Digital Social Hour - The $1M OnlyFans Secret: 18-Year-Old's Empire Revealed | Jack Doherty DSH #927

Episode Date: November 27, 2024

Go behind the scenes of an 18-year-old entrepreneur's journey to building a $1M OnlyFans empire! 💰 In this raw and unfiltered conversation, discover how this young mogul built multiple successful businesses, from managing top OnlyFans creators to becoming a streaming sensation. Get exclusive insights into the world of digital entrepreneurship as we discuss everything from early stock market trading at age 15 to scaling an OnlyFans management agency that generates millions. Learn about the challenges of building a personal brand, managing a team of 50+ content creators, and balancing multiple revenue streams while staying grounded. From crashing McLarens to signing major streaming deals, this episode reveals the real story behind viral moments and business decisions that shaped a digital empire. Whether you're an aspiring entrepreneur or curious about the creator economy, this conversation offers invaluable lessons about success, failure, and everything in between. Watch as we explore the realities of being a young millionaire, dealing with overnight success, and the pressure of maintaining momentum in the fast-paced world of social media. This is the untold story of how dedication, strategic thinking, and raw talent can turn digital influence into serious money. 🚀 #digitalmarketing #personalbranding #socialmediamarketing #onlyfansmarketing #onlyfansmarketingtips CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Getting Married at 21 01:25 - Building Your Team 03:38 - Kik Ban Explanation 04:26 - Aiden Ross Ban Details 05:48 - Being Authentic on Camera 07:36 - Most Viewed Stream Highlights 12:41 - United Airlines Ban Reason 14:05 - Flying Spirit Airlines Experience 15:45 - Growing Your Streaming Views 19:04 - Political Engagement This Election 20:29 - Arrest History Discussion 22:10 - Family Insights: Your Dad 23:23 - Best Sport Discussion 24:54 - Hockey Content Creation 27:02 - Trading Stocks at 15 27:56 - Achieving $400k at 15 28:00 - High School Impact Discussion 28:46 - Starting Your OnlyFans Agency 32:40 - Long-Term Goals Overview 33:46 - High Expectations Explained 34:54 - Pressure of Live Streaming 36:08 - Spending $400k on a Lil Baby Concert 37:08 - Outro APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: [e-mail] GUEST: Jack Doherty https://www.instagram.com/jackdoherty/ https://www.jackdoherty.com/ LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Yeah, I mean everyone does. people definitely put on a character. Yeah, I mean everyone does. Everyone has like a switch. Like when the cameras are on, you just have a different type of energy, you know? Gotta kind of act different and keep people engaged. You think that's good or bad though? Bad.

Really? Yeah, I wish I could just be more myself on camera. Appreciate the honesty. Not like a psychopath like everyone sees me as. All right guys, we got Jack here out in Vegas and you had a fun day yesterday. Yeah, pretty fun. Got married. Yep.

How was that? Pretty good. Sort of. I mean, I don't know. Okie. Yeah. I don't know. Wake up with any regrets or?

I don't know. I didn't even have to. I don't know. We got in a fight right after the wedding, bro. We're cooked. No, I'm kidding.? I don't know, I don't even have to... I don't know, we got in a fight right after the wedding bro, we're cooked. Nah, I'm kidding. But I don't know. You're young man. Yeah, I'm young. Fuck. How old are you actually? I don't even know. I'm 21.

21, getting married at 21. Yeah. Wow. It's like a Vegas wedding, it's like a certificate, like it's not like an actual marriage thing. It's like one of those Vegas things, it's not like real, it's not legit. I'm not actually getting married, I would have had that prenup ready by then but no But I feel that I feel that was that a planned thing though, or you just kind of really just got here to Vegas I was like, yeah, I need a stream idea. I was like you want to get married tomorrow

She's like yeah, but and then now we're divorced. No, I'm kidding. But uh, I don't know It's just something everyone does when they go to Vegas. I feel like well you've been with her for a while though, right? Yeah, like a year and a half I Sat your longest relationship. Yeah, pretty much like my only like actual relationship never really took anything seriously Cuz I'm just so focused on like you know my business and everything, but kind of all just happened Yeah, you've always been focused on business. I remember seeing you in that Logan Paul interview like what five years ago Yeah, and you were still making money out like that age. I was yeah I pretty much started like making good money when I was like 13 14 15 yeah I used to study uh how Logan Paul went viral and stuff too for sure he

definitely inspired a lot of people yeah no I would watch like him and Jake like growing up all all day and they would just inspire me and that's what made me start my YouTube channel absolutely did you see the fight last night? No, but I bet on it. Who'd you bet on? Jake. And I bet on that I'd go past five rounds too. Smart. Yeah.

OK. I watched it and it was tough to watch, dude. Yeah, I wish you got to watch it. Why didn't you watch it? Bro, my girlfriend was fighting with me over nothing, bro. No, I'm kidding. We never get in fights, but it was just such a. So you actually got in a fight?

