Digital Social Hour - Revolutionary Sleep Hack: Change Your Life in 3 Steps | Justin Hai DSH #1272

Episode Date: March 27, 2025

Discover how to transform your sleep and change your life in just 3 steps! 😴✨ In this episode of the Digital Social Hour, Sean Kelly sits down with Justin, CEO of Rebalance Health, to unpack the secrets behind optimizing sleep, managing cortisol, and boosting your overall health. 🌟 From tackling stress fueled by today’s fast-paced lifestyle to exploring groundbreaking clinical results, this conversation is packed with valuable insights you don’t want to miss. 🧠💡 Learn why sleep is the ultimate biohack, how cortisol impacts your hormones, and the simple lifestyle changes that can dramatically improve your energy, recovery, and well-being. Plus, Justin shares the inspiring story behind the creation of Rebalance Health and how it’s changing lives, including his own wife’s journey. 💪❤️ Tune in now for actionable tips, relatable stories, and mind-blowing science that will have you rethinking your nightly routine. Don’t miss out—watch now and subscribe for more insider secrets! 📺 Hit that subscribe button and join the conversation on how to reclaim your health, one night of sleep at a time. 🚀💤 CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Justin’s Clinical Study Results 00:29 - What is Cortisol 02:20 - Causes of High Cortisol Levels 06:38 - Today’s Sponsor: Kinsta 06:55 - Importance of Sleep Hygiene 12:27 - Rebalance Health 17:55 - Cortisol and Its Symptoms 19:08 - Making Better Health Decisions 21:55 - Preparing for Sleep 23:57 - Recommended Sleep Duration 26:15 - Exercise and Sleep Quality 27:55 - Understanding Supplement Ingredients 29:10 - Effectiveness of Supplements 32:07 - Where to Purchase Supplements 32:47 - Hydration and Water Intake 34:09 - Closing Thoughts APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: [e-mail] GUEST: Justin Hai https://www.instagram.com/justin_a_hai/ https://rebalancehealth.com/ SPONSORS: KINSTA:  https://kinsta.com/dsh LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ #nootropics #anxiety #sleephygiene #biohackingtips #melatonin

The clinical study was 80%. Holy crap. That's insane. The average improvement in sleep, duration of sleep was in the high 70s. There was improvement in recovery, energy, libido, hair, skin and nails, reduction in anxiety, and recovery from stressful situations much faster. Damn. much faster. Yeah. All right guys, we got Justin here, CEO of Rebalance Health.

Thanks for joining us today, Justin. Thanks for having me, Sean. Yeah, we're going to talk cortisol. One of the most misunderstood things on social media, right? Absolutely misunderstood. Yeah. What are the myths you see around cortisol? Cortisol face is one of the big ones that cortisol is stress. Stress is cortisol.

Stress is anxiety. Everything gets kind of interwoven to one another and they are linked, but they are not interchangeable. Yeah. I actually assumed it was stress. So it's not stress. It's the easiest way of doing it. It's cortisol is your fight or flight hormone. It is your body's natural alarm system to tell you when you need to be on alert. Typically it's, you know, used as a safety system. Highlight you're about to be mugged. There's a fire in the building. Something's happened that, you know, requires your instant attention.

Like there's, you know, an accident, there's a fire. Something is to get you up. Then all of a sudden adrenaline kicks in and that is the, basically the, the chemical that's helping you actually get into action. So one is kind of waking you up to it, getting you hyper focused. The other one is getting you into action to actually do something about it. Got it. And the problem that we have as a society, especially over the past 30 years, is

the fact that our cortisol levels are getting higher and higher and higher because we are doing more and more and more at a faster pace. Mm. Yeah. And that's what's causing high levels of cortisol, which directly affects how we sleep. And that sleep is what is critical to all of us. It's the original biohacking. If you sleep, you actually get to regenerate, to recover, and in your deep sleep, you make your sex hormones, your testosterone, your estrogen, your progesterone. So a lot of people are supplementing with HRT when really they should be focusing on

protecting and getting more sleep. Interesting. Why do you think the cortisol levels are so high these days? Technology 100%. So phones. Yeah. If you think about it, um, 30 years ago, we didn't have the internet, right? Or just beginning, we didn't have email.

