Digital Social Hour - Mikki Mase EXPOSES Casino Scams Pt 2 | DSH #312

Episode Date: February 27, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome back to the digital social hour part two with Mickey because it was that good. Yeah, we had to bring this fool back just because I honestly had so many more questions and there is a part two because before he left and you guys didn't really catch this whole part but Mickey had to go and ask for fucking permission right now like he literally looked at his phone and said yo guys I actually got a, I got a tip and i asked him why he said uh he said he's gotta go to the win and ask for permission to go play in a fucking poker tournament tell us what the fuck just happened the past what was it hour and a half and and uh what they said to you yeah so i wanted to play the win tournament tomorrow and the poker go tournament on sunday and the win is obviously owned by the win and poker goes on by aria and i'm barred from both um so i was calling like see if it was gonna be an issue like poker go is still a third party right yeah it's a third party and so is most of the win tournaments like they're like wpt like all this
Starting point is 00:00:57 like so the question is like where do you draw the line on what is gaming at the win what is gaming at the authority like does wpt even get to say anything because like obviously i'd be pissed if i was wpt or one of these gaming companies and you're taking one of my biggest players out of the game because you have a vendetta against them like can you mark up the chain or so the so for me i didn't go through like wpt or i i did technically go through poker go but this is a problem man like. Like, these are all employees. You feel me? And so they're just possibly- Following orders. Yeah, that's all the, they're professional order followers.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Right. And you know, I'm not faulting them for that, but it's like, they got no balls. They don't know how to push anything. They don't know how to forcefully- It's not their job to do that. They're not getting paid to do that. They don't give a shit.
Starting point is 00:01:38 They're not getting paid to get the answer yes. Whether the answer is yes or no, their pay is the same. Right. So it's really hard to like navigate this. And a lot of these executives don't want to take my direct call and they have a lot of stoppage points you know like in their office their assistants to say listen prevent calls from getting to me and it's really hard to break through that barrier so i showed up in the win i pulled up right now we've been going on the phone all week and i'm like can i play the tournament or not like
Starting point is 00:02:01 what's the deal and uh they're like there's's no gaming. I was like, yeah, but poker doesn't hurt you, right? Like, if I win the whole tournament, you guys still make extra money. It's just more mines. So, like, where do you draw the line? And it's a third party. So, nobody gave me an answer. I pulled up, and I'm like, what's good? And they basically just sent me around in a circle.
Starting point is 00:02:17 At the end of it, they said, bro, you're banned from all gaming on our premises. That's where the buck stops. And I do believe I can get this overturned, particularly for poker. But being that it's Friday now and I've been working all week on it, I don't think I'm going to get it done for tomorrow and Sunday. So they basically sent you on a wild goose chase and then told you to fuck off. Yeah, they told me to get lost, basically. Wait, so you're basically banned from the World Series of Poker then?
Starting point is 00:02:40 It's so interesting, the World Series of Poker. So I was banned from the World Series of Poker because – Because of World Series or because of the – No, no, no. World Series would pay to have me. WPT would and Poker Go would. All these places would pay to have me. It's the casinos that they're in.
Starting point is 00:02:55 I'm curious. There has to be some type of committee or some shit to go to and talk to them or talk to the actual company. But they also like besides that a lot of the casinos just hate me on like a vendetta on a personal level they also don't really care like in their mind first of all they do not exercise use of celebrities like casinos are very old-minded it's mostly mostly old guys you know from they're like second generation from the birth of vegas you know what i'm saying like their their dads are here with Meyer and Bugsy. You know? So they don't even know who is who. They don't step outside the casino.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Yeah, they don't know what's good. They don't even know what's going on. So they don't really care. Like, they're like, we don't. You don't mean shit to us. Yeah, that's their attitude. Yeah. It's fucked.
Starting point is 00:03:40 So I can't even play poker, you know, in a lot of these tournaments and stuff. But the World Series thing, so. What do you do next? I mean, like, at this point, it's like, at what point do you get, poker, you know, in a lot of these tournaments and stuff with the World Series thing. So what do you do next? I mean, like at this point, it's like at what point do you get like you have to? I'm sure you're as frustrated and, you know, tired of just constantly being put through the ringer. Like for me, if I get put on a wild goose chase past the second person, I start pulling people by the collar. Like, yo, what the fuck's going on here?
