Digital Social Hour - NBA Trainer Reveals LeBron's Secret Weapon: Mindset | David Nurse DSH #993

Episode Date: December 19, 2024

🏀 NBA Trainer Reveals LeBron's Secret Weapon: Mindset 🧠 Join Sean Kelly as he sits down with David Nurse, elite NBA trainer and mindset coach! Discover the mental edge that sets champions apart and get insider stories about basketball legends. David shares jaw-dropping tales about Kobe Bryant's incredible work ethic, LeBron James' journey to greatness, and the rise of social media's impact on player performance. 🤯 Learn about the "Hoodie Melo" origin story and how small moments can spark viral trends in the NBA world! Tune in for exclusive insights on: • The importance of mindset in professional sports 💪 • Behind-the-scenes stories of NBA superstars 🌟 • The future of international basketball talent 🌎 • Tips on achieving a winning mentality 🏆 Don't miss out on this game-changing conversation! Watch now and subscribe for more insider secrets from the world of pro sports and high-performance coaching. Hit that subscribe button and join the Digital Social Hour community! 🚀 #NBATraining #MindsetCoaching #LeBronJames #KobeBryant #DigitalSocialHour #SeanKelly #DavidNurse #BasketballInsider #nba #basketballimmersion #nbapodcast #playerdevelopment #nbafinalsprediction CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 00:37 - First Big Client 04:19 - BetterHelp Therapy 06:11 - Kobe Bryant Stories 09:21 - Worst NBA Trade Ever 10:31 - Best Underrated Trainers 12:32 - Mark Cuban's Jump Shot 14:58 - USA Basketball vs. The World 16:35 - GOAT Debate in Sports 17:05 - Greatest of All Time 19:30 - Staying Healthy Tips 22:05 - Top Lists in Sports 24:13 - Achieving Your Goals 30:10 - Future Projects 32:12 - Where to Find Bubba 32:19 - New Podcast with Daniel Nurse APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: [e-mail] GUEST: David Nurse https://www.instagram.com/davidnursenba https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-david-nurse-show/id1226281669 SPONSORS: BetterHelp: https://www.betterhelp.com/DSH LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hoodie Mello. That is where it was born. It's sweatpants tucked into his socks, and me and Jeff are like, what is this guy doing? This is goofy. Like literally, like the next week, week hoodie mellow was a thing. All right guys, we finally made it happen. Got Dave and us here today. It's been a year we've been trying to do this, right?

Yeah, we have been going back and forth on Instagram messages and just trying to schedule and it's been my fault to travel in too much. You're good, man. I'm very pumped for this. As a huge basketball fan, you've trained some of the best. Over 150 clients now, right? Yeah. It's been my fault traveling too much. You're good, man. I'm very pumped for this. As a huge basketball fan, you've trained some of the best. Over 150 clients now, right?

Yeah. It's impressive. Who was the first big client for you? You know, the first big client was an interesting one. So he was a high school player. And my friend coached in the Bay Area Archbishop Mitty. He's like, hey, I've got this stud player. He's going to be a top 10 draft pick

when he goes into the NBA. Do you want to come work him out? And I was doing basketball camps at the time. I just got done playing overseas. My overseas playing was more like a Will Ferrell semi-pro league than it was an actual, like close to the NBA. So I'm like, yeah, of course, I'm going to get into NBA training. And I go up there and I had this moment of just not feeling like I

was able to do it. It's kind of like a... Competence. Yeah, just the confidence of the imposter senior, but really man, and I walk out, I don't do it, I don't go work this guy out. My friend's like, hey we're going back there tomorrow, we're gonna film this thing, we're gonna send it out to agents and NBA teams. The player was Aaron Gordon. Oh, wow. So I was doing workouts for Aaron Gordon, he was awesome, we send send it out to agents and NBA teams. The player was Aaron Gordon. Oh, so I was doing workouts for Aaron Gordon He was awesome. We send this video out to

Agents and teams I start working out more players doing pre-draft. So the first guy you can look back on YouTube and have a lap I've got these baggy shorts on this big oversized polo. Yeah, Aaron Gordon was the first guy That's legendary what he's doing on the nuggets now is awesome. did not teach him anything you do it don't keep but yeah yeah cuz he was nice on the magic right yeah master so yours but then his transition to the role player because he was the best person on the magic and a lot of people struggle to make that transition as a role player mm-hmm yeah so I mean it's yes it's kind of transfer from there of training NBA players individually led to coaching with the Brooklyn Nets now it's kind of transferred from there of training NBA players individually led to coaching with the Brooklyn Nets.

