Digital Social Hour - The $50K Crypto Mistake You MUST Avoid Now | Layah Heilpern DSH #686
Episode Date: September 1, 2024🚨 The $50K Crypto Mistake You MUST Avoid Now! 🚨 Dive into this thrilling episode of the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly, where we explore the volatile world of crypto! 💰 Joined by the ins...ightful Layah, we uncover the highs and lows of digital currencies and the one mistake that could cost you big time. With the crypto market bleeding, it's crucial to stay informed! Tune in now as we discuss the future of Ethereum, Bitcoin, and Solana 🌐 and the impact of politics on the financial landscape. From meme coins to the role of major institutions like BlackRock, this episode is packed with valuable insights. 📊 Don't miss out on this engaging conversation! Hit that subscribe button and stay tuned for more eye-opening stories on the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! 🚀 Join the conversation and watch now to arm yourself with the knowledge to navigate the tumultuous crypto waters. 👀💡 #CryptocurrencyForBeginners #BitcoinCulture #MemeCoins #HowToBuyBitcoin #CryptoMarket #BitcoinMining #CryptoTrading #Ethereum #Bitcoin #Cryptocurrency CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 00:28 - Layah's Crypto Market Sentiment 01:36 - Layah's Crypto Portfolio Percentage 04:02 - Daddy Coin Investment 05:52 - Is It Too Late for Solana? 08:01 - Michael Saylor's Continued Investments 12:14 - Female Experience in Crypto 15:44 - UK vs US Crypto Development 17:20 - Current Bull Market Status 19:35 - Geopolitics Impact on Bitcoin 21:06 - Learning About Crypto 21:58 - Interviewing Notable Figures 25:47 - Impact of the Red Pill Movement 26:50 - Overview of the Red Pill Movement 28:58 - Dating Challenges in the West 32:46 - Online Money-Making Strategies 36:04 - Working with China's Global TV Network 37:39 - Hate Speech on X Platform 40:29 - Finding Lena Online APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: Jenna@DigitalSocialHour.com GUEST: Layah Heilpern https://www.instagram.com/layahheilpern https://t.me/EECryptoTrade SPONSORS: Deposyt Payment Processing: https://www.deposyt.com/seankelly LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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So toxic, you know, because a lot of people put their entire life savings into crypto.
A lot of people want the easy way out.
And that is the easy way out.
They're trying to get that pump overnight,
especially because you can make that much money in crypto.
People lose their work ethics.
So now everyone's just waiting for that life changing money.
So they dump the entire bag into crypto.
And then when the market bleeds like it is right now, it's so toxic.
All right, guys, we got Leia here.
Crazy timing with the crypto markets bleeding right now.
How are you feeling?
I'm feeling all right.
I know a lot of people are panicking.
And it's actually such a crazy time to do this podcast because ETH is at $2,600.
I don't think it's been at that price since early 2024.
So yeah, but I'm feeling good.
This is very normal. normal you know people often freak
out every time uh the market pulls back but all you have to do is look at the previous cycles and
it's doing exactly the same thing that it did over the previous cycles always around five between the
halving and five months after the halving we tend to see a lot of sideways movement pullbacks a lot
of resistance crashes especially with everything that's going on in the world right now. So I'm chill. Yeah, I don't go on Twitter when the markets are bleeding.
It's so toxic. Yeah, it's so toxic. You know, because a lot of people put their entire life
savings into crypto. A lot of people want the easy way out. And that is the easy way out. They're
trying to get that pump overnight, especially because you can make that much money in crypto.
People lose their work ethics. So now everyone's just waiting for that life changing money so they dump the entire bag into crypto and then when the market bleeds like it is
right now it's so toxic they feel it yeah so that being said what percentage of your portfolio is in
crypto i'm 100 crypto whoa well when you portfolio, in terms of my investments, I only invest in crypto.
So no stocks, nothing.
I'm 100% in crypto.
In terms of fiat versus how much crypto I have, I actually don't know the exact number,
but I'm heavy in crypto.
I don't have much fiat left.
Okay.
So you're really convinced that crypto is the future then?
Yeah.
I mean, crypto is the future.
I think it's inevitable.
Digital money is inevitable.
We have major institutions that are now invested into crypto.
We have BlackRock with the Bitcoin spot ETF, the Ethereum ETF.
It's now become an election issue.
You have to be pro-crypto in order to get elected now.
President Trump, he was at the Bitcoin conference.
Kamala Harris is talking about resetting relations with the crypto industry.