Starting point is 00:04:00 You know, I you've got much more patience than me just to be respectful enough and say that you know i i'm curious where do you go from here when it comes to i wouldn't say striking back because you don't want to see offensive but really you probably playing the defensive what's the next move well what i've been doing in like the like the interim is i've been playing like private games i play a lot of private games mostly in la some in vegas some new york some miami some kansas when you say private games you're talking about like you know people you know privately organized something at a house and they have you know people coming in their net worth and yeah sort of like that sort of like that yeah like for example you know like we played here in the studio on the table out there like you guys aren't going
Starting point is 00:04:42 to stop me from playing you know know what I'm saying? Right. Everybody's money's welcome. Yeah, right. Exactly. So it's like that. But basically, yeah, private games. And yeah, you know, I said this two years ago, again, in that first ever interview I did.
Starting point is 00:04:58 I have a couple of plans that'll bring the casinos to the knees. The thing is that they're not overnight, you know, these plans. And I wouldn't say that I'm that far, possibly, from activating or being prepared to, you know, these plans. And I wouldn't say that I'm that far possibly from, to activating or being prepared to, you know, but, but they're big, big plans that are hard plans are very challenging. These are massive corporations against me. Monsters. Public companies.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Yeah. So it's, it's quite an ordeal. It's not just like, I couldn't, you know, like I couldn't just like go to the owner's door and be like, Hey man, let me in, you know, let me play. And he's door and be like hey man let me in you know let me play and he's gonna be like okay a lot of barriers dude yeah and a bureaucracy the the bureaucracy part of it is crazy because people don't really understand you know once they once you have like a stigma attached to your name in vegas all the other casinos kind of follow suit you know one casino reports you you're you're you're pretty much getting in that little book that that everybody has so i feel like that that that's probably got to be the hard part breaking out of that stigma i mean i don't have you ever been challenged at the tables before you ever had problems like this i don't gamble enough for them to even care about me yeah i was about to say
Starting point is 00:05:57 sean's throwing down a hundred dollar chip or something you know like fuck i lost 100 bucks i'm out what's the biggest uh poker hand poker hand you've played in and also seen? Poker? Poker, yeah. Poker-specific? There's different, I would say, like, median pot sizes, depending on the stakes of the game. So if you're playing, like, a 10-25,
Starting point is 00:06:17 like, the bigger median pot sizes you're going to see is, like, 10K a pot, which is a pretty big pot. Theoretically, there's some outliers that go above, but, like as like the upper level that's a lot then if you play like 100 200 then you're probably considering a higher median level like 30 to 50 000 if you're playing like uh 200 400 800 or 500 1000 which is about the same Then you see like a lot of at the high end, like 300 to $500,000 pots. And then beyond that, you're not too far over a million dollars a pot, but it's not like there's usually, there's usually not like one particular one. It's like, this is sort of the range of, of the bigger pots. And so I would say if I had to give you a straight
Starting point is 00:07:01 answer, maybe a million and a half bucks. so you've had a million dollars of your own money in one hand well let's it depends how many players so that's an accumulative yeah cumulative a couple people oh so if it's like heads up it'd be you know maybe you're putting up 200 g's he's putting up 200 g's he put a 200 g's you know what i'm saying that's still crazy though it's still fucking bananas anything over 10 bands is enough for me to be like very nice i played a pot on tv that was it did technically hold the record for biggest televised poker pot in in poker history it was 1.6 million dollars yeah it it also did got it did get beaten recently uh from eric person's million dollar buying game they had like a 1.9 million dollar pot that was played i think it was roble and um antonius i think okay
Starting point is 00:07:46 but uh even my 1.6 which before that held the record it was i think three ways was three of us and there was four in the last moment someone folded so a lot of his money was burned in there it was 1.6 but there wasn't technically 1.6 because once he folded the biggest stack was only eligible for 1.6 and i was like me and the other guy had less so maybe it was like uh eight hundred thousand dollars still bananas still nuts what about uh what's the most you've won in a back route session my biggest single win ever was 11 million 526 thousand on one flip no no and in a cumulative okay i was about to say like bro you're a nut one session 50 50 odd no i wish they'd let me bet that Okay, cool. I was about to say, like, bro, you're a nut. One session. That's a 50-50 odd.
