Digital Social Hour - Overcoming Addictions, Battling Depression, and Winning the Super Bowl I Steve Weatherford DSH #458
Episode Date: May 9, 2024Steve Weatherford comes to the show to talk about his journey of overcoming addictions, battling depression, and winning the Super Bowl. APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://forms.gle/D2cLkWfJx46p...DK1MA BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: Jenna@DigitalSocialHour.com SPONSORS: Deposyt Payment Processing: https://www.deposyt.com/seankelly LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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are saying okay well how did you go to the nfl and do all these different things if you got chased
off the field well the very next day sean i came back to practice and i had five cans of copenhagen
and i offered that to mike Mike Canada as a peace offering.
I said, hey, would you accept this as my apology?
I really want to be on the team.
Mike accepted that.
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and here's the episode. Ladies and gentlemen, the most jacked NFL kicker of all time,
Steve Weatherford in the building. Man, it's good to be in here with you.
To be introduced that way, it's like, man, dude, you're the sharpest guy on the short bus.
Typically, kickers and punters don't spend any time in the weight room, but man, it's like man dude you're the sharpest you're the sharpest guy on the short bus typically kickers and punters don't spend any time in the weight room but man it's good to be with you i'm so
impressed by the studios and got to meet some of your team uh in the back man so it's it's great
that we're finally getting to connect um and i thought it was really funny i'll share this with
everybody that's watching right before we came on he goes oh man i'm so glad that you're in here
he's like man you were on my fantasy team when i was in high school i won that season too thank you
i know you know if somebody takes time to even pick a punter man i sure appreciate you thanks
for picking me it's good to be on your show man dude were you this jacked while you were punting
too um you know i got really obsessed with fitness i think probably
around like eight or nine years old when i saw rocky four for the first time so i was definitely
in better shape than than the other punters when when i was in the nfl but in high school i played
four sports damn in college i did too um so i was really an athlete that wanted to play a professional
sport because it was like my childhood dream and the older that I got and the more you don't get
to pick your gifts right and so definitely I feel like God blessed me to be athletic but you don't
necessarily get to pick the skill that you're going to get to go pro in right and so many
different things need to happen but the more that i pursued becoming a better athlete and playing just as many sports as i
could there was one day where the varsity coach walked onto the soccer field and this is in
tarahoe indiana and he asked the coach if if they had anybody with a strong leg because he needed a
field goal kicker and at the time sean i was like 108 pounds as a freshman in high school but I had really strong leg so long story short the coach
asked me to kick a football and if I can kick it and he said just kick it through that h and I
thought to myself Sean I'm like the ball's not moving there's no goalie this is pretty easy so
I go and I smash the ball through the very next day I show up at 108 pounds we had white
helmets so I was so skinny and then you put a helmet on top of my head I looked like a golf
ball with a t for a body and my very first ever in if or my very first ever varsity kick and this
is everybody's dream to be to be on the varsity team know, to be able to wear your jersey to the game on Friday.
And we had a guy, the toughest, biggest guy in our school.
His name was Mike Canada.
He's 275 pounds, just big, round belly, chewed tobacco.
I mean, he was just a bad dude.
And he was my long snapper.
And then our quarterback was the holder.
And I remember being so nervous because the whole team was in front of me
and the coach said, here's our new kicker.
And so I'm like, man, this is my shot, Sean.
So Mike Canada snaps the ball.
Chris Farr puts the ball down,
and I remember charging at the ball with everything that I have,
and I remember kicking it.
And I don't know if anybody's a golfer or a baseball player,
but when you make perfect contact, it just feels so good.
So I just remember, remember man I crushed it in about a half a second later
I hear Mike Canada scream and stand up grab his right butt cheek turn around and start running
after me because I did kick that ball really well Sean but because I'm a soccer player it never got
more than two feet off the ground and I tattooed Mike Canada on his right butt cheek. And the first time that I ever had an organized team field goal,
which is the thing that like it's part of the reason that you know who I am
is because my career went up from then.
But I got chased off of the field the first time that I tried it.
And so I say that really as an encouragement for everybody that's listening to this podcast.
