Digital Social Hour - Sabastian Enges on Reading the Bible Over 10 Times, Aliens & Weak Men In Society | DSH #163

Episode Date: November 20, 2023

On today's episode of the Digital Social Hour, Sabastian Enges talks about his takeaways from reading religious texts, psychedelics and why there is a weakness among men in society right now. BUSIN...ESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: Jenna@DigitalSocialHour.com APPLY TO BE ON THE POD: https://forms.gle/qXvENTeurx7Xn8Ci9 SPONSORS: Opus Pro: https://www.opus.pro/?via=DSH HelloFresh: https://www.hellofresh.com/50dsh Deposyt Payment Processing: https://www.deposyt.com/seankelly LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:32 right? And that's why the men are getting weaker. I would say that women have been proverbially and literally for the last few thousand years. Do you believe in karma? Do you believe offsetting good with evil or is it more karma is is constantly a process of balancing in that sense yes i would say you reap what you sow Welcome back guys to the Digital Soul Shower. I'm your host Sean Kelly. Got an amazing guest for you guys today, Sebastian Ingus. How's it going man? Excited to be here and everything's great. Yeah dude it was great chatting with you last night and really got to learn you and really impressed with what you've done. Thank you. I appreciate that. Great getting to know you too. I think what you've done here in
Starting point is 00:01:27 such a short amount of time is impressive. The amount of guests you've been able to get on and the quality of guests has been incredible. Yeah. Pretty cool. Yeah, man. So I'd love to dive into this. How did you get on this spiritual awakening or journey that you're on? We'll jump right in. As far as this lifetime goes, I've always been that way. It wasn't something that kind of happened to me in this particular lifetime. I feel like I'm here to help people spiritually awaken. Nice. I feel like humanity is at a crossroads or an inflection point where we're going to choose to either elevate or descend.
Starting point is 00:02:04 And so that motivates me. For such a time as this, it's a quote out of the book of Esther in the Bible, but for such a time as this, I believe this is the time to help humanity rise. Yeah, it seems like we're at such a crossroads right now. Has there been a time in the past where humanity was at a similar situation?
Starting point is 00:02:20 Yeah, that's a great question. Yeah, this seems to be at least the third or fourth time we've been here okay um and you know you could guess we've we've destroyed ourselves every time before this so uh einstein gets credit you know he was asked the question you know how we're how will world war three be fought and he he kind of sagely said i'm not sure how world war three will be fought but i'm certain that world war four will be fought with sticks and stones and all he was implying is that if humanity doesn't raise its consciousness if it's if it doesn't go from being a primitive
Starting point is 00:02:54 species to an enlightened species it will destroy itself again not the entirety that seemingly in our programming is this desire to survive so i don't know that we would destroy all of humanity but we will reset and try again many believe that that was what happened to atlantis you know you've had a number of guests who've talked about that and then lemuria to ancient civilizations that we know very little about that seemingly disappeared right so i think i'm very hopeful uh i think we i think we're going to get it done this time. I think we continue to learn and to grow, and it's time to figure it out. I love that. Why do you think consciousness is at an all-time low? Why do you think men are the
Starting point is 00:03:34 weakest they've been in ages? Not to correct you, but I would say I don't think that consciousness is at an all-time low. If you follow Dr. David Hawkins' work, he wrote Power Versus Force and a number of other books. He used muscle testing for truth. And he was able to calibrate consciousness on an arbitrary scale of one to a thousand. We've been over 200, which is a level of courage and where consciousness really starts to take leaps and bounds since the 80s. And we haven't dropped below that based on the last calibrations, though since 2016, we have taken a step backwards by like five or seven points, which is significant, but not in like five or seven points, which is significant, but not in the overall scheme of things, which is why I'm hopeful.
