Digital Social Hour - Tales From The Strip: Inside the High-Stakes World of Slot Gambling with Vegas Matt #5

Episode Date: April 14, 2023

Are you ready for an exciting episode of the Digital Social Hour podcast? This time, we have an exclusive guest, Vegas Matt, who is known for his slot gambling and viral videos on TikTok. During the interview, Vegas Matt reveals his secrets to responsible gambling, his favourite casinos, and the hold on slot machines. We also hear about his plans for a fun gambling trip to Las Vegas, along with a proposed face-off against DLucky, the number one slot gambler on TikTok.But that's not all! Vegas Matt also gives us insights into his successes in network marketing and real estate, including tips on how to grow a successful team. Plus, we discuss the similarities between affiliate marketing and network marketing.So, come on in and listen to this exciting episode of the Digital Social Hour. Vegas Matt and I eagerly await your arrival. Remember to gamble responsibly. Thumbnail made by LavaLampLabs --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/digitalsocialhour/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to the Digital Social Hour. I'm here with my co-host Ari Gold, as well as our guest today, Vegas Matt. What's up? How we doing? It's another beautiful day in Vegas. So you are a slot gambler. I guess I am. Jumping right into it.

Like, all right, so you're a D-Gen. What's up, buddy? Tell me about that. It's random how that happens. You know, like I'm somewhat retired-ish, you know, and moved to Vegas when I was still making money because, you know, all the many reasons to move here in addition to the no state taxes. And one day I was playing at the M and I got a Delt Royal for like $78,000. And so my son and I filmed, you know, filmed our reaction and filmed the thing just going up.

And we were like, how much is it going to be? And we, you know, and then we got a nice little video out of it. And then we decided to post it to TikTok and it kind of went viral. And then I gambled you know almost every day anyway what year is this when did when did the first video go up i think that was about two years ago or god when the heck was that 20 pre-covid post-covid uh right pre-covid so what was that so it's been more than that almost three years yeah it's been almost three years now um i think it was December of 19.

Nice. Now, time flies when you're having fun. Four years, buddy. Wow. Well, it seemed like two years. But yeah, so it just started happening. And then I got on TikTok. I'm one of the only 59-year-olds on TikTok, I guess.

And I love it, man. It's so fun. And we post every single day. We gamble every single day. And it's awesome. So in the three years you've been doing slots, would you say you've made money or lost money? I lost money. OK.

At least you're honest. Yeah. Well, that's true. One of the things that people really like about me, it sounds kind of self-serving, but is that I'm authentic. And I post wins. I post losses. I'm not phony.

I think I'm number two, of behind the 800 pound gorilla D. Lucky the man and the myth and legend but I'm number two on TikTok now I think and one of the top on the others and yeah I post my wins, I post my losses. I think I lost a lot less than most but I definitely have lost.

I'd like to see a little face off between you and D. Lucky. I would like to see a little face off with me and D. Lucky. I'd be quite interested to see how that would play out. What would you... Oh, okay. Here's a call-out. I want to know the stakes. What would you challenge him?

Like 10K for an hour? How do you mediate that? I'm so curious. Okay, so I started this thing Vegas Matverse. The reality is, in my opinion, on slots, it's a chip, it's an algorithm, you push the button, it's predetermined It's an algorithm. You push the button. It's predetermined.

And you can have all the hocus pocus that you want. But the reality of it is, is that, you know, whatever game you're playing, you're going to get the result that you're going to get. There's a certain percentage that the machine holds back, et cetera, et cetera. But what I do is Vegas Madverse, just kind of a fun thing. Like I did it with Houston from Houston's Hot Chicken and Royalty Exotic Cars. And so we did a half hour, and whoever won the most or lost the least won a prize. I own a lot of properties in Costa Rica and Colombia, so I offered a week in one of my penthouses, and he offered me three days in a Lamborghini Huracan. And so it was really fun.

It was a half hour, jamming around. We were at Red Rock and playing. And he won. Wow. Yeah, it was amazing. He was so smart the way he did it. And it was really good content. And a YouTube video is getting edited right now.

