Digital Social Hour - The $100K Tax Mistake Most Content Creators Make | Daniel Mac DSH #1038

Episode Date: December 31, 2024

🚨 The $100K tax mistake content creators are making - revealed! 💰 Daniel Mac spills the tea on the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly. 🎙️   Discover the shocking tax write-offs that could... land you in hot water with the IRS! 😱 From luxury cars to mansion parties, Daniel shares insider secrets on what's legit and what's not. Plus, get the scoop on:   • The truth about OnlyFans creators and taxes 💸 • How to navigate brand deals and sponsorships 🤝 • The real story behind viral car interviews 🚗   Don't miss out on this game-changing episode packed with valuable insights for every content creator! Hit play now and join the conversation. 🔥   🔔 Subscribe for more eye-opening stories and industry secrets on the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! New episodes drop weekly on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube. #ContentCreator #TaxTips #DigitalSocialHour #DanielMac   #loweryourbusinesstaxes #makemoneyonline #taxreturnmistakes #contentcreation #deductionstrategies   CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 00:30 - Daniel Mac’s New Podcast 02:58 - Common Jobs of Supercar Owners 05:06 - Insights from Daniel's Interviews 06:00 - Daniel’s Future Plans 10:17 - Your Car Collection 11:22 - Tesla Overview 13:38 - Best Cars for Depreciation 15:39 - Tai Lopez Mansion Party 17:06 - Criticism from OnlyFans Interviews 18:37 - Jason Nash's Earnings 20:41 - Spending the Day with Jack Doherty 22:40 - Jake Paul Discussion 24:39 - Neon Cars 27:30 - Running and Fitness 28:07 - Steve Will Do It Ban 28:59 - Video with Joe Biden 30:44 - Cannonball Run Insights 33:11 - Adrenaline Junkie Lifestyle 35:20 - What's Next for Daniel 35:44 - Outro   APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: jenna@digitalsocialhour.com   GUEST: Daniel Mac https://www.instagram.com/itsdanielmac   LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/

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Starting point is 00:01:13 conservative. She was like for you, you can do it because you're a car creator. Good luck if you're like just a regular small business owner trying to write off like a Lamborghini Aventador. The IRS is gonna be like no. I know people that try to write off their watches. I'm like dude. Yeah, yeah, exactly. All right guys, Daniel Mack here today. Thanks for coming on, man. What's up, man? Thanks for having me. It's cool to have another fellow podcaster on. Yes, sir. Very cool, dude. Yeah, you started the show recently, right? Yeah, within like the last year or so, but it's not to your scale, I'd say for sure. Yeah, you're more picky with your guests I know it's just periodic. Yeah, it's like, you know this month when I travel a lot
Starting point is 00:01:49 So yeah, yeah, what made you branch off because your specialty was short form before that, right? Yeah, so what made you want to branch off into more long form stuff? I mean, I think like obviously I asked you what they do for a living short little clips They're like a minute long usually in between a light cycle on Rodeo Drive So I really like wanted to dive into like how people become wealthy and they like more like a longer format essentially, because a lot of people are wanting that. Right.
Starting point is 00:02:10 And it makes complete sense. I feel like as compared to like, oh, I got rich with like these quick little things like you can't really get into the nitty gritty with it unless you're like doing a long, long interview. Yeah, because you have one question and then the video is over. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:22 Yeah. And literally, like I said, like on this light cycles on Rodeo, like I had like 40 seconds. I'm like damn. Oh, so you would literally go to the traffic light and ask people? Yeah, yeah. Like the main, like there's a main for people
Starting point is 00:02:31 that don't live in Los Angeles. There's like the main like area of Rodeo obviously. Okay. And like that's where all the rich people are. And I do it in between like the major light. Wow. And it's almost a minute. I'm like, damn, if it was a little longer,
Starting point is 00:02:43 maybe I'd be able to monetize better on TikTok. That's wild. But yeah. What percentage of people actually answer the question versus just drive off? And it's almost a minute. I'm like, damn, if it was a little longer, maybe I'd be able to monetize better on TikTok. But what percentage of people actually answer the question versus just drive off? Most people do. I got to be getting a lot of people were confused before people started asking me what they do. Like now even a lot of people they'll be like, oh, you got me on a day. I'm like, that wasn't me.
Starting point is 00:02:58 It's like, it's like become like a whole thing. But I'd say like 90% of people answer the question are very friendly because on this rodeo driver, like they want to show off their Ferrari windows down, but like one percent of the time people like yell at me. Really? They scream and get like super pissed off. Yeah, they're
Starting point is 00:03:14 probably like super private people, I'd assume. Yeah. I want views. I'd say and I'd be like, I wouldn't bother them, but they're on this strip, which is like the show off strip. So like I don't go to people at like a grocery store and bother
Starting point is 00:03:24 them. I do it like in an area like with their windows down like on a Ferrari like I'm like it's not yeah has someone ever told you to take the video down all the time yeah really although if people are friendly on site and they're just like oh please don't film me I'm like oh sure and I delete it right there but if they're like really rude and by the way those are great clips like I used to hate it but now I'm like oh yeah keep yelling at me I'm like okay oh yeah, keep yelling at me. I'm like, okay, like screw you,
Starting point is 00:03:47 like if you're gonna be a huge dick. Yeah, it's wild that people could get that triggered so easily. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, like it's not like I'm, I try to be as professional and friendly as possible, and it's just like, hey man, you have a cool car, and yeah, but some people get angry.