Starting point is 00:08:26 No, I wish they'd let me bet that much. I used to fight with them to get me to bet a million dollars a hand. What's your minimum? I don't have a minimum. I'm saying, like, no, no. Your minimum bet, or I'm sorry, your max bet. Like, what do they allow you to bet in Baccarat? Well, they used to, but it used to be $300,000.
Starting point is 00:08:41 But I average bet, I average about $250,000 a hand. My exact average is two. average is the house each bet yeah my my actual las vegas average bet is 243 000 exactly holy what casinos can you fucking do that at right now uh what's left sort of none the only casinos you gamble downtown at all like you hit i can't i'm not allowed i'm not and i can't hit circa why yeah banned god i don't think no circus is independent no the circuit is owned by the d okay i'm banned by all d so where can you gamble in vegas sort of nowhere so how do you gamble in vegas i sort of don't are you banned in la too no i'm not being in la there's limited gaming wait back the up
Starting point is 00:09:22 why the do you even come to vegas then what's the point i don't come anymore what do you mean yeah what's the point to fucking be here ever i'd be so mad all the time can you eat in their restaurants only some the win will let me in which is how i went up pulled up on them today they'll let me inside they're happy to have me you know they they gave me a limo to go from one door to the other door because i don't want to walk to my car. Okay. You know, so, like, they'll let me in or whatever. But I could eat at the Wynn. But only certain casinos. No MGMs.
Starting point is 00:09:50 I can't even be in their parking lot. That's, like, 80%. Casinos, MGM. Jesus. No Caesars. No MGM. No fucking resorts. What's left?
Starting point is 00:10:02 Wynn. Basically nothing. No, I can't. I can only be at the MGM. That's what I'm saying. That's all that's left when nothing no i can't i can only be at that's what i'm saying that's all that's all that's left anything jeez i'm i'm i'm i'm low-key flabbergasted because no like where do you go from there like low-key if i'm in your position i'm either doing one of a few things i'm hiring like some type of legal representation to try to like fight this fight
Starting point is 00:10:21 the good fight type bullshit or i'm just like 100 anti-vegas and i'm just gonna pray that i meet like an exec one day and kick the shits or you know get somebody's email contact explaining them the situation and just get you know god mode hit on me but or maybe just buy a casino myself oh sexual tell me more wink wink okay i like would your gambling strategies work on online casinos you think it's hard to tell i have um i have a lot of evidence on the lack of regulation and there's no control and there's no oversight have you played on any sites only a couple of times because i was curious what the setup is yeah what their setup is you know did you play like the live poker you played like the the bullshit one where it's like a computer generated
Starting point is 00:11:08 one well the baccarat and the blackjack you know they have like live dealers that's what i'm saying like the live dealers yeah yeah i've done that a couple of times like secretly privately because i'm not here i don't want to say it or say the name because i don't want anyone to think it's publicity i don't i'm not here to promote okay sure i don't care about any of them you know except his own yeah um but uh yeah i played in it and um i don't know i saw immediate mathematical improbabilities that would make sense because there's no regulation i'm just i won't name names either, but I do know that one of these sites has extremely, let's say, unfavorable odds to the point where it's 100% a highway robbery and you don't even know it. I know the owners of almost every online casino and I've told all of them the same thing. They all want me to, you know, the way Steve will do it. Endorse it, right. same thing they all want me to you know the way
Starting point is 00:12:05 steve will do it right yeah they all want that because it's great money it's great advertising yeah my conversions would be the highest conversions they ever had from a single marketer easy yeah easy your following is is detail oriented to that specific demographic literal demographic that's my point is it would a to b yeah so i told all them the same thing i said um i said i'll do it but only if you also let me live stream me coming in and checking the integrity of your games and they said no and i'll tell you what uh so far they haven't returned a contract yeah yeah i bet and again half that is not being filmed in the states either you all know it's like all overseas a lot of these are being filmed in different countries that have different regulations and and then again if you don't know the certain
Starting point is 00:12:48 bylaws and the and the you know discrepancies that are hidden within you know how they operate their business you're getting regardless right you're getting i don't make money on social media you know we spoke shortly about i don't make money on social media i don't make money from people losing money i don't make money from my fans being heard i don't make money on social media i don't make money from people losing money i don't make money from my fans being heard i don't make money on any of that so for me to go and market these casinos just because they offered me a fat bag and i know that it's harmful to my fans shows you have integrity bro it's very uninteresting to me you could have made millions more than just millions yeah i mean there was endless bro we just talked about this whole aiden ross situation guy's getting 100 million and look what he's doing all day.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Yeah. You know, and I could have made a lot of deals. I could have accepted a lot of offers, and I didn't because I didn't appreciate their products or their service or lack of integrity or what damage it can do to my fans. And I'm not really interested in that. But I do want to know, Sean, how to make actual money on social media because I never made a dollar on social media.
