Digital Social Hour - Serving in the Military & Recovering from PTSD I Robert Oberhofer DSH #366

Episode Date: March 22, 2024

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A young man in high school at the time who was directly impacted by 9-11, it was easy to instill hate and agenda into my mind. I was the perfect soldier because I was so blind. What are they going to think about me? I'm going to die in a country fighting for something I don't even understand, in a country that means nothing for me. Wherever you guys are watching this show, I would truly appreciate it if you follow or subscribe.

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I'm good, man. Thanks for having me. It's good to see you. Absolutely. It's been a lot going on in the studio today. Yeah, a lot. Had someone just drinking their own piss before you, but we'll see if you could top it. Yeah, I'm still trying to come down from the high of watching a stranger drink someone else's urine out of a wine glass. Yeah. You've had quite the life though, man. I know your dad was in the military, right? So you got raised in that environment um he was in the military uh when he was younger and then he got out and because of his military

service he got the police job in new york city yeah which a lot of guys do a lot of military going to the police yeah i noticed that why do you think that is i think it's just an easy transition um the environment is much different but it's also very similar. Like the team environment, there's a ranking system and, you know, you're trained as well. So you're used to being around some hardships, you know? Yeah. You made that transition too, right? You were in the military, then you became an officer. Yeah. When I first got out of, I was military police. My dad was as well. That's why I wanted to go into the police force. Cause I was an MP to see my dad grow up and like like, go into the softball games. And people think cops.

Like, my dad and his crew back in, like, the late 80s and 90s, like, if there were social media like there is today, these guys would all not have pensions. Like, they were more gangster than they were cops in, you know, North Jersey back in the 80s and 90s. But I grew up around those guys. It was my family, softball games, birthdays, barbecues, parties. And I just enjoyed seeing that camaraderie, and I wanted that. And then obviously 9-11 came, and I'm sure we'll get into that. But yeah, I went into the police a few years after I got out of the Army. Wow. So do you remember 9-11 like a vivid memory?

Yeah. So in high school, I got out of the army. Wow. So do you remember 9-11 like a vivid memory? Yeah. So I was in high school. I was a sophomore. Yeah. And my dad is a retired Port Authority police. They are like the bridges of the airports, and they do emergency services, which is kind of like an emergency services truck

has a team of almost like what firemen do. So the ESU, Emergency Services services unit is the guys that have the jaws of life and they'll pull people out of cars and like if there's a guy that's trying to jump off the gw bridge yeah they're the ones that go up and and kick them off the bridge you know yeah they're the special unit to to go to those type of things my dad always said and he and he fully believes this he always said if his team would have responded to Princess Diana's car crash, they would have saved her. Really? How so?

Just the people that did respond, it took almost an hour for them to get her out of the vehicle and he said they would have had her out within minutes and over to triage. Why did it take an hour? Was she stuck? I believe she was in a tunnel. I was young, my dad was a big she stuck? I believe she was in a tunnel. I was young.

My dad was a big fan of her and what she was about, which many people were. But she was in the car and they didn't have the tools. Like I just said, the jaws of life is basically a big pliers and it's what can open up and rip doors off.

But yeah, I always remember that. He said, if I was in uniform the day Prince Diana got in a car wreck, my guys, we would have saved their life. Wow. Have you ever had to use the Jaws of Life yourself? No, no. I've seen them be used. Mostly firemen do that.

When I was on patrol as an MP and with the DOD, we didn't carry that type of life-saving equipment. Yeah. But I have seen it in Germany germany with the polo's eye i've responded to a motorcycle that went you know those like work trucks like you'll see like a plumber in yeah work vans yeah yeah he went from the passenger side completely through the entire van and holy crap yeah it was just a complete uh mess that's. So what was it like in Germany? You were there for what? Nine years? No,

I was there. I got there in August of 2006 after bootcamp, bootcamp and AIT, which is my, you go to bootcamp for nine weeks, 10 weeks. And then you go to, I went to military police school,

which is your advanced individual training. Everybody goes to their MOS, their job specific school. After MP school, I went back to Jersey for a couple of weeks and like went to the Jersey shore. I thought I was hot. You know, I'm the army soldier now. I had like three or four grand in the bank. I thought I was a puff daddy. Good old Jersey shore. Yeah. Yeah. We went to Seaside and Belmar and Jenks and all that stuff. So ratchet. Yeah. Are you looking to start a new website? Look no further than Hostinger.