Starting point is 00:03:59 Yeah, what was the most, what have been the most common job professions you've seen from these people driving luxury supercars? So I'd say the number one most common thing that all these wealthy people have is that they own real estate. Almost 99% of people in these Ferraris that I interview own real estate,
Starting point is 00:04:15 and 90% of them probably own their own business. So that's where you get the upper echelon of Bugatti owners. There's a cap on how much you can obviously make when you're working for someone else. Right. I would say about a third of people I interview still do have like nine to five jobs, but they're usually in tech, law or engineering. OK. And those are kind of like the main like mostly stem things. But then there's also some spinoff careers that are pretty interesting, like plumbing. There's a lot of plumbers out there that make a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Really? Like a lot of the trade school stuff, like electricians. And then I see a lot of people that do consulting and stuff like that. Damn, plumbers are driving supercars? Plumbers are driving supercars. Yeah, like sometimes crazy supercars. It's like a very like in-demand industry that I think a lot of people don't realize can make you a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:05:04 I guess if you think about it, the margins are really good on plumbing. Yeah, yeah. It's a dying very like in demand industry that I think a lot of people don't realize can make you a lot of money. I guess if you think about it, the margins are really good on plumbing. Yeah, yeah, it's a dying thing too right now. Like there's like a plumbing shortage. Like there's all these old people are dying, all the boomers basically. And then after COVID, a lot of them didn't go back to work. So right now, like if you wanna be a trade school person,
Starting point is 00:05:20 there's like a huge gap of young people that need to fill it. I could see that, because our generation is not as hands on as boomers. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Like on our phones and stuff. It's going to be like a two hundred thousand dollar job here. Like the next it's like the new thing basically. Two hundred K years. Pretty good. Yeah, yeah. People are making like one like already.
Starting point is 00:05:35 People are making like one hundred and fifty thousand. If you want to be like a plumber. Yeah. I mean, all they're really doing is their time because they don't need to buy that much equipment. Yeah. It's super profitable as like a business. If you own like a plumbing company in all of the times, these people own plumbing companies to like they'll be plumbers, make their own thing. And then they are making like millions of dollars a year.
Starting point is 00:05:53 I might have to invest in one. Sometimes it's the unsexy businesses. Yeah, totally. Yeah, totally. I mean, that's where I get a lot of wealthy people is like they are the ones that get ready for Las Vegas style action at bed MGM the king of online casinos enjoy casino games at your fingertips with the same Vegas strip excitement MGM is famous for when you play classics like MGM Grand Millions or popular games like blackjack Baccarat and roulette with our ever-growing library of digital slot games, a large selection of online table games, and signature BetMGM service, there is no better way to bring the excitement and ambience of Las Vegas home to you than with BetMGM Casino. Download the BetMGM Casino app today. BetMGM and GameSense remind you to play responsibly.
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Starting point is 00:07:02 Make like the light filaments and like a thing or like something that's like a small little part like this little screw right here. Yeah. The billionaires that make crazy money. Have any of the interviews really stuck out to you, inspired you in a certain type of way? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:14 I mean, I've gotten a lot of people that just have like very unique. I think like the biggest thing I'd say is you can make money doing pretty much anything. Like I have people that make millions of dollars like selling like ice to companies and you're like, oh, someone's got to do it. So I'd say like, it's kind of interesting because you, you know, you think that there's like the main few things that you have to do to make money, but really you can make a lot of money doing pretty much anything that you set your mind to. And the more niche is kind of the more money if you're like able to capitalize on that.
Starting point is 00:07:41 Yeah. I mean, you really can look at how you're making money. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's like I try to explain it to people that are older. I'm like, yeah, I asked people they do for a living for a living. And it's like a very like post covid Gen Z job. Yeah. And now I'm asking you how you make a living. Yeah. It's like a loop. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:08:01 That's funny, man. Yeah. Do you have plans to start other businesses, though? Yeah, I'd say, you know, people ask me for like my master plan and I wish I kind of had something, you know, more, I'd be doing it right now if I had that on site. But yeah, I think diversifying is something that like content creators have to do.
Starting point is 00:08:20 I think people get a little too complacent that are in the content sphere. And then they just kind of fizzle out. And obviously I can't ask what they do for a living forever. I think people get a little too complacent that are in the content sphere and then they just kind of fizzle out and obviously I can't ask what they do for a living forever, and I'm surprised it's been going on for five years almost now It's kind of insane. But uh yeah, like I do like yacht content I do like mansion tours like cribs style videos like whatever I can do to kind of like make My career as long as possible because I know it's not gonna last forever
Starting point is 00:08:42 That's cool to see you have that mindset and adapt because there are a lot of people copying you now, right? Oh, yeah, there's millions. I see random ones every day. It's kind of like a sub genre now. Like there's some other people that do like other types of man on the street, like how much money like that kind of genre. But yeah, they're everywhere. So that's why I started showing my face a little more in videos.
Starting point is 00:08:59 At the beginning, I didn't show my face for like a full year. I remember that. Yeah, like I was just like not a camp. I just accidentally blew up by doing it. So yeah, like my first video for a whole year, people didn't even know face for like a full year. I remember that. Yeah. Like I was just like not a camp. I just accidentally blew up by doing it. So yeah, like my first video for a whole year, people didn't even know what I looked like. I was like, I don't want to have my face. Right. Were you just shy or insecure at the time?
Starting point is 00:09:14 Yeah. Yeah. Like I just didn't want to, I just wasn't into content. Like my first video I posted on TikTok, it got 50 million views. Holy crap. Zero followers. Your first one. First one ever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:23 And then, because I wouldn't have stuck with it. I just. Your first one. First one ever. Yeah. And then because I wouldn't have stuck with it. I just had a funny concept. I'm like, let me ask them what they do. It's kind of funny and kind of interesting. And then my second video got like 50 million views again. Damn.