I thought you were trolling. Nah, but that's why I'm a little sad. No, I'm kidding. We never get in fights, but it was just such a... So you actually got in a fight? I thought you were trolling. Nah, but that's why I'm a little sad. No, I'm kidding. But we've never, we never, ever, ever fight like ever, but it was just so stupid. It's just like, sometimes we just get stressed out and shit and I just have a lot going on. And I don't know, sometimes I feel like the people around me

don't really know how to like interact with me sometimes when like, you know, I'm stressed out or like I'm dealing with a lot. And I don't know, sometimes I feel like no one's helping me out and I have a huge team. But I love my team, like certain people more than others. No, I'm kidding. But I just need help sometimes, I feel like more.

But yeah. Team's important, especially someone like you. A lot of yes men try to surround themselves around you. I bet. Yeah. Just egging you on. No, I'm just, I'm very careful with who I surround myself with.

You have to be. Yeah. If you have a bunch of yes men, that's like the downfall of a lot of people. Yeah, but I see right through those types of people. Like I already know like new people come my life. I already know their intentions, like why they want to be around me or whatever it is,

but so I'm careful. I mean, finding real friends for you must be really difficult because people want to use you for views and for money, right? Yeah, sort of. But I don't know. I just let them come across whenever it happens. But I just have a really small circle

and kind of keep it that way. That's smart. You're streaming on a new site now I saw, right? Yeah, party.com. Is that a newer platform? I've never seen them. Yeah, so I got banned on Kick. And then two weeks later, I signed a deal with party.com,

which is basically pretty similar to Kick. And it's just a new livestreaming platform that I think is going to do really good. What would happen if Kick on banned you, though? Probably go back streaming on there, but just push everything back to Party. That's what I'm trying to help grow right now and be a part of that, starting my own streaming website,

basically, and just pushing that and growing it. That's kind of help grow right now and be a part of that. Starting my own streaming website basically and just pushing that and growing it. It's kind of my goal right now. Were you surprised when kicked in and unbanned you? Yeah, but I was talking to Eddie. He said he's going to unban me. So just waiting for that to happen. But yeah, I mean, I think it's kind of crazy

that I'm still banned. But I get it. It's whatever. Everything happens for a reason in life. And it's a wake up call and I got to learn from it. But yeah, I mean, I'm not trippingpping seems like every day there's a band there they definitely got a lot like tighter about everything in the past like year but I feel it's just what they have to do because they've just grown so big you know yeah I mean

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Was he like that off camera too? Yeah. Really? He's getting me like that. I didn't believe it until I saw it. Yeah, I mean, I never really met him like that. And then we did that streaming a year ago. And then all that shit happened.

And then he ended up getting sent to a mental hospital for 77 days. But I just thought it was all a character for a stream. But it wasn't. Holy crap. Yeah, because some people definitely put on a character. Yeah, I mean everyone does. Like everyone has like a switch. Like when the cameras are on you just have a different type of energy, you know? You gotta kind of act different and keep people engaged.

You think that's good or bad though? Bad. Really? Yeah, I wish I could just be more myself on camera. I appreciate the honesty. Not like a psychopath like everyone sees me as. I mean, I feel like you do it to build an audience, like the Jake Paul formula, right? Yeah, basically.

I mean, it's kind of the exact same thing you did. But at the end of the day, I got to use all the engagement I have to push a more positive narrative of myself and just do better things, which I'm working on. But there's obviously little hiccups in the road cuz I live stream every second of my life so obviously all my fuck-ups are gonna be broadcasted live to just be you know shitted on everywhere and but yeah I mean it just makes me learn from everything more because I know everyone fucks up a lot off camera but I'd be live streaming absolutely everything I do so everything I do just gets thrown right back in my

face or taken the wrong way or whatever it is you know but I I just keep learning from it. Yeah, you can't hide anything if you're live-streaming 24-7 Yeah, and Kai's doing that right now for a month straight. Yeah, that's crazy. That's nuts. Even when he sleeps showers But I don't know how he does it. I couldn't do that. The invasion of privacy is just like There's just like not never being able to have a break is like what really does it It's just not being able to step off camera and just turn yourself off is what makes you just crash out. Yeah. That's why foosie acts like that. That's why, I don't know, people are just too much of that.

The camera just makes you go crazy. Nah, everyone, dude. I remember when Logan was vlogging every day. He went crazy near the one year mark or whatever. Yeah. So you gotta be careful. Yeah. Shit. Do you stream every day? I stream basically every day you stream every day I seem like

Basically every day sometimes every day but like at least like four times a week Probably five times a week cheese and how often are you planning? Like what's going on the stream is that like a daily thing? I try to plan as much as possible But it gets like stressful, you know, if you have a stream like if you're doing ten hours streams a day It's hard to plan every hour your stream Yeah, actually if you're doing it every day so a lot of stuff just kind of happens as it happens and it's unplanned, but I just go about it and just fill my life.

What type of content gets the most views for you? I mean, I don't even know. I guess whenever I crash, I'm a clarinet. I wasn't going to bring it up unless you did. That one got how many views did that get? I don't even know. Probably like billions. that shit's everywhere. You can't escape that right?

Yeah, I have like like it's on the news. So it just hits a whole different like, you know, demographic of people like even like old people and shit know about it and they'd be like, yo, you're that guy that crashed in McLaren. I'm like, yep. It reminded me. Yeah, when you look at how you handle that situation and you look at all the people talking about it, like what goes through your head? Yeah, I mean, that's the type of shit I believe.

