Digital Social Hour - Picking Up Men, Struggles of Dating & Doing Over 2,000 Scenes | Melissa Hutchison DSH #324

Episode Date: February 26, 2024

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What started you getting into that lifting stuff? That's what you're known for, right? Oh my god, it's crazy. Hey, can you do these? And it was a whole bunch of like jack chicks lifting dudes overhead. And I'm like, I don't know, but I'll try to do some stuff. Well, this bench looks soft enough and I just drop him. He just falls out like he's been, you know, taken out.

And I call the office. I'm like, I'm pretty sure this guy hates me. They're like, no, we just talked to him. He's so happy. He's the best thing he's been, you know, taken out. And I call the office. I'm like, I'm pretty sure this guy hates me. They're like, no, we just talked to him. He's so happy. It's the best thing he's ever done. I was like, oh, thank God. Wherever you guys are watching this show, I would truly appreciate it if you follow or subscribe.

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Hi. How's it going? I'm excited. You just went on Ryan's show, right? I did. I'm Ryan Powell. He's like my bestie. I brought him Jada Stevens.

That's really what it is. He's like, I need a wing woman. Can you bring me Jada? She never does these. And I was like, yeah, I'll bring Jada on. And he's like, that's my type. And I'm like, great. So let's my chopped liver.

Damn. But at least I got Bob Manery on mine. I was like, it's way better than you, Ryan. So you were third wheeling for him for a bit. Yeah, it's OK. I don't mind. I was like, you like her. Talk to her.

That's a good friend. Yeah. Not just that. But then next thing you know, he's trying to pull out his right in front of her right yes what yeah like she's all i want to see it and he so she does the thing where she like like tap checks like guys all the time and i'm like what she goes yeah when i hug a guy i always check on when i'm like i never thought about doing a check on somebody before i didn't know that was a thing. I didn't either. Okay.

Thank you. High five. Well, some guys are growers, though. You know what I mean? So you can't really judge a book by its cover there. I agree. Like, what if he's not, like, in full form? Maybe if he's shy, like, it's like Super Turtle and it's just hiding on top of the balls.

Yeah. And then it just comes out, like, eight inches. Like, boom. Perfect. Yeah. Because he could have came out of a cold shower or something. Right. You know what I mean? It's raining.

Yeah. There's a lot of factors there. You just left right? I did. What went into that decision? I think I'm at the point where when you're with a company and you've been their head

girl for 17 and a half years, you have to kind of step away. I'm okay with that. One is I immediately got hit up by naughty america vixen like we want you on our sets like how soon can we get you jules jordan's like wait are you still doing hardcore and i was like i've been lifting f***ing grown men and chicks like and flipping them and sucking their d***s i'm pretty sure i can yeah i can do hardcore stuff what started you getting into that lifting stuff? That's what you're known for, right?

Oh my God, it's crazy. So I show up to set. The first one was Piper Perry, 70 pounds. Okay, like that's, I can easily curl 70 pounds. And the director at the time, Tony T, who I loved to death, he's like family, still still is even though he's not in the industry goes hey can you do these and it was a whole bunch of like jacked chicks lifting dudes overhead and I'm like I don't know but I'll try to do some stuff he goes if we can try and hit all these key points he goes I'm gonna let you do what you do and then sure enough I flipped Piper no problem and all of a sudden it was like hi meet this spanish kid jordy and i'm like okay jordy speaks no english at the time

imagine speaking no english and then i'm trying to communicate that i'm going to literally curl you and slam you up against the fireplace and suck your dick and then like we decided pile driver would be like fun integrating but not degrading because i'm still sucking and i'm all jordy pile driver and so i get a pile driver and he went to go on top like he would and he's i'm all no jordy i'm all you pile driver and he didn't get it and then all of a sudden i just finally looked at tony he's uh just do it and i went for bam and i dropped him in a pile driver the best part of that whole entire thing is i've got like people saying i look like the undertaker tombstoning him on like because i

can't take him from in the air and be dominant i have to like drop him down on something and i was like well this bench looks soft enough and i just drop him and he just falls out like he's been you know taken out wow he didn't speak any english any and so at the end i call the office i'm like i'm pretty sure this guy hates me i just totally like demasculated him they're like no we just talked to him he's so happy it's the best thing he's ever done i was like oh thank god that's wow so you had sex with someone that you never talked to yeah interesting imagine like chemistry there though too and it was super fun like i let him do the superman on me and now everyone tries to copy that and just like

