Digital Social Hour - My Surprising Shift From Anti-Trump to 2024 Supporter | Adam Sosnick DSH #762

Episode Date: September 27, 2024

In this episode of the Digital Social Hour, we dive into a surprising political transformation with Adam Saic, exploring his unexpected shift from an Anti-Trump stance to supporting the 2024 campaign. 🎙️🚀 Join Sean Kelly as he uncovers Adam's journey, filled with unexpected turns, and discusses the challenges and insights gained along the way. Packed with valuable insights, this episode is not just about politics but also about life lessons, strategic thinking, and embracing change. Don't miss out on this engaging conversation where Adam shares his experiences from the world of politics, finance, and personal growth. 🤔💡 Tune in now to discover what led Adam to support Trump, the power of strategic decision-making, and how embracing change can lead to unexpected success. Watch now and subscribe for more insider secrets! 📺 Hit that subscribe button and stay tuned for more eye-opening stories on the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! 🚀 Join the conversation and be part of our community! CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Adam Sosnick 04:44 - Political Landscape 07:15 - Changes in Politics 10:31 - Adam's Support for Trump 11:36 - Interviewing Controversial Figures 19:07 - Lessons from Keemstar 23:55 - Life as a Marathon 26:14 - Importance of Availability 27:30 - Sean's Job at Valuetainment 34:05 - Finding Adam Online 35:35 - Being a Good Number 2 36:44 - Outro APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: [e-mail] GUEST: Adam Sosnick https://www.instagram.com/sostalksmoney https://app.minnect.com/expert/AdamSosnick https://www.instagram.com/pbd.podcast https://www.youtube.com/PBDPodcast www.youtube.com/@UC7muJQNjKAQh0n6bZdYVGKQ SPONSORS: Deposyt Payment Processing: https://www.deposyt.com/seankelly LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Here's what I tell people about politics, especially when you're online doing shows, go all in or just stay the hell away from it. If that's not your brand, there's some people like, yo, I don't even touch politics straight up. It's like, cool. All good. But if you're going to get in, own it. If not stay away. All right, guys, you got Adam Sosnick here. I rarely see you as a guest on other shows, man. So I appreciate you coming on. Thank you, dude. Yeah, I mean, you called me. You said you're in town.

I said, let's go. I know you're always so busy. I am an hour late, though. So I apologize to the guests out there. You're good, man. Stuff happens. I heard the traffic's bad from Fort Lauderdale. You know, you're moving, you're grooving, but I don't drive.

Really? I don't have a car. I haven't had a car in like 13 years. It didn't happen by accident. It's strategic. And I don't drive i i rather than doing the driving and the parking and this and that and i just uber lift everywhere and i just uh can work strategize make calls yeah probably saves you a lot of time and stress actually i did a whole video on people think i'm crazy because I haven't had a car in 13 years.

And the reason I actually didn't have a car was I always wanted a Mercedes Benz. I always like in college, I always had a piece of shit car. High school, I was like always like the poor kid at the rich school because I got a sports scholarship and all the kids in school had Range Rovers and Beamers. And I had this beat up rusty Honda Accord. My mom's like, hand me down. And I was like, I always want a benz and when i started making some money in my uh late 20s early 30s i was like all right i'm getting a mercedes and then i did the math and i was like you can buy a new one you guys i'm very you know mathematically sort of inclined i'm like you can do this or this and i ended up buying a used mercedes actually off

a buddy of mine and um two years to the day the car broke down and i was like oh shit how much is gonna cost like yeah to fix the engine it's gonna be like three grand like three grand there's all the other and i was actually essentially like living in la for that year this is a random story but because one of my best friends is that guy chris humphries that married kim kardashian if you remember this in 2010 2011 and i got sort of catapulted into this kardashian life because i was a groomsman in the wedding i walked chloe down the aisle the whole thing but the whole year we're like essentially traveling with kim i'm staying at kim's house we're going to joe francis you remember him from girls gone