Starting point is 00:09:33 And then my third video got like 70 million views or something around there. So then I got a million followers within a week on TikTok, like within like six days. Crazy. And I was like, fuck. And people are like, yo, this guy kind of sounds like you. That's me. So yeah, it was completely random. Crazy and I was like fuck and people are like yo this guy kind of sounds like you So yeah it was completely random and it took me about a year to be able to be like comfortable in front of the camera and also to like
Starting point is 00:09:52 Take like claim of this trend isn't yeah, be like I'm the one that started it It's such a simple idea, but you really broke the mold because most people don't talk about finances openly. Yeah, exactly It's more so of an American thing I've tried to do this obviously in like England and stuff and they're very you know is most people don't talk about finances openly. Yeah, exactly. It's more so of an American thing. I've tried to do this obviously in like England and stuff and they're very, you know, it's not as flashy, especially if you go to like Miami, then you get even more flashy,
Starting point is 00:10:12 but it really depends on where you're at. And some people are more than willing to, but it's kind of taboo for some people. And I think it's kind of, you know, it's a mix. Yeah. What about Vegas? Have you hit that yet? Oh yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:23 I'm in Vegas and Miami a lot of the times and Vegas is kind of the same vibe where people are super flashy and like To show off. Yeah, that's what I live up. Okay. Yeah, I see people going to like the strip and doing interviews and just ask people your question Yeah, exactly. Yeah, the strip is a good spot for it. And there's a lot of there's a big car scene in Vegas But then it for example, like Miami is where people are showing off But like you go up a little north Boca Raton Like you have people there a lot more like quiet money. Older money, right?
Starting point is 00:10:48 Yeah, older money. It's like a money talks, wealth whispers kind of situation with like yacht owners out there. Very hard to actually crack a Bugatti owner and have them actually give me a real answer. And that's kind of like yacht owners too. They probably own yachts too. Those Bugatti owners are secretive.
Starting point is 00:11:04 They're very secretive, yeah. It's hard for me to get a video with a Kona's egg, Bugatti or Pagani owner that gives me a legit answer that's like, here's how I made my money. Normally they're joking around or they're like, oh, don't do much. And I'm like, literally tell me what you do. Yeah, because I feel like if you're dropping millions
Starting point is 00:11:20 on a car, you want to hold that information to yourself probably. Yeah, I'm sure a lot of them are in trouble with the IRS too. They don't like, I've like definitely had some sketchy incidents with like super car owners where they are not giving me enough and I'm like, yeah, like what do you do?
Starting point is 00:11:35 And they're like, oh, are you filming? What's going on? So I've gotten some people in trouble. Yeah, have you ever caused someone renting a car and they were trying to act like they owned it? Oh, all the time, yeah. I can tell immediately. I'm like friends with half the rental car people.
Starting point is 00:11:46 So in Miami, if somebody's in a Lamborghini Huracan, they're renting it. And in LA, if they're in like a Lamborghini Urus with like a group of people or like a G-Wagon with like four people, rental. Wow. It's pretty common. Like those are the rental cars.
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Starting point is 00:13:10 Yeah, there's like the classic rental cars and everyone in the car scene knows it too, but it's funny when they try to pass it off as their own because like I can tell immediately. I'm like I literally have driven this car that you're driving, like that's not yours. How's your car collection looking these days? It's getting up there. I got a Porsche GT4 which is awesome.
Starting point is 00:13:25 I wrapped it pink pig livery. It's like a classic livery. And then I just got a manual BMW 87. Let's go. So that's really cool. It's like the lowest mileage E30 is the brand in the country, like 30,000 miles. And then I have an Audi RSQ8. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:42 They call it the, well, I'd say it's the, it's a Lamborghini Urus without a body kit for a hundred thousand dollars. Oh. Because it's the same engine. See, I like that because I was looking at yours's, but they weren't 6,000 pounds, first of all. So, for tax write off. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:55 That's why I did it too. Oh, so yours is over 6,000. Yeah. I did it on like December 30th, 20th or something like that. Yeah, that's when I bought my G-Wagon. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, the RS Q8 is under the, it qualifies and same exact car for $150,000 less.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Wow. It's- Same quality and everything? I think it's better quality. It's just like, you're paying the Lamborghini tax. Same thing with an, like, I don't know if you're much of a car, but- I'm getting into it.
Starting point is 00:14:15 Yeah, the Audi R8 is the same car as the Lamborghini Huracan, same engine. It's just, you're not paying $100,000 for a Lamborghini badge, basically. Wow. It's, you know. That's fascinating, man. I used to love Teslas.
Starting point is 00:14:26 How do you feel about those? That's interesting. I had a Tesla. I just got rid of it about a year ago, or six months ago. Okay, I'll say like, the car scene, people hate Teslas. They're like shit on all the time.
Starting point is 00:14:40 But I'd say they're good cars if you're commuting within a city and you live at home and have a charger And if you don't they suck like I had mine and I I sold it Because I would have to come home from a trip and it'd be dead and then I had to tow it and it was a whole Process and I had to go charge it like it's just such a pain in the ass and you have such range anxiety That having like a like a real gas car. I'm so glad I'll never go back to you. Yeah, I'm getting rid of mine, man, because just for road trips,
Starting point is 00:15:07 you got to charge two to three times. Yeah, yeah, it's it's it only makes sense if you have like a family in a city and you're not taking it out and out and you have like a car you can take like your family in on like a long trip. Yeah, I was in a cyber truck last night, but yeah, I wasn't too impressed. Yeah, I think there I mean, I think cyber trucks get a lot of hate. Like I think it's kind of like the DeLorean of like now and I think it's easy to show on because it's kind of wild But I just wouldn't buy I wouldn't own one because it's not practical. Hmm, but they're interesting
Starting point is 00:15:35 I think they I definitely think Tesla gets over hated but then again, I sold mine. So yeah Well, just uh, I'm speaking from my own experience like the quality like I'll have shit like Break inside the car all the time. Yeah, come out of the socket. The build quality is terrible I mean Elon rushes everything out. Like the cyber truck is on like had like 30 different reiterations and recalls and I get recalls every month. Yeah. Yeah, it's definitely a thing So I feel like everyone kind of knows what they're getting into when you buy a cyber truck right now But I would not buy one. They are cool looking though, I'd say.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Yeah. The price did tank. How's the price holding up on other brands? Well, that's another thing too. I bought my car, I bought my Tesla at the worst time in 2021 because I just needed a car and I spent 50,000 on it and I just sold mine for 20,000 after two years. So 50% more than 50% percent appreciation in two years is crazy. All this all the EVs are like that, though.