i've been having fun when i have sex and if the chemistry is good and you can just connect like and you find something attractive about somebody i think it's like really deep and fun and exploratory okay i got because i was single i wanted to try it and i said what's the worst thing that's gonna happen i'll do a scene i don't like it unfortunately i liked it and the next thing you know i was working every day for like five years in a row and i was just like okay i need a break like can we get like days off and then of course being an queen it's like oh also and i'm all you realize i'm starving so like over a week i'm starving they're like yeah we know and i'm like oh you can't eat before so i'm very particular like there used to be a director jason who would do something called Deep F***ing Abyss. And it was, here's this 12-inch d***,

and he wants it completely disappearing inside your a**. Or pretty sloppy, where, like, his ideas would be randomly thought of. Like, that morning, he must have been in the bathroom brushing his teeth, and he goes, how do you feel about toothpaste? And I'm all, I mean, I like toothpaste. Why? He goes, so we're going to squeeze an entire Aquafresh teeth and he goes how do you feel about toothpaste no more i mean i like toothpaste why he goes so we're gonna squeeze an entire aquafresh into your you're gonna push it out which is clean

no streaking all three stripes out and then they're gonna brush their teeth and pry open and then dip it in and keep going back and forth and i'm like did you think about this this morning while you were brushing your teeth he goes i did and i'm like you're wow that sounds intense and you're willing to do all these crazy things as long as like for one try everything once because you or twice because you never know if somebody did it right the first time okay and when you have a relationship with the director i feel like it's kind of fun to just show off and i was like i can do it and he's all it doesn't burn because i was like let me see because the menthanol in it i thought it

would burn i was fine speaking of burn you got burnt i've been on fire how about that wait what do you mean burned no you were on fire what happened there uh so i went and did an upper floor and first upper floors kink.com and they thought it was really cute to do like candle wax from afar and like let it drop unfortunately it didn't cool in time so like my skin was already really warm and everyone kind of got a segment in this upper floor experience which is like basically a group they allow like tested individuals to be in involved in ways and one of the main directors who was not the director for my scene looks and goes lexi bell doesn't want to be set on fire will you and i was like i mean i'm phoenix and i was like all this hair this is weed don't burn my hair and's like, how about we put your hair up in a bun

and if you feel any discomfort, let me know. So I start like getting fires on me. Thank God I didn't have a bush back then. And I, one of them was like a squatted, like, and the fire wrapped underneath my literally was like this and I'm all hot they kept going and they like put it out and then they just kept like just putting fire everywhere on me while damn you didn't feel it oh you feel it 100 the good news is it just didn't burn me skin diamond tells me later on oh you know the phoenix tattoo i have on me i'm like yeah she goes that's because somebody did it wrong and it burnt her skin so she took the scarring and made it in the scales of a phoenix wow that's clever like why didn't i know

this before i attempted this this is some that is crazy i saw you on dj vlad it was eight years ago yes with lex long time ago but even back then you said you've done 1300 scenes yes i'm at 34 12 holy crap yeah so you really keep track i do uh i don't have to give up to do my job and i always tell everyone like one if you have to give up to do your job don't do it uh two i remember every single scene and every girl i've ever damn that's insane memory yeah and i've only been with 45 guys in total of my life so okay some people forget who they sleep with oh no because so tori lane used to forget people and like she was kind of like my idol and she's all here's the deal if i don't remember your name if i don't i don't know who the are and i was like okay i like

that that's a good move and she's like but at the same time i'm all i don't know who the f**k you are and i was like okay i like that that's a good move and she's like but at the same time i'm all i want to give every girl respect if i didn't f**k you i won't remember your name but once you're i like lick your f**k flip you do something with another guy whatever i know who you are 45 is actually pretty low for that amount of sessions yeah well it's always the same guy so one of the good news is when you first get in a you don't have a choice who you right and then i got really popular thank you everybody um pretty early on so then they were like who do you do the best scenes with who do you want to work with and so i have a yes list of like 15 guys and that's it okay because like one i'm all if i don't know if they're stay hard that's a problem oh that's happening to you yeah because they get