wild staying at his house in Mexico. And I'm doing this whole thing. And I was like, yeah, I'll just deal with the car when I get back. And when I got back to Miami, because I'm born and raised in Miami, I was like, let me see how long I can go without having to get a car. Like if I want to get a car, cool, but let's see how long I can go. Now it's 13 years since I haven't had a car. And I just did a video because I'm up and back and forward to Valuetainment when I do my stuff with PBD. And I said, here's the three reasons that I don't have a car. So number one is I value my time. Time is money. And I did the math, which you should too, of how much I make an hour when I'm working. And I did the math and that hour, you know, 10 hours a week of driving, whatever it it is i can make so much more money strategizing

working having calls doing that versus like that and the number two was the stress like you talked about right just dude i'm in the back it's kind of like i mean i might be in a you know jeep cherokee in the back of an uber whatever it is but i'm working i'm reading i'm watching youtube videos i'm just getting in the in the mode especially when i'm in the morning on my way to the podcast and we interview some pretty significant people on the pbd podcast and zero stress i come in you know because most people show up you're running late there's traffic there's road rage you see these videos of people getting out of their car getting in fights it's crazy and then number three is just save that

money it's just the cost of a new car the cost of a used car is the highest that it's crazy. And then number three is just save that money. It's just the cost of a new car. The cost of a used car is the highest that it's ever been on record. It's basically skyrocketed since COVID. So when you add it all up, like how much time, how much like mental health, how much money I've saved, it's, it's literally one of the reasons that I've become a millionaire because I just, all that money you go pump into a car you can save that money save that time save that effort and invest it and then you're dealing with compound interest and the rest is history so you don't need a car out there guys what an interesting take because there's a lot of young kids promoting supercars these days of course fancy cars yeah getting one of my good

buddies owns prestige auto he has like the nicest cars in all of miami lambos maseratis all that so it's so funny because we'll go to like dinner i see him at events and i'm like you're the car guy yeah and i'm definitely not the car guy but you know you you have to be known for something so i'm loudly and proudly not the car guy i'm the uber guy by the way lyft and uber if you see this gladly sponsor me um but to each their own, dude. Yeah. You guys have gone a lot heavy into politics this year. It's that season, man. It's that season.

Have you always been into politics or are you kind of just along for the ride? You know, it's funny because when I joined Valuetainment with Patrick Bet-David, and I knew Pat since 2012 from the finance industry. Kick off an exciting football season with BetMGM, an official sportsbook partner of the National Football League. Yard after yard, down after down, the sportsbook, born in Vegas, gives you the chance to take action to the end zone and celebrate every highlight reel play.

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yeah me too we just ended up striking a conversation and kind of hit it off and i didn't end up joining value team until 2020 so there was eight years of just you know business talking keeping in touch and he's actually the guy in like 2016 because i saw what he was doing in value team and i was like oh i want to do content what's going on here and my whole message at that point was helping millennials uh save that money get smart with their money when i was 25 i was my broker's friend when i was 35 i was a millionaire i was like what did i do in that 10 years right so he kind of was like dude just start filming exactly what you do sean and 2020 i joined value tainment i mean it's obviously it was uh biden trump political season covid was so amplified

when we started doing political content on the value tainment channel people are like yo what is this pat you're the entrepreneur guy you're the capitalist guy what are you what are you doing so he's like all right we have to pivot shift reinvent and we started the pbd podcast channel and then that was just essentially half politics half business half current events yeah and then value attainment is really known for entrepreneurship capitalism the vault event we do like this year we have the rock tom brady last year but we really got comfortable talking politics so for me i've always been aware of politics i like some of my friends are super involved especially in miami and the democratic party super destiny right i mean i mean i met

destiny doing content i meant like guys i grew up with in high school they they've become like good buddy is was a uh finance chair for hillary clinton in 2016 another buddy of mine is like literally the right hand man to bill clinton wow but i'm also like literally like and then i'm also real tight with the mayor of miami who's a republican you're like yeah so i've been in this world but it wasn't my thing but then pbd because of who he is and you know um the eyeballs in and we we really got into it. And in 2016, I basically started, like a lot of Americans, really, really started paying attention to politics. Clinton, Trump, and then 2020, it just got amplified.