Like looking back on my live streams and like trying to learn from like, dang, I shouldn't have gone about it like that. And I just look at it and cringe, like why do I do it like that? But you know, when you're in the moment, you don't think like, how can I make myself look the best or whatever, you know,

you kind of just act how you'd act. And I was just like, all right, my film was okay. Like I realized he's good. Like we're best friends. Like I don't need to be like, are you okay? Are you okay? Like we looked at each other, realized we're okay. And we're just trying to don't need to be like, are you okay? Are you okay? We realized we're okay and we're just trying to save our lives and break out of this McLaren.

But then I'm like, all right, let's just film it. He was filming before I even started filming. He pulled out his phone and started filming because that's what we're used to. We'd been doing this for years. This is all we do. At the end of the day, I shouldn't act like that. And yeah, I realized I didn't need to act like that. I'm just so, I just sometimes get so caught up

in everything I be doing, and I just lose sense of reality. And I think I just needed a little wake up call right there. And just humbled me a little bit. Yeah. Well, at least you can look back and reflect on it, right? Yeah, but I mean, I guess that's the whole point. Instead of just keep fucking up, I got to learn from it? Yeah, but I mean, I guess that's the whole point, you know? Instead of just keep fucking up, I got to learn from it.

Yeah, do you think that was kind of the final nail in the coffin for you? I mean, not really. I'd probably fuck up more. Hopefully not. At the end of the day, it's a car accident, and an accident's an accident. You know, people get into accidents.

But unfortunately, it was live streamed, you know? Yeah. How fast were you going? I crashed at like 39 miles per hour. That's what it's selling a dash, which isn't bad Like thank God like, you know, cuz I'm in a McLaren like obviously I'd be driving that shit way faster So I'm just glad I crashed at 40 miles per hour and not like a hundred. Yeah, cuz you're on the highway, right? Yeah, so it could have been worse could have been 70 80. Yeah easily and it was raining. Oh, yeah, that's why I crashed The hydroplane, right? Yeah. Easily. And it was raining. Oh yeah, that's why I crashed. The hydro plane, right? Yeah.

Yeah, you can't even react to that. That's just like. Yeah, I mean, like that's happened to me like a little bit before and I was like. Want to become up to 50% wealthier? Paying $0 in management fees with Quest Wealth Portfolios can help you get there. All you need to do is make a new deposit

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But when you're hydroplaning, you have no control over your car. Especially in a McLaren. Those cars are the worst to begin with. I haven't heard the best things about McLarens actually. How many cars do you have right now? I think like seven or eight. Geez, and you're 21. I want to get rid of them.

Really, after that incident? Yeah. I'm so done. I can't crash another one. You probably have PTSD, right? You probably don't even want to be driving. I don't drive anymore. I'm so done with that.

I just don't want to fuck up again. I'm scared. It could have gotten so much worse. I could have hit someone else, or my film could have gotten. Who knows? So it's just like, I just don't want to ever put myself in that situation ever again, or anyone else in that situation ever again. You know I'm too young and I have too much going on in my life right now to like be fucking around with cars like that

I feel that I remember that one streamer that was driving on the highway like all crazy I Forget his name squeeze Ben squeeze. Yeah, that's the thing It's like I get banned on kick for like getting an accident like I purposely crashed my car purposely I wasn't recklessly driving or anything. You know, it's raining I was the first time I ever drove my car not in track mode Like I was in like the family-friendly mode, but like yeah, I obviously unintentionally crashed The car was an accident an accident an accident's an accident, you know I'm gonna learn from it

but like neon the other hand like he was in that car with squeeze bends like just weaving it out of traffic and he Crashing to someone did a hit and run and just dipped and then he gets unbanned like three days like what the fuck crazy Yeah, I wonder what happened that squeeze guy. He's in jail. I thought he is yeah for that that video that hit and run I don't know, but it's just like he has a ton of attention towards his name So obviously something's gotta happen damn. Yeah, those videos are wild. I would never get in that car, bro Fuck that holy shit. Do you do stuff with neon still? No, not anymore. We're supposed to box but he backed out of it like literally couple days before it was insane You would win on that. Yeah, he's too skinny. I mean such a twig. Yeah, that'd be easy

Yeah, I've been wrestling all my life to you like since I was like literally four years old. So yeah Yeah, so I like I'll never lose a fight like I I'm tough like he hasn't left his room I'll never lose a fight. Like I'm tough. Like he hasn't left his room. But how much do you want to get into boxing right now? How much what do you want to get into boxing? Yes, sort of. But like it's just a lot like, you know, the whole training everything like I have so much

other stuff I have to keep my mind on. It's like hard for me to just like turn it all off and just focus on training for boxing. You know? Yeah. Even though, yeah, it pays good or whatever. But like I just have so much going on right now that I don't want to like, you know? Yeah. Even though, yeah, it pays good or whatever, but I just have so much going on right now that I don't want to stop or lose. So I just have to keep going on everything

and keep the momentum going. But boxing is definitely something I would want to do down the line for sure. Yeah, boxing's a full time thing. Yeah, it was just an easy lick. I didn't even have to train, so I was like, fuck it. Let's do it. That would have been the easiest million you ever made.

