Digital Social Hour - Secrets to Instagram Success and Multimillion Dollar Deals | Alex Moeller Digital Social Hour #42

Episode Date: July 6, 2023

Hey there, podcast enthusiasts! We've got an extraordinary episode lined up on the Digital Social Hour this week. We're getting up-close and personal with the Instagram sensation, Alex Moeller - a man who started from scratch and skyrocketed his followers into millions, revealing secret growth strategies that turned into gold! Hear jaw-dropping moments shared on air, like his incredible journey of spending a million dollars in under 24 hours, right here in New York City. A wild birthday adventure or a significant life-lesson, you decide! Wait...it gets better, folks. Alex shares his humbling journey from small-town Ecuador to achieving the much-coveted American dream, proving no matter where you rise from, the sky's the limit! Get ready to get SHOOK as we dive deeper into his life adventures, from helicopter landings on helipads of luxury Dubai hotels right down to business epiphanies that brought millions together. That's right, Alex's story is more than just influencers and exclusive watches; it's about effective partnerships, navigating complex government programs, accruing millions in relief funds for struggling businesses while scoring mega-deals from a simple DM! Managing money. Building lasting relationships. Tackling fake followers, controversy and haters. From changing personal values to future plans for more privacy - Alex's road to success is a wild ride you don't want to miss! So friends, buckle-up and join us for this unforgettable ride only on the Digital Social Hour. We'll see you there! --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/digitalsocialhour/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

You also spent a million dollars in under 24 hours in New York City. How did you pull that off? Yeah, that was an asshole move. Posting the big money. Now it's scary. People want to do harm. Oh yeah. All those big crypto guys, they got people after them.

Four of them ended up dead last year. Oh my god. All right, welcome back to the Digital Social Hour, guys. I'm your host, Sean Kelly. I'm joined today with my guest, Alex Moeller. How we doing? What's going on, man? Good to see you, man. You too, bro.

I've been seeing you all over social media. We've known each other for a year and we're finally meeting. Yeah, first time we're meeting. I've seen you for like five years now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's you, man. You too, bro. I've been seeing you all over social media. We've known each other for a year and we're finally meeting. Yeah. First time we're meeting. I've seen you for like five years now. Yeah. Yeah. It's incredible, dude.

I know I saw you back, I think, when you had a couple million followers and all of a sudden you're like at eight million. I'm like, what just happened? Well, that's partially thanks to you. So we'll dive into that. How did you get started, man? Yeah, man. So it's kind of cool.

I always like to tell my story about I don't have the traditional entrepreneur story where I was dead broke or living on a friend's couch. And I'm always very honest of like how I was brought up and grew up and had an incredible family and even some luxuries. But the reality is that, you know, back in 2017 was just in my comfort zone, right? Living the Miami lifestyle was going out a lot, was partying a lot. And it was just a very destructive lifestyle. And I kind of told myself, I've got to do something about it. And that was when Instagram really started picking up. And that's kind of gave me the motivation, just seeing the big entrepreneurs like Grant and Ty Lopez and Gary V. I'm like, what's the one thing they all have in common? And it was, they all had Instagram followers. So kind of just clicked and started the Instagram journey. And

here we are, man. Absolutely. Yes. You were able to help people grow millions of followers. How did you pull that off? Yeah. So, you know, it started, like I mentioned with, with my own account. Um, I was like, how do I grow on Instagram, YouTube, Googling, how do I grow on Instagram? And I found a strategy where I'd stay up until 3 in the morning. I'd follow 500 people. I'd literally sit there, wait for them to follow me back, and then I'd unfollow them, which was kind of an asshole move, but it started to work. That's how I started, too.

