Digital Social Hour - Marcus Barney (Him500) Reveals How To Make Your Life Recession Proof | Digital Social Hour #113
Episode Date: September 25, 2023On today's episode of Digital Social Hour, we sit down with Marcus Barney (Him500) and discuss how to make your life recession proof, overcoming depression and dealing with violence and a rough childh...ood upbringing. BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: Jenna@DigitalSocialHour.com APPLY TO BE ON THE POD: https://forms.gle/qXvENTeurx7Xn8Ci9 SPONSORS: HelloFresh: https://www.hellofresh.com/50dsh - Use code "50dsh" for 50% off plus 15% off the next 2 months! LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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The market evolving growth. I have to do the same thing.
Right.
I cannot maintain the same level of like interest in certain topics, the same, you know, friends,
the same activities.
I can't do the same thing forever.
It has to change.
My friends have to change.
You know why I don't want you?
Because my my worth nothing
welcome to the digital social hour podcast i'm your host sean kelly here with my co-host wayne lewis what up what up and our guest today him 500 what up boss what's up i'm good i'm good man mr him him not them right right right got the watch on
hit me neutron this is like you know i'm with the family man this is this is like
that's a comfortable day yeah there's some light work. What you in Vegas for?
Family.
Had a family emergency. Family trip.
Yeah, came out and not a family trip, family emergency.
So we came out and spent some time and make sure everybody was good.
Nice.
Yeah.
What you been working on lately?
Honestly, man, just building up my community.
Building and working and just doing some stuff on youtube starting to play on youtube more because you've been kind of off the scenes like
kind of kind of like i ain't been selling as much step back a little bit right yeah it's i built a
new um platform so we built eyl university okay powered by recession proof and so with that I've
been kind of like operating and building off the operations behind the scenes so
we focus on that so we get back outside now yeah I thought somebody might have
pissed you off yeah everybody's taking taking your style mighta you know is is
is one of the things that I do see is that in the community is that it uh
becoming I guess yeah yeah all right cool i know but yeah you know it comes with the territory um but my thing is i
teach people how to be me right like i don't put mdas out there i don't put do not compete i teach
you something you master it go run you know learn how to empower other people that's gonna be the
main goal is win but just be just do right you know what i'm saying like stand on your word like you know selling information at this point is a business it ain't it's it's really a business
so treat it like a business and as your product you don't got to leave with the bullshit i'm just
trying to help like i'm not gonna make money too like i'm in business to make money so if i'm here
to make money make sure my product is good make sure your product is good if you sell a course
and you go you sell the information redo it you know what i mean and if you're not an expert at something partner with
an expert it's cool if you could sell better than if i could outsell you i'll get an expert to come
in and expose you to more people right so it's just all strategy so but i just been building
and figuring out how to like because now we're going in a different model expanding you know
throughout the world
instead of just being in the US.
So I got a chapter in Canada and Europe and Africa coming.
When expanding,
in that aspect, are you applying different methods?
Because different methods apply for different countries,
different states, or like how do you expand in that aspect,
dealing with so many different countries, continent, people, scenarios?
Taking Canada, for example.
Right.
Because the laws are different, right?
Yeah.
So you're constantly learning.
Exactly.
So I've been mastering and building out my credit for Canada.
Okay.
Realizing that my credit report over here don't apply to
the one in Canada so okay so what so how does that look like you you learn the
dope part is I started learning the border in states are the states that we
kind of look at like Detroit okay because people can live in Detroit and
work in Canada mmm pardon of New York, Buffalo.
Part of Washington.
So you look at the banking systems of where they connect.
And so it's starting to teach me, okay, this is my end over here into the country.
These are the entry points where the banking systems kind of meet.