Now, it's an interesting dynamic coaching with a team. Most people think that's the ultimate. But, I mean, it is and it is. If you're with a good culture and good great coaching staff, it is. But a lot of the players, you would think, like, they don't actually really want to work out. I like doing what I do now because the players will come to you. They seek you out instead of you trying to have to go drag them into the gym. Interesting. And it's one of the biggest difference makers man. I have this thing

I call it literally it's it's do I drag you to the gym or do you drag me is one of the first things in the first 10 minutes with a player I can tell if they have the potential to be great. So the story that I tell with that, I used to do NBA pre-draft. That's when the guys are coming out of college and they're getting ready for the pros. Did it for Wasserman agencies. So we'd have a lot of big names. But we had this guy who was kind of mid-level.

He was a freshman from Kentucky. You know, he wasn't really hyped up. But the very first workout with these players, we try to crush their soul. Like see what they're made out of, see how tenacious they are and just put them through this killer workout. Most guys want to go back to locker room or pass out on the floor. And this, this kid comes up to me afterwards. He's like, when are we going tonight?

Like he wants more. Whoa. This player, Shay, Yogis, Alexander. Wow. From that moment, I was like, this guy is special. He's going to do something great. Now he's probably one of the best players in the NBA. He almost won MVP this year. Should have. I think he got second, right? He got second, but he won the ESP for best player.

Wow. Yeah, people think he came out of nowhere, but they don't see that behind the scenes. And that's the thing. That's what's the cool thing about training NBA players. You see behind the scenes of, you know, who actually loves training. And that like Domas Sabonis in 2020, when the world shut down, he came out to L.A. All the gyms were shut down in L.A.

We found these like old little Jewish community centers and snuck in at 7 a.m. every morning. But he's not posting that on social media. Right. It's it's that type of differentiator that stands out a lot. You ever trained Kobe? No, man, I would love, but I've got some great Kobe stories. I've got some great, all right. Let me give you this one.

So first off, I'll give you two. I'll give you two to set the stage. So a buddy of mine was a head Nike marketing guy for 20 years. He's a guy who landed Kobe, landed LeBron, landed KD. He said KD, when they were landing KD, I mean he's out in Baltimore, Under Armour's pitching him hard,

they went out to Baltimore, rented this van, picked up chicken and iced tea, and went around with all his boys to all his old basketball gyms and just hooped. Was that KD's the chill Chill is just a pure hooper. team, your favorite skater, or your style, there's something every NHL fan is going to love about BetMGM. Download the app today and discover why BetMGM is your hockey home for the season. Raise your game to the next level this year with BetMGM, a sportsbook worth a selly, and an official sports betting partner of the National Hockey League.

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So he was one of the most just absolute genius human beings this guy had been around lebron said was the most difficult person so they finally got the deal done at acron at a diner but they never actually got to talk to lebron and lebron was like 17 or 18 really kind of tells you a little bit right there but so setting the stage in this this Kobe story of how just incredibly smart he is. This is a story by way of Chip Kelly, the football coach. Yeah. He was telling me this last year. And when he was out in Philly, he said Richard Hamilton,

who had a good career, and Kobe were in high school. They had this AAU tournament coming up where you could be ranked. So Richard Hamilton said, hey, Kobe, if you perform well this weekend, you're going to get ranked. And that's a huge thing for high school. And so Richard goes out and plays really well, gets like a top 15 ranking, something like that. And Kobe, 15 years old, shot every shot with his left hand that weekend.

