Digital Social Hour - Private Jets: The $100K Secret Most Entrepreneurs Miss | Sarah Naska DHS #976

Episode Date: December 13, 2024

Discover how private jets could be your secret weapon in business - and why most entrepreneurs are missing out on this game-changing opportunity! 🛩️ Join Sarah Naska, a former private flight attendant turned aviation broker, as she reveals the insider secrets of the private jet industry and how it can transform your business success. From starting as a flight attendant to building her own aviation empire, Sarah shares the unexpected ways private aviation can be more accessible and profitable than you think. Get ready for exclusive insights into the world of private aviation, entrepreneurship, and scaling businesses to new heights. Sarah breaks down how she turned a midlife crisis into a thriving aviation brokerage, serving elite clientele and creating incredible networking opportunities along the way. Learn why private jets aren't just about luxury - they're about buying back your time and creating game-changing connections. Whether you're an aspiring entrepreneur or seasoned business owner, this episode is packed with actionable insights about leveraging private aviation for business growth. Discover how Sarah transformed her career from serving on private jets to owning her own brokerage, and why this $100K secret could be the missing piece in your business strategy. Ready to take your business to new heights? Watch now to learn how private aviation could be your ticket to unprecedented success! 🚀 #cirrusvisionjet #gulfstream #dayinthelifeofanentrepreneur #entrepreneur #howtostartabusiness CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Sarah's Move to LA 01:05 - How Sarah Got Into Aviation 05:24 - Leaving the Church 09:38 - Growing Up in a Single Parent Household 11:00 - Leaving a Relationship Too Late 14:35 - Cryptocurrency Investment Insights 15:40 - Speaking at Mosaic Church 18:14 - Exploring Religion and Spirituality 22:47 - Cancer Journey and Awareness 26:18 - Your Relationship with Death and Grief 30:21 - Traveling to Costa Rica 31:27 - Personal Development Strategies 32:55 - Video Games and Emotional Control 34:34 - Starting a Podcast Journey 36:35 - Successful Female Entrepreneurs' Traits 37:56 - Overcoming Limiting Beliefs 40:48 - Sarah's Favorite Podcasts and Music 42:07 - Where to Find Sarah Online APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: [e-mail] GUEST: Sarah Naska https://www.instagram.com/thesarahmarie1 https://www.thesarahmarie.net/ LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ Digital Social Hour works with participants in sponsored media and stays compliant with Federal Communications Commission (FCC) regulations regarding sponsored media. #ad Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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The church is very divided. I wonder what causes there to be so much different separation. And made rules, denominations, right? Everybody kind of has their own spin. Their expression of worship is gonna look very different, but then it kind of breaks down to what their Fundamental beliefs are we don't believe in praying in tongues or we don't believe in miracles for today

Or and so they kind of pick and choose some things out of the Bible what they do and don't agree with based on their personal experience All right guys got Sarah here from LA. You ready to do this thing? Let's do it. What you been up to lately? Several things. Thanks for having me on your podcast. I'm super excited to be here.

I just made the move out to LA. So I'm coming from Savannah, Georgia. Big change. Huge change. White knuckled an RV across the US, out West with my kids and the dog to start a new brokerage out in Los Angeles. Okay, real estate.

So I work in real estate finance investments. I also have a brokerage, SMH aviation for corporate aviation. That sounds cool. How'd you get into aviation? Yeah, so that I got into aviation about 10 years ago. It was kind of like a midlife crisis. In my mid 30s, I was like, getting so crazy and wanting to travel a lot more. So I was like, what could I do? I was already working in finance, investments in real estate, and executive leadership development, but I was like, what do I want to do?

So I looked into kind of like, what's the best way to make the most money and travel? So I looked into private aviation for flight attending and I started doing flight attending for private owners and charter companies and traveled across the country, across the globe and internationally. So I just started my foot there. I worked myself up from management, from the bottom up to management and then elite clientele. And then I decided to start my own brokerage

after 10 years. Good for you. Started from the bottom that we hear. Start from the bottom, to management and then elite clientele. And then I decided to start my own brokerage after 10 years. So yeah. Yeah. Started from the bottom that we hear. Start from the bottom, go to the top. Let's go. Yep. That's cool.

Yeah, that's the cool thing about the aviation business. You get to travel the world. Yeah, it was a really amazing experience. It's, you know, less than 1% get to experience that kind of lifestyle and you get to see a lot. You get to experience a lot and it was just really cool. A lot of cool stories for sure. I bet, yeah, we'll have to dive into some of those. What caused that midlife crisis though,

you mentioned? I mean, I was just working a lot with paperwork and I was doing a lot of church work and I was just on my computer a lot working with people and I just wanted to see the world. I grew up traveling so I just really wanted to get out and do more. I have a curious mind so I kind of hit that stage. I was like, let's tackle a new project. Let's get new challenges going. And so yeah, I started out doing flight attending. And then I hit my kind of stride there for about 10 years. Was it a specific airline you started up? So these were private owners and charter companies.

So through aviation, you can hire a jet as a charter or a lease back. And you can work that as a contract. So I did contract work said yes or no to any flight that I wanted to do and kind of just built up my clientele from there through aviation brokerages across the country or private owners that had a jet that wanted a flight girl. I like that. I'd rather do that than work for commercial airline. I would not do commercial if my life depended on it.