So it really is inevitable.
You have nation states buying Bitcoin like El Salvador.
So to me, it's an obvious win.
Right.
And you stick with the main ones.
You don't dabble with any weird like meme coins or anything?
No, I do.
So my main bag is Bitcoin, ETH and Solana.
I trade the other meme coins because I know what I'm doing. I wouldn't advise everyone to do it. But if you have access
to good information, you understand the market, you understand different launches that are going
on, different projects, you know where the attention is in the space because obviously
it goes in cycles, then you can trade those markets. But mainly holding long term Bitcoin, Ethereum and
Solana. Got it. I like that. I've gotten wrecked on some of those meme ones. Which ones did you
get wrecked on? Dude, I can't even remember. It was years ago, but all of them. Yeah, you have to
be careful. You have to understand with meme coins that they are going to zero. Like every single
meme coin is going to zero. You just need information about when to get in and when to
get out. And then there's a lot of money to be made. But I don think just anyone can do that i think you have to have access to information you have to be
plugged in have your ear to the ground that normie that's just sitting on twitter trying to catch a
good pump it's just not gonna be too late yeah is that why you started your chat yeah exactly yeah
we have a telegram group where we talk about different coins different meme coins things that
we know are about to get listed on different exchanges and things like that. Because ultimately, by the time a person hears about a meme coin or any kind of crypto,
by the time they hear about it on social media, it's too late. It's already pumped. The influence
is already dumped on you. So the developers already dumped on you. So you do need, if you
want to make money, access to that kind of information. Did you get in on daddy coin i didn't buy daddy coin personally i just
didn't do it but we knew but we knew that it was going to pump so we did talk about it in the chat
a lot of our members um in our vip group made really good money on it um but i personally
didn't you know when you just feel like you're holding enough yeah that's how i felt at that
moment yeah yeah because you interviewed tate so you probably knew the alpha was coming yeah yeah no tate tate's uh very much
involved in crypto more so than people realize so yeah when you have that kind of information
you know you can you can pass that information on to people around you so everyone can make money
together but yeah he's he's definitely way more into crypto than people realize but it's it's
funny though because when he was blowing up he would dump on crypto people you know like he would
say oh you're a nerd you're a dork and all his followers would also say oh anyone that talks
about crypto is a was it a dng is a was it dork nerd geek or something now those very people are
now getting into crypto so it's it's funny damn so he was in it back then when you interviewed him three years ago he's been buying bitcoin for years wow he's a smart guy pretty sure
he made good money on link as well so that was a big come up link and soul i know people that got
in soul at like two bucks oh you do yeah yeah the icl or whatever yeah yeah you catch one of those
i mean you're set 100 but that that's difficult you knows, yeah. Yeah, and everybody thinks that the next project
is going to be like the next soul
and they want to get in really early,
but it's very difficult.
And I think like a lot of the time,
those days have passed,
because we now have three main cryptocurrencies
that are actually building
and doing something extremely valuable and useful
and adding a lot of value to the ecosystem.
So they have first mover advantage.
So it's going to be very difficult for all the other projects to get that foot in the door.
I'd be surprised to see what project is able to flip Sol, flip Link in what Link does,
flip Ethereum.
I just don't think it's possible.
It'd be tough.
I think it's too late, to be honest.
For sure.
Some people think Sol to 1,000.
Yeah, I think Sol to 1,000. Really? Well, it's too late, to be honest. For sure. Some people think Sol to 1,000. Yeah, I think Sol to 1,000.
Really?
Well, it's just so easy.
I think Sol could go to 1,000 because it's just that easy.
People love speed, efficiency.
They just want to get in and out of a coin.
They want low gas fees.
They want it cheap.
They want easy over decentralization and security.
It's so easy to trade soul ethereum can
get really expensive especially right now as the market's pulled back eth gas fees are astronomical
damn i thought they fixed that with the update yeah well they didn't they spent what five years
on that update yeah i know yeah it's funny because everyone was saying that when the update was
coming everybody was saying oh don't worry about expensive gas fees eth 2.0 is going to fix that
and then eth 2.0 comes and people are still complaining about the gas fees and people like
oh it was never supposed to help with the gas fees you know that's why something like solana i think
could go to a thousand dollars just because yeah it's cheap and that's what people want and
especially people who are new to crypto right yeah like they don't you know they don't want
to be trading you need you need capital to trade, right?
And then you need capital for gas fees and it just gets a bit too expensive for people.
So that's why I think Sol
is a great starting point for newbies.
