Digital Social Hour - Overcoming PTSD, Leaving the US & Graduating from Harvard I John H Davis DSH #386
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Metrically opposed to one another.
The soldier sacrifices, the politician profits.
The soldier respects their enemies, the politician hates their enemies.
So there's a popular saying in the military that the soldier doesn't fight because he hates what's in front of him.
They fight because they love what's behind them.
And I think veterans and politicians don't get along because politicians hate what's in front of them and disregard what's behind them.
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and here's the episode. All right, guys, we got former veteran here, John Davis, and he's doing some interesting things in the veteran community. I can't wait to talk about it with you, man.
I'm really excited to talk about the expat life. I feel like now we get a lot of attention
about people moving from New York and California to Texas, but nobody talks about the large
contingent of Americans that are moving abroad. Right. So talk to me about the business model
there, because basically if you make a hundred K a year in America, compare that to like
Dominican or Thailand or something. For me as a veteran, you can take a military there because basically if you make a hundred K a year in America, compare that to like Dominican
or Thailand or something. For me as a veteran, you can take a military pension and live in the
top 1% of a lot of different countries. I live in Dominican Republic and I like to talk about
Dominican Republic because it's the only country in the entire world with the Bible on its flag.
God, family, community are extremely important in people's day-to-day lives.
And that's really a refreshing thing to veterans.
So now you're seeing more and more veterans start to move abroad.
In Dominican Republic now, we have over 20,000 American veterans that live there.
Wow.
Yeah, it's actually kind of incredible, and it's something that's going to continue to grow,
and that's why I'm really excited to talk about it.
Yeah, that's incredible.
So walk me through the process.
Do you need to get a citizenship to pull this off? Every country is a little bit different. Dominican
Republic is one of the most, I would say the most friendly country to veterans and living abroad.
One, one reason I love talking about it is because you can live so much healthier.
Right. So I stopped needing the PTSD medication that I had been on for years. I started sleeping
through the night. I stopped getting the migraines that I suffered from since I was in Afghanistan.
And you can also live way healthier.
I'm outside more.
Americans spend 90% of our time indoors.
I'm eating fresh, healthier food, not necessarily the processed poison that we eat in America.
And that's when it kind of hit me.
Maybe it's not me.
It's my environment.
So maybe the American environment is just toxic.
So when I changed my environment, it really changed my life.
And then you take other factors into consideration.
The political division and the cost of living
is driving more and more veterans to leave America.
They can't even afford a house once they get back home.
No, and we're on a fixed income when you get out of the military.
A lot of veterans retire on a fixed income,
and that income is going to go a lot further a lot of other places.
And a lot of veterans don't really like living in a country that feels like it's at war with itself.
I think the political division is really making a lot of veterans rethink where they want to live and what they want to do.
Right.
So there's no division in Dominican.
It's all just kind of united.
You're separated from it.
You're just separated from the American political division.
The soldier and the politician as archetypes
are kind of like diametrically opposed to one another.
The soldier sacrifices, the politician profits.
The soldier respects their enemies,
the politician hates their enemies.
So there's a popular saying in the military
that the soldier doesn't fight
because he hates what's in front of him.
They fight because they love what's behind them.
And I think veterans and politicians
don't get along because politicians hate
what's in front of them
and disregard what's behind them.
How long were you in Afghanistan?
I did two deployments to Afghanistan
and then I came back
and I initially tried working within the system when it came to
veteran advocacy I worked as a legislative fellow where I drafted created and pitched uh legislation
to congress on veteran issues and this experience woke me up because I realized our elected officials
don't give about us I went in. I remember one time meeting a congresswoman
from my home state of Iowa. I got my suit and my tie on. I'm going in to pitch this legislation
that I worked hard on. And I get introduced, hey, combat veteran, Harvard graduate, John Davis,
he's got this legislation for you. And I went in, I started talking. About 30 seconds in,
you know, she's texting. About a minute and a half in, she goes like, okay, thank you,
thank you for your service.
Can you email the rest of this to my assistant?
And right then I felt like I hit by a bomb.
You know, I was just like, man.
And it was such a wake-up call to me that as veterans, we can't rely on people like that to help us.
We can't rely on people like that to save us.
So that's when I wrote my first book for student veterans because a lot of people don't know this, but there are two distinct classes of people in the military.
You have officers and you have enlisted.
