Digital Social Hour - Mastermind Reveals How He Built a Criminal Fortune | Skinny Keem DSH #1370

Episode Date: May 12, 2025

Discover the jaw-dropping story of Skinny Keem, once America's most wanted car thief, as he reveals how he built a criminal empire and amassed a fortune! 💼 From masterminding a network of operatives to moving stolen luxury cars across borders, Skinny Keem shares insights into his high-stakes life in the fast lane. 🚗💨 Hear about near-death experiences, trust betrayals, and the turning point that made him walk away from it all. This episode of the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly is packed with valuable insights, wild stories, and lessons on street smarts and survival. 🎙️ Tune in now to uncover how Skinny ran his operation like a Fortune 500 company and the secrets to staying ahead of the game. From Bentleys to bulletproof vests, and even selling cars back to the cops, this story will keep you on the edge of your seat! Don't miss out—watch now and subscribe for more insider secrets. 📺 Hit that subscribe button and join the conversation as we explore the untold stories behind extraordinary lives. 🚀 Stay tuned for more eye-opening episodes of the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! 🔑✨ CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 00:33 - Always Wanted to Be a Criminal 01:37 - Close Calls 04:57 - TheraSage 07:06 - How You Got Caught 09:58 - Get Real Rest 10:59 - The Snitch 13:35 - Evolving from Cars 16:21 - When Did You Know You Were Hot 18:33 - Off the Rims 19:45 - Stealing Electric Cars 21:56 - Most Expensive Car You Stole 25:05 - Closest You Got to Getting Caught 26:55 - Negotiating 29:58 - Stealing Cars with Trackers 30:00 - Stealing an Excavator 33:20 - What's Next for You 33:44 - Selling Cars Back to the Cops 34:35 - Selling a Car Back to the Dealership APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: [e-mail] GUEST: Skinny Keem https://www.instagram.com/skinny.keem/ SPONSORS: THERASAGE: https://therasage.com/ SAMRBOSA: https://sambrosa.com/ NORTHWEST REGISTERED AGENT: https://www.northwestregisteredagent.com/socialhour LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ The views and opinions expressed by guests on Digital Social Hour are solely those of the individuals appearing on the podcast and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of the host, Sean Kelly, or the Digital Social Hour team. While we encourage open and honest conversations, Sean Kelly is not legally responsible for any statements, claims, or opinions made by guests during the show. Listeners are encouraged to form their own opinions and consult professionals for advice where appropriate. Content on this podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only and should not be considered legal, medical, financial, or professional advice. #truecrime #vinwiki #truecrimedocumentary #truecrimestories #crime

If you get a Porsche, don't go ride around in a Porsche to go show off. You get the money. By the time you sell four or five Porsches, you can go buy yourself a Porsche. Damn. So why would you ride around in a stolen car? Yeah. Yeah. Now me, when I first started, I had a stolen car.

That's how I got in. Because I had a stolen car and somebody wanted to buy it. And that's how I got into the game. All right, guys. got a fun one today. Most wanted car thief in America, Skinny Keem. Let's go, man. What's up, what's up? These days you're living a much quieter lifestyle though,

right? Yeah, I'm trying to. You always wanted to be a criminal though growing up. Yeah, I just didn't know what criminal I wanted to be, what type of criminal I wanted to be I grew up like following Joey Molino and and all the mobsters and stuff like that my movies and things like that Did you ever want to work like with the mob? It's like a What do they call them claims or?

No, not not really. I I was um cool with this guy that was like cool with Joey. You know, his name was Tommy Hill. He was a rapper in Philly. So I was young, but I used to be, and I used to rap. So I used to always be around them. Used to see him with his bulletproof vest on and all that. So that got me into wearing bulletproof vests and wanting to be in the streets.

But I was smart in the streets though. Yeah. I mean, you have to be to survive, right? Yeah. Not a lot of people make it out. No, not at all. And I'm sure you've had a few sketchy near death experiences. Yeah.