Yeah, it started to work. I'd just go on hashtag entrepreneur, follow everyone, unfollow them the day. And I just went crazy, man. I wouldn't sleep. I'd wake up at 3 in the morning, follow, follow, follow. And it just started working for me, man. I started to realize I didn't know why I was doing it. I had no idea why I was growing the followers. I didn't have a major plan, but I was like, if all these big entrepreneurs have followers, like, why don't I, maybe that's the secret to the success. And it worked for me, man. People started reaching out to

me. They're like, Alex, how'd you get 2000 followers? How'd you get 3000 followers? And that's where my little Instagram consulting company was born. There was a girl from Columbia that reached out to me. She's like, Alex, how much do you charge? I'm like, for what? She's like, for, for the growth, for the followers I've seen you grow. And it just kind of clicked for me that like that very day I ran home, I made a presentation. It took me like two hours just to make a damn PowerPoint presentation. And I told her it's, you know, $99 a month. I think it was like $199 or $99, but she paid me for two months. And then it clicked for me. I was like, holy shit. Imagine if I could sell a hundred people,

a thousand people. I quit my nine to five that very day and started this instagram consulting company which then just kind of blew up man dude that shit blew up you were the biggest you were making millions off that stuff man we it's not only the biggest like we were the very first like i got a big shout out for my business partner chris frederick who i know you have a relationship with but you know because i was doing the follow and follow stuff like we even created a software my buddy calls me and he's like alex I think I could code a software that could automatically do that. Because even for this Colombian girl, I'm having to do the follow-on-follow and the consulting for $99 a month. It was great back then, but it was a lot of work.

It wasn't scalable. A buddy calls me. He's like, Alex, I've seen a couple softwares start to come out. I could pretty much copy those softwares and we'll have our own software. And that's really when I started to grow. Cause now I have this automated software basically didn't cost me anything because my buddy made me, made it for me charging 99 to $199 a month.

Now I've got hundreds of clients and my overhead is nearly zero. It's my time. Right. Right. So that's when it really started growing. But then Instagram shut down the software i think we literally broke instagram because imagine a thousand accounts liking thousands of pictures a minute and then that's when i met chris frederick and he's like alex have you ever heard of the instagram giveaway he's like i created this model where instead of

growing up 100 followers in a day you can grow 20 000,000 followers in two days. And I was like, get out of here. That's, that's a lie. It's not possible. Yeah. And he's like, dude,

trust me, I'll do it for your account. And I thought, you know, I thought he was going to rob me. I thought he was going to scam me. Sure enough, within two days,

my account grows 20,000 followers, all real people, not targeted entrepreneurs, but real people that clicked follow on my page. And I was like, bro, what did you just do? Like my top clients are growing a thousand followers a month and they love me.

Now I can offer them a way to grow 20,000 followers. This is it, bro. We struck gold. So I partnered with him and that's when I first started making my first $1,000 days. You know, 5,000 and it was just, it just blew up from there. Those were the days, man. The days, bro. Such an adrenaline rush waking up.

And some days you'd have 100,000 new followers. Well, that's the thing, dude. Like when we'd sell this, people would just come back because you get addicted to it. Yeah. Right. It's kind of scary and crazy in a way because people would grow to 10,000 followers. They'd get this validation from everybody in their circle of like, wow, you're famous now. Like, how'd you get there? Now they're like, I want more. I want more. I want more.

And not to mention, those are the small clients, like some of our bigger, massive entrepreneurs, like just about anybody that has a million followers on Instagram. Basically, we grew. they'd be in a competition with one another. So we'd get this massive entrepreneur and I'm not going to say any names, but there's a couple of specific ones get to a million. Then this one's like, I need to get to a million. I need to get to 2 million. And they started paying us hundreds of thousands of dollars to grow followers on Instagram. Dude, it's crazy. I know someone you guys grew to like over 10 million. Yeah. It's insane. Yeah. I mean, like we pretty much grew almost everyone, right? I'd like to say that if there's a big entrepreneur with a couple million followers, somehow, some way, you know,

we had some sort of say in how they grew. I mean, obviously we're not the reason for their success. Some of these guys are massively successful, but the thing with Instagram is that every single year, as you know, they change their algorithm. It keeps changing and changing and it becomes almost impossible to grow on the platform unless you use these strategies. And then of course, we got the haters of like, oh, you guys are buying fake followers or you guys are, you know, this is ridiculous. Why would I invest in my account? And it's like, why would I invest in a billboard here in Miami? Yeah. Is that stupid? No, I'm getting my name out there. You know, I want people to see that I'm the best and it's social credibility when they see that blue check,

which now got destroyed, but they saw that blue check. They saw the 10,000 followers. They said, I want to work with that person. I believe in what that person is selling or telling me. Yeah, as silly as it sounds, just having followers has led to so many business deals for me. I mean, it's every business deal I've ever done has come from my Instagram. All my podcast guests, all my deals, Instagram. It's just building relationships.