Yeah, no offense to those employees, but they don't look happy sometimes. I personally couldn't deal with the anxiety of being on a plane like that. I don't even like traveling commercial, let alone wanting to work in it for my day job. So yeah, that was the thought behind it when I went private.

I was like, I don't wanna deal with chaos and craziness, but I wanna make a lot of money so I can invest it and then travel. And then in that, I just fell in love with aviation more and more. And the client's hell kind of crossed over because I was working in finance and assets. So I just bring my computer.

I talk to the clients on the plane. I would work on my investments when I got to Hawaii. I'd sit for a week, make some good money. What a great life. I would. So it was a good run for a lot of years. That's so cool. It was a very good run.

I'm big on energy and when I'm in an airport or like a public flight, it's like really tough. It's terrible to have all your energy sucked by other people and your mood is dictated by that. You're trying to work, trying to keep a clear head. It's tough. Private's the way to go. Yeah, when I fly private or semi-private,

because I fly JSX a lot, it's like a way different vibe. It feels amazing. I actually look forward to the flight instead of like dreading it. Yeah, JSX is a good, what, 30 people on there? Yeah, it's super small, but it's like barely any more expensive than like a regular. Yeah, that's the thing.

There's a lot of opportunity in aviation. It's a lot more affordable than people think. Absolutely. And it's, you know, you're buying back your time. Oh yeah. And I'm sure you got to network with some amazing people while you were going out. Between the FBOs and on the flights itself,

or the locations that you go because you're an elite jet or elite clientele, you get a lot of exposure, a lot of networking is involved. And yeah. What's the FBO? A lot of great opportunities. A private airport. Oh. Yeah, the private airports are called FBOs.

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Yeah, it was fun. What a time. Yeah, it was so fun. You said you used to work at the church a little bit? Yeah, so I did executive leadership development and I worked in, we had a church for 20 plus years. We did ministry, so yeah. You still doing that or no?

No, I actually quit the church about a year ago, year and a half ago, formally as a career and focused solely on corporate America. Got it. Dabbling into both industries for 25 years. Was that a tough choice for you? It was, but it was, there was a lot of tough choices around it, but leaving the organization

of salary church life that I didn't, I don't miss that at all. That's my one qualm with churches actually. Yeah. Like the payouts and stuff. Yeah. So what is it that you, what is your? Just I hear these stories of like these mega churches and how they're using the money

and the owners are buying expensive things or whatever. And it's like, I don't know. I'd love to hear your perspective on that if that happens. Yeah, so in my perspective, I think that the church is very similar to a business corporation. You have to run it as such in the sense that you have to have overhead to supply everything

that's gonna go on in what you're doing. Most churches, if they're really functioning well, they're gonna be doing a lot of community outreach and events, you need people that are willing to work 40, 50, 60 hours to do the grunt work of service, going into people's houses, cleaning for them, doing yard work, whether it's events that you put on,

this takes hours of time like you would expect for any other corporate vendor to go to an air show. It takes hours and days and weeks to do a lot of this stuff, planning for years. So it turns into a business because you need people to work it and people can't live off of 20, 30, $40,000 a year anymore. And so the church is a nonprofit, so the nonprofit doesn't really bring in a lot of money. So then they're constantly trying to get donations. So there's obviously an abuse of power in a lot

of churches and a lot of mega churches, and I've seen stuff too that makes me Want to throw up, you know, I'm just like, yeah Thank God I am not associating God with that kind of church because that's not who God is that's an expression of ego excessiveness, maybe grandiose personalities or Just you know gluttony whether it's money or food or whatever it is so I Definitely can see why people would have a thought about that in a negative way, because most people, when you see it, it's kind of gross. But

ultimately, the people that are really doing a lot in the community, there's a lot of really good, solid churches that need money to support communities and that can sit with people that are going through hard seasons that need that pastoral care, the hospital visits. So I'm a firm believer in the organization of the church. I think it should be an expression of who you are as a person. And, you know, everybody's got to eat. So I think people should be fed and paid well if they're in service, because I don't think just because they're doing stuff people don't want to do that it's not highly valuable. I can see that. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Yeah, I could definitely get behind that. I think the mega churches are where it gets a little extreme.

Yeah, and I think it's just more people, more money to manage and more opportunities to kind of take advantage of situations. But yeah, ultimately, it's just like anything else. You need money to pursue something that your vision is to go forward. Absolutely. So church has been a big part of your life growing up and everything too?

Yeah. I was raised in the church by a single mom and she lived a radical life and she made a lot of radical choices. She actually left my dad when I was two from an abusive relationship. She had three kids under the age of eight and went to a women's house for abused women and children, troubled teens, and left in the middle of the night. This was early 80s when there was no laws to protect against domestic abuse for a partner. So she didn't have any support or help. So she went to a shelter.

She started to rebuild her life. She stayed with family and friends, extended friends, and then decided to put herself through college. So I learned a lot about faith through my mom, through her life, and she raised me with my foundation of faith. Humble beginnings. Yeah, humble beginnings for sure. Wow. Yeah, I grew up in a single parent household too.

I hear a lot of guys talk about it. I've never heard a female actually talk about growing up in a single parent household. Yeah. I mean, she's obviously, she was my hero and she lived a beautiful life. And I can't imagine the stuff she had to go through in the season of life and the economic times that she was in, in the governmental time. This is an ad from BetterHelp. This holiday season, do something for a special person in your life. You. Give yourself the gift of better mental health.

