Digital Social Hour - Special Ops Veteran Speaks: Truth About Global Conflicts | Chad Robichaux DSH #744
Episode Date: September 21, 2024Join the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly as Special Ops veteran Chad Robichaux shares eye-opening insights about global conflicts! 🌍 Dive into the heart-pounding realities of evacuating civilia...ns from combat zones and uncover the untold stories of humanitarian efforts in Ukraine and Afghanistan. Chad's unique perspective, drawn from 84 years of family service and firsthand experience, offers a riveting look at modern warfare's complexities and the humanitarian crises that follow. 💥 Don't miss out on this conversation packed with valuable insights and real-world impact. Tune in now and discover the truth behind geopolitical maneuvers and the power dynamics at play. 🕵️♂️ Watch now and subscribe for more insider secrets. 📺 Hit that subscribe button and stay tuned for more eye-opening stories on the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! 🚀 Join the conversation and get the inside scoop on Chad's new book, "Mission Without Borders," and the incredible true stories behind his daring rescues. #InternationalRescueCommittee #Afghanistan #Kabul #Soldiers #UsMilitary #Afghanistan #FallOfAfghanistan #InternationalNews #Soldiers #CombatFootage CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 00:28 - Chad Robichaux’s New Book 05:00 - LinkedIn Advertising Credit 06:40 - Politicians Profit from War 09:23 - Afghanistan Insights 12:45 - Saving Aashiq Story 16:50 - Americans Left Behind in Afghanistan 20:44 - Your Son in Ukraine Conflict 22:55 - Rescuing Benjamin Hall 24:47 - Your Son in the Book 26:00 - Son Joining the Military 28:24 - Combat: Ukraine vs Afghanistan 30:26 - Will Ukraine Conflict Spread? 34:30 - Trump’s Impact on War 35:50 - Globalists and America’s Destruction 40:30 - Government Agencies vs Trump 42:03 - Solutions and Fixes 43:44 - Upcoming Elections 47:30 - Where to Find Chad Robichaux APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: Jenna@DigitalSocialHour.com GUEST: Chad Robichaux https://www.instagram.com/chadrobo_official https://www.chadrobichaux.com/ https://linktr.ee/ChadRobichaux www.youtube.com/@TrueStoriesOfLawEnforcement SPONSORS: LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/social Deposyt Payment Processing: https://www.deposyt.com/seankelly LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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The military is responsible for evacuating civilians out of a combat zone.
Because of the politics behind it, and him not being able to control the Department of Defense,
he gave it to the State Department, treated the evacuation like an embassy, and it cost lives.
That suicide bomber that hit the Abagate and killed 13 of our service members,
that guy was someone that our military was forced by our White House to let out of prison a week before.
All right, guys, we got Chad Rubber Show here today.
Crazy story and a new book coming out.
Thanks for coming on, man.
Yeah, thanks for having me.
Yeah, Mission Without Borders.
What's the premise of this book?
There's a couple angles for it.
One is it's me and my son, who's a Marine as well, a combat vet.
We have 84 years of service in our family. So we both, we both served in Afghanistan.
I went to Afghanistan eight times as part of a JSOC task force and special
operations. And he went to Afghanistan one time.
So we served in the same war, but now we are doing humanitarian work.
And I had to make the decision to take my son in a Russian invaded Ukraine
and in a war zone or,
or bench him like I did
during the Afghan evacs
when he was involved in it.
Wow.
So it's like the fear
and control
of being a father
to trusting him,
trusting God
and making a decision
to take my son
into combat with me.
So that's really
what the book's about.
The backstory
is all the humanitarian
rescue operations
we did in Ukraine.
I went to Ukraine
10 times
since the invasion.
The big rescue was rescuing the Fox News reporter Benjamin Hall, recovering the bodies of some of his teammates operations we did in ukraine i went to ukraine 10 times uh since the invasion but we had the big
rescue was rescuing the fox news reporter benjamin hall recovering the bodies of some of his teammates
and and then uh you know just uh two years of going there and helping people that can't help
themselves and and one of the big things about the book is is we keep it away from the geopolitics of
it because there's so many like uh opinions about ukraine yeah and uh a lot yeah a lot and it's very
confusing you know for me i don't agree with the hundreds of billions of dollars we're sending
ukraine because it's a corrupt cesspool so i don't agree with that personally uh we got a lot
of heat saying like hey why would you go there ukraine's corrupt and my response is that uh
every politician zwinski down the line from history from history has corruption. But we can't let our calluses towards that keep us from our compassion for people.
And in Ukraine, man, almost a million people have been killed because of this.
Holy shit.
Not politicians or not soldiers, like women, children.
And so we're there to help people.
And I just won't let my political biases keep me from my compassion for people.
And so that's a big part of what the book's about is just good people standing
up to do the right thing,
despite what governments do and helping their fellow human in a time of need.
Wow.
You know,
God's given me the ability to have 14 years of special operations,
30 years around the military and doing stuff like this and go and help these
people.
Love us.
That's what we did.
Can't believe there's already a million.
It's only a year,
right?
It's been a February 24th of 2022. so two and a half years yeah yeah that's a million people is
that more than afghanistan yo yeah yeah i mean it's i mean it's because you're talking you're
not talking about you know taliban and uh you're talking about uh first world superpowers with
ballistic missiles like telephone poles being being shot in the side of apartment buildings you know going to a place like kharkiv when i went through kharkiv i remember driving in
there like pitch black it's just eerie feeling yeah and it's and and it's felt apocalyptic
and one of the ukrainians came over to radio and he said um he welcomed the kharkiv the only thing
that lives here is will smith and his dog in the movie i am legend right like uh and that's what
it's like it's just like you you go this it's just, you know, soldier and soldier.
And a lot of people talk about Ukraine could turn into World War III.