scared ah like bang bus back in the day right that's like a huge yeah and so we just pick up dudes off this road be like hey listen yeah oh i thought they were hired i know well they are in their hour so here's the deal it'll be a random guy and i'll be like go get tested tomorrow and you might be one of the guys we pick and then like the college dorm invasions that we used to do on mcbrow same thing it's like you may be the guy that gets whoever got hard got i was like so such a james one time we were picking up people and i took like for some reason in the bang bus they had a chicken foot on a stick and so i like started like rubbing his balls with the chicken foot like but he got hard and i'm all i'm him he's the one we're they're like okay but no girl

wants to like make out in their scenes and like have like connection them all if this guy's first time ever you are intimidating out f*** out of him. Because he's like, I know what you do to guys. I'm so scared. I'm like, make out with them. Make them feel comfortable. F*** with them a little bit. But if he stays hard, he's your guy.

Have you ever taken a virginity? I've been offered a lot of virginities. I refuse. Really? I'm like, why would you want to take somebody's virginity? Like, I don't know. That's, like, awkward to me. So you still believe it's, like, a special moment? virginities are fused really i mean like why would you want to take somebody's virginity like i don't know that's like awkward to me so you still believe it's like a special moment yeah i do like and for them it'd be a special moment they're like oh my god i've been out to you my

whole life and blah blah and i'll be like how about escorting like do you escort can i get you there like i want you to be the first i'm like no guys you're not gonna do it so you don't hook up with fans no interesting they want to a lot of girls do though right oh yeah and they even do content with them and i'm like there's that line again of are we stars or are we escort are we other it's like i don't want that line to be blurred for me so you stay in your lane did you get type at all or did you stay with just i stayed with mainly shooting um obviously yes it does well thank god again for everybody but i like production like there's something about coming to set getting your makeup ready they're gonna have a creative idea that maybe i wouldn't

have thought of it's not on my budget i just get show up do crazy get paid and i loved every minute of it nice and i try to make sure my counterpart always loves it too yeah and when you were first starting out you said you didn't have much say right so they would just give you a script and you had to follow up yep and they'd be like here's the guy that we hired and i'd be like he's not really attractive or there's something about him that's off and i'm like uh and then you used to be able to call after the scene and be like hey can you put that guy on my no list and i finally was like here's my yes list here's the 15 guys if they're not on there don't have me do this i'd rather not have the money wow and i didn't realize it would work and they liked it and they're like okay cool they're like how many

times can you Johnny Castle and i was like as many as many as I want. Damon dice. Like I have my Vegas locals. I love your Manuel Ferraras. Everybody like, yeah. All the best, the best that know that I'm crazy, but it's like a good, so they're happy.

Nice. You do Johnny sins yet. Oh yeah. I've known Johnny for almost 18 years now. Wow. Yeah. I'm like, he,

me and him got in kind of at the same time. And so we used to shoot a lot together and then we like took a break and i did johnny sin's thousandth scene for and then we took a break again and then we shot at his house here in vegas and i had like some blonde and braid thing going because i was going to nicaragua and i like if you're gonna be in the water and scuba diving you need braids interesting and I was like so I'm just him in his pool the whole time that's great you really love I do the best are they not I like them I'm like for people who are like oh my god I hate what you're lying yeah

and you can always tell who likes by eye contact really do you mean? So if a fan comes up to me and I've never met them, I always look at how they look at me. There's the ones that scan your body. It means it's like it's more than just my face. Or I'll ask them, like, what's your favorite body part on a girl? And if they say smile or eyes, I'm like, oh, you like a lot. Okay. And they're like, how the hell did you know that? I was like, I've been doing this a long time.

Interesting. You said on your IG you love voyeurism i do so the act of watching others have sex yes what got you into that so i would say i did a scene for ben's voyeur back in the day and i asked him like what why do you shoot and you're not in the scenes? You're a talent. And he goes, there's something about watching someone else have sex. And, again, I'm brand new. I'm still in the first year. Still learning who the I am. He's like, watch. And I was, like, watching just, like, a scene going on.

