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Episode Date: March 2, 2024

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Those journeys only give you what you need, not what you want, but it's still going to change. And sometimes change isn't very fun or easy. In fact, usually change isn't. I was going back to what I just mentioned about thinking versus knowing and it being a reality and being something you fully embody. You become you are in the experience. So you you becomes a knowing for you. Wherever you guys are watching this show, I would truly appreciate it if you follow or subscribe it helps a lot with the algorithm it helps us get bigger and better guests and it helps us grow the

team truly means a lot thank you guys for supporting and here's the episode all right danica patrick greatest female driver of all time now a podcaster and doing some cool things so thanks for coming on thanks sean i'm happy to be here. Absolutely. Your journey has been amazing, honestly. The spiritual side of things really spoke to me. Like you have on some amazing guests on your show. Was that a big part of your life when you were an athlete and even before that, or did it come across later? Yeah, that's a good question. In fact, when I interview drivers now, they usually say, so is this all new or, you know, where did this come from? And it's always been there, but there was just never as much time to dive into it and really, really learn and make it a part of my life.

So it really didn't happen until the last couple of years of my career. Me and my girlfriends got all spiritual and hippie and went to Sedona. But it's always been there. I mean, even when I was a kid, I was buying like, you know, astrology books and getting psychic readings. And I've always been into the metaphysical and the spiritual and the supernatural and the religious and, you know, never believing in any one thing, but always being so curious and skeptical and wanting to learn more. Right. I was super skeptical growing up, not going to lie. Like I didn't believe in any of it,

but having guests like Mateus, who we both had on, Billy Carson and a few others, even some numerologists, it really opened my eyes. Isn't it crazy how they just, they just, they don't make a mistake and they're so clear. There's such a convincing nature to their delivery of the information. I'm actually interviewing Elizabeth April tomorrow. You probably should have her. She lives here in Vegas. Oh, nice.

And she goes into all the spiritual and the extraterrestrial and galactic federation and nature of reality and everything. And so, yeah, it's so interesting how they're able to just hold steady with the story and it always ends up making sense. It really makes you believe it's true. Yeah, no, it is. I've seen some compelling stuff. I even hired a spiritual coach. What? Some people think it's crazy, but yeah.

For what? Just for what? So she has abilities to read into your past lives. Have you done anything with past life? Oh, yeah, sure. Yeah. Elizabeth April does past life regressions and I've had past life regressions and I was pretty into like getting readings of sorts from all kinds of different people for quite a few years. Yeah, for sure. This girl is brilliant. So yeah, I had some past life trauma.

She addressed that. She found out which system I came from. I think I had Syrian. Wait, let me guess. Oh, good. I was going to go ahead and guess for you, but that's great. Okay. And then numerology side, I'm a 33 life path, which I don't really know how to explain that, but it's... Yeah, I don't know numerology very well either. Okay. But yeah, I'm an Aquarius and a bunch of other stuff, but also like I can just run people by her and she'll let me know if it's a good person to work with, be friends with, which is super useful. Does she need their birthday? Does she do a quick read does she do like a an astrology dive to just sort of check them or is it more does she just psychically connect with them yeah all she needs is a picture of their eyes actually and she can

read pets so i i have two dogs she was able to tell me which what problems they have it's awesome she was right yeah she was spot on that's so cool i got to connect with my father who passed away i didn't really have closure with him and it was just really good to get some because that actually hurt me for a bit. Oh, well, I'm sure it was your father. Um, there's just so much more to this reality. And I think that some of the things that I'm really rooted in are truth and like just questioning everything and learning and learning for myself, um, what I believe instead of somebody telling me what to believe. And I think that we're in a part in history right

now where that's becoming more and more prevalent, where people are, um, learning to question things and re realizing that they're not always telling us the truth about everything. And so why would it stop at just, um, politics? Why would it just stop at what's in our food? Why would it stop at just politics? Why would it just stop at what's in our food? Why would it stop at any of those things? It goes on for everything. So the nature of our reality is something that absolutely hits me every day. And I wonder it. I'm like, is this a simulation?

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It was very hilarious. Check them out wherever you listen to podcasts. Another bite. Peace. Looking at a tree or is this just what is this? So I love to dive into that stuff because for me, when you learn more about, well, the truth is we're probably never really going to know, right? Until you die or possibly then. But when you know more about the reality that we're living in, I would like to think that

it means that I would know how to play the game better. So if we were in a matrix, if we were in a matrix, maybe then that would mean that we're already planned out. We're just a game. We're along for the ride. If we were holographic, then we might be able to create our reality in a way that we just don't understand.

And it's the difference between thinking it and knowing it, which kind of takes you into plant medicine world, which is a world that I've kind of dabbled into. Um, have you gotten into that too with your spiritual curiosities? Tell me about that. First time was in Amsterdam. I was, I think I might've been in high school. Wow. I was 18. Yeah. I was 18 years old. Did, uh, an eighth of mushrooms. eighth of mushrooms okay walked how many grams is that so it's 3.5 grams yeah that's great yeah so i walked great dose i walked for eight hours straight smiling the whole time just around amsterdam yeah it was the best trip of my life now with my current anxieties i don't know if i could do a full trip like that again though really yeah with your

anxieties huh yeah i feel like because when you're younger, you don't have as much pressure. This was for me at least because I grew up, you know, middle class, didn't have much worries financially or anything. Yeah. But now I feel like there's more stress. Well, I mean, those journeys only give you what you need, not what you want. So that's kind of something you have to be ready for. And always that your life will change. And you don't know how that's going to be.

And it might be amazing, but it's still going to change. And sometimes change isn't very fun or easy. In fact, usually change isn't. And so I was going back to what I had just mentioned about thinking versus knowing and it being a reality and being something you fully embody. I think that's what happens in those spaces is that you go so deep that you viscerally live it. You are it. It's not just like something you're thinking or reading. You are in the experience, so it becomes a knowing for you. And so when you come out of those experiences, your outside reality doesn't match the inside anymore

and takes time for it to catch up. Yeah, I'm a huge fan of microdosing, so I still do that a couple of times a week. But what's been your experience with psychedelics? Are you doing the full doses or the micro doses? I don't micro. I mean, I'm recreation a little bit, but journeys too.