But just learning their systems and how their credit reporting agencies work it's a lot different but it doesn't it it's a way that you can have it where it doesn't
collide where what's on your u.s credit report doesn't affect your canada credit report wow
so somebody got bad credit in the u.s they ain't got bad credit in canada oh but why is that though can you elaborate on that
or you want to it's different different systems okay different countries different systems you
know you credit still the same bureaus right somewhat no but someone yes and no but like
you go africa they don't do credit what is there based on i ain't all the way deep there yet so i
don't but you know a lot of stuff is not based like it ain't all the way deep there yet so i know but you know a lot of stuff
is not based like it ain't credit based so a lot of countries you start going into that don't base
around credit and things like that is cash so it's different models of business and in ways that we
can utilize them together but i'm still learning like i ain't an expert at it i'm still learning
and that's why i'm kind of fleshing it out and i've been focused on that because it's like yo
we got a lot of room for expansion and growth as entrepreneurs business owners like to really
grow in different that's a totally different way to think about it because as the world shift and
we're dealing with a change in currency your businesses are going to have to be international
you're going to have to make them footprints over there and plant them seeds over there so you your
first thing is understanding their banking system and leveraging over there
already you guys like he's like 10 years ahead well that happened to Nick because
remember he was in Canada and he had no credit when he moved to the US yeah
yeah that's and you you start realizing like yo how
do we use the system because in the US credit is super popular it's not as much
over there they learn they make money they do things but it's not as lucrative
the reward points and things like that it doesn't it's not the same it's not so
many banks out there trying to give $25,000 credit cards trying to compete
amongst each other for interest rates.
So it's just different.
Now, how did you get in the info product space? Because you made millions with it.
But where were you at before you started?
So before the info, I was real estate.
I deal with real estate.
I used to do cell phone repair and just an entrepreneur, like always working in different businesses.
And I'm like, like yo i start making money
from having good credit so i'm like yo how can i literally like get more people like me like if i
can get 10 people um 100 000 we got a million dollars right we can go invest a million flip it
do things um and change everything so i was like yo let me put out there like y'all
I'm into her ten people for a thousand dollars right you realize everybody don't want the same
objective they looked at something I said in my marketing and what I was gonna teach and that's
how they want it they want a partner be team members and I'm like oh okay well did they seen
it you know I'm just posting on social media I understand marketing and I'm like oh okay well they seen it you know i'm just posting on social media i
understand marketing and i'm like on my stories just showing like our call people like yo
can i join next month i'm like ain't no next month
well 10 people thousand miles a piece it could be a next month so i put it out there bro 18 people signed up
wow and a thousand a piece that was that was the first time that was the second time
first time i sold out 10 so i said oh 18 i said well
i put i created a facebook group for the first group. So the second group, literally my Facebook group is still called Him 500 Mentorship.
And I'm like, it was just for us to talk and communicate.
So I put the second people in the group.
And the first people was helping them.
And I said, yo, this is dope.
And I was like, well, shit, we growing.
I can keep letting people come in right
man bro that's what started and then i did a uh a conference i'm like yo let's come together get
together in atlanta i did a small event 2019 did a small event where everybody just came probably
was like under 100 of us and bro it was like a family reunion
for everybody to finally meet and it just created this community yeah this culture morphed into
something crazy 20 000 members strong just did what it was supposed to wow so your skill is
building a community basically it was i didn't know bro it was it's turned into that now i can say that but initially
it was the the biggest thing for me what i looked at was giving people what they needed what i didn't
have like you know when we build and you coming up you'd be by yourself like how many people you
still got around you from when you was 18 being that person to other people that you need being
that you need resources yeah yeah like it was like person to other people that you need that you need
resources yeah yeah like it was like what's the resource that i need it's like bro i need other
hustlers like i want to be around other people talking about money like how do we get around
each other and it ain't always got to be like sale so instead of me saying yo man you teach
about e-commerce come sell to my people i'm like nah i'm gonna buy your course and give it to them
so if they want to learn e-commerce they got it readily available so it's like being I was I know that I
never forget a video me said like yo the your crew is only as good as the boss
right like if you a thieving boss you have a thieving crew you got a given
boss do you have a given crew right my thing was always to not be selfish
hmm bro whatever course y'all need, I'll go get it.
I'll go get the experts.
Y'all looking, I've seen buying businesses is cool.
I'll go get with Roland Frazier.