Starting point is 00:04:09 But I think we're going through massive transitions in our society right now. For the first time in a very long time, and if you study history, certainly not the first time, but first time in a long time, we're questioning every institution all at the same time. We're questioning the government which is typical especially in the u.s but um but governments capitalism um all of religion religion is you know people are kind of changing how they look at religion the education system health care they're all being challenged all at the same time and that can be very scary for people who like what's going
Starting point is 00:04:42 on because they're getting untethered right and you can get disillusioned in that which is actually an important part of waking up but we're untethering ourselves from old systems we just haven't developed the new ones yet right and so you see this with gen z who is in many ways rightfully so like hey the system doesn't work anymore right something's got to change and i think that's really exciting and i think you know there's a there's an old quote and i think it's pretty true. The father of innovation is necessity. And I think we're in a season where we're going to see a lot of innovation and change culturally. And I think we'll see a grand reset on the major institutions that our world is built on. Wow. And going back to the men stuff, I know we talked about this at dinner last night,
Starting point is 00:05:22 and you attributed it a lot to women wanting more power, right? And that's why the men are getting weaker. Not exactly. I would say that women have been f***ed proverbially and literally for the last few thousand years. If you study history, men have not been very kind to women for a number of reasons. And I think that's unfortunate. And so what's happened is when we react to air, a number of reasons. And I think that's unfortunate. And so what's happened is when we react to air, we cause more air. And there's been this move back towards empowering the feminine, which I actually think is an incredibly important thing. We need the feminine and masculine in balance so that they play together in the magic and the space of that. That really is the creative power that sustains this world.
Starting point is 00:06:03 But in doing so, it's messy, right? And so if we react to air, we cause more air. And the pendulum is swinging so far to the feminine that the masculine is trying to rec lot of men who aren't sure what it is to be a man anymore, are not even clear on what real masculine energy is, or is the masculine toxic. And there was a good study that was just recently done that showed that if men have a negative view of the masculine, they tend to have much worse mental health issues, right? So if they were told or they were taught that the masculine was toxic or it was violent or it was aggressive, and they don't know what to do with those thoughts,
Starting point is 00:06:51 they struggle a lot with mental health. When men are healthy in the masculine, they tend to be much better off mentally, which I think probably makes sense intuitively, but this is an important thing right now, and I think we are on a crossroads. And I think the true feminine wants the masculine to step up. It's not asking, like the feminine wants the masculine. The feminine is not against the masculine.
Starting point is 00:07:15 And so I think that's the work now we've got to come back into in a more appropriate balance. And do you believe within men, there's also a feminine side? A hundred percent. Well, to be, yeah to be yeah great great question to be fair feminine and masculine energy are in both men and women generally you identify one way or the other right men tend to and there are exceptions tend to have way more masculine energy right but do have feminine energy and there are an appropriate time to use feminine energy so for anybody who's a new dad you would probably oh yeah i get this right if you're a baby at home you tend to operate more in the feminine when you're around an infant right and there's a nurturing comforting energy there
Starting point is 00:07:54 that's really beautiful and necessary and women i think you know arguably somewhat of a tragedy are being asked to or in some ways may feel compelled or forced to show up in the masculine way more than they want to because there is a void of the masculine and a lot of men right now so yes you can play in both energies and and they're beautiful to play in but one tends to be predominant per now you've studied a lot of ancient texts you've studied a lot of religion i think you've read the bible over 12 times um what have you learned from studying all these different philosophies there's a few things i mean just to you know we could go a lot of different directions with that but to frame this i would say there's nothing new under the sun right i'm quoting ecclesiastes and