What? With his left hand. And Rip was? With his left hand and Rip was like, Cope, what are you doing? You just blew this opportunity. And Cope said, no. Here's the difference between me and you. You wanna be the best in this class. I wanna be the best of all time.

Wow. At that age to have that kind of- A 15. Vision and self-awareness. Dude, that's legendary. So he wanted the heat so he could be motivated more. Yeah, and I think he's the greatest mindset coach that doesn't get credit for being a mindset coach.

There's, I don't even know if I'm able to say this, but I know somebody has collected all of the Kobe mindset and they're gonna put it out. It's gonna be a book. It's gonna be amazing. That's awesome. Yeah, that needs to be studied for athletes growing up. Well, that's I mean, with my athletes, I send them on

Instagram, you'll find the right ones. Yeah, I send them just a lot of those type of quotes right there. Yeah, he doesn't get credit for the mindset stuff right now. No, I feel like players these days. I don't know if it's because of social media, but it's not as prevalent. Yeah, yeah, I mean, dude, he's amazing. Yeah, amazing. There's a lot of I get it because there's a lot of social media trolls now. So these players are coming home after a bad game and T Angela also hops on Twitter and people are shitting on it. It's, it's crazy. Like one of the biggest things that

coaches struggle with in the NBA nowadays is halftime with players getting on social media. Don't you think that just sounds crazy? But every team, the players get on social media. My boy Chauncey Billups just put something out on a podcast, I think like two days ago. Said one of his players, they were 18 points down at halftime, but he caught his player posting a dunk of his in the first half that they were down. Little updates.

You can't wait 20 minutes? It's crazy. But that's also the thing of like, that's the differentiator in mindset too, if you look on social media at halftime it's either going to you know it's probably not gonna do you any good but it can do you a big detriment yeah for sure it's all how you I guess interpret it right when you were with the Nets what year was up 2015 2016 was that when Ben Simmons was there just before that so Joe Johnson Brooke Lopez Scott it that was the older team, right?

Yeah, but they did decent. I think they were the eighth seed and then yeah, we're okay We didn't make the playoffs that year They made the playoffs the year before and then that was kind of like where the big Garnet Paul Pierce like we're at a worst trades in NBA history. Oh, you think that was one of the worst I would say it's up there is one of the words just based on what because you know Jason Tatum and he came from that trade Oh, I didn't know that Ikes and also they gave up a pick they gave a whole lot of picks They gave up like their future of that dude. Yeah. Yeah, so that's one of the worst time So I was yeah in there to develop them in

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It's funny, man, like when you think about, you know, being with an NBA team, like, oh, it's got to be amazing. But it's, egos are so prevalent in anything, in any competition, business or sports. Even with the coaches, like I would work out some players because I was kind of, you know, I was green. I was like, you know, I just love helping guys working out. I have assistant coaches do that. What are you doing?

Don't touch that guy. That's my guy. Right. What? And then the trainer would literally want to have an impact and hold players out. So he felt like he had a lot of ego, right? Ton of ego. Yeah.

And you were a shooting coach? Shooting coach, yeah. Got it. I've seen lethal shooter videos. I just saw his recent one where people always ask him, how much would you average in the NBA? Yeah. And he actually only said like six points I think. Yeah I respect his

honesty of that. I mean I would have to say who he can he play defense? I mean there's two ends of the game. Right. But yeah if you spot it up in the corner he might you might be able to. Yeah. I think he's done a really good job relationally watching those guys like Brickley and and then Lico Shooter they're just really good relational people. I'm sure they're good trainers. Obviously. I'm not saying I think they're they've done a great job building the business I think some of the best though are the ones you don't see like there's many guys that I know are just Phenomenal I see like chip England doesn't have a soul. I never hear us. He's a guy who built Kawai Tony Parker. Well, he was a secret for him. The Spurs, he's now with the Thunder,

probably the best shooting coach there is. Wow, and now the Thunder are killing it. So, there's something there. Holy crap. Yeah, I see Chris Brickley everywhere. That guy's kinda revolutionized his face, right? Yeah, yeah. Was he the first social media trainer?