Starting point is 00:16:29 They're all like the Mercedes EQS is probably the worst one. I think they were like one hundred and thirty thousand. Now they're going for like thirty thousand. Like something it's like the worst in the industry. But don't quote me on that. But it's something similar. And the like the Audi's don't do great with depreciation. Porsches are the best. I bought my Porsche for 150,000 before tax and I could sell it right now for 170,000.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Wow. So went up. Yeah. Like, and I bought it. I got lucky because I bought it from a dealer. I got like a good deal, but like Porsches will lose almost. You can sell them like 10 years later for like around the same price. Holy crap.
Starting point is 00:17:05 It depends on the model. But yeah. Are any of them above 6,000 pounds? No, no, I don't think so. Yeah. So that, you know, that'd be nice. But if you want a good car that won't depreciate that holds value the best Porsche without a doubt and they don't break. Yeah, I'm sure with the way you do your content, you might be able to write it off anyways.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Yeah, I do. Yeah, I write off my everything but the BMW is written off because I film with them so much and it's part of my brand. Right, that's smart. But I mean, I'd say it's a slippery slope. Like my CPA was a little more conservative. She was like, for you, you can do it because you're a car creator. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:38 But if it's not 6,000 pounds, good luck if you're like just a regular small business owner trying to write off like a Lamborghini Aventador. The IRS is going to be like, no. Yeah, I know people that try to write off like a Lamborghini Aventador. IRS is going to be like no. Yeah, I know people that try to write off their watches. I'm like, dude, yeah, exactly. Yeah, I know people that do it too. One of my old roommates. I'm like, he's going to get, if you're getting like suits, I think to a point, they say it's like ordinary and necessary to get. Yeah, maybe a couple of suits. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. But a Rolex is not ordinary and necessary unless you're like the king of France or something like that. Yeah. No. Yeah. There's some risky write offs, man. Yeah. People get crazy with it. I mean, like
Starting point is 00:18:13 you think you can be pretty like, you know, I guess not to guess, not to, I don't want to dive too much into tax stuff. I don't know who's listening in the IRS, but I make it. I'm pretty conservative with what I write off. Like it has to make sense. I'm not writing off like my mansion. Well, that's another, that's another thing. Actually. I don't, I don't do that, but you know, you can write off. I write off a certain, I write off my office and I'm looking into right now, the backyard, cause if you have events, like networking events and stuff, like tie,
Starting point is 00:18:41 tie, I was just at a tie, tie Lopez. Oh, how was that? I almost went to that. Oh yeah. It was, it was actually way cool. I filmed like a mansion tour there and I don't know, like I love him, but I thought it was gonna be more of like a crowd that's, what's the word I'm looking for? High end or?
Starting point is 00:18:56 No, like guru crowd. Oh yeah, yeah. Like cringe a little bit, but everyone was kind of sick and it was a fire party, so. You seem selective with that one. Yeah, no, it was actually good. And I think it makes sense because he really is writing off like he's, whatever he's doing is probably by the book, but exactly.
Starting point is 00:19:10 He throws these mansion parties every month. He's doing a Halloween one and he's making a lot of money being able to write off his a hundred million dollar mansion. Right. So yeah, I saw he made a video that he's, he's renting it, but he's figuring out ways to write off. Yeah. And he'll literally say that like in videos, like I am using this to write off. Like he clearly knows what he's doing. But some people get a little sketchy ways to write off. Yeah, and he'll literally say that like in videos, like I am using this to write off. Like he clearly knows what he's doing.
Starting point is 00:19:26 But some people get a little sketchy with the write offs in LA. Like they're like, let me write off my whole thing and just hang out there. Yeah, I'm good. I know the IRS is watching people like us. Yeah, no, exactly. I'm like definitely afraid of them.
Starting point is 00:19:38 So I pay my taxes like on time in full. I'm like, dot, dot, west, dot. They'd love to make a case out of someone with millions of followers. Oh, for sure. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, you'd be like the paraded around like, dot, dot, west of that. They'd love to make a case out of someone with millions of followers. Oh, for sure, yeah, exactly. Yeah, you'd be like the paraded around, like don't do this, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Some of the OnlyFans girls that I've filmed with are, it's crazy how little they know about taxes. They're like, I'm like, oh, so are you getting, like do you save up all your money? Obviously, you know, you have a CPA. And they're like, what's a CPA? And I'm like, how much money are you making? They're like millions of dollars.
Starting point is 00:20:03 And I'm like, that's crazy, you're screwed. Like like millions of dollars. And I'm like, that's crazy. You're screwed. Like, do you know you have to be a dad to? Oh, you're correct. Half of that. Yeah, yeah. So. Yeah. Do you get a lot of heat for that?
