Digital Social Hour - OnlyFans Queen Reveals $200K/Month Secrets | Karmen Karma DSH #969
Episode Date: December 11, 2024🔥 OnlyF*ns Queen spills her $200K/month secrets! 💰 Karmen Karma reveals shocking industry insights and wild stories you won't believe. From hacking scandals to unexpected fan encounters, this ep...isode is packed with jaw-dropping moments. 😱 Discover how Karmen built her empire, overcame challenges, and now helps others succeed in the adult content world. Learn about her new course and book that are changing the game for aspiring creators. 📚💻 Tune in for eye-opening discussions on: • The dark side of OnlyF*ns success • Insider tips for making bank online • Surprising revelations about the adult industry • Karmen's journey from struggle to success Don't miss out on this explosive interview! Watch now and subscribe for more insider secrets from the world's top creators. Join the conversation and get ready to have your mind blown! 🚀 #OnlyF*ns #AdultContent #DigitalEntrepreneur #OnlineSuccess #KarmenKarma #onlyf*nsmarketing #makemoneyonline #onlyf*nsmarketingstrategy #howtoearnmoneyonline #howtopromoteononlyf*ns CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 01:14 - Jellybean 02:13 - OnlyF*ns Impact 05:41 - Pimps and Their Influence 06:49 - Moneybagg Yo Insights 09:54 - Attractiveness to Exes 11:00 - Life After Divorce 13:06 - Remarriage Considerations 14:31 - Surgeries Overview 16:01 - Dream Porn Star Collaborations 18:19 - Upcoming Course Release 21:20 - Average Girl's Success on OnlyF*ns 24:07 - Fan Meetup Experiences 25:45 - No Jumper Discussion 27:30 - Attraction to Women 28:48 - Understanding Agoraphobia 33:17 - Dark Web Blackmail Experience 37:50 - Book Overview 41:01 - Most Controversial Clip 43:30 - Finding Karmen Online 43:33 - Karmen's Focus for the Year 43:42 - Eligibility for Karmen’s Course 43:59 - Outro APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: jenna@digitalsocialhour.com GUEST: Karmen Karma https://x.com/karmenkarma https://www.instagram.com/love_karmen_ LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ Digital Social Hour works with participants in sponsored media and stays compliant with Federal Communications Commission (FCC) regulations regarding sponsored media. #ad Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Oh my gosh.
One day I woke up to my OnlyBands hacked.
They were live streaming like dark web murder.
Somehow got my login,
but there's like a login key that they can go.
I forget what the site is called,
but it's like a streaming like dark web type go I forget what the site is called, but it's like a streaming
Like dark web type thing and then anything they stream on their computer went on to my only fans live and they're posting like
People having sex with animals. They want me to send money, but then I'm thinking about I'm like once I send you that you're just
Gonna tell me now send 10,000 more. Why would you stop?
I'm a man of my word you are playing dark web stuff on my thing. I'm not gonna trust you.
All right guys, here with Carmen Karma.
How's it going?
I'm good.
What you been up to lately, getting into trouble?
I'm always getting in trouble.
I'm always getting in trouble, but I've been up to,
I've just been working.
Okay. Yeah, working on a little bit collabs
and then making an, an OnlyFans course.
So I've been kind of focusing on that more.
Nice, I just saw the data on the OnlyFans numbers
that came out last year, 5. something billion dollars.
More than the NBA, right?
Yeah, crazy. That's crazy.
I was shocked by that.
Like I know OnlyFans makes a lot of money,
but more than the NBA.
They're making more than NBA players.
And they make money.
Oh yeah, I had Jelly Bean on a few weeks ago.
I love her, she intrigues me so much.
She just really hops on those cars
and is she really breaking them?
Yeah, she said it cost a few thousand to fix them.
Yeah, but she's number one right now, right?
She's killing it.
Million dollars a month.
Is she?
Yeah.
Oh my gosh, she makes me feel broke then.
Yeah, she posted.
I thought I was killing it.
No, she posted her numbers last week, 20 million dollars so far. Oh my gosh, she makes me feel broke then. Yeah, she posted. I thought I was killing it. No, she posted her numbers last week,
20 million dollars so far.
Oh my gosh.
In a little under two years.
Does she even film?
She doesn't even film crazy stuff, right?
Just with her boyfriend and some solo shit.
I don't think she does collabs or anything.
Wow. Crazy, right?
Yeah, I need to get on her level.
But there's a lot around your level.
You're doing probably 100K a month, right?
Yeah, I'm doing like 200K a month, which is crazy. Yeah, it is crazy like just thinking of
How much it's grown because even like five years ago? I remember I was doing a Brazzers contract
Yeah, and I like figured out I'd be like, oh my god, I can make $10,000 a month and I was freaking out
I was like 10,000 a month. Oh my god
I'm gonna make a six figure year. And I never made that kind of money
when I was shooting professionally for companies.
Never made crazy money like that ever.
I bet.
So when I go look back and I'm like, wow,
OnlyFans just changed the game.
Oh, it changed the game,
because all the top creators left the industry, right?
Now they're on the left.
Why would we be on set all day for 12 hours sometimes,
and then we get paid $1 a thousand, $2,000,
and then we can't resell it.
But then if we have the scene,
we can make money literally nonstop
until we can sell it forever.
100%.
So you'd be on set for 12 hours sometimes?
Yes.
Holy crap.
Why'd it take so long?
I don't know.
Well, it depends if it was like an acting
or like what the scene was.
Cause sometimes they do like some intricate things.
Like I remember I had to go into the desert
and do it on a big boulder.
And it was like so hot in the Nevada desert
and like I was sweating,
but like they'll take you different places
and do different things and you're just,
you have to be there all day if you want to check.
Damn, was that the craziest place you filmed
on top of a boulder in the desert?
That was like the most uncomfortable.
On a boulder, but then also in like 110 degree weather.
Yeah, oh, they didn't even wait till nighttime when it was colder. No, it was like midday. most uncomfortable. I bet. On a boulder but then also in like 110 degree weather. Yeah. Oh they
didn't even wait till night time when it was colder. No. Now it's like midday. Holy crap.
Yeah. Damon Dice has told me some crazy spots he's filmed that. Yeah I bet. Like on a yacht and like
outdoors in public. Yeah they have us doing like public stuff which I'm like. That's risky right?