Nice. So I would do just, you know, we could just do the same kind of thing. Half hour and then whatever the prize is, maybe we could do something for like a Cartier bracelet dad to his collection. Why don't we do some charity? Why don't we do some charity why don't we do some charity give back man like just do like whatever the proceeds are you know whoever whoever whoever wins the least or wins the most has to give back and whoever wins the least has to give more and match it or something i like the idea of doing great idea all right great is it true that slots are the worst edge um for the player i it's true senator no i it's actually i don't think that is true like um if you look at different some of the slots are

like wheel of fortune i think is a game that you know so universally adored right right but i bet the hold on average on that is probably something like seven eight percent or something huge number like i think the casinos can adjust those numbers but then if you play video poker on a good pay table you know and and those what does that mean explain that to me because i'm not um what does a good pay table mean how do you know what what the fuck that is great question so so if most people don't even look but if on every video poker table you go see pays okay and typically they adjust it on the the payout on the full house and the flush okay so on the game that i play which is bonus poker um i go to the machines where you get paid seven seven coins on a full house and five on a flush. But 95% of the machines, or 98% of the machines that you're going to see here in Vegas,

pay six coins on the full house, five on the flush, on bonus poker. What's the difference from that extra coin? Well, I think every single time, you know, you're playing five coins per line. I play 10 lines, okay? So every single time you get a full house, there's five coins, times up to 10 lines, it's 50. There's a multiplier. And it could be a pretty dramatic difference on every full house that you get on any hand.

And so that can adjust the percentage by maybe – I'm not like some mathematician. Some of these people are just like Rain Man level people that know the math. So forgive me. That's not me. I'm the talent. I push the buttons. I tell the jokes. Got the sexy fingers. That's all good. Yeah, that's it. Do your the i'm the talent i push the buttons you know i tell the jokes got the sexy fingers yeah that's it these babies manicure um so what are you betting like ten

dollars a hand 15 20 a hand i average like a hundred dollars a hand damn so what okay so then let me backtrack here when you go into a typical night what's your like you walk in you're like all right i got 10k tonight well if you follow me on Twitch, on Vegas. Wait, didn't they ban gambling? Oh, people say that, and they think that. But Twitch banned, like, the Bitcoin casinos. Kind of like, I don't know, I don't want to be degrading to any other casino. But, no, they don't mind if you're, like, legit playing.

But if you're shilling for some offshore casino. So that was banned. But, no, Twitch loves us. And we're really trending on Twitch. We have a huge live audience. We probably stream three, four nights a week live. People like to see that. So in answer to your question, Ari.

I do like to see that. A typical night. I usually go in with like $10,000. And I don't like to lose more than $10,000 in a day. And a lot of times we'll lose everything. And then sometimes we'll win a lot. And but so Twitch, you can stream live gambling, just not the online, like Bitcoin casinos. That's my understanding. Got it. And what are your favorite casinos to gamble in?

That's a good question. You know, it's funny. And I'd love to talk to any of these casino owners, because I believe that the TikTok people and the YouTube people and the Twitch people are the new television stars. I mean, it's really getting funnier. I walk around. I got recognized in the San Jose, Costa Rica airport, the Medellin airport, the Mexico City airport. I mean, every casino I go into, it's, you know, pictures, blah, blah, blah. They're like, it's like being on TV, right? And I think the casinos eventually are going to, and they are starting to do some strategic partnerships with influencers and so forth.

But for the endorsement and whatnot, I have no such deals. I haven't had a challenge getting a hold of any casino executives that are willing to do anything other than protect their jobs and say stupid stuff. I'd love to do some intelligent slot tournaments, promotions, et cetera, but I haven't met that person. But I'm just building my brand and my follower count is like up to almost a half a million across all platforms and growing by thousands a day. So with that qualifier, I mean, my favorite casino in Vegas right now on the Strip is Resorts World. Yes.

I love Resorts World. Say it again. I mean, say it again. I love the High Limit Room. I think that it's beautiful. So clean. It's absolutely, it's just such a fresh breath. A fresher breath.

Fresh – yeah, my tongue is twisted. That. It's nice when you walk in there. Everybody's got a smile on. Everything's clean. You walk through and you feel like you're going to win. I mean, what they do right. And I mean, nothing against any other casino.

You asked me my favorite. Like if I could only go to two casinos in town, for example, I live out in Henderson and I love the Green Valley Ranch High Limit Room. And the thing that's the biggest for me is I'm an old dude. I'm 59 years old. I've been coming to Las Vegas since like the early 80s, you know. And I remember when, you know, your host, you know, with a stroke of a pen could give you anything that you wanted. It wasn't all computerized.

