Digital Social Hour - Saving Military Veterans, Red Pill Movement & Attracting Women Out of Your League | James Devon Johnson DSH #314

Episode Date: February 25, 2024

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I'm able to contract models, like real signed models with credible agencies to essentially get paid to show up at parties. What a life, man. That sounds like a fun job. Some of the things that I've seen, even heard from others in the industry, you'd hear it and you'd think, there's no way this is real. This is fairytale land. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, it's absolutely real. Wherever you guys are watching this show, I would truly appreciate it

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Digital Social Hour. I'm with James Devin Johnson today. How's it going, man? Good, man. Thanks for having me on. Yeah. You got good posture, man. Is that from the military? Yeah, definitely stuff from the military. Plus, I have a terrible back after a little too many parachuting accidents. It's a constant focus of mine.

Oh, wow. So you were the guy jumping out of the helicopters on parachutes? Yes. I was a force reconnaissance Marine, spent nearly a decade in. Wow. So all the cool guy stuff that you see in the movies and video games. Mine is actually going to war as a peacetime Marine. But all the training exercises, got to do all that. Wow. So you had some tough landings on some of those falls?

Oh, yeah. Multiple traumatic brain injuries. Damn. Depleted cartilage in the knees, herniated disc in the back. It doesn't look like it by my appearance. Cause I stay very healthy, uh, work out every single day, but yeah, underneath it is a mess down there, but I do my best to keep up. Wow. So with all the injuries, do you think it was worth it? Uh, yeah. So I, I don't believe in regrets in life whatsoever. Um,

every single experience I've had, especially in negative experiences in my life, have built me to the person that I am today. So all those physical injuries, the mental hardships that I've had to deal with, those are all worth it. Got it. And you served for 10 years, you said? Nearly 10 years. Wow. So what was that like from beginning to end? Well, the beginning was much more years. Wow. So what was that like from beginning to end? Well, the beginning was

much more exciting. Yeah. Being young, fresh, right out of high school. I actually grew up in Canada. So transitioning to the U.S. to join the military was always a dream of mine. Wow. So once I got out to Camp Pendleton, California is like living the dream. I was very excited about it. Up until probably the last, I'd say three or four years of my career, once I got a little bit more senior in the ranks and more experience, that's when the motivation started to decline. Interesting. Yeah. So explain the ranks to me because I've heard of them, but I don't know exactly how it works. Yeah, of course. So bottom rank is private. Got private first class. Lance corporal, corporal sergeant, and then staff sergeant. That's the final rank that I achieved, E6.

I was the youngest promoted staff sergeant in the entire 1st Marine Division when I did get promoted. But that was short-lived. i occurred my major injuries uh back then i got gnarly scar on my wrist here um actually saved the dude's life when i got this scar i was a water survival instructor as a sub job yeah assignment and we had a guy drown during a course that i was running dang So it got a little messy there, but yeah, two surgeries later, never got better. And yeah, I spent probably like the last almost two years of my career in a medical status. Holy crap. That's insane, man. Sorry to hear that. Oh, don't be sorry, brother. It was all for the best. I'm actually incredibly happy all of that happened

because the military itself is an extremely toxic environment and it really limits the individual's ability to be able to truly grow and reach your max potential. I know that might be surprising to hear, but yeah, that's the reality of life in the military these days. Very negative environment for most service members. There's obviously a lot of those who are very brainwashed to the system, who spent a long time in the military, who served in Iraq and Afghanistan, those senior leaders that we currently have today. Yeah, so they're brainwashed. But overall, from what I've seen, it has more of a negative impact on the individual

rather than a positive. Wow. What a statement. So you said the last four years you witnessed that. Was it like that from when you first joined? I witnessed these negative things when I first joined as well, but I ignored them just because I wanted to stay on track with progressing. Shout out to the Science of Scaling podcast hosted by Mark Roberge. It's brought to you by the HubSpot Podcast Network, the audio destination for business professionals. Each week, Mark, founding CRO at HubSpot CRO and senior lecturer at Harvard Business School, interviews some of the most successful sales leaders in tech to learn the secrets, strategies,

