Digital Social Hour - Masculinity, Motivation & Modern Challenges Explained | Stirling Cooper DSH #1292

Episode Date: April 3, 2025

Get ready for an unfiltered and eye-opening discussion on masculinity, motivation, and modern challenges! 💪🎙️ In this episode of the Digital Social Hour, Sean Kelly sits down with returning guest Stirling Cooper to tackle topics that every man needs to hear. From the life lessons learned in the boxing ring 🥊 to the pressures of modern dating and societal expectations, this episode is packed with valuable insights and raw truths. Discover how Stirling's fight camp in Spain transformed his perspective on confidence, discipline, and fatherhood. 🛡️ He also shares his thoughts on the importance of embracing challenge, detoxing from toxic habits, and how societal shifts are impacting men today. Plus, they dive into controversial topics like dating in a digital age, the rise of male loneliness, and the secrets to building real relationships. 🤯 Don't miss out on this powerful conversation filled with humor, honesty, and actionable advice. Watch now and subscribe for more insider secrets! 📺 Hit that subscribe button and stay tuned for more eye-opening stories on the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! 🚀 Join the conversation and share your thoughts below! 👇🔥 CHAPTERS: 00:00 - How To Enjoy The Internet 04:56 - Today's Sponsor 05:49 - Bro Science and Fitness 07:15 - Increasing Testosterone and DHT 09:58 - EMF Radiation Effects 13:39 - Sex and Orgasm Myths 22:50 - Patience in Relationships 24:30 - Improving Fingering Techniques 30:30 - Fixing the Dating Market 34:08 - Challenges in Dating Apps 38:57 - Partner's Career and Relationships 40:14 - Economic Issues in Dating 42:17 - Defining Partner Preferences 44:25 - Considering Parenthood 45:20 - Beliefs About Marriage 47:21 - Future Plans and Goals APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: [e-mail] GUEST: Stirling Cooper https://www.instagram.com/stirlingcooper SPONSORS: AIRES TECH:  https://airestech.com/ LUMATI: https://www.lumati.com/dsh LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ #jimrohnmotivation #selfimprovement #etfs #selfhelp #hamza

It's like, it's kind of democratized, if you want to call it democratized, like influence. It's really, people say it's toxic and it's, which is correct. It is, yeah. It is a bit toxic and stuff, but yeah. I don't know, ride the tiger, man. You gotta, you gotta enjoy that. You gotta have fun with it. You can't take it too serious. Completely. Yeah, if you take it too seriously, you'll be like in a depressive black hole. Absolutely.

black hole. Absolutely. All right guys. He is back. Sterling Cooper. One of my first guests ever. I think, man, it's been a while. It has been a while. Yeah. He said, you said two years, right? Two years, but I think you were within the first couple hundred episodes. That flew by. Yeah, man. Bro. What you've been up to same old, same old. Oh yeah. Bounced around doing a lot of podcasts. Um, still working. Still working, still flying around a bunch. I moved, I spent about a bunch of time in the south of Spain. Nice. In the last couple of years, I did like a fight camp out there. Really?

And then did like a, like a white collar boxing fight. So you actually fought? Yeah. How'd it go? You win? I won. Yeah. Yeah. So you want to get more into boxing? I've been boxing since then. Yeah. I sort of started boxing a little bit before that. And then, you know, eventually the opportunity came, presented itself. I was like, you know what? Yes. If I'm, you know, when you sort of get into something, you keep telling yourself you're going to take it more seriously.

And it was like someone presented me the opportunity, a friend, Luke Barnett. It was like, look, we're doing this like, you know, fight club thing. Like, yes. Because if I don't say, if I don't say yes now, and that was at what, one of my 38, that was like 35, 36 years old. If I don't say now, yes, now, I'm never going to say yes to an opportunity like this later on. And it's kind of interesting.

I've got a few friends in like Dubai who do like, you know, charity, like fight clubs and stuff now. And I'm seeing a lot of guys getting into it. It's really good. I like it. I mean the money in it's pretty crazy these days with Dubai and Saudi, the fighting. Oh, when they get like big crypto guys in to do it. Boxing. Yeah, that's interesting. That's interesting. But it's, I think, I honestly think the reason I did it is because if I have, I want to, when I have a kid, I want, I don't have kids yet, but when I have a kid,

I want him to like learn how to fight. You know, I think it's a very good foundational skill, good confidence builder, good athleticism builder for like any young man to take up. And it's like, if dad hasn't stepped in the ring, how can he look at me? Like look at me with respect. How can he expect me to tell him what to do? So look, I'm going to have to do it. Yeah. You know, so went out and did it. It's good to have that confidence in your back pocket too. I bet. Yeah. It's interesting. You know what, you know what I realized is I'm going to have to do it. Yeah. You know, so I went out and did it. Yeah. It's good to have that confidence in your back pocket too. I bet.

Yeah. It's interesting. You know what, you know what I realized is I'm like, to be fair, the guy I fought, fair credit to him. I beat him, but he was like objectively a better boxer. Oh really? I just had a better strategy. Like, but I think, I think just, just, he punched harder than I felt.

Yeah. Than I felt like I was punching him. I think he was a better fighter technically, but I just got him. So that, and it was weird. Like even though I won, I was like humbled at the same time. Yeah. What was the strategy with him? I just went, like, I was a pressure fighter. Apply pressure. I applied a lot of pressure. I turned it into a brawl.

I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't let it fall into like a technical fight because if I fought, if it fall, if it was like a technical, you know, you know, timing, waiting for your moment to strike, like I would have lost. Yeah. I think if I was like, stuff this, I'm just going to go push them against the ropes, you know, pressure and pressure and pressure him. Yeah. He was a bit, he had a bit more length on me. It was about your height, like a bit of a skinny kid, but Lee had like a lot of range on him. So yeah.

