Digital Social Hour - Parler Returns: Empower Your Voice Today! | Ryan Rhodes DSH #805

Episode Date: October 15, 2024

🎉 Parler is back and ready to empower your voice! Tune in now to explore how this reimagined platform is paving the way for free speech and authentic conversations. Don't miss out on this exciting episode of Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly and special guest Ryan, CEO of Parler. 🚀 Packed with valuable insights, learn how Parler prioritizes your privacy and content control, offering a safe space for open dialogue without censorship. Whether you're sharing news, engaging in discussions, or connecting with like-minded individuals, Parler is here to ensure your voice matters. Watch now and subscribe for more insider secrets. 📺 Hit that subscribe button and stay tuned for more eye-opening stories on the Digital Social Hour! Join the conversation and be part of this empowering movement. 🙌 #socialmediamarketing #politics #freespeechplatform #alternativesocialmediasitestofacebook #socialmediaformusicians CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Parler is Back 01:19 - Parler CEO Ryan 03:44 - Parler’s Focus on Open Dialogue 04:58 - Sambrosa 06:49 - Parler as an Alternative to Censorship 11:21 - Importance of Rural and City Life 13:44 - China Buying US Farmland 17:45 - Parler's Own Cloud Infrastructure 19:10 - Parler’s Future 20:40 - Government Pressure 21:30 - Pandemic Lockdowns 23:50 - Importance of Open Dialogue 27:35 - Hope for the Next Generation 31:10 - Influence of Teachers on Children 33:10 - Importance of Free Speech and Open Dialogue 35:39 - Outro APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: [e-mail] GUEST: Ryan Rhodes https://www.instagram.com/rhodesryan/ https://www.instagram.com/parler_social/ SPONSORS: Parler: https://parler.com/ Sambrosa: https://sambrosa.com/ LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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back control? Download the Parler app today on iOS or Android and join the movement. It's your voice, your platform. Let it be heard. Ready to take back control? Download the Parler app today on iOS or Android and join the movement. It's your voice, your platform. Let it be heard. Go to the App Store or Google Play Store today. Download Parler now where you have the power. All right, guys, CEO of Parler, Ryan Rhodes here today. We are in Dallas, Texas. Thanks for coming on, man. Yeah, absolutely. So and it it makes it easy because our offices are here, and we were up in Plano, and we were just on with the Tucker show last night. So there's been a lot going on in the last day, but excited to be here.

Yeah, that was a cool event. Roseanne Barr came out firing. I know. She did. The last two days, Alex Jones and Roseanne Barr, there's been no lack of content and energy in the crowd so it was uh last night there was over 8 000 people so wow you know it's getting getting more and more exposure for parlor as well we're out you know getting out there so uh but it was it was really really fun just packed

arena so yeah incredible what's been your favorite there's been 13 events so far, right? Yeah, 13 events. We got three left to go. Greenville, South Carolina, and then two in Florida. My favorite, you know, it's so tough because they're so different, different, but really, you know, Russell Brand was something I didn't entirely expect at all. All he really, he really got out there and you can see that kind of transformation in him from where he had gone to where it is. So seeing that stuff was really cool. Yeah. That was a really inspiring and emotional one. I saw him get on his knees and pray. Yeah. So it's, it's actually so interesting because a lot of the guests he's bringing on have been canceled. Yeah. A lot of them have. And that's really a big part of like why we're here,

here with Parler because so many people are getting demonetized they're getting canceled they're getting kicked off platforms simply for looking for the truth i mean we see this stuff with rfk and everything else where he was really fighting on vaccines talking about information and he was getting out there just wanting to you know have this discussion about what's going on where covid cut what all these lies we saw during covid and for a lot of people they were getting demonetized and everything else uh on all these other platforms uh the they were colluding with the government to do this so for parlor our really really uh focus is making sure that people can have that open dialogue

can talk and have that opportunity without being censored, without being taken offline, where there's not you, the government and what you can say, but it's you directly to other Americans, other people around the world of we're having a conversation because we really want truth. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Shout out to RFK because you couldn't even say the V word, the vaccine word, two years ago. And I feel like because he pushed it so hard, now we can finally say it. Yeah. Now, I mean, now you can finally have a dialogue. And I mean, the biggest thing on all this stuff is when they're trying to shut something down, they say you can't say something at all at all.