and tactics to scaling company growth. He recently had on the head of sales from OpenAI, and that was a very interesting episode on the future of AI. Listen to The Science of Scaling wherever you get your podcasts today. Best thing in my career, I would just see them, sweep them to the side, and pretend they didn't exist. Wow. So when you say toxic environment, what exactly do you mean by that? Do you think it's just berating? Like they're just yelling at you and it's not productive? It's not necessarily the yelling and the traditional, I guess you could call it hazing style environment that you might see on TV,

movies, like bootcamp style. But I'd say it stems more so from the senior leaders, those guys who have been in for over 15 years, who went to war, saw combat. Like, yeah, of course, they're heroes, all respect to them. But back home, their mentality never switched. And that's where you see it being detrimental to the younger generation of service members who never got to experience war and combat. Right. Like service members deploy all the time to this current day. But very, very few, at least in the last decade, have actually seen hardcore combat. Oh, really?

So you didn't see any when you were there? I didn't see any action whatsoever. Wow. Ten years. Yeah. It wasn't that we had some wars within the last 10 years right oh there's conflict in the world constantly i've had friends who have gotten in firefights uh but again it's a very small percentage even

in the special operations community very small percentage wow of guys in the last 10 years have actually had to shoot their weapons at people. That's interesting because those guys are training nonstop, I bet. Oh, yeah. No, I spent the majority of my career training my ass off, destroying my body, not being able to see friends and family, only getting to stay for my first son's birth for about an hour before I had to leave. Jeez. And never got to see combat.

Oh, my gosh. So how many days did you get with your family a year on average? It varies. Deployment cycles change constantly. Okay. Training cycles change too. Training cycles will take you away from your family. Got it. But yeah, before I got put into a medical

status, I'd say maybe a quarter of the year I was actually home home. That's nothing, man. That's crazy. Especially just having a kid. Oh, yeah. I got two children. Wow. Fortunately, when my second son was born, I was in that medical status. I got to be around for him. But first one, at least for the first year of his life, not so much. Wow. And two kids with around for him, but first one, at least for the first year of his life, not so much. Wow. And two kids with the same wife, same girl. Yeah. Ex-wife now. Ex-wife. Very fortunately. Oh, fortunately. Yeah. No, that is a long, hard story, brother. Is it one of those classic stories where they cheat on you while you're serving? serving oh um that worse than that an utter atrocity with that one uh but it's weird it's not uncommon in the military hear it all the time yeah yeah i mean i get it but i don't you know

what i mean right like they're away from you for so long and you know yeah i mean it wasn't necessarily that like it ended when you know we're like i was home for months at that point because I was on that medical status. Right. But yeah, just certain toxicities. Then a whole drama show after that. But in the military, that's not uncommon. I had a buddy who was deployed for less than a year. When he came home, his house was completely empty.

Zero furniture, zero belongings. His two daughters were gone. Wow. And his house was completely empty. Zero furniture, zero belongings. His two daughters were gone. Wow. And his wife was gone. Had no idea what happened. Come to find out, his wife took his daughters to, I think, Guatemala. Jeez. And he hasn't seen them since.

That's super random. Why Guatemala? Nothing he could do about it. Wow. That's a shame. Losing your two kids? Yeah, he's lost his two daughters, basically. The legal system in the U.S. can't do do about it. Wow. That's a shame. Losing your two kids. Yeah, he's lost his two daughters, basically. The legal system in the US can't do anything about it.

Because she's overseas. She's overseas. Wow. So what's your take on marriage now after going through that? My take on marriage is a little unique. I definitely believe in the heart of marriage when it comes to a spiritual aspect. But signing a contract, getting a marriage license and letting the government control that aspect of your life,

I don't believe in whatsoever. Yeah, I agree. I mean, the risk to reward doesn't seem there. Oh, for men? Absolutely not. Yeah. I mean, especially, yeah, if you're the breadwinner, you're bringing home everything. It just doesn't seem like, I know a lot of successful men that feel the same way too. Oh, 100%. Like I basically, I was married twice. Oh wow. Yeah. And both times when those marriages ended, I had a complete restart. Jeez. So you had to give up half your stuff. Oh, more, more than half. The laws say half, but when you're in the courtroom, the judges, they're not very lenient towards the men. So in trying to argue, you end up spending tens of thousands of dollars in attorney's fees and it becomes pointless if you're a guy from what I've seen. Yeah.