And I'm like, that is kind of hot. I hadn't watched before I got into it. Really? I, like, got into it a going my ex liked it i was like he kind of like play it and i'm like i don't want to watch that i'm like you can have it on but like i'm gonna you and if you want to stay hard because you're watching someone else i don't care and then it was kind of like a i'm going in and i did it. And I had Randy Spears, who's no longer in the industry tell me, he goes, you're really hot. Like if you ever want to do hit up this agency. And I like

followed him on my space. Yes. I'm old as shut up everyone. Uh, I, and so I followed him and they kept hitting me up, hitting me up. And then by, I met him all in January and October I got in. Nice. And has your ex seen it? Oh, yeah. And then I put him in one. Oh, you put him in one? Yeah. So My Sexy Life, like Reality Kings was amazing.

They made this site called Mafia. They gave me my own site. They're like, my sexy life is yours. Have fun with it. And it was, I picked what I did, who I did, when. And one of the things, like, I f***ed my ex. Then another one was, I f***ed me, Tommy Gunn, and Ricky White in a tree. Whoa. In a park.

In a tree. People are walking underneath us, and we're inside of a tree. And I don't know why. I thought, hey, guys, can you climb this tree with me? And then, sure enough, the branches, like, I was looking at the branches. I was like, I think it can hold our body weight. Like, let's just f*** in a tree. So you were on top of it yeah that is insane in a public park yeah public park wow other public sex i did see that actually i've never done it i love it there's something

about being outside and the risk factor you're like yeah man have you been caught not yet actually one time i was giving a behind a dumpster for uh bank bros in miami and they were like hey listen you're phoenix marie we're not gonna stop you and it was cops and i was like thank you they're like but if you could go further in the dumpster it'd be great and i was like or you guys can just watch out for me and they're like do we get a photo i'm like you can have whatever you want and they're like really i'm gonna watch it take your phone out record it and i'm looking at the director director's like are you really talking the cops this way i'm like i am because it's miami that is funny so they recognized you oh not just that

like i'll be topless playing in the water and they're like this isn't the topless part and then they see me they're like phoenix and i was like i know i'm like i just have this thing i like to be naked i had mr pete literally grabbed me one time my arms back behind and he's like letting random fans on the beach grab my tits wow and i was like pete i did not okay he's like listen you're a fucking dirty bitch you're gonna let look look at her look at her and i'm like i didn't think i was gonna do that are you a fan of nude beaches i am my dad took me to one on accident once when i was a kid it was interesting well it's at least he's like hey listen my son needs to see some i think i was like 14 so apparently if you go in the water which he didn't know this um that's like a sign you want to f**k something and it's like a gay beach so someone followed us yeah someone followed us home it was pretty weird you're like where's

the guns yeah where's the knives yeah it was in jersey actually i didn't know i didn't know jersey had new yeah jersey has new beaches i was like none of the water in jersey seems like you should be in it hell no That's some toxic manure. I know. So it's like for you guys to go in thinking like you're 14. I didn't go in. He went in. Yeah.

Oh, he went in. There was only one girl. And like, yeah, there's like 50 dudes. It's always a sausage fest. Yeah. Why is that? I think girls are scared on new beaches, right? I don't think so. I mean, like, I don't mind being naked at all.

Well, you don't mind. But no, it's funny because like even before I didn't have don't mind being naked at all well you don't mind but no it's funny because like even before i didn't have a problem ever being naked like i'd be like walking around the house naked why not like in front of your dad no dad well nothing like that like older in my own apartment like my space like i wearing clothes as i can now yeah because you had nine siblings going up oh yeah nine other siblings i'm one ten, so I'm number seven of the ten. Did you feel neglected because there's so many siblings? No, it's crazy.

So my dad has ten. My mom, at six, met my dad and then married him, took on raising six kids that weren't her own, and made four more. Wow. And I'm the first of that four. Got it. And so my youngest brother's 25, so I have a rule. I will not f*** anyone that is younger than my youngest brother's 25 so i have a rule i will not anyone that is

younger than my youngest brother oh interesting rule and so they'll be like oh this new 18 year old kid i'm all you're 18 nope i was like also i don't think you should do unless you're 21 21 is that when you started i got in at 25 okay yeah i have this rule like i don't think you really know who you are one sexually a lot of girls are getting into up escort rates they've been doing this stuff since for whatever yeah or dancers etc but do you really know who you are sexually and it we take advantage of that right as an industry unfortunately we do this and girl gets shot out in her first three months all she has is escorting or to become a dancer and like you'll see some of the big names like have gone into escorting or they're just strippers now and that's all they have yeah and it's sad because