We didn't really have smartphones at all. And so the, the pace of life was much slower. You wanted to watch a series of TVs. You go to get a DVD or blu-ray, something like that. And you could go through it, but it was costly, right? You'd have to have a lot of money to go binge watch all the shows. Cause you'd have to buy the DVDs and the blu-rays. Prior to that, you would go to Blockbuster or video store and you would be one or two

copies of that movie behind the sleeve on the shelf. And if you were lucky, you've got that one and you'd like to watch it. Yeah. Right. One per weekend, maybe two, you didn't get to watch episode after episode after episode. And so we have become addicted to whether it is work or whether it is content or

whether it's entertainment, it doesn't matter. And now when that phone beeps or dings, our cortisol rises. Did someone respond to us? How many followers looked at my podcast? How many people are subscribing? How many people are ordering that rises our cortisol levels, our stress levels. Everything gets elevated. And what happens is you're unable to actually fall asleep.

Because by the time you go into bed, your cortisol levels through the roof. Damn. I'm guilty of that for sure. Right. So you lie in bed and you just, you know, monkey brain. Yeah. I'm scrolling on TikTok and just getting dopamine. Right.

You're getting that hit and forget about blue lights and all the stuff that's triggering, you know, the body to naturally release cortisol. But you, you want to turn your brain off, right? Get your cortisol levels as low as possible. So you can fall asleep quickly. And then key word here, stay asleep, right? You even waking up once, even to use the bathroom is clinically, um, treated as a bad night's sleep.

Damn. Yeah. Do that a lot. Yeah. So that's considered a bad night's sleep. Bad night's sleep. Why is that? Because you interrupted your natural circadian rhythm, your light deep REM

sleep cycle, and you only get 60 to 90 minutes of deep sleep on average a night within a seven to eight hour period of uninterrupted sleep. Right. If you wake up, you actually forfeit deep sleep. Damn. And so you're making less and less deep sleep. Guess what you're making your deep sleep Your hormones hormones. Yeah, and so if you're going to go 60 to 90 minutes and you wake up two or three times

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Now you also make HGH, the human growth hormone. And if that's basically your recovery hormone. And so that's what's making us invincible when we're in our twentiess, maybe less so invincible in our 30s. And in the 40s, everything starts to ache and we're not quite able to do what we used to do as fast as we used to do it. That's because we're not making as much HGH or testosterone for men and women.

And so as we're getting older, we actually have to be more and more diligent about our sleep and look after our sleep. More so than you have to worry about ice baths or infrared saunas, right? All these other wonderful things that you can do. The foundation of biohacking, if that's the term you want to use, is sleep. Yeah. It makes me wonder, all these people that are injecting hormones, have they been told about getting good sleep first?

It's a great question. Now, I am a proponent of HRT. I think it's a great scientific solution for a lot of people. You had a hysterectomy, if you're older in life, you're not making those hormones because you just probably aren't making as much. Even if you get the seven to eight hours of sleep, you're on a diminishing scale. And so augmenting with HRT makes sense, but not when you're 30, unless it's clinically necessary. And so I think what's happening is people are jumping

to HRT too quickly and it's a great solution, but it shouldn't be the first. Yeah. I've also heard once you're on it, it's hard to get off. Right? Well, the study shows specifically with HRT that if you've been on it for more than 12 to 18 months, there's an 80% chance your body will never make that hormone again, even if you

come off of it. Dang. So you're on it for life at that point. Pretty much. Holy crap. Right. Not everyone, but the vast, vast majority of people in the studies show that their bodies don't make it again, so they have to get back on it.

Wow. That's nuts. Yeah. And they could have just worked on their sleep first. And then if that didn't work, maybe. Exactly. Yeah, that would have been the time. But it's not just sleep. It's sleep hygiene, right?