Yeah. What happens if you get caught in public? Jail probably? I'd assume so yeah. Yeah but I did
some public stuff too,
but I never thought about that.
They had me walking down the street naked in San Francisco,
but isn't San Francisco a little different?
Oh yeah, I've seen some videos
of the Pride parade or whatever.
Yeah, they had me naked and brought me into a store
and had all the people in there do stuff.
That's probably normal out there these days.
Yeah, I don't know if I could ever live in Cali anymore.
Yeah.
Is that where you're at? No, I'm here. Oh, you're in Vegas? Yeah, I live right down the road. Oh, I don't know if I could ever live in Cali anymore. Is that where you're at?
No, I'm here.
Oh, you're in Vegas?
Yeah, I live right down the road.
Oh, you told me that, yeah.
So you've been here for a while?
Two years.
Okay.
Yeah, I'm three years in.
Where'd you move from?
Hawaii.
Oh, Hawaii.
I should have never left.
I only moved here just for clapping.
Okay.
So that's when I started making a lot of money
when I lived in Hawaii.
And I was just literally working with me and my husband at the time, my ex-husband. Oh, that's when I started making a lot of money when I lived in Hawaii. And I was just literally working with me
and my husband at the time, my ex-husband.
That's a whole other story.
That's a whole other story.
But I was just at home
and that's when I started making six figure months.
And then I was just like, oh my gosh,
I need to move somewhere where there's a lot of creators.
And I moved here and there's really not that many
big girls or guys here that-
There's a couple, right?
I thought it was gonna be amazing,
but I think it's more LA and a lot of girls
went to Miami now.
Yeah, LA's still probably the biggest.
Dani Banks is out here.
Yeah, I just worked with her the other day.
Oh, nice.
Girl on girl or?
So she's never done, she's never had,
I don't know how explicit can I get on here.
You can go.
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It turned me out.
So she wants me to kind of slut train her a little bit.
Wow.
Okay.
Shout out to Danny.
She went super viral on the show.
Did she?
A little too viral.
She didn't tell you what happened?
No.
Bro, she called out this NFL guy.
About the watch?
Yeah.
Oh, that was on here?
The next week she got robbed.
Oh, that's when those four,
she was just telling me about that.
Yeah.
When those dudes came in our house.
They pulled up.
Because they knew she had stuff there or what?
It was because the clip got 20 million views.
Dang.
They got pissed.
Hey, you gotta be careful with that stuff.
Dang.
Pimpin' out here is pretty common.
Oh yeah.
I'm sure you've been approached, right?
Oh yeah.
Anytime I walk through a casino,
I'm just like trying to dodge all the pimps.
Damn, you can literally see them?
Oh yeah, they, I know what they're coming up for Wow yeah for sure and they want to take a percentage of your only fans, right?
Yes, that's what they do yeah, or they want me to escort which I would I used to do that
Oh, yeah, only fans, but now I'm like why would I do that when I can make thousands of dollars laying in bed, right?
like
Answering messages escorting seems pretty risky too, just safety wise.
Yeah, the girls that are here do it now.
I'm like, why don't you just do OnlyFans?
You don't need to be in a hotel room alone
with some random guy.
Just doesn't seem like the risk to reward is there.
No, not with OnlyFans.
Before OnlyFans, porn didn't make me enough money
to pay all the bills of everything I had to do,
so I was escorting.
But now I'm like, there's no amount of money.
I don't think that could make me wanna
get in a hotel room alone with someone.
100%.
I did hear there's some high end ones though.
Oh, if there was like a celebrity one.
Yeah, no, I've heard there's some really high end ones
where you'll pay like 25K or something,
fly them out to Dubai.
I've heard about those Dubai ones.
Yeah.
But I'm like, what are the guys looking like?
Oh, that matters for you?
Yes, yes.
If it's like a hot celebrity or something, then I'm down.
I feel that.
You got a celebrity pass?
Celebrity pass?
Yeah.
So I like who I want to fuck the most.
Yeah.
I want money bag, yo, did you see that thing
I went viral for last year?
No, what did you do?
I was on a podcast and I said I would pay him,
cause girls usually ask the rappers to pay them and stuff,
but I was like, I will pay you money bag, yo,
a thousand dollars, or a hundred thousand dollars to fuck me.
Like I literally put out there and I still mean it.
But then I'm like, he does have a girlfriend.
So then I put it on social media,
I'm like, I'll pay you a hundred thousand too.
Wow.
For both of y'all, but Moneybag Yo is my number one.
Why are you so attracted to him, you think?
He's just, his music and then all his tattoos
and everything, like when my marriage was failing
and like me and my husband would never have sex anymore,
the only way we would do it is he would put
on a Moneybag Yo music video on the TV
and then I would watch Moneybag Yo while he had sex with me
and that's the only way he can get me to have sex with him.
So you were thinking about someone else
while you were having sex.
I was just staring at Money Big Yo
and he knew I was thinking about Money Big Yo.
I didn't look at him at all.
Poor dude.
Just get behind me, let me watch my man
and that's the only way, probably like the last year.
Wow.
So anytime he put on Money Big Yo,
I'm like, oh, he wants to have sex.
That's hilarious.
Who would have thought you would be in a sexless marriage?
But then he'd be like, just go work.
Like when he wasn't able to put it down,
he'd just tell me to go to work.
Oh yeah?
Oh, so you were doing work while with him.
Oh yeah, I was doing gang bangs while married.
What?
Yeah.
And he was cool with it?
Yeah, he would like, back in the day,
so he met me when I was only doing like professional.
And he would be on set with me
and like watch me do like four guys.
And he would be like behind the camera and he like come blot the
spit on my face and
So he used to go on these podcasts with me and like we wanted to because everyone was so intrigued how I was married
And it turned into we're we're just trying to explain it like oh, he supports me
But he got turned into Aaron that has all these clips of him like, world's biggest cut.
So he was like, not happy about that.
So that's what led to the divorce?
No.
Oh, no?
But what led to the divorce,
well, there was a lot of things.
One, he didn't have a job.
Oh, God.
So that was a turn off for you.
Yeah, yeah.