From my position, and I've really dealt in, you know, national,
like national security, and I really understand this.
It's 30 years of my life.
This is World War III.
It's a proxy.
It's a kind of modern-day proxy war where you have, in Ukraine,
you have 30 countries there.
You have the United States, states you know the world superpower you have russia iran china north korea um ukraine itself
like all these 30 countries are there fighting each other in this proxy war so you know people
will look at world war ii you know we're at d-day today it's a kind of an honoring day at d-day but
you look at world war ii and you look at you know people standing across the battle line from each
other this is you know 2024 wars are fought differently and these are
proxy wars where you have u.s equipment u.s dollars china russia iran like all fighting each
other and uh so to me being there in front this is a proxy world war iii and it's very dangerous
that uh political leaders uh let this go on when in fact they could end it in 24 hours.
This thing could be over in 24 hours if the
leaders of our world would stand up and say
no, war crimes are being
committed. We need to call a
humanitarian ceasefire and come and
tend to these civilians that are being killed
through war crimes.
And draw a line in the sand. And that would be very
easily done if the people that have the power to do it
would have the courage to do it and desire to do it.
A lot of them are making money off of this.
And it's very profitable for people like President Zawinski and, unfortunately, people in our capital in Washington, D.C.
Yeah.
How are they making money?
Well, I mean, you're talking about, again, hundreds of billions of dollars.
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Or I say hundreds, you know, between a hundred and $200 billion that has been pumped there
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Billion?
Billion.
Yeah, so there's no congressional oversight.
So this money goes there, and it goes in a black hole.
You don't know what's being spent on it, how it's being spent.
The country with some of the worst history of corruption in the world is Ukraine.
And so President Zelensky is known for being part of this corruption, and that's who we're sending the money to.
Wow.
And so is there U.S. politicians that get money through the part of this corruption and that's who we're sending the money to wow so is there you know u.s politicians that get money through backing on this i you know
without throwing stones at any names i would say certainly yes uh um and those are the you know it's
our u.s congressional members and people in our white house that are pulling the strings on this
and those also so happen to be the people that could end this right and uh so you have a very uh i think serious conflict of interest without the oversight and that money is
our tax dollars right it's our tax dollars yeah it's our tax dollars and it's and uh you know
it's not being used to fight a war it's being used to allow uh innocent civilians i mean you
know people look at ukraine and it feels so distant from us right but when i drive to ukraine
and see pizza parlors and
ice cream stores and in schools and playgrounds with uh level to the ground places just like you
your islet in this community neighborhoods like we have here ukraine is a very civilized like
uh i wouldn't say it's a it's probably first world country i mean kiev's a first world place and
and uh to go through that and see that i've been i've been in wars i've been to 60 countries i've
been in wars my whole adult life you know spent eight deployments to afghanistan
so i've seen cornage and war but for me i've always seen it in places that are tribal and to
but to go into a place like kharkiv and kiev and see first world places like i say you see a place
that some kids had ice cream at last week yeah had a ballistic-sized missile outside of the telephone pole flown in the side of it.
For us to allow that in 2024 and not stop that is insane to me.
That's crazy.
We have the ability to stop it.
Any politician that would say they don't have the ability to stop it
is lying to you.
They do.
There's a lot of incentive.
The industrial war complex and the military industrial war complex on both in the military industrial war
complex to profiteer off of wars is real and that's not a that's not a partisan statement by
the way that's on the republican side and democrat side people make money off of wars and afghanistan
was pumping for 20 years these people were you know making money off these major uh you know
you look at the camp political campaigns you know raytheon and lockheed martin all these companies
put money in these political campaigns.
And now the people that – lobbying should be illegal to me, but they lobby these politicians to get into office.
And now that comes around and these are the guys that make the decision to say, hey, we're going to continue in this war where there's contracts for billions of dollars to these companies or not.
And so there's a lot of benefit for war.
Afghanistan lasted 20 years? 20 years. I didn't even know that.
I said, you got two generations. You got me and my son. Holy crap.
I was, I was, I first went to Afghanistan when my son was, you know,
I first went to Afghanistan in 2003. My son was, uh,
seven years old and then he ends up serving.
So you believe Afghanistan was a mistake. I don't, I believe Iraq not Afghanistan so yeah you believe Afghanistan was a
mistake I don't I believe Iraq was a mistake oh Iraq I believe Iraq was a mistake a lot of people
kind of merge Iraq and Afghanistan because of the war on terror but uh two very different things
I believe Afghanistan originally was the right intent you know if we would believe that um
you know there's lots of conspiracies around 9-11 if we believe that that 9-11 wasn't attacked by
by Osama bin Laden on us and then it was justified to go and eradicate the Taliban from Afghanistan and align with and i by the way i lost 15 friends during this time so so it's a heavy cost for me so for me to say that that cost was worth it
i believe it was for the not just america for the world and our national security and the security
of people around the world including the afghan people and uh now i believe at some point during
that 20 years we should we should have declared the war on terror was a victory right probably
president trump should have declared that the war a
victory because he had a window that he could have.
And then and I say that being you know, someone that served as an advisor, as a national veterans
policy advisor for President Trump, I do believe that it was a mistake that he didn't declare
a victory, he should declare a victory.
And and then we could have remained in Afghanistan, just like we do around the world, as a to do a support and advisory role for the Afghan National Army and Afghan National Police because that's actually what we're doing.
The entire international community, in fact, is working together to support the Afghan National Army and the Afghan National Police.
Because we didn't declare that, the American people were lied to by the media, by politicians to say that we're in this 20-year war, this endless war, and that we need to radically pull out of Afghanistan.
And then President Biden in 2021 made the decision to pull out of Afghanistan.
This is the most strategic place on the globe between Iraq, Iran, Russia, and China.
And to say that we had to pull out of this war when we had 2,500 troops there is insane.