So here's what I tell people about politics, especially when you're online doing shows. Go all in or just stay the hell away from it. Like if you're just kind of like well here's what i'm thinking donald trump canceled so whatever it is i love her kamala whatever it is so if that's not your brand there's some people like yo i don't even touch politics straight up it's like cool all good but if you're gonna get in own it if not stay away that's so we've owned it we talk about it we've interviewed people on the right people

on the left everyone vivek ron desantis rfk you name it uh still working on trump we're gonna get him one of these days i tell you um but yeah i enjoy it i enjoy it i have no interest in running for any position have these interviews shifted your stance on where you stand for sure really for sure like where were you before and where you know it's funny people ask me that all the time because um i'm a very moderate guy just in general like i'm not like all the way this way or no way this way i'm just i'm a moderate synergist in general like if there's beef between friends i'm that guy that's like come on guys like let's figure this thing out dude you kind of fucked up here, I'm that guy that's like, come on, guys. Let's figure this thing out. Dude, you kind of fucked up here, bro.

You really should have. That's me in general. So I've always been a moderate. But historically, traditionally, I've been sort of a conservative Democrat. So my dad was a big JFK guy. He had a poster of JFK and MLK in the house. And then the Clintons, like I've said, the relationship with the Clintons. And that's kind of where I grew up and Miami is also a very purple place it's not very

political there's Cubans they came they escaped communism refugees but it's also capitalism like it's not as contentious as if you go to California I mean it's like super hardcore even you know New York Brooklyn super hardcore but Miami is very homogenous. I thought Miami was red, but that's interesting. But things have shifted. Great point, Sean. So what has basically transpired over the last five, ten years, especially since Biden came into the office and identity politics formed and even previously Trump.

Trump, you're either with Trump or against Trump. There was no middle ground. There's no like, hey, how if you know, Trump, you're either with Trump or against Trump. There was no middle ground. There's no like, Hey, how do you feel about Trump? It's not like, you know, go either way on him.

He's fine. It's like, yo, I love that guy. I hate that guy. So for sure, being around Pat, for sure,

being around these like-minded individuals, I basically, I don't think I, my, I don't think my political ideology has changed. I think the Democrats have legitimately gotten so far left with the woke and the LGBT and the trans that there's just common people with common sense being like,

yeah, I voted for Obama. I didn't really like Trump. I didn't like the mean tweets. The policies were cool, but they've had four years of Biden, and obviously people have been basically sensing that he hasn't been mentally capable for a while. And then it's turned out to be true. I think there's just a lot of people with common sense being like, yeah, I kind of was on middle left or whatever, but nah, not anymore.

So in my opinion, there's going to be a lot of people who did not vote for Trump in 2016, and maybe even the never trumpers hated trump in 2016 and didn't vote for trump in 2020 that are actually going to get on the trump train in 2024 and i'm one of those people wow yeah so you're publicly backing trump i it's not so much i love trump he can do no wrong he could do a lot of wrong yeah but the good outweighs the bad especially if you if you focus squarely on policy. So one of the things I realized with Pat that I've had to do is, dude, be a little bit more rational, not as emotional. Most people vote on personality, gut feeling, who they like, and maybe one issue, a pocketbook issue, maybe it's abortion, maybe it's the border, whatever it is. But if you look at policy by policy in my opinion resume to

resume trump versus kamala it's not even close so but it all depends on what you're into you know different strokes for different folks but one of the things i always say is like if your number one issue is the economy right sean i mean you got to vote trump yeah if your number one issue is abortion probably going to vote kamala if your number two issue is the border and immigration probably gonna vote trump turns out walls aren't racist we kind of need one you know if it's hey let everybody in go for it probably vote for kamala so it really depends on what matters to you would you interview kamala i'd interview anybody really anybody i've had people uh on my show that people told me do do not have this person on.

As an example, I had the white supremacist, neo-Nazi supporting guy, Nick Fuentes. Oh, yeah. And I'm Jewish. So imagine that. So I had people be like, don't bring him on. You're going to give him a platform. And I'm the type of person that's like,

so if I disagree with someone, even vehemently, I just refuse to speak with them, how does that help? So even Tucker Carlson went to fly out to Russia and interview Putin. In my opinion, it was sort of a softball interview, but then again, you're in Moscow in the Kremlin, looking out the window. He wanted to get out of there.