You got to question a lot of that. I mean, when you get into the end of these things, it's so funny because for instance, uh, when I, what really gave me pause early on was like, I'm allergic to penicillin, right? So like, I can't have that, even though it's helpful for other people. If you can't even be honest and be like, Oh, absolutely nothing. Nobody could possibly ever have this. Well, then you're not even being honest about, about actual things that can come out of it. And then RFK starts digging into it more and more and talking about things that are Russian. Just, hey, guys, maybe some people are going to have real honest questions that aren't fear mongering or anything else. And they couldn't even have that discussion on other platforms or they were completely taken off. Whereas for us,

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And as we grow and we're bringing more and more stuff out, our platform's getting better and better where we're going to have more video and bursts and things like that, which are a lot, a lot, the short clips and everything. It's going to be really cool for people to get out there and then have that ability to not be censored. Yeah. I think there'll always be censorship right now. I feel like they're just being more sneaky with it, like shadow banning and stuff. So they, they, they, they hate that word. Cause they're like, no, we don't shadow ban. It's very clear. It's very clear.

They're using it on 70% right now. I know it's so what we need to do is build up these other platforms. And honestly, we need to stop being, uh, being fooled by them where they go oh well we got in trouble people are getting mad they're looking for other alternatives so we're gonna not censor quite as much right now and then everybody just stays well that's why it's incumbent to get on these other platforms forms like we have parlor and actually build it up so we go no no we're not giving you second, third, fourth. You lost your chances.

You're already past your third chance. We want places that we can go that we know are built on that fairness. They're built on that free speech desire where we can have conversations and do more out there. Do you think a big part of the problem is these big companies are in bed with the government and the government's kind of telling them what to do? Yeah, I mean, very much. They've actively said that. They openly admitted it. I mean, even Zuckerberg has an apology for maybe we shouldn't have done this.

But if you're colluding, obviously they're still doing it. But if you're colluding with the government, with big tech. Look at the administration. It's really almost election interference as well because when they go out and the Hunter Biden lap stop story is not there. If we were up and going and in our current form of where we're at because we bought the company, brought it back because we really thought people want a new place to go for this. If we were there before operating as we are now, people would have another outlet to be able to talk about that stuff and get it out. But when you shut down a story about one political person

in Biden and the Biden family, it changes votes because they said the whole time it was lies, lies, lies. But I think American people are smart enough to actually go and look through things sure there's going to be some people that go and say things that aren't true but that's why a dialogue is important so that you can go and see what is true you can weed through that and we can trust the people to actually have that discussion together instead of saying the government's going to get in between that yeah dialogue's crucial because the truth will come out through dialogue eventually. And it has. It just took years. And now we have a president sitting in there who can barely function because they wouldn't let people even question whether or not maybe he was fit, what else was going on behind the scenes.

And instead, now we have what we have right now. Yeah, I think Parler and X were like the saving grace because without those apps, you wouldn't have Alex Jones. You wouldn't have RFK speaking out. Even Trump got banned from everywhere. It's absolutely amazing that they could go and take the president of the United States off of an app and say, you can no longer speak just because they had issues or they sought something.

And we've seen the narrative that they use to take him off just completely disintegrate, which is why they're allowing him back on again. But who knows? With this election, I hope we can do something and we can fix this and give him a chance to bring this economy running back and everything. But we don't know what they're going to do. And if not, they could take him back off the next day. What if they censor him so he can't get his message out and just turn his reach down?