We still have 80,000 troops in Japan since World War II.
Holy crap.
40,000 troops in Germany.
We have 35,000 troops in South Korea
on that 38th parallel to keep the
North Koreans from coming over. So having American
troops in these places don't keep us in war.
It actually prevents wars. And so the
move 2,500 troops out of Afghanistan
to say it was, I can
name 12 places right now that we have 2,500
troops around the world. So why Afghanistan?
Because it benefited a lot of our enemies and a lot of political interests.
China was the main beneficiary.
When we moved out, they earned all the mineral rights and Hindu Kush mountains, lithium.
Trillions of dollars, probably unlimited amount of dollars.
They were able to move sanctioned oil from iran into china so there's a lot of reasons that the white
house would have been pressured by foreign influence to move uh u.s troops out of afghanistan
and the cost of that was american lives uh leaving our allies behind giving up the most strategic
place on the globe and the and the cost of the 40 million afghan civilians and 20 million women's
little girls that are now sexually and sexually enslaved and uh in this book this other book here
saving aziz was when that happened, I made a decision
to go back and get my interpreter, who's my friend, of aid deployments.
We worked in a two-man team together in special operations.
And to go back and get him and his wife and six children, I put together a small special
operations team to do that.
And honestly, that led to just an absolute miracle that we were able to not only rescue
him and his family, but we rescued 17,000 people from there.
And so this book actually has been made into a motion picture film.
That's incredible. So you went rogue.
You assembled your own team and went back.
Yeah. Yeah. I wouldn't say it was rogue, but it's definitely kind of fun way to
say it. I mean, look, a lot of,
a lot of special operations veterans do humanitarian work around the world that
the government won't do either can't do or won't do and and we do everything at least I would say it's not rogues
because everything I do is coordinated through and I still do things today I've
got operations going all over the world when we do it we I communicate directly
with Special Operations Command Joint Special Operations Command the Pentagon
God to let them know what we're doing because last thing I want to do is
somebody did my job before is going on the same target as me and we we have a – so we need to de-conflict things.
Right, right.
So it's very much coordinated.
But there's a humanitarian – you have the government organization, which is the DOD and the Central Intelligence Agency or government organizations.
And you have NGOs, non-government organizations, which are nonprofits.
And so I've stood up and led several nonprofits.
Save Our Allies was this.
And then a fourth option is another one that I do.
The government has three options.
The options are diplomacy, military action, covert action.
A fourth option would be someone like me who's out working alongside the government to make these kind of rescues happen.
So we work directly with the Joint Chiefs to get permission to go to Afghanistan, be in the airport.
Now I had to get permission to bring people out of the country.
I needed another country to bring people to.
I got the country of the United Arab Emirates, the royal family, worked with us.
Oh, Dubai?
Dubai, yeah.
Amazing, amazing.
The royal family was amazing to us.
Let us bring people to their humanitarian city.
And they gave us permission to move people.
Because if you move people from one country to the next without visas or permission, you're human trafficking people.
So you have to have those permissions in place.
Very complex and complicated.
And then within three days, I realized that this could be not a – I wouldn't have to raise money for like a couple hundred thousand.
It would be millions of dollars.
And a man named Glenn Beck, who's like you, a radio show host, used his microphone to get on and ask for help.
And he thought he raised a few thousand dollars.
Well, he ended up raising total of $46 million.
Holy crap.
21 in three days.
And he didn't know what to do with it.
And he called me and knew I was involved.
And I just raised all this money.
What do I do with it?
I'm like, I know exactly what to do with it.
We had charter planes.
And those planes were like $800,000 average per flight.
Flying private is expensive.
Yeah.
So we, you know, all that led to us, you know, moving 17,000 people out. And in addition
to that, myself, and the second half of the book is myself and Dennis price, going into Tajikistan
and swimming in Afghanistan every night for 10 days to help women swimming. Yeah, the Panjshir
River is the border. Holy, so you have the Taliban there, the Chinese military, the Russian military,
protecting that border. And we got, you know know all the women and children trying to get out of afghanistan they don't know how i mean one afghan women don't swim right most have never even been
a bathtub before my swim and uh and they either have a baby in their belly or baby in their hands
that's just culturally uh and now they have to cross the panjshir river which is like 20 25 000
foot mountain peaks a whitewater rapid river that's freezing cold.
And so you got Taliban, Chinese, China, military there.
You got the Russian military, the Cheeks and Border Guard there.
They don't know how to cross or where to cross.
So we spent 10 days in there going in, assessing routes, building routes, and putting plans together to get these women and children across.
Incredible.
And that's kind of how the book ends. What a story.
Because you went to Afghanistan to fight and you end up saving the locals and 17,000
miles.
I mean, my heart, when I went to Afghanistan to fight, it was, you know, to fight Taliban,
not the, not the Afghan people.
In fact, my heart, after one deployment, there was probably more focused on the oppression
of Afghan people than it was for the national security of the United States.
I fell in love with these people, the culture, and really had a burdened heart for what they
experienced, especially the grotesque sexual molestation of children by the Taliban and
the things like that, and the oppression of these women.
And so I was very proud that my time in Afghanistan was helping little girls go to become doctors
and teachers and whoever they want to be and being part of giving that to
the Afghan people for 20 years. It's a shame that that's going away now. And so I wanted to help get
as many of them out of there as I can. And I'm still working on it now. So it didn't stop at
17,000 people. That was three years ago now. And I'm still working on getting as many people.
So it's still like that over there right now? Taliban's still running it?
Taliban's running it.
China has our,
probably $80 billion in U.S. equipment that we left behind.
Holy crap.
I still know that there's U.S. Americans
that are still left behind there.
Oh, they didn't evacuate all 2,500?
No, that was 2,500 troops,
but you were talking thousands of Americans,
probably 20,000 Americans that we left behind.