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So I really highly respect her. I found myself too in a single parent situation, which is something I never expected. I was married for 23 years. Wow. And so now I'm kind of mirroring her life, parent situation, which is something I never expected. I was married for 23 years. And so now I'm kind of mirroring her life, which in itself is super weird to think about. But it's actually really beautiful and powerful,

because I took a lot of her life lessons. And I don't look at it as a hindrance or a handicapped. I think I'm like, this is amazing. I have my amazing kids. I get to choose what I want to do and think how I want to think and lead my life and lead my kids into a legacy that I feel is lasting and powerful. I don't feel like it's a handicap for me.

Clearly I would love a male support. They're important. I think men and women are better together 100% and I think a woman should not necessarily be doing it on her own. But if it comes down to it, I think there are choices that need to be made and I think a woman should not necessarily be doing it on her own. But if it comes down to it, I think there are choices that need to be made. And I think if it comes to that, then that's OK. And I feel really good about it.

Yeah. If the other partner's not stepping up, it could actually be doing more harm than good, right? So it depends on the situation. 100%. More damage can be done by staying than actually taking the leap of faith to leave. And I think a lot of people stay too long.

Oh yeah, I think I stayed probably eight years too long. Whoa, that's a long time. So you had the thought eight years prior. I looked back through journals and I had been writing the same feelings for about 12 to 15 years. When I packed up to move out West in LA, I thought, oh my gosh, this is 2009, this is 2011.

So yeah, I have endurance, so I'm pretty good at stuff. 2009, this is 2011. So yeah, I have endurance, so I'm pretty good at stuff. Yeah, I can tell. So I endured a little bit in that marriage and I'm sure he did too because we were not compatible in the long run. A lot of factors that play into that, but yeah. Definitely. You think you were growing faster than he was?

Oh yes, and that's actually a conversation we had years earlier, but yeah, I outgrew him for sure. That's common in relationships. One person's going a little quicker and the other one is comfortable at that stage, right? Yeah, it's easy to do when you divide and conquer and you try to build an empire together and you're like, oh, you do this, I'll do that

and let's come back in the middle. And that was kind of what we had done in that season. But yeah, personal development is super important to relationships that are lasting. And if you get together super young in a relationship, like I was 20, he was 19, and now I'm 44, I have a very different mindset on things at 44 than I did at 20.

100%. Based on life experience. So yeah, I'm a firm believer in mental health and doing the inner work and doing the deep dive and so that you don't sabotage your relationships and you can build on what you know, a lasting legacy. Absolutely. Build on love and life.

And personal development's needed at every level. Some people think just because they're super rich, they don't need it, but. No, I think the richer you are, the more you need it because you don't want to outgrow your wealth. You don't want to be your own cap to your own ceiling. And yeah. I agree.

I see a lot of people with big egos and it's like, dude, that's going to ruin you in a long run. Pride comes before a fall. And the egomaniac or the ego that leads the way is definitely going to be the one that leads the way is definitely gonna be the one that falls first. Yeah, you gotta keep it under control and I feel it creeping up even to this day.

It's something that's like an ongoing thing. Oh, it is and like this is a silly reference but I was in like the Louis Vuitton store with a girlfriend, she was buying a gift for another friend and I could feel this materialism thing just kind of jumping on me and I was like, oh my gosh, like I want this and I want that. I want this and I started feel this materialism thing just kind of jumping on me. And I was like, oh my gosh, like I want this and I want that, I want that.

And I started feeling this thing and I'm in Vegas and I'm like, ah, ah, ah. And I'm like, I step out of the store, I'm like, holy cow, that was powerful. Obviously didn't buy anything, but I listened to my body of how I felt in the environment and I was like, dang, there's some materialism going on here, this is crazy.

And I step out of that. Yeah, not just Vegas, any major city. Yeah, not just Vegas, any city, but the feeling of it, knowing that I don't usually want this stuff. Now I'm in here, I'm like, I want it, I want it. I mean, they got it down to the science, but with the lighting, the music, the smell,

the people in there, and who you're with can also influence you. So they got it down. Even gambling, they want you to gamble and they'll get you on the tables. Yeah, definitely pulling at that you on the tables. Yeah. Definitely pulling at that moral compass for sure. Yeah.

I don't gamble. I don't either. I like to invest my money. I don't like to spend it on things. But if it's in entertainment, maybe you're at a slot machine, or maybe you want to play blackjack or something, you have $1,500. Whatever, your entertainment budget, you can do it.

But as a whole, I'm not into that kind of stuff. That's different, yeah. What have you been investing in lately? So crypto obviously is taking a massive job. It coins at 84,000 I am literally shocked. I was just texting my guy in Miami today. I just sold on my last week I'm kind of upset. No, that's why I was texting him. I should I was like I should have just held on Are you sold? I sold a lot over the last year and a half because it was crazy. You know, you lost money. I lost money. And now that there's a new administration in there,

I think it's going to look very different back to 2020 type of times or before 2020 when we were trading a lot better. So I think that's going to be a good thing. Yeah, if you could withhold that bear market that lasted two, three years, you're chilling right now. I have a little bit still, you're chilling right now.

I have a little bit still, but not what I had. But let's see, I'll log in and see what it's at. We'll see what happens. This next bull run is going to be crazy. I think I'll hit 100k. You think so? Yeah, it's already at 84. Yeah, it's the highest it's ever been, right?