So it's preparing yourself for bed, right? You can't just go from your podcast room straight to your bed to go, I'm going to take eight hours of sleep. Right. It doesn't work that way. Right. So you still have to look after your health, your exercise, right? And there's no science, rocket science to to this burn more calories than you consume.

Right. Drink lots of water, eat healthy food, do some exercise of some sort and look after your sleep. You'll be amazed at how wonderful you feel. And when it comes to getting ready for sleep, like let's turn off the screens. Let's turn off all the stimulating content at least two hours before bed. Right. Let's not have a big meal just before bed.

Why? I'm going to wake up and use the bathroom for five hours later. Right. Right. So consume your calories and your water content as early as you can in the day, maybe into the afternoon. And yes, you know, it may sound like an old fart. Yeah.

Five o'clock reservations for dinner. Sounds really good because if I'm going to bed at 10 o'clock, I don't want to be eating at eight, eight o'clock or seven o'clock. Yeah. It's too close together, which is going to disrupt my sleep. And the older we get, the more maniacal we have to be about our schedule. Yeah. Those late dinners mess me up, man.

Yeah. And alcohol messes people up. I get invited in Vegas to late dinners and alcohol and bar and stuff. And I'm like, nah, I can't do it. I feel like Brian Johnson sometimes. But I mean, alcohol, everyone thinks it's a sedative. It's going to help put me to sleep. It is a sedative for the first hour or two, and then it gets metabolized

and becomes sugar and becomes a stimulant. And so guess what happens? Most people, when they drink and they go to bed. They'll wake up a few hours later. Yep. I Feel way worse when I sleep after drinking absolutely way worse. Yeah, so I'm a proponent of everyone drinking at breakfast Irish coffee is it? But seriously, it's about looking after yourself and setting yourself up for success. And you don't have to be a monk about it and be a priest to be absolutely perfect. But 80% of the time, you should really try and do that for your own health. And you'll be amazed at how good you feel.

I agree. It used to take me hours to sleep. I thought I had an issue. I've gotten it down to probably like five minutes now. And I've heard Brian Johnson say, if you can't fall asleep within five minutes and you probably have an issue, right? Yep. Absolutely.

My wife thinks I'm like one of those dolls as I go this way. My eyes just shut. Oh, you're that quick. I can go that quickly. Wow. Yeah. That's impressive, man. Yeah.

Yeah. I had this, uh, triple click trick. Shout out to Paul Sala. Do you know? Blue lights off. Yep. Yeah. That's a, that's a good trick right there.

You know, what's a better trick? Not using it at all. Yes. I still need to use it in bed. You know, a hot bath, a shower, a steam meditation, a ground to go outside and ground, take your shoes, socks off, put your feet in the earth and just breathe. Be amazed at how quickly your whole body calms down. It's hard to be grounding. It's tough to find out here though.

Grass. I got turf in my backyard. Yeah, you know what I find that works for me is I actually have a grounding sheet on my bed. Mmm. Do those work? Because I'm skeptical of those. I couldn't tell you to be... Basically, I bought the one that plugs in.

That's what I have. The one you stand on, not the bed one. Yeah, no, I have the bed one. It just plugs in and scientifically makes sense. It goes out, that's what I have when you stand on not the bed one. Yeah, no, I have the bed one. It just plugs in and scientifically makes sense. It goes out, it's grounded. That's what it does as long as the house is built correctly to code. And it should help you ground. Okay.

But, uh, for me, yeah, it's about getting a routine together. This set you up for success. Yeah. And there comes kind of our product and what we're doing with Rebalanced Health. Yeah. We're going to dive into that. The routine is so important. I used to make fun of my girlfriend for like changing clothes before bed,

but it helps her sleep. And have a shower. Yeah. Like shower and then changing into pajamas. It actually works. Yeah. They actually say sleeping naked is better. Really?

Yeah. Because you actually want the temperature of the room to be cold. You want your body to drop some temperature, your heart rate slows down, everything gets calmer. And actually having clothes can actually get you hotter and again wake you up. That makes sense. Right? It's not a sexual thing. It's literally what we do is try and calm our bodies down, get our body temperatures lower and again set ourselves up for success. And certainly don't put the cell phone by our bedside table. I have a Faraday bag, put it in there.