We evacuated. We closed
our military base,
and we evacuated our military
before we evacuated our civilians.
And we closed our
military air base
and moved to a civilian
air extract through the Afghan
local airport.
It was insane.
It was handled.
And so there was no plan in place to evacuate our American fleet.
So Americans were left behind.
Oh, my God.
Which is unacceptable under any administration, by the way.
I don't know your audience base.
Was that under Trump or Biden?
That was under President Biden.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yes, I don't know your base.
It's heavy, right?
Yeah.
To me, it doesn't matter. biden okay yeah yes i don't know your your base and it's heavy right yeah i'll say it it to me
it doesn't matter like uh i mean it wouldn't matter who's in office that you just don't do
that now now president trump a lot of people kind of nail president trump and say well president
trump initiated the uh the doha agreement which is the agreement with the taliban uh but look
president trump would have never farfetched a bach of air force base he would have never forfeited Baca Air Force Base.
He would have handed it over to the international community, and he would have not allowed the Taliban to take over in the way they did. It was set up in a different way.
President Biden completely forfeited everything.
He took the NEO operation, which is noncombatant evacuation operation, away from our military and gave it to the State Department is uh you know it's very complex to get into what that means but what that means is uh the the military is
responsible for evacuating civilians out of a combat zone that's what they do not the state
department because of the politics behind it and him not being able to control the department of
defense he gave it to the state department and secretary blanken treated the the evacuation
like an embassy and it cost lives.
That's terrible.
It cost 13 of our service members' lives at the Abbey Gate.
That suicide bomber that hit the Abbey Gate and killed 13 of our service members, 170 civilians, and injured 100 more.
That guy was someone that our military was forced by our White House to let out of prison a week before.
Yeah.
And he ended up being a suicide bomber so he ended up being a suicide bomber.
It'd be a suicide bomber. We knew that anybody would have knew that.
This is guys, a combatant that we, that we,
we arrested and we let him go before our people were out. Right.
Oh my gosh. And they hid that for three years. It just came out.
They hit it. Oh, it just came out. They hit it for three years.
So there was a lot of suicide bombers in Afghanistan. Yeah. I mean, that's,
that's a, it's one of the things that one of the strategies Taliban do is they,
you know,
take these young boys that are usually under,
under uneducated and they manipulate them into believing they're doing it
for their family.
They're doing it for God.
Wow.
And,
uh,
I thought that was Japanese.
I didn't,
I didn't know they were doing it too.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
It's,
uh,
you know,
in Afghanistan,
it's,
it's horrific.
It's horrific to fight something like that,
to,
to know that you could be standing anywhere and somebody
could just walk up to you and clack off a suicide
vest. That's nuts. And you don't even see
it because they're probably wearing stuff over it.
Yeah, if you're in a crowded city, they're going to dress
like they're getting their burqa, look like a woman.
And so
they have a suicide vest
underneath it. Holy crap. That's the things our troops
faced. How big is the radius on those?
It depends, but I mean usually like just a suicide vest underneath it and that's how troops faced and how big is the radius on those it depends but i mean yeah i mean usually like just a suicide vest if you're within if you're within 50 yards of a suicide vest like everybody in that damn 50 yards that's pretty big
that's half the football field yeah yeah oh my gosh that's terrible man you're gonna you're gonna
either be killed or seriously injured 50 yards and you were with your son in afghanistan or was
that ukraine it was ukraine my son was involved in afghan evacs but we kept him in dubai got it and
so that was kind of a build-up right we kept him in dubai you wanted him safe and he's like hey i
had an interpreter too i was in afghanistan i'm like yeah great you're part of it but and then
we get in uh ukraine and he's participating he's highly valuable because he's so good with like
some of the communications and tech stuff because he's young. He's 28 years old.
So he's proving his worth to the team.
And we did a rescue of Benjamin Hall, the Fox News reporter, when he was catastrophically wounded.
And they were like, the Pentagon actually asked us to go get him because the U.S. military is not allowed in Ukraine, including all of our Tier 1 special operations units and the CIA.
The White House did not allow them to go to Ukraine so we're like hey we're all sitting in a safe house and um in Krakow Poland we had just got all of our assets in place to be able to go
anywhere we needed to in Ukraine like literally like within two hours we had that we had had the
capability and uh C-Spray who's a good buddy of mine he kind of running our operations there he
he got a phone call we're all just having fun in the house talking and eating and uh he's like you tell
us on a serious call he put his hand up for everybody be quiet and then when he got off the
phone he's like hey fox news reporter benjamin hall and his team were just hit hit uh in kiev
russia was trying to take kiev at that time so kiev we thought was gonna fall and uh like his
team was killed pierre is his 25 year cameraman of fox news sasha
the ukrainian correspondent the security team was all killed like benjamin hall's alive they don't
know how long he's gonna live but he has a wife and two little girls at home and uh if we don't
go get him right now no one is he's gonna die like who's in and everybody in the house raised
their hand holy include my son and uh so there was nine of us in the house,
including by the way,
the all special operations guys,
except one guy, Adam LaRoche, who's a baseball player.
He just happened to be in the house,
like come and meet us for dinner.
And so we drug him out with us.
Oh, you brought him?
We brought him with us, yeah.
We're like, hey, we need everybody we can.
But my son and another guy,
were the ones that were chosen to stay back and run our operation.
You got to have somebody back on the back end monitoring our movement and all the intelligence and coordinating stuff.
So he got benched on that Benjamin Hall rescue.
He was pretty sour about it.
I don't blame him.
And we rescued Benjamin Hall, got him to the U.S. military, and then we went back and recovered Pierre's body.
I actually drove Pierre's body out myself.
We weren't going to go back because we thought Kiev was falling.
We weren't going to go back and get a body.
And I wasn't going to put the team in that jeopardy.