I think so. I think he's the first big one, right? I remember doing a workout in Beverly Hills, Beverly Hills High School, and I was working on Jeff Withy. He was in the NBA, a big guy, and he comes in with Carmelo Anthony and Mello's wearing this hoodie. Hoodie Mello. That is where it was born. It's sweatpants tucked into his socks, and me and Jeff are like, what is this guy doing? This is goofy.

Like literally, like the next week, hoodie mellow was a thing. He didn't want to be rackknots, right? That's why he did it. Yeah, yeah. That was funny. That was a follow-me. Yeah, and I think that's kind of one of the things

that sparked Chris, but he's just, you know, he's got his spot in New York, and he's with your good. The main thing I see with trainers is, if you can garner a player's trust, you probably can trade them. It's all about trust do they really like do they trust you with their livelihood? Yeah that's important. How's Mark Cuban's jump shot? I worked with him on court I wasn't even on court yeah before the Dallas Mavericks game unknowing that it was him. Oh yes. Yes so

Stark Tank wasn't big at the time. Oh. And I didn't know Mark Cuban he was kind of just Stark Tank was coming out he gave me his business card afterwards obviously I'd looked at it and then like oh my gosh this is Mark and he owns the Mavericks and I emailed him the day after just thanking him and he got back to me like two minutes. Wow. So it's like I tell that story and talks a lot of the power of serving people without expecting anything in return. Like I was just helping this guy with a jump shot

because he wanted to work on his jump shot. Right. And then it's early, it comes back to like, hey, he's a friend, I can, I'll send him business ideas. He's never said yes to one yet, but. He said no to me too. I'm sent him at least one, maybe two. But he has, I've heard invested in like cold email outreach. Oh, I think he probably will.

I mean, he takes them seriously. Yeah. I mean, he used to send me back one responses, now he's got some. Well, he just got $4 billion richer, so I think his time's a little more valuable these days. I was surprised when he sold. Yeah, those two.

Yeah, I thought, cause he's known for like being that guy at the Mavericks Yeah, but I think he'll probably still be that guy right? Yeah, I'll probably still have a hand in her is with them They made a good romance here Interesting I thought they'd take it a little bit longer. I just thought their their toughness was just next level Yeah, I mean, they must have just ran out of steam. I think they did. I really like their centers how they played with energy About a little spotlight to the center, because the centers have been kind of.

It goes like that, like the Andre Jordan, and vertical spacing is what they call it. So they know that lob can come, it sucks in the side, then they have shooters. They kind of went away for a while. But now they're kind of bringing up Dallas back. Yeah, yeah. Now the centers have to shoot threes.

Have to, which is crazy. At least have to be a threat. Yeah. Let me think about Holdford. Like when he can't, that dude couldn't shoot a lick. Bam out of bio, I saw him in his pre-JF workouts, like that dude couldn't shoot at all. Now he can shoot, oh my gosh.

Oh, the daddies are light up. The development, like, it's crazy. And even LeBron shooting threes now. Yep. Well, he's getting older older so we kind of asked it Yeah, but uh, they just did a boat on the best player on the USA team yesterday and he got five boats You got the most votes you got the both of the best player so far in the preseason games I guess so I mean he's kind of brown through them the liar, right? He's won two games single-times

Yeah much last minute and what do you think about that? What do you think about USA versus the world the developments like the vision of the future? That's scary everyone's catching up. I don't know if the wind is here dude. They had a couple close games already. It's not that given. Yeah. Well do what do you think about like I mean you see the the development in France uh let me what's coming in Africa? Yeah. Like you think that's uh I think it's a threat dude I mean we what's coming in Africa. Yeah. I just think that's a... I think it's a threat, dude. I mean, we have the most talent, obviously, but these countries just, like, the way they play with the synergy,

because they've been playing together their whole lives, it's like, kind of competing with it. Yeah, and I think so too. A good friend of mine, BJ Armstrong, was a polygaurd with Jordan on that team. He's been over there. He's kind of a visionary thinker, and he's like, dude, you would not believe this this but there's guys walking around that look like Yannis and they're starting to get into development programs

Like they're going up to Paris. That's why they've had the last two number one draft picks like he's there's It's gonna be more and more Yannis is like that. Wow Crazy, I get crazy videos. I'm on my Instagram It's kind of random but these guys in Africa are like pogo sticks, the way they jump. I'm talking like a foot. Dude, I did a camp down there a long time ago, like 12 years ago, I did some camps in Kenya and Uganda.