Starting point is 00:13:44 That's definitely your area. I mean, the hard part you already did which is getting views getting eyeballs there it becomes building a brand just email brands get in touch with the right people get sponsors you've already done the hard part i mean bro i have like a about a billion views on the internet yeah and i've still never made a dollar from anything i don't you need someone on your team that is a brand partnerships manager you need a good pr like a good publicist loki yeah they'll bring deals for you facts she'll literally just look you up and down and be like all right this is your demographic or this is what you fit or this is whatever your categories you fit in for the brand's sake and then go out and directly attack them like basically
Starting point is 00:14:25 what my agency will help do a lot of artists of celebrities influencers is that we'll match organic brand like organic partnerships with brands because i'm not trying to hit somebody up and be like yo use this fucking product that you've never used and you'll probably never use i'm trying to hit you up and be like yo what are the top three things you spend the most money on? Oh, you fucking go through gallons of toothpaste every month? Bet. I'm going to go hit up Crest. I'm going to go hit up gum companies. I've talked to people that claim to be that PR person.
Starting point is 00:14:55 I've claimed to people that be that, what do you call it? Brand partnerships? Yeah, I've spoken to people like that never once has anybody came through. I've never made a dollar on this. Wow. I have a billion views on the internet we'll connect you with some guys and again it's all about finding the the we were just talking about this with brandon it's just about finding organic partnerships bro you can't you you have to surround yourself with people whose best interests are not just for their own outlook it's it's for you and for the betterment of the surrounding of the team
Starting point is 00:15:23 you know what i mean and so when you bring on guys like that or you bring on people that they don't need the money. That's one thing that I've always noticed when it comes to great business. When I do great business with people, I realize 10 out of 10 times I don't need the money. They don't need the money. But we both realize that not only will this make us and a lot of other people money, but it's something that can be done only through a you know very few or select people so there's a niche there i'm like okay cool this is something that we can go in and exploit if you want if you want to help me with that when we're done here
Starting point is 00:15:54 i want to touch up on the drug stuff because you're completely sober now but prior to that you had a huge drug addiction how did you get out of that and what advice would you give people struggling with that this is my least favorite topic why oh my god tell us why so uh yeah we'll we'll touch on it and then skip a stone don't worry yeah yeah so i've been uh completely you know straight edge and all for seven and a half years i don't i don't curse i don't drink sugar i don't need sugar fucking pirate no sorry i bro i have more curse words tattooed on me than you'll probably say in a week uh no i have the f word i have the f word tattooed twice just on my fingers i just said fuck like three times in two sentences like i don't think you're even listening you're like phased out from head to toe i have curse words tattooed on
Starting point is 00:16:40 me my whole stomach you know i think fuck was actually one of my first words but uh yeah you know so i don't curse i don't go to strip clubs i don't make transactions for sex i don't drink caffeine back up you don't go to strip clubs why it's just it was just part i used to have a very disciplined life i felt that uh i was like um developing a belief about women from the time i was spending in a strip club and then projecting that belief on all women. And I thought it made it very challenging for me to have wholesome relationships or healthy relationships with women. Wow. Interesting. Wow. I was never going to expect that kind of answer to come out of you. I'm beyond impressed. Beyond impressed. I don't take Advil.
Starting point is 00:17:21 I don't, I only drink water. I don't do a lot of things. And drinking and drugging is some of the things I don't do. And yeah, I don't know. So it's been like seven and a half years. And I was always very like, yeah, none of that. I don't even take vitamins. I know it's like, oh, vitamins are good. I have my reasons.
