Digital Social Hour - Matias De Stefano on Increasing Lifespan, Remembering Past Lives and Summoning Rain | DSH #190|

Episode Date: December 18, 2023

On today's episode of the Digital Social Hour, Matias De Stefano talks about what it was like being a rock, summoning rain in the deserts of Las Vegas & his recent trips around the world from following the clues that the universe is showing to him. BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: [e-mail] APPLY TO BE ON THE POD: https://forms.gle/qXvENTeurx7Xn8Ci9 SPONSORS: Articulate: Visit articulate.com/360 to start a free 30-day trial of Articulate 360. Deposyt Payment Processing: https://www.deposyt.com/seankelly LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

You went out in the desert and you were able to summon rain. Yes. How are you able to do that? We all are able to do that when you are open to many things. When you summon something, it's not because you think that that something is outside of you. It's because you become it. You become the rain. Ladies and gentlemen, he is back for part two.

I don't have many guests on the second time, so I'm honored to be here with you, man. Oh, really? Yeah, it is. Thank you. What've been up to since we last spoke six months ago anything interesting where to begin i've been everywhere yeah you love travel you went to egypt yeah i went to egypt to uh to switzerland eisenstein and greece canary islands. Wow. Are these all spiritual journeys or just for fun? I'm like in a kind of sometimes it's because I organize some trips there but sometimes

because of a conference but mainly because I'm following clues. Trying to make a map of something of project that I'm trying to build up. Wow. Every country and every part of the planet has a clue for me to put together when you say clue is that sort of a message from the universe you're seeing that inclines you to go there yeah you know when when

you say when sometimes people say oh this is like a deja vu or um i just i just realized about something or this must be a sign vu or I just realized about something or this must be a sign, you know, these kind of things. We are not used to pay attention to that. Some people get very crazy by following them. Some others don't pay attention. So I'm using that as a work. Like the patterns that are in the world,

they're always there for people to pay attention to them. So what's your interpretation on deja vu is that a past life memory sort of resurfacing subconscious is picking up on it what exactly is deja vu like it could be many times the word deja vu uh in french is i i already seen it that's what it means yeah um and it's mainly it's basically your brain uh interpreting codes of things that you have already seen many times and uh it put them all in the same package like saying this kind of is the same so it's a good way to to understand understand how many times have you lived something or how many times have you been in the same circle.

So when you say it's a déjà vu, it's not maybe a spiritual being telling you this is a sign, but it's your own brain telling you this is something that has happened many times to you and you're not paying attention. So we put it in a in a library or in a folder in your brain that says whenever it happens again pay attention yeah yeah so is that library is that the akashic records is the akashic records of course uh because it's everywhere but uh we can also relate it to our nervous system yeah our nervous system works like the Akashic. And the Akashic records, does everyone have access to that?

Everyone. And that's just a collection of all the memories, right? Yes, yes, it's in a quantum level. So it's everywhere all the time. And we mostly access that when we dream, but when we interpret the dreams, it's very complicated to understand it but actually it's everywhere that information i usually call it like a public library yeah and

people don't even realize but you can learn a lot in your dreams there's a lot of you can learn a lot yeah yeah exactly i actually keep a dream journal every night because there's so many lessons hidden meanings um stuff that you wouldn't pick up while you're not dreaming yeah and that's that's the level of the subconscious and the subconscious is basically building everything that we know like we don't pay attention to that because we got used to it but um every color that i see around um the texture of the air, temperature, the sight of a person. So anything that is around is controlled by the subconscious. Like the first time that we saw the color black in our existence, what registry as a memory related to what was happening

when we saw that color black, for example. So every time that we see that color tells us something. Yeah. But we stop paying attention to it because it's so much data that you cannot pay attention to it. Like your brain says, okay, I will focus just on this because I cannot pay attention to everything. Shout out to today's sponsor, Articulate.