It's the same across all the branches, but these people have significantly different outcomes when they get out of the military.
Officers make more money.
Officers have PTSD less.
Officers get divorced less.
Officers are homeless less.
And officers kill themselves less. Officers get divorced less. Officers are homeless less. And officers kill themselves less. And the big difference between officers and enlisted is officers have a traditional,
traditionally have a college degree. So this college degree is critically important for
veterans to get. And that's why the first stop for so many veterans is college. And my legislation
that I pitched to Congress was about student veteran employment.
I wanted student veterans to be employed at their schools through the Veterans Administration.
But the legislation didn't get anywhere because I felt like I was just working within the system.
And writing eventually led me into the expat stuff because so many veterans feel disenfranchised by the country that they fought for.
Yeah. Do you feel like there's a lack of support for veterans once they come back?
I feel like there's a lack of understanding of the veteran experience.
And this leads veterans to feeling isolated in society.
As veterans, we are very communal people.
We believe in the power of community.
We believe in coming together.
And when we get out of the military, and we kind of find ourselves individualized in a fragmented society.
And veterans kind of struggle as to where we're going to fit in here.
So a lot of veterans, that's why moving abroad can offer veterans something that America might not be able to, and that's a fresh start.
Because there's something beautiful about a fresh start.
And so many veterans are just well-suited for living abroad
because a lot of veterans are first- and second-generation immigrants themselves.
Veterans are well-traveled, like Bobby,
who was stationed in Germany for several years.
So a lot of veterans who are stationed overseas get out of the military
and just stay there because they're experiencing a higher quality of life.
So I've been on this one-man mission to just talk to veterans about how we can live healthier, happier, higher quality, and more peaceful lives outside the United States.
Plus you have that community aspect, right?
You said there's 20,000 in the Dominican.
You probably have a tight circle out there of veterans.
Yeah, absolutely.
And disconnected from the United States, we don't talk politics.
You know, we go out to eat.
We talk about dating, travel, fitness, conspiracy theories.
We don't talk about like what's going on in the political world.
And veterans are usually like that because we want to be on the side of America, not necessarily Republicans or Democrats. So disconnecting from the hyper stressful environment
of the United States,
I think is something that can really help veterans out.
Yeah, I'm glad we're talking about college
because we have opposing viewpoints on college,
but I could see where you come from
and why it was important to you and also veterans now.
So it's cool to understand that.
So I went to Harvard
and the most important thing i learned at harvard i
think you'll agree with as veteran and veterans struggled to understand this the most important
thing i learned during my time at harvard was veterans prioritize competency performance
potential the the what of what you know but in the real world who you know matters a hell of a lot
more than what you know and veterans and business sometimes don't mix because of the veteran mentality
and our military conditioning.
I'll give you some examples.
Veterans will not quit jobs that they hate
because quitting just isn't really
in the military mentality.
Veterans won't ask for raises,
even if they deserve them,
because you can't ask for a raise in the military.
So some of this military conditioning
prevents veterans from being successful in business. But that's why events like what you put on, the networking events,
are something that's worth investing in, worth going to, and worth trying. Because after years
of serving in the military, veterans are just behind on networking. We're not really sure how
it works. That's true, because they're spending 5, 10, 20 years. And you're traveling around,
you're doing different things. So for veterans, networking is critically important.
But it's hard to know where to start.
And that's why I think college is a good place because I don't think college is a great place to learn a lot of stuff.
But college is a great place to develop who you're going to be and perform self-education while you're doing your real education.
Agreed. So when I talk to veterans, I'm like, absolutely go to college because what it provides is a bridge between
the military and the civilian world. It provides a measure of structure for veterans and opportunity
to kind of figure out who you're going to be post-service. Now, I know you didn't go to college
or you dropped out of college, right? I tried. I tried. Yeah. So I failed out of community college,
joined the military, and I ended up with a master's degree from Harvard. So that's why I wrote my book
because I want to share those experiences to other veterans.
But like I said,
I don't think the college is the be-all end-all.
And now the GI Bill recognizes that
and is giving veterans more and more opportunities
to perform different types of education,
apprenticeships, entrepreneurships,
and things like that.
That's cool.
Did the military pay for your college?
Yeah, totally.
Oh, nice.
Because Harvard is expensive.
Oh, crazy expensive.