Starting point is 00:08:37 solomon there's nothing new under the sun i love when people try to claim originality on truth like there's there is no new truth it's simply rediscovering or re-remembering what we have forgotten and and in the the mostly the religious texts are there to i would describe as scaffolding to help us remember the truth once you remember the truth you don't necessarily need the texts but they help kind of throughout history pass on for better for worse some spiritual truths that help us remember and i do really i'm harping on that word because i really do think that's what it is it's not so much discovering but simply re-remembering what we've always known which is why generally when somebody hears truth and it bears witness it
Starting point is 00:09:20 bears witness here not in their mind but in their spirit they're like oh yeah like a remembering i remember that like that is true right it bears witness to them because they're simply coming back to something that they've always known they've simply forgotten is that what a gut feeling is yeah you could describe a gut feeling like that and you usually see gut feeling around intuition but it's when somebody says something you know is true it like it bears witness it's like something inside of you resonates with what they're saying and mentally you may not even understand it yet but here you're like that's true well what is that it's energetic alignment with something you've always known that you now remembering you're beginning to come back to yeah and so
Starting point is 00:09:58 that's humanity's work is simply remembering where we came from and where we're going yeah right and everything then becomes a question of identity and that's that we're so caught up in human identity that it's hilarious to me on many levels but we love our identities right now man they love pitting religions against each other but at the end of the day a lot of their messages are similar right similar yeah and they most of them carry pretty consistent truths yeah um i know you're big on psychedelics you've experienced a lot of them. Which ones really shifted your perspective on things? Well, I'm more excited about what psychedelics can do for humanity right now, because going back to this idea of remembering, it seems to be helping people
Starting point is 00:10:40 remember quicker. In any community, whether you're a sports fan or in some religion or some hobbyist community, there's always seekers. And there's seekers in the psychedelic movement too or the plant medicine space. And that always concerns me because there are people who they're not necessarily there to do the work. They just want to create the experience.
Starting point is 00:11:05 But I think plant medicine is a great modality for helping people get free. And we're seeing this a lot of evidence around using MDMA and psilocybin. I'm not a doctor. I don't play on the internet. Do your own research. But to treat PTSD, anxiety, depression with way higher efficacy than the you know the current antidepressant anti-anxiety medicine out there yeah and so that gets me really excited to see in that space and i have you know i generally don't recommend things i haven't experimented on myself first right uh
Starting point is 00:11:36 and so i have experimented some i'm not um not robust i've done a decent amount of psilocybin um and i've really enjoyed that space. And then as we talked about, I tried 5-MeO, which was incredible. But my opinion of it is that it can help people get free. I would generally not recommend doing, especially the first time, doing it by yourself, especially if you're going to do a full dose. Microdosing is different, but certainly a full dose. Get with a therapist.
Starting point is 00:12:05 Get with somebody who's trained in that space to help guide you or go to a shaman go into the jungles of peru or costa rica there's some great facilities now that can help you uh but if you know for those who are seeking and not finding answers it can be a great space to get into yeah to kind of help unlock and reset your brain and help you remember things that you've forgotten absolutely yeah i love the space for sure and you were able to achieve astral projection so your soul left your body there's people watching this that don't even believe we have souls yeah what was your experience like outside of your body for me it was it was familiar in fact the guy i did it with was like have you done this before and i was like not in this lifetime and he goes wow well
Starting point is 00:12:42 i've never seen anybody respond so fluidly to it. There was no resistance. Wow. I just enjoyed it. But 5-MeO takes you, you know, I would say, you know, psilocybin is generally a gentle teacher. You kind of ease into it. 5-MeO is within seconds, you're gone. Wow.