You may have tried a lot of things
and maybe you got shut down or maybe you haven't tried the thing that God has gifted you for.
The first time I felt like God that I did the thing that I was gifted for, looking back on it
now, I got chased off of the field. I got ridiculed. I got persecuted. And people are saying,
okay, well, how did you go to the NFL
and do all these different things if you got chased off the field?
Well, the very next day, Sean, I came back to practice,
and I had five cans of Copenhagen.
And I offered that to Mike Canada as a peace offering.
I said, hey, would you accept this as my apology?
I really want to be on the team.
Mike accepted that, and for the rest of the year, I was his guy.
So I say those things to say, be persistent.
You never know what you're gifting.
And this is kind of like for you, Sean.
I was talking to Bobby afterwards, and he was kind of telling me a little bit more about you
and kind of like why you've been successful.
And he's like, man, he's just a great networker.
Like he's a good friend to people.
He connects the dots.
And he's like a visionary, but also a guy that that can be a strategist and and as a strategist it's a strategy
that includes other people and so i'll say this and then i'm sure that you have a some questions
and things but i i recently saw this painting that really spoke to me about a month ago and
as bobby was telling me about
what kind of person you are, I kind of connected the dots in similarity. For a lot of my life,
Bobby, or a lot of my life, Sean, if you look at my Wikipedia page, I've been doing my best to
build my own world, right? Taking the gifts that God has given me to get the house, to get the car, to build my body, to become popular,
to become famous. I mean, part of how you know me was because of a pursuit of something that I
thought would give me worth and identity. And so for 36 years, I was feeding myself with my gifts.
And in this painting that I saw six weeks ago, it's called The Allegory of Long Spoons,
and it's a picture of heaven, and it's a picture of heaven and it's a picture of hell and the picture of heaven is the table for 12 and everybody's
sitting around it and they've got long spoons and there's a giant table like a thanksgiving feast
and everybody's like fat and happy and joyful and the picture is really bright and then you look at
a picture of hell and it's the same scenario it's a table for 12 all of the
food is right there but everybody that's sitting at the table they're like emaciated they're
depressed and everything is gray and that was like it was an epiphany for me five years ago
i had like a radical encounter with god and it was in that moment that i realized that i had been
using this long spoon to feed myself and And I was like, I was wasting away
because everything was about me.
Wow.
And when I had this moment,
I realized that the point of life is to identify your gift
and then to give it away.
And so for the last five years,
I've been having conversations with people
and I've been shifting the way that I use the gifts
that I feel like God has given me.
And my marriage has shifted and turned around some of the areas of my own development that I was stuck. And those things
begin to shake and shake and loosen. And now I look at life not 90 days at a time, not quarter to quarter, not even year to year.
I feel like I've got an ultimate picture of what I want my life to look like at the very end.
And I feel like from that moment five years ago up until now, it's just me filling in the dots.
Incredible.
So thanks for letting me share that.
No, that's incredible.
Do you think the fame of being a pro athlete kind of got to you for a bit i'll answer that question but i i want to make sure
that the allegory of long spoons i relate that back to you and what i'm hearing bobby say about
you is man he's just taking all of these different things that he has in his network and he's
connecting things together and things are happening right um and you're you're
using one of your giftings of either building relationship or providing value to relationship
that is actually helping other people to win um so i don't know where you were a few years ago
but i know these last couple years it's like a lot of successes coming your way um i'm actually curious to ask you what are the what
are the two or three things for you that maybe you've identified as a gift and and how do you
use those to bless other people wow that that is sick i'd say providing value so all my relationships
i'm providing value yeah okay and it doesn't have to be on a money level it could just be like oh
if you need a certain thing
in an aspect of your life.
Yeah, just connecting.
I'm a master connector.
Because of the podcast, because of me going to conferences,
I've established hundreds of connections.
Now in my head, it's my job to connect the dots almost.
If someone needs something, I'm one degree away from someone
and I'm just like a master connector.
Also, my ability to learn.
I think I spend hours a day learning and I think some people neglect that.
After school, they stop learning, right?
But I love learning.
So that's kind of been able to separate me from everyone else as well.
And I think communication, which I used to suck at.