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back in on the training anytime they want in a super simple portal literally everyone i know uses articulate over 120 000 companies in all 100 of the fortune 500 check it out today at articulate.com slash 360 to start a free trial everything so all the other senses take care of that information so when you dream when you go to sleep your brain starts to organize all that information that you received and you didn't pay attention to so it all comes back in a package of data that is in the subconscious right which is where most of the information of the Kashuk is all the time interesting so that's why we don't usually pay attention and the way you can access that is when you dream or allow yourself to dream awaken yeah when you imagine when you think like a child

you start to see the patterns yeah daydreaming I've been studying dreaming there's some people with the abilities to enter other people's dreams have you seen that before yeah yeah so what does that why do some people have that ability you think why do they have it maybe they have a very open subconscious because because in the subconscious there is no division there's no other people it's all the same network of information it's all the same code so if you say a person you enter the package of humanity so humanity is like uh i don't know it's like saying um like saying we all have an app like instagram in our phone our devices are different but the app has

the same code yeah even if we charge different information in different pictures or whatever the code on the back is the same so when you go to the subconscious it's like that it's like you enter the code of that so if you know how to handle the code you become a hacker interesting so it's like a universal code that if you understand it you can do certain things and i will say i heard a crazy story about you i won't name drop the person okay but he told me you were in las vegas once you went out in the desert and you were able to summon rain yes how are you able to do that we all are able to do that when you are open to many things it's just that our culture closes so much that we barely understand the power that we have

and when you summon something it's not because you think that that something is outside of you is because you become it you become the rain you become the storm and uh for the last gathering that we did um i was invited here in las vegas um i don't i don't i cannot stand much the city here so i run to the nature yeah and i don't blame you so uh the first thing i did was to go to uh to the gay canyon yeah and i was asking there why am i here so i allow myself to became to become nature to become everything and as i was activating that with my own self, not being me, but in another, like in a dream realm, but being awakened. Suddenly the storm started to appear and the static started to be very high. So basically I grabbed that thing and pulled it to las vegas wow uh when i came here in order to to wash it for the cleansing of the energy for the gathering because they told me yeah and um

it rained a lot it doesn't rain that much here so the fact that you were able to summon it and become it it's pretty crazy. Yeah, it was crazy. And I also saw you just went to Arizona with a group of people during the eclipse, right? Yes. So what was the mission behind gathering in a circle formation like that during the eclipse? Eclipses are very tricky energy moments. Some people from old traditions, they say, are a dark portal, portal for darkness. So they say you shouldn't do anything.

For example, here the native people, they locked themselves so they don't see when that happens. There are many traditions that say that this is a dark moment,'t we shouldn't do any energetical thing and of course there's other people like me that say no this is the only moment when we could actually see the shadow and the things that we are not facing right so it's like doing therapy but in a big scale so so um so when you see the shadow projected of the of of the moon or the earth on the moon um when you see that you can actually perceive the subconscious of a lot of information that are around the planet and the people the animal kingdom the vegetable vegetable kingdom they all start to act weird like because everything gets weird so all the fears and stuff start to go out so basically it's like doing a huge therapy trying to understand what is in the shade of all this region wow and uh what should

we pay attention to yeah in order to bring light to it because it's easy to be you know like a light worker and always be in the in the in the light like that's not work that's holidays all the time yeah yeah so um so when you actually go to the shadows to the shade to the dark side of our reality you can actually see where are the codes that keeps us locked in a trap right all the time um it's like like i said like going to therapy and trying to see the eclipse, to be connected to the eclipse, and to open ourselves to see why everything is happening right now in the world and so on. What did you learn from that? Well, I learned about the trap of eclipses.

We have solstice and equinoxes every year, which is the holy cross. The actual holy cross is the medicine wheel for the native people, where you actually combine and cross all the data and information of the light in the planet for the process of life. And then we have another cross every year, which is two solar eclipse and two moon eclipse. And that means that that's the darkness cross. So what I learned from that is that we are subconsciously controlled by the cross of time during the eclipses. And we repeat that system once and again.

And there are ways in which we can use that cross to get out of the system instead of being trapped in the system uh that's crazy but that's part of the pursuit like okay what should we do what can we do yeah so when you say system does that mean most people are just following a script like we're in the matrix what kind of system do you mean systems means that we that everything is pattern like everything that exists is a pattern. I'm not talking about humanity. I'm talking about atoms. We are basically

atomic realm organized in a different way. So we are basically the mind of the atoms being expressed. The atoms organize themselves in patterns. Patterns of frequency frequency of magnetism so protons neutrons electrons they they connect with others creating molecules and so on

in a pattern so trinity four or six so they follow that pattern and they create the reality through that established pattern that was created before. So a system basically means the code of patterns that creates everything from the very first atom. So when you, it's basically like the reading of 1, 0 one one one zero like algebra yeah that creates the this for example yeah um so this table is also created by a kind of algebra that is not an image but is a it's an idea um of atoms so um so basically it says all the tables are based in the same concept or the same pattern. So all the people that are living in one culture has the same pattern and so on. So when you read the patterns, you understand the system. That's basically what it means.