The more places like Parler that we have to get that message out or to allow people to hear it, the better informed a voter is going to be, too. Yeah, it just seems so targeted, too. Like they seem to be all in bed with each other because when they banned him, it was every app the same day. Same with Andrew Tate. Yeah, I mean, they're going out and they say this is not speech that we're going to allow we we're not going to let you think like that we're not going to let you talk like that and so all of a sudden it's like a ban and it's it's oh no no we just decided that this was a thing it's society you're coordinating this this is clear clearly coordinated hits on people that

are taking their voice away okay and what happens when we find out so often that these facts aren't true, right? And so all of a sudden that person got banned, could never go out and talk, has to find alternative ways around there to get their message out so they can say, I just got railroaded. Well, once again, with Parler, we're not going to do that. We're going to give them the opportunity to be able to make their case and get out there and talk through what's going on, why the things are going on, and how we can actually fight through the misinformation. That is, they love the disinformation thing. Well, they're spreading disinformation because they're not allowing somebody else to get out the real information. Yeah. Yeah, I was talking to Amy yesterday

So there's gonna be no fact-checking on the site right no bots going through all that We're not going through bots We have an ought we do have automated moderation and stuff but stuff because as we're gonna go on that but the main thing our main focus is We've seen in this time like child trafficking and and this stuff is out of control So what we are not doing is we are not going to have porn on our platform. We are not, because that is a gateway to the child trafficking and do that. So we are doing things like shutting that stuff down

because what we want is dialogue and discussion. We're not trying to, we don't want to promote anything like that, like human trafficking or whatever. So that is a line in the sand. We do draw on our app because we think that will actually help with dialogue and for speech and people getting out and talking. Yeah. So I know you're from Iowa.

Did you grow up in a small city? Small compared to Dallas. But I grew up in Cedar Rapids. So it was a good-sized city in Iowa. And then in the Des Moines Ames, went to school at Iowa State in Ames and everything. So I've not really rural, but I got a lot of buddies that are rural. So I went out there, did some construction and stuff during college, golf course, you know, just so I like it's kind of interesting with Iowa. You get a good city feel, but you can also, you know, you're down there in rural, so you kind of get that back to a very quiet, more lifestyle that's nice, a different pace.

And, you know, as you know, Iowa produces, we feed the world. So that's important there that we have. You know, cities are great, but we also have communities that can get out there and make sure our food's, we've got good food. I got a new bucket list item. You said the ice cream in Iowa. Oh, yeah, we got some great ice cream. Yeah, that's on my bucket list now. Yeah, there's some of these little local spots that they do it very fresh. And it's, man, I get spoiled.

Oh, I love it, man. Yeah. That's on my list. And as a business leader, it's important to have that country aspect, but also city life. You were in DC for a bit. I feel like some of these politicians are just all city-based. They don't know how to resonate with like, well, I think so many of them, they get, they get stuck in there. Even if they're from rural or wherever else it is, they go out to DC and they just get stuck in the city. and it's one thing after another. And it's almost like they get a disconnect from their home district. And then some of them came from cities and they never,

they've never gone anywhere but a city. So they don't understand all of the aspects of this that are out there. And it's which is more important, you know, hopefully we can get people talking, get people integrated on this, but this and hopefully, you know, fix a lot of these issues. Because as we've seen, the food issue is, I mean, it's huge. We're not making America healthy. I mean, that's something RFK said. He's taught, I don't know if he actually announced it on the Tucker tour, but he's talking about make America healthy again.

We have to start looking about where our food's coming from and how we're doing this and really get back to kind of a lot of where we've been. For sure. So how are the farmers in Iowa doing right now? Because I'm seeing a lot of headlines of the buying up farmland, Iowa is putting a stop to that. The governor's been really trying to get rid of that. But, you know, it's hard to compete because there's so many other factors with China and everything else. It's not a level playing field, right? This isn't, you know, it's not free trade when they're going out and when farmers are buying fertilizer or something like that. And it's coming, I mean, almost everything they're using is coming from overseas. We're not being, even being allowed to

make it here anymore and more. And so what happens is it gets shipped over, they buy one cost and then China goes and is like, Oh, it's on the way, the cost went up, so you have to pay us more before you can unload this and get it in the field. We ship stuff over to them. They go, oh, no, we're going to sit that and wait because the price went down. So it's really, really hard to plan on this. This is something Trump really, really heavily went after in his administration, and why a lot of farmers said, you know, there are some things that tariffs can do that like temporarily hurt us, but it created a better playing field for a longer term. So they were willing to take that like short-term kind of tightness to get over that hump to say, if we can operate fair, we do it so well. We feed the world. Like I said, if we can operate on a fair playing field where it's actually what they say they're doing,