I'll pay to be in his masterminds and get the course
and bring this back to my tribe.
I'm not going, I don't want y'all to go pay other people.
Stay with me.
I'm doing conferences.
Y'all want to go to conferences?
I'm doing one better than everybody.
I'm going to have the biggest one and it's free. Now what? Now you don't want to go to conferences i'm doing one better than everybody i'm gonna have the biggest one and it's free now what now you don't got to go to theirs you're gonna we're
gonna have our own and it's just us so it's the each one teach one mentality you go back you get
the you you go back you hunt you bring the food back and you teach them how to do it and and i
bring the experts in to help so that way everybody is is because you know and it's more cost effective that that way for them yeah yeah yeah but everybody can afford 50k it's lucrative for me
because you can one-stop shop here right and i'm housing and putting everything together for us
here where you ain't gotta go five six different places buying all these different courses right
like you learn credit you go get the money and you're like what do i want to do with it i
want to start an e-commerce store well now you got to go spend another five thousand to learn
e-commerce and hope that this person stand on it and that they got a good course you're already
a trusted source system here we got it right here we got the support system here now you got to go
do the work we're here gotcha so that's kind of like how i built. Like I didn't have nobody to give me opportunities and give me education and give it to me like that.
And I'm like, as I started, it just kind of morphed.
And I just started realizing like because people will come and want to sell to my community.
And I'm like, I don't want you to sell my community.
So here, I give you $25,000.
I give you $50,000.
Give me your course.
People like, bet.
Now it's at a point they give it to me for free because somebody probably watching like, man, I'll sell you my course for $25,000. I give you 50,000. Give me your course. People like, bet. Now it's at a point they give it to me for free because somebody probably watching like, man, I'll say my course is 25,000.
It's free now. You got to give it the community too big. It make you an authority in your space.
So after, you know, being in this space for so long, right, and dealing with so many different
people, what are some of the things still to this day that frustrate you about certain
people or certain communities and even us i got the black community frustrate me yeah or that you
feel like even with yourself like cool is it me need a space like this now bro is is it's a lot
of things out there right you got fear mongering people out there
confusing people got people scared to to invest in education and they fear monger and and cause
bull topics to make it cool to um to get views right you know i'm saying and then you get you
get the followers who say like oh man i want to i'm gonna do what they doing because it's working
like negativity start getting clicks and views and you get the the spineless backbone line that go oh since that's
getting clicks and views i'm gonna be negative like them right and it's like positive for
in the last five years and now because it's cool to be negative you want to be negative and and
your positivity ain't selling no more how it was you've been in fault yeah it's like bro you
cause confusion like if somebody built a lane for themselves look at how they lane you need good and
bad you need it you need people to for the every guy it got to be a devil for the comparables it's
needed yeah yeah it's 100 needed but what happens is the people in the like you got to remember
there's consumers looking and watching when you stand on one side of positive like stay where you was that don't go come conform
and switch over because of the negative start getting attention that's that's
that's hella lame to me another thing frustrate me is people that say yo you
know our community we start to feel like we shouldn't have to pay for information
right and like we'll say the same Plymouth Rock landed on us.
We ain't land on Plymouth Rock.
Plymouth Rock landed on us.
Yeah.
Yo, man, we got crab in a bucket mentality.
And then the same was, well, who put us in the bucket?
Mm-hmm.
It's perfect.
Mm-hmm.
I shouldn't have to pay for information?
No.
Why can't you afford it?
Mm-hmm. I shouldn't have to pay for information? No. Why can't you afford it? When you say you want something, why aren't you in a position to be able to afford it?
If somebody tells you it's $1,000 for you to learn and for me to help you do something and you can't afford the $1,000, the issue is not me charging you the $1,000.
The issue is why you can't afford it.
The issue is what you do every day and you ain't got $1,000.