And I kid you not, they came down from all over, no shoes on, like seven foot tall. I have no idea how old they were, and they were just flying. It's wild. It's wild. That's nuts. It's scary for any short, unathletic white guys. You got to probably be 6'6 now to make the league forward and that's for any position. Well hey speaking on LeBron, who is the greatest of all time? I think this is one of those fun debates you can go, you know, both sides can go for days. I think LeBron still has a

chance to get that title. What do you think puts him over the top? One or two more chips and if he can win this gold medal and be the best player on the team. Yeah. Okay, one or two more. What do you think? Yeah, I think there's a camp that's never gonna let him have it, right? Right. I mean just for, I think it's an interesting thing and I've got a little, I think it's an interesting thing, and I've got a little different take on it, in terms of, like Jordan came at a time when the NBA needed somebody to progress it forward,

when it was really like nothing and then it became hot. I think Nike played a big role in that. I mean, you can create a character, you can create a brand. Obviously he's phenomenal. I would probably put him as the greatest, you know, yeah, greatest change maker of all time in a sport. But I think pound for pound, skill set, and also the impact that he's had on the league. I think Steph Curry needs to be

in the conversation. Think about this. The game wasn't shooting threes like they are today analytically. It was still throw the ball into the big man and well, Steph changed that. And Steph, I mean, he literally took a team that was, you know, terrible, turned them into a dynasty. They were bought, I think, when he was a rookie or in first year by Joe Laco for like 450 million. Wow. They thought it was a crazy buy.

They're valued at $7 billion. Crap, so they 15X or 17X? I don't think there's a player that has done what Steph has done to transform an entire sport. Which I don't think gets talked about as the greatest of all time. And skillset wise, tell me a better best shooter ever. I mean, is anybody better like ball handling

from the dribble to a shot, like skill set wise, he's gotta be right up there as the best of all time. Yeah, I never hear him in the debate. I'm not sure why. That's a valid point though, what he's done. I think if he can get one or two more, he could probably be, you know, in that conversation way more.

Like he's at four now, right? I think so, yeah. And LeBron's at four. So yeah, he should be in it more. That is surprising. Let's see how he does in this Olympic run, and let's see how he does without clay too It's good port because clay was there a whole pot. That's a good part. What do you think of clay leads him? No, I mean I guess he has to do it for a fresh start is the media kind of just got way down on it I mean he's coming back from multiple injuries. That's true worst, apparently. True dining burger house.

Yeah. I mean, I think he still would have been a great asset, but maybe not to the capacity he was in his crime. Right. I don't think many people are still in their prime after whatever, 14 years in the league, you know? He didn't seem to want to embrace that bench role, that six-man role.

Yeah. Probably needs a fresh start. Yeah, we'll see. Where'd he go to? Dallas. Oh. Which makes it interesting, right? Whoa, there's a lot of ball-dominant players on that team. Yeah, we'll see. Where'd he go to? Dallas. Oh. Which makes it interesting, right? Whoa, there's a lot of ball dominant players on that team.

Yeah. Kyrie and Luca. Flores Spacer, he doesn't need the ball. Right, yeah, he's a catch and you guy anyways. Okay, so they might make a run again this year. I would assume so. Damn. I would assume, I'm putting money on my uncle's sixers.

If them beat, stay healthy. I think, I mean, they made some good off season moves. If them beat can stay healthy. Who'd they pick up Paul George And they got Caleb Martin who's a tough tough-nosed defender from Miami Obviously, they got Tyrese Maxey signed again. They got a couple other role games. They got big three Yeah, they can they can beat the Celtics without squadding if Paul George stays healthy all joy I mean it's all comes out of the hell, but there's a lot of things in the end. Yeah, are you fools?