Yeah, that makes sense. And there's people that can exploit the system like you said earlier and those people can levitate they could do crazy things exactly yeah yeah wow that's interesting but very few people get to that stage yeah and mainly because we have been culturally controlled uh sometimes on purpose sometimes by mistake, just it happened. Yeah. But we have been disconnected from our reality, which is atomic reality, quantum reality. That is the only reality that actually exists. All the rest is just a perception.

So all the perceptions, ideas, projections that we have are conditioning our way of relating with the whole, with the everything. And that's what makes us be so limited. That's what makes us believe, maybe this is not true, or I had this moment of clarity clarity but maybe i'm imagining that you know this this moments of doubting yourself or doubting uh reality and uh and culture saying you're crazy or judging the others because they are doing something different uh or because there's they're

not doing something established by the common you know um and today with the social media is like more yeah it's amplified it's like more people are doing whatever they want but more people are being judged yeah so at the same time so more freedom but also more conditionings more scrutiny yeah absolutely it's a double-edged sword right yeah so so uh those things makes us become trapped in our own system so that's why i say i say that uh it's not always i don't know a social like a secret society that is trying to control us right actually those society those secret societies are born because they saw how we create those systems like oh look how these people is creating a repeated system maybe we can use it yeah so it's not the other way around it's not

that there are societies secret societies that wants to control humanity basically exist because we make it very easy yeah i've never thought of it that way but that makes sense yeah so they're speaking of social media there's a viral movement going on right now that people believe the earth is flat oh yeah now as someone who remembers being an alien in a past life and has experience what's what's been your experience with the space solar system all that that in the universe nothing is flat right that nothing is actually flat uh in the universe everything tends to create a point of gravity or the forces to hold everything together into a core everything finds the core and you can actually see it everywhere in nature you can see it

everywhere in the universe in the cosmos the organization it doesn't matter the shape it will always turn back to become a toroid because the basic structure of everything like in subatomical particles is positive and negative. So every reality is created by a positive and negative and when you try to see the invisible aspect of the positive and negative it creates the shape of an apple which is a magnetical field so it means that everything is brought towards the positive or the negative to a center it doesn't matter where it is so it all creates the shape of a sphere right planets uh like planets

like galaxies the galaxies even if they are flat yeah uh they are holded in hold in this shape of magnetical field okay um so there is an ending point then it's not it's like this all the time it's like this yeah even if it's invisible it creates always this shape right so the idea of flat it doesn't even exist in the mineral realm like when we see uh i don't know a flat surface actually it's not flat actually is it's um it has imperfections that tend to go to the rounded shape um wow yeah it's it's it's everywhere like that yeah and i've also seen you speak about the galactic confederation uh yeah and uh in my memories of that, every planet was rounded. Yeah. Yeah. So it was controlled by a space organization? I would describe it like the Galactic Confederation is a conjunction of planets or civilizations that evolved to understand the consciousness of their planets.

So it's not an organization controlling the galaxy for example or because we tend to relate it with the un maybe or a parliament or something like that but actually for this kind of civilizations it's more about being in the right tune so when you when you go into the right um level of consciousness you start to understand that every reality everything that exists is related to vibration is one of the main laws of everything so if you want to to connect or communicate with another part of the galaxy you have to find the right tune to do it so they are not political uh civilizations that control other worlds they are just communicating by resonance or frequency yeah so that's why they don't actually travel in spaceships to one planet to another but they actually download themselves by frequency to people

living wow that are in their own resonance so is that teleportation kind of yeah in a quantum level yeah because people assume spaceships but it wouldn't make sense because it's so far away to be yeah it's too far away to travel yeah yeah so where did that get lost because now we've been trying to communicate with other planets and haven't had any luck for the past 100 years or so. So was it in ancient times where we had that communication? Yes. But the moment when we had that communication was when we understood that the universe was not outside, it was within. So if you see all the civilizations in the past that talked about aliens or that communicated with them there were civilizations that kind of discover the technology of the body