You can go work at a McDonald's. You got three options thousand dollars hey you could drive for you can go work
at mcdonald's you got three options i give people three options you can go labor take your to a
warehouse a fedex a toys r us you can go work at mcdonald's uber if you let you you're a boss i
don't i can't work for nobody okay well look big man you broke and ain't you can't go work for
somebody well then go work for yourself and do uber people make the top 83 percent of people who drive for uber make over 75 000 a year i know dude
made 100 driving for uber yeah it's wild so go drive for uber if not worst case bro can i check
your dms for you for 125 a week and and i check your dms for you for $125 a week? And I check your DMs for $125 a week.
Give me your passport.
You don't got to send me your password.
Do it on LastPass.
It's an app that will give me access to your messages.
I don't have to log into your actual Instagram.
I can just check the messages.
If business owners ain't checking their messages, give me $125 a week.
That's $500 a month.
If I get 10 people, that's $5,000 a month.
Now I'm making $5,000 a month. a month okay cool you got a product for sale you got something for sale can I get three percent three
to five percent commission off anything I sell in a DM mm-hmm now I'm making an
extra let's just say I make an extra five hundred dollars a week affiliate
yeah employee I'm working it's your stuff i need a commission i'm a sales agent now because
i'm checking your dms yeah i'm making five thousand dollars a month checking the dms now
if i can get five hundred dollars a week in commissions out of the dms from people already
sending you messages i'm at five hundred dollars a week on ten people that's five thousand a week
five thousand a week that's twenty five thousand 000 a month why you ain't got no money
it's not that you don't do it it's don't want to work right it's grinding hustle i worked in
warehouses i check my own dms but like when i tell you i get up and work like i fly around seven days
a week we they say we don't got an opportunity and or people want to charge for information people won't effort for information because it takes
it cost me a hundred thousand dollars a month to operate my business for me to
have customer support when you want to send an email in for me to put a
Facebook group together for me to build out my app and have an app and a
software and a tech team to do live calls and have coaches creating
curriculums now to it's currently things come about we create our own
curriculums in-house I got hr to hire staff i got
26 people i sell education that's my product i have to make sure my product is good it costs me
to fulfill this it costs me to create this it costs me to market it costs me to brand for you
to even see me and know who i am i'm not out here and nobody know me so i'm just getting paid it
costs to to market marketing advertise that's
the thing that people don't realize it's a business right and all men it's a
hustle it's not a hustle it's a real business I got a eight-figure business
did 25 million two years like it's a real business it's not a hustle so when
you join something like this it costs to create right that's what I tell people
like yo and it'd be frustrating because they're like,
you should give it to me. No.
You're not going to be successful if you don't got $1,000.
I was charging
$5,000. If you don't got
$5,000, you know why I don't
want you? Because my $5,000 is worth nothing.
You're not willing
to dedicate to yourself. And the reason I say you're not worth
nothing is because you're only worth the
ability that you have with your work ethic you only work your work ethic right however
hard you're willing to work that's the only amount of success you're gonna get right it's all based
off your work ethic if you're not willing to work and you say i'm and i'm broke and you ain't willing
to go work then you're never gonna be successful and nothing i teach you is gonna help you right
it's no point of me even trying to help you i only help those willing to put the work in if you're not they say oh people don't be successful on courses
they don't work it's not that they oh i learned a book but then i didn't go do nothing they didn't
apply the knowledge that they learned or it's the work either way every day you got to get up and
work every day yeah every day you got to get up and work if you wake up and and you like and what
happens is and i know it starts with mindset because
it's easy to sit down and get contemplated and get bogged down with, I'm broke.
And you get consumed with negativity and you get consumed and be stressed out and you let
it beat you.
Man, I just can't figure it out.
And it beats you.
You got to get that shit off your shoulder.