Smart man. Yeah, those are exactly. Rebalance Health, let's dive into that. So you guys just did a sleep study, right, with Sleep Score? Yeah, we've got a bunch of studies. It was a very interesting story. So I left my first company, Elastin skincare, and Nestle asked us to look into a supplement for skincare. And we looked at it, we looked at it and it didn't quite resonate with us. And we pivoted towards endocrinology. And we did that because the original iteration of Elastin had HGH in it before we came to

market and then we switched it to peptides before we actually launched. And so we already had this kind of fascination around endocrinology and hormones. And I did a deep dive for about three or four months into hormones and I fell in love with cortisol. I just thought it was the coolest hormone out there because believe it or not, every molecule in your body has a cortisol receptor. Really? No other molecule or hormone reacts in the same way.

So when your cortisol is elevated, right, you feel it from head to toe. You're like, damn. That's why panic attacks, you feel it everywhere, right? Yep. Everywhere. Everywhere. Yeah. I thought I was having a heart attack one time.

That's not fun. No. Paper bag is helpful. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that actually works. The paper bag. Is it cause the carbon dioxide? Yeah. And so I just fell in love with cortisol and I was like, wow, this is pretty cool. And as I spoke to experts in the space, they started educating me more and more and more and more experts came in from different fields and basically we said, okay, well, let's try and put a supplement together.

That actually supports lowering cortisol. And as I was going through this process with the team, something crazy happened. My wife was diagnosed with a cortisol disease called cushions. Wow. What are the chances? Like universe hit me over the head with a brick, right? Yeah. And she wasn't doing well.

Like, she went on to pharmaceuticals, she went on to supplements, she tried everything. And there was a point in which I actually thought she was going to die. Damn. It got that bad. And so what turned out as a really fascinating project and business venture became like, a just maniacal journey for me. I have to figure out how to do this because I can actually potentially save my wife's life. I'm glad it did get to that extreme where we actually thought that she was going to die.

It was just an internal fear that I had because I just saw love in my life just whittling away there, not being able to sleep. And so what we decided to do is we went with, okay, what are the best ingredients on the planet to utilize? And not from a cheesy perspective, but let's not reinvent the wheel. And so we went to Ayurvedic doctors, we went to Chinese doctors, we found all these wonderful ingredients that you know all of them. Ashwagandha, marcai, althining, ginseng, bacopa, oat straw, these are all ingredients, roots and herbs that have been proven for literally hundreds and hundreds of years to be efficacious to support the body with their endocrine

system and particularly with cortisol. And so we said, okay, let's put a formula together that kind of works based on all these doctors' guidance. Then we took two other things in consideration, which I think a lot of companies forget about, which is metabolism. That you have breakfast, lunch and dinner every four to six hours you eat, right? You may snack in between whatever, but your body is designed to utilize whatever you put inside of it. And then it needs more.

So how can you control a hormone that's 24 seven by taking one supplement a day? Because in four hours it's been metabolized. It's gone. So you took it this morning, all of a sudden building gets on fire. Of course I was going through the roof. Right. It's going through the roof anyway, regardless of whatever you take. The example is extreme, but your cortisol is not being managed

by that supplement anymore. And so we've decided on a system, a cortisol system to help keep people in the normal ranges of cortisol, not up here in the extremes all day long. And so we put together a system, a lozenge in the morning, a lozenge in the afternoon, and a lozenge before bed to help support the 24-hour period. And then we looked at delivery systems as to what would be the best. And nothing beats a subcutaneous injection or an IV directly into the blood. Nothing beats that, but then we would be a drug. And so then we looked at the best delivery systems thereafter, which could be anything from nasal sprays to lozenges to gummies, et cetera.