Yeah, you wonder how many shift ships were won because the team stayed healthy, right? Yeah. Yeah, that's funny you say that I was with my uncle when they won the championship in 2019 with the Raptors of the Warriors and They were coming back going say was coming back and then clay right blew it out same with LeBron on the What was it on me? Was it the Cubs when Carvey went out? Oh yeah, yeah. I feel like they were one that year with them. Probably right.

You know, because the Warriors were so young that year. So yeah, staying healthy is super important. And that's why we're at Nextup Labs right here. Good little plug for them. I love it down here though. Is that good? Get your optimization, oh dude they're the best. Dude I spent like a two hour thing before I filmed yesterday, down here though. Is that good? Get your optimization? Oh dude, they're the best. Dude, I spent like a two hour thing

before I filmed yesterday. I felt amazing. Oh, getting that red light charger. Red light, IV, oxygen, cryo, I lasted the whole time this time. It's a whole interesting thing, right? Like I feel like a new hot thing is how can you live healthy till like 150.

Right. I don't know, I don't know. If you can push over 120. That's close to the world record I think. I think it's close to the world record. And there's something in the Bible where it says man will live to like 120. Right. So I mean is that playing God? I'm trying to be able to crack that?

Well there are like these genetic things where you're not supposed to technically live past 120. The way we're programmed because there's so many toxins we're not even hitting 100 anymore. Yeah. You know. So that's what we were talking about earlier, too Like we're here in LA or wherever you're at. You're probably getting all these toxins in you Yeah, so you basically just playing for a tie and you can't even see them these days are in the air 5g Wi-Fi

My whole life. Here's my goal and I stand by this is Move to a villa in Tuscany, Italy, all in life. That's right. That's right. Yeah. You should actually look up houses over there or villas. Yeah. They're not crazy.

I mean, they're expensive, but they're like six million for a 22 bedroom, 18 bathroom. Telling you. Oh, so if you split that with a couple of people. I'm telling you, there's some deals over there. Dude, that's not bad. You find out two, three people will split it with.

You won't even see them in a 22-better mouse. Right, exactly. Damn, shout out to Italy, man. You've been out there? Yeah, I've been a couple of times. It's amazing. Yeah, I gotta get out there. Yeah, on that list.

Amalfi Coast? That's a blue zone, right? Might as well be. Yeah, somewhere in Italy. I think it's Sardinia is the better region. Yeah, which is close to the Amalfi Coast. Yeah, I had a mob guy on his dad with the what oh three dude Michael Franzese's dad Michael Franzese is you had on? He came on yesterday. Yeah. Oh wow. Okay. Yeah speaking agent is as one of my speaking is oh, yeah Yeah, small world. Yeah, you're one of the top 50 speakers in the world right now. Yeah, I would say number one

You know, what's one of those things like if you get on a list you say that's the most. Some of these lists are losing their appeal then. Like I used to when someone said they got on Forbes from like five years ago. Wow any list like even as being an author you see the behind the scenes of it. There's so many things that are pay for play. Oh, yet you haven't. Or it's hardly anything's purity war in life, I think. There's always some initiative in the background or if you're trying to get all the list. My favorite one is when people post their picture in Times Square where it goes on the big jumbo board and they're standing there a perfect time. I'm like, wait, you just randomly knew

that they were gonna post it for you? Like, you're not fooling anybody. I've done that photo and I got the billboard for free. It's not even, oh, you did, that's amazing. Yeah, but it's not even like a big, like people think it's a huge deal. You know what I mean? To get it.

This is just like a second that goes by. You could pay a thousand bucks for that. Yeah, oh, cool picture. Yeah, no, it's definitely a flex. It's like the normal person would see that and I posted on Instagram. We got a ton of engagement, but I got it for free I mean, yeah, I just yeah, it's not that expensive. There's a lot of things like that, you know force 30 under 30 I used to really care about is that one team to see anything you can buy you can pay to get on that I know people that have done it if I'm 37. Can I still get there's a 40 under 40?