Did you end up getting custody of the kids at least? Half custody? I did get temporary custody, but it always changes because they could always go back to record and request something new. Uh, so right now I only get to see my kids two hours a week. Jeez. That's nothing, dude. Oh my gosh. Um, I see on your Instagram, you're with girls all the time. Is that like for show? Are you actually chilling with girls like that? Yeah. So, um, back, uh, when I knew I was leaving the military, I recognize I got to start doing something different. Uh, I've always had side hustles

through my time in the military. Um, trying to earn money on the side, every, every chance that I could get is a military paycheck. Even when you are promoted to E6, it's just not enough. Right. Uh, so that's when I essentially had an epiphany and was like, I need to make crazy money. I'll just have a regular six figure job. I need to make good money. That's when I became an entrepreneur. I started with a private security company. Then I got into the private entertainment industry, which is why you see all the pictures with women on Instagram. It's an insane industry. Have you heard of like promoters, atmosphere models? I've heard of, are you talking about escorts? No, no, absolutely not. I know that's like a Vegas thing here. But yeah, I mainly operate out of Orange County, very respectable clientele out

there. It's like old money. Yeah yeah i've met a billionaire who owned like a traffic cone company traffic cone yes or like a concrete company things that are very boring you never expect yeah but the thing with all these multi-millionaires and billionaire types is generally they're not very interesting people the only thing they have going for them is their money but they still like to have fun and of course have attention from beautiful women. And they like to throw lavish parties. So people like myself who actually have the ability to obtain beautiful women and be around them, I've found essentially a gap in the market and I'm able to contract models, like real signed models with credible agencies to essentially get paid to show up at parties. What a life, man. That sounds like a

fun job. Yes, it absolutely is. And the story's utterly insane. Like some of the things that I've seen, you even heard from others in the industry, you would hear it and you'd think, there's no way this is real. This is fairytale land. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, it's absolutely real. Let's hear one of them. I'm curious now. Okay.

I have an interesting one. So I also temporarily ran a management company. Okay. I was able to tie it into the private entertainment industry as, you know, working with women, like guys with money are also, uh, looking for women on too. Yeah. I essentially found, you could call it maybe a sugar daddy type, you know, he just loves to throw money at women. Uh, and I had a girl who's very popular on and he was practically in love with her. And he was local in the area. He was like up in LA, we're down in Orange County. And he was

messaging on and I had chatters. Sometimes I'd go on there and chat myself with the girls. And he's like, hey, I really want to go to dinner with you. Like just dinner. I'll be respectful. Like don't even worry about touching or anything. Like we're just going to have dinner. really want to go to dinner with you. Like just dinner. I'll be respectful. Like don't, don't even worry about touching or anything. Like we're just going to have dinner. I want to spend time with you. $2,000. And I'm on the chat. Like, all right, cool.

Text the girl. You want to go out to dinner with this guy? He's wanting to pay two grand. Yeah. And she's like two grand just for showing up to dinner. Like, all right, let's do it. And so we set this arrangement up for her and then eventually her friend to show up to dinner too.

So he paid them each two grand at dinner. Wow. And for the food probably. And for the food. It was a very nice upscale restaurant. There's celebrities there. Yeah. I think, yeah, Tobey Maguire was at the restaurant at the same time.

It must have been like Delilah or something. Are you interested in coming on the Digital Social Hour podcast as a guest? Well, click the application link below in the description of this video. We are always looking for cool stories, cool entrepreneurs to talk to you about business and life. Click the application link below, and here's the episode, guys. Pardon me? Must have been like delilah or somewhere nice i can't remember the name but yeah it's very upscale um and i was just sitting

at the bar watching make sure everything's kosher and safe discreetly that's smart and this guy he is having the time of his life with these two beautiful models like he knows that he's paying to hang out with them and nothing else is going to come about it but just the experience alone for him was so incredible and then here's the greatest thing a third girl ended up showing yeah it is the friend of the second girl that was there i guess they were like texting at the table okay they convinced this guy to pay for a third girl to show up. Another two grand. Damn. And I'm just at the bar casually sipping on a drink, watching this whole thing go down.

