's enjoyable.

It's my little – I don't even call it a leak. It's nostalgic. You grew up with it as a kid. It is. It is. I't even call it a leak. It's nostalgic. You grew up with it as a kid. It is. It is. I grew up a gambling addict, gambling in my life. A lot of people grow up gambling in their life. It becomes a bad problem.

Right. I just turned it around on the house. Yeah. Now, how did that end up for the rest of your family? Did they go down dark paths or are you helping them? You know what? Are you interested in coming on the Digital Social Hour podcast as a guest? We'll click the application link below in the description of this video.

We are always looking for cool stories, cool entrepreneurs to talk to you about business and life. Click the application link below. And here's the episode, guys. My, my, my parents both gambled. They had fun times with it though. Listen, at, at, towards the end of their lives i i was so happy i wish they were still here that i can finance their gambling now when i say that i give them 500 bucks each play

some video poker please enjoy yourselves in the casino yeah that was their enjoyment and um you know we grew up poor we were we were poor my parents worked blue collar jobs very hard working people my mom drove a school bus. My dad can build anything, plumbing, electrician, a whole house from top to bottom. And then he was in the car business. He was a finance manager. My father and mother worked very, very hard to give their kids a better upbringing. As far as my brother goes, he's a good kid, regular guy. I say good kid. He's 50 years old. But he's a hardworking guy, he works for Entenmann's, which is a big pastry company back

east, cookies and cakes. Out here, it doesn't seem like I see Entenmann's anywhere. I haven't seen them. Yeah, but back in New Jersey, in New York, in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, that's a big thing. He has a very good job, and his wife has a good job, they make a good living, they both, listen, they don't really gamble, but

we gambled as kids, my brother gambled too as kids we were losers my brother and i he got into the poker scene for a while worst thing you could do is make a score what's up a score make it you know he won 60 grand in a poker tournament next thing you think what's he think sean he's a poker player all you have to do all it takes is one score to literally give you the fascination that maybe i could do this. Right, right. I don't have to listen to a boss all day long. I could play poker for a living.

And the poker pros that are out there, they love that. That's what they make a living off of. So, yeah, did I have a lot of gamblers in my life? There's still gamblers in my family. Yeah, they're still gambling away. And, you know, like my mom and dad, my dad said something to me a couple times, and I never did it again. When I was sitting next to him playing video poker, I said,

no, Dad, you hold the jack queen there. You don't hold the – and I said, Bill, you take the fun of my gambling. That's why I'm here. I said, you know what? You're right. You're playing 25-cent video poker, a dollar and a quarter a hand. What's wrong with me? Why do I have to get the best of everything?

Let them enjoy themselves. Just like other people go to the movies on vacation, go to dinners, let them enjoy themselves. That's true. I like that, man. How do you choose which sports and, I guess, games to bet on? Is there a specific strategy? Sure. You'd be shocked to know this. What's the number one sport event in Las Vegas, in America. You know what it is, NFL. NFL, right. Yeah, number one. You'd be shocked to know I really don't do too much NFL. Really?

It's the most looked at sport there is. It's the hardest sport to beat. NFL sides. Got it. It's about the sides, like picking the game, game versus game. Right. San Fran's playing Baltimore. Big game this week, like almost its own Super Bowl.

It's so big. And everyone that wants to look at that game, wants to watch that game, two top teams in the nation, and they want to bet either one, Team A or Team B. Not me. Not me. Very rare that I'll have a side on a game. I'll bet totals.

I'll bet some correlation, some teasers, some secondary markets, like proposition bets over or under yardage, like on whatever, any quarterback, you know what I'm saying? Or over or under yardage on a running back or Christian McCaffrey, let's say. So I'll do that because it's not looked at so much like the NFL is, the NFL sides are. So I do like to bet that stuff, those ones I just talked about. College basketball and college football, probably my forte, though. Betting some smaller schools that people don't look at so much. People look at the big schools, like Stanford and Notre Dame

and teams that are almost like NFL teams, literally. The Alabamas and LSUs and all the good teams that are in football, they look at them and they, oh, I've got to bet this game. Oregon's playing. I've got to bet Oregon. I've got to bet this game. I'm looking at the real division schools that aren't even posted on, not even on TV.