Starting point is 00:20:11 Cause I have them on the show and like, they get some hate, man. Oh, for sure. I did a lot more videos back in the day. Like we're at, now I don't really post videos for the most part where I interview only fans people because it kind of had an effect on my brand, I think a little bit. And I totally respect like their industry. Like I don't give a fuck. Like if someone
Starting point is 00:20:29 loses sponsors, all right. Yeah. Well, more so like I wouldn't know about it because somebody didn't say like, Hey, like I'm not doing this thing with you, but I can't do be like be doing like brand deals with Amazon if I'm having like, like, uh, on OnlyFans people on all the time. Not like I don't respect their industry or think it's interesting I was getting into like the nitty-gritty financials with them. Yeah and doing like vice style interviews But yeah, it's it just is what it is as far as advertisers. Yeah, make the rules there. I'm the same way I think it's interesting. It's totally different life than me. I'm in a relationship, but it does get used at the end of the day Oh for sure
Starting point is 00:21:00 Yeah like I interviewed like Riley Reid and a couple other people like skybury when they're coming up and I got banned from Snapchat for interviewing them. Yeah. And it was very professional. But obviously it was, you know, some of the stuff was pretty like, like not PG 13. But it was bleeped out. It's mostly me just asking like specifics of financials of like how much you get paid for the scene or that. But obviously, you know, or the scene or that, but obviously, you know, can't dive into that stuff too much. So I kind of separated myself from that about almost two years ago. And I'll still run into people that are driving Ferraris
Starting point is 00:21:30 that are 19. And I'm like, okay, obviously, either daddy's money or you do OnlyFans. So there's no escaping that in Los Angeles, but as far as like making a dedicated video, I tone it down a little bit there. That makes sense. How's the money on Snap?
Starting point is 00:21:42 Is it still decent? Yeah, it's dying though, compared to what it used to be in the heyday of like 2021. That used to be like my primary, primary income source and it got really saturated really quickly. And now I still do like weekly episodes on like, you know, there's two ways to make money. Obviously there's the show
Starting point is 00:22:00 and then there's the posting a hundred frames a day. I can't do that, man. That shit's crazy. Cause I'm verified and I could do that, but yeah, so time. I mean, I see people like, I won't name any names, but like I've gone and hung around people that do that as their main gig and holy shit, like you have no life. No life. It's also like, it feels like it's like not healthy at all.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Like I could see you doing it for like a couple of months, but like long-term. Yeah. I might, um, I might try it out, like low it out like low key like 30, 40 frames a day which is still crazy but some of these people are doing like 200 frames a day. Like the Dobroks out there, they're filming like 200 and like then they come up with their thumbnail and it's like a clickbait thumbnail at the end and they make money like they print money. Yeah it's a whole nother world and then you got the TikTok livers.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Oh yeah that's crazy. Jason Nash and a few others. Oh yeah well that's crazy. Jason Nash and a few others. Oh yeah, well that's yeah. That's a whole nother story. That's yeah, that's insane people. It's like e-begging. Yeah. No shade on Jason Nash, he's a nice guy actually.
Starting point is 00:22:53 But it is. But I feel like they'd admit that too. Yeah, I just can't see myself like asking for money like that, you know? Yeah, I don't even think, how is it, like I don't understand, some of these people that have 40 million followers are doing it every week and I'm like, is this to build a fan base
Starting point is 00:23:08 or is this to make serious money? Right. Do you know any insights on that? Like I don't know. I have no idea. I just know there's some people actually doing millions off it. Oh really, okay.
Starting point is 00:23:16 Yeah. That just seems like it would ruin your life too. Yeah, it's like. It's kind of cringe. I don't know. I'd rather just make, I want, if I'm making money, I want the people watching to like, you know, not lose anything Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, yeah, you're basically asking for a hand out. I want them to gain knowledge or something
Starting point is 00:23:31 Yeah, I want it to be a win-win I think it just yeah people that go to like Times Square and they're like shirtless and like doing weird things I think you know the NPC people that shit's crazy That's some like late-stage capitalism like I don't even know like scary gen alpha stuff Yeah, you spent a day with Jack Doherty, right? Yeah, or you sound before the car crash or yeah It's funny timing because I've posted the video of his collection tour like a mansion tour After the crash happened and every comment it went crazy because every comments like our IP the car was still intact Yeah, it was still intact. Yeah
Starting point is 00:24:03 He's an interesting dude. He, I mean, I mean, he knows he's controversial. Like I was like, I'm going to interview, like the tagline is like most controversial man on the internet or something like that. And he's a genius when it comes to making content on his own page where he recycles it and basically like acts like he's filming himself. Like he's good at like being a Jake Paul essentially and basically self like he's filming himself. He's good at being a Jake Paul essentially
Starting point is 00:24:25 and basically self-deprecating himself to make money. So he knows what he's doing. He's getting a rise out of people and he's been doing that since he's been eight years old. But I just find it interesting how good he is at basically getting hate. But it's not something that can last forever. What's the word I'm looking for?
Starting point is 00:24:41 It's not something that's sustainable long-term. And he knows that. When I was interviewing him, I'm like, it's kind of I'm looking for? It's not something that's sustainable long term. And he knows that like when I was interviewing him, I'm like, what do you like? It's kind of like in a, like a tour for him of like, Hey, like I'm trying to have people respect me now. But you can, you have to go all in on that. It's like the suicide forest thing with Logan Paul. Is that yeah. Yeah. Logan. Like after that, he kind of was like on his like new route of like, Hey, like respect me. Like I'm not going gonna do bullshit. I think Jack's getting to that point where he's Chris sent, he's like reaching that peak where he has all the views,
Starting point is 00:25:10 everyone hates him and he needs to now like switch it into, all right, I'm gonna calm down, I'm gonna be liked. And it's gonna take a couple of years. Yeah, he's got to channel that negative energy and the positive, right? Yeah. There's been a few people that have been able to pull it off.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Yeah, yeah. Jake Paul, bad baby. Oh yeah, it makes a lot of money. Lil Tay did to pull it off. Yeah. Yeah. Jake Paul, bad baby. Oh yeah. It makes a lot of money. Lil Tay did not pull it off. She just keeps getting hate. But yeah. Yes. It doesn't last forever.