Putin and his rivals somehow end up flying out windows. I don't know how that happens with poison. But I've interviewed Alex Jones. I've interviewed people hardcore on the left, Marxists. I've interviewed conservatives. And what I've realized is that conversation, dialogue, there's usually a lot more that you can learn and you have in common with somebody

because nobody is 100% right and nobody is 0% right. dialogue there's usually a lot more that you can learn and you have in common with somebody because nobody is a hundred percent right and nobody is zero percent right there's something going on there right so even when i had someone like nick fuentes i asked him point blank like are you a white supremacist no are you a racist no do you hate jews no how do you feel about hitler good or bad he's like well i don't i, all right. Well, Hitler's good apparently. So, but being challenged and pretzeling your brain or your heart or your stomach, I actually think is a good thing for you because it enables you to be like, damn, I didn't, man, I didn't think of that.

This guy's got a point. He's definitely wrong on that because it'll codify your own opinions and your own views. And it'll make stronger what you believe in, but it'll also make you change opinions that maybe you weren't so hardcore on. So trying to be a little bit more rational, a little bit more stoic,

a little bit more understanding versus guttural and emotional and being, I hate you. Like, no. Right. Okay, cool. So. I think it's important. Were you and Nick able to reach you. Like, no. Right. Okay, cool. I think it's important.

Were you and Nick able to reach some common ground? Yeah. Really? There was a few things that, look, what gets eyeballs? Extremism. You know, whether you're in Congress, who gets the eyeballs? It's the AOCs of the world. It's the Marjorie Taylor Greene's of the world

because they're playing to a base, you know, to be politically, you know, they say historically the Senate is sort of the cooling off where the house is the heating up because in the house is 435 Congress people and the Senate, there's only a hundred and the Senate, the house, um, because they have districts, you know, districts are smaller than States. So pick Florida, for example, you know districts are smaller than states so pick florida for example you know you might have a hardcore liberal district in certain parts of florida in miami so you just play to your base you might have a hardcore cuban i hate communists like so you're going to play to your republican base let's say like that cool so districts will do that representatives will do that senators have states do that. Senators have states.

So they need to be a little bit more diplomatic, a little bit more pragmatic. So you asked the question about finding common ground. If you're playing to extremes, you don't really have to find common ground. You're playing to your base. If you have a sort of a pragmatic view of whether it's your social content, whether it's your political content, whether it's your business, and you're like, look, I'm trying to go for the masses. I'm trying not to get this niche.

Although the riches are in the niches, I get that. There's always common ground to be found unless someone's an absolute fundamentalist extremist. Right. So, I mean, not to get too geopolitically driven, but if you see what's going on in the Middle East, good luck negotiating with terrorists. They are so far gone in their belief that you're not going to negotiate with these people. That's literally the premise, that they are fundamentalists.

Right. Whether it's Islamists, whether it's hardcore Christians, whether it's hardcore Jews, you're not changing these people's minds. So as long as you're able to be swayed and you're not clinging to a certain belief and I'm right and you're wrong, there's always the ability to find common ground.

One of the things I always say is that in business, do you know what the Spanish word for business is? No. Negocios. So it's all a negotiation. So know ronald reagan we just interviewed dennis quaid the famous actor that's been in a bunch of movies he's now playing reagan in a new movie and um there's a famous quote by reagan i hope i don't butcher it it's basically like someone you agree with 80 of the time is an ally not your enemy find that you know so the

republicans and democrats you might have to give a little bit that 20 difference doesn't make you an enemy you're an 80 ally so that's kind of even on someone like nick fuentes maybe there's i agree with him 20 cool you know america first great i don't have a problem with that but then there might be 80 let's say i disagree with but at least that 20 all right let's say I disagree with, but at least that 20%, all right, let's figure this thing out. So even to use that Reagan example, Dennis Quaid, we just had, he portrays Reagan. He has to sit down with Gorbachev

and figure out how to basically denuclearize the world and end the Cold War. And fundamental disagreements, but at the end of the day, he's like, so you love your family? Yeah, yeah, of your kids you love your country all right cool so at least we got that and what's interesting the probably the the scene that i remember this movie reagan they're the hardcore they're you know the russians soviets and the americans they're in this um conference room they're arguing you did this you did this and ronald

reagan goes all right let me let me teach you something that we did in hollywood right and he walks to the door like imagine if i got up right now walk to the door opens the door holds it open for a second there's like a kgb agent like with a a gun standing outside the room so nobody can get in. Closes the door and goes, take two. And everyone goes, oh, shit. And he walks back in. He extends his hand to Gorbachev. He goes, I'm Ronald Reagan. Nice to meet you.