Yeah. Trump's not even in office yet. No, I know. This administration is going to do some wild things. Based on the world leaders that have joined on so far It's pretty impressive to see the support that he's received from across the world. Yeah, maybe not so much in our home country, but Yeah, the average person I think some people like and some people don't but live in an LA I get a little more of an earful. Yeah, so I spoke at a church in LA a couple weeks ago spoke a mosaic

Oh, yeah, I was actually there., you were there? I was in the audience, yes. Oh, that's hilarious. I signed up because they asked me to go to the leadership advance for the church because I go to Mosaic. Okay. That's where I go to church. Wow, small world.

I started going there. Yeah, so I went because of you. That's awesome. And because of them. Interesting audience for me, obviously, because that's a super liberal audience. And you know. Yeah.

So just speaking there was interesting. Yeah, how did you feel when you left? Great, people were coming up to me saying I was like really cool honestly. Good response. Yeah, so I was like, all right. Yeah, you did incredible, it was great. It was my first time on a stage that big.

Living the dream. Yeah, Irwin's a great guy. He's amazing, I love that family. I know I don't really know them that well, but I followed them for like 30 years, back before online was a thing. Wow. We had cassette tapes back in the 80s and 90s He actually was like a part of my Bible college

And so like he would speak at it and come in and go out in Florida in 2000 So I remember him for a lot of years Yeah He just came on last week and just hearing his story about how he was doing his work for 15 years making minimum wage Yeah, like a while He's the original hard worker. You just see him just plowing. And they're also so relevant and they're so creative.

The family is so gifted in communication and just what they bring to the world in general. It's beautiful to see. He's so knowledgeable. And it's healthy. He's a healthy leader. I'm telling you, I've been a part of the church for so many years.

He's changed my opinion on church, to be honest. Incredible. And for what I come under, because I had a lot of spiritual abuse and a lot of religious stuff over the years, for me to sit under his leadership has been extremely healing. That's awesome.

And empowering, because some people would be so embittered at the church for all the things that I've experienced and just walk away completely from God. But it's like, if you can find a healthy leader and learn and glean from them as a person and then spiritually apply it to your life, you will, you'll have an experience and a life change for sure. A lot of people tie their identity to their church that they attend. Oh yeah. And so if that crumbles or the person that you're following crumbles and all of a sudden there's hurt and people, you know, just fall off. They fall through

the cracks through hurt and disillusionment a lot of times, especially in the religious circle. So yeah. Yeah, because then you blame the whole religion. Yeah, you turn your back on God. And it's like, hey, that was a person who was in their ego. Yep. Don't turn your back on God.

He still loves you. You know what I mean? Yeah, I do believe in something now. I think I said at that talk I was atheist before the show. I heard you say that. I didn't know. I didn't know a ton about your spiritual history. That's awesome.

Yeah, well, I went to church a little bit. But as a kid, you're bouncing off the walls. Church setting is not really conducive. It depends on also the environment. You saw mosaics, very different environment. Oh, yeah. If you go on a Sunday, kids can bounce around. Really? So they just let them wander around? I mean not wander but like they have their own kids space but like if they were brought into worship they

would be allowed to bounce around it wouldn't be controlled like hey don't do that like it's a very free environment. That's cool. So depending on where you go it might be a different experience. Yeah yeah I really found my purpose through uh through God. I love that I think I think it's just about a matter of time for you. People are going to argue with theology all day long, but they cannot argue with the change life. You can't argue with my experience. I had this experience.

You can't argue with that. And I've seen so many miracles. It's not a certain point. It's like, is that a miracle? What was your miracle that was most eye-opening or that you didn't think could be explained away? I've had a couple near-death experiences. I've witnessed people recover from stage four cancer. I've just seen surgeries that,

the likelihood of you surviving and they survive. Just like so many stories like that. It's like at a certain point, is that a miracle or was that supposed to happen? Yeah, I think God is, I just God and I think he cares and I think he listens to people when they pray So that's that's amazing. You're experiencing Many more yeah, what did you use to write? Like what do you mean just like silly stuff when I was a kid if my stomach hurt

I would pray if I felt lonely I'd pray but I used to pray a lot. That's amazing every day I mean, that's what that's what it is. It's just relationship, right? It's not a place to go, an organization, or an experience. It's literally just relationship. It's you communicating how you communicate to a living God that hears you and responds in His way. Yeah, a lot of the stuff would come true, to be honest. Yeah. So I think it's a form of manifestation too. Yeah. I mean, manifestation, I think sometimes people, it depends on the side of church you're on. Some of these words can get like caught up in translation with certain religions. Like they think visualization and manifestation and some of these things are all occultic. Really? Yeah. It

depends on how extreme of the faith you're in. I've been in a few circles that are pretty extreme. But with that said, like, there is so much to it with scripture. It's like, it says in scripture to call things that are not as though they are. Well, what is that? What is calling something that's not as if it is manifesting or calling a vision, being a visionary and visualizing it forward. So there's so many scriptures that back up that stuff. So I firmly believe it, but it's one of those things that depending on who you talk to, they'll say, is that demonic? Wow.

Are you really worshiping God? Are you, you know, are you new age? Yeah, that's good to know. So there's a lot of division within the, oh yeah. The church is very divided. Huh? Yeah. I wonder what causes there to be so much different separation.