So I said it on Showtime. I'm looking at schools like Maine, University of Maine, whoever knew that they had a football team you could bet on. Yeah. And why do you favor those lower-key schools? Not a lot of eyeballs on them. The bookmaker cannot get the line right. Bookmaker has to get the line right, especially now when it's college football and NFL going on and college basketball going on.

Oh, my God. On any given Saturday, I literally could show you on my computer, any given Saturday, they have to get 100 lines correct. 100 lines. Aren't they using AI, though, these days? They're getting into that a little bit, but there's still good old-fashioned bookmaking that goes on. You know, it's funny. For a while there, the analytics were coming into play. Every single NFL team had an analytics department with four or five guys.

That's stopping now. They have analytics, but maybe one guy. Because there has to be that good old-fashioned feel from the guys that played football, that are the coaches, the GMs. You have to have that also into your numbers and into your calculations of what you've done. Now, granted, analytics still play a big role. Like we found out recently that if you're down by 14 points

and you get a touchdown, you should go for two. Instead of just going for seven, two sevens to tie the game. You're better off going for two. Really? Yes, you're better off going for two there. And everyone at home doesn't realize. It's like, this is fixed. This is fixed.

That's the biggest letter. All over social media. FIX, biggest thing you see on all social media because they only look at it from their eyes and their team they bet. They don't look at it from both ways. In other words, you and I can be betting you bet team A, I bet team B.

However, watching the game you're going to think your team A should have won. I'm going to think my team B should have won. We only look at it from our eyes and the mistakes that are made on our sidelines from our teams. That's true. You don't look at it from the other side and say,

the other guy could say, oh, yeah, but what about my fumbles that I fumbled the ball? You don't even realize, oh, yeah, I guess you're right. That makes people come back to the counter every week. It makes them come back every single week. That's so true because fans of teams will only look at it from their perspective. Only look at it from their – and what happens? You said the right words.

You said that you see it all the time. What did they say? I was fixed. It's the NFL's fixed. Come on. These guys are making millions of dollars. Give me a break. Do you think someone's making $10 million, $20 million?

You think Mahomes making $50 million a year is fixing games? I mean, do you think these guys? Come on. The one fix I could see because it's happened in the past is referees. Well, we've known that with Donahue in the NBA in the past. And yeah, he put a bad thing on the game. Listen, it's not only that. It could happen on college basketball

where it's less cameras, less eyes on you. Absolutely, referees can get involved. I've never seen really, besides Donahue, which came out publicly, I've never really seen anything where... Put it this way. Sean, I've never really seen anything where, put it this way, Sean, I've never been called and

people know I have access to lots of these sports books in town for big limits. Yeah. Hey, crack, this is, we've got a fix here today. This game's going to be fixed, a referee's fix, and we should bet all we can on whatever, you know, on Arizona.

Yeah. You know, no, I haven't had that phone call. And you would have been in position to receive those calls. Listen, I've worked with the sharpest, best gambling syndicates in the world. Yeah. Big know, no, I haven't had that phone call. And you would have been in position to receive those calls. Listen, I've worked with the sharpest, best gambling syndicates in the world. Yeah. Biggest ones in the world.

No one's ever come out and told me the game's fixed. You know, it's just, but you know how they know something's funny? The bookmaker will actually alert the proper authorities if they're getting all one-way action on a certain team. Like it happened down at the South Point.

Well, it wasn't the South Point, but it was the bookmakers from the South Point. It happened to them at their previous position where they were getting one-way action on a certain team. We've seen a couple specials here on TV here once in a while. Some of the players were approached on the collegiate level. And I'm not really going to get into it. You can watch it. I don't want people to think that happens so much.

I don't want to get into it. It's a once in a blue moon, but you're right. There could be certain things with referees. There could be individual situations, but I'm not pretty sure. There's some individual ones. Did you see the Chris Paul one? I've heard about it. Yeah.

So there's this, I forget the ref's name, but he's never won a playoff game under that ref. Huh. That's amazing. So you see, if you take personal vendettas or situations. They just found out like a month ago, Chris Paul said that the ref made fun of his kid or something. Yeah, no, no, it could be. You could be right.

Yeah. I saw you tweet about Durango. Oh, I like it over there. You like it? Better than Fountain Blue? Yeah, I haven't been to Fountain Blue yet. I'm kind of mad at Fountain Blue. Why?