People think that followers are just to feel good or to be famous, but it leads to like you and I, like this is our first time literally meeting, but how long have we been connected? How long have we known about each other? Right. And you just kind of keep up with each other. And maybe we hadn't done too much business in the past, but now all of a sudden there's an opportunity. It's like, Hey, let's work on it. Like yesterday, I connected with the guy that it's a deal that's going to make me probably four or $500,000 with five minutes of time. But he was somebody that I connected with back in 2017.

One of those people that I clicked follow on, he messaged me and we connected. We built a relationship and then didn't talk for four years, bro. Guy comes back, hits me up, says, hey, Alex, I've got this company. I can work with you on this. Let's do it. Four or five hundred thousand dollar deal. All because I took the time to build a relationship with him back in 2017. If this was a real world and I met him at a networking event and social media didn't exist, that guy would be gone.

If I didn't email him, if I didn't meet with him every single day. No, this guy was a 20 minute phone conversation. He followed my journey on Instagram. Now he comes back. We're making half a million dollars together. Amazing. So from the giveaway company, you got into ERC, right? Yeah. I mean, not just ERC, like we built such a massive network of friends and business partners and just constant different deals, right? From ERC to e-commerce to real estate to just about everything, right? Because you meet the right people on social media and they have deals and now you have all these relationships like, hey, let's partner. But yeah, I'd say obviously the biggest one that you know is ERC.

It's ridiculous. I mean, I've seen the numbers you're making. Can you first explain what ERC is? Yeah. So ERC was one of two government programs, right? There was the PPP and ERC. This is during COVID. And essentially back during COVID, all the businesses ended up, I mean, 95% of businesses got PPP, which is incredible. Of course, some business did it the wrong way. Some businesses, you know, didn't apply correctly and now we're in trouble, but it was a real program. It was the government's way of helping people that were stuck or in trouble because of the pandemic, literally. Right. So back during Trump administration, it was either, or you could either get the PPP loan or ERC, but since the PPP was so readily available, everyone got PPP. Everybody put ERC aside and now they weren't eligible because they got PPP. A major amendment

that happened was that President Biden said, hey, if you got PPP, you are still now eligible to get ERC. And not many people know. It's just like most of the laws they passed. They're not educating the American business owner on how to do it. It not easy it's kind of like filing your taxes like do you really want to file your own taxes or do you want to trust an expert that knows what they're doing and knows every law and regulation so you know that's exactly what we did we partnered with a firm that's been doing government grants for the last 15 years. So they're not one of these pop-up firms that are saying, oh, we know how to do ERC. And they were a solar company a month before that, right? Like Josh Fox, who I'm sure you're going to interview here soon, he's been doing this for 15 years and working with the top 500 companies in the nation, Uber and

Rolex, AP, Miami Heat, the Lakers, you name it. But then all of a sudden this major change happened and he pivoted and started doing ERC. So I met with him and he said, hey, Alex, if you have a lot of relationships, if you know a lot of business owners, why don't we collaborate? Why don't we work together? And basically you bring people to the table and we all all make money we help business owners claim what's rightfully theirs yeah how much money did you help business owners claim so me personally um we're about seven seven hundred million jeez in in a in seven eight months that we've been taking this seriously but now we're averaging probably close to 200 million a month crazy um it's the most