Don't work like that anymore, buddy. You know, it was like, hey, Mr. M, you know, blah, blah, blah. Like it was old school Vegas. And so at the Green Valley Ranch, they serve great quality beverages. You know, they got the same girls, Joey and Kelly, been working there forever. Laura runs the slot room. They know your name. They know the people. They're glad to see you. That's where the locals go. They pay your hand pays fast, or you can get key off your own hand pays. So I love the GVR Highlight My Room. I go there the most. And whenever I go to the Strip, I go to Resorts World because of, like you say, the ambiance is beautiful.

But again, it's service. The slot techs are happy when you win. They're not just bothered that they have to give you hand pay. The girls are all gorgeous. Before you can even get your first dollar out, you already have a drink. And I'm not talking like some bullshit, Drake. I'm talking you go sit down at a high limit table, watch how fast the girls swarm you and ask you, do you want class azul? Do you want 42? I'm like, you go sit down at a high limit table, watch how fast the girls swarm you and ask you, oh, do you want

like Casa Azul? Do you want 42? Do you, I'm like. Yeah, they're friendly. They're, they're, they're, so the service is great. Ambience is great. They have great pay tables. They have, they have some of the best slots there and they, and I just love that place. They have some great restaurants. Nightlife. Shout out Zouk.

Shout out Zouk. Definitely a fun place to be. Best, my best host is definitely at Resorts World. A guy named Jake. Give him a shout out. First and last name. Shout out Zook. Shout out Zook. Definitely a fun place to be. My best host is definitely at Resorts World. A guy named Jake. Give him a shout out. First and last name. Shout him out. Yeah, Jake from... How many knows last name?

Dick. But I mean, he's Jake, the dude who always responds to texts. Hey, shout out Jake at Resorts World. Whoever you are, wherever you are. God bless you, kid. There's only one Jake. I mean, he's the man. Jake from State Farm?

Yeah. Oh, the dad jokes. Now we're going to look up Jake from Resorts World. He's awesome, man. Are you banned from any casinos? No. No, not banned. So you're not banned like Mickey?

No. I mean, they'd be crazy to ban me. I'd lose. Okay. I don't know why they would ban me. Now, that's an interesting topic is the whole thing about streaming in casinos. Is it allowed? Is it not allowed?

I mean, the reality is every single person has a phone. It's not like the old days when Frank Sinatra was there with Marilyn Monroe and they didn't want someone taking a picture or whatever the reasoning was. Now, the reality is you're on camera 24-7. Everyone's filming. There's nothing they can possibly do to stop it. You can't film at MGM properties, right? I heard that they've repealed that because it's ridiculous. Oh, they repealed it?

Well, listen, the thing behind it is that they don't want you to film for two reasons. One, because of privacy. Exactly. One, because of privacy. You don't know who you're in the casino with. Some people are not comfortable with that, and it is an issue because you have to give your consent to be filmed. That's one. Two, I hear, and I don't know the validity of this,

like if you walk up to a roulette table and you're filming like this and you get close to the table, they'll tell you no. And I've heard from pit bosses is that because they've had people come in that can do interference with the tables or the balls or whatever, the electronics, they can kind of fuck with it. I don't know the validity of that. Well, I do. Hit me. I like that

response. That's what I want to know. I don't know shit about shit, dude. All I know is what somebody told me. All right, well then, just listen. I'll just get Ari Gold. Ari Gold, when I first met you, I thought they made entourage about this guy. And I was sitting down, and I was like, you're the dude they made entourage about. I'm And I would sit down and I'm like, you're the dude they made entourage about. I'm just playing with you.

You're absolutely right, Ari. You cannot film on the tables. But let's speak to slots, which is my expertise. If you're filming just yourself and your slot machine, right? That's your own property. And you're not getting anyone else. So I think what would be really helpful is if they came up with some rules and that they're pretty much landing on as long as you don't film other people and interfere with their privacy.