I would not have paid for it if I wouldn't, I wouldn't have been able to pay for it. You know,
I think the one thing that I think is important that I've heard people talk about in your show is financial education and the lack of financial education in the United States. I think some
of the people that come on and talk about this kind of miss the forest to the trees and misdiagnose the issue.
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I'm saying this from an educational background.
The how and the
what are not important the why of financial education is sometimes the most important part
so why is america not teaching financial education and that's because do you think that an educational
establishment that wants you to pay three hundred thousand dollars to go to college wants you to
understand economics do you think the politician that makes 150 grand a year
but is worth 80 million wants Americans to understand economics? Do you think the IRS
wants you to understand taxes? Do you think Wall Street wants you to understand the stock market?
Do you think credit card companies want you to understand how credit works? Do you think
the military industrial complex wants you to understand the economics of warfare? Do you think
the pharmaceutical industry wants you to understand the economics of medicine?
No, no, no, no, no, and hell no.
They want to chain you to a form of economic enslavement because then they have you.
And once they shackle you to your debt, you can't fly.
You're just like Pac-Man on the ground, consuming, consuming, consuming, consuming until you die. And that's why the rich get richer and the poor get poorer because of lack of financial education and also the purposeful lack of financial education in the United States.
So I've taught in Thailand.
I've taught Cambodia.
I've been a part of educational projects in Africa.
And they teach financial education and entrepreneurial classes in grade school.
Wow.
That's awesome.
Yeah, I promise you.
And that's why.
So I talk to a lot of families about moving abroad now, which kind of surprised me.
Initially, I'm thinking, OK, mainly single guys who are going to move abroad.
But I've been inundated from messages from families, from female veterans about moving
abroad.
And I'll tell you, nine times out of 10, a private international education is superior to an American public education.
Wow.
I mean, it doesn't shock me if we're being frank.
Just what I witnessed, what I learned in school was nothing.
Yeah.
And overseas, I think the private international schools just have a grasp on trying to attempt to mold you into someone that's going to be successful later later in life, as opposed to successful in the next step in education.
Absolutely.
You also spoke at Congress, right?
Yep.
What was that like?
What were you trying to achieve with that?
Mainly all of my work centered around student veterans because that was what I was most passionate about.
You know, there's a big difference between people with college degrees and without college degrees.
Not you specifically, but generally people with college degrees make more money.
For sure.
And financial health is mental health.
All the veteran that I see that we study,
the majority of them struggle with the financial aspect of things.
And for me personally, I can understand financial stress can be just as bad as combat stress.
Wow.
And the veteran mix in business, like I mentioned,
just doesn't really work out.
So a lot of veterans who are struggling financially
would more benefit from things like coaching than therapy.
So that's what I started to provide for veterans
is coaching for student veterans.
Once I realized that a lot of veterans' problems
were wrapped up more into life
than necessarily the mental aspect of it.
If you start solving your problems, you're going to be better off. If you start solving your problems, you're going to be better off.
If you start making more money, you're going to be happier.
If you start creating wealth, you're going to have a higher quality life.
So those are the types of lessons that I wanted to provide to veterans
that I wanted to pass legislation for, but it completely blew up
and I didn't accomplish anything legislatively,
and that's what led to me trying to do my own advocacy work
to go outside the system to help veterans. And I stumbled what led to me trying to do my own advocacy work to go outside
the system to help veterans. And I stumbled on the living abroad thing just because I moved to
the Dominican Republic, swim in the ocean every day, and I was really happy. And my rent's 500
bucks a month. Wow. It's that cheap? It's that cheap. My first experience living abroad was in
Thailand. I was teaching English and I was looking for an apartment. This was years ago. And I go in and find a beautiful high rise.
And this guy shows me an apartment and he walks me around it.
And I'm like, okay, it's got a rooftop pool, nice gym.
I was like, how much?
He's like, 350.
350 what?
And he was like, dollars.
I was like, per week?
He's like, no, per month.
And then it hit me.
I was like, I'm a millionaire here.
And on my military retirement, i'm a millionaire here yeah you know and on my military
retirement i'm a millionaire here nuts and so i lived in thailand loved it and came back to the
states to go to harvard and then ended up in the dominican republic which i know and love and you
know dominican people are extremely friendly and welcoming being an american abroad people kind of
expect you to be kind of stupid yeah i think we have this culture where we're like, you know.
But moving abroad is something that changed my life.