So I was a huge introvert growing up, massive.
My parents got divorced, grew up without a dad pretty much,
and I was super shy.
And I honestly couldn't even talk to a girl.
It was that bad.
But just forcing myself to go to events and learning how to talk,
that was a skill that took a while to develop.
How did you, I'm sure people are wondering,
and then sure you can ask me a question,
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episode guys what was it that happened or what was it like a decision that you made that you're like, I know that like by default I'm this way, but I don't want to be this way anymore.
What was the thing that like got you to your first conference or like helped you to make a decision?
I would say it was the, I had a panic attack where I collapsed to my floor in my college dorm room.
And I was like, I didn't even know what that was.
And I was like, wow. So from there i got prescribed xanax i was on that for two months straight and it was
awful uh ended up having a seizure because uh when you stop taking it cold turkey your body's
not used to that so that moment for me cut out every single drug from there, drinking, everything, and just focused.
Like cut out all the distractions.
So what I'm hearing you say, there was a defining moment and an experience that happened in my life,
and I made a decision that I don't want that anymore.
A near-death experience, yeah, really shapes you up.
Wow.
Crazy, right?
What kind of thoughts?
You say a near-death experience. what kind of thoughts you see in your death
experience what kind of thoughts were you thinking i wanted to call my parents and tell them goodbye
and that's what i was thinking and i was 20 21 or 22 years old right crazy right right so it sucks
that it has to get to that because you hear this story with near-death experiences and it takes
that point to get to people and i think we should be able to get
to that point earlier you know yeah those were questions that i had like so much in my life
like what happens after we die because i grew up in church sean but i grew up in a like a really
like it's hard to describe but just like a really strict church and they talked about like hell a
lot they talked about the commandments they talked about hell a lot. They talked about the commandments.
They talked about don't have sex before you get married.
I knew those things really well, but looking back on it now,
I had such a skewed perception and I guess I would say opinion of God
because I feel like we all draw our view of God from the experience that we have
with our earthly father right I had a really great dad my parents are still married I've never heard
I've never seen my dad drink or smoke and he hasn't they didn't have sex that they got married
like they're they're just like great great people right and and I feel like i've i'm just by default i'm not like them right and i felt like
from like a really young age that i didn't fit in in my family and my dad is a wonderful dad i have
a great relationship with him but he was old school and when i say old school i mean if you
made a mistake you paid the consequence right there was there was a
punishment yeah it was very firm and it was very fair never got abusive or anything like that but
i always knew like if i made a mistake and my dad knows about it i'm gonna pay a price and so i began
to hide my mistakes from my dad and i believe like walking into like becoming a teenager then
becoming a man and a father and starting to achieve some things,
all of the mistakes that I was making, I was hiding from God because I thought like,
man, like if I reveal this to God, like he's going to punish me. And so I really grew up in like
a religion with God and God never created any of us to be in a religion with God. And so
I'm kind of sharing those things with you to give you a little bit of context from
kind of like how I grew up.
You revealed and shared, like, I didn't grow up with a dad.
And I did grow up with a dad, right?
But I still, even like you probably when you were younger, you're like, man, I wish this
divorce and I don't want to speak for you.
But I get to be a part of men's lives.
And we talk about this a lot because
the things, the defining moments that have happened earlier in our life,
they affect how we think now and also what we think is possible in the future. I feel like
God gives us three types of vision or three types of sight, hindsight, insight, and foresight,
right? Like how we view what happened in the past, how we view right now, and how we view what the future could
be. And I believe that a lot of our experiences as children really mold and solidify what we think
is possible as adults. And I put God in this box that God was a punisher, and there were consequences
to my problems. And I really
didn't feel like I fit in in church. I remember getting kicked out of Sunday school nearly every
Sunday. Who gets kicked out of Sunday school? And also it was confirmed when I went to kindergarten,
27 kids in my class, Sean, I get kicked out five days in a row. I have to think to myself,
I know I don't fit into my family. I know I don't fit in in church, but maybe if I go to
kindergarten with there's 26 other people, there's got to be at least one other weirdo in here, right? But there wasn't. And I got sent
to the principal's office. It was in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, where they could spank you without
calling your parents, right? Back in the 80s. And plus it's Louisiana. It's like the Wild West.