I was, you know, at first I was like,
cool with being the breadwinner,
but then I just, you know,
it's not attractive when he's not doing anything at all,
but like what broke everything is I was using his phone
to order Postmates and then one of my female fans,
I see it pop up and I was scrolling through,
he had this whole relationship with one of my female fans
I didn't know about and the way he got in contact with her
was going onto my OnlyF fans and messaging her pretending to
Be me and was like you should hit up my husband like no
Yeah
And so he got her stuff pretending to be me and they have this big thing and I'm like first of all we're in an open
Thing so like it I the reason I say we're open is as long as you tell me like what you're gonna do before
I feel like it's respectful like you're not doing behind my back and that's the whole reason I like it open
is so there's no betrayal.
I'm like how, like if I would've let you do that
but you still had to hide like a big thing behind my back
that really pissed me off.
And I'm like carrying all the weight in the family here
and so I'm like you gotta go.
So could you date a guy that made less than you now
after experiencing that?
I think I would have to.
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Like I keep thinking about this, like I don't want to date anyone without a job.
Like I need to have some kind of standard.
You have to have a job and be like somewhat successful, but like I don't expect them to
be making millions each year.
Yeah, with your numbers now, I mean, 200k a month, that's 3 million a year or so.
Yeah, I'm like, I know it's, it would be hard to find someone who makes that, but at least
like, I don't know, six figures.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's good.
At least you have a baseline, right?
Yeah.
It just fucks up the dynamic, dude.
It does, I'm like,
cause well, I was like broke when we got together.
So that's like, but then I started growing
and I started hustling and doing this.
And then I would like have him,
I would ask him to like work for my company
and like help me with certain things.
And he just didn't want to do anything.
Damn, he was lazy.
Very lazy. He had it all set too.
And like, I would have to pay like a nanny
to be there at the house
and he wouldn't even like watch the kids.
He'd just be in bed like scrolling on YouTube
like on his phone.
And it's like not even like he helped around the house
or anything.
So every day I'm just like, I am not attracted.
That's crazy.
So you had kids with him?
Two kids.
Whoa.
So wanna know what happened when I divorced him?
What, you took both of them?
He sued me for a million dollars.
Yes, yes, I'm so mad.
I'm so mad.
Every OnlyFans girl get a prenup.
Get a prenup.
Not for the children, anything.
So I have the kids a hundred percent,
like I have them full time
and I get no child support from him,
but I have to pay him thousands of dollars every month
just for being my ex. Yeah, so he doesn't him, but I have to pay him thousands of dollars every month just for being my ex.
What?
Yeah, so he doesn't pay me, I have to pay him,
even though I have the kids,
just because I had to share my net worth with him.
Wow.
Well, we kind of negotiated it down a little bit,
but yeah, he came after my house,
which everything is 100% in my name,
like I 100% bought it.
And so when I bought a house here in Nevada,
they had him sign this paper saying like,
he isn't on the house, like,
because it's a community state.
So I thought that protected me,
but I guess it means nothing in court.
So I had $3 million house that he gets half of.
All of my 401k, I've worked so hard to to retire.
I would have been able to retire next year. And now it sent me back eight years of what I would retire
Because of how much money I have to give him. You have to give him millions. Yeah. Yeah, this man is
Getting rich off of being my ex. Damn. And then as soon as I gave him like his first hundred thousand dollar payment
He drives up to pick up like the kids one time in the BMW like a brand new BMW all wrapped
I'm like you're welcome. You're fucking welcome.
So yeah, I just thought, you know, I trusted.
Yeah, that's nuts.
That he wouldn't do that, but if,
that was like the stupid mistake in my life
of not getting a pre-nup or a post-nup.
You wouldn't have thought about it back then
because you weren't even.
I wasn't making money.
He was probably making more than you back then, right?
No, he was always broke.
Oh, he wasn't?
I don't know what, I don't know what this decision was.
I knew him for seven months and we drove,
we lived in LA, drove to Vegas and he loped.
Seven months and like we were like.
You did the overnight wedding?
Yeah.
Damn, I didn't know people actually did that.
I always hear stories but.
Yeah, I don't know what, I was just so young.
And then when I started making money,
I did start thinking like, should I get a post now?
But I was like, no, he would never do that to me.
Like I just really thought that would never happen.
So I'm a sugar mama.
I've had the prenup conversation with my girl.
Really?
I think it's important.
Yeah, I do too.
I don't think I could ever get married.
I would do a wedding, but no paper.
I would wear a ring, everything,
but I don't think I ever legally wanna be married.
You're not doing it again?
I don't think so, because what I was learning
from lawyers is even if you have like these things in place,
like even if you had a prenup,
they can still try to fight and go against that.
I've heard that, yeah.
So I'm like, it's not protected.
And I just work so hard.
And it pisses me off like a man is getting
the money I made through sex work
and he's just collecting money I'm making through my body.
Like that's what really pisses me off.
I'm like, he watched me build all of that myself
just to take it.
Yeah, that's messed up.
Is he Hawaiian?
He's not.
Oh, he's not?
What is he, white?
Black, black and white.
Black, you like black guys?
I do, I have a type.
Every girl likes black guys, right?
I know, I've noticed that now,
but I feel like I was before the trend.
Yeah, they have the highest like desire.
Yeah. I don't know about any race. Yeah, but then I feel like now a lot of white guys are, they have the highest like desire out of any race.
Yeah, but then I feel like now a lot of white guys
are going with black girls, so it's kind of evening out.
Are they?
I haven't seen that.
Yeah, I've been seeing like on TikTok,
I see a lot of girls that are like want white guys now.
Okay, I've been with one black girl.
Yeah?
Yeah.
I love black girls.
You like them?
Sexy, yeah.
Yeah, they got good bodies, right?
It's hard to be those.
Naturally.
Yeah, see I'm big on natural. Yeah. But a lot of girls in your got good bodies, right? It's hard to be those. Naturally. Yeah, see I'm big on natural.
Yeah.
But a lot of girls in your industry are not, right?
Because really I like,
white girls aren't built like that naturally.
It's hard for us.
They need to gain an edge.
Yeah.
How many surgeries have you done?
Oh my goodness.
Two BBLs.
Two?
But the first one doesn't count.
The first one.
So I had the first one done like before the BBL wave.
I didn't even know it was a BBL.
I just knew he's like, I can lipo you here
and then add the fat here.
But it was a doctor who was not certified.
Oh, I saw this.
You got in trouble, right?
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
But I didn't know he wasn't certified at the time.