Like, you know, I did a five gram mushroom journey that was pretty big. That is intense. Yeah, and then ayahuasca. So I've only done a few, but man, they have really like, pretty big. Yeah. And then ayahuasca. Um, so I've only done a few, but man, they have really like, they're so prophetic. Like they're just so life-changing. Um, and they can, you can integrate them for years. Yeah. It can take serious time, but I, I mean, I'm a, I never would tell someone they have to do it. I could only tell them my experience

and, um, then tell them that they just have to be ready for their life to change. Number one, it's got to call you. And number two, you have to be ready for your life to change because those things, you need to do it yourself because you don't want to do it and not want to do it and then have the change come and be resentful for whoever told you to do it. So it has to be your decision and then ready for the change, which it's ideally in a good direction. It just isn't easy when the change is happening. That's all.

Right. So you were at a pivotal moment in your life. You felt like you needed some guidance and that's when you did it. And even just like the curiosity of it was calling something in. Sometimes we don't always know where we're going. Um, but we get these calls to do things. And, um, you know, I, I, I do believe that the higher self is kind of leading us along. So, um, so maybe it's just kind of your higher self going, all right, so it's time you need this experience. Um, but yeah, I mean, I feel like it helps me function in my everyday

total normal waking life where I'm working and doing all the normal things that I do, um, at better and happier. Um, and knowing that there's just so much more. I love that. So speaking of not knowing when, where you're going, when you retired from racing, did you have a period where you felt kind of lost in life? Cause that was your whole life, right? Yeah, totally. Not really. I was lucky enough that when I was still racing, I had a lot of projects going on. So, um, I had like a clothing business at that point. I had a wine company. I was already doing speaking engagements. So I had lots of stuff already going on. And I wanted to work less.

And I wanted to take more vacations and travel more. I love traveling and love going to new places. So I already knew that I wanted to do less. And somewhere within that less was adding some travel. So I've kind of reached a point where I feel like I'm actually at a pretty full schedule, to be honest. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Back with like, you know, nine or 10 races a year, which ultimately adds up to nine or 10 weeks a year. Um, doing the podcast, um, doing wine. I had a, I had a dinner for Somnium, my, my Napa Valley wine in Scottsdale where I live a couple

nights ago. You know, 50 people. We had the whole restaurant and I tell stories about the wine and I get a little tipsy with everyone and we have a really good time. And then they order wine that they like from the night. So, you know, all those things keep me really busy. And I also, you know, I've become a golfer and a skier. And so like all these things that I never had time to do when I was working, I have time to do now. So yeah. Because you were all in on racing. And basically with that mindset, did you take that over to the business world? Or it sounds like you're living a bit more casual. Yeah, I'm, I've realized, I think sometimes it's important. Well, it's always important to know what you want to do, but maybe, um, along those lines, also very important to

know what you're not good at. So I'm just, uh, I'm very visionary. I have a lot of ideas. I pretty much think of a company for everything. I'm like, Oh, here's the solution. We'll just start a company for that. Um, but then I'm not very good at the details and execution. So, um, so part of my journey into the business world has been, um, understanding that I'm not good at that and, and getting the right people around me and, um, creating structure and that, that, that makes them encouraged to work and, and do a good job, uh, finding a good balance of people. Um, and, uh, and, and just, you know, knowing that I'm not so good at those details. Right. Well, I feel like that's actually common for professional athletes. Cause you see these

statistics of like 80% of them going broke within a few years of retiring. Oh yeah. That's bad. Yeah. It's really high. I don't know if it's like that with racing, but I know with like NFL and NBA, it's super high. Yeah. It's having good guidance is super important. Um, instead of just every, every idea you have. What about a house? And somebody's just a yes person and they're like, sure. What about a plane? Sure.

And then all of a sudden there's nothing at the end. That's a really terrible plan. That's actually kind of hard to do. I feel bad for the people that do run out of money. It's happened to me. I thought it never would, but it's crazy. Did people steal i mean did people steal from you too uh yeah i got robbed i mean i got scammed a bunch of stuff

but it was all just at once and it just but it's uh looking back i think it motivated me even more you know really losing everything yeah how long ago was that uh two three years oh that's it yeah pretty recent is that why you've been pushing so hard with the show and working your butt off? Yeah, lost over 10 million. What? Yeah, crazy, right? I have to get divorced to do that kind of thing, you know? Oh, man.

But it's a learning lesson. Is there any specific races, moments that you still think about to this day? Or have you come to peace with everything that's happened? Oh, yeah, I'm all good. I mean, I think I'll always think back to my first indy 500 that i was leading at the end and um and was told to sort of turn the fuel mixture down lean it out which restricts the amount of fuel that comes in um until the point where i was getting caught by second place and then he passed me and i ended up finishing fourth in the race which which is still great, but, um, but definitely had enough speed to win and then really probably

had enough fuel too. So, but here's the thing I tell the story to say, like, look, winning the Indy 500 would have been really cool. And especially the first time I did, it would have been like, like unreal for any driver, unreal for anyone to win their first try. It's so very hard and it takes a lot of luck and being at the right place at the right time but um but i also wouldn't change it because it's led me to here and i'm all about the whole like sliding doors effect in life that if i would have won my i would be i would not be sitting here with you today right i wouldn't live where i live i wouldn't have my dogs i wouldn't have had the experiences there's so many nothing it would have been nothing and I'm so grateful for my life and I love my life

and um I love all the challenges I've had because they've made me grow and I love all the successes I've had because they are evidence of my effort um but um but I wouldn't change it so but that's the only thing I think about and I'm like man yeah I was listening to you on Jocko on the way here talking about that oh yeah that was a good. And that was a super deep dive into my whole, whole career. If anyone wants to hear every detail of my career, Jocko. Yeah. You went in, let loose and you were in racing like before the big money was even there, right? Um, well I was in NASCAR. I missed it. Like I kind of came in right after that. And then, yeah, I would say I kind of came after it.

I would say there was so much money in racing in general. I was kind of on a little bit of an upswing in IndyCar-ish for a while. So IndyCar had a split where the series split into two different groups way back in the day in the 90s. And then actually, I won the Japan 300 in the IndyCar series in April of 2008. And then I flew directly to Long Beach, California for the very, very last champ car race. And then we merged back again. And so actually, I was there for the merger back again in 2008 when the series combined again. And that helped. Wow.