the technology of the technology of the stones uh and they didn't have like spaceships or or phones or you know they they basically use their own body as as as tuning forks they use their own bodies as as the way to communicate to um with other realms and so that's why we we lost the communication with other beings from other worlds when we stopped believing in the cosmos within and we started to create god outside wow and what years approximately was that that change that was after the um the end of the last glaciation around 11 000 years ago 11 000 wow that's a long time yeah a long time humans have been around for for longer than taught in school then humans have

been here for at least three million years though wow three million years as humans right as we know them today um like walking nandotals and so on yeah uh so since of course the first two million years we were just another species uh becoming clever the last million years we started to connect with other realities and other realms right um but without civilization um the past 30 000 years we started to create civilizations but not specifically related to agriculture um the past 12 000 years 15 000 years maybe we started to create the first civilizations but not based specifically in agriculture like we have today yeah it was after the glaciation that we started to um create settlements like we know today because uh because of the cold um we we were able to the cold going away we were able to uh finally um settle right in other places that before it was impossible yeah so before we were on a loving

level playing field with other animals but it seems like humans were able to surpass all other animals become the apex predator right and that was through community and our brains just evolved faster than other animals yeah and that idea of evolution that we come from fish in the water yeah is that true yeah of course of course it's true evolution of course as i remember evolution is is the clue of everything uh the thing is that of course there were many moments of inter intervening of other beings in the middle like uh from other worlds bringing some dna some data downloading something so it was not like um only aliens or only fish got it so it was a it was a whole process wow so do you have any past lives you remember as other animals or other beings yeah yeah totally wow i i since i was a child i i wrote some

stories about remembering how to be a plant a rock um wow and a bird yeah not much interesting yeah i was gonna say what was it like being a rock compared to humans it's like okay yeah well you cannot think so so it's it's very different to explain it's not like yeah i was in the desert no as uh the feeling of of it is not emotional it's it's like everything that's like right that that's that's the feeling like uh heat cold heat cold and it's the breathing of the stone and um yeah i felt i i remember feeling all that and being the stone but not seeing the stone like i couldn't interesting so you don't have any vision and you don't have a brain to think so you're just feeling yeah feeling a pulse yeah it was feeling a pose of like magnetism like or statics like right going

through me and uh and the pulse of heat and cold it was like a breathing interesting it was interesting how to feel it yeah but now as a human i can understand that it was day and night day and night and and the cold and heat so yeah and how does your soul transfer from that life because rocks are i guess living for many years right yes minerals um when the water or the wind hits the stones the little grains of salt the little grains of silica they fly all over and for example from i was i think if i locate myself i was i was as a rock in a place called ahgar today it's in argilia in the middle of the desert and now if you can see the dust of the sahara desert for thousands millions of years have been uh have been blown away uh to the atlantic ocean and they all fall into the rainforest in the amazon so all the dust and the rocks that are eroded,

they fly to the plants in the Amazon. So eventually they become minerals for the trees. So you become vegetal. So you suddenly become a tree. And maybe that tree is eaten by an animal. And that animal, it's eaten by a person. And you suddenly become a tree and maybe that tree is eaten by an animal. And that animal it's eaten by a person and you suddenly become a human. So that's how it works. So at one point we were all rocks then.

Yeah. Wow. We all were mineral at the beginning because we are actually mineral. Like you, you need minerals to survive. Yeah. There's a reason why because we we are created by minerals with our our structure animal vegetal fungi uh we are basically um from the mineral realm because we need calcium we need silica we need phosphorus yeah so if you take a look inside

of you you are all minerals you're a mountain fascinating so it's human the final form then or is there more levels i know there are more yeah there are more we're just starting oh so there's a lot more oh yeah okay of course i thought so i found out i've lived 500 lives past lives so now i'm wondering what's next and is it alien and then there's more after that well for sure there's going to be much more and uh this planet this planet just has discovered what humans is what humanity are um i mean it's just three million years we have been here right and if you think about the history of the planet it's not that's nothing right that's nothing we are just uh we're just a new species

trying to discover what can we become wow yeah i guess when you zoom out we're just a speck of dust yeah we're nothing yeah we're we are nothing wow yeah we are just discovering it that's crazy to think about so how long has the universe been around then? Well, according to science, I don't know the number, but when we talk about universe, we have to think about the visible one or the invisible one because there is a mark of the universe being billions of years because you can see the light from the very beginning.