That's why Floyd was so good. He just kept it tactical. Floyd is like, you watch him, man. He's like the best defensive boxer ever. He's incredible. Yeah. Like I love that Philly shell style, but I'm just not that, not that quick. You got some time. Yeah. Did you have to give up sex before the fight? I didn't have sex. I didn't, I like no fap and didn't have sex for like, I think a no fap for like probably the good, yeah, probably a good couple of months. And I didn't have sex for like probably a good two weeks leading up to the fight.

And for you, that's like a record. Maybe it's a record. I don't really kept track of that before. But it was, yeah, it, it, it, it felt good, man. Like just letting all that like tension and like energy just build up in you, you know? Keeps you focused, keeps you dialed in, stops you from fucking around, like keeps your diet on point, keeps your training on point.

Like it was cool. My first few years of business, entrepreneurship, I didn't fap, I didn't have sex. It gets to the point where you just finish in your sleep, honestly. Right, right, right. Because you're months in. You've got the uh,

Wet dreams. The whole wet dream thing going on. Yeah, but you're dialed in like that. When you're in that work mode, dude, you can channel that sexual energy into like a lot of progress. Yeah, man. It's an old school term. People call it like woo woo and whatever. Like, okay, I don't think it's gonna make you fly, you know? But I do think there is like something to it.

Um, there's a reason a lot of like athletes, professional fighters, they don't have sex. is going to make you fly, you know? I do think there is like something to it. There's a reason a lot of like athletes, professional fighters, they don't have sex. They abstain before a big game or a big fight or whatever. You know, guys have been doing it for forever. I think there's a... Bro science is like, I trust... Shout out to today's sponsor, Lumadi Red.

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A lot of bro science over like conventional stuff, like conventional studies or conventional things I might see in like the news and the media. I'll definitely trust bro science over everything else. I feel that. Yeah. Have you measured your testosterone levels ever? Ages ago, ages ago, I did like a bunch of TRTs. I can't, I can't tell you like how, what my levels were to be perfectly honest, because they actually, cause they use different, they use different like measurements in like,

in Australia versus here. Oh, they do? Yeah, like it's like, it's like nanograms for decalator one place and then it's like something else in other places. They use a different measurement. I'm sure it's not an issue for you anyways. Yeah, I mean, I'm not, I'm not like super, super high T to be perfectly honest.

I'm not super high T. I think I am relatively high DHT though. So, and a lot of people contribute like balding to DHT, but that's not entirely the case. Like DHT is kind of like all the things that people think testosterone does for you, like all these super like masculine, hyper-aggressive like traits, it's actually DHT. It does a lot of that stuff, like all these super like masculine hyper-aggressive traits,

it's actually DHT. It does a lot of that stuff like assertiveness, confidence, I think like work ethics, sex drive, a lot of these things are actually more related to DHT than strictly testosterone. If you increase your testosterone, you're going to typically increase DHT. Some of it is gonna convert. But if you're a guy with like regular testosterone, but like high DHT, you're probably a lot more driven. Damn, I need to measure my DHT levels. It's interesting, it's super interesting.

I did not know that. Cause like, I believe if I'm getting the chemistry correct, your testosterone can convert to like either estrogen or DHT, you know, one or the other. Yeah, a lot of high estrogen right now and guys. A lot of dudes are high estrogen. Yeah. You know, a lot of, a lot of things, like people try to tackle things like, um, sexual imbibing globulin like SHBG with things like stinging nettle root and stuff to try and increase that like free testosterone. But the problem,

but then sometimes that free testosterone can convert. Um, yeah, like I said, to estrogen, estrogen dialol maybe and DHT. I think the big problem with the overestrogenification of nudes is more, it's like we're being attacked on all fronts. You've got estradiol in the municipal water supply. The birth control. Which comes from birth control. That's in the shower water, that's in the municipal water supply, the birth control, which comes from birth control. That's in the shower water, that's in the drinking water.

That's in like, so if you're going to filter your water, you know, you might drink filtered water or whatever. But if you're showering in it, your skin is like your biggest organ. You're still going to absorb, you know, it's, you know, fat cells and stuff. That's where it's showing daily. Exactly. Like, so it's kind of hard to avoid all of the stuff.

Like, I've heard, I've heard some other stuff recently, like like EMF signals, like wifi and stuff and phones and stuff. Yeah. Really screw with like your balls. Really? Really screw with like your sperm. Yeah. I got the, I don't know if these help, but I got the Aries tech.

Oh yeah. I don't know if it helps. I know people who carry their shit around in a Faraday bag. Oh yeah. Just to completely like. I have one next to me in bed because I don't want to sleep next to my phone. Yeah, like I know some people who recommend

like turning off wifi when you sleep, like having a timer on the wifi, like turning to try to get that off. But it's probably like, that's all well and good, but it's probably still like getting in through your walls and your windows from all your neighbors. Yeah, if you're living in a high rise, you're screwed. You're pretty much screwed, man.

So it's like, damn, how do you get away from all this stuff? And like the only conclusion I've come to is like live in the middle of nowhere. You live in the middle of nowhere, live in a farm, which is not good for business. Which isn't good for business. Unfortunately. Yeah. So I'm in, I'm in the process of trying to figure out how to do that transition. Exactly. Yeah. I think we're at the point now where we accept it. We just got to detox as much as possible.

It's, it's hard. Like it's in all that stuff. And then you got, then you got lots of phytoestrogens in the food we eat. Like how's the food in Australia? Is it any better? I think the food in Australia is fantastic. Okay. Now it is getting a bit worse. They just introduced some stupid thing.

It's a chemical called Bovair, which was supposed to like Bovair. It's not Bovair. They feed to the cows to stop the cows from farting. Really? To reduce methane. Why does that matter? Yeah, exactly. It's a good question. Why does that matter? It's for climate change or something. Ever thought about how much EMF and radiation your body is exposed to every single day? From smartphones to Wi-Fi, modern technology never stops emitting invisible stressors that could disrupt the brain function, hormone balance, and cellular health. That's where Aries comes in. The only scientifically validated solution designed to help your body

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Yeah. Cause if you're stopping the farting, the gas is still in the body. Yeah. It's, you can't screw with nature, you know? I've been diving into a lot of, this is not what anyone would expect me to know about. I've been diving a lot into like soil health. like permaculture and agriculture and stuff and the way you use animals on the land. And it's just like nature has all the answers, man. Like everything is so, everything has a, as a, as a role to play in a system and it's so perfectly interconnected.