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But I'm sure Iraq was a whole different story. Yeah. And originally, I was. You see, I am the perfect. I was the perfect incubator to instill hate into being that my dad was in 9-11. And he lost his partner who worked his shift and 37 guys like on that shirt that i just brought you today uncles to me people i looked up to they died when the towers dropped so being a young man in high school at the time

who was directly impacted by 9-11 it was easy to instill hate and agenda into my mind so i was the perfect soldier because i was so blind so when i did join the military i was all for what i believe the war in iraq was fighting for democracy and our freedom in america which i know now is complete bs there's a quote from the movie uh Hours in Benghazi. He says, what are they going to think about me? I'm going to die in a country fighting for something I don't even understand. In a country that means nothing for me. Damn, that's deep. But you don't know it in the moment. No, I was just... When did you come to that realization was it after way after way after way i was 20 in iraq i'm 37 now i want to say the clarity came when i got sober five years ago and

started to like forgive myself a little bit and try to do some self-help and um not not hold it all in once i started to really seek what's going on inside of me as a war veteran who's dealt with homelessness and addiction and lost custody of kids and been to jail and i was just in that that that that cycle and i said i gotta really identify why i'm in this position and that's when i realized like oh i got hate i got pain got all this. And I just started unloading it. Wow. And then I figured, like, I love everybody now. So it's so chill, you know? You kept it bottled in for years.

It probably just started eating at you physically and mentally, right? Oh, my goodness. So many veterans deal with that as well. I didn't know who I was, especially when I got out of the military. A lot of soldiers. And that's why I'm soon hopefully going to start a community where I can kind of bring vets together for like a veteran mastermind type of deal.

That'd be sick. Because I, no offense to college educated people, I envy those people. Coming from Jersey, I had a lot of friends that went and got a degree at Rutgers or Hofstra. And I was like, man, I wish I had parents that had dinner every night on the table. And I wish my mom wasn't gone

and I could go get a college degree. But I was like in an apartment selling with Pitbull with a crazy girlfriend, like waiting to go to bootcamp with all these issues. And I always envied those people. But those are that, that type of person, the veteran community needs someone like myself, who's been through the jails, the institutions, the pain, the homelessness, the divorces, the loss of custody, because a college-educated professor who read a bunch of books, which is good, can't tell a vet who drinks himself to death every day and puts a gun in his mouth every night because he doesn't want to live anymore that they can help him because they don't understand it.

Yeah, the psychology professors you're talking about. Yeah, or anybody. I feel like let's like, you ever like a gynecologist telling a, like a male gynecologist, I've seen it in person telling a woman, you're going to feel pressure today. It's like,

how do you know? Yeah. You know? So I think for me, I want to be a pillar to the veteran community and I want to help bridge the gap between like the, the 22 vets a day that are taking their life and the guys that are on the streets homeless and addicted

and figure out what it is and take it further than anyone's taking it. So when you came back from serving, you were homeless for a little bit? No, I was homeless years later. When I first came back, I went back to Jersey to my dad's. He had a big house in Jackson right outside of Freehold. And I was with a moving company for a little while and i was trying to find myself again i was a broker for insurance um and i was just like lost and i worked at fort dix as a contractor i worked with some navy seals

and rangers and uh we did like rotations and got guys like soldiers prepped and ready to go to afghanistan and iraq they had to come through us for two weeks. Like a boot camp? Yeah, like a qualifier. So they've already been trained. They come to us, and we have to let them utilize their tools and their training proficiently so we can say, check, you're good. You know how to react to a sniper or react to an IED.

And I enjoyed that because I felt like I was back with the guys and I was in uniform. But then, no, I went to Texas. And this whole time I'm falling deeper into addiction from pills from the VA. Damn. And didn't realize, like, I was like, I'm an Army Sergeant. At the time I was ripped and young. And I'm like, I'm not like these guys over here.