rewarding thing ever, bro. Like waking up and getting a text from a business owner that's saying, Alex, we just qualified for, cause you have to qualify. This isn't just every business, single business owner. Like you got to qualify there, you know, certain, you know, changes in operations and revenue, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. You know, bottom line handles this instead of the experts, but being able to help business owners claim what's rightfully theirs has been the most rewarding thing. We don't charge them anything, bro. Like I'll refer a friend of mine, very first deal I ever referred. It was a friend of mine who had 470 employees. We ended up getting him multiple millions of dollars. And he calls me like almost in tears. He's like, Alex, you saved my, you saved my business. We were in deep trouble. And because of this, now I can continue to operate. I can pay my employees better. I can

give them bonuses. And he didn't pay a dime until he had the money in his hands. So there's also zero risk on my end of referring the business owner, right? Because other firms are charging upfront fees or hourly fees, which is fine. It's their business model. But if I were to refer a business and they have a bad experience and they paid money, guess who's in trouble? I am, right? I look bad. But since I'm referring them and they're not paying a dime until they have the money in their bank account, it's a win-win for everybody. Yeah, that's so powerful. And you were just basically able to scale that to 700 million from your network? 100% my network did. It's funny because people always say like, how do you know so many businesses?

And I don't. Obviously, the first post I made on Instagram, I said, hey, which one of my followers has the biggest business? I kind of played with people's egos and everybody's like, Oh, I've got 50, 70, a hundred, 500, whatever. And I definitely got a lot of businesses, but if you can build a relationship, you can build a business. And that's the mentality. I went into this where I just started reaching out to everyone in my network, like including you who are involved. It wasn't me directly telling you, but it was through a business partner that told you. So it just kind of spreads like wildfire when you build all these high level relationships and you start to make those phone calls and then they start to network with people. Or for example, the business that we got millions of dollars, like, Hey, why don't you refer me some of your friends that have businesses? And it just starts to snowball and snowball and snowball, but

we're all in, right? There's other entrepreneurs that are doing this that are like, oh, but Alex, how are you, you know, helping so many businesses or how are you having that success? I, you know, I did it for a month and I didn't get paid right away. So I kind of, no, we dropped everything, bro, a hundred percent and went all in with this opportunity. And that's why I feel like we're having these results. Yeah. That's incredible. How did you build a relationship with Steve will do it? Cause I feel like everyone and their mom is trying to be friends with that guy. Dude, it was, it was funny, man. I, uh, I saw how big he was getting. And what year was this? So this was recent, man. This was just last year. Um, well,

beginning of the year, I started seeing like I'm a big person. Like what I want to do with all my money, dude, is I want to give it away. I love gifting people things. I love giving away money, seeing the person's reaction. And Steve will do it was literally that one person, which if you watch his videos, all he does is give, give, give, give, gives cars. I think he's given away like 60, 70 cars. So it's really motivating to me so i was like i've never seen anybody give back to steve so i sent him a dm again instagram yeah and i was like hey brother i just purchased a jet i would like you you know

you can use it whenever you want pretty much i was like tell me when you want to use it jets on me didn't respond and i was like you know what whatever you know i'd go back and i'd like the what i sent them you know the strategy right it bumps it back up in their dm right like it again or like resend it whatever but i did that for a couple months and then i wake up one morning it's a friday remember like it's yesterday he's like he's like wi-fi you serious like not even like hi like he's really funny he's like you serious i'm like yeah i'm dead serious he's i'm like when do you need it he's like tomorrow morning he's so last minute so you know i have my pilots but we're also chartering our jet so the jet was like in detroit or something so having to cancel all the charters pay my pilots extra i'm like you need to

fly back tonight pick steve will do it up and his friends fly him to new york wait for him as long as he wants i'll pay your hotels everything and then fly him back so i did that took him to the ufc fight flew him back i didn't expect anything in return like i genuinely i told him like he's like what do you want want me to pay you shout you out i was like nothing dude you do so much for so many people i want to take care of you course, he shouted me out and he was like, oh, Alex, whatever. Why if I have money? And that's literally how I landed this ERC deal. Someone saw me on his channel, reached out to me, told me, Alex, I want to introduce you to Josh Fox. Met Josh Fox eight figures later because I'm a big believer in money's energy. And so many people spend money or give money away with expecting a return,