So I associated how I was with bad and that bad created pain.
Every time that I got set apart, pain was inflicted upon me.
And so I really began to like hate myself.
And so maybe your dad wasn't there.
My dad was there, but he was ill-equipped, right?
Because he grew up with like a Clint Eastwood type of dad that didn't like rub you and hug
you and tell you, I love you.
I'm proud of you.
This is who you are because that's what fathers do is they give us our identity and so when a defining moment for me sean was when i
was 11 years old man i went to it's called a power team concert it's this huge strength concert where
for like an hour and a half they do some of the craziest things that you've ever seen like stacks
of brick that are seven feet tall and they crush them them. They'll take two-inch steel bars of
rebar and bend them over their head. They'll take hot water balloons and blow them up.
And then the final act, there was this guy that came out and broke handcuffs in front of us,
and he said, these chains represent the bondage that the enemy, that the devil has on you.
And just like Jesus' blood, I'm going to break these chains.
And he counted down from 10 to one. He broke the chains. He put his hands up. And I grew up loving wrestlers like Macho Man Randy Savage, the Ultimate Warrior. They just like, I love that.
But my dad was like, those men are all about themselves. And he's right. He's right. But then
I saw this guy that's talking about the same Jesus, but he's six foot six and he's freaking
jacked.
And I'm like, wait a second.
I didn't even think these types of things were allowed in a church.
And here's this guy that's talking about the same Jesus from my church,
but he's got a tank top on in a church, and he looks like Hulk Hogan.
And so he said, if you want to belong to God,
if you want to be forgiven of your sins,
and you want Jesus to come into your heart,
I want you to raise your hand right now. Sean, I raise both of my hands. I'm like, I want that
Jesus. And I remember for the next six months, man, I just, everything felt right. My mom didn't
have to tell me to read the Bible. She didn't have to tell me to say my prayers. I belong to God,
right? And then about six months later, I had a teacher that was just the most encouraging guy
that I ever had in my life.
And without going into great detail, man, he wasn't encouraging me or giving me my identity.
He was grooming me.
About six months into that, I was sexually abused by a male teacher,
and it brought up so many questions about God.
I grew up in a church that didn't feel like I belonged,
and then all of a sudden I had this radical, defining moment, so many questions about God, right? Like I grew up in a church, didn't feel like I belong.
And then all of a sudden, like I have this radical defining moment and I make a decision for Jesus, just like you made a decision.
Like I don't want to live this way anymore.
And the root of the word decision actually means to cut off.
And so I cut off who I used to be and stepped into this new person
because I'm believing that the God that they're talking about is real
and that he's good.
And so when that same God let that man steal my innocence and bring questions up for me,
is God real? If he's real, is he really good? And does this make me gay? And so I was stuck
with those questions. And because I didn't have intimacy with my dad, my dad was there,
but I have intimacy with him. I didn't bring those questions to him and so
you know six months after being abused i'm introduced to and i've got like this little
closet thing that like nobody knows about but like watching sex is exciting right so then i begin to
have that coping mechanism of anytime i'm feeling lonely any anytime i'm feeling broken anytime i'm
like frustrated or angry i have this thing that I go watch,
and it makes all these fireworks go off in my brain, and I like it.
But I know that I'm not supposed to like it because I grew up in the church, but I'm thinking
to myself, I grew up in the church, but since these things happened to me, is God real,
and does he really love me?
And so I really dove into Sean achieving, right?
So that's why I played four sports in high school.