You can analyze how long has this light been traveling since the very moment, the first moment. But actually the universe is not just visible. So science says the universe was uh in a specific moment but they are they relate that to the infrared waves that we can perceive from the explosion but what was before there was no time because time is only related to the speed of light and the gravity so you can actually know when right did actually happen yeah time is just made up, right? It's relative. It's very relative. Yeah. So you've explored a lot of the past, your past, the universe's past.

Have you done anything in the future? Have you explored anything in the future? The future? The close future? I guess, yeah. Have you come across any people that have powers that can kind of predict your future? Do you believe in that stuff? Oh, yeah, yeah, of course, of course.

Because future is just high vibration. So whoever finds the way to pitch themselves into that high speed of the electrons or particles, so you can see the future but the future uh because it moves it moves so fast um the future can be perceived can be uh interpreted like you can see but you will only see the future that is according to the vibration that you have today so means that there are many possibilities right and we can change those possibilities all the time because the particle starts to divide once and again according to the observer yeah so you could change your future all the time that's good to know because i've been scared to talk to certain psychics and stuff because i i don't want to know my future yeah because then you're living with that in the back of your mind you

know what i mean and you create it yeah and you're going to manifest it exactly so i'd rather just live in the present as much as i can yeah yeah you can you can actually change the future um of course from the point of view for the from the point of view of someone that doesn't believe in this is like yeah of course you can change the future because it doesn't exist so but according to the quantum reality is you can you can it's not that you can uh that it doesn't exist is that you will change the course of the future according to how you vibrate yeah it's like um it's like you have a river and there's a river going to the sea the outcome will be you will end up in the sea

there's no other way you will end up in the sea but maybe then there's a delta and you have many other streams of the river okay so imagine the future yeah being all these different streams and as you go in the main river you will have different options to get that interesting so the final outcome is determined so you believe we all have a date that we die and that can't be changed no it can't be changed according because the river can be shorter or longer got it so you but the thing is that the outcome is part of the system so the final thing the final product not your death the death is just another option but um the final product of why you exist is encoded in your system. So that's why people can read their future,

because if they can read your system, if they can understand if you are a triangle or you're a square, you will know what is going to happen next. If you're a triangle, you will have only three angles. If you are a pentagramagram you will have five angles so um so that's that's what it means someone can read your future because they can read your structure right have you heard of any super spiritual people being able to extend their lifetime because i had a talus master on here he said he's met some people that have lived to 150 years old. Yeah. So have you witnessed any of that? I haven't witnessed, but I know it's possible.

And I know for certain that it's totally possible. But it's all related on how you eat, how you breathe, and how you proceed in life. Right. Because basically what makes you die faster is if you breathe faster because it is actually the cells start to die because of oxygen wow so you're saying not to do cardio i'm trying not to because maybe because i'm lazy that's what they teach you to be healthier yeah you to be healthier yeah of course not to be longer not to live longer to live health so that's the trap of the system like like okay you want to be healthier you have to but also you have

to practice the correct the right breathing yeah because if you if you usually we breathe like if we try to survive like this we all do that yeah um but people that live longer usually is because they acquire this ability of breathe very slow and breathe out very slow right and sometimes they don't even feel that they are breathing because they're holding the air for so long they come back so um so that helps the body to not to waste energy every time that the the cells absorb energy wow because the the energy is absorbed by oxygen yeah um in the cells so it creates that reaction of strength and forces so as faster you you breathe um the fastest you burn your cells wow so i gotta keep an eye on that because i breathe pretty fast man so so that's why meditation uh or living in in the high mountains where you have to walk slowly

and everything you know like in tibet or in peru bolivia these people tend to kind of live longer maybe yep because they they live like a like a turtle yeah they call it blue zones there's five of them and i think all of them are in mountainous regions actually so that makes a lot of sense i actually just went to bolivia have you been there yes yeah i liked it there a lot yeah felt very good there there's certain places you travel to and you just something about it you feel really good yeah yeah i don't know how to explain it yeah um have you done ayahuasca recently uh not recently okay no you're taking a break from psychedelics for now no no no no uh actually i'm uh this year for me has been a try um it was the first time that i tried um mushrooms okay also how was that um great yes yes it feels well for me it feels like home yeah it's like yes and i and it's it's amazing because i uh it enables me to to connect and go deeper into the