Starting point is 00:12:59 You do. You just, you leave your body. You're gone for a certain amount of time. For me me that felt very familiar it wasn't it wasn't disorienting and evidently it is disorienting for some people i didn't try to cling to my body i didn't god what's going on you didn't fight it no i felt very very comfortable um and i enjoyed it it was like my description is it was like going home wow um and so it was it was a very enjoyable process for me. I met a dude that I now know as Ram Dass,
Starting point is 00:13:27 but I didn't know who it was. He just was where I was. And we started chatting and we're having a great conversation, mostly just laughing like this deep belly laughter and just having a good conversation. And then the guy that was with me said, who are you talking to? And I said, Ram Dass. And he goes, Ram Dass is dead. And Ram responds, responds he goes i'm not dead yeah i think he's actually said i'm not dead you idiot i've simply left my body so i start chuckling we're having this good conversation but yeah for some that's probably like what in the world but i didn't what was interesting i didn't know who he was until after i came back from that journey then i went looked him up and i was like dude this guy ripped on the planet for a while he was having a good time and just recently passed away i guess like four or five years ago
Starting point is 00:14:07 yeah you hear stories of that where people see the same people or the same entities and it's it's got to all come back to something because it can't be a massive coincidence totally and you see that a lot in ayahuasca like people have a lot of the same experiences like well what do we do with that yeah if the collective is continually having a consistent experience, how do we just write that off or just say, oh, it's just an anomaly? For the skeptics, that's hard to ignore. That's what they say. It's like not everyone in the world that doesn't even talk to each other experiences the same thing.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Like, come on now. Yeah, I think you can use a certain amount of reason, critical thinking, to go, yeah, that doesn't seem likely. Now, what's your take on life after death? Because there's people that believe one life, it's over. Like, what do you think of that? Well? Because there's people that believe one life, it's over. Yeah. Like, what do you think of that? Well, I would say you do live one life. You are one life with thousands of expressions. So we could look at it, and maybe this is getting in the weeds too much, but say like a software program like Salesforce has many instances of Salesforce.
Starting point is 00:15:02 It's all Salesforce. It's just many instances of salesforce based on the company that needs the the software we are one life and we we exist out of time and space but we drop into time and space in some cases thousands of times which some would call reincarnation that's a typical expression for it right many lifetimes there's a great book on the the topic called many lives many masters for those who are interested but at this point i think if anybody's doing real research it's hard to deny what is quite to me quite obvious and intuitive that we reincarnate and reincarnate many many times over and there's you know lots of circumstantial evidence at this point to support that but but it's still all one life.
Starting point is 00:15:45 It's kind of like if you played a video game and I look at it like that, because this is mostly a simulation anyway, you're you, you can jump into a video game. I love the witcher, right? Every time I play with the witcher and I can play separate instances, I think I've completed the game four times,
Starting point is 00:16:00 right? Those are all separate instances of the same life. I'm still the one playing and expressing myself in multiple ways and sometimes i take different paths sometimes i do the exact same thing right well that's how i would i would describe life here right we we jump in we go i want to experience what it is to be a male or female or black white yellow whatever the the story is this religion that religion we get to try on all of these different things and we could say identities like clothes to experience what it would be like to experience life through this lens and that's part of our lesson that's part of what we get to enjoy
Starting point is 00:16:33 yeah i look at earth like a big sandbox we just get to have fun here and i don't mean to say that trivially because there are very intense emotions and experience that comes from that but it really is a place to express ourselves and experience life and i would offer our spirit is the creator of life our mind manifests the life and our body gets to experience the life that we're creating i love that so our body is designed to experience and it's obvious look at how it's designed it's right it's a it's a feel yeah it's a sensory it's everything sensory it's meant to be experienced and we're constantly creating our experiences this i've seen grown men cry when they realize this because so many people 85 of the population is living in life is happening to me that's their orientation to life i'm at the effects of life when you wake up to the fact that you are creating your reality daily you are creating your experiences it changes everything and you and we this intuitively. You could have two people
Starting point is 00:17:29 go through the exact same thing and have completely different experiences. Well, why? They're creating different experiences. So you believe we are in a simulation of some sort, but it's not predetermined. You could still control. The whole point is free will. Right. Right. And it's really both, to be fair. And I think we explained this, talked about this last night. Time and space, we could look at this pillow as all of time and space. Well, if you're sitting outside of time and space, if you look at time and space, you're seeing all of it. So in that sense, you could say, well, it's predetermined because I see it all at one time yeah if you're living in it it's free will because within time and space you're making choices conclusively to the direction you want to go