Starting point is 00:25:31 Like people will eventually. I mean, yeah. Jake Paul is a rare. Yeah. Jake and Logan Paul rare. Those two are the best examples I could think of and bad baby. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:39 I mean, she made a lot. It's interesting because people think he's stupid and he's not stupid at all. Like he is a genius at being viral. And I just not the best kind of, I mean, it must be draining basically. It has to be. I can tell he does it for views. I don't think, like, was he actually like that off camera? He was really nice, honestly.
Starting point is 00:25:59 Like he was pretty friendly. You know, I did show up to his place to do an interview and he like was rolling out of bed and was like, I waited in the lot in his like, in his like basically living room for like an hour. So I was like, okay, that's kind of weird. And it was like 1 p.m. So I was like, okay, this dude just woke up. But it was weird because the tone of the interview is sad.
Starting point is 00:26:20 Like he was like depressed that people were hating on him so much. And I'm like, oh, maybe this is his new leaf to turn around. And then like the next week, he's like doing the whole thing where he crashes his car and telling people to film. And I'm like, dude, like you're not helping yourself here. But yeah, he was friendly. I was glad that he took the interview and whatnot.
Starting point is 00:26:35 I think he knew obviously I was going to be like somewhat critical of him. But I think the interview is pretty like financially. And I was just kind of getting to the bottom of like, yo, like you have people hate on you, like what is that like? And he was just kind of a little sad about it. Honestly like you have people hate on you like what is that like and he was just kind of a little sad about it honestly yeah yeah he's coming on this show soon actually but other than a day he's human like obviously he sees the comments and stuff and yeah yeah he feels it he's got a run a toll on him for sure sure it would fuck me up yeah I've gotten a lot better I used to really get let hate get to me
Starting point is 00:27:00 but now I'm like me too yeah pretty pretty hard show yeah exactly yeah yeah if you don't you wouldn't make it, I guess, in the industry. I mean, I was getting roasted last week for an interview I did. Oh, yeah. It didn't really affect me. Yeah, I guess I have a lighter... I get it a little easier than most creators because most of my stuff is the... Like I'm interviewing...
Starting point is 00:27:17 Obviously, you're interviewing people too, but like most of my camera is on the other person POV, and I'll just flash myself here and there. So it's easier to latch onto hating someone if they're on screen more. I'm kind of like a spotless lamb sometimes as far as like, oh, I didn't say it, they're the ones saying I'm interviewing them. So I think I get off a little easier,
Starting point is 00:27:34 but still, people, over four years of doing this, people fucking roast me. They'll find a way. Yeah, exactly. But yeah, I like it too now. I'm like, yeah, more engagement. Yeah, we'll see if Jack can turn it around. about neon you think he could turn it around? Uh, I think neon's a little better at well I don't know, you know him and I asked him about they have beef too. Oh, they do
Starting point is 00:27:53 I don't know if it was fake though. I was like, is this you can never tell without stuff Yeah, I don't know cuz at the hard rock they both got like gotten to a scuffle and that was a whole thing But I think neon I haven't met him He's supposed to go on my car rally last year and he ended up bailing last minute so I was like... Does he have a car? Yeah, he has a bunch of crazy cars. Him and his girlfriend Sam, Frank, I'm friends with. I don't know if their relationship was legit.
Starting point is 00:28:14 They announced it was fake so... Oh okay, that makes sense, yeah. Neon's not like America's top model. But yeah, yeah, I think a lot of that stuff's fake. Although you know what isn't fake is the, he did a video with Rick, what's his name? Rick Flair. Not Rick Flair.
Starting point is 00:28:31 He's a guy that, you can cut some of this if you want. But he's, it starts with an R. Rick, no, he's a white guy that raps. He has like grills or sharp teeth. Riff raff. Riff raff, yes. He did a video with Riff Raff where he's playing him in basketball,
Starting point is 00:28:46 but obviously he's in on it. We're like, oh, I challenge you to do a one-on-one like for your Rolex. Jack Doherty was telling me this. And he basically was under the assumption probably that it was all gonna be fake, but Riff Raff thought it was legit. So they were playing like a pickup game
Starting point is 00:29:01 and he just like fucking dunking on him and shit. And Riff Raff at the end is like, like yo like you owe me a fucking watch that's hilarious the whole thing he didn't even know I mean if you're gonna fake it at tell him before yeah yeah yeah no he was like I'm not faking shit yeah basketball is no joke for me if you're challenging me to basketball we're playing for something yeah yeah so I think I think he didn't get the memo which is hilarious Neon's actually decent I saw him shoot around a little bit. Oh, okay, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:25 You play any sports? I did like tennis. I did track and cross country. So no. Oh, I did track. You did? Okay. Yeah, what was your event? I did two mile, one mile. I was a miler.
Starting point is 00:29:33 Okay. Yeah, what was your best time? That was down there, 437. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Nothing crazy. That's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:29:41 I mean, like I told them not people that don't run and they're like, oh my God, but people that are crazy runners What was your time for 40? Okay. All right, so we were like 800 was my event. Oh, nice. I would do the mile, too Okay. Yeah 800 was my splits in the 800 were the same as my mile. Like I reached max speed at that point Yeah, right a 2 to 20 800 or yeah, my 800 was whatever my miles But was I could not go faster. Yeah, I was more of a two-miler and what was your two mile? I forget honestly, but 10. Yeah, it was more of a two mile. What was your two mile?