Yeah. It always interests me when you dedicate your whole life to something and, you know, it doesn't start off with the money at first. You would just genuinely like to race, right? Oh, yeah. You started as a teenager. Yeah. I've always had a really good peace of mind and belief that when things are done right and when you do a good job, that the money will show up, the interest will show up, the like everything will happen. Like

as a little mini story, I don't know why I think of this story, but I think back to my, it was 2005 and I'd almost won an Indy at the one, the Indy 500. And, um, the, uh, the SBs were calling, you know, the SBs, the sports show for awards for athletes, they wanted me to go. And I couldn't quite make it happen easily. Like I was like, I had to be in Nashville for an IndyCar race. And, and I just was like, you know what, if I keep doing well, they'll always want me. They'll ask me to come again next year. Now, they did send the Disney jet for me. So I did go. Nice. And then I ultimately ended up hosting it in 2018 when I retired.

Wow. So that was pretty cool. And I went every single year since, from 2005 all the way to the point where I hosted in 2018. Incredible. And, yeah, I told the producer within those first couple years of going, I think it was when Lance Armstrong hosted. And I was like, an athlete's doing it?

I was like, I want to do it. And so fast forward to 2018, and I was asked to do it. And I said to, Maura Mant was her name, and she passed away a few years ago, unfortunately. But I said to her i was like

maura i told somebody that i wanted to host the sbs and she goes you told me and i was like oh shoot wow so anyway um that was pretty fun everything comes full circle right yeah the more i think about it like this is why i'd never try to leave on a bad note with anyone because you really never know if they're going to come back in your life and when. That's so true. It's so true. Leaving a good impression and doing the right thing. And yeah, I'd say my parents raised me to really try and do a lot of that to be a good person and don't burn bridges. And yeah, it's easier said than done sometimes. But yeah, especially with like ex-boyfriends. Yeah, it's actually

what i was thinking was exes but then i thought if i mentioned that everyone's gonna think bam total yeah no those are the toughest i think because you're the most vulnerable it's true so they know everything and there's just some resentment but even with exes i just i forgive them you know well it taps into all of our insecurities and it's the most sort of psychologically deep experience that we have. I've never been ruined by anything more than relationships in my life. Wow. Yeah.

That's a statement. Yeah. I mean, I retired and was like, all right, here we go. And then there's a breakup and I am a mess, you know? Damn. It's really interesting. We all have our thing. Do you not think that?

Like some people struggle in relationships. Some people not think that? Some people struggle in relationships. Some people struggle with work. Some people struggle with family. Some people struggle. I feel like everybody has their thing. And that's just kind of always been my thing. Yeah, there could be some trauma maybe as a young kid you witness. Who knows what it stems to.

Yeah, I mean I've gone pretty deep into psychology to try and figure it out and psychoanalyze myself for sure. So, um, and I've kind of definitely excavated some truths in there. So, um, but yeah, it is, it's in the trauma. Yeah. It's in the, it's in the patterning. It's in the things that happen when you're a kid that give you a narrative. And not only that, you're also a high profile person. So your, your relationships are public sometimes, which is tough. And also you're a successful woman financially. And I've read studies on those actually, where those types of women struggle to find men. Yes. So the cards aren't in your favor. I've seen that intelligence and success reduces your chances of finding a good mate much. Really? Yeah. It's like a hypergamy thing. Um, you know,

Jordan Peterson, I'll talk about this a lot and anybody that dives into psychology and to social constructs, like it's, um, yeah. Hypergamy is like women tend to date, um, lateral and up and men to date lateral and down.

And so, um, and that being like a, like intelligence and, and, and success. And so having both of those, I'm not saying I'm super smart. I'm OK.

Like I have a GED, like I'm throwing it out there. I'm not. I'm if you ask me to tell you when World War One was, I can't answer that question. But but, you know, I've had a lot of life experiences. And so but having intelligence and then and then having success are both of the two things that really reduce. I knew the success one. I didn't know the intelligence and with intelligence, there's multiple forms, like you're saying, right? There's the book smart, there's the street smart, then there's the emotional intelligence. Do you have the emotional mainly? No, no, I'm just kidding. Let's give you a blank answer with that.

Um, uh, I would say I'm more like intellectual smart and I'm very, I looked into when it comes into emotional intelligence and empathy being a really big part of that to being able to communicate and like relate to someone having an experience, which is the really important part with the emotional intelligence is being able to meet them where they're at. I looked into the different aspects of it because I don't take on people's feelings. If you're sad, I don't feel sad. And that's probably the most common way for empathy or empaths is to feel your feelings. And so I looked into the kinds of empathy, and I have the one where I have to understand you.

So it ends up feeling a little like I'm questioning you or maybe wanting to even fix you, but I just want to understand. And so I'm like that million, million question. Somebody's like, well, what are you sad about? Why are you sad? What were you thinking about? What makes you sad about why are you sad what were you thinking about what makes you sad like i'll just keep asking because i want to understand and that's how i that's how i empathize with people i'm like that too i've never seen that in a woman actually oh i feel like it's mainly a guy thing oh so you get it yeah i get it my fiance hates it because

she's an empath so she wants physical touch she wants me to feel her feelings yeah and i try to do that but i'm more logic based. You know what I mean? Sounds like you're very similar. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I like physical touch to the five love languages.

That's number one for me. But on a like on a side note of like a different ish note. Yeah. To understand and like be able to relate and like be with someone's emotions. I want to understand them. So I just want the full scope of it much better. And look, it's not beyond me to want to help. So I have to just listen. Women just want to be heard. That's a very common thing. But I think that's to men too. I think everybody at times just wants to vent, right? You want to just, and you want someone to just go, great. I'm sorry.

Are you okay? And like, give me a hug and we're just sit there. And, uh, and is that, does that feel like it's what your fiance wants is just listen. Yes. All the time. Yeah. I've gotten better, you know? Yeah. Once we understood our love languages, we took that test. We took a couple of personality tests. I think it really helped us because we thought we loved each other in the same way if that makes sense but we appreciate in different styles were you showing it you were showing it because usually what happens is you show love the way you want to get it exactly yeah so hers was touch and I think words of affirmation but mine were acts of service oh like those two were low on mine oh shoot yeah shoot. It's okay to be different. You just have to know. Exactly. Yeah. Cause you want to make her happy and she wants to make you happy. You

just need to know how to do it. Yeah. Yeah. So anyone I work with or want to be friends with, I have them take some tests, like personality tests. There's one called dark triad. Have you taken that one? God, I hope I'm not in the dark triad. So that one measures your three worst traits and how high you score. Oh, I thought it was like the dark triad. Jeez. So that one measures your three worst traits and how high you score. Oh, I thought it was like the dark triad of like narcissism, narcissism, like Machiavellian, Machiavellians, and then like. Psychopath. Psychopath.