And I want to share that message with other veterans who might be struggling,
but also veterans that just want to live a higher quality life.
It seems like a no-brainer to at least test it, go there for a week or two,
see if you could possibly live there, right?
Yeah.
And I always recommend to people, hey, just because you find a sweet house and you can buy it for like $100,000, don't do it.
Rent for a while first.
Get used to the area because there are difficulties moving abroad.
There are difficulties with anything. Yeah.
But the funniest thing, the thing I discovered stops more veterans from moving abroad is you can't have guns in other countries to the same extent you can have guns in the States.
Yeah.
So you can't have them in Dominican? You can have extent you can have guns in the States. Yeah, so you can't have them in Dominican.
You can have them, but it's a complicated process.
It's expensive.
It's not really worth it to go through it.
But the way I explain violence from the United States to abroad is the United States,
because a lot of people are concerned about safety going abroad.
It's kind of the first thing people talk about, especially veterans with kids or female veterans.
And violence in the United States is incredibly random.
I mean, we're here in Las Vegas, the site of an incredibly random attack.
Violence abroad kind of makes sense.
Like if there's fights on, we'll say, the Mexican border from the cartels.
Okay, they're fighting over a trillion dollar human trafficking and drug operation.
But violence in the States doesn't make sense.
You could be an old lady and get shoved in front of a subway. You can be stabbed on the street. You could be a mass
shooting in the school. It doesn't really make sense. But violence abroad, it's kind of like,
all right, you know, it's for a purpose. You know, people aren't killing each other in American
cities for a purpose. They're just killing each other. And that's the terrifying part is a
randomness. That makes sense. Are you in like a gated community with guards and stuff too? No,
no, no. I'm in the country. Wow. I'm i'm out there i'm out there you should have you come visit i mean
i don't know if that sounds sketchy bro but like you said it's targeted so that right okay and
there's expat areas compared to normal areas any country has their areas you shouldn't go into you
know even so i go to columbia a lot and columb Columbia has areas where you should avoid, but other areas that are very safe.
That makes sense.
So I think there's kind of a misperception on safety abroad because I personally feel a lot safer abroad than I do in the United States.
I don't blame you, man.
I lived in L.A. for a bit.
I felt so unsafe every day.
Walking around a major American city is super stressful.
And that's one reason I don't think veterans should live in cities.
I mean, if you can't look up and see the stars, you're in the wrong place.
Agreed.
And you have to be on edge in an American city.
You can't take a subway in New York and just be relaxed.
No, you're on edge.
You have to be on edge.
You have to be on your guard.
Not to mention the fact that veterans and stress, a city can really exacerbate ptsd because it has all the
symptoms of ptsd loud noises things that trigger you crime and then you have to see the worst side
of humanity and when i moved to the dominican republic i realized once like i just took i'm
on the beach just having a beer watching the sunset and i just take a deep breath you know
and how often do you just like
take a deep breath and be grateful to be alive in america i don't think that happens as much
because we're constantly going going going and that's why i'm talking to veterans that sometimes
a simple life is a better life because even if you win the rat race you're still a rat yeah you're
still insignificant out here living uh under god knows what yeah just being controlled in so many
different angles and moving abroad provided me a freedom that i want to share with other veterans
not only the freedom to live a higher quality life when it comes to money but also to work on myself
apart from the stress the united states of america because i think that in 2024 i think this year
people moving abroad is going to be a
bigger deal i could see it especially depending on the election more and more people are going
to talk about it no matter where it goes a lot of people are going to say i'm leaving the country
especially if trump loses yeah so and on my website i wrote i ended up writing an article
about living in dominican republic like a year. And I got such a positive response from
it that I was like, okay, I'm gonna do more. I went to Mexico, and I wrote an article about living
there. And I met with medical groups in Mexico, and I met with veteran groups in Mexico. And then
I went to Thailand, and I met with Veterans of Foreign Wars posts and American Legion posts over
there. And I started making social media videos about, hey, I'm on the beach in Dominican Republic,
and you're living in Boston or wherever else.
So, you know, getting that response has been awesome.
And then I wrote a veteran's guide to moving abroad and made it free on my website.
So then veterans can read how to move abroad, steps, pros and cons, and all that to really dive into it.
What's the tax in Dominican?
The tax is incredibly low compared to the United States.
So let me see how I can phrase it.