I thought it was legit, but I should have known
because he hit me up on social media
and said he'll give me a really good deal
as long as I shout him out.
But I went and got a BBL by him and breast implants
and I had to take the breast implants out eventually
because they made me so sick, they just weren't in right.
And then my BBL didn't last
because I did my boobs and butt at the same time.
And he's like, it's fine, just rest on your butt
because you can't rest on the implants.
So I just rested on my butt, but that kills all the fat.
So I went through the process,
but only the second one I count.
Oh my gosh.
So you had to remove the silicone?
Yeah, I had one pair of implants.
And then I went to this doctor and got bigger ones.
And then I had to have them removed and put new ones in.
And then I had them removed again.
Whoa.
And then I swore off implants forever.
But then I had a second baby.
And then I was like.
Started sagging a little bit.
I got to fill them back up.
So now I have just small ones in there
to fill up the skin, you know, but.
Yeah, I heard they leech right in the skin, in the blood.
Yeah.
Like the plastic.
Yeah, it's not good for you.
That's scary.
Damn.
Cause it's like when you think about it,
it's an implant is a foreign object just in your body.
So your body's trying to attack that foreign object
so it can make your body sick.
Yeah, that's crazy.
Is there anyone you want to film with that you haven't?
You've probably filmed with all the top people at this point, right?
I think I filmed with everyone from what I researched. Yeah, you got all the big ones. I got lots of hundreds of sex tapes. Um,
Now I feel like all like the girls I'm crushing on are just like only fans girls now there's not a lot of like
Like I love that jelly bean girl. Yeah, I think she does girl. I don't think she does
Yeah, she's got a really tight relationship with her boyfriend
What about uh, riley reed
She was like one of my first shoots ever in the industry. Oh, yeah, I like deep throated her foot
If you search her name together, there's a video of her foot down my throat
and just drooling all over her foot.
You fit the whole thing in your mouth?
Yeah, she's tiny.
Holy crap.
So I had her foot in there
and we were just fisting each other's throat.
It was a spit fetish video,
so we were just shoving fists and feet in our mouths.
Damn, so you like feet.
I do like feet.
I like girls' feet.
Okay, why not guys?
Because y'all don't take care of them.
I'm like...
Y'all got sweaty gym feet and nastyall don't take care of them. Y'all got like sweaty gym feet and nasty,
like girls take care of their toes.
They're all pedicured.
Okay. Yeah.
Yeah. I don't get pedicures.
Guys are like hairy toes.
I'm not trying to suck on that.
I'll suck on the girls, pedicured girls.
Yeah. I get hair on my toes.
Yeah. That's weird.
I'm not trying to suck on that.
Yeah. Do you?
No, no, no.
You don't shave them? Well, I did, I guess had my big toe laser. Yeah, do you? No, no, no. You don't shave them?
Well, I did, I guess, have my big toe laser.
So I guess that's kind of cheating,
but I like lasered everything
and I did have them add the big toe.
Damn, I haven't gotten any,
actually I got laser on my face.
You did? Twice, yeah.
Like hair removal?
No, the acne or whatever acne's for.
I thought you meant the hair removal.
People do that?
Yeah, that's like my whole body's hair removal
Oh, what I'm talking about the laser. So there's no hair on any my whole body is
Hairless Wow, and I did this like years ago and it just doesn't grow back
It just like they shock it with this thing
It feels like honestly like they're dragging like a flame over you it yeah
But then the hair just doesn't grow back and you did it on your vagina too? Wow, so you never have to shave anymore.
Never, no stubble ever like anywhere, it's nice.
That's actually a pretty interesting procedure.
I recommend it too.
Yeah, I like that, cause shaving is annoying.
Yeah, and then like you get like the razor burn and stuff,
like every OnlyFans girl, I'm like, you need a laser.
Yeah, for real.
Keep it smooth.
So when's your course coming out?
So, this is so annoying.
TikTok keeps banning me.
I think someone paid,
you know how people can pay to get your accounts down?
It has to be someone's targeting me like that
and I think I know who it is.
But it's like as soon as my TikTok,
that's like where my whole girl fan base is.
So I only made this course because for years,
these girls, like somehow I got a girl,
cause all my other platforms, it's like men obviously,
cause only fans, but on TikTok,
I just have hundreds of thousands of females
that are like my support team.
Like they're so dope.
And I don't know how it got like that,
but they are always begging me like,
you need to make a course,
you need to teach us how to do it.
And so finally I was like, should I really do this?
So all these girls have been begging,
asking when it comes out. I've been working on it for a
year like I really have just put everything into it and as soon as I'm
about to release it my tick-tock just won't come back Wow and that's like
where all my girls are like some of them are my Instagram but like the main like
where I got this whole fan base that asked for this course is deleted right
now that sucks so I verified on tick TikTok? No, I wasn't.
Oh, that could be why.
I got banned twice last week.
Last week?
Yeah, I did an interview with Tulsi Gabbard.
Do you even know who that is?
No, I don't.
She's a politician, but yeah, I got banned.
And you got banned because of that?
Yeah, it tells you the clip.
Like when you log in, it says this clip wasn't logged.
Cause no one, someone reported it because it's politics?
Probably, yeah.
She's got powerful enemies.
I'm sure whoever's targeting you has a reason.
Dang, that's crazy.
See, like, I feel like TikTok just will take you down
for no reason.
People know how to rig it in a way where
one little video could get you banned
if reported in the right way, so.
Yeah, that's what I think is happening
because I'm getting it back.
So I get it like a recovery service, get it back.
But within 24 hours, it's gone again.
So I think whoever is like,
I think someone's paying to be deleted.
When they see I'm back, they're like, hey, she's back up.
So then he has to retake it down.
And I think it's just like-
And when you're not verified,
it's easier to get you taken down.
But I feel like TikTok does not wanna verify
those like me.
Have you been banned on any platforms? Yeah, pretty much all of them. But now I have like tick-tock does not want to verify that was like me. Yeah, have you been banned on any platforms?
Pretty much all of them all but now I have like the recovery thing. So that's what I have to use every single time, but I mean
Twitter I've never been deleted on but like Instagram and tick-tock is just like a struggle. Yeah, I bet Twitter allows everything
I see little porn on there. So oh, yeah
I'm like I can be me but Instagram I'm like trying to stay calm,
but like TikTok, I'm like,
I really don't feel like I'm going that crazy.