Starting point is 00:18:08 which creates multiple outcomes yeah that's an understatement and your belief on time is it's not linear like most people are taught everyone's taught that but it's not just a big grid right yep exactly so the past future all happening now yes now now is all there is of time right that's hard it's a hard one right because our mind doesn't think that way but now is all there is of time you're just living in this instance of time this instance of now do you believe you were put here for a reason i believe i chose to come here for a reason yes i was done what do you mean well uh we're getting into the weeds here but we come here our souls evolution um schoolyard earth is a place where we come to learn and grow and once you get to a certain level in your spiritual evolution earth is less
Starting point is 00:19:00 suitable or isn't necessary it would be like if you had already graduated high school and you're in college, going back into high school would probably not be that enjoyable. It's like you wanna learn new things, experience new things. So we're all kind of on this progressive journey and Earth is schoolyard Earth. It's a place where we get to learn and to grow
Starting point is 00:19:22 and experience things. And the average, say the average person takes we are at earth it's a place where we get to learn and to grow and experience things and you know the average say the average person takes a couple thousand lifetimes to get through earth and then you move on you move on to the next thing you're going to experience so we choose to come back every time we choose to come back nobody is forcing us to come here but we choose to come back specifically for lessons and you could look at it like school it's like okay i want to learn this great sign up for this you drop in and the conditions that allow you to learn those particular lessons what it is you want to learn but some come back to help others ascend that's the entire reason they're here they're done they're just here to help
Starting point is 00:19:58 interesting and it's not there's always lessons it's not like you ever stop learning you stop experiencing things but there are there are many on earth that are simply here to sustain a certain frequency and alignment so that humanity can align together and consciously ascend together wow so what's beyond earth after you've done your thousand or two thousand lives here what's what's next there are many universes really and we know this from a you know from a physicist standpoint we know this yeah astrophysics so um but there are many many universes that we can explore some of them far more ethereal more light body versus this is a very dense world by design because it kind of keeps the the density of this world keeps the the uh what do you put on the side
Starting point is 00:20:44 of bikes some training wheels oh yeah it keeps the training wheels on right it allows you to learn in in density so that you don't screw it up quickly if it was light thoughts would manifest quicker actions would have immediate impact because it's so dense here you're allowed to express your emotions and and learn how to control your emotions and your thoughts without it destroying everything right it takes too much energy you're more contained yeah which is why this is a great place to evolve once you get to a certain level many people call them aliens i guess that's a common term right now but we could say hebs are highly evolved beings yeah they're more ethereal they're more light body and they have a lot more power they can express themselves and
Starting point is 00:21:23 create way quicker but they're more evolved so they're less likely to destroy things still have free will but they're less likely to destroy things because they're more disciplined and what's that lifestyle like because i'm sure they don't care about money and at that point it's all knowledge right well and that's how we know we're still a very primitive species the things that we still care about right we live in a world where if we decided to, everyone could have clean water. Everyone could have food every day. Everyone could have electricity. We just as a group, as a collective, have not decided that's important enough yet, which is wild to me.
Starting point is 00:21:55 And that will be one of the indicators we're really evolving is when we stop seeing ourselves from separate from the other, but seeing ourselves as a whole and protecting the whole, right? And I think we're getting very close as you see more and more people tired of selfishness and tired of there's irony in that because it's a double-edged sword, but there's more and more people are standing up for the collective, right? And so, and this is a passion for me is what I'm currently calling conscious capitalism where it's not just about profit it's about people too how can we make the world a better place for everyone not for a few but for everyone right right and that's so that's you know we still solve things with violence that's an indication of a primitive species very hebs do not use violence they don't and they would never
Starting point is 00:22:42 think to take someone else's life the only person that can take your life is you. Right? Like, that's the only person who has the right to take your life is you. And you can. It's your birthright. You can tap out of this existence anytime you want. Nobody's forcing you to stay here. That's your choice.