system and uh many many crazy things happen i love mushrooms i i microdose them yeah but you did a full trip like yes yes of course yeah were you alone or with people? I was with a friend. Okay. Yeah. And I wanted to access the information of something that I needed to understand. So I created a portal at home with 32 books. Wow. Like Tao, Quran, Torah, the Bible, the food of gods the the the kivalion so many different books um the book of dead uh the egyptian book of that the the tibetan book of that so i put like 32 of those books uh and i don't like to read so I accessed the information through the mushrooms. Wow.

So I opened the portal and I was reading them like that. So you didn't even have to open the book. You were just reading. No, I haven't. And I was explaining to my friend in front everything that how they all connected and they shaped the idea of something that we all have to do eventually in a project. But I understood that from entering the magnetical field of the books. Wow, so there's a connection between every religion you're saying?

Everything is exactly related. They all have the same pattern. What's the pattern uh the the patterns are codes that are um hidden through time and space through all the different messengers that came in different times different timelines yeah that connected with that specific uh realm in the fifth dimension to download the information so there are many stories that makes no sense but in the middle of of that there is there are many codes to to understand the way where we should move and it's and it goes beyond god beyond yeah it's um fascinating yeah there

are many things then yeah so you don't tie yourself to one religion you're very open to different perspectives yeah they are all perspectives of the universe so right it's like i don't know it's it's like saying um like choosing between one star or the other i don't know it's like they all have different shine shining. They all have different information. Yeah. And you cannot see the universe without all of them. And it seems like these days religion is very divisive. Like they kind of put each other against each other, you know?

Oh, yeah. It's been always like that since religion was not related to faith, but politics. Right. Yeah. When did that start happening? it's been always like that since religion was not related to faith but politics right yeah when did that start happening uh i i think 500 000 years ago oh so a lot okay i thought it was recent oh no no no this this this has been always related to the alpha male um humans we are mammals so we move in herds and uh because we move in herds we always need the wise one that is uh in the herd and also we need the leader to tell us where to go how to hunt how to survive so we rely the survival of the herd to someone that knows where he's going. And usually in, uh, in our biological history, usually a male took care of that

when we were traveling and, um, uh, a woman took care of that when we were settling. So, um, so in that system that we created we always created a pyramidal society in which we rely the power on someone so when that someone was the one connecting to the truth uh we kind of trust completely right what that person was saying yeah and eventually some of those leaders created a system for all of the people to connect with the same information and some other leaders creating a system of all the others working for him because he knew the system wow so in these two ways uh one uh what happened when the whole society and population knows the truth they cannot form a civilization because in order to have a civilization that thrives, you need people that follow people.

Right. Because you need structures. You need people that will play an order. Like, okay, if you tell me, do this, I will do it. So in a structured society, you need defense, for example. In the past, I'm talking about the first beginning of humanity. So if someone comes to attack, you must attack to defend yourself, for example. So if everyone attacks in a different way, you maybe lose the war.

So you need someone to tell you how to do it when to do it how to follow orders so because of that the people that follow orders should not be connected to themselves because otherwise they don't follow orders they're just awakened beings that go to the tree right and talk to god so that's why in order to create an empire or a kingdom they needed to control the ability of people to connect themselves with god wow so yeah back then there was a lot of wars too right oh yeah it was it was terrible because it was about survival yeah everything could everyone could so it was all about survival and um so because of that we created the idea of religion and cultures as a way to make us survive not as a way to connect us as a way to say okay

if we are christian and i am christian we can get together and we understand each other right so we can make a force against the other one that is in front of us that we don't know so so religion stopped being a way to connect it became a way of defense to survive to survive wow and that's why that's why people fight for religion because they want to survive even still to this day defend the territory defend an idea yeah uh position politically but if they look deeper into it like you said they're all connected with the same goal they are the same yeah yes um is it true telling the truth is high vibration that releases some