Literally. Yeah, you probably wouldn't have had to do shit. I know. Dude, on the way here, I saw on your Twitter, you didn't get let on your plane. Oh yeah, yeah. Was that United Airlines? Yeah, yeah.

So what happened? We were on our way back from Coachella a couple months ago and there were these two 40-year-old guys, right? And they took a picture with me and everything before we hopped on the plane, they were super cool. They even let me smoke a little joint before the airplane, they were lit. They were super cool, right? And then all of a sudden before we hopped on the plane were super cool they even let me like smoke a little joint before the airplane we're like lit they were super cool right and then all of a sudden they get super drunk on the plane and then start acting insane like I have it all on video like

we literally recorded all of it and then like all the passengers on the plane were trying to get these two guys off the plane because like they wouldn't leave us alone I was like yo it's like we had a red-eye flight so we're like yeah we're trying to see can you please just leave us alone and like they just took it the wrong way and then just started Like trying to like Baker and fight and like it was just insane then all of a sudden I don't know after the plane incident Whatever like the flight attendant was trying to get them kicked off the plane and then it somehow flipped on me there was just someone that like wasn't on the plane like one of the workers or like a cop or something that just knew who I

Was and just like wanted to like fuck with me and like yeah, he's like yo You're off the plane to you or like it was insane like I record everything I know in those situations like not to act out because obviously like I'm the kid in this situation I'm filming I have a camera they're gonna look at me in the worst way possible so I have to like maintain my composure so I don't get kicked off the plane but no matter how respectful I acted they're just like some people just I don't know that sucks though cuz you want a red-eye so you got to get a hotel that night now we ended up just waiting a couple hours I took a spirit flight home.

That was W because I literally saw the week before a little baby went viral for like flying spirit and I was like yo this is my time like yo let's book a spirit flight home and then take videos of me on the spirit flight so I had my film or just take videos of me while I was on the spirit flight and that shit went so viral. I saw it. Jack's already flying economy this and that but I really only flew spirit because I got banned from United Airlines so I had to fly Spirit. But I was like, yo, I'm gonna do this

and just record videos and it just went crazy viral. Good old Spirit. I saw a ton of those. So I took advantage of that situation and made it a W. Saw a ton of those clips. I thought they were fake but you were actually on a Spirit Airlines flight? Hell yeah.

That's hilarious. I'll do it again. I hate wasting money on flights. It's actually not that different from United, to be honest. Really? They're all like the same at the end of the day. I don't even care. It's just not that different from United, to be honest. Really, they're all the same at the end of the day. I don't even care. It's just whatever gets me there for the cheapest price. Yeah.

So when I land, I would be like, yo, I'm happy. I save money. So you've got a frugal side to you. Yeah, for sure. That's interesting, because you buy nice cars, but you do like to save money. Yeah, and things that I guess I can keep, like washes and cars, those are all things that hold most of this value. Sometimes they go up. But on things where it's like, you know, like, uh, like washes and cars. Like those are all things that like hold most of his value.

You know, sometimes they go up, but like on things where it's like a plane seat, where it's like, it's gone once I land, it's just like, there's no point in spending that extra money to me. Especially when I have to fly my whole team around with me. I have like 10 plus people. Jesus. So it's just like, there's no point in wasting extra money on seats when I don't have to. Yeah. You got security, you got the camera guys, your girl. That's a fat team so everywhere you go you bring you roll ten deep probably like Like if we go on vacation like right now in Vegas with us We have like probably ten twelve people with us me more dude That's like 5k and flights and hotels and stuff. Yeah, it's cooked. Holy crap. You're spending so I don't travel

I fuck everywhere. I go after Bring a whole family with me. Yeah, it's a lot. You know, that's why. I don't know. But. God damn. So how do you want to grow the team? Are you cool with where it's at right now? I'm like cool with where it's at right now.

I just be getting, I don't know, if you add too much, sometimes you just get stressed out. And if you move too fast, you know, not everyone gets in place. And you got to make sure everyone knows like what their job is and what they got to do every day before you keep hiring more. And that's not even including all the clippers you have. Yeah, no, I have a ton of clippers too. How many clippers do you have? Probably like 50 to 100, maybe more. I'm looking to get into that too right now.

Yeah, that stuff is key, definitely helps. You need it. I mean, when you go on TikTok, all those viral videos are from clippers, right? Yeah, literally. And they get millions of views sometimes. Yeah, they go crazy. Is that how you grew your streaming views? Yeah, I would say so. It's just like stuff that just happens on like live streams just goes viral on other platforms and yeah, I guess that's how people like start tuning into the live streams.

Yeah, because before the live stream you were doing YouTube, right? Yeah. And you saw the live streaming as a bigger opportunity basically? like about like a year year and a half ago like I saw like everyone like kind of exploding off the live streaming stuff So I just wanted to get into it and then I saw like a like neon hit me up and then brought foosie over and then That's how that whole thing happened And then from there like I just used that as a way to get into streaming and then I just never look back Yeah, what a group of people neon foosie and yourself. Yeah, holy back. Yeah. What a group of people, Neon, Fousey, and yourself.