I started high school at 108 pounds wow like you introduced me as like the most jacked dude but that was born out
of massive secure insecurity dang right so then when God like really captured and arrested my
heart five years ago now I use what was born out of insecurity as like an attention grabber because
it's probably the first thing that you noticed about me was like
my my physical authority but like i'm hoping that note that people notice when when my abs or my
arms grab their attention that like i'm here for one simple message like you guys asked me before
i came on here hey is there anything that you want to promote or that you want to like mention for
to sell i'm like no man like i came here to like create a friendship with sean and and to speak
one simple message that is that i've tried every single thing that there is for fulfillment i've
made millions of dollars i've won a super bowl i said i set a record in the super bowl right the
greatest the greatest night of my life was also the most empty night of my life wow you're a giants fan february 5th 2012
remember that day super bowl 46 lucas oil stadium indianapolis indiana dude i'm from tarahote it's
47 miles from my high school everybody i spent 14 grand in tickets everybody that i could afford to
bring to the game i brought to the game until i couldn't buy any more tickets and anybody that
wasn't at the game was watching on tv 124 million people wow and had the
greatest game of my life every time that tom brady went onto the field after a punt it was like the
eight yard line the six yard line the four yard line the two yard line and i say that giving glory
to god but even that even that night i remember going back to my hotel room sean by myself and
was the first moment that i had by myself and i hear a noise up at the window i walk up i look
down looks like marty girl people are so happy and then I noticed they don't have Giants jerseys on.
They're just happy to be where Super Bowl
or something great happened.
I'm 17 flights up on a contract.
You're knowing a month later,
I'm going to sign a massive deal
for multi-millions of dollars.
And I won a Super Bowl and I had the greatest game.
Everything that I could ever wanted.
Man, when I was a kid, I wanted to make a million dollars.
Now they're about to give me four million
for signing a piece of paper.
And I'm thinking about these things
and a massive wave of depression comes over me.
Wow.
Because I've done what I thought
that I could never do,
but I don't feel different, right?
So I don't know what these last couple of years
have been like for you,
but you're achieving some of the things
I would assume, Sean,
that you never thought that you would achieve.
And I'm,
I'm here.
I feel like to speak to you,
but also to speak to everybody else that like loves you and believes in you
and just sees you blessing people and bringing things together and teaching
is I've experienced so much of what the world has to offer in women,
in drugs.
I mean,
since I was like 12 years old,
I've been addicted to. And when I say addicted,
not like I'm watching it seven times a day, it's like I continue to watch it and I know it's not
good for me. That's an addiction. Right. Right. I've also been addicted to pills. Right. I've
I've made some like mistakes that I used to be so ashamed of. I used to have so much regret about.
And I thought achieving and getting notoriety or
popularity would like make something shift or change in me because maybe maybe i just haven't
achieved it yet but dude i was the fittest man in the nfl not once but twice i was like oh man i
make my whole life about me after i win a superboy and let me let me be the most philanthropic man in
the nfl it's called the walter payton man the Year Award. I got nominated for that too. So I'm like, looking back on my life at 41, it was like I was checking
boxes, but I was checking boxes because in my mind I wasn't enough because after the Super Bowl,
people would be telling me how amazing I am. But I made up in my mind because the enemy's whispering,
these people knew what happened to me when i was 12 they knew about like my 30
little secret if they knew about when i lied and when i cheated they could never love me
and i feel like that's what the enemy wants men to do and not just men but
everybody is he wants you to convince you that you're so unique that nobody would understand
and nobody's ever struggled with what it is that you're struggling with. And I feel like the ultimate goal of so many men,
and it's biblical, is we're all desperate to be known, to be fully known, and to be fully loved. And I feel like God is the only place that I have ever turned to.
And I didn't mean to turn to him the way that I did, but he found me.
And he changed my identity.
He changed my personality.
He became real to me that all of the questions that I had before this
experience, is God real? I knew that he was real, Sean that all of the questions that I had before this experience is God real.
I knew that he was real, Sean is God good. I knew that he was good, overwhelmingly good. And I also
knew that he operated outside of time. So that happened four years and 11 months ago. And since
that moment, I take every opportunity that I have to come on to a platform like this to help people
to see that maybe some of the boxes that you feel
like you need to check off in life are going to make you worthy, are going to make you lovable.