expecting what am I going to get back to where this was a time where I literally just said, take it. It's not cheap, dude. It cost me because then 6ix9ine used it. Steve will do it, used it twice. The Nelk boys used it twice. It's like $100,000 and $150,000 in expenses. And you clump cost all of that

all of it dude wow i'm talking paying the pilots paying the fuel paying i even bought them ten thousand dollars worth of lv i was waiting for them on the plane when they got on like i did like an experience for them because i was like this guy is like he does this for everyone why can't i do it for him and the universe god, God, whatever you believe in, you know, rewarded me and got me this business opportunity that now makes, you know, tens of millions of dollars. That's insane. What role does money play in your life? It's, you know, we talk about this a lot.

It's funny because one of my mentors once told me and he was like, Alex, because I asked him, I'm like, what level do you like? How much money do you have to make to like truly be happy? Like this was when I was young and kind of immature and I viewed money as like everything. He was like, Alex, no amount of money is going to change how happy you are. In fact, the more money you make, the more sophisticated your problems are going to get. Money doesn't solve problems. So forever, whoever watching this, if you really think that

money is going to solve your problems, it's not. It's just going to make your problems more sophisticated. You have to find happiness elsewhere, right? And the more money I've made, the more like, oh, now I need a trust structure. Now I need estate planning for my family. Now I need this. I need that. Every single day calls with lawyers and it's it's intense dude right it doesn't quote unquote make me happier what makes me happier and what role does it play is being able to give back like being able to retire my mom and my dad and give back to my family and you know take them on vacations and see their happiness that makes me happy because now i know that all the work i'm doing, all the,

you know, tough times that I'm going through is paying off and I feel rewarded. Right. So money's more a tool to, to have freedom, to be able to, you know, my, my brand wifi money really is about being able to travel the world and do whatever you want and, and still make money because you can, you can make a billion dollars, but if you're in the office every single day miserable, it's not worth it. What's the point? Yeah, there's only so much money you could actually spend too.

Yeah, I mean, the more money you make, the more you spend too. You had humble beginnings in Ecuador, right? What was it like growing up there? So yeah, it's kind of cool you asked that. Not many people know that I'm from Quito, Ecuador. I was born and raised there. Um, again, by, by no means, I always share this with people. Did I grow up in a bad neighborhood or was from nothing? You know, my, my dad worked really hard and gave

me a good life, right? I kind of took it all for granted back in 2017. And that's why I started my business. But growing in Ecuador is it's very different right the culture is different the food's different the people are different and and then this is nothing bad about ecuador but the mindset's also different right it's it's tough there's not much entrepreneurship over there right you don't have this for podcasts and let's you did an awesome networking event the other day i mean maybe now a little bit more, I haven't been there in a while, but there's a different mentality over there. The mentality over there is the 9 to 5. I have to work.

I have to get a job. And I have to sacrifice till 8 p.m. and then come back to my family and see my daughter for 30 minutes and go to sleep and back to work. And it's fine if you're happy doing that. But obviously, you move here. I remember when I was little and I'd come to America for like a week or two and you'd go to Walmart and Target. Like maybe people that live here, they take that for granted. But I remember as a kid, I'd walk in there and I'd be like, what is this paradise? You don't have that. There's not this consumer, like people are consuming, consuming, consuming, like they do in the US, which brings opportunity. right so very different i'm happy i grew there because

i see a different style of culture and life and um it's also very family oriented over there so i'm very close to my family that's cool but obviously moving here i moved here when i was 12 13 so i'm americanized right but i still went back a lot for business to ecuador but the american dream is is real like it's kind of cheesy to say it it is because you know that's literally like for example what we're doing with the rc like that's america dude where else what other country do you see business owners being able to get 10 20 000 per employee no in ecuador dude when you fire in from your company you have to pay him I believe it's three or four years salary let's just be it to be able to fire them

whoa so nobody fires anybody and that's why companies don't really grow because you're in America you fuck up once it's like you're done pack your shit get out yeah like in Ecuador is like should i fire them i'd gotta have to pay them three four years of salary if i do so you see these companies where the same lady's been working there for 30 40 years and sometimes it's good but also bad because that doesn't allow your businesses to grow so that's why things in america business and the way people consume and buy it's just so different, man. That's insane. What was it like staying in a seven-star hotel? Because I didn't even know those existed.