If you buy
a $400,000
house in the Dominican Republic, which would be
an enormous mansion, your taxes
on the house would be less than $500
a year. Damn. The property tax?
Yep, because you have full property rights
in the Dominican Republic.
That's one thing with moving abroad.
American taxes, after you move abroad
don't even make sense.
I mean, like what I paid for my house
I owned in New York
now honestly seems like a criminal enterprise.
Because you could go to Costa Rica tomorrow
and buy a house that's incredibly nice
and your taxes will be like 250 bucks a year.
So why would you,
if you are a veteran on a fixed income
or lots of my friends are like retired cops or also on fixed incomes, why wouldn't you live in a place that gives you the highest quality life possible?
Right.
New York, you're probably paying 10K a year in property tax.
I don't understand.
And a lot of veterans will say things like, I don't know how you afford to live in the Dominican Republic.
I'm like, I don't know how you afford to live in the States.
If you leave your house in America, you're paying $150.
Absolutely.
I got a cup of coffee this morning.
We're in Vegas.
Small cup of coffee, $6.
Sounds like Vegas.
Yes, Vegas.
So that's one thing when it comes to your economic health really plays into your mental health.
And when I wasn't worried about paying my rent, when I wasn't worried about the bills. I was able to do things I loved.
I was able to enjoy life, pursue hobbies and passions.
And one thing that I think is awesome about Veterans Abroad
is that veterans contribute to everywhere we're at.
You know, I work with a boxing program in the Dominican Republic
where we take kids off the street and teach them character,
discipline with a bunch of other U.S. veterans.
So we have all these cool programs.
We work with an orphanage down there. And there are so many resources for veterans abroad that veterans don't know about.
There are American Legion posts as close as Mexico and as far away as Thailand. So next month,
I'm going to Thailand where I'll be meeting with veteran groups, meeting with hospitals,
talking about veteran health care, and then continue to produce more content and information
to help veterans live that high quality life that they deserve nice so for your relocation program is
it only for veterans or can other people do it anyone could do it and it's not really a program
it's just me providing information based on uh based on my experiences but i have been surprised
at how many other people hit me up and be like i'm not a veteran but i want to get the hell out
of here i mean i don't blame them yeah And the people I meet abroad and the veterans I meet abroad are thriving. And a lot of the veterans I
meet in the States are surviving. Yeah. And I think that's kind of been a key difference. And
for me, I work from my computer and so many people just work online nowadays. Absolutely.
If you're on a minimum wage job in America, you're not going to be able to eat healthy.
You're going to be so stressed. Your housing situation is going to be really bad it's just not worth it man yeah and now
so many people are entirely working from their computers why wouldn't you want to work from
your computer in bali why wouldn't you want to live work from your computer in a dominican
republic why wouldn't you want to work from somewhere where you can connect with nature
in a greater sense? I think that's one thing that I experienced because the VA put me on every drug
underneath the sun, but moving to the Dominican Republic and swimming in the ocean every day
is what helped cure my PTSD. They say the ocean's actually really healing. They're doing studies on
this now. And back in the day, they used to prescribe ocean air as like a medical treatment really yeah i didn't know that victorian
england they used to produce they used to prescribe it like hundreds of years ago wow and say go live
by the ocean and that's why people that live near the water are healthier and have higher quality
lives because when you experience that ocean air when you can go out there and put your feet in the
sand i mean it really grounds you to your life.
It really grounds you to the things that are really important.
They say grounding is amplified in ocean water, actually.
And even a lot of the health and beauty treatments, they use ocean water in it.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
See, and yeah, seaweed stuff, right?
Seaweed wraps and things like that.
Yeah, I see that in spas.
So it's been really an incredible journey to go out there and talk to veterans about how they can improve their lives.
Because I think so many veterans in the United States are experiencing this kind of like crisis when they get out of the military.
Because it is harder and harder to adjust civilian life as the gap between the military and civilian population grows. And I think this is where veterans kind of fall into a trap
and end up in a place called veteran purgatory,
which is an unhealthy mental space
when you're out of the military,
but you don't feel comfortable in civilian life.
And for me, moving to the Dominican Republic,
reconnecting with religion,
reconnecting with nature was what helped me.
I mean, that's what I feel like saved me.
I hope to continue to save other veterans
with that moving abroad philosophy.
I love it.
So two tours in Afghanistan,
you mentioned you had PTSD from that.
What were some of the things you saw there
that really scarred you?