Like I'm not showing booty and doing all that,
I just think someone's reporting it.
Yeah.
But that's where I wanted to launch it,
like to all those girls,
so I did like soft launch it on my Instagram,
and it's doing like,
like if these numbers keep up,
it's like comparative to OnlyFans money.
So I'm like, so that basically like would double my money.
So I'm like now really motivated to keep it going.
But I know if I get that TikTok back
and give it to those girls, like then it'll.
It'll pop off.
Nice.
Yeah, I wonder if your model is replicatable.
Like, do you think you could have an ordinary girl just make money on OnlyFans?
I do think so because I know there's so many ordinary girls.
So I'm on this Telegram group chat with all these girls,
and these girls are making more than me.
Some of them that have never been in the industry, never done.
They're not big on social media, nothing.
They just, we all have this cross-promotion Telegram
where we're in all these groups where we help each other grow.
Oh, wow.
And there's girls who have no,
they're making like $300,000 a month
and I'm out here having sex with tons of girls
and they're like, not, and then they're making these numbers
and they have no social media.
So that's when I discovered, when I discovered that,
that's when my numbers went up
because I started taking notes from those girls
because I usually only knew porn girls
and all the management companies and stuff.
So I tried the management company back in 2018.
But it-
They take 50%, right?
They take all your money
and they don't know any of the methods.
I kept trying to be telling them to,
they don't utilize all the features on there.
So I was trying to teach them.
And then when I started teaching them,
I'm like, what am I doing?
I just need to figure this out myself. So I took my to like teach them. And then when I started teaching them, I'm like, what am I doing? I just need to figure this out myself.
So I took my page back 100%,
which was like the scariest thing ever.
So it was probably like 2000,
like right before the pandemic.
And then I just learned from these Telegram girls.
So I bought other girls' courses.
I bought all these,
learned how to do like all the captions
and what to put on your feed
and like trial and error for years.
And then that's when I became a millionaire.
Wow, look at you being an entrepreneur, that's cool.
Yeah, that must've been a scary moment though,
because you were relying on the agency.
And I never knew a girl like in the industry,
whoever did it without a management company.
Oh yeah.
So I was so scared, I was so scared to do it,
but I feel like that's the best way to do it,
because well, I like to be in control.
But I just feel like you don't get control
if you don't have your page.
So I know exactly like what I'm posting to the feed. I know, have all these little methods that
I know how to make money. And that's why I think anyone could use the model because I
had all the fan base before, but when I had the management company, I was maybe making
like $30,000 a month, but then I'm paying them half. So I'm making maybe $15,000 a month,
but I had that same fan base from being in the industry
so long, but then when I took it and then applied
all these things I taught myself,
that's when it went to seven figures.
I love it.
Yeah, and plus you're collabing with other girls,
so you can both grow.
Yeah, and there's just so many little techniques
and things I never knew about,
and when you're on there yourself
and you know the fans and you can give them
that relationship, actually spoil them
and make them feel important,
some of these management companies are just
treating them poorly.
So.
Yeah, I've heard some wild stories.
Yeah, so I can send those guys that are good to me,
I can send them a video so they know it's me
and I can send them voice notes and stuff
and I just feel like it makes a better
relationship yeah and so that's why they're spending more you ever do fan
meetups I did once yeah you did this is like before I think it was like before
only thing it was like you're on premium snapchat was like the thing I heard
about it yeah you had to pay for it right yeah so we were like charging guys
to go to our Snapchat
and then we would do like,
post our stories like little videos and stuff.
So that was like right before OnlyFans and I
decided to do like one of those fuck a fan contests.
And, but the way I kind of,
I feel like I didn't rig it.
Like I, I actually,
but I made every guy send me a picture
of their face and their dick.
And then I chose from there.
So you fucked a fan?
Yeah.
Wow. Yeah, and he ended up having like the biggest from there. So you fucked a fan? Yeah. Wow.
Yeah, and he ended up having like the biggest thing ever.
But I shouldn't have picked him
because now when people watch it,
they're like, that's not a fan.
That's like a talent from the industry,
but it was like a hundred percent of fan,
but I picked him based upon.
So you just picked the biggest dick you saw.
Yeah.
I picked a really big dick, yeah.
That's hilarious.
Yeah, but it was like, it went so good for me,
but now if I posted on OnlyFans,
they like banned that content now.
Oh, really?
You can't say like, you fuck a fan.
What?
Oh, they don't want to get sued or something?
Yeah, because otherwise it's like solicitation.
Yeah, damn.
Yeah, I always wondered if those fan videos were fake.
Most of them are.
That's right.
But I like really did mine for real.
Like I wanted to do a real one.
Yeah.
But then I made it look sketchy
because I picked like a well-in-done.
I feel that. Those delivery driver I picked like a well in doubt.
I feel that, those delivery driver ones are definitely fake.
Oh yeah.
Those are bullshit.
Yeah, a lot, most of the stuff is, you know,
like a little setup, but yeah.
But some people do, like I've seen some weird ones
that looked kind of real, I don't know.
Sometimes they be, they're fooling me too though.
Yeah?
Yeah, like I'm like, is this real?
And they're like, no.
So even like I get fooled nowadays. Yeah. Yeah, how was Adams podcast?
I've been on it a lot. I actually went on it with my ex-husband
Oh, yeah
that was like the first podcast he did with me of like talking about like our marriage and him supporting me in the industry and
stuff and then I did
Plug talk or are no, okay. I think I did to no jumper? I did do both. Okay. I think I did two no jumper.
I did one with Sharp.
Yeah.
And that one went really good.
That's when I did the money bag thing that ended up.
That was like my biggest paid month I've ever had
was from that money bag clip.
Nice.
Yeah. Okay.
But then I love Adam because I've been before
all that kind of stuff.
Like I feel like when him and Lena started,
I think I was one of their first threesomes.
It was like before OnlyFans, before they did Plug Talk,
anything like that, we just did it in their old apartment.
So by that time, I already fucked Adam twice.
Oh, so you didn't film it, you just did it?
No, we filmed it.
We filmed it.
We have lots of tapes together before Plug Talk.
Are you different on camera?
No, honestly, I feel like on camera,
like when I'm, it depends on the scene.
Like if I'm into it, which all my OnlyFans ones,
I'm actually into it, because I get to pick the people.