And if you just let it, you just let nature do what it's, what it's, what it does best, you know, like I know, like I know in certain parts of like, I'm not sure about here, but definitely in Australia, they've got like problems with like Blackberry bushes and stuff, like, you know, going nuts and you see people coming in and just put goats on them and the goats just eat them up. Really? And like, cool, this weed is no longer a problem. And then you get pigs through, the pigs root around, dig up the roots, cool, problem gone, put grass in there again, happy days.

It's just like using animals to like, and I think we lost a lot of this knowledge. Like our ancestors do all this shit. They did a lot of this stuff or they learned all of this stuff through trial and error. And now we think we can just sort of like, impose like chemicals or in the case of humans, we can just impose pharmaceuticals onto us and we'll fix the problem. But the problem is really just fixed with diet and lifestyle in a lot of ways

with humans at least. Like we can't, if you come back to basics, like you pretty much, everyone wants like to shortcut shit, you know, like take TIT, take a different peptide, do this special thing, do that special thing. It's like, have you considered just like turning off your phone, not staring at your computer screen, like, like, you know, maybe living somewhere where you're not, there's no like light pollution and you can get like darkness in your bedroom.

Like I went home, I'm from like the Southwest of WA and I went to stay with my dad, with my, like my home, my family, family, where I grew up. And I had the best sleep of my life. I'm like, like window shades, like wide open and it's pitch black. There's like nothing, there's nobody around. There's nothing there. It's just it, when it's nighttime, it's nighttime. And it's, it's crazy how much something as subtle as that can, can massively impact your health and your sleep and thus your testosterone

and everything else. Just the light pollution. Just the light pollution, bro. That's crazy. I just went to Sedona, similar, best sleep of my life. You could see all the stars over there. Like in Vegas, I mean, just so much light pollution and whatever else is not.

This is the city of neon lights, you know? Yeah, I mean, you got the Lugzer beaming up to the moon. That's where I'm staying, right? Oh, the Lugzer? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was the first hotel I ever stayed up to the moon. That's where I'm staying. Right. Oh, the lugs are. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's a, that was the first hotel I ever stayed in Vegas. Yeah. It's like a rite of passage. It's interesting. Cause they got like a, I like, I just like it cause it's close to the airport,

but they got like the elevators are like diagonal. Yeah. Cause it's like a pyramid. Cause it's a pyramid. Yeah. It's funny, bro. Uh, so that, that fighting stuff kind of counteracts with your actual work then, huh? Yeah. Compliments. I think. You think so? Yeah, yeah, like I, because I never got into fighting. And I knew a bunch of people who were fighters before I started doing boxing. Yeah. And I'm, you know, I'm just amateur or whatever.

Just, just do it as a hobby. But of all the guys I know who have a background in fighting or who have fought for a long time, none of them ever had any problems with what you would call like performance anxiety. It's like when a dude's like a bit too shy and, and, and anxious and nervous when he's with a woman and he can't get it, get his dick up. Fighters didn't seem to have that problem. Just from when I'm like, cause these are the guys, these guys talk to me about this shit behind closed doors.

Cause they're not going to talk about it like openly, you know, out there in the real world. Cause I'm the sec, I'm the sex guy. Right? So they'll come to me and like, going to talk about it like openly, you know, out there in the real world. And they'll, because I'm the sec, I'm the sex guy, right? So they'll come to me and like, they'll talk about this and that and maybe having a different problem over here or there. But if they ever had a problem, it was never that, it was never like they're too anxious to get it up. Cause if you think about it, like man getting punk, getting your head kicked in or getting punched in the face or getting like choked like, you know, or your arm ripped off, it's a bit,

it's nowhere near as like, it's, it's, it's a lot more, uh, that is a lot more intimidating, a lot more extreme, like then, oh, does this woman think I'm, I'm sexy? Does this woman like, you know, care what I look like? Make my pants off. Plus the confidence you get from it. Bro, it's, it's, it all ties in together, man. So I think, I think for guys, like I couldn't encourage it enough, Like learn some kind of muscle up. Well, I just had Tate on and he said for all his children, they're going to be fighters.

Like it's not negotiable for his children. Yeah. And it kind of makes sense. I mean, he did it, you know, it worked for him. You get the confidence from it. Yeah. Like I spent my whole youth playing basketball and I kind of, I kind of wish, and it turns out my dad actually used to box in the army.

Oh wow. And he never told me this until I was like an adult. Damn. For some reason that topic never came up And I kind of, I kind of wish, and it turns out my dad actually used to box in the army. And he never told me this until I was like an adult. For some reason that topic never came up and I'm kind of pissed at him. Cause he could have taught me and I'm like, I wish I actually think it would, I mean, yeah, I got a lot of athleticism and I've got good balance and staff from like playing basketball, good, good, like situational awareness, spatial awareness. You know, there's certain skills that come with every sport, right? But I think if I throw in a little bit of boxing here and there would have been

way better. I feel that I'm playing tomorrow morning if you want to come. Oh yeah. Yeah. You still play? It's been a long time. Been a while. Been a long time. I'm not as explosive as I used to be. It's tough on the knees as you get older, man. I sprained my dude, I'm only 28, but now when I sprained my ankle, it takes a week to heal. When I was like 18, I'd be fine the next day. It's crazy how the body ages so fast.

I've done both angles like about four times. Oh, that's it? That's actually not that bad. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Steph Curry be rolling them like once a week. You watch the NBA at all or no? Not so much. I mean March Madness is on right now. I actually, I actually don't. I s you know, what the thing is when I moved to America, I stopped playing and I stopped watching. Really? Yeah. Wow. It was weird.