I just want to cancel that expectation that you have because your life can't be lived trying to
feed your own self, kind of the allegory of the spoons and in the in the
bible it says there's it's called the royal law it's real simple to love your neighbor as much
as you love yourself and for 36 years i didn't love myself i was like dirty i was broken i was
like all these things so if i couldn't love myself how am i really gonna love my wife or my friends right and and i say these things to say like i know that i'm i'm not alone like i know that
there are people that that are in that in that process in that cycle right now of man just having
like certain part parts of themselves that they like package up and put into like the dark basement
of their life and they just don't reveal those to anybody and the enemy loves that because it's like mold right and in
scripture it says if you confess your sins one to another there's freedom in that so i'll pause
there because i know that that was a lot but thanks for letting me know that was so amazing
so many questions but um you met i know we only have 30 minutes so i'm trying to like dump it on
you man we got six left so let me rapid fire some you mentioned you struggled finding
your identity do you feel like a lot of men struggle finding their identities 100 none of
our dads are perfect right so like even my dad never cheated on my wife he never drank he didn't
smoke he coached my soccer team right but because of his father that came
before him he was ill-equipped to love me how i needed to be loved he loved my other brothers and
sisters how they needed to be loved because he's equipped that way but i was actually a little boy
that needed that touchy feely love like that's one of my love languages is physical touch and
words of affirmation right and my dad wasn't touchy and he wasn't a words of affirmation guy,
but he was so consistent. He was so faithful in his mind.
That's how he was loving me. And he was doing a great job,
but he was incomplete. So to your story or to your question, absolutely.
Like, unless we,
unless we shift off of the relationship that we have with our earthly father
and begin to create not a religion,
a relationship with our heavenly father that will give us unconditional love.
That's what Jesus is all about.
Like Jesus came to pay for our sins, right?
And I feel like when I made a decision for Jesus at 11, it was like, so I don't go to
hell, right?
But then the next 25 years, i went on a journey to like
experience the world and everything that it has to offer and and after experiencing so much of it
in so many rooms with so many like just like you you're getting in the rooms with some of the like
some of your heroes and i'm not even talking about me i'm talking about like some of these
other guys that you have on here and you're probably noticing like you're kind of like me you know
they've got debt they've got father wounds as well um and i believe that's my calling that's
my mission is to be an interruption in men's lives an interruption in families lives to tell
them that there's only one way to permanent change. I've spent thousands of dollars
in psychotherapy, acupuncture, everything that you can think, hypnotherapy, pills, you know, like
prescribed pills for nothing, man. And then I went to a men's conference in the desert
in San Diego four years and 11 months ago, a church called Awaken puts this
event on. And you've heard of church people talking about, oh, the Father, the Son, and the
Holy Spirit, right? Well, it's God the Father. It's Jesus the Son, but then it's the Holy Spirit.
I have never experienced the Spirit of God. That's what the Holy Spirit is on the earth the way that
I did when I was at this event. And when the Holy Spirit hit me, I knew that God was real. I knew that he was good because
of the overwhelming joy and peace that I was experiencing. And it was in that moment that I
decided to not just repent of my sins and ask Jesus to come into my heart so I could not go to hell.
I did that because I had experienced God's power and his glory,
and I wanted to do that.
And so for the last four years and 11 months,
I feel like I have finally gotten off of mission,
of achieving things, and on to purpose.
And my purpose is to take what God has given me and to feed those
across the table for me. So I know that I wish I had more time to share with you, but I pray that
this serves you and I pray that this serves everybody that's here. Would it be okay if I
ended this in prayer? Yeah, let's do it. Yeah. Okay, good, man. Thanks for having me on here.
Absolutely. Are we going to end right on time? Yeah. Do a prayer. Okay, good. That'd be great.
Definitely, Father, thank you for this day. God, we just thank you for this platform. God,
we thank you for Sean. And God, we just ask that you would extend the territory that you've given
him. God, that you would activate the anointing on his life. And God, we just ask that this message
today wouldn't be something that people would hear from a man. God, that your Holy Spirit would speak
to people. God, that you would plant a seed of wisdom inside of them and god that that seed would have laborers to come alongside of it
god to help accelerate the healing to accelerate the growth god that you would get all of the
glory and it's in jesus name that we pray amen amen wow powerful thanks so much for coming on
steve thanks for having me man we're going to spend some more time together absolutely dude
i love it.
Hey, Jersey strong.
Jersey strong, baby. Thanks for watching, guys, as always. We'll see you next time.