How many? Uh, a few. I can remember this one time I was in my X5 and my X5 was bulletproof and I was like gang-worn in the neighborhood and I Would troll the people that I was gang-worn with so I went I went by trolling this one dude And he was like a real black dude. He was like black and he was standing in the cut He was standing in the dark, but I could see him Every time I rolled by just rolled by with my music blasting music blasting and. Every time I rode by, I just rode by with my music blasting, music blasting.

And the last time I came by, he just walked out, he walked out the cut and put the gun in the car. And the gun didn't shoot though. And so I had my homie in the car and I pushed him down. And the whole time I'm thinking, I'm pushing the gas, I'm pushing the brake. So the car just sitting there and he got the gun in the car. Damn.

Yeah, but thank God. I don't know what happened. I don't know if the gun jammed or he just didn't shoot, but he had it right in there. Holy crap. Yeah. Then I got in a police chase after that. It just was crazy. Was that in Philly?

Yeah, that was in Philly. Did you get away? Yeah, I got away, but I lost somebody's pistol that I had. Shit. I feel like most police chases end up in them getting caught. Yeah, no, I was, I ain't never really get caught at nothing I did for real. Yeah, cause your plates, you wouldn't have,

I saw you on another podcast, you wouldn't have a plate on the back, right? Yeah, but this was before I started the stealing car thing. Yeah, this X5 was paid for. Yeah, this before I started the stealing car thing. So how old were you when you started? Doing the car stuff 25 the end of 25 by the be 26 years old you got good at that Yeah, I got good fast. Did you have a mentor or how did you figure out the game so quickly? I?

Can't even say the money The money I wanted a lot of money, so I came up with a way to get a lot. I was only getting like $700 for a car at the time when I first started. And then I got up to getting thousands to a hundred thousands, then I made it to a million. Damn.

Yeah. How much planning went into each time you stole a car? At first I used to be so precise, but then once I got the hang of it, it'd be easy. I'd get a phone call in the morning, they got a car, I'd go sell it. Damn. So people would tip you off if they saw a car

was parked for a few days or something? No, so I had like 26 people, I had like 26 acquaintance, 26 for the first round, and they would bring me cars like every day. So you figure 26 people bringing a car every day or throughout the week, that's a lot of money. So that's how I was doing it. Oh, so you were like at the top

and you just had people doing it for you. Yeah, sometimes I would go out, but I was mainly at the top. I was like the broker. I could find the money. I could find the buyers. So I would go out, but I was mainly at the top. I was like the broker. I could find the money. I could find the buyers. So I would go to different cities and different states and I would find buyers.

So I had buyers all over. Do you think people are still doing that right now? Yeah, but they getting caught so fast. They don't got the knowledge. I think they just want the fast cash. They don't even care if the people get their product. They just want to get the cash. And I cared about my clients.

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Within 12 hours. Yeah. See, mine was going way overseas, so it was taking three weeks to get there, so. Damn. Yeah, so it'd be parked or it'd be in a container for a little while until they ready to go. Yeah.

I feel like it's harder now with all the cameras and. No. You don't think so? No. Really? It's not. It's not about getting a car. It's about getting a car out of the country.

That's the hard part. Yeah. So if I take your car, you not getting it back if I get it. I don't care if it got a tracker, I don't care if it got GPS, I don't care if it got somebody sitting in that motha fuck. You ain't getting it back. If me and my team got that car, it was gone. The only reason why they found 56 cars

is because somebody gave me up. Yeah, that's the only reason why they found 56 cars. So if no one snitched on you, you think you could have kept doing it? I got caught and then while I got told on, they got me and then I did it for another seven years without getting caught. So I just gave up.

I just woke up one morning and was like, I don't want to do it no more. I'm gonna just go and try to sell my story now. You had a good system. What made you give up? Did you start feeling bad or? No, my friend passed away and yeah, I did. Like when he passed away, it was like a lot of emotional things happening,

like because people was getting their cars took and I never thought about nobody, you know, mental anguish on it. I just thought about the money at the time because I was young. And as I got older, I understand. I'm going to just take these from the car, like insurance thing. Yeah. So how many, when you got called, what happened? How many years did you get? I ain't getting no, I got two years probation,

but then they tagged on another two years because they wanted to watch me. They only got me for eight months. Damn. Yeah, out of the seven years, they only locked me up for eight months. Holy crap., out of the seven years, they only locked me up for eight months. Holy crap. And they never caught me doing anything.