Well, man-made rules, denominations, right? Everybody kind of has their own spin, whether it's an assembly of God versus a Baptist versus a Protestant or Presbyterian. Their expression of worship is going to look very different. It's going to be quieter if you're a Presbyterian. Now, if you're at Mosaic, it's gonna be loud and all kind of music.

So they kind of divide on those little things, carpet colors, pews, children's ministry, but then it kind of breaks down to what their fundamental beliefs are. We don't believe in praying in tongues or we don't believe in miracles for today. And so they kind of pick and choose some things out of the Bible,

what they do and don't agree with based on their personal experience, and then they teach off of that. And there's a lot of pastors that do that. I could see that because a lot of the Bible is subjective, right? It's not very subjective. It's left for interpretation and based on how you're filtering it, you can see things. Yeah. That's super interesting. Yeah. So I guess you really got to do your research on where you go to church. Yeah, I think the big thing is trusting your intuition, trusting your gut. If you feel like you're in the right spot, you'll know it. I was gonna check out a bunch of churches

when I moved to LA and I realized, I was like, oh my gosh, I forgot, Erwin lives here. Oh my gosh, I remember I went to Beverly Hills High School years ago when he was here. Oh, I'll go Sunday. So I took my kids and we went and it was amazing. I was like, I don't need to check out anybody else. Like there's a lot of great pastors in LA,

but I'm like, I don't need to sit in any other leader. Like he is healthy, he's sound, he's amazing. We're good, we found home. So yeah, you'll know when you find home. That's cool. You dealt with a major surgery? Oh yeah, this last year I had cervical cancer. So I dealt with that.

Yeah. Sorry to hear that. Yeah, it's okay. It was just kind of like, hey, you last year I had cervical cancer. So I dealt with that. Yeah. Sorry to hear that. Yeah, it's OK. It was just kind of like, hey, you got to deal with this. Erwin went through that too. Yeah. First time he came on the show, he talked about it. Yeah.

You don't expect to kind of go through something like that. I've dealt with cancer a lot. I actually lost my mom to breast cancer 12 years ago. My ex-partner, husband, had stage four cancer. And I dealt with that during COVID. So there's a lot of touch points with cancer in my life through extended family or friends. And yeah, so I dealt with it and I was just like, well, I guess we're doing it. And it's just basically they took out my female organs basically left my left my ovaries, but I'm

still a lady. But yeah, it was a surgery. They did a hernia, they had to fix a hernia and a bladder issue that they found in there from a C-section from years ago. But yeah, so they fixed it all and then we're good. That's it, we're ready to rock. Was that the scariest moment of your life? No, honestly, I didn't really care.

Really? I didn't. You were fearful. I mean, I was just like, this is something else I have to muscle through. I had just walked through a divorce, which was terrible. I had just left a church community, which was terrible. I left all my friends and family, which was terrible. I've lost my sister, I've lost my mom.

There's a lot of terrible things. A lot of loss. Yeah, so that wasn't terrible. I was conditioned kind of more like, ugh. So you kind of got numb to the loss? Not necessarily numb, but just like, this isn't that hard. This is doable. I can do this. I'm not gonna stress about this. It's the surgery. So you kind of got numb to the loss? Not necessarily numb, but just like, this isn't that hard.

This is doable. I can do this. I'm not going to stress about this. It's a surgery. I'm going to keep my mental health clear. We're ready to rock. Let's heal, recover, and move forward. Wow.

That's kind of the approach I took with it. Was that genetic, you think, the cancer? Yeah, I think there's some genetic stuff going on there. I actually have a genetic doctor that's trying to do all these tests in LA. And I'm like, I don't want to know. Sometimes it's better. I promise you that. I'm's trying to do all these tests in LA and I'm like I don't want to know Sometimes it's better. I promise you that I'm not gonna live in fear. So thank you, but let's call that test off But yeah, a lot of females in my family have dealt with a lot of stuff like this Whether it's breast cancer or cervical cancer endometriosis things like that. Yeah, sometimes ignorance is bliss. I like to live that world

Ignorance is bliss. I mean, I just got a Pernuvo scan. It's like a thing in LA. Oh, yeah? Like a preventative thing. Oh, yeah. I've heard about that. Yeah. But a couple of things came up.

And I'm like, damn, this whole week I've been thinking about it, I got to be careful because I don't want to actually manifest this disease into me. Yeah. I think don't stress in that way because fear obviously is false evidence appearing real, right? So there's no reason to be in fear about something of hypotheticals, and that's the thing.

You gather the information, make educated decisions, and move forward in faith. Just make a clear thought and move forward. But ultimately, everything has to be kind of just compartmentalized, because if you let it rule your whole life, you can. And some people do. And they get stuck in that.

And that's OK, but that's not where I want to be. And Google's a dangerous place sometimes. When you're looking up these- Don't Google. I know, like, no, for real, because I'm pretty holistic and natural, but when you Google these curves for like disease and stuff, none of that pops up.

It's all like- No, it doesn't. Even my doctors, I have hormone doctors, and I was trying to do holistic, even with this surgery, and he gave me, he's like, I'll give you till June, it has to be done by June. So I started holistic from January till April. I ended up doing it at the end of April

cause I was moving, I decided to move. But he was like, everything looking a lot better than I thought. So, you know, I think the holistic approach is the way to go if you can do it. But obviously if it's life threatening, you need surgery, you need chemo, do what you gotta do. Agreed, agreed.