How can they not let all these people who are outside, unbelievable influencers with millions of followers, hundreds of thousands. One guy has 400,000 followers. They let these people in at 6 p.m., and they let the influencers who, let's face it, that's where people get their information from now. It could be from local media or even major media.

They let them in at 6 p.m. They let like local Fox 5 or whatever get in. How can you not let someone that has 475,000 followers? We're doing a live feed with 50,000 people. I didn't get invited to. There must have been some old antique that works there. It doesn't realize you should have let people in. You shouldn't get invited to. They really, there must have been some old antique that works there and doesn't realize he should have let people in. He shouldn't have let people in. I heard it was 2,000

people they let in, and then I know the GM there, and he said he only had a plus one, and he's like a GM. Wow. So it was pretty tight. Yeah, but how do you let those 2,000 people? Who are they? I've seen videos of those people. Yeah. Some of them look like they should be in a homeless shelter. Some of them were big. Some of them were probably plus ones that don't even

have social media. But I'm not going to lie, I was a little upset. Of course you have to be upset. You have a lot of followers. How come they're not all that? I wanted to go and network. I don't even care to flex.

I just wanted to meet new people. I didn't even go. I haven't even went. I'm surprised you didn't get invited because you're big in the casino scene. Yeah, but I'm not. The influencers are much bigger than me.

I'm small potatoes. Vegas Matt was there, but yeah. Oh, Vegas Matt got in early? scene. Yeah, but I'm not. The influencers are much bigger than me. I'm small potatoes. Vegas Matt was there, but yeah. Oh, Vegas Matt got in early? He got in, yeah. Oh, I mean, he's a losing slot player. I wish he would put that out there more. He doesn't. He loses.

No, he does. I'll give him that. He does. I wish these people that are influencing, showing slot machines, and because people at home see that and they wish they were them. Yeah.

Oh, my God, if I can only spin the wheel for that kind of money or if I can only spin, these people are making a million dollars a year from, you know, YouTube influencers wise or getting paid for sponsors. They're losers. So. The slots odds.

They're losing casino gamblers. The slots are just, the odds are so bad. Oh, I just said. Like 85, right? 8% is a good number. Yeah. Very good. So you do know, if you're not gambling, you know the bad. Oh, I just said 85. It's like 8%, right? 8% is a good number. Yeah. Very good. So you do know, for not gambling, you know the number.

Yeah, I look it up. I mean, I just look at it as like. See, my video poker is half a percent. Half of 1%. That's the best I've ever heard. Yeah. That's better than Baccarat, actually. You can go to any station casinos, and you can see right off the table, it says, right

at the machine bank, it'll say up to 99.8, or up to 100% full pay. Wow. So, right, they have banks of them'll say up to 99.8 or up to 100% full pay. Wow. So they have banks of them on all the station's properties and stuff. So if you play them over time, they give you less points or no points for playing them because you're playing a good percentage game. Got it. That's interesting. It is.

Why'd you like Durango? I saw your tweet about the pizza spot there. Oh, I like the pizza spot. Yeah, the pizza spot was good. And when I mentioned it on air with John O, he was like, I know the owner of pizza place. Yeah, the pizza spot was good. And when I mentioned it on air with John, oh, he's like, I know the owner of that place. Yeah. And I didn't even realize that Dana was on because we were out with Dana a few times

playing blackjack. And of course, that's someone I would not tell anything to, just to let you know. Dana White? I won't tell. Listen, the guy's betting $30,000 a hand. I'm not going to. Give him advice?

No. Even if he's betting $300 a hand, there's nothing good can come out of me giving someone advice at the table like that. Yeah. Because what will happen? They think, well, if I would have stayed, if I don't listen to this guy with his 1% hand, why make enemies out of somebody?

I would never tell him anything. Well, he's probably already counting, to be honest. I don't think so. Really? I don't think so. Wow. Because I've seen him win in blackjack pretty big. Win?

He told me that he won like 15 times in a row. He's on an unbelievable streak. Unbelievable. Since his fights were overseas somewhere, Abu Dhabi, he said I came back and won 15 times in a row. So Red Rock's just good luck. But he's had losses there

too. He'll say that. But going back to what you were saying, I really liked Durango. I went in and I tried the pizza place. I tried Erb's Burgers. John said he knew they were good. I thought they were just okay. But the pizza place, I was real impressed with.