I'm never never gonna get addicted like i'm just i enjoy the feeling that i have from a percocet and it's got my name on the bottle i'm not an addict oh damn i didn't i didn't fool anybody at the time except for myself so the addiction led me to be homeless years later when i went through uh like a psychotic break and ended up uh being escorted to the VA psych ward for a few days damn psych ward what was that like well it's it's the one thing that I will say that is very similar to like what you would see in a movie I watch a lot of war war movies and it's complete right that's what I

thought yeah seems like a lot of cap in there it's it's complete. Right. That's what I thought. Yeah. Seems like a lot of cap in there. It's, it's complete BS. Um, but when I went to the VA psych ward, I was ready at that time. And it may sound a little, Oh, the VA side, I was ready. Uh, the sheriff that came and, and picked me up was a former, uh, army infantry staff Sergeant. And he said like, are you ready to get help, man? You're scaring your family. I got served divorce papers in solitary confinement after I got told I'm never leaving the jail and I'm going to lose my kids while detoxing off of opiates alone in Texas. That's rock bottom for you right there. That must have been tough. Why were you in solitary? Because I was a former police officer. So people would come at you?

Yeah. Eventually I said, I'm losing my mind, put me in population. And because of the tattoos and my size, I had no issues. And I'm from Jersey, nobody knew, like nobody knew who I was. But that's the type of story that can inspire a guy who's down and out right now and abusing drugs. I fully believe that there's millions of addicts right now that are this close to losing their family and they don't even know it. And I've already lost so much. I've lost the custody of my eight-year-old daughter, my boys. Even though my life is getting much, is much better now, the pain that comes with losing so much due to addiction, it's a lifetime yeah pain so i want to help people that are there and don't even notice it yeah you've been through it you can help these guys man yeah you can't even talk to your kids

no so uh i used to have like supervised visitations rightfully so at the time um she was scared because i was such a nut i have a big I talk a lot, and I said a lot of scary things. Never physically hurt anybody, but she did the right thing. And I think any woman who's scared of a man should go and seek help, whether it be family, the authorities, whatever. If you feel scared, do not be too scared to go get help. And that's coming from a guy who went to jail and lost everything because of my decisions. But, no, I lost custody after seven

years of fighting. Seven years. Yeah. So from 2016 to a couple of months ago, so six years, I've been having them held over my head and all the charges are dropped. I have a concealed carry. I might be a sheriff again. Everything's good. Build myself back. But she used that against me all of those years and wouldn't let me see the kids. And like, I just couldn't keep, I couldn't afford to continue it. So. Yeah. So what's your advice for people going through custody stuff right now? Cause seven years, that must've been really stressful. Be respectful. The one thing that was on my side was there was over five years of text messages back and forth to my ex and I. And the attorneys on both of our sides could not find one disrespectful text from me.

Wow. Yeah. So I'll always be present, be respectful. Granted, I've said things off camera. I've been very hurt by what happened, but I take a lot of ownership. That's why I don't have too much hate if you you can't give people you can't hate somebody that would never have power to hurt you if you didn't give them the power if i didn't do drugs and lead up to the day where i i lost myself my kids wouldn't have been able to be taken from me.

So we have to take complete ownership in our actions. It's the only way that we're going to progress. I cannot point the finger at anybody but the guy in the mirror. Granted, I shouldn't have had to fight for my daughter for six years, living in a camper trailer, going broke, taking loans, everything I can, just to be told you can't see her without the justice system doing anything to have the father's back that's a whole nother story but as the father and the man if i didn't get high and give them the power they wouldn't have any yeah we got to take ownership that's deep man because some people are afraid to i don't know

if it's ego or something they're scared to be honest. I mean, you have one of the biggest shows in the world, you know, and that's why I'm being honest on here. Like, there's a... Are you interested in coming on the Digital Social Hour podcast as a guest? Well, click the application link below in the description of this video. We are always looking for cool stories, cool entrepreneurs to talk to about business and life. Click the application link below.

And here's the episode, guys. Millions of people like me who went from being on top of the world and fit and perfect credit in owning a house to on the streets doing drugs, losing themselves and getting in trouble. But what they don't see is the guys that look like me speaking about how they were that guy. Right.

They don't see the sober guy that's in Vegas hosting shows and doing big things, being honest about where he was six years ago. Yeah, people don't want to be vulnerable and admit they had some low points. Everyone has low points. They're scared. They're scared of their image.