So it measures those three. Oh, jeez. Yeah. So some people score high on those and you got to keep an eye out. Okay. I really, I love to know about myself. So I'm like, oh, oh shoot i wonder how i'd score i should take the test i think you should let me know off camera what you got i won't reveal it

i'll i would tell anyone i would i think i think i'm just like stupid honest it's so it's like it's yeah it's good i think to be honest i mean some people take honesty as an insult but if if you have the right intention with the honesty i think it's good you know what i mean and it's good. I think to be honest, I mean, some people take honesty as an insult, but if, if you have the right intention with the honesty, I think it's good. You know what I mean? And it's always for that. And I think that's probably cause I love honesty for me. I tend to be really honest with other people. In fact, I have some very, very spiritual friends, um, that, um, like one in particular, she's like, when I need to know the truth, I come to you. And, um, because I'm also, you know, trust my intuition. So between the intuition and being able to know the truth, I come to you. And because I'm also, you know, trust my intuition. So between the intuition and being able to deliver the truth, there's very little time gap and I just do it.

And when I do it and she's like, yep, that's what I needed to hear. Like, you're right. I've been thinking that. And so, but it's always in light of their highest timeline would be the spiritual way to say it. It's always to help them be happier, just to cut through it. And at times it's just because it seems so obvious to me. And then it tends to be a little too blunt. Something powerful about your intuition.

They call it your gut, right? Trust your gut. There must be something spiritual behind that because it's usually always right. Yeah. Well, I think our body is giving us information right so you know i've been in plenty of situations um where you know you'll get like you'll get a feeling right your stomach will tighten up you won't feel well it'll be you'll get discomfort right in the body and it's giving you information um and so yeah no i think there's something there because i feel like everyone has an energy field i've been looking more into this and sometimes your body can feel it before your

brain can recognize it and then just give you signals. Yes. You meet them before you meet them. Yeah. Cause there's certain people that walk in the room, you feel it. And there are different sizes of fields too. So the fields are not always the same. Sometimes they're very close to the body and sometimes they're very big. Interesting. Yeah. That is cool. Now being one of the few female drivers in a huge male dominated space, did you have a support group of people, girls to talk to like when you were going through rough times? No. So it was just you? Yeah. I mean, I have my family and people along the way, like those, those kinds of people that are, you know, very near and dear and totally in my life, um, relationships along the way. Um,

but no, not really. Um, and you know, one of the very common questions you get, especially as an athlete was if you had a role model or an idol growing up. And I never did. I always just, I just had people, I just tried to learn from everyone, but I never wanted to be like anyone. And I never said what, you know, I, I, I would ask for advice advice but I would ask anybody for advice so there was not like a mentor or a specific person that I always went to or had phases of going to this person then evolved into someone else it it's never really been like that for me that is interesting and with your competitors was it more of a support type of energy or were they seeing you in a different light uh what do you mean like all

the male drivers yeah like you were the only female one right so did they support that did they cheer you on or were they more like adversarial uh i'm not sure they cheered me on but i mean i think there were some that that were much better about it and some that were you know um didn't let it affect them. And then I think there's some that it did. I always make sure I say that everyone has to prove themselves. So guys out there against guys, if they're a rookie, they're going to have to prove themselves.

I will too. But I think the difference is, is that there will be some that I will never convince. And, and that's kind of the difference. Wow. You know, there were just some that were just always out there and you just could never get around it. Yeah. But that's okay.

I got a lot of advantages by being a girl. So the disadvantages are just also part of it. I believe in the balance in life and sort of the duality of our reality is here and here. Like even my highs and lows were bigger when I was racing than now because of the extreme, you know, danger and pressure and success and magnifying glass. Like, you know, there are higher highs and lower lows. Now they're a little bit less higher high and lower low. You know, that's just kind of like everything that we do ends up having sort of a polarizing, like an opposite, equal and opposite energy carry. I love that mindset because some people only want good things to happen to them.

They only want upward trends. And I don't think that is fulfilling. Yeah. Yeah. Well, without pain, there is no growth. Growing pains is just if you want to grow, you're going to go into pain. And you see that people that are super stagnant and don't ever change or evolve. They are the people that are rooted and stuck in their ways. They're not going to think different.

They don't question things. I end up actually, I really think that a lot of times people, you know, defend their position so much on like fundamentals, like politics and religion and those kinds of big buckets is because they're such a foundation of who you are that it's implied that there is a, it's like a pyramid, like, and the thing crumbles when you take those away. Meaning, what else are they going to have to question? And that what else is everything? Because it's fundamental to your belief system, to your values, to what you do, to why you do it. And that is scary.

Back to change. That is scary for everything to change. So it's easier to not change. But you're never going to have, you're not going to evolve to what you, I believe, could be if you just said yes to the truth. Whatever that is. There's something uncomfortable with being comfortable for me. You know what I mean? I always want to be evolving, changing, becoming better. That's what life is. There's something uncomfortable with being comfortable for me. You know what I mean? I always want to be evolving, changing, becoming better. That's what life is. Yeah. Well, that's why you're here now. That's why, that's why you're doing what you do. Um, because you, I mean, I, I share a similar feeling where I didn't realize that what really motivated me in racing was this feeling of discomfort. I actually thought that was my weakness.

I actually thought that it was like, I'm not brave enough out there. I wish I was a better risk taker. I wish I was more reckless at times and just went, I wish I was just a little more aggressive. But I realized that when I was done that it was actually being on that edge all the time that really motivated me.