Starting point is 00:22:58 And for some, that may be very comforting to understand that. Like, you are choosing to stay here. You don't have to stay here. And despite the Catholic Church's leanings, you're not going to go to hell if you decide you want to tap out that isn't me telling anybody they should tap out i'm just saying it's like it's a birthright that nobody would come to this plane if they were trapped here so it's not a sin to no hell no it's no pun intended it's uh or pun intended but um no you nobody would drop in here if they were stuck here it's the fact that we can leave that is makes it inviting to come and there are a lot of beings dropping in right
Starting point is 00:23:32 now because they're curious about what's going to happen here because as i understand it and and i could be wrong it's not just humanity that's going to ascend literally the entire planet is going to ascend and my understanding is that's never happened before we never had an entire planet we could say mother earth if you will is going to ascend it's actually going to and most of the most of the religions certainly explain this you see this in christianity is the new heaven the new earth um talks about the new heaven and new earth but this isn't necessarily a new concept but we're getting very close and very close that would mean within the next few hundred years, I would guess. And what would Ascension look like?
Starting point is 00:24:07 Because I know back when the pyramids were built, we were probably being assisted by HEBs, right? Yeah. So would it look something like that, where they're mentoring more hands-on? Yeah, well, they can relate. If we move into the fifth dimension, HEBs won't have to conceal themselves. Like most of them don't come in announcing themselves. They're scared of us, right? They're not so scared of us as much as there is a strong directive to not mess with this planet.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Meaning they have to figure it out. You cannot do the work for them. So there's a very strong directive to stay out of the way. It doesn't mean you can't assist, but they have to do the work. Right. And so as a result, they conceal themselves. They're not going to announce who they are. There's certain things they can't do
Starting point is 00:24:51 because part of it is if an HEB shows up here and starts showing people how to heal themselves or to walk on water or to calm storms, they're going to be seen as a god by most of humanity. And when in fact, they're trying to teach us all that we are all God, we are all created in God's image and not to worship them,
Starting point is 00:25:09 but to worship divinity, to worship God, right? And so that's still hard for most of humanity because if they see somebody demonstrating powers that they don't understand, they'll either be afraid of them
Starting point is 00:25:18 and try to control them, aka most governments, or they'll villainize them as some scary being that could terminate all of us or they'll worship them so highly evolved beings once you've shifted into the fifth dimension you wouldn't see them that way but you would see them as your peers right right not worshiping them so that's pretty tricky yeah so why do they reside in the fifth dimension in particular well it's a great question many don't enjoy the density of and there are by the
Starting point is 00:25:46 way many that are in third dimension i shouldn't say many yeah there are some that are here in the third dimension in body in physical body fifth dimension is is you're still in a light body so you can you can and if you're operating in fifth dimension somebody in the third dimension isn't going to see you and we know this intuitively using physics. First dimension sees only the first dimension. Second dimension sees all of the second dimension plus the first dimension. Third dimension sees all of the third dimension plus the second and first dimension. And so on and so on and so on.
Starting point is 00:26:16 So if you're operating in the fifth dimension, you see everything lower than that plus where you live. So sometimes when people say they hear voices, right, well, that's somebody speaking most likely from the fifth dimension. They just don't have a way to see them because our eyes can't see in the fifth dimension currently. But they still exist. They're still there. In fact, many people who say they feel like they saw their mom or they felt their mom
Starting point is 00:26:37 after they passed away or somebody they loved, it's like, yeah, because they're still here. They're just, they got out of third dimension matter, right, body, but they're still hanging out in the fifth so spirits reside in the fifth dimension yes and above interesting so they can see us but we can't see them correct wow because every dimension again that's not woo-woo that's not spirituality that's science every dimension is superior to the last you see all of it plus the ones below yeah what's been your personal experience with HEBs? Have you met any, conversed with any, seen any? Yeah, yeah. I mean, I have had, in this particular lifetime, I've had many experiences where they just show up to let me know they're here. I got you. Right?