And we chose a lozenge and that wasn't good enough at that point. Once we'd done that, we're like, okay, let's test it. Let's actually test the product, not just the ingredients, which a lot of companies do, let's test the product. So we actually got some IRB studies done, double blind placebo, open label, single placebo studies done and published. And craziest things started to evolve. We started getting phone calls from women going, my heart flashes have gone. I'm losing weight. I've never slept so well in my life. My kids

and my family like me again. I'm no longer hormonal and going crazy as I'm going through perimenopause. Guys are saying the same thing. I feel energized. I'm sleeping great. I've got my testosterone. I've got my mojo back. My testosterone levels are increasing. I'm lifting more at the gym, I'm a nicer guy, right? And then with other people saying, I just feel more even, more calm. It's all linked to cortisol, 100%. And so the challenge that Rebalance has is trying to educate people that cortisol is the root cause.

The symptoms that you're experiencing are often one or two derivatives removed from that cause. So people don't consider having too much visceral fat around their stomach as they get into midlife is directly related to cortisol. Wow. People aren't relating the fact that I'm not sleeping to cortisol. People aren't relating the fact that I have low testosterone to cortisol. Why?

Cortisol prevents you from sleeping. Sleeping is where you make your hormones. It's a simple cause and effect. That's crazy. I had a ton of, this is actually one of my big health scares. I had a ton of visceral fat on my organs and I'm super skinny.

So I was like, what the hell's going on? But it probably was cortisol. Cause I was pretty stressed at the time too. I've never known anyone to work as hard as you do, Sean. I do work pretty hard. Hard as the day. Yeah. There's a good reason.

Twice a week. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. 15 a week. So prioritizing your sleep, prioritizing your health, like we've, we spoke about in the, in the room prior. It's not easy, but if you understand the cause and effect, it might help you make some better decisions.

It doesn't mean you have to be perfect, but it might make better decisions for the better of your health. Yeah. Well, I really value sleep. I have an eight sleep mattress and I track my HRV and my sleep scores and it's, as I get older, it's so noticeable when I sleep badly, I notice it the next day, a hundred percent. Well, it's amazing. We actually have the CEO and the founder of sleep number beds on our board and it's all related. It's all connected. And it's actually quite simple when you explain it, but it's not so simple when there's so much noise in the space around. A lot of noise.

A lot of noise, right? Isn't it like people scroll the length of the Eiffel Tower on their phone every day? I can see that. So how do you stop and actually learn something? Yeah. Right. Because we want something that's going to make us laugh or something that we find funny. Most of the time, not everyone stops on all the educational content

and we've become impatient. Very, very impatient. I don't like lines. I pay to skip lines. I'm not that impatient. Like I really don't like lines. Yeah. I'll leave if I'm not impatient. Like I really don't like lines. Yeah. I'll leave if it's too long.

Yeah. No, I hear that. My dad, one of my childhood memories is him at the grocery store. We would leave if the line was too long, had a full shopping cart and just leave it in the middle of the store. He's going to take it. Yeah. He was super impatient.

Yeah. I don't know if that rubbed off on me. Could have been poor sleep, man. I, I'm not a fan of queues or crowded places either. Yeah. So when it came back to rebalance, it's really simple. There's a lodging system. Take one, feel good.

Take two, feel great. Take three and change your life. Can't wait to try it. Yeah. It'll be- Of course I'm with me. Oh, and it'll be cool. Cause I can measure it on the eight sleep.

I don't know if that correlates, but- I don't know. You're a hundred percent correct. So everyone goes, well, I'm going to mention my cortisol. Well, it doesn't quite work. Yes. Cortisol testing is important, but a lot of doctors dismiss it because you could have a fear of needles.

You go to the needle and they get a blood draw and all of a sudden your cortisol is going through them, right? You could have had a really bad conversation with someone prior to having your cortisol testing and then your cortisol is through the roof. And so it fluctuates all day long. And so it's really a tough test because it's really a snapshot of what happened at the moment in which you took the test. Yeah.

And so what we recommend and what we've proved with sleep studies and sleep score, um, is simply measure your deep sleep, measure your deep sleep. If you're getting more deep sleep, you will feel better. And you will know if you're actually aware of this now, it's not, you're going to be okay, I'll see. Cause I got all the data from the past few months. Exactly. I get my aura ring.