I'm not. I'm scared of not being honest and that if I did not speak about my problems, that I wouldn't save lives. Like Like I want to save people's lives. If I could save one veteran's life by sharing my story and showing them like, it's okay that you can get sober. You can get a new life. I did it, bro.

Like you're not alone. Then I don't care if other people judge me. Like screw you. If you judge me, then I don't want to be your friend anyway. Yeah, and it's a snowball effect. You save one life, who knows what that guy's going to do with their life. Yeah, that's the goal. I mean, that's my next big thing, starting the community with veterans

and also maybe partnering up with the UFC and maybe the A's are coming out here and the hockey teams and taking vets to events that, you know, guys that don't even want to make their bed or be alive and then showing them like, hey, this is my boy Sean Kelly. Like just bringing people around, positive people for an event so that they can see a different way of life. Do you think that's helpful for veterans?

A lot of them struggle mentally when they get back. What do you think the ways to help them are? Well, there's two points to that. I think the transition out of the military sucks. They just throw you back. Yeah, it's called ACAP, like an acronym for whatever doesn't work. You know, like they give you like,

it's like two weeks and you're out of the military. You turn in your gear, you go get checked by the doctor, you sign some papers and nobody gets any service member ready for the transition from like being a squad leader one day to like just bobby living at your dad's house the next day so you think it should be a longer transition period yeah i think it should be a six to eight months yeah like a really and and

ensuring that there is support a lot of guys get out and they they go they don't have a home a lot of people go in the military because mom and dad work not the mom and dad that they wanted to be around you know it was their safe haven um i've seen guys in jail that were like i'd rather be in here than out there at least i'm getting fed and i can get my teeth worked on right so post-military a lot of people like myself and just a lot of people in general, in today's age, everyone cares about their image. So what comes with that is people lying to not just themselves but everyone around them about who they are, what they make, and how much stress they have and what's on their shoulders. And that's when that spiral comes. And before you know it, you're in a hole and you're on drugs or you're depressed and it's too

late to ask for help people need to start saying brother i am hurting today i need your help and on the other side people today don't want to help everybody's like i love you bro you're my bro and we're cool like oh yeah let's take a selfie and do some dope clips and like they don't want to answer the phone if you call them on tuesday everybody's fake as hell it's bad it's I don't know if it's a west coast thing or what we're both from Jersey yeah that didn't happen to me much in Jersey ever like ever yeah I still have boys that like from kindergarten yeah yeah and they're very straightforward which I like yeah but when I moved to LA man god damn it was tough finding friends out there how was LA you went there I went there from Jersey like three years ago and I moved out LA, man, god damn, it was tough finding friends out there. How was LA? You went there.

I went there from Jersey like three years ago. And I moved out in five months. I couldn't take it. Yeah. Vegas is a little better. There's pockets of good people here. Yeah, Vegas is. I've never lived in LA.

I lived in the Bay. But I've heard, you know. And I feel like Vegas is my closest experience to like that LA. Everybody here is like using me. I don't know. And we've had these conversations behind closed doors. Like it's in this space, it's unfortunate. I fully believe there's enough to go around

for everybody to win. That's how I act too. Yeah, most people don't. They want to step on each other and clout chase. It's short-term thinking. Yeah, I wonder why. Immediate gratification? I don't know.

It feels better to win with your friends, win with people. Why would you want to be successful alone? Yeah, that's boring. So boring. Imagine going on vacation alone. It's like, why am I even doing that? That's such a good point.

People do it, too. I'm like, dude, it's way better with people. I'm going on a cruise. I want all my boys there. Yeah. Well, the other ones who, they say the guy that's in Starbucks by himself smiling is a serial killer. So there's something like that, you know? That's funny, dude.

So what was tougher? Was prison tougher or being homeless? So I would have to say being locked up because homeless was self-influenced and put on myself. I always had the option if I decided to go to rehab or get sober that my father would help me. Okay. A lot of people don't have that.

Right. But I just wasn't there. I honestly didn't want to be alive. You know Route 9 in Lakewood? Yeah. You know the Walmart? Yeah. I lived in that parking lot.

Really? Yeah. So you had a car? I was living in a $42,000 Mustang. And you didn't want to admit to your dad? He knew everything. I was just so gone000 Mustang. And you didn't want to admit to your dad? He knew everything. I was just so gone. Wow.