I like, I start knowing like it's film,
but I get so like lost in this, lost.
I forget the camera's there.
Like I just, I'm all, I don't even know how to describe it.
It's like, I'm just in my own world with that person.
And like, I don't even realize the camera's there
until like the person holding the camera says something
or we have to take like a break or something.
And I'm just like in it.
So you get locked in.
I get locked in.
Cause I'm picking like the girls or the guys
like I really want.
Yeah, yeah.
So I'm just like excited.
Do you have a preference, girl or guy?
I like them both, one of each.
So equally?
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, I feel like I like girls more than guys.
Why?
I've always liked girls, they're just pretty.
Their bodies are so pretty.
I don't know, I'm just more,
I'm more turned on by looking at girls.
Same.
I'm with you on that.
I would imagine, yeah.
Girls are just so pretty.
I can't believe some girls don't like girls.
I'm like, what?
Girls are just so hot.
There's a lot of bi girls in Vegas.
Almost every girl out here.
I heard at least.
Yeah, some. I need to actually go out. Yeah, do you do not go out to the clubs or anything? in Vegas. Almost every girl out here. I heard at least. Yeah some.
I need to actually go out.
Yeah, do you do not go out to the clubs or anything?
Really, you just do your own thing?
Yeah, I'm 10 years sober.
Oh, congrats.
So when I go out it's like I can drink like a Red Bull
but I can't really hang like everyone else does.
I don't drink either.
You don't?
No.
And you go out?
Yeah.
What?
Not to the club.
I'll go out to like dinner and then maybe a show.
Okay, yeah, I like chill stuff like that.
Yeah, I'm an introvert,
so I don't really like to be in a club or.
Me too, I like to just go home to my bed,
which a lot of people don't think I'm an introvert
because I'm so crazy on camera and stuff.
Which I like to go on camera and have sex, be crazy,
but then I like to go home, be in my bed,
watch my show and just talk to no one.
I can't believe you're an introvert
and you just talk to people all day.
Huge introvert.
But when I get home after this, I'm shut off.
Yeah, you need like that recovery time.
Yeah, a lot of podcast hosts,
all the top ones are introverts.
Really, I would never think that.
Yeah, like a majority of them.
I wonder why that is.
And y'all choose to just talk to people all day long
when you hate people. I never thought, if you saw me five five ten years ago doing podcasts. Yeah, look at you now. Yeah, I mean I had agoraphobia
If you're leaving your house
Yeah, I couldn't even walk outside
And now look at you I know crazy like traveling and stuff to write talking to all these people
Yeah, I'm sure you were the same though. You were probably really shy growing up, right?
I was shy, but I've always been able to turn on
this slutty person.
When I get slutty, then it's no care in the world.
Or when I used to drink, then I was social.
But once I got sober, I was not social at all anymore.
So you used to pound.
Yeah, you were a big drinker.
Big drinker.
I never once in my life,
when I drank, did not end up blacked out,
like in some where, yeah, like, and I was bad,
like I would be like drinking and dry,
like getting DUIs, like it was not like a cute black.
Holy crap, so you were dealing with some trauma then
to get to that.
Yeah, and I'd just be like waking up in places,
I have no idea where I am, waking up like outside,
just like on the street places. I have no idea where I am waking up like outside Just like on the street like I was insane
Yeah, I'm like on drugs and stuff. So damn and then what was that moment where you were like, this is it like I'm done
It was like, you know what a VN is like. Yeah, the word show. Yeah, I couldn't go to the award
I was I traveled from LA to the award show and I was there in the hotel and I was so hungover
I couldn't even go to the awards show and I was there in the hotel and I was so hungover.
I couldn't even go to the awards show.
I was supposed to present an award.
And I was just on like the,
I remember being on the floor of the shower,
just like crying and being like,
I cannot do this anymore.
And then that was the last time I ever drank
was at AVN almost 10 years ago.
Wow, congrats, it's major.
You needed an IV drip that day.
I know, they didn't do that back then really. I don't remember anyone getting IV drips back then. That's the. You needed an IV drip that day. I know, they didn't do that back then really.
I don't remember anyone getting IV drips back then.
That's the thing now.
Yeah.
No hangovers anymore.
For real?
Yeah, if you have one the next morning, you're good.
Don't tell me this.
But I was ruining my life.
I was ruining my life for real.
Like I was just going out.
I was just having sex in public places.
What?
Yes, I would get kicked out of like every club
because I would just be doing it on the couch. No way. And I just, and I wouldn't believe it. Like I wouldn, yes. I would get kicked out of like every club because I would just be doing it on the couch.
No way.
And I just, and I wouldn't believe it.
Like I wouldn't remember anything till the next day.
People would show me like the footage and I'd be like, oh.
Holy crap.
So there's people you had sex with
that you don't even remember.
Oh yeah, for sure.
Wow.
Yeah, I probably don't know half of them at least.
Holy crap, half?
I mean, I'm sure it was every single day
and I don't remember anything.
I just wake up and be like, I think I had sex.
It feels like I maybe had sex last night.
Damn. Yeah.
That's kind of scary though, right?
Like who knows what they did.
Right, I'm just like going home with anyone.
Geez.
Perfect way to get murdered or something.
Are you toning back now though?
Yeah, I'm like, I just have my like sex on camera really.
Okay.
So I'm not as crazy as I used to be,
but like I feel like when I get on camera,
then I go crazy cause I like it having sex so much. Yeah, but I just
I'd be living two different lives like
Mommy stay at home like mommy with all the kids like in that mode and then like if they go to their dads for like
One day then I just go find and then I'll go do that. But other than that like I'm I'm really not
Going crazy because I'm like I'm sober
But I still shoot a little bit on the side. You got that wild side still. You watch any porn right now?
Do I watch it? Yeah. All the time. Yeah I have to like go I have to like use my toy
before I go to sleep. Wow. Otherwise I can't fall asleep. Okay what's your favorite
category? You don't want to know. I watch the kind of stuff where afterwards I'm like ashamed of myself like what is wrong with you.
Oh my gosh you're watching hentai aren't you? I do like hentai where afterwards I'm like ashamed of myself. Like, oh my gosh, you're watching hentai, aren't you?
I do like hentai, but I'm not even ashamed of that.
I've I watched some crazy stuff.
Like I first of all, I love like interracial gangbang is like the first thing I pop up.