Starting point is 00:17:40 I just don't. I don't need an outside substance to make my body up down left or right you know it's going to heal itself stronger on its own yeah than it will sure with with chemical substances i love that i fucking love that yeah so uh it was always so private about it like you know i had a girlfriend she lived with me for three years so we dated for a long time and for the up until the six month like it took six months of her living with me to even figure out that I was sober because most people are self-consumed. So even if all three of us went out, let's say five nights in a row and we went to a bar all nights or a club, whatever, all five nights, we're going to get bottles and you're going to offer me a drink. I'm saying, no, no, I'm good. I'm good. And you're going to forget. You're going to turn to the next person, offer them a shot, have a shot and not even realize I said no.
Starting point is 00:18:21 Ask again. Yeah. And I'm going to say no 10 times. And you're never going to really realize. I'm going to do it every night. At the end of the week, you're never even going to realize I turned down a shot 100% of the time every single day. So nobody really asked me. If they ever thought about it, they're like, oh, he's just not drinking tonight, or he's driving, or he don't want to drink,
Starting point is 00:18:36 or whatever it is. And I was always very anonymous about it, and I liked that. I thought there was enough things about me that people could judge or challenge or make difficult in my life that I didn't need to add another one that I used to abuse substances. I didn't think it was necessary. I think with that no jumper interview, again, I specifically, when I said Adam, pick one thing, I said specifically, do not mention my sobriety. I want to keep that to myself. I've kept it so close. And I only would share it if I think it's going to help somebody else.
Starting point is 00:19:07 And that's how I lived my life up until that interview. And again, I wasn't PR trained. And I felt like I lost control. I said a lot of things that I'd rather have kept private. And I didn't. And it had a lot of consequences. Some good, some bad, some indifferent. But one of them was now that it was public information.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Kind of a weight off your shoulders, I have to feel like no, I thought it was a weight on because now everybody else wants to ask me about it. Don't act like it doesn't happen. But I feel like listen, and again, you you just said, you know, second ago, if you feel like it's gonna help somebody, well, shit, I mean, how can you tell how many people like, if this podcast gets a million views, and somebody listens to your story, and it's like, you know what, dude? that's the shit. That's what I want. Like, I'm going to fucking turn that light switch that we talked about.
Starting point is 00:19:50 I mean, you never know. You really don't know what, what, what scenarios are going to, are going to arise from just telling your story. Yeah. But I just feel like there's other ways.
Starting point is 00:19:59 I, I tell my story. I used to, I mean, I, I actively participate in a 12 step program and i share my message quite regularly and i give back and i sponsor hundreds of i have hundreds of sponsors and grand sponsors and great grand sponsors and i'm very active i was a circuit speaker before the pandemic
Starting point is 00:20:15 i i do h and i uh i don't know five times a month and now you're fucking pr trained what's the problem yeah what's the problem you Yeah. What's the problem? You know this. You know, I give whatever help I can to those struggling with sobriety, but I think it's all like setting based. And I don't know if like an open platform. I do believe that it is a very private thing. And I have a lot of friends that also go through,
Starting point is 00:20:36 that are going through and have gone through sobriety. And I guess really for me, it's more of like to each his own. You know, each person has their own chemical imbalance or balances and and they know what's right for them. And I feel like to be so severe, so against it, you know, like, if you want to be sober, I support that. That's great. I don't think that that's something you should go necessarily go around and preach to everybody. That's a time and place.
Starting point is 00:21:01 I think it's also corny, bro. I see people post like we do recover my one year chip and I'm like, suck my dick. Oh, this is that's like it's a time and place i think it's also corny bro i see people post like we do recover my one year chip and i'm like suck my dick oh what is it like this is corny that's that's that's that's for attention yeah you and i both know the difference yeah you and i both know the difference i'm like bro like you are being an attention whore you know alcoholics and addicts are attention selfish you know the restless irritable discontented they're selfish self-seeking dishonest you know that's who dishonest. That's who they are embedded. That's who they are inside of them. And they work the 12 steps to prevent them
Starting point is 00:21:28 from continuing to be that way. And they use drugs and alcohol as a solution. They go, I hate myself because I am so selfish and self-seeking, et cetera. How can I feel better about me? I want to numb these feelings. And then they start consuming drugs and alcohol. And they go, this is working until that becomes its own problem. So by working the 12 steps, you become less selfish and self-seeking and dishonest and etc and there's much more to it it's much more expansive than that but how are they going to then recover and then literally go back to their faults to discuss their recoveredness you know being attention seeking like that was the problem to begin with social media that's the true addiction brother yeah so anyway long story short it's my least favorite topic. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:22:05 Respect, respect. All right. So we'll segment into our last little jump here. We'll go into foods. How about that? I was going to say girls, but. You want to go into girls or food? That's a coin flip.