That's how I tell people, do whatever's uncomfortable, but just something go work at the mcdonald's go do uber i know you may not want to do that
but you do that to get it off your shoulders to where you like okay i'm i don't want to do this
but i'm feeding myself doing it what's next right i gotta do something next but you got movement
right you willing to get up and work you're doing it's not bogging you down and you're dormant you sit there dormant and you be in the comments looking like a saying give it to me for
free or do that like no offense like you like a like i'll be telling men bro you got to get that
off you right like you got it as men you got to get it up off you like let that go and and be like
let me figure out let me go work right i i we have to
have movement i can work with my mind i can work with my hands i can work with my labor
anyway but don't sit and complain like somebody owe you something right work for it like that's
powerful how did getting successful affect your relationship with your family and friends great um my family's amazing so you know with me
is i would say it's amazing but it's a stressful thing because i move a lot i'm always traveling
um and i had to i i had to figure out like I already didn't have great examples when it came to being a father.
So I have to learn, like, man, I'm not, I know I'm not the best dad.
Well, who is?
Like, who do people I'm going to study like to be a best dad?
And I started, you know, purposely making friends with fathers me to have the ability, some freedom to be able to finance things that I probably wouldn't be able to.
So I can take my family with me when I go somewhere.
I can take the whole family on vacations and, and still work.
You know what I mean?
So it's like, sometimes I know I'm going to have to leave and be focused only on the
business and they got to
take the back seat. But it's sometimes when my business don't take the back seat and I'm and
I'm because I'm in a financial position, I can put my business in the back seat when my family need
me. And it's like, nah, it's Christmas. We out, we two weeks, we in Paris, we're going to do this,
we're going to Disneyland over here. I can spend time and dedicate this to them and go okay i know like if i do nothing my daughter's happy with me waking up in the house
and and and eating captain crunch like this this is her morning here let's just play hide and seek
cool let's let's go play tag and ride and run around the house my oldest let's go swimming i
want to get on get on the roller coasters with me like these are the things that they require from me and you know the the finance part is is cool because now we go to
paris and go to disneyland we don't wait in no long so i'll go through the whole park in two
hours three hours sometimes one line there's two hours yeah for sure bro bro listen is it but this
is what you know and it's not to say I don't want to be vanity and be frank.
I feel like I'd be comfortable here.
I ain't got no censor.
But we get to it.
Like, this is what we work for because it's things in our life that we desire.
Like, it may be you may want to tie and donate a million dollars to your church, $100,000 to your church.
Like, it's a lot of things, whatever it is that you desire.
For me, I want my kids to have experiences.
I want them to be well-traveled.
I want them to understand no different languages,
different cultures.
I'm looking at moving to Dubai at the end of the year.
I want them to be exposed to the world.
I got exposed to the community and to hood,
and those things hindered me for a long time right and and
I'm still getting those bandages off I still got those traumas and and from growing up where I grew
up and so even sometimes the way I speak like it still is it sits on this it's in you not on you so
it's like yeah yeah so it's like how do I, you know, create a human?
I'm creating my children.
I created you.
So I have the ability to put you in environments that pour into who you become.
Right.
So everything that inserts into who you become is based off of what I present to you.
So I want you to be world travel.
I want you to understand different cultures.
I don't want you to be of one culture.
I don't want you to be like, like. I don't want you to be like, like I only knew 20 years of my life. I grew up in one city and only knew that demographic and only knew that lifestyle, only knew that culture and only knew the traumas and everything, the negativity that came with it and everybody else that came with this.
Right.
So now I'd be like, wait a minute.