It's crazy, man. It definitely is. It's the one in Dubai. It's one of my favorite hotels, but I kind of took it to the next level because I called in and I know they have the tallest helipad, I believe, in the world. It's one of the tallest in the world it's it's in the sale it's like right off the sale if you've ever seen it and every time i travel i try to go above and beyond with experiences like that's the one thing that money can buy that makes me really happy is experiences like anybody can go and pay a grand two grand three grand to go stay in this hotel right but how many people can say that they've landed in a helicopter so i called in and i was like you like my travel i was like you need my travel agent like you need to make this happen like you have to get me to land on the helicopter like i'm not going to the hotel if i don't land

in the helicopter and it was tough because apparently they don't like at least now they only allow like the sheiks and really high level people to land but wow i paid an obscene amount of money the the helicopter picked me up from the airport flew around dubai and then landing and i have a video on my instagram landing it really is one of the top experiences of my life because my girl was with me she's like oh my god look at that hotel that looks like a sale yeah i'm like yeah we should go there one day and then the helicopter turns around and just goes like james bond style lands on the helipad had a team of like 50 people waiting for me with like massive roses and flowers and food champagne wow red carpet like those experiences are next level so that's the difference between like a seven star quote-unquote to a five four three star hotel where you can do these types

of experiences that, I mean, you really can't do anywhere else in the world. That sounds insane. How was it in Dubai? It's awesome, man. I love Dubai. I really consider sometimes like, should I spend more time there, live there? You know, a lot of people talk about the tax stuff. I don't really care about that, but it's just, it's crazy. The first time I went there, it was almost like I got like a culture shock, right? Because you see a completely different religion. And then you go to the mall and everybody's wearing the, similar to this, like the kind of long, they're called, I think, kanduras.

Everybody's wearing them. And back then, it was a while while ago the women were sitting with the women the men were sitting with the men right they did not mix at the restaurants wow but then you walk out and you see 50 like no joke 50 white they're all white ferraris just parked there and then these guys go they grab their girl they pull in their ferraris and then the back their license plate will have a number saying how important you are. So the lower the number on your license plate, the more, like, I guess, Royal or important. So one time I saw like a seven, they're like, Oh, that guy's a billionaire chic. You know, and then there's like 10,500. It's like, Oh, that's a

taxi driver. But it really like they rank how important you are based on your license plate. That's interesting. Uh, you also spent a million dollars in under 24 hours in New York City. How did you pull that off? Yeah, that was an asshole move. It was my 30th birthday. Business was really growing. I had just gotten the jet a few months back. And I told my business partner, I was you know i was launching my youtube wi-fi

money i'm like we got to do something crazy right and and i'm like let's go to new york and it wasn't planned like let's go and spend a million dollars and throw it away but you know i had i had gone in this watch which is one of 100 it's like you know 250 okay we were going to order and buy a custom it's like a really it's called atelier a ferrari where you go custom make a ferrari at the new york okay ferrari like you can put your instagram like every single color like you can do whatever you want to the ferrari so we were ordering it was like a 650 000 ferrari so just with those two things you're already at like 800 right right then i ended up buying a rolex for Rolex for every single person that came with me.

Like my dad got one, my brother, a couple of business partners. We went to LV, spent a good amount, the restaurants, hotels. And then I was sitting there like, dude, I'm pretty sure we spent a million dollars today. Like what the hell is wrong with us? Oh, so you didn't even plan it? Like it wasn't, no. It wasn't like, let's go to New York and spend a million. But at the end of the night, we all kind of did the numbers like, dude, we spent a million today. And then my

videographer goes, that's it. That's the first or second YouTube video, how we spent a million dollars in New York. And to this day, it's one of my favorite videos. And I just, I do that stuff not to show off, but to really show people how far you can get in a short period of time, like 2017, I'm working a nine to five. I'm making maybe $3,500, $4,000 a month, which was great to me back then. That's why I was in my comfort zone to all of a sudden being able to spend a million dollars or invest. I mean, this watch is already up 50%. The car is up 30%, 40%. So we invest the money.