I just gave myself up. I just was like, all right, fuck it. Yo, they put the charges on me and I just took the charges. I could have beat it in court. Wow. But I wanted to save all my friends. So you were just, you were moving super smart then.

Like they had no evidence on you, nothing? They ain't had nothing on me. Were you texting people, calling people? They ain't had nothing on me. Were you texting people, calling people? They ain't had nothing on me. They ain't had no phones, they ain't had nothing. All they had was word of mouth. Wow. They never seen a transaction of mine.

They didn't subpoena your phone records or anything? Nope. They couldn't find the phones. When they came in my house, I had my phones up on the, up on the cabinet. I don't know why they didn't look, but they just found money wraps and they found a gun in there.

That was it. They ain't get nothing from me. Damn bro. You were moving. It's hell as smart. I'm impressed. Like that's a skill. Yeah, nothing.

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Yeah, I was because I wanted everybody to eat. So if you came to me, I would think that you was a real, you know, a real friend and wouldn't hurt me. So the one guy that snitched was a friend of yours? Yeah. Damn, that one must've hurt. Yeah, but after that, I seen him out, I shook his hand and I just was like, it's the game.

I don't think snitches and all that you playing the game. If you're playing the game, you know what's going to happen. So everybody got consequences. It's inevitable right someone's in a out of 26. I'm surprised only one did. No, it was a couple but I'm actually on me because I didn't really do. I didn't deal with the people that he had with him. That was his people.

Like, so everybody would have a clique with him. So if I got 26 people, them 26 people got a whole crew behind them. So I had hundreds of people probably bringing stuff. God damn. Yeah, because it's, let's say like you was somebody that was bringing me one now You got a whole crew behind you. So you got a crew of five or six people

Yeah, that's bringing it to you and then you're bringing it to me and was this all throughout the country or certain cities? It was a cities cities cities. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense. Well, Miami Baltimore DC Ohio Delaware, it was just all over and they was all bringing them. Maryland. Damn. Cause you want to be close to a port though, right? So you could ship it.

No, we are driving. We drive them up to Canada. What? Yeah, we drive them up to Canada. You could cross the border even though you're- Once it's there, you know, you got people in that's getting money to do things. That's how they was getting out the country.

So if you're at the port, you got somebody that's taking that bribe at the port. So even if it's going through Canada, you got somebody to take a bribe anyway. It's just like you going to the club and you pay the balance of $20 to get you in. There's a bribe, it's I'ma get you in. Money talks.

Yeah, so if you're going to Canada, let's say you give somebody $5,000 to let you across, they're going to take that $5,000. They probably getting paid what, $20, $30 an hour? So somebody coming through with a car, just, yo, take that $5,000. You're going to let them go. Did you want to evolve from cars ever or did you, were you happy just doing cars? I was happy just doing cars, but when we had got took down,

well, I didn't get took down in the first, in the first container situation, but I wanted to hide my money into construction, but I lost all that money. Damn, in construction? Yeah, they kept it. So you would pay the developers? Yeah, developers overseas, I was doing it overseas.

And they just kept it? Yeah, because the cops ran down on everybody and they halted the operation for like, so they halted the operation for like nine months. So them nine months, in between them nine months, I thought I was hot. Well, I knew I was hot, but they still couldn't get me on nothing.

So what I did was I went to a college that my girl was, my ex-girlfriend was going to college. So I put on some scrubs and stuff, and I went to her school and I did a nursing class. For free. I used to just go in there and sit down, book, paper, book bag. That's crazy.

So you weren't even registered as a student? I wasn't registered, nothing. I just go in there and sit down, you know, hi, how you doing? These classes are so big, you could easily do that still. But it wasn't, the classes wasn't that big though, they were small. I used to be in the computer room and everything.