I wanted the 30 in the third. Yeah, I feel like that's the best one. Like there's 20 under 20, but who cares about that? And then 40 under 40, you're kinda, midlife crisis. Yeah. 30 under 30, like you still got potential, dude. Yeah, yeah. That's bloody money.

Anything you're trying to achieve though that you haven't yet? I think a lot of things. Love that, what's up? Man, I just kinda like trying new things, trying to conquer new areas. You know, MBA coaching and speaking and writing books. I want to, my wife's in the acting and producing space.

Now I'm not gonna say, hey, I'm gonna drop everything and try to go act. I want to do some kind of thing in a show. I've gotten some ideas and some concepts that we're working on. Now as you know, in LA, everybody and their cousin has a show they're developing. Yeah. So I say that with a grain of salt.

That's another thing, just kind of continuing to grow to as being like the go-to guy for mindset and high performance if like an athlete needs someone to go to, a corporation, a leader, like the hired gun for that. That's needed, man, because these athletes, some of them go through these mental hurdles and they never get out. It's a lot.

There's been a few major ones recently. Yeah, and they speak out about it now. And it's interesting, so I think the disconnect there is teams have psychiatrists, but athletes don't want to go to psychiatry. One, they don't know the sport. Two, they're hired by the team and if the GM says, hey, go see the psychiatrist, what's that saying?

Oh, we think you're messed up. They're gonna obviously report to who they're paid to. It's just, they're checking the box with it. I don't think, they're missing a lot that could help a lot of athletes. Yeah, so what do you think the better system would be if an alpha is struggling mentally? I think it's better if you like, a Udonis Hazel, for example, played for the Heat and

he was kind of just around the team for a long time. Hiring somebody like that, that the players will look up to and respect as being on staff and they can go to him, he knows the game, he can talk to them. Someone who has that kind of acumen with the background of the sport. Right, yeah, the mental hurdles, it's interesting because they're still athletic, they still have the ability but they're just a block, right? It's a block, but I think it's so, I mean,

it's heightened now, right? In 2012 when the social media thing kind of started going and there's now this generation that's grown up with social media, so it's such an interesting dichotomy of do these people live and die with what they hear from others from the outside world or can they actually block it out? And it's kind of like can you or can't you? And I mean social media obviously is a great tool but it's also can be just like anything this like AI or the internet or a hammer is an amazing tool to build a house. It's also the deadliest

murder weapon. How do you use these types of things? And I don't think there's been much regulation on it really, right? Like not at all that I could go, no. You could say whatever you want. You can say whatever you want, you can put whatever you want. Like parents these days, it seems more like you want to protect your kid and keep them in the house but then they keep them in the house and they go on this whole entire other universe called social media which is more dangerous than putting you out. Oh yeah I'd rather let my kids play outside. I feared for six hours. That's what we did. Yeah exactly. Yeah I didn't have fun

going off. I thought these kids had bypass at eight years old. It's dangerous man. You just don't know where it's gonna stop. It's a danger. Like there's no horizon that says this is gonna slow down. Yeah, Lebron has done great at ignoring the hate. Yeah, Lebron has and I think his son has done quite. I'm actually really impressed. Yeah, he's getting interviewed every five minutes. He seems annoyed. Yeah, I mean but he hasn't done anything that's been like you, off the rails or anything. He just takes it, cause he's getting so much. Oh my gosh.

That's the most hype I've seen in a while. Hype and hate. Yeah. Well, people are always like, why do you get in the lead? But Lebron, I mean, if you were in Lebron's position, you'd do the same thing. Absolutely. You know, it happens in business too.

It happens in everything. Everything. It's just at a heightened scale, but what's Bronnie supposed to be? Say like, no, you know, I beg it. I'm not gonna do it. I'm gonna go to the G League or not play basketball. It's not his fault.

Yeah, did you want your kids to be bowlers? Yeah, so we haven't had kids yet, and that's a thing I actually think about a lot, is will the Bowler Girl be an Uber? How do I introduce it the right way? How do I I don't like avoid other sports like I'm not gonna show a horse to my son or daughter ever For the love of fear that's expected to do that, you know, take them out of the golf course Have fun of the golf course take them to the basketball court. How do you make it fun for them that they want? Yeah, I'll report back to you. I do you make it fun for them that they won? Yeah.