But then I go down like a dark rabbit hole of like all this crazy bondage stuff.
Or one time I ended up like I like watching like like two straight guys have sex.
So gay sex. But but they're straight and you can tell they're like they're like gangster and they like don't want to be no
And I don't know for the fact that I know they're just doing it from my
My brain is like sick, but that's a category. Yeah, it's gay
Yeah, and you can totally tell like they they're not into it at all. Wow. Yeah, is that rape or?
Like that's why's where my brain goes
and I just clear all my history afterwards.
Oh, I bet.
You got an undercover agent watching you
and we're taking photos.
Yeah, that's what I think too.
I'm like, this is so concerning.
They probably have that.
I heard that incognito mode isn't even private.
Really?
Yeah, they record it.
Google Chrome's getting sued over it right now.
Damn.
Yeah.
You need that webcam blocker, you have that?
On your laptop, or do you watch it on your phone?
I watch it on my phone.
Okay, yeah, I don't know if they have a phone blocker.
Might need to look into that.
Dang.
Yeah, scary time we're in.
You've never been blackmailed with like, photos?
Oh my gosh.
On my OnlyFans, I have not talked about this at all yet.
One day I woke up to my OnlyFans hacked.
Oh. But it was, they were live streaming like dark web murders.
They had, somehow they got my,
so they somehow got my login,
but there's like a login key that they can go,
I forget what the site is called,
but it's like a streaming, like dark web type thing.
And then anything they stream on their computer
went onto my OnlyFans live.
So even if I changed my password, I logged them out,
everything, they could just stream.
So they were posting the sickest stuff,
so there was like murder stuff,
and then they were blackmailing my fans saying,
I'm gonna send your girlfriends everything,
like and show them everything,
so then my subscribers start going down.
Then they're posting like,
people having sex with animals.
What?
And stuff on my page.
Yes, so then I'm just like losing followers like crazy
and I can't even kick them off, like they had this key.
So then I'm getting these calls from the UK
and they're like, do you want it to stop?
And they're like telling me my government name.
They're telling me my address saying like,
do you want me to prove that I know where you live?
They're threatening me, I had to leave my house for weeks.
I was so scared and I I refused to send them money.
They wanted me to send money.
How much?
Just 10,000.
Oh, that's not too much actually.
So I was like, but then I'm thinking about it,
I'm like, once I send you that,
you're just gonna tell me, now send 10,000 more.
Why would you stop?
And he's like, I'm a man of my word.
You were playing dark web stuff on my thing.
I'm not gonna trust you.
So I kept saying no, I called the cops
who got the FBI involved.
Damn. Yeah, it was some serious stuff I'm not gonna trust you. So I kept saying no. I called the cops who got the FBI involved.
Damn.
Yeah, like it was like some serious stuff
because then they doxxed,
so they went live and the whole screen was my address
and my name and my phone number.
Oh my.
So one morning I woke up,
my phone would not stop going off.
And then people are like,
oh my God, you're hacked.
Like my fans were texting me and showing me screenshots.
So when you go live,
it sends your fans like a picture of it,
like a preview picture to their email.
And so like 280,000 fans, when they check their email,
have a picture of my name, address and phone number.
So it just like delivered all that to them.
They were going live for over 24 hours straight.
They would knock it off just with my information.
They're calling me being like,
it's not gonna stop ever until you give me this money.
And I was calling OnlyFans trying to get them involved.
They didn't know how to stop it either.
Like no one, yeah, no one knew how to stop it
because we were like securing the OnlyFans side,
but because they had this like stream key,
they were able to keep going.
So everyone had my address, my phone number.
I was so scared.
I just left my house.
I went out of town for a week.
I was so scared.
And eventually some random girl on Telegram was like,
hey, I know about this streaming stuff.
Just change this.
And she gave me the instructions to do it.
And this random girl saved it from stopping.
I just had to change this one thing.
And it stopped and that guy never contacted me again.
But I had to change my phone number
and I couldn't even use that same iCloud
because I didn't know if he hacked my iCloud,
if he had, I didn't know how he got in.
So I didn't even use that same iCloud.
So I had to lose all my contacts,
all like I have that phone still like with the pictures on it
but I had to lose that phone number, all the contacts.
That's insane.
When did that happen?
July or August.
Oh, this year?
Yeah.
Sorry, two months ago. Just a couple months ago. Oh my gosh. Oh, this year? Yeah. It's like two months ago.
Just a couple months ago.
Oh my gosh, yeah, it was so scary.
Holy crap.
And the police were like, you have to move.
And they never found out who did it?
No, because I got a lawyer and I was talking to him.
He's like, listen, you might be able to get him punished,
but you're gonna be sending so much money to do that.
We're gonna have to go over to the UK
and file all these charges.
So then I was just like, I don't even want to egg him on anymore. Like the fact he's
leaving me alone, like just go on to your next victim.
Holy crap.
But it was so scary. Just like every morning I woke up, it was something different. Like
the dark web, like those ones. And then the next day it'd be something else. And the next
day I wake up, my phone's ringing out the hook and everyone has my phone number. It
was just like, I never thought it would end.
I'd be shitting myself.
It was so scary, and that's my income.
That's my whole livelihood.
Yeah, that's your whole life.
And I'm just seeing thousands of friends drop
because they're telling my fans,
I'm gonna tell your wives and girlfriends everything.
Crazy.
So everyone's blocking me and I don't wanna get caught.
That was really scary.
So you had to move?
I haven't moved.
Oh, you haven't?
Maybe I should say I moved.
Oh, I would've got out of it, yeah.
That's what I was really scared of, but no one did.
But I do live in a gated community.
Yeah, guard gated or just gated?
It's guard gated.
And then I have my security system and I'm strapped,
so I'm like, try me.
Fuck, that's why I like Vegas.
We can be strapped out here.
Even if they walk in your house and you say one more step,
they're gone.
Yeah, can't do that in Cali.
Exactly.
So that does give me, I'm like,
there's the gate guard, there's the security in my house, and I have. Absolutely. Well, hopefully
your course does well. Do you have a book coming up too? So I have published a book. Oh, you did?
Yeah, I did publish a book. So that was like the first thing I ever did that was not sex work. I
was so proud of that. Oh, it wasn't about sex work. It was kind of about sex work.
It's like my whole life story. It's called Overcome.