it's like well for some reason you just didn't click with the fans right and i'm just like i think i'm clicked because i'm a nerd i love marvel i rebuild classic cars i like guns i like to do basically everything a boy can do i can do better you're a tomboy oh yeah i was gonna ask your hobbies but it sounds like those are the main ones right there and now i'm skiing um and snowboarding and basically i'm like what's next yeah what is next because do you have a retirement plan when this is done uh my retirement plan will be in montana sitting there looking at the river right outside my door the train goes by nine times a day and just doing absolutely nothing sounds peaceful

right and then whoever i want at that point it it'll probably still male talent because I want them to be tested. And I don't like condoms. OK, I'm allergic to latex. What? Even skin condoms. I'm allergic to. Damn. So you have to go wrong.

I have to. And so it's like, hey, listen, when we test like, you know, some people like a lot. I'm like, listen, I know I'm clean and I just got tested and I just you yesterday. So you're clean. It's fine. We can know yeah so you like dating talent not dating just oh just you don't like dating i already did that i dated two people christian triple x and ramon namar and men in the industry are way more jealous of other men in the industry it's a diva complex they'll have at it like a divaness to them i think they want to just have their girl exclusive mainly yeah which is stupid because i'm like you met me sucking and or we were in a scene together while i was sucking

somebody else's and then you were the other and we kind of like got on a good vibe and now you're mad that i'm sucking that guy's again why i don't know i don't think i could do it just being honest you know what i mean yeah you want your girl for you for me yeah i'm a family guy i want kids yeah yeah i'm all there's nothing wrong with being open even in a family relationship uh that's a debate i guess what about it would be a turnoff like if if my girl and i had kids and she was hooking up with other guys yeah or you're hooking up with other girls what if she's like hey i'm pregnant right now i can't satisfy you sexually i think you should go somebody because i know i can't satisfy that right now Because some pregnancies are really difficult on women, right?

So I've seen a lot of girls say that to guys. Like, hey, listen, Hall Pass Central, like, I can't be there for what you want. So go do what you want. So I could go eight months without sex because I've done it. So I think I'd be fine. But I understand your question because most guys need a f*** every week. Yeah. So that's a valid question for sure.

And you're young. You know what I mean? I'd be i mean i practice semen retention so a lot of edging uh no i just don't even do it oh my god i couldn't do that eight months what's the longest you've gone uh 28 days okay so a month yeah not even a full month i was like make sure you put 28 days a month sounds horrible speaking of 28 days it's a leap year right yeah it is i know i was looking at all these uh fun things that we have hanging around them all apparently they're a really fun lube i want to see how you open it it says you can just snap it just run all over me i make a mess like always So what's special about this lube? Well, one thing is it is coconut-based. So there's a lot of people who love coconut, but it is also CBD.

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inside their holes i don't know if you know this like it's it's a weird thing some people legitimately just can't dilate to take and usually no matter how much foreplay i had one girl she only did girl girl when she first got in the industry because and she bought the kit to try and stretch her she couldn't get it oh she's too tight yeah wow i was like girl it's anal for you let's go damn i didn't know that was a thing yeah but like something like this is actually really good because one is look it's not even wiping it off fill my hand it's It's soft. Wow. It's like lotion. Yeah. I'm all, you can have this all over your body, actually.

Smell nice. And I think Jasmine's like one of those pretty scents that really, I don't know. It's a turn on. I like turn ons. Are you a candle girl at the bedroom? I am. It's romantic. Okay.

I do do romantic. Not often, but I do. So you're into romance, but you're into dating that's that's fascinating to me i'm all you know every time i date somebody they just get jealous what about non-co-workers just like normal dudes i've dated uh somebody not in the industry that was a welder i've dated guys in the industry that um were in other industries i've dated football players i've dated hockey players. I've dated all kinds of different sporting guys, obviously. And it's all the same thing.