Starting point is 00:27:16 Where it's just like, sometimes I'm walking and thinking of one. I was walking downtown Seattle one time and this stranger walked right by me and he just, he put his hand on my shoulder on my way by and said it's gonna be good really and i was and i could see in his eyes i was like i know you wow and that was it it's just like those little exchanges um so they're subtle with it they're not gonna like no it for many reasons right for many reasons but they're not generally coming and part of the biggest reason is like said, if they came out and started demonstrating power that was beyond what the human mind is able to describe right now, it would have more of a negative impact than a positive impact. Because, again, you'd have governments trying to control them. You'd have people think that they're the enemy because they have more power. Science would lose its shit because it wouldn't know what to do with, like, how do we even deal with this?
Starting point is 00:28:04 And then you have people try to worship them. So you're trying to get people to ascend. And here's, I think what you're going to see with the people, this next group of spiritual leaders who are going to step up, aren't going to try to get people to worship them, but to point to how powerful you are. Right. And that will be a key. It won't be about a single individual. It'll be about humanity rising, the collective. And that I think is key. It won't be about a single individual. It'll be about humanity rising. The collective. And that, I think, is going to be the defining difference. From an intuition standpoint or a discernment standpoint, you'll know the difference. Somebody who's trying to say, look how great I am, that should be a big red flag.
Starting point is 00:28:37 Those who are pointing to humanity and what we can do as humanity and helping humanity remember who they are, that's a green flag. Love that. so you're trying to waste the spiritual level of everyone is there a group of people trying to do the opposite is there like an illuminati or whatever people call it humans are fascinating i've asked this question many times um i reserve the right to be wrong and And I have studied a lot of text. I'm not saying that there aren't special groups out there who have their own agenda. I think there most definitely are. I do not think there's some genius mastermind group, though, that is somehow far superior who's trying to work against this end.
Starting point is 00:29:19 I will say ascension happens through resistance right it's like the defining it's the the tension between the two that push it up so they're they're generally in the world that we live in which is largely largely dualistic in order for that to succeed you need its opposite so it you could intuit or infer then that there is an opposite resistance to this path, but not as a evil, like trying to work against humanity. In many ways, it's to assist humanity, which could be confusing because it may not seem like that, but it's in the resistance. So think about it this way.
Starting point is 00:29:58 Would Michael Jordan be Michael Jordan without Isaiah Thomas or Charles Barkley or Hakeem Olajuwon or Patrick Ewing. Right. It was all of these other great players that helped make him great. Right. Right. So maybe that's a weird analogy, but it was like in that tension,
Starting point is 00:30:14 in that challenge is how we move up. Okay. It's like you, that great opponent. And you think about like Pete Sampras and Andre Agassi, it's like the great opponents over time. So I don't look at it. I would not
Starting point is 00:30:25 describe them as like this evil mastermind group that wants to keep humans oppressed yeah but more groups that are creating resistance to support humanity and understanding who they are right so that being said do you believe in karma do you believe offsetting good with evil or is it more everything in the universe is trying to get back to homeostasis everything right so karma i think is i think is pretty self-evident in that sense right we know that again i'm using really this is a physics uh understanding is everything is trying to get back to homeostasis trying to get back to balance in fact i was a huge still a big huge star wars fan and it took me forever meaning like 15 years before i understood
Starting point is 00:31:05 the significance of the statement that anakin was supposed to bring balance to the force the whole forever when i heard that i kept thinking oh the jedi are supposed to overthrow the sith and wipe out the sith when in fact no both the jedi and the sith will dissolve in the end right it's it's the fact that they both exist that creates this issue. It's the releasing of. So karma is constantly a process of balancing. And so if you head too far one way,
Starting point is 00:31:34 then you're going to have the opposite. And so it has to find its way to balance. So in that sense, yes, I would say you reap what you sow. Interesting. I went through your Twitter. You had some interesting tweets. One of them was,