I moved to Atlanta and i see black excellence and
it was like man it's amazing here and you could be whatever you want it's black excellence and i go
and i succeed and you feel like i made it right and then you realize that it's a false sense of
security because ain't no other city in the world like atlanta where you could be black and everybody
you every restaurant you go to is black owned and the valet is black owned the airport is full of black employees and you take your now you got this money
and you take to Dubai and you realize that yep you by yourself again right right you know i'm
saying you go to Istanbul you in Paris and it's like oh okay nah this is not the world right and
it's a lot of different cultures that you don't understand religions that you don't
understand the way that these countries operate everywhere don't operate like the US and it's cool
that they're different right and I want to like understand that and I want my kids to understand
that and not think that oh man you grew up and you deal with a black and white society with uh the
white people are pressing the black and talking about slavery and this is a big thing it's like this is where we come from but
this is people go through this all around the world different levels different reasons skin
colors religious types it's a lot that come with it and i just want them to be you know exposed to
that so you're seems like you're i mean just by the you know from what i've seen that you're big on recreating yourself
like how did that come about and like you're constantly recreating yourself like you look
different like you know it's like you like why like not why but like i know you're constantly
evolving like how do you stay evolving like what keeps you going like what keeps you going bro is that you can't be like look at look at the the things how things grow right we're on a
podcast right podcast didn't exist five years ago not at all music used to be on cds in the 90s
it was on ipods in by 2006 it was on the phone by 2010
now it's to a point where that's the biggest
place to market
music is on podcasts
and different shows you don't go radio no more
like nobody like people will go on a podcast
keep it up
but people will go on
drink chants before they go to breakfast club now
people don't need to go there
we don't gotta go to radio I go to my man yeah i go to dj academics put on his social media things change and evolve
and you look at it and you go how do what makes me different because i'm a human yeah every industry
and everything in my life has changed the look at technology the dot-com era to phones and smartphones and now to
the point where how you hire how people do jobs everything is off the phone like it used to be oh
yeah i need to get an office to have all these computers it's like nah you need a office with
charging port like all you need is charging ports bro work off your phone give you no laptop like
if you ain't doing digital editing like mo and you can do that off your phone.
It's nothing in this world you can't do off your phone.
So when you look at it, it's like the world is constantly evolving.
Now with AI, I look at what's going on with stocks.
Two years ago, if I said, bro, if you want a sure bet investment, just put your money in Apple, Google.
You put it in an ETF, back with all the big tech companies like apple and microsoft and you know next 10 15 years
it's a sure bet you'll get a good return you don't got to really worry about losing because
historically these companies have won now ai comes around and rocks their world nowadays
their stocks is questionable now is oh what is they what is, they gotta, they gotta recreate.
They gotta go to work. Right. And, and a lot of these stock company and they stocks is
dropping down. Right. So now it's not that much of a sure bet. These AI companies is skyrocketing,
not saying they're sure bet because they haven't proven themselves over time,
but they evolve. The markets evolve and grow. I'm'm i have to do the same thing right i cannot
maintain the same level of like interest in certain topics the same you know friends the
same activities i can't do the same thing forever it has to change my friends have to change my uh the the business model has to change everything has to
change constantly and be okay with it because then i never get comfortable there are so many people
that's afraid to change bro they're scared to grow yeah one thing i knew i always made my wife go
back and forth i tell i say listen i'm not i don't over celebrate my highs like i don't over celebrate my
wins and i don't get down on my lows i stay in a solid space where i'm comfortable because i know
i'm constantly evolving i'm constantly gonna be changing and you know i'm gonna make moves some
moves maybe for the good some moves maybe for the bad but just keep moving keep moving movement is
everything and that's what propels us forward you know i'm
saying like if i tell anybody that it's like yo keep working keep moving like how long you
been doing this four months four months 200 episodes in we'll be at 200 episodes this
this end of this week this this week outwork everybody that's exactly what we are you know what i'm saying out work
that's it it's just like yo like it's just outwork people like you grind so hard and do so much
you're like yo i'll just outwork you because most people don't want to work yeah people overthink
it they think it's some secret formula but if you just outwork that's like 80 of it yeah and
the reason why i was saying that is because um you
know i seen the you know the credit the transformation and then now you know it's more
so like you're applying the content you're pushing like this emphasis on why companies need they
should be pushing contents and you mentioned finstas and how some people are using their
finstas for or to you know do whatever because they don't want to be seen by their jobs and you
like nah your company should have a finsta you know don't because they don't want to be seen by their jobs and you like nah
your company should have a finsta you know don't follow nobody so you can get understand the
algorithm and so that you can start you know using that as market research and things of that sort so
i was like okay yeah because because bro you know a lot of people looked at me as a credit guy
yeah credit was just a product yeah like i'm a business just a gateway just
just a store opener it was what i was it was what i was selling this is what i led with to teach
people about business it was just my entryway to show you what you can do with business right
i'm not the master and the best person in credit right i just mastered how to get more money than
everybody else leveraging credit so i can help people get more money leveraging credit right
you can be the master of credit but you can't get the money i know how people get more money leveraging credit right you can be the
master of credit but you can't get the money i know how to get with it i'm the master of that
and so what happens is is that you know i have several conversations and me and trap always
had conversations and he'd be like bro you're bad motherfucking kind of this business i know
you'd be talking that credit he's like but i think they overlook your business business side and i'm
like you know and i'm like, you know what?