Like I just got so heavily into, you know, I was just working with the adult stuff, you know, and didn't really have a connection to like play any pickup games and I didn't really have time to commit to it because the schedule is just so erratic. Yeah. Like you never know when you're going to be working. So I couldn't really like lock anything in in particular. So it was just like, okay, Jim, things like CrossFit or whatever. That makes sense.

Yeah. Have you shot with Lilly Phillips yet? I have not. No, I had, I had Bonnie blue message me, but I think she wanted, but Bonnie, Bonnie blue wanted me to like interview her for like YouTube and stuff. This is actually pre that pre thousand, the thousand, the record breaker, whatever. I think, look, I, I kind of, I don't know if it was like a Guinness world record guy in the room when both of those girls are doing their thing. I just, I doubt the logistics.

You don't, you don't think I have it. I have, I have my suspicions about the logistics of like actually, okay, well, let's, let's have this conversation. What counts as having sex? I think is it the Dick in, is that it? Is it, does he has to, does the guy have to finish? Is it, does a hand job count? Does a blow job count, right? So like, if she's getting through like, where is she set in the benchmark for what counts

is like having been with the dude, you know what I mean? For me, I interpreted it as they finished. That's a new sex. And I think most guys would make that interpretation. But I don't think that was the case. That'd be very hard to do in a day. Thousand different guys. That's precisely the point.

A hundred maybe, if you're really freaking good, which they probably are, they got a lot of experience, but a thousand. You'd be surprised, bro. I've had some, I've been with some porn stars and their blow job game is trash. Wow. It's like, it hurts.

It's disappointing. Yeah. It's not a case like that's a misconception. Like, and I'm not trying to shit on porn stars. Like a lot of them are like, they're fantastic. Like they're lovely ladies. Like for all like the things that guys online, when I like, you know, shit on porn stars and the degenerate and the, you know, maybe setting a bad example and stuff. Cool. They may be, you could say they're misguided, but you couldn't,

I wouldn't say that I would not call them bad people. Like they're lovely ladies. Yeah. And some of them, they predominantly like work for the camera. Like everything's for the camera, you know, like, so all this, like, it's a, it's a show job, not a blow job. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's about the angle, right? It's about like the performance and how it looks. That's unnecessarily mean. It feels like 10 out of 10, you know? I've had like civilian girls who give way better head than a bunch of porn stars I've been with. That makes sense. Yeah. I think, what's that all saying? Don't ever meet your heroes. Yeah, I've heard that. You know, so if you're like an average dude, you think, oh, I get this opportunity to go sleep sleep with so-and-so in a, in a gangbang or

whatever. You probably, it's probably going to be very average. Damn. Just telling you. Have you slept with a fan? Not a fan. No, but I've worked with a few girls who, when I was like 18, they were 18 and they were in porn. And so I, like, when I was 18, I FAP to them and I ended up working with them like 12 years later. And was it disappointing? Two out of the three were great. And the third one was a disappointment.

Yeah. That's not bad. It's not bad. Yeah. But I had the disappointing one first. And so I was like, oh man, are they all gonna be like this? I think when you put people on a pedestal, no matter what they do, you just have this idea of them. You can never reach that. No, no, no. Yeah. Completely. Yeah. No one, no one ever lives up to your expectations. It's kind of funny.

Like being friends with a lot of like big influences, like guys like you guys, like just a baller. You know, you know, you know, the Tate stuff. I've hung out with the Tate's and stuff before, like Myron Gaines, Fresh and Fit, these guys. It's like everyone's, they're just, everyone's the people, Everyone's a person. It's like no one has like, you know, magical mind reading abilities or anything like that. There's nothing,

there's nothing ostensibly different about them. They're still human beings. But it's kind of funny the way that people will get like, you know, intimidated by a guy, you know, and they'll like, you'll see it. Like they go up and shake his hand and they're shaking and then the stuff like that. And I remember thinking like, was there ever a time when I, I kind of felt like that for like a celebrity. And I can only think back to like, I met like a famous

author once that I was a big fan of. And I remember shaking his hand and I was like kind of, you know, intimidated by him. And that was when I was like probably 14. Yeah. And since then I'm like, you know what, as an, as a grown man, as an adult, I don't think. I don't think so. There's a lot of respect when that happens. Well, yeah, definitely. If you're trying to make an impression on somebody, if you want to, to network with a guy like that, easiest way to stand out is to not be intimidated by them, right? Treat them like a goddamn human being. It's the easiest way to not pedestalize them.

It's like, it's, you know, people might think that like, you know, by putting them on a pedestal like, it's, you know, people might think that like, you know, by putting them on a pedestal, kissing their ass, um, you know, bending over backwards to do things for them would make you stand out. It's actually the communal opposite. If their first question is, can I get a photo? I already know it's not. Yeah. I'm not saying no. I never say no to that. I won't deny it, but I know that it's, you know,

Yeah. It's interesting to be fair. Like, yeah, there's it's, it's, it's hit and miss sometimes when I, when, it's very rare that a guy comes up to me and can like, and I'm not, you know, I'm like Mr. Big Show, but can like offer some kind of value, you know, versus him wanting some value in return. Exactly. Oh, I can handle your social media marketing. Got guys for that already, bro. We're doing this for a while. Like if I want someone for that position, I just, I make a post on social media and then I see who comes and hits me up.

You know what I mean? Yeah. I don't like, I get hit up by a lot of like email marketers, social media marketers, video editors, like every day. Editors for days. Every day, every day, every day. And it's like, okay, if you're that guy, that's your position, I know you're trying to get, trying to get your foot in the door, cool. I'm probably not the guy that's gonna give you your start. Just being honest, or a guy like you.

Because we're a bit too far ahead. Find the guys that are kind of just starting out, they're just learning the ropes. Those are the guys you're gonna have a much better chance with and prove yourself. Yeah, you need a track record. Now when I hire editors, I ask who have you worked for? Yeah, precisely.