Like I just walk around. That's crazy. But that's how I was in the game. I would make myself noticeable so you would. Shout out to Northwest Registered Agent today's sponsor. Starting your own business should be exciting, not overwhelming I've been there and I know how fast things can get complicated

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I was in plain sight and I used to tell people like, yo, I'm the man and you know, don't nobody believe when you say that. So ain't nobody believe me. So I just continue to do what I was doing. Yeah. When did you know you were hot? After they, after they broke in my house and took a million dollars. Who did?

I don't know. It had to be a friend because the FBI, but the FBI brought me down like a year later to ask me about it. And they had all these people I knew, they had them spread across the table. Damn. Yep. Just like the movies.

Yep. They had them spread across the table. And they wanted me, the FBI wanted me to like work for them. But on drugs, I'm like, I don't sell no drugs. I don't do no drugs. And then they like, well, we know you be in the club. We know you be with this person. And they like, all right, well, we're going to give you a minute to think. And they walk out the room and they come back and they just let me go because they knew I wasn't going to do it. Damn. Yeah. I was dealing with cars.

I went. So you never found out who took that? That's crazy. No, it was, it was, it was one of them people in that picture though. They knew that's why they showed me the picture. They knew who it was. Shit. That's a lot of cash.

Yeah. God damn. But I ain't care though. I told them in the interview, when they was interviewing me I was like, I don't, I don't care. I'm gonna make it back. I don't care though. I told them in the interview when they was interviewing me, I was like, I don't care, I'm gonna make it back. I don't care about it. As long as I got away with my life. It had to be somebody I know

because they didn't do nothing to me. And I was sitting in my parking lot before I left. So I know they was watching me. That's true. Cause if they knew you, they're not gonna hurt you. They're close with you. And it had to be somebody that's like, I'm getting the money.

It was a backdoor thing because I'm still getting the money. And if I'm going, if I die or something, you ain't gonna be able to get no money no more because the plug is just gonna go. Did you have crazy trust issues after that happened to you? I always did. I used to have a bulletproof hat. I used to- Hot?

I didn't know they made hats. Yeah, I had a bulletproof hat. I had the vest. I had, my BMW was bulletproof hat. I used to. I didn't know they made hats. Yeah, I had a bulletproof hat. I had the vest. I had my BMW was bulletproof. I used to trust nobody for real, for real. But I kept people around me so they wouldn't do nothing. You know, when you feed the wolves, they loyal. Yeah.

Yeah, you need someone around you. You can't ride completely solo, right? Yeah. Damn, that's nuts. I got to see this in a documentary one day. Yeah, the story gets deeper. Yeah, I'm sure there's a lot you haven't even said on podcasts yet that you're just holding back for a film.

Yeah, yeah. You talking to any filmmakers, producers right now? Well, I was in an option for two years with ABC Signature Disney, and the writer's strike happened. So they put that on the back burner. Damn, bad timing. But it's called Off the Rims though.

You could Google it, it's on the internet. You got an itch to get back into that lifestyle of her? No, but if I did, if I got back into that lifestyle, I don't think it'd be crazy out here no more. I don't think that these people would be like running around crazy like they are, because they just half cocked out here. They just taking cars and don't even know what to do with it.

If you see my DMs, it's crazy, because they would do it and then hit me up. Like, I'm like, yo, I'm not in the game no more. Why would you take the car if you can't sell it? That's why I say it's easy to get the car, but it's hard to sell it Yeah, you already the hard part is finding the buyers, right? Yeah, that's the hard part because they got a trust you you can't you dealing with hundreds of thousands of dollars I used to make them come meet me and give me a hundred thousand dollars. Yeah. Yeah. So. Well cars are probably harder to steal now though right? No. They're not? No it's the same. It's the same. It ain't going to change. It's just that people out here have cock, like I

said, they just running around doing anything thinking that it's harder than what it is but it's really easy. Well you probably can't steal the electric ones. I want to say something, but I ain't trying to get myself into trouble. No, because I'm just saying. Anything could go, anything could go, but they don't want that electric over there. They don't want electric cars over there.