Starting point is 00:30:05 I forget, honestly. Probably a 10. Yeah, it was something around there. I should know, but it was so long ago. I remember my mile for sure. It was like double my mile at like 30, 40 seconds or something like that. I attribute a lot of my mindset to running.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Yeah. Long distance running. It's a fuck, I don't even know how the fuck I did it back then. I cannot do it now. Psycho, yeah, I don't know how. I go on a 10 minute run now and I'm like, I'm done. Yeah, yeah, no, I'm trying, I'm trying to get myself to run more.
Starting point is 00:30:29 I feel like it's better for my mental health and I'm like, fuck, this sucks. It is good. I just ran in the Nelk boys had a 5K, like a long ago in Vegas. Oh no way. And I hadn't run since high school. Oh wow. And I ran it.
Starting point is 00:30:40 I've done a couple videos of some of those guys. They're crazy. Steve will do it. I did a Ferrari giveaway with him. Oh, wow. He was high as you gave away a Ferrari No, I was getting paid by a company to Essentially like promo it and it was like they're a Ferrari they were giving It ended up kind of being like a sketchy company. I think maybe I don't know. I think I saw this I think somebody got it though. So when in LA got it, right? Yeah So I think it was legit there
Starting point is 00:31:03 But it was just the whole car I don't really do much of those car giveaway things anymore Unless it's legit a lot of liability probably for sure. Yeah, but Steve will do it hilarious, dude Yeah, he is funny man. I hope to get see him back on YouTube eventually. Honestly. Oh, yeah He's like ban ban on YouTube. They even feature him. I think no kids man, too Wow, they even have him in the background. They'll be like striked and given so if you had them on your channel You think you'd they take it down? Well, I put him in a short form video
Starting point is 00:31:28 But I think it's more so for them like cuz he's associated with their brand I feel like you could anyone could interview them and it'd be fine Yeah, but yeah that whole stuff's kind of crazy like having they had Trump on and they got like he's like it's not gonna be banned It's not gonna be taken down and it gets taken down like yeah had 10 million views too Yeah, that shit's crazy to me. I'm like, regardless of like who you support, it's just an interview. Yeah, it's just an interview.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Like I interview both sides. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But I clearly see they suppress one side. Oh, well, yeah. It's not even up to debate. Yeah, and certain topics they 100% like will not push. Yeah, like I would interview, like I did a video with Joe Biden.
Starting point is 00:32:04 The White House like called me up and they're like, hey, we want you to do Joe Biden. Yeah, they I would interview, like I did a video with Joe Biden, the White House like called me up and they're like, hey, we want you to do Joe Biden. Yeah, they just emailed me. I thought it was- What'd he pull up in? It was for the Detroit Auto Show, it was a Cadillac lyric, but they didn't tell me what he was gonna be in. It was like, he's gonna be here.
Starting point is 00:32:16 Like, like obviously it had to be screened. People are like, oh, did you just run up to him? Obviously not. Secret service patted you down. But it was like legit, like, he'll be here, roll on up. Which was crazy. I thought it was a scam though. I got an email from the White House that was like, obviously not. Secret service patted you down. But it was legit, like, you'll be here, roll on up. Which was crazy, I thought it was a scam though. I got an email from the White House that was like, greetings from the White House, the subject line.
Starting point is 00:32:30 And I was like, almost clicked the trash button. And then I'm like, let me look at the domain name. And it's like whitehouse.gov. I was like, what the fuck? So then I did an interview and they're like, we'd like to ask you about maybe doing an interview with somebody and I'm like, is this about that main man? And they're like, we can't say anything yet,
Starting point is 00:32:46 but then they did a crazy background check on me. Like the most insane one ever. I'm like, what do you need? They're like, your name and your hometown. I was like, that's it? And they're like, yeah, duh, where the fucking government? They got everything on you.
Starting point is 00:32:57 We know it's your fucking social security. I don't know if I would have passed out. I got arrested in high school. Oh, okay. Trespassing. Oh, you'd be fine. You think so? Trespassing, yeah. You had a clean record? Completely clean, yeah. Nice. Squeaky clean, I don't know how. No arrests school. Oh, okay. Trespassing. Ah, you'd be fine. You think so? Trespassing, yeah. You had a clean record? Completely clean, yeah. Nice.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Squeaky clean, I don't know how. No arrests. No arrests, yeah. Wow. That's insane though, because my friends that know me are like, you're that sort of dude. You're a DJ on the side. I've definitely been like blessed up by getting not arrested, yeah. I got my first speeding ticket like a year ago,
Starting point is 00:33:19 which is crazy too. That's pretty late. No, I know dude, I have like magical powers of speeding. I mean, there's all, there's some techniques. Yeah. You have the police radar. Yeah, of course. I have a crazy too. That's pretty late. No, I know dude. I have like magical powers of speeding. I mean, there's all, there's some techniques. Yeah. You have the police radar. Yeah, of course. I have a crazy one. So two mile radius, right?
Starting point is 00:33:31 Yeah. This shit's like, I do car rallies, like I said. I have one called the Legends Rally. Oh yeah, for those in death. It's like, we have like, people have like radar jammers on this thing. It's like, but we have like, there's like a hundred of us driving together
Starting point is 00:33:41 and like people have like apps. So you report it. And you guys are going fast. Oh, people are going crazy. Allegedly. Allegedly. Right. Yeah. I heard a one rally. My friend Tony Nino said you drive across the country and the first one there wins. Oh, it's called the Cannonball Run. Yeah. He said he got arrested.