Yeah, because I'm paying well these days. And like, if you don't have a good track record, I need views, I need results. I don't want shitty quality clips from India or something. Yeah, a lot of my team, like I end up getting them from like other creators, other guys in my network. Like, hey, do you know someone who's, who's available now? Do you know someone who you're not working with anymore, but you know,

they were great. Like that's most of my highs. Exactly. Come from that. Uh, I went through your Twitter. I wanted to talk about a few interesting tweets. My tweets, my Twitter spice. Yeah.

You've been popping off. You tweeted out, uh, good things come to those who wait is shit advice. It's trash advice. Bro. Well, I, why, what are you waiting for? Like no one's not the world. I wait for you. Of course it's trash advice. Bro, what are you waiting for? Like the world ain't waiting for you. Of course it's shit advice.

Like we heard that all the time as kids. It's like, I think it was trying to encourage kids to be like patient and yeah, you should be patient, but you can be patient whilst actually working. Like good things actually come when you do, when you take consistent daily actions. That's the only way you're going to get good stuff. You know, like that whole, I think that kind of that I remember, you remember the secret. You remember that book, the movie, right? Yeah. Like a doc.

He was like a movie about it and stuff. It was also a book. And they talked about like manifesting stuff. My sister got into that. And I'm like, no, like, no, like you're not going to manifest your dream car. Like you have to actually like go and like do some research, price it out, but get a car loan, put some work. He's not going to, he's not going to magically shop at your door. That's the first step. Yeah. Like people treat that as the whole process manifesting with the first step is

to visualize and manifest, but then actually work from there. Completely. Like there is a, there is like a point to manifestation and I do it like I always like visualize and picture like where I want to be with a goal or the action steps I'm taking, or like if I'm, if I'm going to be speaking on stage, I'm visualizing myself speaking on stage like weeks before the event or something like that. Right. But I'm not, that's not the only prep that I'm doing. Like I'm actually writing a speech, you know, I'm actually going over it.

I'm making sure my notes are there. Like there's more to it than just like woo woo and wishful thinking. Absolutely. Most guys suck at fingering. They do suck at fingering. You need to take some notes from lesbians. Lesbians know what they're doing.

Lesbian, you know, like notice how my nails are always cut? All trimmed. Yeah. My nails are trimmed bro. Like they're always like that. You know, gunk under your nails. It's like you're just asking to give, you're asking to give her a UTI. That's a turnoff. If you got like gunk on your nails and women,

you don't think women pick up on this shit. Like women, how many times is it? Honest question. How many times have you ever actually like paid attention to the shoes a woman's wearing? I don't. Correct. No straight man does. However, I guarantee every woman you've ever, you've ever been out on a date with has checked out your shoes Hmm, and she's probably checked out the shoes of every single woman in the restaurant. You've been to wow, right? So you don't think she's also checking your fingernails like little little subtle things like that because she like she's thinking steps ahead You know, I mean, yeah

But then in terms of fingering like dudes think it's fingering is like finger blasting like like your finger Like you're fucking her with your finger. As if it's like a small penis. That's not where you're, there's not really the point of fingering. Like there's different spots inside the vaginal walls, which are very sensitive spots. Obviously you've got, everyone knows about the G spot, but then you've got like a bit further back.

You've got the A spot and the O spot, but around the cervix and stuff, you can get in there and manipulate with your fingers. These spots is actually really, it's kind of like the ultimate female biohack. If you can get to the back of the cervix, like underneath and or on top of the cervix, you can literally do the cum hither on the same, on these sort of spots at the back of the vagina, which literally trigger the muscles that happen when she naturally orgasms. No way.

So you're actually biohacking an orgasm out of her. She can't, she won't be able to actually help it. Now you have to make sure you get the, you get the spot right. And if you're, if you've got big hands, it can be quite difficult to do this. So it's actually better if you're a smaller guy. This is like, you know, everyone talks about women loving height. Yeah. Yeah. Big height tends to come with bigger hands. So if you're actually a short king, this is your like secret trick. Okay. You might have smaller hands. You can get them a bit deeper back and do a little bit of come here, the stuff underneath the cervix man. If you watch, just

watch her body language, just pay attention to it. That'll, that'll tell you if you're in the right spot. That'll do everything for you, but you can literally like trigger an orgasm from that because you're stimulating the same muscles that spasm when she has those contractions, you just hacking it. Wow. I've never been back there. That's right. It's fun.

You got to put me onto the instant orgasm trigger, huh? It's like within like 30 seconds. Most guys can't make their girls finish from fingering. No, well, because they're doing like finger blasts some shit like a teenager. They're like, no, like everyone's still using the same sex advice that they heard when they were like 16. Yeah.

From like Cosmo magazine, which is all trash. The ABCs. Bro, that shit pisses me off. Oh, like spell the alphabet on her clitoris. Are you fucking retarded? Imagine like put yourself in like, like switch roles for a second, right? If a chick was going down on you, right? And she just changed what she was doing every five fucking seconds. Yeah. And like what, like maybe she gets to the letter S Sean and like, yes,

that's the one. And then she moves on and you're like, no, go back to like what you were doing. Like that's kind of what you're doing with your spell and the alphabet on a clip. 100%. Just like, look, the secret to like the clip is if you're looking straight down the barrel, shall we say it's about one o'clock, the sweet spot for 90% of women is like one o'clock on the, on the vaginal clock. Interesting. If I'm looking at your logo here, actually, it's like, it's actually perfect.

It's just to the right of your head as I'm looking at you. That's funny. But one o'clock is that like that sweet spot. That's where you kind of want to pay most of attention. And obviously we tease and we build up. We don't go straight for the clitoris. Like you want to warm things up guys, like a bit of subtlety, a bit of nuance, have fun with it. A lot of like, speaking of Twitter, I see it's guaranteed Twitter engagement. Make a comment about like going guys, going down on women. Yeah. Like guarantee, you'll, you'll divide the internet. This is something I never expected to see ever is like,

there's a whole camp of dudes on Twitter who think that going down on a woman, um, women in women, interpret it as like supplicative submissive behavior. And my argument to that is like, God, like don't, don't do things if you don't want to do them. Like if you're a guy, you don't enjoy going and going down on your chick, don't do it. Simple as that. Like you should only be doing it if you have, if you're for the love of the game. Right. Simple as that. If you enjoy getting like getting your woman off that way, cool.