The man is having the time of his life. The girls know they're just making a bag. By the time dinner ends, they all go to the bathroom together. And all the staff at the restaurant, all the male waiters go up to the guy they're like high-fiving hugging him like yeah bro you're you're amazing he's like literally jumping up and down like a child smiling wow and uh little do they know like these girls like they don't care you know they're there because they're getting paid. And then he ended up offering them more money. I think it was like another 1500 bucks each to go to a nightclub afterwards.

So they text me, they're like, Hey, we're making more money. We're going to go to nightclub. I'm like, okay, cool. Well, I guess I'll follow you guys there. You know, it was my responsibility to make sure they're safe because it is very common, especially in bigger cities, for guys to try to attempt to take advantage. And I'd absolutely feel guilty if that ever happened under my watch. So I follow them to the nightclub. Guy is completely obliterated from alcohol at this point. Still having the time of his life.

He's literally getting on the dance floor twerking like a a complete idiot making a fool of himself super old gosh he has to be in his 50s wow yeah that's like a midlife crisis very dorky looking guy um he he could have been the 40 year year old virgin for all we know um but then the girls are texting me like, hey, we're kind of done. He's getting annoying. Can you bail us out of this situation? Fortunately for me, through my private security company that I still run to this day, I had some connections with the management of that particular club who ran the bouncers. So I went up to the security manager and I'm like, Hey, uh, see those three girls over there? Yeah. They're there with me. Um, you know, they're entertaining that guy for a little bit, but they're kind of done getting annoyed. Um, would you be able to help me out just so I can sneak him out the back door? And they're like, yeah, we got you. So then before

you know it, bouncers are coming over the guy. They're like, Hey, excuse me, sir. Uh, we were getting complaints about you. Can you step outside real quick and talk to us? And he has no idea what's going on. He's like, oh, yeah, sure. Maybe I was acting too drunk, whatever. And then I grab the girls and we sneak out the back. Wow.

And we walked away with like. 10 Gs. Yeah, over 10 grand. Because he kept Apple paying at the club too. Wow. What a story. So the whole business model is find rich, successful guys that are socially awkward, don't know how to get girls, connect them with hot, young, attractive girls.

It doesn't necessarily have to be the socially awkward guys. I've had some very wealthy gentlemen who were in shape, good looking, even charismatic. But they didn't want to take the time and energy to talk to women themselves. And they're like, hey. You're saving them time. Here's money. Solve my problem for me. Smart.

Because they value their time a lot at that stage. Yes, absolutely. Because they're making so much money. Yeah, that's smart. Wow. And you do this in California mainly? Yeah, mainly out of Orange County. There's a huge market for it in LA. I know one of the

top promoters in LA and his clients are probably some of the richest people in California. But the thing with the LA crowd, they seem to be a little cheaper. It's an interesting dynamic. I think it's because the atmosphere in LA, there's so many celebrities, rich, famous people out there. All of the women who are in LA, they're there to chase fame and try to become relevant. So they're willing to show up to all these events and parties for free, basically. Whereas the Orange County crowd, they're nobodies. Like the traffic cone guy, the concrete billionaire, they're nobodies. They don't have Instagram, social media. No one knows who they are. They just have a lot of money. Interesting. So they're willing to pay a lot more to facilitate fun.

And how did you get good with girls? Because you were in the military for 10 years. There's no girls in the military, right? I was naturally gifted with being good with women since I was a teenager. So very easy for me. I mean, all my weekends, I'd go out, pick up girls at the bar, et cetera. Got it. Got it. You know, Instagram, DMs, Tinder. So that came easy for me. Damn. So you never struggled at all? No. Wow. Must be nice. I definitely did. Hey, that's all right. Most people do. And it really comes down to curating yourself as an individual. So I get asked questions all the time. Like, hey, how can I be more attractive to women?