Life is the end goal, quality of life. So what's your relationship with death after seeing it so many times? You know what, it's funny because for a lot of years, I had kind of like a death wish, if that makes sense. Not that I wanted to die, but I was just not afraid to die. And I was like, life is good, but I'm good. I can go whenever.

Like, I love- You felt like you did everything. I just felt like it was good, but it's not that good. You know,, life is good, but I'm good. I can go whenever. Like I love- You felt like you did everything. I just felt like it was good, but it's not that good. You know, like life is good, but I've done it all. I've had kids, it's good, you know? But for me, like in the last few years when I started doing a lot of really peeling back, personal development, I really started to start

to feel differently about life, which is wild. As the layers started to kind of peel off through vulnerability and transparency of just digging deep into these stuff that I've dealt with, I started to love life. And now I'm like, oh my gosh, I don't want to die. That's terrible. That's a terrible thought.

And so it's funny because I have more of a healthy fear of death than I've ever felt because I definitely don't want to die. And it scares me now to think about it. It's like you find a second wind almost. Yeah, I feel like I felt like I came back to life and I rediscovered my purpose. I felt like I was dead for a lot of years. I think I went through a little mini phase of that.

I used to think about dying a lot and who would care? Like who would be at my funeral type thing? But I really have that thought anymore. Now I'm just so in the moment. Well, you will definitely have a lot of people at your funeral. Not at the time when I was having these thoughts. I would have like six people. No, but I honestly, it's funny because my cancer journey, like the small little one that it was in April, I had very little support and I had a church. I mean, I did nonprofit for 25 years. I did missions overseas. I've done so much to serve people. And after I quit the church, and there was a lot of divide

with that social circle because of me being a pastor's wife and things like that. It was a very, it was very lonely. I had like two girlfriends reach out, bring me dinners. I had two girlfriends from the church. I had one girlfriend reach out to me from Canada. She came down for the surgery and my sister and my cousin, that was it. Wow. A handful of people, which is something that, you know, you're like, dang, if I did die, that was sad. But I also just made a life, huge life change and I wouldn't have wanted

the support from all those other people. Yeah. Because they weren't authentic and they clearly, it wasn't a genuine relationship where they would have been there, right? It was just in active service to them, not to me. 100%. Sometimes it's good not to have a lot of friends, I think.

Yeah, you know, I try to keep my circle small, like Jesus. How small was his? Well, he had 12 and then the 12 disciples and then he had three, Peter, James, and John. And then John was the closest. It was like one, had the intimate connection with Jesus. So it was like the 12, and then the inner circle was three, and then the closest one was John.

I like that, a little three tiered system, 12, three, and then one. So we should model our lives like that, and our businesses can function pretty well off that too. I would say I'm actually pretty close to that system. I got one guy I can count on with everything, three close friends and maybe like 10 friends. That's amazing.

I mean, I only have a handful that you call inner circle. You got your family and your couple that you would tell things to. And it's important to keep it close because you gotta trust people. You know, and you don't have enough margin or energy to give all of yourself to everybody. So reserve it for where you need to put your emotions

and your energy. Yeah, family is a tricky one. I tried to please all my family at one point, but now I realize I need to be a bit more selective. Yeah, I think something I've learned is boundaries, and that's with people pleasing through service over the years, is not being everything to everyone, and that's okay.

I know the Bible says to be everything to everyone. And that's okay. I know the Bible says to be everything to everyone and you can be that, but you don't have to be giving everything that you are to everybody that asks for it. I used to be a huge people pleaser and I still am a little bit, but it was so bad back in the day. Your quality of life is so different. Yeah. When you're worried about what everyone else is thinking and you're just like, I'm just trying to make decisions for myself and lead. Like I wouldn't do this if I didn't want to do this I don't want to do this so yeah keeping your circle small and boundaries strong are very important Absolutely for sure you just went to Costa Rica, right? So I went to Costa Rica for I was research researching out some property that I was looking at to purchase there

There's a 20 acre homestead farm Wow that I to purchase. And it has enough fruit trees on it that's already planted to kind of fund the community and give back. But I wanted to build a retreat center or a burnout center for entrepreneurs that go through extreme burnout or high elite celebrity clientele that need somewhere to go. So I was there researching out some land. I also went to a retreat there with some CEO,

entrepreneur of female women. And it was good. And we were up in the jungle in Uvita. You know, it got rainy and the air went out. And you know, you got bugs in the jungle and the spiders. But it was an amazing experience. Costa Rica's on my bucket list. Yeah, it's definitely worth exploring.

I've been several times, but Uvita is a very cool area. Is that in the rainforest? It's definitely worth exploring. I've been several times, but this Uvita is a very cool area. Is that in the rainforest? It's definitely in the jungle. The ocean's right there, so you get a mix of everything. And it's just got a surfing community. It's really cool people. You're big on personal development, I noticed. You've gone to these retreats and doing a lot of self work.

So I've probably spent close to $100,000 in the last two years on personal development. I had to hire a life coach to get a divorce, because I've probably spent close to $100,000 in the last two years on personal development. I had to hire a life coach to get a divorce, because I didn't know if I was making the right decision. And I hired her for several months prior. And she would help me teach me how to create boundaries. And what does that mean? And then when it doesn't work, what do I do next?