But then Pierre's wife came into Poland and was like, I want to see my husband.
And we were like, yes, ma'am.
We're going to go get him.
And so I drove his body out. But, you know, that point after that operation, my son was – I could tell my son was, like, really struggling.
And I really just had this dilemma that I had to make a decision.
Like, am I going to allow my fear, my control as a father, keep my son from doing things that I believe that God has burned his heart to do?
And that was a real dilemma because I want to protect him. I want to keep him safe. He's my
son. Like, yeah, he's 20 something years old. He's a combat veteran. He's got experience. He's
really good at what he does, but you know, I have a responsibility to protect him. And I came to this
conclusion through mentorship and wisdom of other people that, man, I love my son, but
God loves him way more than me. I can protect my son, but God can protect him more than I ever can, whether he's on
his couch in Houston or, or in a war zone in Russia.
And, uh, you know, and I, I should never be someone that blockades the burdens of someone's
heart to do what they want to do for others.
And, uh, even if it's my son and, uh, because I know my heart's always been that way.
Like if I want to go help someone and do something, I feel like those doors are open to do it. I'm going to go do it. So I didn't want to be that blockade for him. So I had to make a decision to let him participate. And so the was like, you know what? I'm good. And every time he's went out.
And the book starts, if you read the prologue of the book, the book starts in a pretty dark place.
Like I'm in a Zoom, and me and Seaspray are going.
We went to identify some mass graves and rescue a Marine that was a U.S. Marine that went volunteer with the Ukrainians.
He'd been shot and captured.
So me and Seaspray are going to do that.
And we get caught in this town called a Zoom. russians had for six months and the ukrainians
just liberated it so we went in there and then the russians closed the line behind us and so
we're caught in this major battle uniform on uniform you know high-tech uh wepertree on high-tech
wepertree migs flying over us dropping bombs on ukrainian soldiers they're shooting with
bombs are hitting idf indirect fires hitting within 100 yards of us like it's pretty chaotic probably some of the most chaotic
things i've ever seen and uh in two hours away from us in a in a town called bakmut my son hunter
is uh it's delivering supplies to ukrainian troops and they get hit so simultaneously i'm
on the radio with him and i'm like hey we're taking indirect fire and i could hear another
side his that's that's kind of how we started the book off. Like, and then,
you know, and then that kind of goes back to how do we get there? How do we get to where we're
both at the same time, two hours away from each other, two hours behind Russian lines,
uh, you know, in this, in this scenario. And, and, uh, so the book really shares that journey.
That's pretty nuts. When he first told you he wanted to join the military, what was your reaction?
My family has 84 years of service.
World War II, I'm told now, my son's going back into Ancestry.com,
so I'm told World War I, but World War II, Korea.
My father was the first Marine in our family as infantryman in Vietnam.
And then I went in Marine Special Operations and did eight deployments to Afghanistan.
So he grew up around special operations guys uh you
know from the task force so i was on a lot of seals and recon marines he grew up around that
and he's always been he's a wrestler and you know he's an athlete his whole life and and i'm a big
brazilian jiu-jitsu guy i'm a fourth degree black belt brazilian jiu-jitsu and did 20 professional
mma fights so he like he's been around that kind of lifestyle and so it was no surprise that you
know he had always
wanted to do it that he would join the marines at 17 just like i did and my dad did too uh and so
when he did i was super excited for him i helped him pick the job he would do because i kind of
knowing him what i thought would fit best and we had picked anglico which is an air never gone
fire liaison company work with a lot of foreign militaries and in bed with them and when he went
to so when he went to afghanistan he didn't go as like a traditional U.S. military unit.
He was, his little four-man Anglico team was embedded with the Georgian, the country of Georgia, their infantry.
Yeah.
And so to call in U.S. air support for them.
Got it.
So that was his job.
And so I was super excited.
But when he went to Afghanistan, then it hit me.
The reality of it hit me.
Knowing, I buried friends there and
knowing that environment and knowing my son could be so i really had a struggle big struggle and i
talk about a lot in this book when he was in afghanistan deployed uh he came home and i'm like
my son's home safe that's it never have to deal with that again and then he you know he pursues
the the path i'm on in the humanitarian side of things. And so I did have to deal with it again.
And a lot more close to home by him being on my team and going out on operations that I had control over.
And so, yeah, it's a very unique environment.
Hopefully now the left fathers have to deal with that.
But whether you deal with that in combat or life, like I think as fathers or people that have loved ones, right, you don't have to just be a father over a son.
Like people that have loved ones, you always want to control.
As most men do, we want to control people's lives.
We want to keep people safe,
that people care about safe.
And sometimes it becomes,
there's a line that we cross
and we allow fear and control to cross a line
and interfere with people's success.
And ultimately, you know,
they're giftings and talents
and things they're called to do.
Yeah.
You said the weapons in Ukraine were very advanced. How does the style of combat differ from Afghanistan? Well, I mean, you know, they're giftings and talents and things they're called to do. Yeah. You said the weapons in Ukraine were very advanced.
How does the style of combat differ from Afghanistan?
Well, I mean, in Afghanistan, you're dealing with old Russian AK-47s and RPGs.
And, you know, the thing that scared me worse was a PKM, which is a heavy machine gun, a 7.62 caliber machine gun mounted on top of a truck or something like that.
That's the kind of things that I worry about most in Afghanistan.
Yeah..62 caliber machine gun mounted on top of a truck or something like that that's that's the kind of things that i worry about most in afghanistan yeah ied you know improvised explosion device buried in a road or in a in a vehicle being driven into you now you go into ukraine and you got a mig
they have air they have air superiority everywhere in afghanistan we had air we had the air okay now
you got a mig fighter jet flying over you dropping bombs holy crap you have a ballistic missile
flying flying from you know a couple of hundred, like I said, the size of a telephone pole, flying in the side of a building.