Don't listen to autistic spooks on the internet. If you aren't into it, then don't do it. It's, it's, it's that simple. It's that simple. I think a lot of people, yeah, take internet advice too seriously and it's predominantly from anonymous accounts as well. Yeah. On Twitter. Yeah. When you think about it, like the amount of a non it's kind of crazy. They met of a non accounts on Twitter with actual like pull is pretty, is pretty impressive. It's a, it's a good thing and a bad thing. Cause it's a good thing. Cause it allows you to a non like think of,

put us crazy, right? Think about it. Like any person on earth can directly comment on and talk to effectively the most powerful people on earth. Like Elon Musk, you can literally tweet him or comment under something he says, and he might see it. He might. And not only that, you might out ratio him. It's happened. Exactly. It's right. He's been out ratio before. So Twitter is the only place on earth you can do that? It's like, it's kind of democratized if you want to call it democratized, like influence.

Yeah. It's really interesting. It's fine. You never know what you'll see on Twitter. It's fun. That's why I like it. People say it's toxic and it's, which is correct. It is. It is a bit toxic and stuff, but yeah, I don't know. Ride the tiger, man. You gotta, you gotta enjoy that. You gotta have fun with it. You can't take it too serious. Completely. Yeah.

If you take seriously, you'll be like in a depressive black hole. Absolutely. So I looked up the stats because this was curious, like of male virgins, right? In their twenties and it's there's conflicting stuff, but I'm seeing around 30 to 40%. That's what I've seen. Yeah. That's super high, right? I feel like in your, when you were coming up, it was much lower.

Yeah. Everyone like, you know, everyone, everyone, uh, it would have had a girlfriend. Yeah. Like, not everyone, but like it was easier to, easier to get a girlfriend. And I think, you know what, I, you know what I think it was? Women look smatched, you know? Like if she wasn't, she was like, if she was mid, she would date a guy who's mid. Now you've got a lot of mids thinking they deserve a celebrity, thinking they deserve an athlete, thinking they deserve a rapper, thinking they deserve a dude who makes 300k a year, whatever. Like they're,

they're, their worldview, their expectations are vastly different to what reality is. And that's because we have a globalized dating marketplace, like, you know, the girl in Ohio, if she's pretty, she's the prettiest girl in her town. She can jump on Instagram, take a few flashy photos, and then she's probably going to end up in the feed of some celebrity somewhere. And he might like a photo, he might DM her every now and then. Obviously that doesn't happen every time,

but she is going to get a warped perception of how attractive she is. You know, you've ever heard the expression like, you know, she's like, uh, she's like a middle American, like 10, but she's like a Miami six. You know, it's kind of like that, you know? And so that's, that's what we've created. I think if I was like universal dictator of the world tomorrow and I could snap my fingers and change something, if I want, if I, if someone came to me and said, how do you fix that problem? How do you fix like what you could call the male loneliness epidemic? The,

the con the, the Pareto distribution of men and women dating, right? How do we reset this thing and get things back to like a more equitable, normal, like healthy area? I think the solution is you would have to delete Instagram, like the app would have to go and you would have to outlaw women having phones with cameras. Wow. But think about this for a second. Every, like women turn every social media app into a dating app because what they do,

you give them, in fact, they sexualize themselves on every social media account given enough time you give like not every woman obviously, but a lot of them end up doing this. You give them a phone with a camera on it and they take take photos and put those photos everywhere. They do it on Twitter. They do it on Facebook. They do it on Snapchat. They do it on Instagram. They do it on YouTube. They do it everywhere. When you give women the internet and you give them a camera, they eventually just end up sexualizing themselves.

Now note they don't all turn into like only fans models or go down even further and become porn stars and escorts and stuff like that, obviously. But they sexualize themselves a lot. You look at the average woman's Instagram account, there's going to be a bikini pick in there somewhere. There's going to be like her posing in a certain way to show off her ass. If she's got titties, she's going to be showing her titties. You know, like she's showing the cleavage off in a certain way. They know how to take photos and they know how to take photos that sexualize themselves. So, you know, you can, you can, you could say that what I just said is a bit, a bit controversial, but it's,

it's true. They sexualize themselves no matter what. Yeah. So I think the only, if you really wanted to like fix it like that, that would be the solution. It would probably help. It would work, you know, but we're never going to do that. Yeah. It's not realistic. It's never going to happen. It's not realistic. Precisely. It's not realistic. So we're, we're never going to do that. Yeah. It's not realistic. It's not realistic. Precisely. It's not realistic. So we're, we're in this, we've opened up a can of worms. We're in this weird scenario now where the average guy has to work a lot harder, a lot, lot harder to have dating options than he used then, then one generation ago, two generations ago.

I heard the apps are rough these days. The dating apps. I mean, Tinder is like mostly bots anyway. Yeah. I know a lot of guys who, not a lot, I know a handful of guys who run like OF management agencies and they run bots on the Tinder to get people to their only fans. Yeah, I've heard that.

You know? So like it's, and then the next dating app comes along and that dies, like Bumble's like trash now. Yeah. It was. H hinge was hard. I don't know if it still is. Hinge was good. Like last year, like the last two years, I'd had a lot of success on hinge. Now it feels like it's dying. You know, there might be something like, what's the next dating app going to be? It's going to be called going outside, actually going out and talking to people in real life.

Did you ever get on Raya? I've never even heard of that. It's an exclusive one. Okay. Yeah. You need a social media's an exclusive one. OK. Yeah. You need a social media following. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah, but I don't want to date a girl with a social media following. That's true. You know, that'd be tough.