So I'm really big on personal development. And I think people should be healthy in their relationships and in their work environments with corporations. And in the industry that I work in, it's all customer service. And you've got to be healthy in their relationships and in their work environments with corporations. And the industry that I work in, it's all customer service. And you've got to be healthy. Can't get triggered and pop off when somebody doesn't like what you're doing. You've got to just make adjustments

and keep moving forward. Yeah. You've got good emotional control now. Yeah. I feel like I've had decent emotional control throughout my life. I think more compartmentalized than the average woman. But I think you just rein it in and do better.

Yeah, I've always been the opposite. I'm so logical that I don't have enough emotion. But now I'm working on actually being better with that because you can't have none. Yeah, well, that's it. The last couple of years since I started digging, that's when I say I started feeling, I started getting out of my logic brain

and more into my emotional brain. And that's like, oh wow, it's different out here. Yeah, because you can use emotions to kind of, to your benefit actually. Yeah, 100%. Yeah, emotions are a good thing. Yeah, but you can't let it like control you. That's the problem.

No, yeah, you are who you are. Your emotions don't tell you who you are. Your feelings don't dictate who you are. You are who you are, you know? So you kind of have to rise above feelings and thoughts on a regular basis. Absolutely. Actually video games have helped me control my emotions.

Really? Yeah. That's good to hear. Because you can get really mad. Yeah. Well, I was going to say, I feel like that's the opposite because my son plays and he's throwing stuff. And he's screaming.

Dude, calm it down. But I think it's great that it provokes emotion. Yeah. It does provoke it. So it's on the person to control it from there. So yeah, I used to throw stuff and my friend broke a TV in my house once. Dang.

Yeah, it gets heated. You're making some money on that game. Well, now kids are. Really hoping so. Now kids are making a living off video games. Growing up, it was like you got made fun of if you played them. The beauty of social media, the beauty of the internet, the beauty of all the things that's digital, you know.

It's cool to see you adapt to it too, because it probably helps you a ton of business, right? A ton of connections. Yeah, well, it's funny, I was only on it, I got on Instagram last year for the first time. That's late. I was on it a little bit earlier, years earlier, just, I didn't know what it was.

I'm like, what do you do with this? You just play with it? I mean, social media was not a thing when I was growing up. We had, we didn't have cell phones till after college. Wow. We didn't have, we had beepers, pagers. Hmm. I don't even know what that is.

So you literally get this little box and you page your girlfriend, your boyfriend, your friend, and you would text them your number, like call me. And they, when they got it, they're like, oh, I need to call her. Oh, so just be... Then they stopped to a pay phone and they call. Wow.

Anybody over 40 knows this. Crazy. All right, I did have a house telephone. I remember that. Yeah. So yeah. So now that everything's just online, it's been a learning curve for sure. Cause just getting online last year, I'm like, Oh dang, it's not just for play. This is for work. Yeah. And I've utilized it since then. And now I'm scaling it. I'll do a lot more content for the aviation stuff. I love it. A lot more educational space is coming. So yeah, it'll be fun. Do you have a podcast on the plane? No, but we are going to be doing. I have another guy who's an investor, and he is a private pilot as well.

And he does a ton in the brokerage space. We're going to be doing a lot of content, taking ferry flights from LA to Vegas, and just filming on it for fun. We're going to Van Nuys on Friday to film a G5 and just talk about the breakdown, the cost, the price point, fuel hours. Educate people so they know more about private aviation

and kind of what that space looks like and how affordable it can be for an entrepreneur. That's cool. One of the best investments I ever made growing up was in this company called JetSmarter. Oh, yeah. I bought a membership, and I met some amazing people. Yeah, it is amazing.

And what, wasn't it, was that the $900 a month one? Yeah, it was like 15K a year. So yeah, it was 900 a month. Yeah, you buy in and then it's like a decent price point. Yeah, I would be on G4s from New Jersey to Miami. Yeah. And I did that like three times. Yeah, those are amazing brokerages if you can get in.

That's one part of the aviation sector that you can kind of, you know, just do some fractional ownership, leasing the jet, charter it. Obviously, sales looks very different for a different entrepreneur, different purchase price point and different need. Some people are going on vacation, but most people are buying back their time.

For me, it was great because I couldn't afford the whole jet by myself. I was like 20 years old. That's amazing that you're buying a jet. I know, right? Well done. Good job. I wish I'd be the youngest kid on the flight in sweatpants and hoodie and just meet amazing entrepreneurs. I know it's inspirational. Yeah. I

met so many people when I was flying like met some really cool, cool people along the way that challenged me and we're constantly saying, why are you still flying as a girl as the flight girl? I love that. This is the service. I know I work in finance investments, but they're like, no, really. I'm like, no. They're like, get where the real money's at.

And I'm like, I know. But it wasn't until I went through the divorce that I was like, I can't fly and be away from my kids. I got to make the big jump. And so sometimes you have these things in your heart, and kind of life pushes you to go there. And then you're forced to do it, and then it becomes something you're successful at. I love it. and you're around a lot of successful female

entrepreneurs so what do you think separates them from the rest? I think women in general are really incredibly powerful I think if you look at any part of the world where women are congregated whether it's prison whether it's hospitals whether it's in a work world or in a home, they're very creative and resourceful with what they have. And so there's a lot of women that just create businesses out of nothing. Oh, you need a script writer, Ackland Hand Script.