You witnessed that?
Yeah.
I mean, yeah, everywhere.
I got tons of videos I can show you.
It's insane.
So this isn't – you're not talking about the Taliban.
You're talking about like first world you know ballistic missiles
modern you know modern day at the highest level of warfare yeah and uh i mean do you see drone
strikes drone strikes uh i mean on both sides by the way you know so it's not just like the
russians now you have ukrainian fighting back so so i mean this is like high-tech country-on-country
warfare i mean afghan we never a lot of people get confused that aren't really familiar with I mean, this is like high-tech country-on-country warfare.
I mean, a lot of people get confused and aren't really familiar with warfare.
Like the United States didn't fight, at least at the end, they wouldn't fight Iraq.
They were fighting insurgents.
The United States wasn't fighting Afghanistan.
We were fighting the Taliban, a tribal terrorist organization.
So they have some sophistication, some out of warfare. Inaq you have iran you know iran by proxy fighting with it as insurgents there but you're not fighting
like i mean you're fighting the russian military yeah it the stakes are higher it's different yeah
wow yeah that is nuts yeah it pretty much sounds like world war three they just won't admit it on
no no it's by proxy it is you know and uh you know no one wants to admit that but that's where that's what we're really facing right now do you see it bleeding over to other countries
or i mean man look you go and you go into poland and they're they're terrified they are the they
are the border of the united nations and and you know if if ukraine falls now the border is poland
and look what you know quick you know it doesn't, it seems like a long time ago to you and I, especially you, you know, your age and your generation, but it wasn't that long ago that Poland experienced that in World War II and the Germans took, you know, invaded Poland.
And so people there remember that.
Yeah.
And people there relate to that. I mean, I remember like sitting down and this lady's talking to me and she knew us from America and this older lady and she's like, if Ukraine falls, America's not there helping Ukraine.
If Ukraine falls, will America help us in Poland to keep – because Putin won't stop.
I mean, it has to be.
He wants more.
He'll always want more.
I mean, that's what narcissists, evil narcissistic leaders do.
And look, people see Putin and they're like there's a lot of appealing qualities to him i mean he's for the type of personality i am he's a pretty appealing
guy he's a strong leader not gonna take crap from anyone no monsanto monsanto and controlling seeds
won't be there like he won't allow fast food he won't allow people to like there's some things
but he is an evil human being who doesn't care about human life. Wow. And he wants power and he's,
he's narcissistic.
He wants power and he will destroy any,
anyone and anything to get power.
And he has to be stopped.
Now I'm not saying that America,
that United States,
you go to war with,
with Russia.
What I'm saying is that United States is a leader of the free world.
Demands the UN to call a humanitarian ceasefire ends the war in Ukraine
based on very valid things.
You know,
president Biden at any moment could say it's enough.
Like you're using,
using a ballistic missiles against civilians using chemical weapons.
And I could validate that personally,
personally.
Yeah.
I can personally validate chemical weapons on civilians.
How does that work?
It's like a gas or yeah,
like a gas,
like a nerve agent or something like that.
It's tons of on civilians that not to be,
it's not even allowed to be used in the military, by the way.
But especially not on civilians.
Right.
So there's mass graves that I personally have not only witnessed, but went there to witness mass graves.
Because we don't want to trust the Ukrainians because they're getting a lot of money.
So if the Ukrainians see these mass graves, we don't want to take their word for it.
So I've went and personally documented mass graves and we don't want to take their word for it so i've went and personally uh documented mass graves there's enough evidence for the president united states and in the un to say
or nato let's say you and nato to say there needs to be humanitarian ceasefire we have to draw a
line somewhere and there will be no more fighting in the u in the in the united nations and nato
are going to come in and care for these women and children who are not combatants and and when that would be established
putin would somewhere in there somewhere in the eastern front of ukraine would be a line that
would be drawn in the sand and as long as that that uh that nato force that was there which
should be should include the united states not going there to fight to do the humanitarian aid that nato force should be there that prevents prutin from coming across
whatever that line is the reason why is this thing called article 5 and article 5 is something that
uh putin will never want to violate he's he's crazy he's insane and he's evil but he's not
stupid what's article 5 and article 5 means that if you even indiscriminately wound a NATO soldier, especially in this humanitarian – it is an act of war from the entire United Nations has to act.
Whoa.
It's obligated to act against that oppressor.
So that would wipe them out.
The whole world would be obligated to respond.
Well, I say the whole world, the United Nations world. The whole world would be obligated to respond. Well, I say the whole world, the United Nations world.
The whole world would be obligated to respond to Russia.
The UN is one of the biggest countries, though.
Right, exactly.
So Putin would know not to do that.
So that's when I say this could be over in 24 hours.
And you have heard President Trump have said that before as well.
And people think he's –
He wants to end it.
Yeah, people think he's being egotistical by saying that.
But no, he's saying that based on – I would assume the the same premise that I'm saying, like, humanitarian ceasefire.
He wants to end the Israel one, too.
Yeah, of course.
I mean, look, everybody called him a warmonger.
Everybody said he was going to start World War III.
He's the only president in my lifetime that has been in a presidency that has not started any new wars.
Wow.
The only president.
That's great.
Your whole lifetime.
My whole lifetime.
Damn. presidency that has not started any new wars wow the only president that's great your whole lifetime my whole lifetime damn i mean you know uh both bushes uh obama yeah biden now you know that's 20 years right there yeah yeah both bushes we're talking 30 years oh 80 yeah
yeah clinton clinton right bill clinton so all these presidents have started wars
president trump's the only one that hasn't so So if people call him a warmonger, you can not like him, right? But let's just get the facts are there, right? You call him whatever you want. He's the only president that has not started another war. During his time, ISIS and the Taliban were done.
It didn't reignite until he left office.