I think violence against children
is by far the hardest thing to deal with,
especially when it comes to things like
child sexual abuse which is
prevalent uh damn you saw that there i mean you don't see you see the effects of it wow you see
little kids wearing makeup walking around you know and i remember this one time i was like
why does this little boy have makeup on let's talk with the interpreter and he's like it's for
it's for the men i was like yeah but what's let's deal with that he goes it's for the men's pleasure
and i didn't understand when he met i'm like a naive 20-year-old kid.
I'm like, what do you mean by pleasure?
And he's like, it's sex.
They're going to have sex with him.
And seeing stuff like that really affected me,
I would say more so than any combat experiences.
Wow.
And so I wrote a letter to my grandmother,
who was a minister in my church growing up,
about the kind of difficulties I was dealing with with some of the emotional health stuff and so I wrote a letter to my grandmother who was a minister in my church growing up and about you
know the kind of difficulties I was dealing with with some of the emotional health stuff when I'm
like 20 years old she's not able to process it's kind of like information and she wrote me a letter
back and gave me some of the best advice I ever heard she's like John you can't change the world
you can't change Afghanistan just do three things every day do something nice for yourself something
nice for someone you love and something nice for a stranger and that's when i realized okay i don't need to like change
the world but i can have a positive impact on the people organizations and places i come to contact
with and that's why like the messages i've got from veterans who are like thank you so much for
you know providing this information i'm moving abroad I never contemplated just getting out.
Because I think most people aren't like,
I'll just move to Dominican Republic.
No, it's never a thought.
I never knew about it until I stumbled across your ad, man,
to be honest.
And there's a large contingent of veterans
that left after Vietnam
when they came back to the United States
and were mistreated and abused by the country.
A lot of them were like,
okay, I'll take my military benefits and I'll move.
And that's why even today,
you have a huge number of veterans
that live in Southeast Asia.
There's a huge contingent of veterans
that live in the Philippines and Thailand and Cambodia
and all those countries over there.
And the Philippines is the only place
outside the United States has a full VA hospital.
But in the Dominican Republic,
we have veteran centers that do veteran health care just for veterans. A lot of people are
unaware of this. So my website, I started writing about it because I received superior health care
paid for by the VA in the Dominican Republic than I did in the United States. When I was struggling,
when I was living in New York, I called for a mental health appointment. It was 24 days until my appointment.
Holy crap.
Wait times do not exist in the veteran clinics in Dominican Republic.
So these clinics treat service-connected and retired veterans.
If I want a mental health appointment, I'll go that day.
And I can get the same medications.
I can get the same treatments.
I started doing water therapy and chiropractic care in the Dominican Republic for my back.
And that has improved me so much.
So a lot of veterans are unaware
that they can get their healthcare
outside the United States.
That's probably another question you get a lot.
How's the healthcare system?
And the reality is a lot of people think America
is like the be all end of healthcare.
If that was true,
then we wouldn't lead the world in chronic diseases.
America's not. And what's cool about Dominican Republic and other countries is that
healthcare is so cheap. If I want a medication, I can just go to the pharmacy and get it.
In the United States, if you want a medication, you got to see a doctor, you got to see a pharmacist,
you got to deal with insurance, and they're going to bill you like crazy. So a lot of veterans are
so surprised because they're like, yeah, I need this blood pressure medication.
And in the Dominican Republic, for like a three-month supply of the medicine, it's like 15 bucks.
But in the United States, it's like 400 bucks.
Yeah, it's nuts.
Yeah.
So the American health care system is broken.
And veterans can get such better health care abroad through some of these veteran centers.
So I've been writing about it.
And I think we have five healthcare centers just for veterans
in the Dominican Republic.
Wow.
That serves the 20,000 veterans that live there.
That's sick, man.
They also put on community events.
We have a Veterans Day black tie affair.
We have boat parties that we go on.
We go out and do bicycle therapy, nature therapy, all this cool stuff with the veteran groups. So for me, I think the
community of veterans abroad is maybe even more welcoming and friendly than in the United States,
because we're all veteran expats who came there. We all kind of feel the same about certain things.
So I've been able to make like a ton of awesome friends of veterans abroad.
You're living like a king out there, man.