high vibration energy truth um yeah it's a high vibration that's why it's impossible to know it because it's like the future truth is always changing it's not real really yeah you can't tell the truth no wait why is it always changing uh it's always changing because uh truth is a perception like for like there is always something new to discover. Like, for example, science would say, no, there is a truth. You can prove this and prove that and so on, until they

discover quantum physics. When they discover quantum physics, it's like, I kind of get it. And I was like, what does it mean? So there is a moment in the inner core of reality that nothing that you even thought it was true is actually true like not even physics

is true you know so what is the truth yeah well truth is a perception that always change according to the consciousness so it's the same thing with lying then too yeah there's no lies so there's no lies there's only different perceptions of the truth there is no truth there is always different perceptions of something yeah so that's why i usually say what i'm saying right now is not true it's just a slice of the truth that i experience and that it becomes true as a lot of people share the same truth so uh for example in this in this sense we can say okay so if a lot of people say that there is a god is there a god yes in the fifth dimension there is because you created it um if the flat if the earth is flat if the earth is not flat but a lot of people believe that it's flat is the earth flat well in a slice portion of

truth which is three kilometers yes it's flat so so wow everything has a slice of truth so you're saying if there's enough people that believe in it, they can make it true? They can make it true, but also it means that there is a part of it that is true. Wow. But because we are so... We want for our truth to become the whole truth. We tend to say, I saw that this this is true so this must be the truth for everybody and that's the conflict that we have yeah because we collide with each other truth

when actually each other truth complements the other truth it completes the other truth yeah each person has a different truth right exactly so if we if we are compassion to the truth of others what we can start doing is to shape the idea of everything yeah but if we lose more time trying to arg with the other one is lying and i'm saying the truth so we are losing energy into discovering the actual truth yeah yeah mind blowing yeah it's very complex so i know humans yeah so i know humans are made up of energy right is everyone born with positive energy at first positive yeah like meaning good good yeah um no i don't think so okay like i think uh because actually when in terms of energy when you talk about positive if something is completely positive it becomes toxic this is a

natural law really like um it becomes toxic and and can become a disease wow if you are completely negative it also can happen that yeah so the extremes are not good so you need both you're saying you need both otherwise you're not created you cannot create anything if you have if you don't have both things and because we are not being born at at first we are just energy so we are consequence uh someone that is born is not a new person someone that is born is the consequence of many people so you are entangled constantly into positive and negative and you have the information of all the positive and negative things that happen before you in your dna in your energy in your culture everything so you are the result of that wow but being born completely pure is very complicated

it's actually something interesting so there's no one that has just pure energy there's always a balance yes wow because you look at guys like mr beast that are so giving to charities and you just assume it's all positive but i guess they have a negative side too they need to but the negative is not bad sometimes the negative for example um i don't know like uh let's say a person that is that was very positive and made everyone happy and um um robin williams yeah he's right why because he was giving so much happiness to everybody and he was such a good person that suddenly he compensated with depression. And that one was crazy. So that's why we need a balance. Because it's not that you have to be a bad person or a good person.

It's that a lot of positivity can be also toxic because it creates the same amount of energy in the opposite side. Toxic positivity. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, i've heard that before yeah man yes you really need that balance because i grew up in a pretty negative environment so now i'm trying to offset it but it's an interesting battle i've had sometimes the negative uh the negative and the positive are tools yeah not a way of living that I would say that like like in order for your body to

move forward you need positive and negative all the time so if you don't have positive and negative discharges your muscles cannot move for example so so think about that in your life like if you don't have a negative thing happening to you you don't move forward that's true because in business especially you need to you need to fail to move forward yeah so in in everything you need a crisis to know how to move forward right uh and and that's that's a law of the universe polarity yeah so you cannot create something new unless you have both polarities so but they need to be in balance we culturally we tend to say i am very

negative or very positive yeah and that creates chaos in our life because we are given more power to one side but actually when we when you find the harmony into both of them everything bad or negative that happened in your life it becomes a tool for your positive in your life and we are usually tend to say i want to forget this has happened or i want to throw this away or i don't want to remind this or i just i'm trying to transcend this reality and i don't want for that happened anymore but it's always about escaping the negative and not taking the tools from it yeah people always try to run away from their traumas or their bad moments memories but you're saying to embrace it face it head on yeah because they are the tools it's like if you if you have a hammer and you want to put a nail in the wall

and you you crush your finger with a with a hammer would you throw the hammer away and never watch it again no no you just need to know how to use it yeah so that's the thing yeah i've done that before actually i got so mad at that hammer yeah but if you throw it away then you cannot put navel yeah so i've actually never seen you talk about money money yeah so what's your relationship with money do you even care about it at all i care about it because otherwise i wouldn't be here i i wouldn't be able to travel yeah um i of course, money is another way of energy, of exchange of energy. We are talking, that's an exchange of energy.