But I was also equally very scared of it. Wow. But it was totally what motivated me. So now that I'm done racing, I just plug that into other things. And it tends to be a little bit more mental what I'm doing now. So it's like interviewing fascinating people, brilliant people, where I feel like I have to become a physicist to interview them. And I really put pressure on myself to meet them where they're at and do a good job. So that's a small

example, but those are the kind I do that or, you know, or, or I learned to do a new sport or, you know, something like that where I don't know what the hell I'm doing, but I'm going to stretch myself. So it sounds like you have some of that same similar feeling of just like discomfort is actually what you seek. Yeah. And when you say you had fear, was that fear of the actual racing part or like how people would react? Yeah, that's a good that's a good question to sort of distill it down to the specific. I didn't really fear dying. It wasn't really like a fear of life or my body, but it was a fear of failing. It was a fear of not being able to do it. So when I was younger, they asked me what I was

the most scared of and I was like failing. Wow. Yeah. So it's kind of the pressure I put on myself, whether it's an interview or learning how to be a golfer or whatever it is. It's like, what does it say about me if I can't do this? You know? And I don't ever want to think I can't do something because in my mind, I also, on the flip-flop, I think I can do anything. It's even in my mind. I think that if I believed full body, like if I really believed I could dunk a basketball,

like you probably can. I can. I tell you again. Six-five. Yeah. If I like believed it enough i would be able to defy physics in the way that we think we understand it five one there's people that could dunk at your height stop i swear yes they must have to actually fly then almost spud webb was i think

410 and he won the dunk contest stop it yeah it's possible, but I believe I can do anything, but it's, but it's actually on the other side of it that I fear so much that what will it say about me if I can't do this? What will it say about me if I look like an idiot when I'm talking to this person? Or what will it say about me if I, you know, go in to broadcasting and, and, and, and don't do a good job and I don't sound intelligent? Or what will it say about me if I try a new sport and I can't figure it out? What will that say about me? And I, cause I believe that I can do anything. And what it would say is like, that's not true. One of the things, a lot of athletes get heat for is the media and the people on social media that judge their bad performances, whether it's a bad game, a bad race. And, you know, it really,

I put myself in their shoes and it must be so hard mentally to see those things online about you every day sometimes. Oh yeah. There's a lot of fun people out there. Um, you get used to it pretty quick. I think that if I'm going through like my life and what gave me the skills to, um, are you interested in coming on the digital social hour podcast as a guest? We'll click the application link below in the description of this video. We are always looking for cool stories, cool entrepreneurs to talk to you about business and life.

Click the application link below. And here's the episode, guys. Or the mindset to be able to handle it. My dad was pretty tough on me when I was a kid. So I love him dearly. And we have an incredible relationship. And I wouldn't change a thing. But it is part of what made me who I am. And so, you know, when I'd come off the track and he'd be like, you know, if I didn't tune the carburetor right, he'd ask me if my effing fingers were broken.

Like, you know, he was really tough. Was he a racer? Yeah. Okay. So, you know, this was happening at 10. And so, you know, those are pretty aggressive conversations every weekend when you're just a 10 year old or 11 or 12 or fourth grade, man. Yeah. So I didn't even know that for it in fourth grade. Yeah. So, um, so it really conditioned me to be able to be tough and resilient. And I needed that, dude, did I need that because then fast forward to the age of social

media and being an IndyCar and then NASCAR people have plenty to say I mean Richard Petty has said I'm you know or Kyle Petty has said terrible things Bernie Ecclestone used to run Formula One I mean there are people along the way and then of course all the fans that you would have never you don't know who the hell they are. You've never met them before. They'd say, I wish you died in that crash. Damn. Or whatever, that you suck.

You shouldn't be taking a ride from someone that knows what they're doing. You're just a show. So to be able to deal with all that and laugh about it is because I think I was built resilient from a young age. Nice. Yeah, the fan ones. Yeah, there's the fan ones or whatever. I think it's when people you care about make those comments. Those are the ones that can hurt. You know what I mean? Well, I look at this from a kid's perspective in school, and I've totally thought that same thing where when people make comments to me, I don't know them. So I know that maybe they would think different if they actually met me.

But when we're talking about kids and social media, they might have something said about them by someone that goes to their school that does actually know them. And that's got to cut a lot deeper. I can think to myself, you're a stranger. You have no idea. I don't know what you're doing. Are you in your parents' basement, the old, you know, making comments from there? But they don't. And so what a tough age, what a tough dynamic for so many people that deal with social media and the criticism and everything. I don't envy parents and having to deal with how to that and the the side effects and the psychological effects

of of all the criticism that yeah it's different yeah because back in our day you just got bullied physically and that was that was at least it was face to face you know what i mean and you could deal with it but now it's like people make fake accounts i just saw jake paul on uh whose podcast was it uh george jankos podcast he was saying in high school, they made a page called, um, Jake small and they were saying how he has a small and like it really got to him. It's just like a different form of bullying, you know? Man. It's yeah. Yeah. Life is building us to be resilient right now. Right. Absolutely. Yeah. Um, I saw you remove your breast implants recently. Oh yeah. That was a year and a half, almost two years ago now.

Wow. Was that a health reason? Man, dude, I had such a health journey. It was a disaster. I mean, it was, yeah, I got them when I was 32. And I ended up having them for seven and a half years. And I would say that I didn't really notice much the first three years. And then one of them, like like had capsule contracture and then I

thought was it from crashing a race car which just seems like a legitimate reason why there could be something that happens and then found out that wasn't true and then eventually the other one did the same thing and that was after racing and so I was like well obviously it's not from crashing and then um fast forward to 2020 and just life events and i think with the body the body is so good at dealing with with with with issues like it does a really good job you can throw a lot at it but eventually it's too much and so between the implants between stress between you you know, uh, like the, the wear and tear I was putting on it in the gym. Um, probably a diet that wasn't balanced enough. Like when you keep throwing things at it, it just finally shuts down. And that's what it did. Um, at the end of 2020 and like my, I like,

I like didn't even look the same for a while. I look back at pictures even a year ago and I'm like, Oh my God, my face didn't even look the same. This is still like a year after they came out. But when I got them out immediately, um, and I tried so many things for years, um, because for me it was like, you know, I was getting tired, I was gaining weight, I couldn't lose any, I was not recovering from workouts. It was just, I was just a mess. And, um, and, uh, yeah, so I got them out and immediately, like the first thing I noticed that night waking up on the couch was like, cause I had it, they fit me in very quickly, thank God. And so the appointment was at two o'clock in the afternoon, I think, which was tough for old Danica because she had to be hungry all

day. But finally, anyway, get get home and then I like touched my face and I had natural oil on my face for the first time that I could remember. And I was like, so my scalp was dry too for years and just various different things like that that are just very, you know, cosmetic in a way. And so my skin, I was like, wow. And inflammation was dropping like every day, like dramatically. And so that was kind of the start of what kind of unlocked the,

it was like the big key to unlock the door to getting back to where I was again. Cause my, even I had done various, like tons of different tests. One of them is called a Dutch test and it's where you pee on a piece of paper throughout the day, different times. And it marks, like it checks for your hormone levels and all kinds of cortisol. And so the first one I did, my cortisol was flip-flop. Like it was spiking in the middle of the night and then coming down from there. It never went up when I woke up. So it was like flip-flop, like I would call it adrenal fatigue.