Maybe I should start doubling down and really teaching people and showing people the business
acumen and like how to apply things and how to do certain things.
Like I just gave somebody a business model on here.
Like literally just built out here, five, 10, $20,000.
Literally.
Yeah.
I'm going to go shoot some content right now.
I got to re-put that shit out.
I'm going to re-clip it off of here and put it back out.
Because I'm literally giving you a model of like yo how you make money
and it's simple it's like well then the i always think of people's objections well how do you find
the people to they dm always he won't dm me back right okay go on fiverr buy a list of 500 and play
the numbers game go buy 500 influencers that sell
information products okay give me five influencers and i'm a dm 500 at a 500 one percent will respond
now i got five there you go yeah it's all a numbers game with dms i used to dm like 100
a day so we used to use the bot that did it until instagram blog oh yeah i remember those yeah now you got chat g i mean you got a many chat yeah so now you can use many chat to to dm and
and learn how to hack algorithms okay so i don't got i go do 500 it doesn't work for me i don't
i'm not sending 500 messages out okay well here can i do a collaboration post with you for 10 000
and on the collaboration post
i want you to leave it up i need you to do instagram live with me right i'm sure hack other
people yeah i want i'll give you 10 000 do instagram live with me about what business
10 minutes but i want a collaboration post after of one clip and highlight would you do it
possibly right because we don't hear now so it's gonna blow would you do it? Possibly, right? Because we're on here now,
so it's going to blow it, but do it to other people. Now, what I'm going to do is if I wanted
to, I may pay you 10,000, but now I'm going to tell you to do a collaboration post and I'm going
to put my mani chat on there and put a keyword. I'm not going to sell and solicit. I'm going to
take a valuable piece of information that you said, i'ma do a keyword some kind of keyword
that they comment for the full episode now you're in my algorithm now i got you on my many chat
now you opted in now if i give you in order for me to give you the full live that we did you got
to give me your name phone number email some kind of way i got you to where i can communicate with
you right if i'm looking to grow and I'm making a
couple dollars like if I wanted to you got a lot of business owners a lot of people who follow you
for business in in their own company well guess what I'm gonna do here if you want somebody and
I'll ask you would you benefit like I take this episode say yo and you said yeah I'll pay somebody
to check my DMS this that we should buy we did this I sent a hundred DMS and I clipped that like
yo would you want somebody seeing you dance DMs because it's going to help you exponentially grow your business?
Comment DM.
Right.
I don't have to have a big following.
Right.
You do.
When we collaborate, your audience is the one that's going to see it.
Right.
Now I got all my clients.
That's smart, man.
I love that.
You see what I'm saying?
That's deadly, bro.
Jimmy Neutron.
Not Jimmy.
Jimmy. Yo. But that, it'd be like, yo, that it'd be like yo so it'd be like you gotta look
at the landscape like yo when you want to work but this it don't come from nowhere it's me
hustling yeah for me thinking right i sit and think and analyze what it is that i do and how
can i get better that's why i tell people you gotta work it comes from experience you test
things out and see what works man i could talk to you for hours but we got to wrap up what's next for you man man just
continuously building I'm focusing on the university just putting people in
and value there and just just getting everybody in and growing you have
another conference yeah I got one coming up I made that now for me and I'm
making some changes so I got some coming we'll come through this time for sure most definitely
i heard great things about the last one though i appreciate it yeah wayne man
y'all don't take no gym from that i ain't got nothing for you man that was bars that many chat
thing got my brain racing thanks for tuning in guys digital social hour see you next time peace
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