I just didn't. You know, that's one thing. When you lose your children and you get divorced and you lose your job and your house and your wife and your life, and the only way to get your kids back is to get sober, but you've lost them through addiction, it's very hard for people to say, all right, now I'm going to get sober. Because now everything that you cherished and loved has been ripped out of your life and you feel hopeless even more. So now for me personally, I went even deeper. I was like, well, now I lost anything that I even wanted to live for.

So let's just end it. And I just went back to Jersey and went to Trenton every day and picked up and snorted it and hoped I didn't wake up, but I kept waking up. That's insane. So you're here for a reason then. Yeah. I'm here. Literally. I can feel it in my soul. 22 vets a day. I have it on my, my wrist. Yeah. Um, I have never met anyone that hasn't smiled when they're around me. That's awesome. And I feel like it's a gift.

I have to save some lives. That's all I want to do. I don't care about the fame. Granted, I want to get my community bigger because I can impact more people. But a lot of people just want all this for the wrong reasons. Terrible reasons, man. Yeah, I'd rather take longer. I mean, it shows in their character when they're just after money or fame like you could tell how are you how did you learn i don't ask you questions

but like at your age like did you have any like big mentors like coming from someone who's now the newer in the in the social media i've certainly learned from you in the last couple months yeah like how did you get to the pinnacle at your age like yeah i'd say a lot of mentorship i'd say i'm really quick at learning and i'd say i'm just like a good person that's simple as that dude like i don't try to take advantage of people so all the energy i'm putting out is good and it's coming back to me tenfold you know what i mean that yeah it's that simple i agree i do the same yeah yeah i never want i don't have to walk around looking over my shoulder because I'm just. No, why would you want to sleep at night scared?

Yeah. Like, I want to sleep at night knowing I'm doing everything I can. Especially when everything's recorded now. Yeah, your whole life is recorded these days. You can't do. They canceled Kevin Hart 13 years later or something, right? Yeah. Oh, he just got canceled?

Well, like a couple years ago or so, he was going to do the Oscars. Oh, yeah, yeah. And they brought up a tweet from like 2013 or something. Yeah. But even my old tweets, I mean, I'm sure there's some weird ones, but the lingo changes. You know, growing up in Jersey, we would call people certain names that these days you get canceled for.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, definitely. I know what you mean. Yeah. Jersey was brutal. I miss it. I'll be there in a few weeks. I'm hoping to go on JWoww's X.

Nice. I'm friends with Roger Matthews. I'm hoping to go on his podcast and go to the Jersey Shore and do all that stuff. It's always got a place in my heart. I mean, it was an interesting time period growing up there. What were you like in school? Were you like top of the pack? In the crew I was in, I thought I was, you know, my ego is huge and I thought I was the, the cool kid.

But even then at 16, uh, when nine 11 hit, my dad was engaged to a woman who ended up marrying. So they sold the house I grew up in and we moved in with her, but her and I didn't get along. So they got me my own apartment, basically kicked me out.

Yeah. So at 16, I was living on my own in Jackson. Dude, that's pretty cool, actually. It was cool, but... You could have parties. Yeah, but, you know, it got lonely. Right, right. You know, because you're 16 and there was no...

My mom, we didn't really speak. She's in New York. And my dad was sick because of 9-11 on all these pills and, like, drinking himself to death. And his wife at the time hated me. So I was like, I had this amazing apartment at the regency club off of county line road in jersey but uh that's similar to uh tony hawk tony hawk at his own house in high school yeah have a lot of parties um why didn't you like your dad's girlfriend at the time i don't think it had anything to do with her

i think it was just me i had a lot of anger interesting you know my mom was gone and i my grandma raised me and with my dad pretty strict you know uh catholic woman from brooklyn new york and i didn't want to move i was mad at the world like i didn't understand what just happened to my dad that all his friends just died oh he didn't tell you i've i mean i didn't know at the time no i just knew like hey now all of a, because the thing on the TV happened, we have to sell a house that we grew up in. Wow. Like I resented them.