And Gorbachev stands up and he goes, Mikhail Gorbachev, nice to meet you. And the whole thing started over again. And it basically set the tone for everyone in the room and long story short it literally helped save the world from nuclear armageddon and helped america win the cold war dang so and it all started with take two so you know whether you're a russian uh trying to end the world or whether you're american trying to save the world there's always a take two right yeah there's always something that comes from these conversations that's why i'm actually having nick on i don't think i could post it on youtube did you post

that one on you know it's uh we we didn't put him on the thumbnail oh god we said like adam sazik interview special guest what have you got it actually had michael sartain on that one as well oh i like i don't know if you know michael a beast. Yeah. We had this guy, Nima. We had a Catalina Loft on that one as well. But yeah, you know. It's a shame, dude. I just had Sneeko on and it went absolutely bananas, but I got a strike on TikTok for that one.

Why did it go bananas? So he's the one who kind of exposed that whole Mr. Beast thing. Yeah. And that's just blowing up now. That one guy, I forget his name. That's a transgender. Chris something. Yeah.

Yeah. And now with the Olympic transgender stuff, it's just everything's blown up. What'd forget his name that's a chris something yeah yeah and now with the olympic transgender stuff it's just everything what would you learn from that sneaker interview have you had him on yet i have okay um dude he's actually smart yeah i'm not gonna lie yeah i went in that with some preconceived notions because it's easy to form opinions on people if you just see their shit online but dude he struck me as a pretty intelligent kid i'll tell you something about sneaker because i've him on. And to say that it didn't go well would be an understatement. Oh, it went terrible? But it didn't go terrible.

At least I thought it didn't go terrible. I think he came in very reserved. And by the way, this was on the heels of PBD and I flying out to Madrid to interview Andrew Tate. It was the first tate interview that we did on the pbd podcast because we've interviewed him twice we um grateful we had the opportunity to land the first two big interviews after he got canceled and after he got out of jail um yeah those were massive yeah um so sneeko was there when you went no no no he we came back and i invited sneeko on because he's been you

know in the red pill world we've done stuff with fresh and fit we've done stuff with all this kind of stuff so i came on and i basically i just want to have a conversation with the guy now how old are you 27 you're 22 you're young as hell sneaker's probably younger than you how old is he is yeah he's young 20s i think okay so maybe he's 25 so this was maybe a year or two ago. The kid's 23. And what happens is, look, he's sharp. He's smart. He's cunning. He's calculated.

He knows what he's doing. He's been in front of a camera since he's 14. Whatever the number is, 16, whatever the hell it is. But also when you're young, you're going to have some growth. You're not going to be the same person you are when you're 16,

when you're 18, when you're 23, when you're 25, when you're 30, when you're 35. When I speak to Sean Kelly, when he's 30, when he's 35, you're going to be the same person you are when you're 16 and you're 18 and you're 23 and you're 25 when you're 30, when you're 35. Like when I speak to Sean Kelly, when he's 30, when he's 35, you're going to be a different guy. You're going to be married. You're going to have kids.

Like things are going to change. Perspective is going to change. It's inevitable. You want to change. You want to grow. You want to reinvent yourself. So we got into this conversation. I, you know, I said some things and I go, look, can't wait to speak to you in five, 10 years.

And your viewpoints are going to change respect to how you think now but can't wait to see you in the future i don't know if he was offended what have you and um i ended up talking to pbd about it because the comments were like adam's a fucking dick this or whatever it was and if you're gonna get into the content game just get ready for some mean comments. I've seen some mean ones about you. I actually wondered if you read them or not. It's funny. I'll tell you about that in a sec. But I tend not to read them, but occasionally I'll do.