It's not like we threw it away. But I post that kind of stuff to show people what they can accomplish if they work hard. That's awesome. You mentioned you buy designer clothing. Why do you feel the need to do that? Because I see some people hate on it. I don't anymore, dude. I did a lot in the beginning.

Like, this shirt is like $3,000 and it it's ridiculous dude like now i like to be comfortable like i i really like i wear sweatpants i don't think i've worn a pair of jeans in two years it's just i don't like them they're uncomfortable so now for me it's more about comfort right in the beginning it was more about building a brand right right people i got a lot of haters a lot of people like you know even like childhood friends and family friends or family members that are like alex you've changed i'm like why have i changed i haven't seen you in a year we haven't had a conversation no like oh no i see what you post on instagram and all the designer clothes and the cars and the jets you're just a different person they they view that as like you changed for the worst. I don't know why,

but they do. But for me, it was all about building a brand because what's more exciting? Does someone want to see me talk, you know, like, Hey, give a tip of entrepreneurship. Like guys, this is how you're going to grow your Instagram. Or I just spent a million dollars in New York. It just attracts more people, more eyeballs. And then I share the value. And that's how I land clients. But you meet me in person. And I like to think I'm a humble guy.

I come from an incredible family. My family's absolutely everything to me. That's the whole reason I work. That's my why in everything, right? I just became an uncle. Now I have my niece who's just, she's beautiful. And seeing her like it makes me want to go harder right but the designer the watches the jet the cars it's just all branding

bro right and like you know you see dan bilzerian i've never personally met him maybe you have but i've heard he's such a nice guy yeah but then you go on his instagram and you're like oh that guy's the worst all the girls the sex blah blah. He's just creating a brand. Everybody has to create a brand if you want to get attention. Agreed. Some of the biggest people built their brand off just controversy and attention. Yeah. How do you deal with all the haters on social media?

Do you let it get to you mentally? I mean, I have in the past, especially in the beginning, it would really get to me because I you know I've I've always just wanted the best for people when my clients and the people I've worked with like and especially when you charge people like this would happen a lot with the Instagram stuff like if someone would pay me like 1500 bucks to grow their account and then they'd come back I'd wake up to a text or like the word scam right and I'd be like oh my god like my heart would sink and because i genuinely care about people and then it's like you scam me the followers are fake they just didn't understand the strategy they thought that it was going to be 10 000 targeted entrepreneur rich people following

them and they're getting followers from latin america from a viral giveaway or from you know even kim kardashian right and those messages were hurt me because now i'm like did i do something wrong like but as you grow in business you become a little stronger to realize like as long as you're you're really giving it your all you're you're giving the best possible service you're communicating with people um like yeah i don't know if you saw my instagram yesterday i posted i was wearing the dior glasses and the guy's like, I have to unfollow you. Those are the gayest glasses I've ever. He's like, those are the gayest glasses I've ever seen. He's like, I trade SPY in the stock market

and I could buy your life. And I literally, I literally like, it made my day because I was like, wow, that was creative. Like that was funny. So I screenshot it, I posted it and everybody's like, ha ha ha, that's awesome. So now it's more funny.

Like you reach a level before where I was just kind of like scared. But once you reach a certain level of success, like Google any of those guys, Tai Lopez, Grant Cardone, Gary Vee, they're going to have bad articles about them. They're going to have people bashing them. Why? Because they're just a public figure. Now, do I want to continue down that road and become this massive public figure? No. When ERC is done and I've made a couple hundred million, I'm probably going to delete

my Instagram. Really? Yeah. I just don't. Off the map, bro. Whoa. It was my purpose. I reached my purpose. I impacted people. I helped people. And I just don't care for people to know my business anymore. Every single day, I'm becoming more private. so people have about two more years to enjoy wi-fi money and all the craziness i do and i'm probably going to go off the the i'm not i mean maybe i'm exaggerating on deleting it but maybe make it private yeah or just make it more for my personal friends because obviously you start posting the the big money now now it's scary right now you can people people want to do harm oh yeah all those big crypto guys they got people after them four of them ended up dead last year oh my god dude like and you know maybe

some of them do scam maybe some of them do bad things like i don't i come from a good family like the last thing i want is for my girl to be in trouble or my mom my family it's it's shitty but that's just how people are you know they see your success and they're like how can i take that success away? Oh, yeah, it definitely makes you a target. It's a double-edged sword. Do you think you'll retire completely from business after UFC or you're going to keep going?