Damn. Yeah, and I was hurt, so I rebelled. Yeah, because moving as a kid, you got all your friends there. It must have been tough. I mean, my whole life, 15 years, I lived in that house. And then we're going to some woman's house that I wasn't a huge fan of anyway. Well, I was lucky, though. The first day I lived there before i got kicked out and got an apartment i went to the school bus stop my friend dave gallipoli was my best friend growing up his dad um his mother actually jeez he's probably gonna kill me for saying this but yeah his dad is uh

his dad was a correctional officer and his mom like 25 times and went to prison. Holy crap. She survived that? She survived. They actually got back together years later. No way. Yeah. Bro. But they couldn't afford the big house that they used to live in, so they bought this tiny little house across the street from the house that I moved into

with my dad and his fiance. Wow. So I go to the school bus stop, like at the end of the driveway, And I'm like, Dave, and he's like, Bobby. And I'm like, yeah,

so that helps. So I hung out across the street a lot until I got my apartment. Nice. You still talk to him? Not as much. He's pretty deep in addiction and I don't really talk to anybody I used with. Oh, I have love for everybody,

but that's another thing. When, when they say people, places and things, it may sound cliche. You have to change if you want to change. You have to leave the environment you're in. You have to change the relationships you have with just, not just yourself, but everyone around you. You cannot change your physiology and your mindset and your body and your drug use if you stay in the same exact environment. That's true. And sometimes

when you try to help them, it drags you back in, right? Yeah. So I just, I have a lot of love for everybody, but like we talked about earlier, everybody kind of came out of the, everyone was like, nobody helped me when I was really down. And now that I'm hosting a show in Vegas and going to UFC events and doing cool stuff, everybody wants to be my friend. They're hitting you up. Yeah. I went through a down moment last year and I really found out my true friends, man. And I can count them on one hand, which is fine. Most people think they have tons of friends,

but you won't know until you go through a rock bottom moment who your real friends are. Yeah. I definitely have like five, six. Yeah. But honestly, that's all you need. You don't need tens of friends. I mean.

I could have thousands of acquaintances. Yeah. Just have acquaintances and just be good to everyone. You only need like a few good people you could talk to acquaintances. Yeah, just have acquaintances and just be good to everyone. You only need a few good people you can talk to. Yeah. Happy dad. Happy dad.

Are you up on all the happy dad stuff with the Nelk Boys? Yeah, I'm a fan of them. I think what they're teaching about health is powerful. You saw Kyle's transformation. Kyle's getting ripped. Yeah, and that's inspiring to kids. He's got millions of people following him, looking at that. Yeah.

Kyle's, he's an interesting gentleman. I'm proud of them. I've seen what they've gone from to where they're at now. But Happy Dad, I love Happy Dad. And like I said, I'm sober. I don't do drugs or anything, but I don't go to meetings. I don't count days. I'll have a beer once or twice a month or at dinner.

But I was with Steve Will Do It, and Steve convinced my dad to drink some Happy Dad at the USC VIP. And now my dad loves Happy Dad. I was with Steve Will Do It the night he got choked out with Steve-O. Oh, I saw that. Yeah, I was cage-side. I was going to leave, and Steve Will Do It's like, hey, Bobby, don't go. I'm about to get choked out. And I went out there, and it was like, Steve Will Do It, Steve-O in the octagon. I saw that. That was nuts. I don't know if I would do that. I had a video get choked out. I went out there and it was like, Steve will do it.

Steve-o in the octagon. I saw that. That was nuts. I don't know if I would do that. I had a video of it for days. They were like, don't post it. I don't think I could do that. No?

No, could you? I'd rather do that than drink pee. I think I'd drink pee, bro. Over getting choked out. But dude, it's been fun, Rob. Anything you want to close off with or promote? No, I just want to say I'm proud of you. I've been on you a short amount of time but you do remind me of my friends back home uh you're just who you are and you don't let other things get in your way and

that that should show a lot of people like just because you're at a certain level doesn't mean you need to be a for sure and i think you're teaching people by your actions you know and i like that a lot i met robin williams Robin Williams and I guarded him in Iraq with our platoon. And he always said we all put our socks and shoes on the same way. So just always start with love. I love that. He was the most famous person in the world. Yeah, he was a beast.

Thanks for coming on, man. Thanks for watching, guys, as always. And I'll see you tomorrow.