Now I'm leaning into it a little bit more, and I'll put them on my show and read them out loud, like how Jimmy Fallon, Jimmy Gildo does the mean tweets. But I ended up talking to Pat. He goes, look, man, what I saw in that interview and kind of what i'm seeing is you're not being yourself like you don't someone like one of the one of the comments was like who is this like budget pierce morgan i was like all right oh shit um but i realized i was trying to stir up controversy just all but genuinely i talked about this i'm a synergist like i'm not trying to be like i'm not trying to come on sean's podcast but you're a piece of shit sean like i'm

just like what up dude how you doing like and he said listen you know and it's famously in the movie roadhouse with um patrick swayze rest in peace that they're doing a new one with jake gyllenhaal and conor mcgregor and he goes just be nice you know be nice until you don't have to be nice and i changed my perspective i remember i called up sneeko and i was like look man just i want to apologize i should have been nicer and he's like yeah man it's cool whatever it wasn't even that bad is my point i just wasn't nice and genuinely i try to be nice and and i realized that leaving even on my role on pb, it's sort of like the dissenter. Like, I don't know about that, guys.

And when the cameras are rolling, you think you've got to be something. But just if you're yourself and you're authentic and you show, hey, man, I fucked up on this thing, whatever. And I remember speaking with Andrew Schultz. He was on the podcast. And I kind of just did this apology thing or whatever. He's like, dude, you're good. You're better for it now, that kind of just did this like apology thing or whatever it's like dude you're good you're better for it now all kind of thing so what i've realized about life is that um

when life knocks you down and you do something stupid you f up you you're gonna there's 24 48 hours to everyone out there or you're going to feel like shit. Genuinely. Okay, cool. I fucked up big time, whether it's doing content, whether it's in business, whether it's in a relationship, I fucked up.

But that's how you grow. Those are the moments where you're like, okay, let me learn from that. The thing that whether it's Nico, whether it's Tate, whether it's this girl, whatever, it's like, all right, this is what I did wrong.

Do I want to do that again? No. Should I have done it better? Yes. The next time that I do this, what will I do different? I will do this. And that's how you just improve. So one of the things we say at Value Team that I've learned from Pat, and I've learned so much from this guy is out work out improve out strategize outlast you know life's a marathon you're gonna be most people out there you're 20 you're gonna be 30 you're 30 you're gonna be 40 you're 40 you're gonna be 50 mostly life life expectancy is longer than ever these days this is how i made my money in the longevity markets and life insurance and investments. And I know how long people live. You know how people say, like, life is short, man. You got to do it. I go, no.

Life is long, but life is precious. If you screw it up, it could definitely be short. If bad things happen, you know, shit happens, risk assessment, life could be short. But if you take care of yourself, you take care of your body, your mind, your spirit, your emotions, you could live to 100. My grandma's 93. Damn. But everyone's grandma's 93.

It's not like it's my grandma. Life expectancy has changed so much that what I've realized is the marathon is way bigger than the sprint. If you're the sprint guy and you want to just get views immediately, bro, like, I'm just going to go out there. Like, I interviewed this guy, Zirka. You know who this guy is?

I know. I think he's a hilarious guy, talented guy, smart guy. He's a sprinter. He, in my opinion, humbly is not playing the long game unless he wants to reinvent himself. So he's going out there he's saying the shocking things he's saying the n-word on camera he's calling girls this that the other he's fighting in public and it's like all right let me know how that works out for you in the

long term because whether it's athletes whether it's only fans girls whether it's models whether it's people that own clubs in miami it's like anyone can be hot for a year or two or five or 10. Can you be hot for 50 years? Can you play the long game? So I respect people that aren't necessarily in it for the immediate quick gratification, in for the quick buck, in for a quick view. And if you're playing the long game, you're going to you're gonna take some bumps and bruises but if you have a vision if you have a long-term vision and you're playing the long game in my opinion good things are gonna happen i love that and and that these days the internet forgets quick too because there's this kid named