Shit, half of the towns don't even got electric. They don't want electric cars. Yeah, they don't have the chargers. Yeah, but if I was in it, I could get whatever. Electric, whatever. Damn. So hot wiring still works on those? No, they don't hot wire. All you need is a key. Yeah, I guess. No hot wiring. I never hot wired. I never sold a car that was hot wired. I never did that. I used to sell the car with the plastic on it Damn. Yeah, and I had like this little spot in Southwest so the back it was 61st Street. So in the back it was like nobody would really go back there

I used to have cars lined up back there with with the white plastic still on it brand new Just waiting to be sold. That's straight from the dealership That's crazy. Yeah, I tried, someone tried hotwiring my car. What, was it Honda? It was a Santa Fe, Hyundai. Oh yeah, see they just wanted to ride around. I wanted the money.

I would never drive them unless I was going to a drop. That's the only time I would drive them. And I would try to instill that in the young dudes that was, not even gonna say worker for me, but you know, that was in the organization. I used to try to instill that in their brain. If you get a Porsche, don't go ride around in a Porsche to go show off, you get the money.

You, by the time you sell four or five Porsches, you can go buy yourself a Porsche. So why would you ride around in a stolen car? Yeah. Yeah. Now me, when I first started, I had a stolen car. That's how I got in. Because I had a stolen car and somebody wanted to buy it. And that's how I got into the game. But after that, I didn't drive no stolen cars. What was the most expensive car you stole? you stole? A Bentley, the flyer spur part of the newer one. We had Lambos, we had Farris, Rolls Royces, everything. Anything you can name. A boat. If you wanted a boat, I could get you a boat. If you wanted a plane, I could get you a plane. Only thing a party didn't

even have a request for was a train, but if the tracks go there, I could get it. Anything, anything I can get because all I would have to do is call, make a call. I don't care if it was an insurance job. If you wanted it, I can get it. If you wanted a yacht right now, I could find somebody that wanted to do

an insurance job on a yacht. And we could put that motherfucker in a container and ship it out. So how does that work? You say it crashed and then you just steal it or? They say somebody stole it. Yeah, once it's stolen, I mean, they're going to do the investigation,

but the whole thing about it is, it's not in the country no more. So there's no face, no trace. Yeah. So that's how I operate it. My stuff had to get out the country. That's how I last so long. It was no evidence. Yeah. Cause if you sold the people in the country, it would tie back to you somehow. Yeah. So say like if the car lot saying that they missing 30 cars and they can't

and the cops can't find them, then that means I did a good job. But if you, if, if the cops can't find them, then that means I did a good job. But if the cops hit you with, let's say they hit you with a $10 million ring, that's $10 million that got found. I wanna be in the bracket where $100,000, where I get caught in a $100,000 ring, because that means everything made it over and we only lost a hundred thousand dollars.

So people think the higher the amount that they found is good, no, that's backwards. With mine, it was 2.3 million. That's how much they found. That's how many cars they found. But I wish it was lower. I wish it was 10,000. That means that all my people got their shipment.

But if it goes higher, that means my people lost their money. Because now the cops got 10.5 million dollars back. So I'll be happy if they get a hundred thousand. If they say, oh, we busted a hundred thousand out of car rank. That means all my stuff made it where it needed to go. Damn, so they found 2.3 million cars? Yeah. That is crazy.

So that means international got involved. Yeah. What was it? Homeland security. Yeah. Holy crap, that's a lot of cars. Yeah. And that was in eight months.

So imagine 14 years. I did it for 14 years. Wow. The first seven years, they was oblivious to anything. I mean, they probably knew my name, but I would never get out the car. I would always have to, and sometimes I would even get two cars.

I would go and get a car to match the one that I'm about to sell. That was in the beginning before I learned more and more and more. That's crazy. What was the closest call you had to get in court? To get in court? I got chased on 76. And the reason I got chased was because I panicked. I was in a Jag and I seen a state trooper and the car started beeping.

So I'm thinking that the car is beeping because the cops is there. It was the fucking seatbelt. This is when they... It was the seatbelt. I thought it was the radar thing on the cop. And so I started panicking, so they started chasing me. But I got away and I got the car down in the hotel parking lot and it still got shipped.

Damn. So that was a stolen car you were in? Yeah, that was a stolen one because I had to transport it. Ooh. Yeah, so sometimes I would just have to transport it. If I ain't trust the person, I would transport it. And I would get the money and then I would pay them.