So I think women are very resourceful. And so in the entrepreneur space, I just think women that do the hard work and keep showing up and keep doing the reps every day, those are the ones that stand out. It's the non-negotiables that you keep doing what you're doing not because you want to, because you have your end goal in mind and you're

working your way backwards. You know what I mean? You have your vision for your life. And so with the women that I'm around, it's really inspiring because you get to sharpen each other. And you get to be challenged and encouraged and inspired. I think women are super inspiring. You can do a lot of things and create a lot of different difference in this world, which

a lot of women do that. They give back, whether it's nails, they're giving back to kind of help make another woman look beautiful or whether it's education or women seem to like to rally together. Yeah, that's cool. Do you see them have limiting beliefs about their potential? Oh yeah, there's a lot of limiting beliefs with women still today as a generalization for sure. Women did not even have the ability to work their own company or run their own finance till 1988. Wow, that's... Without a cosigner of their husband or their father

or a male colleague, that's 36 years ago. So they couldn't start a company 36 years ago? They couldn't be their own female-led company with their own female-led financing. Wow. And now I work in private equity and I'm lending money to women that are in the entrepreneur space

that are helping people at a low percentage, super, super low, to give them a hand to kind of scale. And that's just 36 years later. Crazy. And before you need a cosigner. So it's just crazy where we've come from in a short amount of time. Now there can be a women president.

That was on the table this year. 36 years ago, women were just fighting for the right to work. Nuts. Yeah. Yeah, there's going to be a woman president in our lifetime, I think. Yeah, I think so. I a woman president in our lifetime, I think. Yeah, I think so. I think Tulsi Gabbard could have a real shot at it.

There's some solid people out there. Yeah, if not her, I could see, yeah, there's some options. No, it does pose with, like, I've always thought this. Now, I might get some flack for this, but I'm not 100% sure if I think a woman president is the best person. Really? Like, I think if the woman can lead with logic

and not emotion, and that's kind of where the emotions comes in, because I think men do better leading in logic a lot of times. I'm not sure, I'm not sure if a woman would do the same job as a man in that sense. Now together, yes, this is why I love the power couples. Yeah. Because you can sharpen each other, but yeah.

So maybe as a VP or even if she's present though. It will be interesting to see. Now I know there's other prime ministers and people that have done it over the life of the years. But it's just it'll be interesting to see how it does in an American culture, what that looks like. I can see that. Because women are pretty, can be pretty like we've seen it in the last campaign trail. There's a lot of emotions. A lot. A lot of emotions, a lot of

slip ups with their talks. They pop off and say stuff. Not that all women do that, but I think that as a woman myself, I know I have to rein that in. So that could be a potential downfall for a female president. But yeah, I mean, I don't think people should get mad because that's just human nature. That's biology. You can't argue that women are wired differently. Their hormonal cycles a month long. Ours is 24 hours. I know, you get new testosterone every 24 hours, lucky you. You guys, it takes a month,

so I know certain days of the month are gonna be harder than others. I got it in my calendar. Yeah, that's a good man right there. Okay, take some notes, people. You gotta try that stuff for real though, cause you gotta know where they're at so you can act a little differently.

That's amazing, I'm impressed. Maybe surprise them with boba or something that day. I love it. You need to start a leadership program for men. I got to get like, Brad Lee's been giving a lot of dating advice lately. Oh, really? That's hilarious.

He's got a funny show. I've caught up a little bit with him. I haven't watched it lately. That's funny. What have you been watching these days? I'm really into murder crime stuff. Oh, you're one of those girls. It's terrible.

I know. Those podcasts do well. Well, yeah. No, as crime stuff. Oh, you're one of those girls. It's terrible. I know. Those podcasts do well. Well, yeah. No, as far as entrepreneur stuff, that's what I watch on TV sometimes. But entrepreneurs, I like, obviously, the Mind Shift podcast. I love that.

I like Huberman. Yeah, that's cool. Real Estate One's the bigger pocket podcast. I follow certain missionaries that are doing some stuff in the world, and I like listening to their stuff, their stories in the community What they're doing? But yeah, wow, you didn't strike me as a murder mystery

Yeah, I like the science. I like the forensic science side of things Like I like just I'm like I can solve their crimes well before they there's a cold case. I'm like, dude, you missed it How did you miss this? It's so cold case. I'm like should I call somebody there's reddit Communities that solve murders. Did you like should I call somebody? There's reddit communities that solve murders. Did you know that? I've seen it. Yes, TikTok is crazy. You might have to join one of those. With all my extra time. That must be so fulfilling actually like you provided this evidence and it led to a case. Yeah, I mean it probably would. I can't imagine they sleep very well at night in general just because of their line of work. Well, even the detectives, they're seeing all this stuff.

And I can't imagine it being a job I would ever want to be a part of. But watching it secondhand without the graphics stuff is good. I don't want to see the dead body, but I definitely want to kill the killer. Yeah, I feel that. I feel that.

Sarah, where can people find you and keep up with you? Yeah, so I'm passionate about women entrepreneurship. So any entrepreneur that's looking to scale their business, I have a goal setting worksheet that I want to share. So DM me goals on Instagram, I'm thesaraMarie.net, ThesaraMarie on every social site. And if you're interested in corporate aviation or jets or anything with fractional ownership, charters,

or purchasing, thesaraMarie.net, message me the word jet and I'll make sure that I can get to you. We've got off market stuff and on market stuff and all kinds of connections across the globe. So yeah, whatever I can do, get you started, we'll do it. Awesome, we'll link below. Thanks for coming on. Thanks so much for the chat, appreciate you.

Thanks for watching guys. If you wanna fly, hit her up, peace.