We are paying something, it's an exchange of energy. And the exchange of energy is how much energy it takes for you to go somewhere, do something, change something, build something. So it's about the energy that you need in order to carry that. We demonize the money because money in our last part of the civilization for the last 2,000 years, 3,000 years, has been a way to control others, to control the ability of others to be free.

So we created all this idea that money is evil, that money is a problem, but make this exercise. Take away all the money in the world, and what would happen? so we will start to fight it'd be chaos right by stones yeah we will start to fight because of snails we will we will start to fight because we want corn so change it by corn you will fight for corn you will be sad if you don't have the corn so it's not about money.

It's about how we establish our relationship with giving and receiving in our lives. So today is money and tomorrow could be shells. I don't know. It used to be shells in the past. Right. Gold. Gold. But for other cultures, for example, for america gold was nothing gold was like paper

for us today yeah everyone used coal gold but europe needed gold so they came here and said oh they have gold and said oh you want it yeah like yeah we didn't use it for anything here in europe in america so so this this concept of what is money, what is value, is actually time and survival. Like, how much time do I need to do something? How much energy do I need to do something? How much food do I need to keep doing this? Yeah.

How much safety I need in order to do this so wealth money it's a way to actually allow you to do stuff like for example i if i would have to work in other things in order to pay my food for to do this for free i wouldn't be doing this because i need to work eight hours a day right then i would i would be tired and so on so i cannot dedicate my life to my mission yeah if other people don't give me uh don't give me money for me to keep going yeah so because today that's how it works. Before, it was food. So people would give me food. Or like I have traveled the world without money for a long time. Just being at home with people, they give me food and everything.

So I've been traveling like that. But suddenly, I needed to reach more. And people started to offer me more. It was not me asking more. They started to offer me more. Wow. Because they knew that I needed to do stuff that in the other way I wouldn't be able to. Yeah. So my relationship with money is money is not the important thing.

It's what is the purpose you need the money for. Right. What is the mission behind it? what is the purpose you need the money for right what is the mission behind it what is the mission behind what is the need of of that resource because sometimes it's not about having money to do stuff it's about being open to receive the wealth in different ways yep and um most of the things that i did in my life weren't because of money. Yeah. Were because the people that had the money helped me to do it. Interesting. I didn't need the money.

Yeah. There's people that they win the lottery. They lose all their money. There's people that make money unethically and they end up losing it because money is energy. Right. So you're basically saying if you make it in the wrong way, you're going to lose it. Yeah. You're going to lose it or you're going to have a lot of problems yeah um so um so there are there are a lot of unethical people that have made a lot of money and they created and they they have an empire of money and so why are they doing

good in life with money if they are unethical well because because money and ethics is not related money is energy if you know how to handle energy you will have the money yeah so uh and most of the most of the people that are spiritual are not properly handling money because we don't care about money i noticed that a lot of spiritual people don't care and because because they don't care then they are complaining about people that has the money and and they are not able to do their good their their things for humanity because they have to work all the time to pay their taxes or their food yeah so they are losing energy in a war in a war that they shouldn't be fighting yeah it doesn't even matter right exactly yes yeah

um because it's not about having or not having money it's about what is the purpose i'm giving to the money yeah absolutely matthias i've learned a lot man it's been fun again anything you want to close off with or promote i don't know any courses events you got coming up? I just would like to say what I told you before to you, that next year, 2024, for me, it's going to be very important to make a new reconnection of the network. So I probably will open gatherings in Egypt for that in every Salsa de Equinox.

So I would just say for everybody to pay attention to that in case you want to go or in case you want to connect online to be in the same frequency. Absolutely. I'll definitely be there. Thanks so much for coming on again. Thank you. Yeah. Thanks for watching guys as always.

And I'll see you next time.