But the reality is, of course, everyone's filming all the time anyway. And it's very, very, very, if not impossible to enforce. So why pick on the people who are doing things like hitting – the other day I was at the M. I hit my second Delt Royal flush and I shouted out the M Resort. I said, man, this place is amazing. On the same machine, I've gotten two Delt Royal flushes. The odds on this are just astronomical. When I played,

I was playing the other day at M. I was playing a Huff and More Puff machine. There was 30 people gathered around watching us play and film. People get inspired inspired they start playing bigger every machine around us was full you're encouraging you're encouraging people to actually get involved in the casino teaching like you look at d lucky he he plays uh the the the top dollar

in the pinball or probably the machines he plays the most whoever manufactures those games the the if you look at the play from when d lucky started how much those machines have gotten played it's gone through the ceiling he should be getting a royalty on those games equity i mean they should give him equity and and i think that that's going to happen so right now i'm just building my followers building my brand but the casinos will be coming to us and say begging us to come yeah you're bringing business so some offer us you know free you should get a free room at the least i mean i get all that anyway okay you know and and yeah so good great questions but it's not it's not they haven't landed on a regulation most of the places are don't film any other people just film your machine right and and then you're cool what's the most you've won personally and

what's the most you've seen someone win um i my biggest win is pin on my tiktok uh eighty eight thousand dollars wow i got a um a 12x royal um on a two dollar denom machine at resorts world wow and it was an eighty eight thousand dollar win on an ultimate x machine uh my second biggest was $78,000 at the M. Same thing, a multiplied dealt Royal on UltimateX. And then yesterday, when I was at Resorts World, someone won $530,000 on a video poker machine. No way. Yeah, got dealt four aces with a kicker. Holy crap. And do they give you the money like right away or do you have to? I didn't watch how the 530 got paid out, but the 88, yeah, it's cool. They give you like a little bag, a little bank bag.

So I got a Resorts World bag full of money. That's sick. Yeah, it was really nice. What was it like gambling with Bryce Hall? That was a crazy night. I mean, recently Bryce Hall had that night where he went to the club and they said he got arrested, but I talked to him. I don't think he actually did.

I think he got taken by security or something. Nice kid. I didn't think he actually did. I think he got taken by security or something. Nice kid. I didn't know who he was. You know, he's not really my generation, but he couldn't have been more pleasant. We gambled. He was good vibes. We went out with a bunch of his peeps. We had dinner.

It was loads of fun. He's great vibes. Nice. It was during AVN. We went to AVN with him and walked around, and yeah, it was really good. I was a little pissed at him. Bryce, you never posted that video. Oh.

Yeah, he said he was going to post a video. He never did. So I'm a little bit of, you know, hurt my precious feelings. Yeah, you would have gained some followers from that one. Yeah, but you know, share the love, Bryce. Come on. What other celebrities have you played with? Not a lot.

I think that will happen. Again, I'm doing the Vegas vegas mad verse you know that thing and i i love your idea already about giving the money to charity which is what i'm going to do from now on i love that cool so we did the first was houston who's a local celebrity houston's hot chicken which is blowing up great chicken is that the one in the cosmo or is that a different one different one okay um and they've got like 11 stores already franchises and and then uh he also has a royalty exactexotic car, so we did it, and we had a prize.

He was going to give me a Lambo for three days versus a week in one of my Costa Rica penthouses, and I lost. It was a half-hour gambling session, so I'm open to challenge any celebrity that likes to gamble. We'll do a half-hour. Whoever, you know, you take like $5,000 or $10,000,

gamble on whatever slots you want. Here we go. Go. There's my 10.000, gamble on whatever slots you want. All right, here we go. Go. There's my 10. There's my 10. Count me in. All right. Me and Ari Gold, the founder of Entourage.

That's it. If I lose, I'm out, guys. All right. Let's do it. That'd be fun. So Ari will be my next level. But I haven't gambled like- Make me rich.

Let's go. Make me rich. Let's go. I'm begging you. Let's dive into how you made your money because I feel like viewers can benefit from this. You just do the gambling for fun now. How did you make your millions? You know, interesting, I think, interesting story. So I was in a weird profession, network marketing, you know, one of those like no one understands it, everyone hates it,

whatever, blah, blah, blah. But I'm in the Network Marketing Hall of Fame. I was really good at it, you know, making friends, you know, and recruiting them, showing Network Marketing Hall of Fame. I was really good at it, making friends, and recruiting them, showing them how to make money. I found everybody wants to make money. But sadly, what happens is the wrong people get into network marketing, people who don't have any friends. So they're broke, friendless. They're like, yeah, I'll join network marketing because anyone can and it's free. And then they wonder why they can't be successful. It's because no one likes them. But if you have a network and people who like you and you market to that network, like if you have a skin cream that makes your skin look wonderful or, you know, vitamin that you take to make whatever that makes you feel good or something makes you sleep or whatever, it's usually products

like that. And your friends like you and you say, Hey man, I, you know, I'm, I love this. And they go, well, yeah, I'll take it. Like, that's what, that's how influencer marketing works. You know, Alex Earl, you know, she uses this, whatever. And then everyone wants to do it. Network marketing is just that. But I started doing it in 1984. Okay. And, and just had over a million people in my team, sold over a billion dollars of products.