Just my body was just in full shutdown mode amongst gut issues and all kinds of stuff. Wow, and you were young too. I mean, this was, you know, a few years ago. So, I mean, in my late 30s. So, yeah, but I'm finally like finally back on track. I still take a handful of pills a day, you know. Are they holistic at least? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, DHEA and vitamin D. And some of them are elective, like probiotics and digestive enzymes and beta alanine and things like that. Nice. So I don't have to take a few of them. I do have to take thyroid medicine now. Okay. So that sucks. You had a thyroid problem?

Yeah, my thyroid function was like in the basement. Damn. All my hormones were low, super low. And is that from poor diet, mainly the thyroid stuff? I think it's just from, I think it's, I think it could be from some of that. I've heard that, you know, carbohydrates, lack of carbohydrates can really reduce thyroid function. So, and that was, I was paleo for like seven years because I got into CrossFit and that's what you did in CrossFit.

And so, you know, I was hammering my body for an hour or two at the gym, sometimes doing two a days. And then I was eating paleo, which doesn't include grains or much complex carbohydrates. So yeah, I was coming at it from all angles. I used to have the opinion that like there were just buckets of energy. There was like the workout bucket there was the emotional bucket there was the mental bucket there were all these different buckets and i thought well i can pull from each one every day and then i realized it's all the same damn bucket and now i'm like okay so if i have you know if i do a workout and then cold plunge that's it for the day right like that's like two buckets if I have a lot of stress because I'm, you know, maybe I have a, you know, maybe I'm doing therapy or maybe I'm going through something really emotional and something like I try and keep it to like one or two hard things a day.

And that's it. Otherwise, you just tax your body too much. And so I used to do all of them every day. Burnouts a thing, right? We've all gone through it and it's rough. Sometimes you'll have a panic attack and just end up on the floor and you don't even know why. And it's burnout. Yeah. It's a real thing. Yeah. I, I actually have thought about this, like following along to aging and wondering, like people think that aging is just this normal thing. And I just think I'm going to live to 120 or at least that's what I'm going to do. I love that.

I think I'm going to live to 120. So I wonder how much aging is just ignoring all the important things you need to be doing along the way. And then we think our body slips and it's just this normal thing called aging. And it's really just because we don't really understand how to take care of the body properly. Absolutely. I just took, you know, Tally Health. health. It's a biological, it measures your biological age. So you do like a mouth swab. Okay. Yeah. So I'm all about that stuff. How'd it go? Do you have it back yet? Yeah. So I'm five years younger than I actually am. Fantastic. I'm 21. That's what

I told my girl. So I'm younger than her now. Oh my God. That's so incredible already to be ahead of the curve. Well, Joe Dispenza, I don't know if you're familiar with him. Yeah, I know Joe. Yeah. So his biological age is 20 years behind his real age. That's how healthy he is. Oh, Joe, all that meditating. Have you gone to one of his week longs or anything? No, it's on my bucket list. I've had so many guests that have gone to those and speaking so highly of them. Um, my fun story from the, I interviewed Joe and then I think I interviewed him in 19. Yeah. That's when I started my podcast.

And, uh, this is when I was doing them all in person, which is great. So I, I was in LA and it was also very easy to get people in LA and then fast forward to 2020. And one of my girlfriends asked me if I wanted to come do a little one day event with Joe. It was like 20 of us there. Um, and so he taught us this cool manifestation technique. And,

um, I had such a great experience that I have to share it. Uh, and I guess it's power to his sort of methods and why he's 20 years younger, but I love manifestation. He was like, think of what it is that you want to manifest, and then write the letter for it, represent it on the piece of paper, and then draw your little bubble around it.

And on the left side, write down three to five reasons why you want that. And on the right side, you write down three to five elevated emotions, having achieved or accomplished or got whatever it is that you want. And so we go through our day, and at the end of the day, we are finishing with the meditation because there's a lot of meditating with Joe and he leads them all. It's fantastic. It's amazing. Um, but anyway, so he goes into the manifestation technique and, um, and so I go into it.

Anyway, fast forward, it's the end of the day, five o'clock, we go to dinner afterwards. And so I'm sitting down and this girl next to me taps me on the shoulder and she's like hey i i um i heard you're interested in egypt and i was like what do you know what i wrote down i wrote an e for egypt wow and i was like what and she goes oh i don't know what you wrote down she goes but this other girl said you were talking about it and there's a trip in february if you want to go. And it was the end of October. It was almost November. What? And I was like, what?

And so this is on, you know, this is still like this is November 2020, basically. Yeah. And so it was like at a weird time where we didn't even know if travel was going to happen. Of course, it did. And it was basically empty in Egypt when we went there for two weeks. And it was this beautiful like pilgrimage through the temples and pyramids. But I was sitting at the table and I was like, Joe, hey, I was like, that took two hours. So it was so crazy. I don't believe in coincidences. After I had Robert Edward Grant on my show. I love Robert. Yeah. I mean, he just went to Egypt with Robert. Oh, I gotta hear

about that. So being from Syrian lineage, that's my dream destination. Of course. So please tell me about that trip. Of course. Well, Robert is just like beyond brilliant when it comes to math and geometry and numbers. And so I interviewed him as well. And he interviewed me and we hit it off. And, you know, then he had had some like past sort of memories of seeing me in Egypt. And, you know, he's a very spiritual guy. And so anyway, um, so we've been friends now for a couple of years. And so he was talking about doing kind of, uh, you know, kind of like a VIP trip to, to Egypt. And so, uh, so we went and we, we went to a bunch of pyramids. We didn't do any temples and it was a very spiritual experience. It was very, it was like a work trip i felt like we

were all like reunited from ancient times where this is just what we did and we were there to like anchor new i mean i always say these things and i can think them and i can do them but like to say it out loud is like i'm sure i sound weird right now but it was to activate frequencies, to anchor new frequencies, to activate different chakras for the planet. I love that. That's so cool. I remember filming his episode, mind blown. I text him a few days later. I just found out about my Syrian lineage and my past lives.

I was so excited to tell him. And he was like, dude, I already knew that. I was like, bro, this guy is on another level. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, what was one fun thing that happened? Um, so in the pyramid, um, one thing that he did, he's like a modern day, he's like a real Indiana Jones, not a modern day, a real one. Cause Indiana Jones is fake. He's like a real one. And, um, so they make discoveries all over the place and find alpha omegas like in the king's chamber on the sarcophagus. And which definitely wasn't sarcophagus. Nobody was there.