How can I obtain more women? Especially those high quality, high value, gorgeous 10 out of 10 women. And I always tell guys it starts with yourself. Like if you as an individual are unimpressive and have nothing to show, no one's going to pay attention to you. Sure, you might get a bottom of the barrel woman who's not very attractive, who will cheat on you. But most men, we don't want that. We want somebody who's gorgeous, who we walk down the streets with and people are stopping and staring at her, a woman who is able to respect you in a relationship. And you're not going to find that

unless you're somebody worthwhile. And that's going to come to building yourself as a man. And that comes to your physical abilities, your knowledge of the world, your ability to understand people. And that is a large scale of factors that come into forming yourself as an individual. And it's constant work. You're never going to be done. Are you keeping your dating life and the business side private? Are you dating any of the girls you're working with? I definitely like to keep that private. I have one woman who is extremely loyal to me in every way, shape, or form. Working in this industry, though, she understands that it's a little bit of a different dynamic for me, obviously. But, yeah, I'm not one of those guys who wants to have multiple relationships.

So you're not into open relationships? For me, no, I'm not into open relationships for for me no i'm not into open relationships um i i feel like uh i've seen some you know red pill commentators talk about how like oh yeah it's great being a man because you can have multiple relationships as long as those women don't have relationships themselves which yeah i yeah, I could kind of see their points. I get it in a way, uh, is for me though. Now I don't need multiple relationships. I'll have my fun with other women, but just one girl for me. I feel that, um, the red pill movement in general, like, how do you feel about that? I know you got invited on fresh and fit. What do you think of that whole movement? Uh, well, I don't like to associate

myself with the red pill movement, even though a lot of people may assume so just because of, um, what's put out online from my accounts. Uh, the red pill movement to me, like, yes, it has some good points. I think it does open up, uh, how men are disenfranchised in today's society. But from what I've seen from what red pill commentators is, they take it a little bit too far to the point where it becomes in a way, like negative towards women and it can hurt women in that aspect. So there are some good things that come out of it, but also bad. Yeah. I'm on the same page. I think people, they take it too far to get more views, but it's, it's a little too much sometimes. Yes. I've seen Yeah. I'm on the same page. I think people, they take it too far to get more views,

but it's, it's a little too much sometimes. Yes. I've seen that. Absolutely. I want to talk about your nonprofit you started. That's something I'm getting into next year. I'm excited about, um, doing some charity work. Uh, tell me about yours. Yeah. So my nonprofit is a veterans for humanity. And I started this, obviously I'm'm a veteran, a Marine veteran. And through all the negativity that I saw in the military with mental health problems, I've had multiple friends **** themselves. Didn't have any friends who died in combat, but I've had multiple friends **** themselves. And that's the biggest issue that we're dealing with in the military today is depression.

Almost every single guy that I know who's still active, including a lot of veterans, extremely depressed. Wow. And borderline, I'm constantly talking to friends that I served with, both veterans and active duty. And I needed to take a bigger step. And that's where I started this nonprofit and hoping to grow it into a large scale organization that can make a difference. Just not on a small scale like I've been doing, but on a large scale. Amazing, man.

I got a friend, Glenn Devitt. I'm going to introduce you guys. He's on a similar mission as you. Hundreds of a**holes in the military of his friends and people he knew. So I'm going to connect you guys. Hopefully you guys can save a lot of lives together. That would be great, man. Yeah. So when you left the military, were you in that state of mind as well? Super depressed? Yeah. So this actually stems back to my second divorce, still being active duty. And the and the things that you experience in the outside world,

like as a civilian, are amplified by 100 inside the military. So everything that I had to deal with in my divorce, the military would punish me 10 times over again, limiting your pay even though you're paying child support, limiting your ability to even though you're paying child support, limiting your ability to just simply travel about. It's extremely toxic. And that put me into a great, like deep state of depression that I eventually had to pull myself out of if I wanted to become successful and move on. So I got to experience that myself and some of my friends,