I get my, my, my sleep bed AI app. And you know, I'm often, um, either in the high eighties or in the mid nineties. Stop score. And that's one of the first things that people experience with rebalanced health is like, I've never slept so well. It's normally something that people experience within the first few days. Like, Oh my God, I've slept better. And well, I'll just take the sleep one.

Well, there's the mistake. Preparing for sleep actually starts when you wake up. Well, to close, I was way out of whack by the time you get to bed, right? You're not going to fall asleep or stay asleep and you can't just go from up here in cortisol and drop straight down here where you need to be. So the natural curve is you want a nice high cortisol level in the morning with the normal ranges. It comes down in the afternoon as you transition from what I call work mode to

play mode. And then you get ready for your bedtime routine and you're bringing that cortisol down nice and gradually so that you're in a relaxed, calm state so that you can fall asleep. Interesting. So you can't just go full speed, then drop and go to bed. It doesn't work that way. Yeah. And so you have to prepare for it early.

And what Rebalance does is help you stay in those normal ranges and kind of take the highs off and the lows off. And so just suck it on these middle lozenges really makes a big difference. And, um, you know, you end up being addicted to them because they work. Yeah. Um, measuring cortisol is not something you do or no, cause a blood test, right? You can do it through blood, saliva, urine. Um, it can be done.

If you're going to do a cortisol test, I highly recommend the 24 hour urine collection, which is fun because you're carrying around a big jet and every time you need to urinate, you put it in there and then they, they test it. But again, if you had an unusually high stressful day, it's going to be high. And if you've had an unusually mellow day, it's going to be low. So it's not something that you can easily get a score on that it reflects what your true lifestyle is suggesting. Right.

It's, it's how to act like trying, trying to control your breathing. It's very hard to try and can track your breathing. It changes, right. It's just constantly evolving. Yeah. And so it's the same thing. So really I'm maniacal for sleep. It is all about sleep and aura rings, you know, fit bits, the whoops,

the Apple watches, it doesn't matter. Track your sleep with the same device and you'll get a trend and you'll be able to figure it out. But you want to be aiming for 60 to 90 minutes of deep sleep. And if you get more fabulous, um, but majority of the population will get 60 to 90 minutes. I remember watching shark tank as a kid and Damon John said he only sleeps five hours a day.

You know, that is an interesting topic that we've spoken about quite a bit, which is there is a mentality in the United States to do more, work harder, sleep less time is wasting. There's opportunity out there, but at what cost. And I'm not talking about money, talking about your health. And so, um, scientifically speaking, medically speaking, you need seven to eight hours. And the way that I look at it is if I got, if you got four hours of sleep, how are you functioning that next day?

Are you a hundred percent with it? Are you as sharp as attack? No, not even close. Right. So you're making bad decisions, potentially, or making poor judgment calls versus if I got the seven to eight hours and you are operating at, you know, 95, a hundred percent effectiveness, you're going to be far better off. You're going to do more in a shorter period of time than you would if you

operate on less sleep and needed all day to get it done. So there's efficiency associated with actually looking at it going, Hmm. Yeah. If I actually get a good night's sleep, I'm going to be 10 times more productive and effective tomorrow than if I got two hours of sleep or three hours of sleep. And a lot of people wear that as a badge of honor. Yeah. I need to operate on three hours of sleep.

I'm like, well, I'm not getting in the car with you. How, they say you're actually drunk, right? If you don't sleep. Yeah. Like your blood alcohol is the same level. You're not about blood alcohol, but I mean, in terms of your, um, you know, decision-making skills and reflexes and ability to make decisions when operating on the heavy equipment or whether you're driving a car or whether you're making

financial decisions and important life and death decisions, you shouldn't do it on three hours of sleep. Yeah. I remember college people loved those all-nighters studying all night. And again, it's different. When you're younger, you can do more, like because you've got more hormones in your system,

HGH test, I'll show you this, they're amped up. So you can kind of push yourself. As you get older, it becomes really detriment to do it that way. Yeah. You really make bad decisions. And you can, I think, As you get older, it becomes really detriment to do it that way. Yeah. You really make bad decisions and you can, I think, Huberman on his podcast a couple weeks ago spoke about you can kind of correct a bad night's sleep by getting a good workout

right away in the morning. I saw that. Yeah, I saw that too. Yeah. But you can't do that every day, right? You can do it as a corrective measure maybe once every 10 days or so, but you can't do it back to back to back and expect to be a hundred percent. Yeah.