Holy crap. That is nuts. I think Neon is, did he sign a huge deal with one of them? Yeah, he has a good kick deal, I'm pretty sure, yeah. Damn. Yeah, I saw some of those deals, man. Crazy money. Yeah, that's pretty good money, yeah.

Did you sign one with Kik originally? Yeah, I had a kick deal. Oh, shit. So that McLaren thing lost the deal? Yeah. But maybe if I get on ban, I should have it back. But figuring it all out right now. Those streaming deals were the craziest deals I've ever seen.

Oh, yeah, they are. Why is it so lucrative, you think? I guess because it's just so new, and it's hard to put an exact value on it. And people obviously think they're worth a lot more. But a lot of those things you saw are like not real too like none of those like hundred million dollar contracts are really hundred million dollar contracts but like they're close but like it you know the

wording is a little off whatever it might be like stuff in there that you can but I don't know I remember yeah the XQC eight inside hundred but basically the the streaming services they run ads on your live stream right that's how they make their money back sort of I guess with kick It's not like that like they I think they just rely on like their revenue from like stake like the gambling website Got it. Did you ever try twitch? Yeah, I was on a I've been on twitch since I got banned on kick. Okay. Yeah, so twitch allows you to film on their platform Yeah, I've been good. Like I don't I don't know and? Yeah, it's not been good. I've been very careful.

I have not been driving a car. Yeah, I mean, I'm just very careful. I don't want to mess up again. Holy crap. What's the next big stream or video you got planned right now? Maybe the divorce video. I'm kidding. I don't know.

I just got that deal with a party, so we're just doing something big every every month for a stream. Do you do the gambling stuff? I had a gambling deal, but uh anymore those go viral right gambling streams Sort of I mean they're alright depends like I guess how you do it But uh, I'm gonna do like an in-person gambling stream today, which is like different but yeah, that's like better I see the ones with Dana White and like the Nelk Boys and stuff yeah those are fire how political did you get this election were you were you pretty outspoken um I have that Trump rap Bentley but uh other than that like I try not to piss people off with politics

cuz you know how people get like but I voted for Trump I don't care I'll say it okay I'll be Trump damn obviously I mean I had that Trump. I don't care. I'll say okay. I'll be Trump damn obviously I mean I had that Trump rap Bentley, you know, I mean Who else have you voted for? You know, but I mean hey, I don't really care Well, you're in Florida. So I mean that makes a lot of sense. They can cry about it You've all come all in Florida. You're gonna get I don't know what would happen to you Okay, no point voting for you plan on staying in Florida for a bit. Oh, yeah Move there like a year and a half ago two years ago because there's like taxes and stuff

I used to live in LA for like a year. I grew up in New York. Okay, I grew up in Jersey I didn't not like LA dude. I tried it for five months Yeah, like after a year I was like I gotta get out of here like one the taxes are just so high and that's the main Reason I moved out but to it's just that people are so fake like everyone there is just like basically fake it So you make it no one really knows what they're doing out there. It's just that people are so fake like everyone there is just like basically fake it till you make it No one really knows what they're doing out there. It's just like I Don't know just everyone comes from everywhere all over the world trying to make it It's just a bunch of leeches out there like doesn't feel like home Yeah, I could definitely see that especially coming from New York where people are just straight-up honest to your face literally

Yeah, and then everyone out in LA is just like I don't know. Yeah, New York. I like New York, but during the pandemic It was just dead. Yeah, try to get out like New York, but during the pandemic it was just dead. Yeah. So I had to get out of there and then LA was even worse, dude. Holy shit. Yeah. But Miami, you could do whatever you want. So that's probably the best spot to be in right now.

I love Miami, yeah. You ever do stuff in other countries? Yeah, I've done some streams and like, I did a stream in Dubai. How was that? That was fun. That was like probably the best thing ever. You didn't get arrested like neon out there?

Nah. See, I know how to act. I know not to fuck up, but unless I'm in driving a McLaren. But I mean, in Dubai, that's the only thing I was trying to avoid was getting in trouble. Yeah. I was very, very careful.

Have you been arrested? Yeah. For what? Just filming a prank when I was like 17. It was so dumb. It was just like, I just filmed the wrong person. It wasn't even anything I did. It was just like, just for filming in public.

It was so stupid. I thought you were allowed to film in public, though. You are. But it's just like the people I filmed, like it was apparently some like rich ass like celebrity family in like LA. And like they got the police to like arrest me. But then like they let me go like a couple hours later

because there was like no charges. It was just it was like the craziest, weirdest thing ever. Damn. And they put me on probation for a year, but then they let me off after six months because they realized I don't need this. I'm like, yo, I didn't do anything wrong. Yeah.