um, you know, the guys who themselves, they, they, they didn't get the opportunity to have that realization. Right. And that's where I'm trying to step in is to be able to give these guys who are experiencing the hardship that comes from the military, uh, and give them another chance to be able to grow and come out of that. And you've saved over a hundred lives so far, right? I'd have to count, but maybe like over 150 at this point. Wow. And that's people actually texting you like you saved my life? Not necessarily texting me, you saved my life, but you can tell. Right. Like I've been around enough guys who were depressed

borderline guys who have stuck the gun in their mouths and not pulled the trigger it's not necessarily me talking them off the bridge but it's that constant coaching and saying hey i'm there for you call me that is what saves lives that's incredible and are you still talking to um those two ex-wives you mentioned earlier? No, absolutely. So you don't believe in, uh, some people are friends with their ex. Like, Oh yeah. I would have no problem being civil and respectable to these ex-wives of mine, but, uh, they, they're not able to return the same. So I have to keep a great divide between myself and them just to avoid the toxicity. If they're better people, then absolutely. I'd love to be friends

with them, be cordial, but I have to keep those barriers. Interesting. It gets tricky with kids, I think. Yeah, it does. Especially with kids. That is the worst one. For some reason, a lot of women want to have the kids all to themselves, which is the case in my circumstances. But, you know, it is what it is. I think it's still an opportunity for me to be able to grow more as an individual since I don't have that time with my children. Yeah. So at the end of the day, it is a positive thing, even though some people may think not seeing your kids often is one of the worst things in the world. I'm able to find the silver lining. That's cool. Yeah. That would destroy a lot of guys for sure. If they couldn't see their kids. 100%. It still affects me every single day. Wow. I'll lie awake at night realizing I don't get to see my children, but then I think about the greater picture and how I'm building an empire for them to inherit one day. Wow. So you're going to give your kids everything, even though you barely see them?

I'm not just going to give them everything. I'm going to teach them and be able to hand them over what I'm able to achieve in my young life now when they're adults. And they're going to be just as competent and capable and be able to grow it into something even greater. Wow. That's cool, man. It sounds like you have a good sense of purpose in your life. I think people struggle to find that, especially after they retire from the military. Oh, 100%.

Veterans all the time. They have, it's so sad that that's why it's so high because when you are serving, like it's easy to see that you're serving a greater picture. You know, you're wearing the uniform, you're thanked for your service by everyone around you. But then once you leave and get out, people are like, what do I do with my life? Right. Yeah. They need to, do you think they should develop more programs for people that get out and mental health stuff around it? I would say the private industry needs to develop more programs. There's endless government funded programs, but I don't really see those working out so well. Yeah. Like therapy

and stuff. Yeah. I mean, anything the government touches seems to turn to ash. If the private industry can step up, like what I'm trying to do with myself to help veterans, I think that's the best route to go. Yeah. Yeah. If there's like a hundred guys like you, I mean, I can really leave an impact, I think. Oh, 100%. Way better than any government agency could do. Yeah. Cause they just hand you money or send you to like a psychiatrist, psychologist, I think they're called or whatever. Psychiatrist. Yeah. Whatever. Yeah. I mean, you've heard the issues with the VA. It seemed like Trump tried to make that issue better, but it never fully got resolved. Yeah, that's a great example right there of how the government lets down our veterans. Yeah, it's a shame, man. I

remember donating to WWF, I think, and I was like, wow, this probably didn't even go to the veterans. Right. I always have an issue with- The big charities. Yeah, yeah the big charities you just never know where their money's going most of the time like that money's going to the paychecks yeah yeah i saw like red cross they kept like 92 on one of them i was like what the hell something crazy they call them non-profits but they're very profitable businesses for a lot of these major ones and they're saving on both sides because the tax side too oh of course it's just all about money at the end of the day it's crazy but dude it's been a great episode anything you want to close off with or promote um no man i appreciate you having me on your show and taking the time yeah thanks for coming on man great meeting you

thanks for watching guys as always i'll see you tomorrow