So it's just like all of the like,
raised like the childhood trauma,
everything that led me, everything to porn.
But I was like homeless before I got into porn.
So I feel like porn saved me because I was selling drugs,
homeless, like living out of my car,
like in really bad situations.
And I owed this guy a lot of money.
And then I just had the agency fly me to LA
and I just never went back.
And then I was able to make money in the industry.
But I really don't think I would have ever left that life
if I didn't get into porn.
So like porn was safer for me than what I was doing.
Wow. And that's the side you won't see on social media.
You'll just see people hating on you.
Yeah. Get a real job.
I would rather do this than have no place to live and be in danger all the time
Like I I grew up really really broke. So this is I didn't have money to go to college
This is like playing my cards
I was down like I kind of you know played it the best to my abilities for real and now you're gonna help thousands of
Girls make a side income. So that's like what I feel like that's gonna be like my life purpose
I'm like, right, you know, like it's cool to make guys like come all the time
But like helping girls make money like I have a lot of like single moms or like girls that just you know
Want to make their own money?
So if I'm able to make that happen for all these girls that will be I think you will and so you don't even have to
Do porn I know girls making tons without yeah, that's what I'm telling girls
Like you don't have to do any of that stuff
You can do solo like there's so many ways to make money solo. That's how I make the majority of my money
is just like sexting and stuff.
Like I would say like 80% of my money is sexting,
not the sexting or anything like that.
It's just like engaging with your fans
and knowing how to keep them going.
So the dick ratings and like just sexting.
I love doing that.
Yeah?
Yeah, I like the ones when they want you to be mean to them.
Those are my favorite.
Oh my God.
What's the smallest dick you've seen?
Oh my gosh. Like it's like a belly butt, like an Audi belly butt. It was like nothing there.
Like but then he could grow it. Like when it was soft it was not there but then it would be like
a little bit. But I'm telling you there was like nothing there. Wow. Nothing there. So micro penis.
Like small. It was just the smallest thing in the world. Oh my gosh poor guy Yeah, but I there's a lot like that out there. What there's a lot of weird tiny
things that don't even look like
Dicks at all and then these average guys will be like be honest
Like I know it's not all that I'm like you you are great compared to some of these guys on there
Yeah, a lot of people gas their numbers up right? Oh for sure. Yeah
What do you think the average is because you you've probably seen like a thousand right?
Thousands, thousands.
Like what would I read it?
Like the average length you think it's like?
Like when people say they have a nine inch I don't believe them even in porn like I don't think.
I think they're even lying in porn.
Yeah.
I feel like the average is like five?
Okay.
Five?
There we go.
It's not like bad.
Yeah. I like there's it I think people think those numbers are bad because people lie about their numbers so much right cuz five sounds small
I've sound small, but if you look at it on a ruler and stuff, it's like that's not that's not bad
That's boyfriend dick right there
You know the term boyfriend dick I do keep up with okay
You had the most huge clip on Ryan's podcast, Ryan Pownall.
Yes, and I went in there telling so many stories.
I told so many crazy stories.
I didn't think that was anything.
Like I, did you see the clip?
No.
You didn't?
No, but Damon Dice told me about it.
I thought that was like the most amateur story,
like whatever story.
Like I did not think that would get people so heated,
but that's still, like it got posted the other day and it has like 36 million views and everyone's just like wishing
that's death threats in it. Like this person like telling me I should die and be stoned,
bring back stoning, like guys like they'll say the craziest things about about me on that thing.
It made them so mad. What'd you say? So, and this was like a tame story. So I just, I really was
shocked by this, but yeah, it's, it goes crazy.
But I just told a story about how,
cause we were talking about cheating or something.
And I was, this is before porn,
but so I was doing this even back then,
but I wanted to go fuck my ex.
So I was laying next to my boyfriend at the time,
but he was shitty, first of all.
So I wanted to go cheat and go fuck my ex.
So I snuck out of bed while we were like,
he was sleeping next to me and I successfully like got out. I drove down to the gas station, met my ex. So I snuck out of bed while he was sleeping next to me. And I successfully got out.
I drove down to the gas station,
met my ex-boyfriend at the gas station.
We had sex in his Tahoe real quick
and he netted in me, right?
And then I went back home.
But when I got home, I didn't wanna shower
and do all that because if my boyfriend woke up
and I'm showering in the middle of the night,
it's kinda sus, right?
So I just kinda wiped off, went pee real quick,
and then laid back in bed.
As I'm getting in bed, it's waking him up a little bit
that I'm moving and then he comes over to me, it's like, you know, waking him up a little bit that I'm moving,
and then he comes over to me and he's,
we're like, he wants to have sex.
So he goes down on me after this,
as I have my exes come in me,
and then he's like, you taste so good.
Oh my God.
And literally, like, I held that in for so many years.
I never told, like, anyone.
And when I said this, the guy reached out to me and knew it was him.
He knew it was him, he's like,
please don't tell me it was him.
It was him.
He knew it was him and I'm like, yeah, sorry.
But when people are sending me death threats,
I'm like, he liked the taste, okay?
He said he liked it, it's not like he hated it,
but he did like, my exes come.
Damn, so you were doing back to backs with different people.
Yeah, but I had to with my boyfriend
because if I turned him down,
he would be like a little, hmm.
Little suspicious.
So I just went with it and.
Wow.
I didn't know he was gonna eat me out.
You were sneaky.
Yeah, that was savage for sure.
Yeah, wild.
But I didn't plan it like that, you know.
I thought he was just gonna stay asleep.
It happens, right?
It happens.
Yeah, well, Carmen, where can people find you?
Find the course and find the book and everything?
So Instagram at Carmen Karma.
And then I'm not even gonna talk about TikTok.
Just try to search for it and find me there.
But the course is OF-Millionaire.com.
Cool.
It'll be in my Instagram bio and stuff,
but that's like my main focus this year
is just going all into that and helping people make money.
Well, I have most of the guys watching this,
but if there's any girls, check out the course, right?
Maybe guys can do it too.
I feel like guys can do it,
but you would have to like know
that you're advertising to guys.
Cause girls don't be throwing around crazy money
like guys do.
So you're just gonna have to, you know,
show off to the men, but you can,
you can make money like that.
Oh yeah.
All right, we'll link below.
Thanks for coming on.
Okay, thank you.
Thanks for watching guys.
See you next time
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