Yeah. That one was surprising me. I remember you working out could offset bad sleep. That was crazy to me. Yeah. Shout out to Huberman. He's coming on the show actually. Oh, congrats.

Yeah. I'm going to try to do my best on my own. Not that guy knows everything. Yeah, he does. Hopefully I could teach him a thing or two. He's got one of the top, he might be the number one health podcast right now. I think yeah, definitely up there. Yeah, he's got some insane episodes, man.

I've learned a lot listening to his show. But there is a lot of noise on social media in your space. There's a lot of noise. I mean, you know, whether you go on the NIH website or Harvard Medical School, all the different studies out there, there's evidence that 95% of supplements don't actually enter your body. They just go in the mouth and they go out, urinate them out. And it's a $60 billion domestic market, which means Americans have the most expensive urine on the planet.

Oh my God. That is insane because people spend so much money on supplements. Well, there's a lot of smoke and mirrors around it, right? There's a lot of, hey, I use Ashwagandha and his 50 studies. It says Ashwagandha is the good for this, this, this, and this. Therefore I am able to claim that. And that's completely false. You can't claim that.

You actually have to do your own studies on your own product. And I would venture to say that a very small percentage of companies actually do tests on their product in the terms of IRB independent third-party clinical studies. That's why I only buy third-party test of supplements. I'll pay triple the price. I don't care. I can't speak to that. I don't have the expertise on that to comment it but you know logically it makes sense. I would only use products that I can know for sure have come to the right place. I'll give you an example. When we get our ingredients into a manufacturing facility, they're not clearly definitive.

Like you see the pictures of a mint leaf and you see a picture of a ginger root. They look very different, right? But when they come into the manufacturing, they don't look like white or off-white powder. Hmm, that's weird. Right? They're all powders, right? Think about everything goes in the capsules and the tablets, They don't look like white or off white powder. Hmm. That's weird. Right? They're all powders, right? Think about everything goes in the capsules and the tablets, right? They're powders. They're dried and they're turning to powder.

Well, when we started seeing that, we're like, test every single one to make sure, A, it goes in tandem with the certificate of analysis that we receive from the manufacturer, make sure it is what it is. This is 20% failure rate. Holy crap. Right. And there's plenty of studies and, uh, you know, watchdog groups that have tested supplements and they said there wasn't the same ratio of ingredients that they said there was on the supplement label.

And there's, you know, the breaking cracking down on this. And so we test every ingredient, we test the product, and then we went ahead and actually tested the final product, not only for, you know, efficacy, but we tested it in the study groups. Yeah. And one of the big ones we did because we got so many great phone calls from women going, this has changed my life, is we said, let's do a hot flash study. And so we did a hot flash study in 2023, 2024. Halfway through the study with over a hundred women in the study, we submitted the preliminary data to the North American Menopause Society.

They actually invited us to present at their annual meeting to all the doctors in the meeting. We had a big poster display. And then they actually published in their medical journal the preliminary results. Later in 2024 when the final study was published, it proved that there was a hundred percent efficacy meaning every single woman in the study saw a benefit. The average reduction in hot flashes in the clinical study was 80%. Holy crap, That's insane. The average improvement in sleep, duration of sleep was in the high 70s.

There was improvement in recovery, energy, libido, hair, skin and nails, reduction in anxiety and recovery from stressful situations much faster. Damn. And so again, we've actually tested the product. So take one, feel good. Take two, feel great and take three and change your life. That's insane. A hundred percent efficacy. I've never heard that high.