Your parents are probably freaking out, right? Nah. Nah? Not really. It wasn't a big deal. I didn't do anything wrong. Everyone knew that. And I don't know, they knew I'd be chilling. Yeah, I saw some video your mom's like a she works at the cafeteria

Yeah at a school. Yeah, you plan on retiring her Uh, I would you know, I take care of her and I literally give her anything she wants She's my mom wouldn't have a single thing if it wasn't for her But I think it's important for her to like have that job too So she's you know keeps busy and doesn't get into the wrong things You know because I just think it's good for her and she thinks the same thing so nice for you know her own reasons It's just good for her to have who is that business? inspiration for you then growing up

My dad my dad was more of like an entrepreneur and he has like his own like roofing company and stuff like that and I would always see him like just hustling and stuff and just working every day and like he made his own hours but he would work all day long and so I would just see that and did you work with him? Not really no my dad would always be like like tell me kind of that I would just not not that I wouldn't get anywhere but I was like the athlete in the family all I cared about was sports I would never like help with anything outside of that like my brother was like the Boy Scout would always help put up Christmas decorations and like help my dad with that kind of shit

And I'll be across the street playing basketball. Okay, okay But he was like you got to start doing like manual labor and all this stuff Otherwise, you're never gonna be anywhere in life And then I kind of figured out my own way and he always thought my brother was gonna be like the smart one You know do it all butve them wrong. Yeah. Are you close with your brother? I didn't know you had a brother actually. Yeah, I'm close with him.

Has he been on your streams and stuff? Yeah. Okay. Does he do social media for a living or? Yeah, he does social media. He's on his own side of things. He's a boyfriend. Oh, wow. So that's interesting.

Yeah. I did not know that. That's interesting You still play basketball, huh, we might have to play if you still hoop Yeah, I beat a little TJ in a 1v1 a couple weeks ago How much you want to bet that you could beat me in a one-on-one? You're tall man. You're fucking tall But everyone under essay everyone under estimates me. They all think they could win but like I got energy like I'll keep going What if I give you a point lead to start? You're probably good, bro. You're tell it all Everyone underestimates me. They all think they could win. But I got energy. I'll keep going. What if I give you a point lead to start? You're probably good, bro.

You're hella tall. You just stuffed me. At least a little TJ like my height. All these rappers, they'll keep my height. They're all kind of short. We'll have to run some two on two then. We got to maybe against Bryce Hall or something. Yeah, let's do it.

Yeah, let's run that. We could play out here. Is that your best sport, basketball? I was like growing up, I played hockey, soccer soccer like baseball lacrosse like I played every sport But I think the one I I really took most seriously it was like hockey and then I got into YouTube hockey So you liked getting in fights? You ever getting any yeah, we would our team I played on two teams We had a school league and then like a travel league and the school league was like way more troll

So like me and my friends would just like mess around and stuff and like ban from the league was so bad Yeah for what? My friend like fought the ref it was insane I didn't do it obviously like he did and they kind of banned our whole team for it It was insane. So he just made a bad call or whatever and he bought him probably I would crash out like no one gave a fuck about that league like they would just Act like insane because it wasn't like no one like the coaches wouldn't like discipline you like that So everyone just kind of acted out cheese, but like the travel leagues like if you like say hi to the coach the wrong way

They'll bench you for the game or send you home. Damn. You should do some hockey content, dude. That'd be fun Yeah, I should look you like start up a league or something. I do stream with like a hockey player I'd be dope. I like what I think it's Kai right with the basketball league the little kids. Yeah Yeah, those are funny. Yeah, you should do one with the hockey kids. Yeah, I'd be fired You think you could still play? Yeah. Hell yeah. So you were nice. I got a hockey set up at my house in Florida Okay. Yeah, I got like a little fake ice thing and I just shoot into the net. Nice. What was your position? I'll play center. Center. I don't know hockey well, so I don't even know.

Is that defense? I just take the face off and shit. Oh, OK. Nice. Shit. Well, dude, what's next for you out in Vegas? What else you got planned this trip? I think there's like ComplexCon.

I'm going to go to that. I don't know. Are you allowed to film there? Yeah, probably. Okay, I know certain hotels are strict, right? Yeah, I know they're super strict about filming and everything, but I gotta prove I'm gonna film at this one casino,

so I'm gonna link up with Bryce and do that gambling stream today. I've been trying to do that the whole time I've been here, but all the casinos said they need five days notice up front, and I'm only here for three days. Where you going, Red Rock? Me and, I was actually there last night with Bryce, gambling, but just off stream.

Oh, OK. Yeah. Yeah, Red Rock's a spot, man. They're chill there. How much you going to gamble today? I don't know. He gambles big, so I might have to go a little bigger. But I'm just, I gamble small.

I literally bring like $500,000 to the casino. That's it? Yeah. I don't like losing money, bro. I just like making money. I hate losing money. Damn, so you really are frugal, man. I'm so frugal.

Yeah, I'll never bring like, because it's just like, what's gonna, it's not going to change my life if I forget the casino. There's no amount of money, unless I bring an amount of money that I'm going to cry myself to sleep when I lose it, there's no way that money is going to change my life in a good way. Unless I get on a run. Damn. I just don't look at gambling in a good way. You know, it's just like, it's a losing game at the end.

Yeah, yeah. Your fans are probably roasting you on the stream How you think the the casinos afford to keep going like they take your money? So it's like just play with every you're comfortable with losing, you know, you're not gonna win long term Yeah, I've seen Bryce lose tens of thousands. He said yesterday's down at the Red Rock like 140. Oh my yeah I'm only down 110 now. Let's go Stomach that dude. Yeah, me neither. I'd have to be making stupid money, either.