steiny from milk boys of course and everyone hated we just had the milk boys on the pat's house oh yeah yeah so everyone hated him at first if you boys on the pat's house oh yeah yeah so everyone hated him at first if you go on all the old podcasts all the comments were shitting really and now he's like almost everyone's favorite character why he just grew he sucked i mean he'll probably admit this he sucked that podcast at first okay like it's not a natural thing to be good at podcasting yeah my first 100 episodes were cringe if i look back really and he just sucked and now he's gotten better well shout out to you steiny because he knows pbd and he knows what's going on and um so sometimes your best ability is your availability so i don't know his story you know i think he's a shorter guy

funny quirky guy i think he's jewish like i don't know steiny is probably short for steinberg i don't know um who knows but your best ability is your availability, meaning he was probably friends with Kyle and these guys. He was just around doing his thing. He was Steve's assistant. Bingo. And Bob Menner's assistant before that. So he worked his way up.

Availability. Hey, I'm available. That's kind of how I started with Pat. I was like, yo, bro, what's up? What do you want to do? I'm available. Like I moved to Dallas during COVID. He's like, I don't even know what i'm gonna pay you i'm like i don't need money i got money i'm good i'm around what's up moved out of miami i'm just i'm available

he's like i really need help with like sponsorship i'm like i got you i i want to start this podcast we haven't had the pbd podcast let's do it hey i need help with uh building out our sales division got you done sales for 15 years i was just available and your best ability is your availability so for this guy steinie uh he probably was just available they're like hey you know a spot opens up and we're gonna put you on the podcast and he probably just wasn't ready yeah and that he probably had some nights where he felt like shit and he looked in the mirror and my assumption is that he's a resilient guy 100 and that he is like you know you could quit you can listen to the comments you can listen to the haters or you can put on your you know

your hater shades you know steiny is probably like all right y'all like fuck you too and just and reinvent himself and outwork out improve out strategize outlast and look in the guy now now you're saying he went from being hated on to beloved beloved they just gave him his own show his own dating show look at that 16 of the hottest girls you know what i'll tell you is this what i've learned um doing content being relevant is the number one thing you can be is loved and beloved or even liked the number two thing you can be is hated and fuck that guy screw that guy the third thing on the list is irrelevant hey what do you think of steiny never heard of him hey what do you think

of sean kelly no clue hey you know adam sosnick never heard of that guy what do you think of sean kelly no clue hey you know adam sosnick never heard of that guy what do you think of sean kelly love that guy what do you think of adam sosnick hate that guy jake paul jake paul i was thinking that guy dude how many people saw jake paul and were like fuck that guy almost everyone okay but he had a loyal audience let's say there was you know 10 million people that were seeing him let's say there was 1 million that loved him and there were 9 million that hated him here's what happens he knocks out nate robinson all right cool you know maybe that you know now he's got 2 million people that love him and instead of 8 million or 9 million it's goes down a little bit yeah and he starts knocking people out boom boom boom boom and all of a sudden he's reinvents himself he becomes that dude and now maybe it's 50-50 I don't know because when you're

winning people are gonna be like you know what I'm not gonna lie didn't like that Jake Paul guy I was rude for me get knocked out but look at him now so now maybe of those 10 million people I'm using an arbitrary number there's 5 million that hate him yeah but there arbitrary number there's five million that hate him yeah but there's now there's five million that love him or respect him the respect is there but at the beginning everyone knew his name and it didn't matter whether you liked him or hated him you knew who he was and look at him now so the the haters um they've had to put their foot in their mouth a little bit and the guys that were ride or die with him were like, I told you, bro.

What's up? There's nothing better than that. If you're an early adopter, whether it's Jake Paul, whether it's Apple, I told you. What's up? Trump, like all the Trump. I told you, bro, 2016. And that's what's going to happen. So if you're resilient, there's great things that'll happen

to you i've um i'm a big um alliteration guy like um and i like to break things down into threes like hey what are the you know three things you got to do hey man you know beginning middle end that's how story works and what i've realized adam's like all right like i had to because i was a money guy before and then i got into finance and this and that nightlife and if they're like all right adam you're like give me something good bro like what do you what's your secret to success the whole thing it's like oh shit whatever and i was like all right i like the threes i like this. Here's what I've come up with. I call it the three R's, right? Everything in life, number one is relationships. Everything. Relationships, friendships, partnerships, all them ships are formulated by relationships. And no matter what you do whether it's family whether it's