Like you said, they want sole exclusivity. Yeah. And it's like, well, then show me why. What about you is so special that I need to do that, you know? And most of them get intimidated because i don't want their money and their money's a great way for a man to make a power play on a girl that's true you're in a different dynamic i was talking to danica patrick about this because she has money too it's tough for a woman with money actually to date yeah and she's an amazing racer by the way yeah but no there's actual studies on

this that women with money struggle dating we just we don't need you we need you to provide an interest if you can intrigue our minds make us laugh cook like for me i'm like i travel so much to all my stuff in my life is like in different suitcases and different rooms or different storage units or wherever i am and i just need like a partner that's like i have to strive at like helping organize i'll be like i'm gonna suck you're gonna be my boyfriend right and then again it's back to no more and i'm like you've watched me for the last 16 years you have me sucking your all the time you and yet you don't want me to doesn't work well since you're romantic and the scenes are pretty romantic i could see why they get jealous oh and i picked why and that's the part like i should have to tell them i don't have a choice i think would probably help them

right because if you tell them you have a choice then they're like oh so you actually enjoy it and i'm like no i love it but i I'm like, no, I love it. But I'm like, yeah, of course, I'm going to go work with like Scott Nails today and it's going to be a great day. And like he's my friend and I know his kids and I know like family stuff about them. It's and then after the scene, we're all going to go eat and like maybe have a drink, maybe not. But like they like to smoke. You know, you're losing me on this argument i think i'm siding with the guy you're siding with the guy you're spending a whole day with your partner

man well my thing is like i make sure my partner meets the guys too or does that make it weirder that makes it weirder honestly just because i'm putting myself in that position and it's kind of like an ego shot i guess you got to put your ego to the side but still it's it's weird you know well i mean no one's gonna have a like lexington still right like a random guy is not gonna have a lexington still and it's like i need that for because first of all it makes me look small and i like to look small sometimes because everyone thinks i'm a giant Amazon. And I'm like, I'm little.

Still, you know, it's like one of those things. I'm like, I want to be treated like I'm little. And so like bigger make me look little. Small guys can't like I actually was really mean recently to a guy I flipped. It just came out and he had a small for and how small like four like four and a half five right at and one of you let me flip him so i already have to do the degrading thing because it's kind of like a hot and mean thing but the other part is me going you have such a small we should have made the scene that's the only way you're gonna be be able to Superman on me like Jordy did. Damn.

Like, that's just one of the lines from the scene. And that wasn't part of the script? No. Oh, he must have felt like s***. Oh, I was just going in on him. He's like, yeah, you were kind of mean. Because I saw him at X-Fiz. And I was like, oh, I was?

I'm like, I was just being honest. And then I just, like, left it alone. Because I'm not going to take it back. And that's what I said. And I was was like it should have been and you're too small to like reach my damn a lot of guys watching this are going to be upset i mean just okay yeah because a lot of guys have fours fives you know is there a minimum you like on the side screen so you like seven plus i'm a a seven, like eight. Great. If you have more, I'm going to be happy.

I can just take it, right? So when somebody's like, oh, I can't do like dread, for instance, I just look and go. And I haven't worked with dread. He has 12, right? Yeah. But I took Mandingo, who has 12. Damn. And like took him all the way down my throat. Holy crap.

I'm the first person to ever deep throat Mandingo all the way down. throat holy crap i'm the first person ever deep throat demanding all the way down and you didn't gag no that's impressive i'm like i don't have a gag reflex okay i lost that a long time ago i got trained by my ex the one in ramon we were living together and he's like mommy in order to be a big famous star you have to be able to deep throat and i'm like what is that and he goes the deep spit and so he would make me throw up all over our bed and i'm like he's like you didn't get it open your throat and like literally held my neck and then he like slid his in there and he goes see and then he goes now hold your breath so we did like a timer thing me and my wolf rara at one point

because he has such a wide girthy one like you can't get air in so i've learned that i can breathe around it's very easy like once it's in you can literally open up more so you can breathe still while they're like you know wow like everyone's just like how the i have a really big long neck and I have a big mouth. That is crazy. Does all 12 fit in the shoe? No. Okay. So there is.

Yeah, that's a type. It was a myth, but it's not. Oh, no. Like there's definitely like bottoming out. And then it's like I have a video of Lex f***ing me and I'm just inching off the couch more and more and more. And everyone's like, why are you running? I'm like, I'm not running. He's hitting me and it's sliding and I'm covered in lube. What do you expect?

Oh, my God. He tore me my first time ever. I told Lex ahead of time. I'm like, Lex, I have a very tight. Yeah, you have a very big apparently. And I didn't want to see it ahead of time. He goes, you want to see my now? And I'm like, no, he goes, just watch your teeth.