And I retired in 2015. Wow. And then got into real estate. I did a lot of personal development. I worked for Tony Robbins for a minute. And he's awesome. And yeah, so I just did that. And then now real estate and then gambling, which started off as just something to do for fun, has become a new career, which I'm super stoked on.

So you made your money in network marketing and the real estate is just to preserve your wealth. Yeah, I'd say that's a good... My cash flow all through my working years was from network marketing. Got it. And then real estate was what I invested in and then now i have like the airbnb thing going on you know all the different in uh columbia columbia costa rica and then um i have one in minnesota and then also in arkansas i have like a ranch with a bunch of cabins on it that's sick

why did you choose the international markets for airbnb i mean i'm not that strategic like i was thinking before i came on the podcast i'm like you, you know, like I don't have a jet. I'm not a billionaire. I'm just a kind of wealthy guy that's had an amazing life. Like I do whatever I want. Like the only thing I don't have is a jet. Ari knows this because we flew commercial back from – We literally just ran into each other yesterday coming back from Medellin.

I'm looking at the airport. I'm like, I know this white guy right here. Okay, what's up? So I did well, you know, but I think if I had, you know, had it all to do over again, you know, probably by this time in my life I'd be embarrassed if I didn't have a jet. You think a jet's a good purchase?

I just think it's a cool purchase. Or is it like a flex? I just hate, no, I just hate waiting in line and all that kind of stuff. I mean, clearly it's a flex, but it's such a convenience. I mean, it would be so cool, but it's, you convenience. I mean, it would be so cool. But you've got to have, and I think you've got to have probably north at least $50 million or $100 million before a jet makes sense to buy one. But I don't know because I don't have one. A good jet's at least $30 million.

So yeah, you're going to want at least $100 million. But I mean, I know I had a friend who had a really sick jet that I think he paid like $4 million for that was nice. Which jet? Was it a Hawker? No, it was like a Falcon or something like that. I don't know. We flew to Hawaii on it.

Like I say, I'm not a jet guy. I love them. But my point being is if you're younger and you get into personal development, I mean, if you really go after it and you work hard and you have big goals and you're not a screw-up, like I did way too much drinking and partying and goofing off i mean again if i could go back and be 25 and do it if i wasn't a billionaire by the time of my age i'd be ashamed of myself like with the opportunity that's out there today yeah it's my advice kids don't do drugs don't drink work hard become a tiktok celebrity become a tiktok celebrity get a. So you did a billion in sales.

I mean, how did you grow that network? Was it just all in person or were you calling people? I mean, okay, one, it's amazing. You know, those numbers are real. Like if we went and we got five people and we brought them back here tomorrow and we said, hey, guys, you each go bring five people back here tomorrow. There'd be 25 people the next day. And then if you said, hey, you 25 go bring five the next day, it'd be 125. 6, 25, 31, 25, 15,000, 75,000, whatever. It's ridiculous.

And it's just you've got to get five. Now, here's the thing. If you get five, we get five, we get five, we get five, we get five, the numbers don't lie. It becomes tens and thousands of people. They all spend $100 a month. It becomes huge amounts of money. The challenge is it sounds so easy. One, most people can't get anyone to join them in anything. And then they, what happens is they go and they invite a bunch of people to come in, join them in their deal. And they sound like idiots. They don't know what they're talking about. And their friends just like, don't pitch

me on your stupid pyramid scheme. And they never get anyone. And then they go and they say, this doesn't work. And then they quit. And then they blame the industry when in the reality is is that they didn't really know what they were doing and no one likes them or they don't know anyone yeah and they have no influence so all i did was i just talked i was a maniac like in my 20s before the internet i would go to the if i didn't have anyone else to talk to if i had talks all my friends i'd go to the freaking mall i'd walk around nordstrom try on pants talk to people, if I had talked to all my friends, I'd go to the freaking mall. I'd walk around Nordstrom, try on pants, talk to the people selling. I mean, I was just, I would talk to anyone and I just hustled. Same thing in anything. I worked my ass off and I taught until I found a couple of good people and taught them to do the same thing. And then, and then the math works just

like with, with gambling. It's all math. The people who win at gambling are super disciplined and they understand the math of what it is that they're doing. So, yeah, it was just – and then the internet hit in the late 90s. I was one of the early guys at MySpace. That's crazy. We started coming up with a way of generating leads online, and I was really early into the online lead gen space. And they used to call me the king of leads back in the day. And I think I still own leadkings.com.