Like, I feel like that's that's like that's a bad. Like, that's a win for the chick because she gets access to a dude who's like got a big following. Right. But I don't want a girl who's got, you know, tens of thousands of followers, like thirsting up in her DM. Why would I want that?

Yeah. You want a low key chick. I want a girl who's like off the radar of anything. You know, I'm the, I'm like, I don't want both of our lives to be broadcast everywhere. Public relationships never work out. Or they're just, they're just so susceptible to attack. Right. Because think about it, if everyone knows that's your chick, that's the first target they're going after. Like if,

if you say something controversial on the internet, you have an opinion people don't like, first thing they're going to do is they're going to go through your chicks past and they're going to try and use it against you. Look, look at exactly what happened with Logan Paul, the Logan Paul fight. Oh, he's going to bring that up. Exactly what happened. And it's cool. Like, and everyone, everyone was like, you know, clapping, clapping the other guy on, but what was his name?

Fuck, I forgot his name. Was it Dylan Dennis? Dylan Dennis. Yeah. Everyone was, you know, cheering him on. Cause he's like, you know, cause people like to hate on Logan Paul. Yeah. But it's like that can happen to anybody with a woman,

with a big social media following. Right. So do you care a lot about your partner's past? Like, yeah, I don't, I mean, it's, the number doesn't matter as much as people would think. I don't think the actual like objective number. And also she's never going to tell you the number. Yeah, they're going to lie about it.

Like, look at the, what did we say before about the whole Lily Phillips gangbang thing, right? Yeah. How many of them actually put the dick in? How many of them ejaculated inside of it versus hand jobs and blow jobs, right? Guarantee you when a girl tells you her body count, she ain't talking about blow jobs. No fucking guarantee. Definitely not guaranteed. And then you go, go a step further.

Are you talking about making out? Definitely not. Definitely not. They will never count that. But if I was like taking things into consideration, like that, that is important. You know what I mean? So you're never going to get the real number. Okay. What is a better indicator? I think is like, how, does she follow your lead? Does she follow your like instructions? Even though her, uh, she gets, she, she might not feel like doing it. Right.

It's basically a test of, it's like a measure of like, you might call that loyalty. You might call that submission, call it whatever you want. But it's like, look, how much crap are you going to give me as we, as I just tried to steer this ship in this direction, pretty much like, just trust me. I know what I'm doing. I've got a plan. We're going this way. Hop on board, you know? And it's like, I think if you're, cause you'll get the same woman will give two guys, two totally different guys, a very different version of herself. You know? Like

average average Joe over here, like she might start to like really test him and really push, like be naggy, like try to get away with bullshit, like, you know, go out and party with her girlfriends and stuff, you know? But then she gets with a guy over here who like has some balls, has sets boundaries, has like has a lot of self-esteem, knows what he wants and knows what he's willing to accept. And more importantly, he's willing to walk away if she, if she doesn't like step in the line.

Oh, magically, all of a sudden she's staying at home. Magically, she doesn't want the girls nights out anymore. Or magically all of a sudden she ain't nagging as much anymore. Oh, now she's decided to like cook and clean and iron his clothes and shit. Like you can get two different men will produce a very different outcome from the same woman. That's true. You know? So I think like the number itself, yeah, it's a good indicator,

but you're never going to know what it actually is. And a better indicator of like where you measure up relative to the other guys in her past is how well she behaves with you. Yeah. That's a good test. Are you traditional when it comes to finances? Do you want your girl working at all? God no. I made my last girl quit a job. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Cause I can, I can handle this. You know, it's not a comp. It's not that hard. Yeah. You know, now I'm lucky. I have a, I have a, you know, above average income and things like that.

But I think I also don't really try to provide like a super lab ish lifestyle. Like we'll go on holiday. I'll take her on holidays. We'll go, go do some cool shit. But that's like, but that's all I already want to do that. Or I'm already doing that, you know, or if I'm coming out to Vegas and a podcast, I'll call it going to Vegas. Like it's already part of my lifestyle anyway, rather than me try, like I'm not running around buying her a book and I'm not running around like, you know, taking a shopping all the time and stuff like that. And I think a lot of girls, they need for a woman,

if a woman wants to have that like stay at home lifestyle, I think a lot of women do, I think a lot more women would actually be perfectly happy being a stay at home wife and a mother than having to go through the goddamn rat race. Like, how honest to God, how many women actually want to spend an hour a day in traffic commuting to work and then another hour at the end of the day, coming home. How many actually want to do that? I'd say fucking none, honestly,

but because like the dating problem, like the dating, the, this, this whole thing we're talking about, it's actually an economic problem. If the money wasn't funny, right? If it wasn't inflated all hell and printed at whim, it would actually be worth something. And you might actually be able to provide for a family on a one income household like two generations, three generations ago were able to, right? You know, like a single,

a regular average job could afford a home and afford a wife and afford a family of kids and a car and all this stuff. Good luck doing that now. Hell no. Right? So it's actually an economic problem. Like women are, and it's like guys in America, especially talk about like American women being like really masculine, right? Yeah. Well, that's a byproduct of the situation we're in. Like when you feel threatened, when you are like stressed about paying your mortgage,

like women are like, if a woman's in that situation, she has to be more masculine to handle it, to deal with it. So it's a result, it's all downstream from having shit money, honestly. That's a good point. People don't talk about this leading to dating issues, but it's a hundred percent true. Cause if you look at other countries

that aren't dealing with economic problems, the women are still feminine. Or even like maybe they've got, maybe their economy isn't where ours is, but like the relative standard, the standard of living that is expected is nowhere near as high. Like America has had a great for a long time. So the standard of that, that is expected as much higher, you know, you go to maybe somewhere in South America

where the standard is not as high, but maybe they might be a little bit, and don't get me wrong, I know South Latin, Latin American women, fuck around. I know this. Those Latinos. But they can also be quite Catholic in there. And a little, you would say on average,

a lot more traditional than some of the party girls you might find in a city like Vegas or a city like Miami or whatever. Yeah. Well, Miami is mostly Latinos anyway. I would never date a girl in Miami. Fuck that. Yeah. Miami is interesting. There's a reason I left. I bet. Yeah. It was, it's not, you're not going to find a, you're not going to find a wife. You're not finding a wife either. Yeah.