Starting point is 00:22:16 How about that? You pick, you pick. I don't care. All right. We'll go for half and half. Okay. You hit the girls question. All right.
Starting point is 00:22:22 I'll hit the girls. I've seen on some interviews, you said you were a sex addict. You participate in orgies. I didn't use the word addict, but go ahead. Okay. Whatever you want to do. You participate in orgies. But then I've also seen a side of you where you said you're in a committed relationship.
Starting point is 00:22:35 Yeah. Where are you at now? What does that have to do with one or another? Well, I'm with you, bro. That was a great moment i know plenty of guys that are married or in committed relationships that do fucking freaky stuff crazy shit i wouldn't even i couldn't even dream about i really couldn't i've had each his own i've had 50 of my relationships where we were in a real relate you know like not monogamous, but we were together, but we were, uh, together
Starting point is 00:23:06 experiencing, you know, really wild sex things, group and, and et cetera, you know, whatever it was. And the other 50, yeah, right. And then the other 50% were more monogamous and traditional. And I've experienced both. And I think they both work depending on where my partner is at in her life and where I'm at in my life. I've been with my girl for two years. We met like in a group sex setting. So in the beginning, that's the activities we're in. And then she said, I'm no longer interested in that. I just want to be focused on you.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Are you okay with that? But you live your life. And I said, yeah, that's cool. So basically it was like a one-sided open relationship. It would be like the very layman's terms. It's much more deeper than that, but that's the layman's terms, right? And then like nine months ago, I was on like my last little orgy tour, and I just was very uncomfortable with how I felt inside.
Starting point is 00:23:55 I wasn't happy. I was just – I just wasn't happy. I didn't – it didn't make me feel the way I wanted it to make me feel. And I was in such a high stimulated environment. It was been like a two week tour or so. And I said, this must be the problem, right? Like this is what's driving this internal discontentedness. And I said, I'm done. And I called my girl and I said, Hey, like I've been for gone for two weeks. I've been doing this and I'm not interested in this. I don't like the way it makes me feel. I want to give all my
Starting point is 00:24:23 attention to you and, and work on our next chapter of our relationship just one-on-one and she goes i'd love that and so it's been about nine months we've been doing that and you know what what the fuck is a sex tour well um you know i have um friends mostly that are females that live all over the world that want to engage in high-stimulated sexual environments. I love the way he's so PR trained now. You hear the way he's tiptoeing around this? Because I would have been like, I got bitches all over the world
Starting point is 00:24:53 that are trying to smash you, dick. Yeah, I mean, I know a lot of- Can't say it like that, though. I know a lot of women that want to engage in these environments. The thing is, it's hard to find a group of people that are all like-minded because it's such a vulnerable environment, you know, for you and them. And most of you are
Starting point is 00:25:08 strangers to all experience each other. You're most vulnerable with your biggest insecurities and, you know, and there's so many personalities. And when you're in a relationship, even if it's completely platonic, let's say you and I, right. There's going to be things I have to learn about you that you like or don't like. And I like it, don't like. So now imagine doing that for 10 people, but you're absolute most vulnerable and there's no room for escape. So there's women that want to engage in this, but it's hard to find the right environment. So usually when I come into town, I'll say, hey, I'm going to create this environment. It's like a safe space. And this is our intention. And they'll engage. And they don't all live in LA.