then we're going to be able to compete no problem. But if we're operating in a world where we don't know what it is, there is no continuity, then it's very hard for our farmers to plan. And as you've seen with the fuel prices and everything else going up, that also affects because they have to get the stuff from their farm to market uh market and so it the fuel costs really drive up and also hurt a farmer's bottom line big time absolutely yeah so my dad and grandfather both grew up on a farm in pa i don't think we could live off that these days no it's it's it's amazing

the resiliency of a lot of our farmers to maintain these century farms and other things out there. And I really think that it's going to be important to keep that. I mean, who knows what they're putting in all the fruits, but they're so cheap now that these local farmers can't compete. It's true, but I think people are heading back because they're seeing something and they say, we want to go back. We want that organic stuff. We want those people who are really putting their blood, sweat, and tears into these things to make better product, not just mass-produced. You can see it in the taste.

And that's the other thing. Hopefully with us we can get the message out more and more and more. The more people can talk about it, the more you have these platforms where people can communicate. Like, you know, you can set up a marketplace. We have our marketplace coming out. So if you can start doing different things like that, getting it out on different means where you're going direct to consumer and you're not having to go through these large, you know, the large scale companies to get it. I think I think there's a lot of things that can can can come out of that, that and a lot of it's going to take the farmers jumping up and and trying these new avenues to

get it out there as opposed to, you know, just sending it out to the big box. Yeah, absolutely. When I go to farmers markets, it's like a hot place for me. I'd rather support them than go to a big grocery store, and it tastes better. I know, the tomato. Oh, those tomatoes. You get a good tomato. It's like, it's just so different than these other ones that taste a little waxy. Oh, yeah. I mean, APL, right?

They're putting that Bill Gates stuff on the fruit now. That's a whole other podcast. You wouldn't be able to say that in some areas. Oh, yeah, I know. Yeah, certain sites will ban you for that one that's like the new vaccine right yeah saying that stuff there's always like a new thing they're censoring i noticed i know you know so yep but uh yeah so well that's like i said there there is always that new thing they're censoring you just never know what it is going to be today and a lot of that's driven by corporations going out there and you know tamping down somebody else's speech because they go, oh, don't say that.

And they have all the money to try to stop it. Well, we're not going to do that. And we can't be taken down like the previous iteration of Parler because we have our own cloud. And so that allows us a lot of ability to not have to worry about certain other things because we are on our own platform. We have our own infrastructure in a way that other apps have definitely not done that, especially other apps trying to compete in kind of a more free speech, open dialogue. Well, AWS can take them down, down these other places.

They can't take us down because we have our own cloud. Nice. And AWS owns a big percentage of all the websites, right? Yeah. I mean, they own all kinds of stuff across there. And so for us, we just felt it was that important to make sure that our infrastructure did not rely on something that could cut us out. Because, you know, we have 16 million users plus that were on there and we're bringing more and more back.

And so as they come back, they're going to have that dialogue and being able to speak without the fear that like the past time it was taken down, but we're entirely new. The name may be the same, but we're a very new company, and we're out there doing things differently in a way that we think is going to have a long-term sustainability. Love that. Yeah, I never would have thought a hosting company could take down a business like that. I mean, you would think there would be some way that these people would be able to go. And with a creator, right, if these creators are kicked off, you're demonetizing them.

You are without a trial or without a jury, you're going out and taking their livelihood. How can you do that on a platform you've invited them on to, to be there? And then all of a sudden you're like, Oh, all of your, everything you're monetizing, all of your livelihood, it's gone. You can't do it anymore. Now we own it on it. And that's something I think with parlor, we really, really want to be able to let people do that, have that freedom, not have that fear of constantly doing it. Because that's the other thing. When somebody has that fear, it dictates what they say.