Yeah, which isn't a bad deal. Hey, hey you can if you're on a veteran retirement military retirement you can be poor in america or rich
abroad the american dream is alive it's just not america hit this up hit this man up man instead
of going to rehab centers out here and living terribly yeah and i'd like to get into mental
health treatment abroad for state for veterans like create some type of like mental health
retreats in different countries where veterans can go there and do mental health so i'm hoping to develop that in the future that's
needed man yeah because these guys don't want to share their traumas after what they see right
no i mean and sometimes you have to release it and sometimes it takes disconnecting from the
united states to do it you know if the government broke you maybe the fix is elsewhere yeah maybe
your fix is a beach in Thailand.
Maybe your fix is in the Dominican Republic.
It would definitely help, man.
Something about nature is very healing.
Yeah.
And now I think that hopefully people are opening up to the idea of the healing power of nature.
So I went to Japan to do research on some project I'm doing about the healing power of nature for veterans.
And in Japan, they have these nature trails that are set up specifically for healing.
So what they do is they take your blood pressure before you go on them, and then they take
your blood pressure and stuff when you come back.
You can see the medical results of just walking in nature.
No way.
Now in Korea, in Japan, in Sweden, doctors are prescribing nature time on a medical pad.
That's so cool.
Whereas America, the first is medication.
If that doesn't work, more medication.
If that doesn't work, we alter the medication.
And veterans have been on this like medication merry-go-round since the towers went down.
And more and more veterans, I hope, are going to wake up to the idea of
things like living outside because like i mentioned americans spend 90 of our time indoors
and that obviously leads to some of our mental health struggles and in dominican republic i'm
outside all day you know living in the sun is such in the ocean air but you know by the water
is so healing.
I'm going to come visit you, man.
This sounds like paradise.
We'll have a party.
You had to learn Spanish, didn't you?
Yeah, my Spanish is pretty good.
So that does stop a lot of veterans from moving abroad is the language barriers.
And that's why you see a lot of veterans in like Belize or Panama or the Philippines where a lot of people speak English.
In the Dominican Republic, I learned Spanish because I started dating Spanish girls
and arguing with them.
So I'd be like, I'll just date Spanish girls, argue with them.
I'll figure it out.
Those Latinas, man.
Yeah.
I'm dating one, but I love it, dude.
Yeah.
Can't beat it.
But it's fiery.
So, you know, you kind of learn the language and then switch Netflix to Spanish.
And in like a year, you'll be good.
That's what I started doing, too.
That helped me learn. I took four years of Spanishanish class in high school didn't learn honestly started watching netflix and spanish learned so much yeah and the best way to learn a
language is immersion so you don't necessarily need to speak the language before you move somewhere
you know you'll pick it up a little bit when you go yeah when i lived in thailand i took one thai
class and i quit after 15 minutes i was was like, this is way too hard.
But Spanish makes a little more sense.
Hola and hello are pretty similar.
I feel that.
Talk to me about the five books, man.
So my book, Combat to College, is for student veterans.
This is for student veterans to be successful.
It's not just about getting good grades.
It's about some of the stuff we talked about, like networking, setting yourself for success after graduation.
This is my book on veteran affirmations.
So affirmations are a powerful mental health tool.
But this book is written for veterans, by a veteran, with military culture.
So I took military oaths, creeds, songs, all that from all the branches and made it daily affirmations for them from January 1st to December 31st.
This is my most recent book, which I'm pretty proud of.
It's Affirmations and Activities for Military Kids.
I had a friend of mine who I deployed with who I think in the total war on terror,
he spent like 10 years overseas, and his son ended up killing himself as a teenager.
I think that a lot of the attention
in the veteran community goes on the veteran, but we don't realize that veteran families kind of
serve right alongside you. If you have a kid, it's very difficult if your dad or mom is gone for
years at a time. You have to move this and that. So after I did my affirmation project for veterans,
I created one for kids. And this is military affirmations
written for military kids. So a lot of the language is about being proud of your hero,
being respectful. So in the language that military kids understand, I also put in like word searches
with like military words and like mazes with like military themes. So that was a fun project to do
because I think military kids trauma and stress and issues go understudied and
unappreciated. Absolutely. John, this has been fun, man. Anything you want to promote or close
off with? No. On my Instagram and TikTok, I'll be continuing to do Veterans Living Abroad stuff.
And thanks for having me in here, man. Awesome. We'll link your stuff in the video. Thanks for
coming. Yeah. Thanks for watching, guys, as always. See you tomorrow.