It's Prince Street from New York. Yeah. I was impressed with the square pizza. I was impressed. The spicy. Spicy one's excellent. Yeah. Very good.

So I don't do pepperoni normally. It worked. Same. It worked with that hot honey. Yeah. Yeah, it worked. No, they're. I was a fan because it's hard to find pizza in Vegas coming from New Jersey.

You know how it is. Yeah, exactly, coming from Jersey. So I'm really partial to like New York pizza, like John's Oblique or New Haven. There's Frank Pep's and Sally's, and then there's like L&B Spumoni Gardens square pie in Brooklyn, one of my favorites. That pie reminded me of L&B Spumoni Gardens with the sauce on top. I thought it was fantastic. That's legendary. I've been struggling to find good Italian out here. Have you found any?

The Italian American Club's good. Old school Italian American Club. American Club? The Italian American Club. It's on Sahara. It's just like Vegas used to be, Sean. You gotta go. You walk in, it's dark. It's the Sinatra music, Tony Bennett, Dean Martin, and the food

is fantastic. Probably the best viola in the city. I've been struggling because from Jersey, we don't realize, I mean, you realize you grew up Italian, but I never realized how good the Italian was over there. Oh, God. Oh, no. The best over there. But we have some decent places here. Believe it or not, we have a couple places. We have a deli here,

Italian deli, if you like those sandwiches with the hard bread. There's a place called Cugino's on Maryland Parkway between Flamingo and Tropicana. They're from Staten Island. They're like a real all-Italian family. Their family's cooking the foods, making the subs, making a fresh mozzarella house.

I love that. And they also make a grandma's pie. It's very good there. Yeah. So I did find a couple places here, but the food's never going to be never as good as back home. I like the pizza place Prince Street. Fantastic. Still not going to be as good as Bimoni Gardens pizza,

but it's the best in this town that I've had. Square pie. I agree. Yeah. I don't think anything's close. But it's expensive. I'll tell you right now. Yeah. Two slices and a soda is like, you know, you're going to pay $20 for two slices and a soda. Makes sense. You're in a casino. I was at the food court over at the, one of the food courts in town, Venetian or somewhere. Two slices and a soda, $27.

Wow. $27 for two slices. And they're lined up to get in. Wow. Lined up to get in. Dude, whenever I go to Eataly, I spend like 200 bucks. No, Eataly, I can't help. See, I'm at the point in my life where, like I said, I'm kind of, like I said, I drive a Kia.

I'm not a big shot there, but I have no problem spending $5,000 a month on food. No, and you go to a place like Eataly, that's the reason why. I love Eataly. It's great.

Absolutely. Good stuff. Well, Bill, it's been a blast, man. Anything you want to close off with or promote? I don't want to promote anything.

You sure? I'm not promoting nothing. Oh, I appreciate it, man. I'm promoting me, Bill Crackman. Love it. Well,

where's your Twitter at least? At Bill Crackman at Twitter. I do do Instagram now though. You know, I appreciate it, man. I promote me. Bill Crackman. Love it. Well, where's your Twitter at least? At Bill Crackman at Twitter. I do do Instagram now, though. You know, I have one tweet. It's not going to be nothing like yours, but I have one tweet that went a little bit viral, I guess. It got a million views. Okay. A little bit.

That's solid, man. Considering I don't really do Instagram. Yeah. I gained 20,000 followers on one tweet. Holy ****. I'm up to 26,000. What was it about? Just about how we win because we know the line first.

Guys like us, we know the lines better than the bookmakers. So that's why I'm on the line because on Sunday night for the next weekend's NFL game, we get like a $1,000 limit. Whereas day of the game, you can bring whatever you can bring to the counter. Bring a million dollars, you can get a million dollars back. Because by then, the line's so refined. That's exactly right. That makes sense. You know a lot more about gambling than you think. I've hung on a couple sports bettors now.

You knew the 8%. But yeah, so anyway, I'm at my Twitter handle. I crack wins. I didn't even know what it was. I didn't know what the Twitter handle was. Thanks for coming on. Anytime. Thank you for having me. Absolutely. Thanks for watching, guys. See you tomorrow.