I think it's impossible to fully retire. I'm going to retire in the sense where I'm going to reach a number invested to where my kids, my kids' kids, and my kids' kids' kids never have to work again, right? Or at least they're going to be set up. But I'm just going to focus on things that I personally enjoy, right? This ERC thing has been a blessing because again, we've got what, 35,000 affiliates that reach out to me every single day telling me, Alex, thank you, man. I just like a teacher in tears who made $50,000 her first week with us. And she was crying saying,

I made $30,000 a year on my nine to five. So in some way, shape or form, I want to continue helping people because it's so rewarding. I want to, we're working on something big in real estate, which we're going to launch pretty soon. So that's another kind of, I call it passion project that we have that I want to grow. But as far as like dealing Instagram followers and social media and intensely networking, like, dude, the one thing I love in life is travel. So I just want to travel seven, eight months of the year. I've been to 94, 95 countries. So I want to see hopefully the rest of the world. There's this Antarctica trip that I want to do

where you land on a Gulf stream in Antarctica. So that's a trip I've been on. Yeah. So right now I can't do that just because I'm so incredibly busy, but sooner or later. That's sick, man. Let's end it on that note. so you've been in 95 countries what's your top five top five wow that's a tough question doesn't have to be in order yeah but the very first ones that come to mind is paris like france in itself right but paris is is an incredible city man like i've been there five times in the last two years. The hotels are insane. The atmosphere, just how you feel. People everywhere just sitting in little cafes, having drinks.

The culture there is incredible. Italy, right? You got to go with Italy. Same, the food. You go to North Italy, it's different than South Italy. You go to Capri, you go to islands. It's incredible. Greece.

I love Greece. Greece, bro. The food. The food, again, but you can't go wrong with the views, the hotels. Again, it's different. At least in Santorini, you're not in highways, cars. You're walking everywhere. It's a different type.

That was actually a trip I did. I did Paris, I did um greece and then egypt egypt is probably number one for me whoa that from like experience wise like when you go to the pyramids it's the craziest thing you've ever seen like i would i would stand in front of the pyramid i look up i'd look to the right left and you can't see the end of the pyramid like it's that big and then you think like how how the hell was this built yeah so many years ago right so and then you're driving like on a highway right what they call a highway and there's like a camel crossing and horses and people just playing cards like drinking like it's it's crazy dude it's it's

kind of like a culture shock like i mentioned and then also like the you know i just went to singapore is it's just next level i say singapore and dubai are probably the last two but singapore because you have more of like an asia you know asian feel rather than dubai um and i was just there and it's just again the buildings uh the everything the infrastructure is insane, bro. That's a solid list, bro. Can't argue anything on that. Where can people find you and do you have any closing thoughts? Yeah, I mean, social media, Instagram.

If you look up Wi-Fi money on Instagram, I'll come up. Probably one of the only Wi-Fi money verified. It's ameller is actually my handle, but look it up as wi-fi money or wi-fi money on on youtube and if you have not looked into working with sean or myself on this erc program you're missing out it's it's completely free i don't know if you've ever had a free offer before i've never had a free offer ever this is completely free and it can pay high ticket commissions. I've never in my life seen something like this ever, right? Where you can make 50, a hundred, $200,000 by referring people, by helping people, helping other affiliates, helping business owners. So do yourself a favor,

reach out to Sean, reach out to me, let's work together and let's crush it bro absolutely yeah shout out to bottom line i'll put my affiliate link in the description here dude it's been a pleasure thanks for coming on digital social hour i'll see you guys next week