My scarring on it from girls like chipping their teeth on his damn that's gross yeah i was like ah i was like you know my mouth's really big you'll be fine there i'm all but my won't be fine sure enough got part of the way in i was like he goes holy that feels good and i'm like oh it does not i'm like holding on the door frame oh my god jules roden's house and then lex went all the way in and then did two strokes blood i didn't know you could tear from sex i thought because my cousin tore during childbirth i thought there was only oh no you can tear like so the mucosa actually tore so it literally like just stretched and tore the mucosal tissue inside of me that's

scary yeah have you ever broken it i heard you can you can break if a guy injects them yeah with coverjet trimix there's a lot of different injectables that some male talent used to cheat as i call it like if you have to inject your probably shouldn't be on set yeah that's sketchy i've seen those pumps or whatever oh like yeah when the guy has them like a pump and they're like hitting the side or underneath it's now hidden kind of underneath the testicles and then it'll be like oh i don't do reverse i know why you don't do reverse is because it'll show the unit that you have that you have a fake that's crazy i would never get it enlarged you know yeah i feel like it takes away the pleasure. Oh, well, not just that, but it's like, this is me. Like, I don't want to sit there and oversensitize my area, you know?

Like, something like this would work, right? Because it's just like a natural supplement where having a pump. Now, as you get older, you may notice that, like, the need for a ring because the backflow isn't there. Or and that's where like you something like gainsway for instance so i don't know if you know how to know the medical side of melissa so there's phoenix marie and then there's melissa with the medical side and uh i actually am one of the only non-doctor clinicians trained to do it and what it does is it uses eswt extracorporeal shockwave therapy which which is actually meant for ligament tears.

And that's what they used it for, as well as clearing plaques in the heart in surgeries. So heart doctor said, I wonder what would happen if I put it on my produndal artery, which are the two main arteries that fill the corpus cavernosum. So if you have plaque down there because you're getting older you're having issues it literally allows you to fully engorge so most guys will get a size increase and really it's about an inch like girth and an inch length just because of and it's all natural like it's nothing you're doing you're not taking supplements for it wow it's just because you now have better blood flow interesting i gotta look into that for my friends yeah yeah but it's just because you now have better blood flow interesting i gotta look into that for my friends yeah yeah but it's like something and it's real and it works and it's not gonna

hurt you causes no harm you're fine the same day like there's no like limits because i'm all about doing non-invasive stuff i'm all especially like aesthetically i try to be holistic as possible i'm not a fan of facial procedures and stuff. Yeah, no. I saw you got the exosomes, so I thought that was cool. Yeah. One of my girlfriends owns that clinic in London with her brother. So Dr. Duku and then Viviana owns Genevieve.

And she's like, listen, let me just do exosomes into your face. I'm like, how do you do them? She's all, it's a cold blast. Yeah. And so it freezes into your cells. And I'm like, oh like oh okay it's not micro kneeling it's nothing like that i was like yeah i'm gonna be 43 like i'm down to try like anti-aging i'm into that stuff yeah i'm looking into stem cells i actually heard some girls get

stem cells in their um i don't know if you heard of that so prp platelet-rich plasma is your own natural stem cells so there's exosomes which is a byproduct of actual Wharton's jelly, right? So if you take that, you break it down. So Wharton's jelly is the cow. Exosomes are the milk, right? So they're all beneficial. The deal is if you're going to do something like that, make sure you're under the age of 50, 45 to 50, because after that, your platelet-rich plasma isn't as, it's only as good as how old you are, right?

Now, if you can get an umbilical cord, Wharton's jelly, which they do have in a lot of different places, your best bet is to go to a different country because it's actually banned here in the States. I heard that, yeah. Yeah. So I wouldn't put it in myucosal tissue my if anything i do something like of a vive which is again another cold plast using a thermage type of vibe so it's just shrinking down mucosal tissue so you have better sensation down there for women and

after childbirth a lot of girls have like tears inside of them so this can actually help heal the tears as well damn look at you you know your stuff i do i'm really cool to see this side of you right i'm like it's not just okay i have a brain i love that that's one of the things is dr dick who's like let's open some clinics in vegas and do a whole bunch of fun stuff and i'm like i'm in yeah that sounds fun phoenix been a blast Where can people watch you or find you? F***.com, Phoenix Marie, and everywhere else on the internet, guys. Love it. Thanks so much for coming on.

Thank you. Thanks for watching, guys. As always, see you tomorrow.