And then I didn't want people to see the plug. And so I would have to do shit myself sometimes. Yeah, you kept that just to you, right? You didn't share that with anyone? Yeah. Yeah, that's smart though, because then people would have went around you. Yeah, but they wouldn't even you, right? You didn't share that with anyone? Yeah. Yeah, that's smart though, because then people would have went around you. Yeah, but they wouldn't even,

they wouldn't have last because somebody tried to do it before, but he didn't last, maybe last a month. That's it? Yeah. Damn, yeah, because he doesn't have the systems in place. Yeah, and they be greedy. It's not about greed, it's about stacking.

All you gotta do is stack your money. Even if you was getting paid $1,000 a car, and you bringing to do is stack your money even if you was getting paid a thousand dollars a car And you bring in cars just stack the money just stack the thousand dollars you bring in a car a day That's five thousand a week seven thousand if it's Saturday and Sunday Yeah, even though I'm making five or ten off off of everyone, but still everybody's still eating So if you tell me hey,, I want 2000 for this car, I'm gonna go get 10,000, but that's what you told me you wanted.

So I'm gonna give you your 2000, I'm gonna take you on 10, and that's how I operate too. So you were good at negotiating too. Yeah, we were good at negotiating. You're taking 80% and they're doing all the work. That's impressive. Yeah, your peak you were pulling in 50K a week, right?

Man, I was pulling in more than that. Because I would get them to come, I would get them to give me $1,000 when they land. So we were meeting a bar in Southwest called The Happy End. I would meet them there, they would give me $1,000, we'd get drunk, party, all that. And then the next day they would give me a list and give me $100,000.

Damn. So I got the $100,000. Damn. So I got the $100,000 and I got the list of cars. I call each person from a different part of the city and I tell them what I want. So whoever bring the car first, that's the car that I sell. Or sometimes I might just buy both of them. And then if it's a car that I don't want, I'm paying $1,000. I'm paying $1,000.

I'm paying $1,000 for it and I got $100,000. Geez. So you figured $10,000 out of $100,000 and I get to keep the rest or however much it was. That's crazy. So they were giving you a list of what they wanted. Yeah, I was getting the list some days or if somebody just had something random,

they would call me like, hey, yo Ace, they used to call me Ace that was my name. Ace I got a Audi Q7 and then they do it they bring it. I got I got set up in a blue Audi Q7 me and my homie the cops had a tracker on it. So when I went to sell it when I went to sell the Audi we couldn't start it. I when I went to sell it, when I went to sell the um the um Audi, we couldn't start it. I'm like why the fuck can't we start this John? Whole time we was being set up, we was being watched, filmed, taped. Damn that's when the snitch came in. Yeah that was two people I know set me up, I don't care. Damn so they just pulled up and arrested you on the spot? No no no this was in the eight months. Oh okay., this was in the eight months.

Oh, okay. Yeah, this was in the eight months, but the car didn't get sold. They just wanted to see what was going on. So you still can't get me for selling the car because I never sold it. You were just inside of it. Yeah, I was inside of it, trying to start it

and stuff like that. They just wanted to see who I was. Yeah, well back in those times, there weren't as many trackers, right? It wasn't like as common as now. No, so we didn't take Hummers and we didn't take Escalades because they had the Onestar. But what people don't know is, and I shouldn't be saying all of this, what people don't know is that the car lights don't program the cars They don't program the GPS in the cars

So hundreds of hundreds of cars was going missing damn So when the car come off the boat the car is just a is just a computer. It ain't I'm sorry programmed Yeah, it's not programmed so you could just drive or you know saying ain't nothing really programmed on it So that's the best time to go for them when they're coming off the boat. Yeah, when they're coming off the truck. The truck. And they being put, that's why I said it.

And then it goes back to what I said. I used to have the cars with the white stuff on it, with the paper on it. Yeah, stuff in the window. That's smart. I saw one clip, you stole an excavator? Yeah. That's insane.