We hadn't either, but you can look it up at the, at the medical journal, Nutraceuticals and Food Sciences. Wow. Where it was published. So it really works on women. I need to give some to the fiance then too. It works on everyone. As long as you kind to the fiance then too. It works on everyone. As long as you kind of take the lifestyle choices as well, right?

It's not a magic pill. Everyone wants a magic pill. That's why they jumped to HRT. Right. It's not a magic pill. You still have to make the good lifestyle choices, meaning eat healthy food, drink lots of water, just prioritize sleep and be absolutely maniacal about how you use technology. Right.

You've got to put that phone down. You've got to start watching TV. You've got to stop binge watching and being obsessed with it. And I know people run their businesses on it, but we haven't evolved as human beings. We're the same human beings we've always been for thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of years. This technology has only been around for 30 years. This is a new problem.

We didn't have, our grandparents didn't have this problem. They didn't have trouble sleeping. They didn't have a problem with cortisol. Now, great depression, war, hell yeah, of course. But I'm talking in general, take out the outliers. They didn't have a problem with cortisol. Yeah. The same way we do have that problem today.

And cortisol is completely linked in my opinion to technology. Probably the mental health crisis too. Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, people think that's just a reporting thing, but I think it's actually worse. I think people are definitely experiencing worse symptoms than before. A lot of people don't report it. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Damn. 70% improvement in sleep, 80% reduction in hot flashes. Incredible, man. Well done. Thank you. Thank you. Could people just buy this online? Absolutely. Go to RebalanceHealth.com and buy the hot flash system. Cool. And again, it's about being consistent but also understanding the choices that you make every day to get the benefits.

Right. You cannot take the lozenges, sit on your couch, eat pizza, binge watch, whatever you want to binge watch and drink some wine and then go to bed. It won't work. Yeah. People love that glass of wine at dinner. Right. They do.

And it's their choice. Absolutely. But understand what is actually happening in your body that it actually converts to sugar within a few hours. You mentioned water a few times going to bed, dehydrated. Does that impact your sleep? Being dehydrated impacts everything in your body. Just really you want to drink. Um, I believe it's 50% of your body weight in ounces every day, if not more.

50%. Wow. So it'd be 90 for me. Yeah, I think that's it. Isn't that crazy even when you got... This is a liter, so I don't know what that is. Yeah, 25 ounces. So you got to drink four of these a day.

That's not too bad. No, it's not too bad. Plus if you eat fruit and stuff, that might have some water in it. Oh, everything, but try and drink water. Water, water, water. Yeah, not plastic though. Nah. Out of a glass. Out of a glass, for sure.

There's so many things that have gone wrong in the past 50 years. And just think about it from the baby boomer generation onwards, right? You think about mass production of food. You talk about plastics. You talk about kind of the innovations that have happened and everything for more convenience and speed and efficiency. But you know, we were better off when we were farm to table. I love farm to table restaurants.

I have this app called Sea-Dweller Scout. I only eat at Sea-Dweller free restaurants. Wow. Or if I don't, I'll ask them to cook it in butter. I know it's kind of extreme for people, but. You must have information overload. Oh, I do. The podcasts that you have.

Oh my God. What's true and what's not. I got to pick my battles, man. I really do. Yeah. A lot of information, but it's been awesome. Justin, anything else you want to close off with? Uh, no, just know that this comes from our heart.

We really have done the, the science we've done the research. We put in the time. This isn't something we just came to market with in the past six months. We've been doing this for the better part of four years. And it comes from trying to find a real solution that evolved into helping my wife. So we didn't cut corners, I didn't cheap out on ingredients,

we didn't cheap out on manufacturing. We actually paid attention to every detail. We did the work, we did the science, and it's as simple as sucking on a mint lozenge actuarine, we actually paid attention to every detail. We did the work, we did the science, and it's as simple as sucking on a mint lozenge a couple times a day to have a great night's sleep. I love it. I'll take it this whole week and post on my Instagram the results. Oh, you're amazing. Thank you so much.

Thanks for coming on man. Thanks for watching guys. Check out his stuff and I'll see you next time.