There's things people are going on. They go, I want to have this conversation. I want to do these things and talk about it. But if I put it on there, my station is going to get and channel is going to get demonetized. Well, if you're on Parler, you won't going to get, and channel's going to get demonetized. Well, if you're on Parler, you won't have to worry about that. You're going to have that dialogue, the og and that freedom. And I think we're going to start sifting through things and seeing more because we're not trying to push and have our finger on the scale or thumb on the scale of what people can and can't

say. Yeah. Yeah. Government pressure's insane. I see news some going out Twitter pretty much every day. It's crazy. It goes out there and says, you can't do this, you can't do that, and otherwise we're going to fine you, we're going to do this. Well, I mean, it's just ridiculous in here. I mean, America is built on the freedom of speech and the ability to live your life, freedom of speech and ability to, uh, to live your life, uh, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, all these things. We're looking at

stuff in, in so many other countries where they're putting their thumb on the scale. Like basically you can't even maybe be a Christian. You can't say things in the Bible all of a sudden, sudden because of this, this, and so people are going to have to push back and it's going to take pushing back on Newsom. It's going to take pushing back on Trudeau. It's going to take pushing back on these people and saying, no, no, no, no, no. You don't get to do that. We, we are, we are in a new age where we are not going to be the people that are telling you what you can think, think, or who, or where you can go to get your information. Yeah. And I recently learned after that Olympic opening, this is a worldwide problem.

It's not just the U S yeah. It's, it's everywhere. It's really, uh, it's really, honestly, it's kind of scary.

I mean, if we, and if we don't do something and if we don't go to places to push back and talk about it now, then it's going to be much harder to create these things in the future, which is once again, why I was bringing up, like,'ve got to get off these other things and we've got to get on to places where we can have that dialogue so it's open,

because the more sunlight we have now, when they come back, the other apps, they're going to go, oh, well, we tried to censor, and it's actually going to force their behavior differently as well because they have competition. And so often we just haven't seen them have competition because people keep staying there well when we get out there that competition is going to go well maybe we won't go that far left and center maybe we won't cut all this stuff off so it as a whole will keep everything uh keep the ability for people to get that message out yeah they'll be forced to make changes because they'll be losing so many people that they have to, right? I wonder if that will happen anytime

soon, you think? Look, I think it's, I mean, I think it's happening right now. And I think if we don't do something now, then, you know, we won't have 10 years, 10 years from now, five years from now, we're going to look back and go, well, we want to do something and then everybody's going to be angry, but they're not going to have an outlet. So it's really important that these people go and get on and become early adopters as we, as everything grows to get into this and, uh, and be able to be able to give their voice now before it's too late. And it's so much harder to fight back. Yeah. I feel like during the pandemic, there was no outlet. I know. And it was just crazy. You're locked in your home.

There's no outlet. You can't do anything. And that in and of itself, just the way they said, if you don't think like us, if you're questioning anything, like they're shutting down business. I mean, they're keeping strip clubs open and shutting down churches. Apparently, you can get COVID at church and not in a strip club. I mean, it's insane. But you couldn't say that or you'd get demonetized. And so the more we have that discussion, the more we can call out that kind of hypocrisy on places like Parler,

the better we're going to be in the future and the better we're going to be able to protect our own freedoms. Yeah. So it's not just about the app. It's an ability to have that freedom to go out there and say who you are and live your life. I see so much regret with people that got influenced during the pandemic. I know. Like everywhere. Well, it's funny.

So House and Habit, Jessica, she had an entire awakening of this. And she's been on the tour with RFK and everything else because she goes, wait a minute. This is insane what we're doing. All this regulation. So she has a really cool story. She went from the left to now getting out there and being able to have the free thought and going, wait, these people have been lying to me. I was out in California. I was living my life.

And all of a sudden, I found out all this stuff that I thought wasn't true. And, you know, it's really cool that we do now. I think you're seeing a lot of those people willing to go back and look and reassess. You see it with RFK, with tulsi gabbard they're reassessing what was told what they believed in a way that's like just just totally new and open because for the longest time it was you know left first right and i think obviously in a lot of ways it's easy to frame the argument like that it's not really just left first right you It's really truth versus evil in a lot of cases. That's how people should view it, right?