Wow.
Which is crazy because everyone thought he would start wars.
No, he stopped it.
He was the only one who did it.
He's the only one who did it.
It's ironic.
So you could not like him if you want, but you could also look at the facts.
You could put whatever bias you have towards him aside and just look at the facts and it's there.
You can't debate it.
You can't. It can't debate it. You can't,
it's not,
it's not debate.
It's,
it's,
that's,
that's,
and that's why you got to be careful with the media and how it portrays
certain people.
And they try to vilify certain people as well.
Sure.
Um,
yeah,
because,
you know,
unfortunately most of our mainstream,
not most,
but all of our mainstream media is,
uh,
is bought and paid for by,
you know,
the world economic forum Economic Forum and globalists
who want to destroy America.
They have to take America out.
America has to be gone.
Why do they want that?
What's that?
Why do they want to destroy America, you think?
Well, I mean, in order for globalism to exist
and a one-world government to exist,
the last standing thing against that is America.
Wow.
And so you have to destroy America to do that.
And that's why – why would George Soros, why would, why would people outside the United States be investing
billions of dollars into, uh, into controlling the education system in the universities in America?
Why would people from outside our country be care about the, you know, who's in our Supreme courts?
Well, why would they care about who's in our white house? Why would they care about what's
said in American media? Um, because it's all a very deliberate attempt to destroy this country because
this country stands in the way of a world a one world government and uh and that sounds like crazy
conspiracy theory but no it's not if you look at your put your you know again put your biases and
opinions aside just don't trust me but please don't trust me definitely don't trust the mainstream
media just research for yourself this stuff This stuff is pretty easy to find
if you just research yourself.
There's great podcasts exposing it
like Sean Ryan, a few others.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I talk a lot about this stuff
on my podcast on The Roseanne Show.
And yeah, I was just watching on Ryan.
Sean Ryan's a great voice in it.
But that's why I love shows like this
and podcasts.
Podcasts are so important
because no one's controlling what you say. No one sponsors no platforms i'm on my own and dude the world
economic forum came to one of my events and tried recruiting me yeah scary right and if i wasn't
educated yeah i would have probably taken it but because i knew about it i was like what the hell
this is weird whatever endless pot of money and yeah, they all flew out, like eight guys, to my event in Vegas.
And I was like, this is crazy.
Well, you're a prime target.
Your age, your voice, your platform.
I mean, that's who they're going to go after.
Yeah.
Because they want your voice.
They offered to fly me out and all this shit to some random place.
It was weird, dude.
Yeah, probably some island.
Yeah.
Epstein Island.
Some little kids or something like that.
Yeah, it's scary, man.
They figure out what your flavor is and then compromise you.
I mean, we joke about it right now, is and then compromise you. This has happened.
I mean, we joke about it right now,
but it's happened to a lot of people.
They've been compromised.
And once they're compromised, they own.
A lot of celebrities, right?
You have celebrities and people with voices
and people in political positions.
I think I'm good
because they'll never be able to sway me with money.
But if they start doing threats,
then I'm going to have to call you up
and get you to help me out.
Me and a bunch of my friends. Yeah. No, no it's sad though you see a lot of these big people selling their souls or selling out for money and then pushing agendas they don't care about like
a good example is the rock right now i mean he you could see kind of regrets it yeah yeah because
he did he kind of he during the last election he was democrat he got behind biden and kamala and
i think i think he's a good I think he's a great human.
And I think he loves America.
And I don't know why he did it.
But I think he's regretting it now.
Yeah.
I mean, you could just see him on Rogan.
Every answer was like a bot answer.
He couldn't give his own opinion.
No, yeah.
And that happens to so many people.
I think they just get sucked in and they jump on these kind of mainstream biases without really educating themselves on what's underneath it.
It's so easy to hate President Trump because of everything you've heard.
And people are like, yeah, but, you know, they give some – it's like, no, there's no but, man.
This guy, look, is he kind of an egotistical maniac dude?
Of course he is.
He's been a billionaire for a long time.
He's been in power.
And I mean, most people that have been billionaires are a bit narcissistic a little bit, right?
But he loves America.
You can't argue that the man loves his country.
And he's not part of the political system.
And that's why they hate him. He's not part of the political system. He's not part of the agenda. And he's not part of the political system. And that's why they hate him.
He's not part of the political system.
He's not part of the agenda.
And he's not going to play by the rules.
And he cares more about the people than he does about the government.
And people have lost that.
People have lost the fact that these elected politicians are not leaders.
We call them leaders.
They're not leaders.
The constituents send them to
represent their representatives they represent the people yeah and this government was established
to to represent the people and it's you know for the people by the people it's and people have
forgot that president biden donald trump uh george bush bill clinton whoever's in an office
he's not and he's not in control of us or in charge of us.
They're there to work for us and represent us.
And if people could just get back to that, then they would understand someone like President Trump who's there to like stand in the gap for people.
But there was just so much programming.
Some people were just too far gone.
Yeah, I mean they were – and they did a really good job at it.
It made them easy to hate.
They got a lot of my friends at first, but then people started realizing what the hell, like it's programmed.
Yeah.
How did you feel about the government agencies turning on him as someone who's probably worked with some of these agencies?
Man, that's probably the most heartbreaking thing for me because, you know, most of my life has been in service from 17 years old till now.