Starting point is 00:33:55 Yeah, it's a it's like, well, yeah, it's a rally. It's not like usually people don't do it in groups, but sometimes they do. But it's it's called the Cannonball Run. And the record was like shattered during COVID because no one was on the roads. Oh, smart. But people do everything. They'll drive like the most common car
Starting point is 00:34:09 that you can think of that's secretly modified to not draw attention. They'll have like blackout, like jammers. They'll have like pee cups. Like they'll have like a team that will drive up and like refuel while you're going. Whoa. It's like-
Starting point is 00:34:21 It's not serious? Oh, it's crazy because it's competition. Yeah. What do you get if you win? Nothing, just bragging rights. It's literally just like, I have the's crazy. Cause it's competition. Yeah. Like what do you get if you went nothing, just bragging nights. It's literally just like, I have the fastest SUV time on the cannonball run. It's an official route from New York to LA and people do it in like 20, 19 hours or something, 20 hours is like the record.
Starting point is 00:34:36 I did that drive when I moved to LA and it took three days. Yeah. No, I mean, it is literally like they're going like average of 160, like through cities, like it's super dangerous. Like obviously. Yeah. It's, it's a crazy, it's a whole thing. It's like a challenge and people try to beat each other's times, but the COVID times are basically it's like, people don't even consider them to be technically fair potentially. Yeah. I don't know if that counts cause there's less cars driving.
Starting point is 00:34:59 Yeah. But somebody just broke one last week for Eve, for diesel. They have all these different side ones. It's like motorcycle, diesel, electric, like all these different categories. Yeah. They should separate the COVID times from the red ones. Cause it's, it's like the NBA when they had the COVID championship with LeBron. Yeah. Yeah. It's the same. Yeah. It's not the same. Cause you don't have the audience. Not Canon. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It sounds like a fun one though. Yeah. My buddy got totally screwed. He got arrested and they towed his car and everything. They'll arrest you like on when I do these rallies every time somebody usually gets arrested really they'll I mean because people are going to 20 Holy shit, not on my rally, but on rallies allegedly people are going like to all ask people I've done videos of compilations where I go. What's the fastest you've ever gone?
Starting point is 00:35:40 And then they'll be like 220 215 230 like what the fuck to everyone has gone at least like 180 190 on these things think the fast stuff it is 120 and that was sketchy my car was shaking. Oh shit Okay, you got a wild side to you. Yeah. Yeah, I've gone 183 184 allegedly But uh, but like Any faster than that if you're on like a road is so sketchy. Yeah, a lot of people do it in the middle tweak and you're done. You're done. Anything above like 100, you're done. So that quick. It happens all the time.
Starting point is 00:36:13 People die on that. Would you say you're an adrenaline junkie? Yeah, for sure. Not like well, I don't know. I do like skydiving, scuba diving, all that kind of stuff. Not like, oh, yeah, I'd say so. There's levels to it. Yeah. Like I'm not doing like scrollsuit jumping, like that base jumping or whatever it's called. It looks fun, but.
Starting point is 00:36:28 That shit's crazy. Yeah, I don't know about that one. What about you? I would say I'm not. No, yeah. I'm just a PC gamer. I like podcasts and yeah, I'm pretty mellow. Yeah, I'd say more so than the average person
Starting point is 00:36:40 for sure for me, yeah. I noticed though a lot of really successful people have that wild side to them. Yeah, I'm kind of like, I definitely am like, I get my shit done, but I like to have fun too. And that's like where a lot of my videos come into play is like, I'll be filming people on like a yacht, partying or like a mansion,
Starting point is 00:36:56 but it's like entertaining like vice style content. But obviously I have to be on my shit and like not get fucked up. You can't be drunk and stuff. Exactly, so it's kind of a fine line. Like I have employees and it's weird too because they'll be doing these shoots and stuff like that where you're drinking, but you need to keep it.
Starting point is 00:37:11 It's a weird, weird industry to be in. No, I had one of my last assistants out of fire and he was drinking. Oh yeah. That's where I kind of draw the line. If you're filming and you're drunk. Yeah, well it's weird being in our industry because with your employees, you get way closer than normal employees. It's not like a, it's weird being in our industry because you, with your employees,
Starting point is 00:37:25 you get way closer than normal employees. Like it's not like a normal nine to five, like work balance where you have like an HR, I mean, it depends on the operations scale, but like for me, at least I'm on the road with my employees traveling around doing fun stuff, but like also you need to lay down the line and like be like, yo, like I know this is all fun
Starting point is 00:37:40 and stuff, but like this is a business. 100%. Dude, that's been my issue because I'm on my seventh assistant. I don't think I'm a dick, but like this is a business. 100%. Dude, that's been my issue, cause I'm on my seventh assistant. I don't think I'm a dick, but the problem is I just get too close with them. Yeah. We become friends.
Starting point is 00:37:50 We're traveling to new city every month. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've had to be like, whoa, cause I had a guy that used to film with me and he was like my best friend. Yeah. And then it ended in a whole thing and now we're fine. But exactly, like when you're friends on payroll,
Starting point is 00:38:02 he was like my best friend. So it was like, Yeah, that's a tricky one. Your best friend's asking for a raise. It's weird. Yeah, it's like hiring a like your brother or something like that, which I've avoided too. I can't work with family anymore. I'll never give them money. I'll never work with them. Yeah. Keep that separate. Oh, yeah. People told me that as advice and it's been working out great.
Starting point is 00:38:18 Yeah. It never works out. Yeah. Yeah. You can't. Yeah. As far as like not hiring them. Yeah. You can't employ your family. Yeah. 100%. Well, Daniel, what's next for you, man? It's been fun. Uh, I don't know honestly. I'm trying to start a show I think we're pitching to networks. I can't say who right now, but um, yeah, we're gonna make this into like What I'm doing into essentially like long form TV show like on some of the major streaming platforms So yeah, I'd be a little tough for that, but hopefully it gets picked up and yeah the major streaming platform. So I'd be on the lookout for that, but hopefully it gets picked up and yeah.
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