Because they put these labels like Democrat, Republican, but that's irrelevant. And I mean, every Republican's not right. Every Democrat's not 100% wrong all the time. They're getting close, though. But as that goes, and it's the other thing, too. A lot of our users lean to the right. A lot of them are looking for conservative content. But the other thing is, you know, we'll take all the lefties coming out over and have an argument.

Let's have it out. Let's discuss this stuff so that we're not hiding information from people. We can have an open dialogue, and people can get out there. And so we invite everybody on our platform to go and share if they think it's missing. If the other side thinks it's misinformation, get out there and argue with the other person. Explain why you don't believe that. And then somewhere in the middle of that, we are really going to find the truth for sure. That's why I watched Charlie Kirk. Yeah. Cause he'll pull up to liberal college

campuses and have conversations. He won't get heated. He'll just treat it like a normal conversation. Absolutely. He's so good at just being like, okay, well, I've heard you out and everything. Now we're going to go back and forth and you have to bring some facts to the table. You can't just spout shouting in the wind talking points. And some people are going to run to their corner

and just never, ever change. But a lot of other people, all of a sudden, it's like, wait, I never thought about it that way. This is breaking it. And if we don't get out and have that dialogue, we can do it. We're just not going to get better. We're going to continue in our own corner. And, you know, it's awesome that he goes to college campuses and does that that but he when he goes to college campuses they also need somewhere to show people like we're doing this right this so

instead of just five people when you got that app you can talk to millions of millions of people and you can get out that out there and we saw charlie on tour uh which was really cool uh gave you know gave a nice uh shout out to parler as he's getting back on as well and posting content. And so the tour has been really valuable as we get more and more influencers back on the platform to tell people it's really important to have this place to go so we can talk. We've been demonetized. We want and we want to be able to get back out there there and tell people and share this open dialogue in this discussion. Yeah, exciting times.

I'm hopeful, man. You guys are really inspiring the next generation, I feel like, because it would have been a scary time for our kids to grow up with censored platforms. Like they would have just been robots, NPCs. Yep. And that's what they want, because for a government, it makes you much more easy to control like that. If you're not, if you are just that robot that just gets fed

that information, you're not going to think for yourself and you're going to be easy to control. Yeah, that's how I was for 18 years growing up in Jersey. Everyone was Democrat around me. I watched the news every day, watched the talk shows. I actually watched the talk show with Jimmy last night just because I was in the hotel room and I couldn't believe I used to watch that show. I mean, it was crazy. They were making fun of Trump the whole time they they were obviously promoting certain people that were paid to be on or whatever yeah I mean it's it's just it's just crazy you watch you go back and see some of the things and you see how really they're just trying to control you to change things I mean look, look at these places like Disney and others.

They get out there, and they have an agenda, right? Like what they're doing to our kids, the kids these days, with going in and somebody feels a little awkward or something else, and they start pushing this gender ideology on them. And then they go and say, oh, you can't talk about that if you push back and take these people away from the parents, and then they have no outlet. We've got to be out there exposing that more, talking about these things, or we're going to lose our culture.

The kid stuff is mind-blowing to me. I just saw some crazy thing on Twitter where a lot of these celebrities are having transgender kids, and I don't think that's a coincidence. Well, no. I mean, I think what they're doing is they're actively basically warping their minds before they can grow up. We're not teaching them to be kids. Kids we're training them to be whatever new social construct that makes them popular in

Hollywood or anything else is. And so they're actually really abusing their kids. And yet they want to go and attack other people and say no you're abusing the child because they you know they went to school and they were told they're supposed to wear a dress or something if they're a boy boy and then you have no agency there there so the parents like Gavin Newsom and Tim Walls they want to take all of a sudden the agency away from the parents parents instead of actually letting the parents let the kids be kids and the parents be parents so that they can, you can grow up. It's just, it's just a wild world

because look, we all go through as kids, everybody's going to go through that awkward stage or something else where they're, they're not sure what, what's going on. I had a buddy tell me, he goes, you know, my kid would thought he was a dinosaur for a week. He watched Jurassic Park, decided he was a dinosaur, okay? So for a week, he goes, he's a kid, I'll let him be a dinosaur. And then finally he goes, okay, buddy, you're not a dinosaur. You can't, like, you can't do this stuff. You're not a dinosaur. Well, when the government gets in between that parent and their parenting of the child,

then it really, they can't help teach that kid those things. So they're learning to grow up and be who they're going to be as it goes. And so I think it's just more and more important that we're all out there talking about that, telling people, having that dialogue so that we can give parents a better chance, we can give our country, and we can give kids a better chance at being able to find where they're at. Yeah, it's a shame because parents want the best for their kids. They send them to school thinking they're learning useful stuff, and little do they know they're being influenced.