I'm 48 years old now so 31 years of my life has been in service to our
government our country and uh and to see some of these institutions that i that i have grown up
respecting um including the department of defense uh and central intelligence agency the fbi that
have grown up respecting them and trusting my life and the lives of my friends with them and
trusting the lives of my you know my people the American people with them that not only has
been compromised, but it's been weaponized politically and weaponized against the American
people. Wow. And, uh, and that's terrifying to me. And, uh, and I mean that in a way that's like,
I haven't been able to reconcile that. It's terrifying to me. And, uh, and it's,
and it's, uh, it's really saddens me
because uh you know i've had friends that have given their lives voluntarily you know sacrificed
their lives for this country and believing the government institutions in this country
and uh you know political leaders that have you know self agendas and and agendas that aren't in
the best interest of the united states have you know have compromised and uh and you know what i
believe and and i hope if president trump gets back in office that he will clean out clean house you know, have compromised. And, you know, what I believe in,
and I hope if President Trump gets back in office,
that he will clean house in these organizations.
And, you know, some of them,
some of these organizations, unfortunately,
probably have to go.
Wow.
And be completely gutted from the bottom up.
It's that bad.
That's what Vivek said.
He wants the FBI gone, CIA gone, all that, right?
It's that bad that it has to be from the bottom up,
gutted, gutted. I mean, look, I? It's that bad that it has to be from the bottom up. Got it, got it.
I mean, look, I have a lot of friends that serve in the FBI.
The bottom half of the FBI is patriotic men and women
who love our country and want to do the right thing for our country.
Somewhere in that upper 50%, I don't know where that line is,
there's a shift to the people that lead the organization
that have been people that have been compromised
all on one side by the left.
And so if you're in a left or right and you're listening to this,
like a Democrat or Republican,
if you look at something like that unbiasedly and say,
if everybody is compromising,
it's compromising to one side,
then that side's probably inherently bad.
That's strange.
Yeah.
If you have people compromising to some people compromise and they're playing political favors to the right
and some people compromise
and play political favors to the left,
that's just real world.
That makes sense, right?
You're going to have people that do that.
But when all the compromise is on one side,
that should be terrifying for any side.
And you should realize that that side's probably bad.
Well, the money's probably better on that side
because they're in bed with big companies.
Sure, yeah.
All the big companies that run the country all big pharma big globalist countries
too yeah big globalist countries yeah yeah i mean they have big globalist companies that are like
in the jar sources and yeah so i wonder what the fix is though because you're not going to be able
to fix human greed that's just nature no no you're not you're not so i don't know if it's even fixable
right like i don't you know i have the big question me, the kind of litmus test if we even have a country anymore and we have an America the way that I grew up knowing America to be is this next election.
Because I think anybody in their right mind, any sane human being will say there is no possible way.
You could hate Donald Trump and you could be a complete liberal on the left and believe all the left policies and still rationally understand that Donald Trump wins
this election in a free and fair election. There's no way that president Biden has a chance
to beat this man in a free and fair election. If he wins, I'll be shocked.
Yeah. So that's the litmus test, right? If, if he wins, then we know that America does not have
electorate vote anymore. Right. And, and we, and we've lost a voice to have to choose our
leaders and and what happens with that who knows man this is these are the kind of things that's
that literally start a civil war and rebellion these are kind of things i mean that really i
mean january 6th to me is is is it was orchestrated and insane uh so that's not what we're talking about we're talking about like people really rising up or conceding uh which is sad but if they concede then we just don't have
a free america i don't think america goes away yeah i think it becomes europe and we might have
some states leave if he wins again yeah we could we could uh you know and that's very that's very
people get excited about that oh like people love
change so they're like oh yeah i'm in texas so people like it'd be awesome if we succeed
there's a lot of implications to that like we don't want it's like it's like a good marriage
it's been around like i've been married 30 years like and you know people have been around marriage
just 30 years like oh it'd be great to you know start over with someone new or something like
that sounds good the amount of damage that comes from that is not good and so if state starts succeeding and stuff like that it
sounds real appealing and sexy to people but man there's so much damage that comes with that
absolutely we want to stay united we want the united states to stay together and uh but i
believe that hinges on the american people knowing that it's still a voice when american people
believe they don't have a voice anymore and they got a taste of it this last election most americans
most rational americans know that there was you know a lot't have a voice anymore and they got a taste of it this last election, most Americans, most rational Americans know that there was a lot of election fraud and mail-in ballots and stuff like that.
And don't believe that was a free and fair election and a legitimate outcome.
But if that happens again this time with the way the scales are tipped this time with the election interference with the New York the new york court system and you know
convicting donald trump on these felonies in the middle of election and i don't know i don't know
how america responds uh they either again either gonna rebel or completely concede and either one
of those are terrible for the country yeah i feel like this is the most pivotal election of all time
it is yeah yeah everybody says that every election is the most important election of all times but
this this really is. It really is.
It's the determination if we have a free and fair election system in a country, and that determines if we have a country.
Yeah.
As we know it.
If he wins again, that means – that could mean that other elections have been compromised in the past.
We know they have, but at what point?
I mean, look, they tried everything to take him out.
Yeah. what extent what a point i mean look they tried it they're trying everything to take him out yeah you know they i mean this this is not a coincidental circumstance the conviction yeah
legally probably physically who knows he'll win an appeal but it doesn't matter if he wins this
in an appeal because it's in the middle of an election right but i mean his his poll numbers
are going up i don't know if you know like he's at like 56, right? Yeah, and that's definitely flawed polls.
But even with that, he's still at 56.
I'd say he's probably like 90% down.
Probably.
I've only met one body of support in my whole life.
Yeah.
But I mean, how the American people responded.
When he got the announcement
that he got convicted of a felony,
they had 360 million come in in the GOP website.
I saw that.
That's crazy.
It shut down.
The website crashed.
It helped him.
Yeah, it helped him.
That's funny.
Chad, it's been fun.
Where can people find more about you, your books?
I know you've got a film coming up.
Yeah, I mean, everything for me, chadroboshow.com.
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Cool.
Link it all below.
Yeah.
And I can't say who wrote it.
I could just say the people that made Terminalist or in charge of making this movie.
Nice.
Can't wait to see it, man.
So if you like Terminalist, which is a series, it's being a big screen.
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