It is unfortunate. It's a lot, it's a lot of fun. I see a lot of guys get attracted to that, that lifestyle. I'm very much over that. Like it's a phase Like I don't want to live in an apartment, bro. I want to, I want to touch graphs. You know, I want to see mountains. I don't want to see like, I don't know, whatever you see, like just, just I'm not even a big beach guy to be perfect. Honest. Which is ironic because I've lived in nothing but cities with beaches,

literally like my Bayer Miami, Los Angeles, Perth, all beach cities. Wow. And I don't, I'm not even that, I don't like the beach that much. You got to get on the countryside or something. Yeah. Give me trees, bro. Just give me, give me trees. Uh, give me a home among the gum trees, bro.

I actually asked the guests which country he thought had the best woman and he said Romania. Yeah. Romanian women are pretty good. I've dated a Romanian girl before. Um, very true. What I, what I find, I think a lot of American guys will fall into this trap of assuming the Eastern European girls are like this special snowflake. Um, they are gorgeous.

Don't get me wrong. They're very gorgeous. They're very, they know how to dress really well. They dress in a very feminine way. They, um, you know, they, they are a lot more traditionally feminine, but they do expect you to provide financially. That is a certainty. I think a lot of, if I, if an American dude who is a bit ignorant goes wife hunting in like, I mean not, you got, you do Ukraine now, but I know guys who were doing going to Ukraine before the war and stuff,

Romania, Poland, like Russians, these kinds of girls, you better be ready to like, how you financially, you ain't splitting bills. Their father's going to beat your ass if not. And the dad will kick your ass. Yeah. Yeah. There's that. That's cause that's the, that's the, the dads are super masculine. So you've got to compete with that. Like if you're not, if you, if you are just, you know, a bit pussy footed and you don't put your foot, if you literally, if you don't put your foot down, they will walk all over you and they'll leave you.

Like they, they want you and expect you to be a lot more like, you know, not heavy handed, but like straight down the line masculine in that sense and have, have boundaries and not compromise on them. You know, that's what the dad's like. Yeah. You said earlier, you want, you wanted kids. Has that changed recently? Cause I definitely want kids. Yeah. I think the first time you came on you didn't, right? Yeah, it definitely changed my opinion. So in the past few years.

I've seen, I've seen a couple of close friends have, have, uh, have a couple of kids over the last two, three years. Yeah, bro. It's the, just watching them with their kids. It's the most beautiful fucking thing. Wow. And especially like watching the way that their kids like look up to dad. Yeah. It's, Oh man. Like nothing will melt your heart like that. It's beautiful. That's cool. Like my friend, Justin Waller, no one is ever going to say like, like I'm not going to, you know,

I don't want to reveal too much about his private life, but he is an amazing father. I bet. And the way his daughters look up to him, man, that's what every guy wants. Every guy wants that level of love from his family. I don't care who you are, that's what you want. I'm glad you changed your stance, man, because you were firm before. I remember the first episode. Let's go, baby.

But you don't believe in marriage though, right? People can change. Yeah, I still think legal marriage is flawed. Yeah. I don't have a problem with getting like, like doing a religious ceremony. I think that's fine. But getting the government involved in it is, it's just, man, if, and I know we're, we're at like the lowest rates of,

of marriage in recorded history, I think. I think so. Yeah. Right now. And it's highest divorce rate too. And the highest divorce rates. Well, it's like, what are you incentivizing? Well, think about the way that, you know, divorce courts are structured. Think about the way child support court structure. It's literally a, it's all one financial incentive for the woman to leave the guy. So if you want to fix marriage, you're going to have to fix these laws first.

Cause the more, thanks to social media, thanks to big podcasts and stuff, a lot of more guys are waking up, right? More younger guys, especially awake up and the guys who will get the end, the dudes who are, who are older and who've been through that racket are coming out and be like, yo, like they're very, very, very anti marriage. Like you think I'm anti-marriage talk to a guy who's been divorced. Yeah. You know, and you aren't going to reverse that trend. You can, you can, you can spatter all you like and say, men need to step up.

That doesn't change the laws. Like your moral, like high ground doesn't change the fact that the guy is going to lose half his shit if she just has a bad day. You know? So you need to change, you need to fix that. Need to fix like the, like the child support, child custody laws that definitely needs to be fixed. A lot of good fathers are kept from their, from their kids from a vindictive like mother. Yeah. I think the mother went like over 80%. Yeah. So it's like, look, they can't, they can't all be deadbeat dads. They can't all be.

Should be closer. Logically, it just should be closer to 50-50, if it makes sense. Precisely. You know, we, do I know what the exact answer to this fix to this problem is? I don't. But having the conversation is at least a way to find it. Yeah. You know, if we just sit there and pretend like, oh, nothing's wrong. Nothing's ever going to change and no one's ever going to come up with a better solution. But the way we have it right now is definitely not the way to go. Absolutely. Sterling, what's next for you? Where can people find you?

I know you're debating Jake Shields later today. Can't wait to see that. Talking to Jake a bit. Yeah, yeah, we'll talk about some stats and stuff with the porn industry, which should be fun. Yeah. Yeah, I've got that today. And then I might go check out,

there's some amateur boxing going on tomorrow at Luxor. Okay. I might go check that out. Michael Sartain from Good Friend of Mine. Oh, he's boxing? He is, he's not boxing, he is hosting it. Okay. I might go check that out.

And then I'm off to Dubai and then I'm back to Australia. Good old Dubai. I gotta get out there. It's good fun. If you, when you go hit me up, I'll connect you with a bunch of people. Oh yeah. Thanks bro. Thanks for coming on again.

Thank you so much. Yeah. Check them out guys. See you next time. Peace.