I'll report back to you. I think about it too. I don't have kids yet. One of my biggest fears is if my kid isn't athletic. Yeah. Because then I have to go to their games. It kind of suffer. So I'm a little worried about that one.

But my fiance played sports. So I think the odds are in our favor. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It'll be, yeah, especially, yeah. So my wife's athletic. She was a dancer. So it'll be, you're good. I think so, yeah. If you marry into good genes,, yeah. It'll be, yeah, especially, yeah, to my wife's athletics, she was a dancer, so it'll be, you're good. I think so, yeah.

If you marry into good genes and yeah. And if you train them early. And you're tall too, how tall is your fiance? She's five, six, but my dad was tall, so I think- Oh, that's funny. I think you're gonna actually at least be six. Yeah, I think we go into baseball. Yeah.

I get, I think tie the right hand behind the back, make him a lefty, left-handed middle reliever, sign a hundred million dollar contracts for 10 years, baseball contracts, there's no, you know, you can sign crazy, you can get injured and get all your money, there you go. That's the move, man. Yeah, I wonder if you could train your kid to be lefty

if you just start handing them stuff at an early age. Tie the right hand behind the back. They don't remember anything ages one through five, right? Yeah, well they say you're born with the dominant hand, but who knows? Oh. Kyrie Irving said he used to do a lot. He's both ambidextrous, right? He's, yeah. That's deadly these days, basketball.

No doubt. I think in like five, 10 years, everyone that hoops is going to be ambidextrous. They're going to be 7'3", ambidextrous, can shoot 3s. Like, it's just, that's what I'm saying. Like, we got to go to baseball. Yeah. I like my lifetime mentally, like it's just, that's what I'm saying. Like we gotta go to baseball. Yeah. I like my lifetime mentally, but it's fine. I might have to hire you, man. Come on. I need a job.

Everybody has their price. Yeah. David, what are you working on next and where can people find you? So big thing I'm working on next is I'm doing the most in-depth study on flow state that's ever been done. Working with some really high level neuroscientists and I've always beendepth study on flow state that's ever been done. Working with some really high-level

neuroscientists and I've always been enamored by flow state in sports and anything like what it is obviously it's getting into your zone basically into you know effortless effort and Neha Naksinsky had kind of introduced it in 1984, had the book Flow. Steven Kotler took it another level with his 22 cues of Flow, but there's never been anything that said, here's a formula to actually tap into Flow and stay in it longer. Now I've interviewed a lot of athletes and I'll ask them, have you been in the Flow state?

Most of them said, yeah. They'll describe that feeling, and then I'll ask them, how did you get into it? They have no idea. There has to be a way. So we think we have, we're calling it the flow code, and it's might, you were doing some testing, we're having, it's actually a scientifically

accredited study, so I'll report back to you in like four to five months, see how the findings were, doing the brain QEEG, where it shows the levels, but the difference in it is, you know how everybody talks now about like, you you know serotonin and dopamine and train those mental acuities it's training the the brainwaves there's five main brainwaves like alpha beta logema how to actually up regulate them and down regulate them and that's what the formula will do so I think it's

gonna be groundbreaking report back to you on that that's a big thing that I'm working on. Can't wait to see that. That's a big thing that I'm working on. Can't wait to see that, man. Yeah, we'll put you in the flow code. Dude, I used to be a runner and runners high is. That's it. You tap it in? Yeah, but I can never figure out how to get there.

But once in a month or whatever, I would get there and it'd feel like. Same thing with shooting. I just shoot and then you just get you black out, baby. But there's something going on in the brain. Has to be a way to trigger it. And I know there's a novelty factor where you do something so many times the habit just becomes nuanced and sub-conversed.

There's a way to do it. So yeah, but DavidNurse.com, DavidNurseMBA on social media. Big new podcast with Dr. Daniel Amon coming out. The doctor and the nurse. Perfect. Love it. All that below man, thanks for coming on. You're awesome.

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