I don't think anyway. And so he's finding all these things on the walls. And so he's showing us and he's teaching us and he's like, do you see it now? And he'll sort of like laser it and show you. And you're like, I mean, i see it when you do that and so afterwards at dinner i'm like so are you saying that a it's there actually b are you trying to teach us how to use our minds differently or c are you trying to get us to all believe that it's there so that we actually change matter as a collective consciousness?

And he was like, hmm. And I don't know if it was a cop-out answer, but he said, all of them. And I was like. Because everything's just perception, right? And I totally believe in like this, like, you know, I don't think we understand is the point and so on a metaphysical level if we all agree that something's there can we actually change matter i don't know i mean i've seen matthias summon rain so that something like that wouldn't shock me you know what i mean you interviewed robert gilbert yet no he lives here in vegas too you have to i wanted to. I've interviewed him a couple times now.

He teaches the Rosicrucian Order. In the Rosicrucian Order, I've been kind of obsessed with magic lately. I want to learn magic, real magic like that, like changing the weather. Because I believe everything's possible. Everybody's going to listen to this and they're going to be like, Danica is absolutely... We're nerding out right now. Absolutely. One flew over the cuck everything's possible. Everybody's going to listen to this. They're like, Danica is absolutely. We're nerding out right now. Absolutely. One flew over the cuckoo's nest.

But he knows all about that stuff. And it was actually my second episode that I did with him would be interesting to learn about or listen to if you were to talk to him. Because it wasn't about all the magic that you'd end up learning. That's all kind of part of it. It was more about why are you doing it and your own personal journey. And it was actually a really, really, really incredible foundational episode as to how to step into that space more. I've had legitimate sources confirm that you can summon weather and like even governments know about it.

Well, I mean, my favorite book is the alchemist and that's what he does. That's a great book. It's a great book. I love that. Yeah. Wow. We just nerded out right there. I love that. I love that stuff. I mean, I'm so into it. I just like want to understand. And maybe I, so one thing about me is that I just love to be in the mystery. So I'm not saying all these things and like, I'm totally sold and no, I'm, I'm very open-minded. I can change my mind. And, um, with information, I would love for you to change my mind on anything, anybody too, because it means I learned something new. Um, but, uh, but I also just kind of love to be in the mystery of like, what's really going on and,

and like, what if it's this? And so it's like, it's like spending time in, in fantasy land, you know, for sure. Might not be true, but it's kind of fun to be there. Yeah. It might not be. I mean, we don't have any physical proof, but the fact that I've been tapping into this the past year, I've just been noticing a lot of things, you know what I mean? Like a lot of things, just the fact that like, we might be in a simulation, right? Like I'm just picking up on certain things. And like, I feel like everything's almost in a simulation right like i'm just picking up on certain things and like i feel like everything's almost in a controlled environment if you really look into things actually what just came to mind is the uh the um mandela effect have you looked into that i love that i've seen every youtube video like that would be a matrix kind of thing like a glitch in the matrix like oops when we like did that down up like that that upgrade

to the app called humans we made a couple mistakes yeah yeah i haven't seen a good explanation on why those occur and it happens in almost everything i've also seen that maybe it's people that maybe it's a test as to our ability to just accept something new without question. Interesting. What's your take on aliens? Because you've done ayahuasca. You might have met some. Actually, I wish I could. That's a very, a lot of people do.

But I haven't. And I would like to. But I have more human experiences for sure. But I 100% believe they're real. I think they're real. Yeah. I mean, the question i have is like i mean the miami thing was pretty fun i think that was programmed you think so i don't

think that was real i think it's holographic i think so because even alex jones was saying years ago that they're going to start doing holographic aliens and then it just happened randomly i know that guy's crazy but i love alex i'd love to interview him to interview him. A lot of this... So I'm having his doctor on. I'll introduce you guys. Yeah. So he knows all the stuff. But a lot of the stuff he says happens. It's pretty wild.

If you look at his track record. You know, it is. Conspiracy theorists. We need a new word. Yeah, it's a bad word. Ahead of the game. Ahead of the curve. I think...

Truth tellers. Didn't the CIA come up with that term? Propaganda. Operation Mockingbird. Defer people. Yeah, exactly. CIA CIA come up with that term? Propaganda, Operation Mockingbird. Defer people, yeah. Yeah, exactly. CIA, CIA. Crazy, huh?

Can't trust our own CIA. It's crazy. That's a shame. I mean, I think we're just being called to trust our intuition, to learn how to read it through our body, and to question things. And so, cause we can't just watch TV or listen to something and feel like we're getting the truth. We don't really know we're going to have to become our own gauge. We're going to have to be our, our own lie detector.

And that's a shift I've made in the past few years being more questionable. Um, when I was growing up, it was almost like I was following a script. I would wake up at six, turn on the news, feel like absolute **** honestly from the news, go to school, be depressed, follow orders from the teachers. And it was just like a simulation almost. And I feel like I'm breaking free a little bit. Yeah. Doesn't it, it starts to feel like so many people are so crazy. It does. While you probably look more crazy to them. No, it's, I mean, I surround myself with the right people, but yeah, it's, it's wild to see what I used to do living in Jersey. I look back at years past and decades past and I think about the way that I used to operate and my mind just doesn't work the same at all anymore. I'm just not the same person. Yeah. You're evolved. Yeah. Thank God. If somebody

says you've changed, I'm like, thanks. I've been working on it like really hard. You don't want to be in the same town you grew up in, just still at the bars on the weekends, you know? You know, you don't want to be doing the same thing, you know, for those who are in the same town, that's okay if that's your passion. But like evolve and grow as a human being and learn about yourself and what's going on around you and your family and psychology and patterns and all that stuff. Like it will just help your life be happier. Absolutely. Yeah. I know we've mentioned a few of your

favorite guests, but is there any other specific episodes that really stand out to you that you've filmed? Um, you know, I always love Zach Bush. Have you talked to him? I had him on last month. Oh my gosh. I mean, it's just, he like, he was in Egypt with us too. Oh, nice. Recently, yeah. But he just has a way of like opening up this like emotional portal of like, whoa, that was amazing. And he goes there and he's an emotional guy and passionate.