Because I was like, when I was like 15, I was super into trading stocks. Yeah? That's how I feel. I got over the whole gambling addiction was because trading stocks is basically gambling. At the end of the day, it's like when you're trading options, that shit fluctuates like insane.

And I would throw in like, I would be 15 years old throwing in three, four, or into one options play. And it would fluctuate 10%, 20% a second. And it's just like the emotions you feel, especially at that age, just stomaching those losses or wins, it's just like the influx of emotions is just insane. So I feel like that taught me a lot at a young age

and really shaped me up for now when I started making real, real money. I am now, I guess, not to gamble it all the way and I feel so you lost a ton on stocks I would say I kind of broke even on it Like I was up like crazy at the beginning I double my money I was probably up like I put in like 400k when I was like 15 like Robin Hood and I doubled that shit And then I went back down to 400 damn you had 400k at 15 Yeah, how did that affect the way you like I guess, acted in high school with your friends that are broke and shit?

I was low key way more humble than I should have been. No, I'm kidding. Really? No, I was good. But yeah, I mean, I never knew how long any of it was going to last for. So I was just super humble and frugal, and I never spent a dime of it.

I was like, this could end tomorrow. So I was like, let me save and invest it all. And I never spent a single dollar of it until I graduated high school. So I had like probably a million or two in the bank before I really even Knew what Louis Vuitton was, you know, and I am crashing out and wasting my money. Holy shit But yeah, I was super frugal with my money damn because I would destroy a lot of people at that age. Hell, yeah But I don't know. I just just stayed focused and just didn't get anything I didn't really need. That's impressive.

And then you started going hard when you were 18. Yeah, and then once I realized, all right, I think I figured out some other stuff. I went down some other business ventures and stuff. And I was like, all right, I think I'm going to be here for a while. And I know what I'm doing. And I just was a lot more confident in myself

on social media. And I know what I'm doing. So now I can lot more confident myself on social media And I know what I'm doing. So like now I can just go about things differently Mmm, what was that first business venture that took off for you when I started my only fans agency? Okay, that was at 18 Yeah, damn see that was before you were even like 21. Don't you have to be 21 on that platform 18? Oh 18. Yeah Okay. So how did you get the first girl to manage? It kind of all just like happened like I I wasn't even trying to make it happen. It's like someone came to me about it. I was talking to someone about it,

and it all kind of just happened. And then from there, I never looked back, and I just kept scaling it. How many girls do you have now? Right now, I have like six, seven. But I have like double that at a point. But I kind of just keeping it small, just focusing on making everyone as big as possible.

Cause sometimes you have to spread yourself too thin across, you know, too many people. It's just, I don't know, low key you can make more off six and you can off like 12 girls. 100%. Yeah. You can't handle it at a certain point, right? Yeah.

Too many people hitting you up. Yeah. And then it's just like, you know, girls, how girls are and shit. It's hard to keep them all getting along. I mean, you only need like a few good ones in that space I've seen some of the numbers fucking insane other girls. I do millions a month like it's yeah that one girl What was her name? She just said she was retiring The blonde girl Karina, I think I don't know Karina cop never heard of you never heard. No, no, dude

Yeah, I think she made like 40 mil audition. Is that the most you've heard? I think Bad Baby made like 60. Damn. Yeah, like the girl from Dr. Phil. Holy crap. What's the highest one your client has made? In a month, like close to a mil. Damn. Yeah. That's insane.

That was like one of the first months I started. That was right when I was like 18. That was the peak of it. Like three months, four months into me starting it, everything, like I just, it took off so fast. Well, I feel like the timing was good for you. Yeah, back then too. It was a lot less competitive, you know, now it's super oversaturated,

like everyone and their mother does OnlyFans, so it's like, you gotta be 10 times more creative nowadays than you did like two years ago. Dude, I log into X right now, it's just OnlyFans now. I don't even like consume that content. That's so true. No, it's annoying.

Even like IG, I see like half naked girls on my feed, I'm like scrolling next to my girl in bed. I'm like, why is this even popping up? This is the explore page not me It's the algorithm man. Yeah, what platform works the best for like I guess transferring people to only fans for you Probably like I mean Twitter like has the highest conversion rate for sure But then I guess like Instagram tick-, TikTok, those are pretty good. But yeah. So it's still killing it for you, though? Yeah, it's all doing pretty well, yeah.

Damn, I thought it got saturated. Yeah, but you just have to have girls that just are, I don't know, just have a name for themselves and are just doing better than everyone else. If you just focus on a core group of girls, it's not hard to have them making a good amount of money. Is your goal with that business to sell it one day? Definitely not.

I feel like it's a hard business to sell. It's something that I just have to do more hands on. So it's kind of hard to put a price on it and sell it. Because if I were to stop working on the business, who's going to really be doing all the things? Because I do it differently than most agencies. I blow up the girls. Every girl I start with, I start it from scratch.