Starting point is 00:25:40 They don't all live in Vegas. They don't get to see me a lot. So this last tour I did, we started in Maryland and then we moved to Atlantic City and then we went to LA and then it ended in Vegas. And I think we had plans to go out other cities, but it was during Vegas when I said, I don't like doing this. I want to go home. Yeah. I want to go home. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:58 Yeah. Interesting. You want to touch up on food? I don't even fucking remember what I was going to ask this man after that. That just took a whole journey of its own uh yeah i mean shit since you can only have a very limited you know variety of food in vegas you know due to the fucking casinos where do you like to eat what's like the pop-up spots for you to hit bro shout out jesse ray's you guys ate at jesse ray's you don't know about jesse ray's What is that? The barbecue, bro.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Shout out Jesse Ray's. That's number one in Vegas. Okay. Whoa. Number one? Bro, I'm telling you right now, check this out, bro. I'm from the South, so be careful what you say around here, bro. I lived in the Bayou, bro.
Starting point is 00:26:35 I lived in Louisiana. I've lived in Mississippi. I lived in Biloxi. Okay. I've lived in New Orleans. I also know- What's this cat's name? Jesse.
Starting point is 00:26:43 The owner's name is Mike. It's named after his wife jesse ray write this shit down what are you doing well i have taken all of my friends that are from the south that know real barbecue i'm sure just like you to jesse race and it will blow you out of the water is this the one that's in north vegas they just moved it was it was in north vegas and they had like an outdoor area and they had to like walk through a little line and get it or no no you know you know where dipped auto works is their old one i do their their newest i believe it's their newest spot it's
Starting point is 00:27:16 literally across their jesse ray's old location is literally across the spot from dipped auto works location but they just moved i forget the address but definitely go check it out that would be number one and it's not a fine dining like it you're gonna get messy yeah you're gonna you come in with a white t-shirt you leave with a brown shirt you know what i mean but it's fun it's a cool spot and it's the best food jesse ray's we're going now we're going yeah and then also you guys know uh what what's that truck that does all the parties? The Shawnee Styles party. They do my parties. Gosh. Milkshake Wasted.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Okay. Milkshake Wasted. Again, I don't eat sugar, so I slightly have to defer this one. They cater all of my events. They make those crazy outlandish milkshakes where they have, like, donuts sticking out and cotton candy five feet high. It's called Milkshake Wasted. It's family-owned. They do it all out of feet high. It's called Milkshake Wasted. It's family owned.
Starting point is 00:28:07 They do it all out of a truck. They are the nicest family in the world. Absolutely. I've only got 10 out of 10 ratings from anybody who's tried it. Somebody get me a fucking, somebody get me a phone. Oh, man. Those would be my food recommendations. Sean, this is what we're doing. Hibachi.
Starting point is 00:28:22 This motherfucker's doing milkshakes, bro. What's up? Step this shit up. Let's go. I haven't had a good doing milkshakes, bro. What's up? Step this shit up. Let's go. I haven't had a good milkshake in Vegas, actually. You know what? Actually, the only real milkshakes that I've been to is the one at Venetian. What's that place called?
Starting point is 00:28:36 Blacktap? Venetian. He's probably banned. Blacktap, right? I'm definitely banned. All right. Well, fuck. I hate my guts.
Starting point is 00:28:41 I think I know what you're talking about. Yeah. I mean, look, I want to focus on you for the closing statement here. And and, you know, out of all the topics that we covered, you know, what would what advice would you give to guys kind of upping their social media presence or, you know, beginning their journey on, you know, become becoming an influencer? Brian, that's a really hard one for me to answer. Because I also am learning. I started social media to pure boredom. I was actually encouraged by some of the owners of casinos. They were like, your story is cool. People don't know this life exists, right? You know, like, I'm still learning. Like I just told you guys, I've never made $1 on this. So like, I can't give you business advice on social media.
Starting point is 00:29:21 No, just like personal experiences that you've learned along the way personal experiences is that everybody you ask will have a different answer to how to handle something so you're gonna have to figure a lot of it out on your own something that i think something that i think was like my biggest um like advantage was i in i'm really bad with computers right like i'm not like i don't know how to edit or stuff like that. But I found like a couple of apps that I became pretty like fluent in. And I enjoy, it's like a hobby of mine to edit videos for stories. And the details that I put into my story post, I have a lot of friends with many, like you, Sean, multi-million followers.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Bro, when I show any of my friends like you guys, you're all blown away by how detail-oriented I am. And the consumer has no idea that they're absorbing my details in the stories. You know, my story views are in the six figures. Wow. My replies are over 5,000. My shares, like the, you know, like you could share a story, are always in the thousands. Yeah, I get six-figure views. I always screenshot it because I think it's pretty cool. And so a lot of you guys have all the 10 million followers. I've never seen your analytics, but a lot of them. You guys don't even compare to mine. A lot of them don't touch shit, dude.