But yeah, so in 2000s and stuff, I started doing a lot of stuff with online and generating my own leads. Nice. Yeah. But mostly it was just word of mouth, face to face. You make a friend, then make a sale. It's not that complicated. Nice.

Just don't be annoying. That's the advice. If anyone is in that space, the network marketing space, if you just do it right. Let's say that Ari was in the sunglass network marketing business, and they're like, God, those are cool sunglasses. He's like, oh, yeah, here, let me send you my link. But it's not like, oh, man, you you gotta buy these sunglasses. That's weird. But if you're just normal about it and someone asks you about something, you know, so that's... So it's similar to affiliate marketing almost. It's affiliate marketing, influencer marketing, it's all the same things. All marketing is the same. At the end of the day, nobody wants to be told what to buy.

But it pays... The thing about network marketing that's interesting is it pays... It's like affiliate marketing with a way better pay plan. Right. You think about it like if you had an affiliate link and you send your affiliate link, you get paid, just you, you know? But if like everyone who ever bought, you also got paid on their sales and their sales and their sales, anyone with the brain that understood it would say, I'd rather have multiple levels of compensation and capture all the sales, all the ripples that are a result of

my efforts. But because of people, of haters, they say the ripples that are a result of my efforts. But because of haters, they say, oh, that's a scam. People have definitely ruined it. Let's put it like that. By being annoying. Some of the products suck too, honestly. Yeah, or if they're overpriced.

No, I'm not defending that industry. It was a total pain in the ass. Like, I mean, I'm so glad I'm done with it. It got inflated quick. But it is, if you have something that's good, that's not a ripoff and you're not annoying, it's a great- Like insurance.

That's been huge. Yeah. You know, that's been huge. But it's a good way of marketing products. Word of mouth. It's just structured word of mouth is all it is. Absolutely. But what's most important is gambling in Vegas.

And TikTok. And TikTok these days, yeah. Any closing thoughts for the crowd, where people can find you? I mean, I'm Vegas Matt on everything. And if you see me out in Mountain Casino, hit me up. We'll give you a Vegas Matt no shit sandwich key chain.

It's funny how these little words, like I'm like, I'll get a jackpot and then it won't be what I want. Oh man, that was a shit sandwich. Or like I quote Animal House, the movie, and I'll be like, is it over? And I'm like, was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? And that's a John Belushi line. And people are always commenting.

They're like, the Germans didn't bomb Pearl Harbor. Japan did. And so I have all these little sayings. And just, yeah, if you're following me and enjoy my content, come up, say hello, and let's have fun and gamble responsibly. That's true. That's a great one to weed it out. It's a bad one.

I know we're out of time, but gambling is like a gnarly addiction. And if you tend to be addicted, don't gamble because you're going to lose. Almost everyone loses. There are people who make money gambling, but very, very, very few. The advice I'd like to put people with is don't ever gamble more than you can afford to lose. So, you know, set yourself up with the same money you're going to go out to a movie theater with or something. You're going to go on a date

with a girl or some shit. You're going to spend $500, $600. Take that exact money that you would spend normally anywhere else. Spend it on the tables. That's all that you need to do. Anytime you're going outside that reach, it's, you know. We think about some guys go out and spend 10,000 bucks on a table at, you know, at a club.

Yeah, but those guys better be making fucking two, three million a month to be spending like that. And if they're not, then that's their, but listen, that's to each his own. Yeah. I think the better point to leave it off on is, you know, gamble within the means.

Sure. That you can handle. That's all. Where can people find you, Ari? Ari Gold, E-T-H. All right. This is Sean Mike Kelly on Instagram. Thanks for tuning in

to the Digital Social Hour. I'll see you guys next week. Enjoy. Thank you.