Oh, yeah. I mean, we could go on for hours on the stories and stories that are happening, whether, you know, where some kid comes back and and at home and like, oh, well, I'm I'm apparently bad because I'm you know, the kid doesn't know anything thing about being, you know, race or anything like that. They just know their buddies are there and then their teacher comes out and is like, like, you're bad. So you have to go sit on that side of the room. He's like, wait, I didn't know. I just thought I was a kid. I didn't know about it. And they're teaching this stuff at an age where people aren't even ready.

These kids aren't ready. They don't even know about it. Are there things that we have to discuss that were hard things that happened in the past and evils that we've gone beyond? Absolutely. But it's also evil to go and start perpetuating that because you want to pit two people against on race, gender, and all of that stuff. You want to pit these people against each other so that you can control them as a government. That's also an evil as going forward as well. And it's also going to create more problems that

we've, in a lot of ways, grown out of as a country through hard times. I mean, we fought wars over this. There's been a lot of dissension over it, but I think we've gone a long way and just all of a sudden, they're trying to take us back the opposite way under the guise of inclusion and equity. And that's not really what we're seeing the direction

of things. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like they use racism, sexism as a means to just make us fight each other. 100%. Yeah. It's definitely done on purpose. And I feel like it's just a waste of time for the most part. Like obviously that stuff exists, but we shouldn't be focusing on it daily. Yeah. But like when you see something like that, when somebody's mistreating somebody specifically, you can call it out. But when somebody just accidentally is like, oh, I didn't really think of it that way,

that way, I'm sorry, I didn't know to talk about this. You just get so scared working around it, and too many people are afraid to talk. And with all that, you get on there and you have platforms, these other platforms like Facebook, and all of a sudden they're pushing and they're like, oh no, you can't say that. You can't have that open dialogue. And I think it's important to make sure we have those things

that can give people the chance to have those discussions. I mean, if we don't provide an alternative, how long is it going to be before they try to shut down Rogan before they shut down, try to shut down all these other people who Rogan's another one he, he works through. And I don't, he doesn't agree with every single guest, obviously he has on as I'm sure you wouldn't with all your guests, but you can have a discussion, you can have a talk, and people can work through some uncomfortable things sometimes and get to another place, but at least we're discussing it in a real way, not shouting at people and not just trying to shut them up

because they don't believe exactly what you believe. Absolutely, and I feel like they were trying to censor the Israel war, so people didn't know what side to pick because they were censoring it. And that's just the latest example. Yeah. It's hard whether it's the war in Israel or whether it's the Ukrainian war and everything we're seeing there. We're not there, right? So we're not in Israel. We're not in Ukraine, right? So we don't know. We can't see directly what's happening on the ground. We have to rely on reports of this thing.

And obviously, we've seen so many media so skewed in one way or another telling us that we have to only believe this one thing. So you want to get out there and get facts out there. And it's going to take platforms to actually allow this dialogue and this discussion out there so that we can, um, so that we can kind of make up our own minds with more and more information, not less information. Absolutely. Ryan, it's been a pleasure, man, where people find you and find out about parlor. Well, you can go to parlor.com. Um, we've got a great art, great, got a great article we just also put out about free speech and how we're – I actually got it pulled up right here.

We'll link it in the video. So it's social media free speech and the cost of censorship. So we just put that out, and I really, really encourage you guys, everybody, to get out there and see that, read it, get on there more, dialogue, and go to Parler and get on our app. Boom. We'll link it below. Thanks for coming on. Thanks for watching, guys, as always. And I'll see you next time.