Starting point is 00:31:44 you believe happiness is a choice. Yes. Why do you feel that way? Yeah, thank you for that. I'm actually just getting on Twitter, so it's an early practice for me. But ultimately, I think most things are a choice. And I would go almost as far as say everything, but most reserve the right for some some there are things that may be more challenging to hear we are creating our world on a second by second basis and we get to choose how we experience things and how we look at things so I'm not saying that this can't be more challenging, specifically if you
Starting point is 00:32:25 have biochemical imbalances and things in your life that make it more challenging to experience joy or to experience happiness. But you can consciously direct your thoughts and focus onto things that produce the experience of happiness, or I think probably more accurately, joy. Because you can be joyful even while mourning right so i think about when my mom passed away and i was simultaneously mournful for the loss of her human my human experience with her on earth while also incredibly joyful for her path off the plane right so you can enjoy you can teach yourself to enjoy or to be enjoy even while there are things going on that seem to be the opposite of that there are other emotions that may be
Starting point is 00:33:11 challenging that but and that's likely um the discipline of the mind the discipline of what you're focusing on and how you choose to internalize what's happening yeah you also tweeted that uh being wealthy is a mindset yes what did you mean by that because most people think of wealthy like money-wise 100 this is and i get a lot especially with gen z i tend to get more kickback on this and it makes sense because they don't have enough they're too young to really understand this principle yeah um but you could take all of the wealth from all the wealthy people and redistribute it in the world where everybody starts with the same starting hand. Everybody gets the exact same amount of money within three to five years,
Starting point is 00:33:50 maybe not even that long in this day and age, 5% of the population will control 95% of the wealth. And the reason is simple. They understand the principles of wealth, which is a mindset. It is not a possession. And we know this a few ways. And you can backtest. I try to teach things in a way in which one can backtest what I'm saying for themselves.
Starting point is 00:34:08 So just a few examples. How many times have we seen somebody win the lottery, get a big sports contract, become a rock star, become an actor, and they go broke, go bankrupt? It's a lot. How could that possibly happen? Probably like 80%. Tons. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:21 And the reason is, is because wealth isn't a possession most people and as i've come to realize are more interested in consuming millions of dollars they're not interested in making millions of dollars and they are not the same thing most human beings are in unconsciously consumers and all they want to do is consume that is not the same thing as having a wealth building mindset or understanding the principles of wealth and so we see this the same with with wealthy people it's a popular thing with gen z right now to think that most wealth is transferred which in fact there was a big study that was done by ramsey's group that showed that was not the case that something like 85 percent or almost 85 percent of of millionaires are first generation they did not inherit i saw that and
Starting point is 00:35:04 there's many studies like elon gets a lot of crap and i'm not saying he came from poverty but he did not come from wild wealth and you know it's like well and jeff bezos his family was upper middle class but it wasn't like they were super wealthy and they're two of the wealthiest people in the world bill gates is another one his dad was an attorney wasn't bad off but he was not extreme wealth right so this idea that wealth is inherited in fact the hardest thing for wealthy families to figure out is how to pass down wealth effectively from one generation to the next and you see this more often than not where the the family line that generated the wealth is that that they pass it down and the next generation
Starting point is 00:35:43 loses it because they have no understanding of how to manage money because they've never needed to. They've always had money. So what with wealthy families, a very popular thing to do is to skip a generation. So it's like you don't give your wealth to your kids, you give it to your grandkids, which forces your kids to figure it out. Smart. Yeah. So that's what I mean. i mean wealth is a mindset so if you want to change your mindset around money if you want to have more money that's important to you don't chase money chase the principles of wealth chase the mentality of the wealthy they look at the world differently right than somebody who doesn't wow that's really unique advice i've never heard that perspective
Starting point is 00:36:19 on it i love that sebastian man it's been a been a pleasure anything you want to close off with no this is awesome. I really enjoy your conversation. Yeah, dude, where can people find you? I'm at Sebastian Ingus on all platforms. It's all A's so that people miss me there. It's S-A-B-A-S-T-I-A-N. But on all platforms, I'm most active on Instagram and TikTok,
Starting point is 00:36:39 which you can find me anywhere. All right. Thanks for watching, guys. I'll see you guys next time. Boom.

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