Somebody wanted an excavator. Yeah, that's insane Somebody wanted to excavate it for diamonds because they was digging up diamonds in a jungle And I'm doing just to be on the side of the road. And like I said The object of the game is to get the motherfucker out of the country before anybody know. Mm-hmm. That's it So once is on that boat You're good. Yeah, once it's on that boat. You're good. Yeah, once it's on that boat. Sometimes once it's in the container is good because the container is so solid.

Yeah. So when I got arrested, it wasn't because they, when I got set up, they had the X5, they had it inside a container. So I thought that it was a tracker at first, but well, it was a tracker, but I thought it was a tracker at first, but well it was a tracker,

but I thought it was a tracker from like the car company, but it was a tracker from the cops. So the cops already knew where the car was going. It wasn't because it was in the container that they found it. They had a fucking tracker and they was watching where it went. So they were allowed to open the container? Yeah, the container was parked on the regular street.

Oh, damn. In the hood. Damn. Wow. It was parked open the container. Yeah, the container was parked on the regular street. Oh, damn. In the hood. Damn. Wow. It was parked on the street. They dried them up, I was right up in there. Right around the corner from the police station. You were that close to the police station? I used to, right-handed guy, I used to be in New York. I would come off of, it had to be George Washington.

I would come off George Washington. had to be George Washington. I would come off George Washington. I think it was Jerome Ave. I'm not sure if it was Jerome Ave. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, if y'all see this. But I used to make a right off of Jerome Ave. I mean, off the George Washington Bridge, make a right, then make a left. And I would sell my cars right there,

and I swear to Jesus, the police station was right here. You were just so confident. The police station right here, and I would be selling the car right here, stolen. Hid it in plain sight, like you said. We'd drive them from Philly to New York, and I did that plenty of times. Nothing ever happened. That's crazy. You ever get family involved, or you were just moving on your own?

No, ain't nobody know what I was doing. None of my family would know what I was doing. And the people that was working with me, they wouldn't tell nobody except for the ones that told the cops. But yeah, but nobody knew. Nobody knew. Everybody thought I was a drug dealer or they thought like a girl was taking care of me. One time they said I was making money in the basement, like counterfeit money.

That's how much money I had. That's crazy. That must have been hard to keep to yourself. No. Not tell any family? No, it wasn't. Really? No, I just didn't never tell nobody.

I just, until it came out on the news, that's when people knew. That's when they was like, oh, that's what he was doing. And then. Were you flashy with it? Yeah, I was flashy as hell. I always had like cars and- Designer?

Yeah, no, no, no, no designer. I wasn't wearing designer. I mean, I wore Gucci every now and then to go to a party, but I used to be in the hood. I used to be like Rick Ross, and I never even seen Rick Ross' story until recently, but I used to be like him. I used to have flip-flops on.

Everywhere I went, I had flip-flops, and I would wear like tan khakis and a regular shirt unless I was going out of town or something. But I had like jewelry and stuff, but I wouldn't wear it unless I was going out. I had a nice watch and stuff like that. So you just spent most money on cars? Yeah, or I just hit it.

I love it, man. Well, dude, this has been cool. Anything else you want to close off with here? Anything you're working on right now? The documentary, I'm working on my book. My book should be coming soon. I don't want to release the name of it yet, but, and I'm working on the documentary

and I got a few people that I'm trying to, you know, score a deal with to get this series actually done. 50 Cent, if you're listening to this, I try to reach out to you. Please reach back out to me. Hit him up. He's killing it right now too with the television. Yeah, and I think that my show would be like a hit

because it's nothing like, I mean, it's stuff like it, but people ain't really telling their stories. Not to your level. You were the number one guy doing this stuff. And is so much more. I used to, I'ma end it with this. I'ma close it off with this. I used to sell the cars back to the cops.

What? I used to sell the cars back to the cops. People just gotta interpret that, Halle. They gotta interpret it the way they interpret it. I used to, and I be getting so mad. One of them pissed me off one time. I'm telling you, the story gets way crazier and people be thinking it's a lie, but it's the truth.

I used to sell the cars back to the cops. That's nuts. Well, we'll end it there. You'll have to watch the documentary to see that. Thanks for coming on, man. All right, man. Alright, man. Check them out, guys. Peace.