Starting point is 00:30:32 I say this all the time. It's hard because there was a period of time where people came and were buying fake followers or were buying blue check marks or we're buying views. Yeah. And I think right now these platforms have definitely done a decent job of cracking down and kind of, you know, getting that under control. But at the same time, they've also inhibited because, you know, as we say, there find us a few find us anybody that has a million followers or the million views. It doesn't exist. Yeah. You know, these platforms don't want you to have all those. I have 30 engagement that's the highest that's still yeah that's still incredibly high i
Starting point is 00:31:09 think mine's maybe 18 that's really high that's really but see i i have also i've culminated mine because i found out over time it's like yeah i could keep my my page public and everybody you know and their mother can fucking share it and all that but i don't want that i want to have actual detailed relationships with all the people that follow me. And I may be there. So follow them back. Because if I can go through and tell you all 18,000 of my followers or how I met them or who I know them through, I mean, maybe not all 18,000, but at least 15 of them.
Starting point is 00:31:40 I can tell you that right now I'm getting a couple thousand views per per post. And for somebody on a private page, that's insane. I think what I curated because of my concentration on my stories, I don't make hard posts. But my stories have like serious juice in them. And my stories go viral. But you're not whoring yourself out. You're not standing behind products.
Starting point is 00:32:01 You're not pimping shit out. You're not trying to sell people. Never once in a while. But that's my point is that people go on to your shit and they appreciate you because of how genuine and organic you are when you come on and you're like yo i'm playing dominoes with fucking six million dollars check me out people look at that they're like bro this is a fucking fan fuck a dream this is a fantasy of mine i want to just hang out with this guy for an hour they look at that and they appreciate that because nobody else online is doing that nobody's living their life
Starting point is 00:32:27 like you well i think i think what had happened that was to my favor is because i never hard post but i put such powerful juice in my stories yeah they deform like this cult following because everybody knows that as soon as they see like that i have a story up they like watch that because that's where the that's where the entertainment from dirty goth boy brand is so i think it form this cult following. They're always on alert for the video because I never hard post. So they're not worried about looking at my page. They just want to see the story.
Starting point is 00:32:50 They're like, we know there's action there. And they look. So I think it formed this cult following. They're pretty diehard fans. Built a personalized brand. Tell them where to find you, man. At Dirty Goth Boy. And boy is BOI on everything.
Starting point is 00:33:01 Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, whatever. Sean Mike Kelly. And I'm Ari Gold, ETH. Well, last thing I want to say, because every video this happens, I have a mild case of Tourette's. I've had Tourette's my whole life. I love that. So I'm always licking my lips and touching my face
Starting point is 00:33:16 and moving stuff like fidgeting. I've been fidgeting the whole time. Bro, people try to tear me apart in these videos. Why do you care? I'm like, bro, just kind of. Why do you care? That just doesn't make me feel good. I'm just saying. But again, why do you let it affect you? I want to touch on this because, look, this entire time I've been fidgeting, moving.
Starting point is 00:33:33 I'm the most ADD human being. I can't stop. There's just something in me that just moves all the time. You know what I tell people? People accuse me of being like a reptilian. Bro, I'm letting you know this. A little crack in him. Yeah, people always accuse me of being on drugs.
Starting point is 00:33:47 I just have Tourette's, bro. It's not that serious. Fuck that. You know what you tell them? I just have more energy. Stop being jealous. Beach. Oh, you can't say the bitch part, but you can say beach.
Starting point is 00:33:56 I'm just saying they accuse me of being on drugs. I just have Tourette's. It's not that serious. I mean, I wear sunglasses everywhere and everybody thinks I'm high all the time. I mean, you are high all the time. Not all of them. I'm high right now.. I mean, you are high all the time. Not all of them. I'm high right now. All right, guys.
Starting point is 00:34:08 We're ending it there. Peace. Peace.

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