friends whether it's business partners whether it's associates whether it's content creators whether it's your girl your boyfriend whatever it is relationships are the foundation of everything number two is your reputation everyone has a reputation yeah whether it's a good reputation or a bad reputation that's who you are and there's two reputations there's how people perceive you and how you perceive yourself now are those two aligned are they different like if everyone's like yo i fucking i hate that guy and you're like i'm the man it's like you're you're taking this completely out of context but if people are like you don't actually like that guy and he's like well i'm not that cool all of a sudden you have a

different perception of your reputation so reputation matters like if you do something in high school and in college you screw someone over big time dude 20 years later someone's like hey did you did you know that guy rick whatever it's like i got scumbag it's like 20 years ago he sold somebody oregano rather than marijuana i don't know um i'm looking for you rick um that reputation is going to proceed you can't you can't ruin your reputation you can reinvent yourself like we talked about and improve it's really hard to to um get your reputation back once you've ruined it now we are forgiving like you talked about the internet is forgiving but the internet is also forever but reputation

matters and the last thing the last r is is revenue money show me somebody that's worth a damn that has hasn't had success that hasn't made money that hasn't had success, that hasn't made money, that hasn't delivered value. Show me someone. Like, people are like, well, Gandhi. It's like, well, then go be Gandhi, bro. Mother Teresa. It's like, okay.

But anyone who's worth a damn, whether it's Elon Musk, whether it's Donald Trump, whether it's Patrick Bette David, whether it's Sean Kelly, whether it's Adam Sosnick, has made money and has helped people. What's the famous quote from Elon Musk?

You will be paid in proportion to- To the difficulty of the problem. To how many problems you solve, how many people you help. And so whether it's relationships, whether it's your reputation, at the end of the day, follow the money. You got to make some revenue happen to make your name in this world. So that's what i've realized man dude that's a great ending right there where can people find out what you're up to next man reputation.com no um i'm on valuetainment i'm on the pbd podcast with patrick bett david you can

see me on all socials at sauce talks money um and then my show on youtube is the sauce cast on valuetainment. But pretty much until he fires me, don't fire me, Pat. I'm just rolling with PBD. Happy to be the number two guy over there, whatever it is, however you want to look at it. It's important to roll, to know your number. Here's the last thing I'll say is I've realized I'm a great number two.

I'm great. I play my role. Anytime I'm the one in sports, I was the, when if I was the, I was a pretty damn good basketball player. It was all county football, basketball. If I was the best player on the team,

I had six stats, the team didn't do good. If I was the second best player on the team, I was the point guard or whatever, the team i had six stats the team didn't do good if i was the second best player on the team i was the point guard whatever the team did great um with with chris humphries what have you when i walked it was like i'm not barry and kim i'll be a groomsman um when i was running the nightlife stuff here when i tried to do my own thing as the number one didn't work out as much when i was the number two to the big nightlife guy killed it and now And now with PBD, happy to be his number two. He's a lead dog.

He's a leader. He's a number one. And I'm just going to play my role. And that's what you'll find me. I love that. No, that's solid advice. A lot of people won't put their ego to the side, you know? Yeah.

And look, number two is, you know, it's funny. Number two, Steve Ballmer. You know who that is? Heard of him. Steve Ballmer owns the LA Clippers. Steve Ballmer didn't, he wasn't the founder, CEO of Microsoft. He was Bill Gates, number two. But now he just surpassed Bill Gates in wealth.

Wow. He's the top 10 wealthiest guy in the world because he never sold his Microsoft stock. So here's a guy 10 wealthiest guy in the world because he never sold his microsoft stock so here's a guy that he wasn't the founder he wasn't the guy but he was there and he built this company up and he was the number two look at him now so not everyone has to be the ceo the founder the number one it's like find a company find something you believe in find something you're good at your skill set and just find the the dude yep find that person but i'm with you so i found all my success in finance in nightlife in business and in uh social being the number two guy wherever i've

gone so number two number two guys it's all good i love it man don't be number one you know you're first your last thank you bro respect to you guys peace