And so I've always loved talking to him. I always find it to be very fascinating and I learned something new. Um, but yeah, I, I, I think that usually the episodes that are the favorite are, are cause I really try and prepare for each guest. So, and a lot of them that I have a lot more preparation for, I'm, I'm already fascinated with them. They're already unreal to me. They're so cool. But it's the ones that you kind of didn't see coming where you're like, holy crap, you know, I didn't know you were into that. Like the one that always sticks out to me is the one that like that shocked me the most was, I'm trying to think who I also had that. It was Zach. It was the first time I interviewed

Zach Bush, but I also interviewed John Paul DeGioia. Oh. We started Paul Mitchell and Patron. Yeah. You thought he'd be all about money. I just thought he'd be business. And like, I'm like, okay, cool. And this is when I had a booker that, you know, was pulling people in. And so, you know, I didn't always know exactly who was coming as much. Now it's kind of just me sending DMs and like my producer making a few phone calls

of people that I want. So it's like a little less random from a direction standpoint. But then we talked and it was like, he told me about Integratron out in Joshua Tree, told me about aliens and all this crazy stuff. And I was like, it was just one of those episodes like early on that I thought, holy crap, I had no idea it was gonna go like that.

So, but yeah, I mean, I love all the spiritual people, Joe and Robert. And, you know, Billy Carson's always fascinating. That was a crazy one. Yeah, yeah. Man, he knows a lot. I really hope he stays safe. I told him at the end of our episode, dude, you better have security with you 24-7. I'm going to get more into the political realm, though.

That's my new direction. Yeah, I saw you on Tucker. The episode hasn't come out yet that I've seen. I saw the photo. Right, exactly. And I went on Charlie Kirk's show. It all kind of got launched when I went in December to AmFest. It's this event that is put on by Turning Point, which is Charlie's company. Um, and, and I went with my sister and we just had a great time and they're great speakers

of total variety, everything from psychology to the border control to, you know, um, hardcore politics to Tucker. And, um, and we just had a great time. And I just said, you know, like, I love America. So AmFest makes sense. America Fest. And people thought I was like this super MAGA, like extremist right wing. Like it just was if I was a terrible person for doing this. And so it kind of lit a fire. Yeah. I saw a long Instagram post with a caption.

Because you used to hold back your political views, right? Totally. I didn't even have them, to be honest. I just was like, I'm not even going there. I've always been much more conservative. Like, I feel like I feel like I'm a lot like a lot of people. Like, I kind of want the country to be run conservatively, but I kind of live a little bit more liberally. Like, I think you should be able to do what you want a lot more in life than people telling you what you can and can't. But yet, you know, it's also the country is a business and business is bad. You know, how many trillion are we in debt now? Yet, you know, we write off, you know, you write off, you know, $30 at, you know, a coffee shop and it's accidentally under business and it should have been personal and they want to

come after you. You know what I mean? Like, like who's really making the checks and balances on what's going on here and why. And so, um, but anyway, I've, that's generally how I've been. So,

um, so I, I'm, I'm going to get into that more. I mean, I've like been in contact with like Vivek's people and, um, I saw you had RFK.

RFK was on. Tulsi's really cool. She seems like very interesting. So I've been in touch with her, Tucker, of course. And, um, so, uh, so yeah, cool she seems like very interesting so i've been in touch with her tucker of course and um so uh

so yeah so i've just kind of been dropped into this world and then as soon as i posted the stuff about tucker charlie was like i want to have you on and he's based in phoenix so i went and did it in studio and it just seems like it's just happening like a snowball like there's just so much easy interest and direct contact with all these people. So I'm like, all right, well, let's, let's go there. I don't have to be, you know, I, I'm not in sports anymore where I always felt like I had to be generally religious and politically just like non-existent. Like those aren't things I talk about. And so, you know, let's excavate, let's ask some questions.

That's cool. Cause yeah, with athletes, very few of them ever like come out publicly with their stances. Cause I think they're so afraid of 50 50 cause we're so divided. It's such a divisive topic. Yeah. And you're not scared of that? No, no. And I think again, the conditioning from like, you know, like being in the public eye and

social media and you know, dad being like, I'm just, I'm good for it. I'm totally fine. I was, I was built to deal with hard things. Um, so I feel like I'm just i'm good for it i'm totally fine i was i was built to deal with hard things um so i feel like i'm i'm ready for it the only insecurity i have is that i'm not super educated in politics but i was like all right that's just my approach let's just learn together right i might ask a dumb question i might ask a really dumb question that actually gets a really interesting answer because nobody asked the dumb question that's true that's true ignorance might be bliss in this situation for me yeah i'm like, oh, I wasn't supposed to ask that. I didn't know.

I mean, that's why Vivek crushed it because he would actually address certain topics that people wouldn't touch. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, I just, I'm like very curious about it and, and we'll see where that goes. But not to mention the engagement on the politics stuff is insane. I mean, it's just the year it's the year and i i've all i've also had sort of the more like spiritual questioning of like okay do we move forward and evolve by not participating in these kinds of conversations and ideas and adding to it as a collective consciousness? Like, do I just act like it's not there? And so perception becomes my reality. If it's not there for me, it's not there.

And do we all just need to keep doing that? Or do you actually have to fight? Is there a fight that needs to be had? And do you keep it going by talking about it? I don't know. But anyway, lit a fire. So I guess we'll figure it out. Do you have a candidate you're supporting this election? Not necessarily. I mean, I'm definitely not for Biden. We can agree on that. Other than that, I mean, I love to learn.

I like RFK a lot, actually. I do, too. I liked Vivek, but he dropped out. I know, yeah. Now it's RFK or Trump for me. Yeah, me too, right? I mean, that's kind of where I'm at. And I'm super interested to see what people end up picking for VPs. Yeah. Probably be interesting. That would be very

interesting actually. Um, that was so fun. Anything you want to close off with or promote? Thanks for coming on. Of course. No, thank you for having me. And, um, and I'm a big fan of your show and just keep doing what you're doing and having these fun people. When I would see your show and I see a cool clip, I literally like write down the name of someone that you've had. So I'm like, I got to reach out to them. Any guests that you want from my show, reach out. I'm going to make an intro for you. Hey man, I'm just all here for the truth tellers. You know, people that are willing to ask the questions, people that are open-minded and good open dialogue and really just giving a platform to people that are helping us all evolve to our best self so we can be happier because like there's just

so much more room for that in this world to all have a much more positive perception of so much more. Amazing. Thank you so much, Annika. Yeah, thank you. Thanks for watching, guys. As always, we will see you tomorrow.