And yeah, that's how I like to do it, because I know what I'm doing. And a lot of agencies, I just manage the only fan side of things. I actually blow up the girls and provide them all the traffic and do everything for them. That's a lot different than most people, yeah. Because most people will just pay pages to post their girls.

Yeah, so it's not like anyone can really buy me out and do what I'm doing, because it's like, kind of use my platform and everything to post their girls. Yeah, so it's not like anyone can really, I guess, buy me out and do what I'm doing, because it's like, kind of use my platform and everything to push it off. Yeah, that'd be tough to sell. That's a good point. My buddy does buy them, though. Yeah, I mean, there definitely are ways.

I could put money into just doing promos for girls and this and that. And there's ways to do without even using my social media or whatever. But yeah, I mean, I just choose to do it that way. Do you have any long-term goals, whether it's financially or for live streaming? I just want to, I guess, have more time for myself and my family and friends, I guess,

and just not be so... I feel like I could just never take a break and I feel like I can just never stop and I wish I could break out of that and feel like I have enough to where I can just stop and I wish I could break out of that and feel like I have enough to where I can just you know be myself and hang out and I Don't know not burn myself out so much. Damn, you know, you know ayahuasca trip my man. Yeah That means sign me up. You need some psychedelics in you. Yeah, that must suck though I have that feeling of like yo if I don't work the money drives up Yeah, I mean Simon like that. It's just like I just always feel like I want so much more and I just don't work, the money drives up. Yeah. I mean, it's not even like that. It's just like I just always feel like I want so much more.

And I just don't like losing the momentum. I feel like I always have to be doing something every day. And even if I don't, there's always either people calling me or hitting me up that I have to answer. So I can just never really get a break. Or what? I'm waking up to 100 texts, or I'm going to bed, 200 texts.

So it's like, or calls. Nonstop. Yeah, it's just the second I get I have to you know go right to work basically yeah I mean you showed up here as soon as you got up why do you think your expectations are so high for yourself um cuz I know there's not many people in the world like you know get this opportunity that I have and I I don't want to lose it mmm yeah I can relate to that yeah it must be though long term. I don't know if that's gonna work out, you know Yeah, but I'm just uh the burnout. I mean I've been doing it for ten years and like I've been I've been fine

You've never had burnout or like I'm never gonna break I mean, yeah, there's times where I've like crashed the fuck out and I'm like, you know the fuck this shit I don't want to do anymore. But like, you know It's just all part of the game. You know yeah, it's like you just kind of bounce back and not let anything get to you and just I always just try to think positive and Not be negative and keep her everyone around me positive so I can just keep going you know because it's all really all about the energy Around you fill up, but yeah, I mean if you just look at everything the most positive way and You just keep going. I just try to like just think like I'm grateful to be in the position I am today and

look at it in the best way possible and never get like negative about it. Mmm. Damn no break in ten years. Holy crap I did about six years and I was going crazy, dude. Yeah I was going nuts. The live streaming shit makes you go crazy like if you do like You start streaming like too much like you just you just turn into a whole different person what do you think clauses that because you think you're just trying to like get so many views it's like yeah you're just constantly trying to entertain and like never let a dry moment it's just like you just I don't know it just turns into a spiral and then before you know it

it's just like you're like where the hell is all this energy coming from like I haven't slept in three days and I'm crashing out here and just doing all this crazy shit. And I don't know, it's just like, sometimes you just need to take a step back. And I think Loki getting banned on kick was like the biggest blessing in disguise. Like, that's how I look at it. Like everything happens for a reason.

And yeah, I don't know. Wow, that's deep. No, I could see that though. Cause if you're like doing normal stuff, you're going to lose viewers. And then, you know, you kind of have to be like doing crazy shit all day. Yeah, exactly It's a lot of pressure. Holy crap and that sounds expensive too. Yeah, it is expensive Because you got to like, I don't know blow up stuff or do whatever. Yeah

I mean Loki I probably spend more a month that I make a month off streaming like it really cost me so much money Yeah, probably. Yeah. Holy shit. Yeah, I thought you were making money I mean, I don't really I Spend so much money. What's the most you've spent on a stream? Like fucking 200k. What are you doing? Maybe three 400k? I was when I had a little baby on my birthday party Oh, I saw the company sponsor, but like they technically spent 400k But they was like 200 for a little baby, and they put another 200 into like the whole like party you know Wow but yeah so that's your birthday party yeah so you streamed him just performing basically yeah and

was it a good you think that was worth it or yeah it was honestly a lot cooler like before like that like like on my actual birthday like four days before the party like he invited me to the studio and we just hung out like literally all night long and like that was like the best night of my life because I love little baby like he I look up to him and like I just listen to all this music like every day all day And just makes me like so motivated and shit So when I finally met him like everyone knows like all my fans know I love little baby Yeah, but I finally met it was like the best day ever. He's got some bangers

Yeah, did you film in the studio with him? We got some clips and stuff, but it was like all unreleased music So okay, I gotta wait to like post it. was fire it was the best time of my life you might have to pay for a feature bro I'm down y'all make a song I'm gonna be legendary yeah for real well Jack it's been fun man I hope you have a good time in Vegas where can people keep up with you man hey thank you man I appreciate you yeah for sure what's the best way party yes sir party.com awesome link it below