Yeah, it's cool to see your conviction,
even though it's down a lot
because a lot of people freak out right now.
I mean, I've been in the space since 2017, 2018.
So I've seen it, you know,
and I was here in March, 2020
when the entire market crashed. That was a really, I think if you've seen it, you know, and I was here in March 2020, when the entire market
crashed. That was a really I think if you survived March 2020. In crypto, nothing really is going to
affect you. You know, I saw Bitcoin drop 50%. It went from 8k to 4k. It doesn't sound like a lot,
but it was a 50% pullback. And we thought the whole world was over. The market crash,
the stock market crash lockdowns happened this
crazy unprecedented virus which was supposedly killing people you know kicked off so you know
so if the crypto market can survive that global shutdowns then i have no concerns about fake wars
and orchestrated wars and all that that's a whole nother right topic michael saylor's still buying
too michael saylor's buying yeah black rock BlackRock's buying. They're buying, you know, millions of dollars is flowing into
Ethereum. The spot ETF millions is flowing into the Bitcoin ETF. So how you can be bearish right
now, I have no idea. I'm bullish. I'm buying. I think I dropped like $50,000 into Ethereum
yesterday. Maybe that was like a little too early. I dropped it at $2,900, but I don't mind. Now it's
at $2,700. It's okay. I'm going to probably, after this, we're going to go buy more. It's at $2,600
now. So yeah, I mean, I have a long-term view, you know, and I've seen the markets recover. I
think crypto is inevitable. So yeah, I'm just going all in. Yeah. Were you at that Bitcoin
conference the other day? No, we got so wrapped up here in Miami. I literally never leave Miami.
There's always something happening here.
Gideon was saying that too.
There's no point.
It's hard to beat this.
Yeah, well, I just, yeah, I don't want to.
I just love it here.
We got so wrapped up here.
But the president spoke there.
And RFK and a few other big ones.
Yeah, I mean, it's just huge.
Bitcoin, like I said,
Bitcoin has become an election issue.
That means it's going mainstream.
That means we're going to see adoption.
Donald Trump wants to create
some kind of like national reserve in bitcoin that is so bullish how you can be bearish
right now doesn't make any sense um so yeah i think i think the next few months are going to
be not even the next few months the next few weeks are going to be really big for crypto yeah
a lot of politics going on right now have you voiced out who you support and everything like
that i mean yeah i support trump over kamala harris right but do i support trump like do i think trump is this savior
that's going to save the world no you know i'm not i'm not um convinced that he's not controlled
opposition i don't think any politician is um is going to save you i think people have to focus on
saving themselves buying into things like bitcoin, which is completely decentralized, you know, no central authority can can manipulate it,
you can't inflate away anyone's money. That to me is where people should put their time,
their attention and their interest into, you know, Donald Trump, he was the one that started the
lockdowns, you know, Donald Trump was pushing the covid vaccine so things like this don't necessarily make me you know in love with him as a president but he's definitely a better option
than yeah than kamala and especially with the whole biden administration how anti-crypto they've
been you know um they basically want to push crypto out of america completely which would put
america right at the back um of innovation which obviously isn't a good idea. So yeah, I'm excited
for what Trump's going to do for crypto, but I don't think he should be your savior. Yeah, I agree.
Yeah, the SEC has gone after every American crypto exchange. Yeah, all of them, which is so funny,
because the SEC puts itself on a pedestal as this institution, which is going to protect
retail investors. We protect you, we help you. you yet so many scams have happened you know they were working closely with sandbank mifreda and ftx
for six months and that just rugged people got wrecked people lost their life savings what is
the sec actually doing the sec um find block fire like a hundred million dollars and block fire went
bankrupt and because they had money secured with um ftx so it was kind
of like a like a dominoes effect right one goes down they all go down and perhaps block fi would
actually be able to pay back uh customers and creditors if the sec didn't find them hundreds
of millions you know so it's just it's it's like a they're not doing anything they're not protecting
anyone people are just getting wrecked left right and center with all of their uh regulations i got wrecked on celsius you did
well exactly on celsius as well people got completely wrecked on celsius so it's like
what are you doing you're just fining people but you're not protecting people
they went after cz yeah cz's still in jail i think he's yeah i think he was gonna he's doing
four months that one to me was crazy because he doesn't even live here and they still got him.
Yeah.
Like that was just,
that just shows how much power they have, I guess.
Yeah.
I think CZ is great.
I'm so pro CZ, you know.
There's always like those jokes on Twitter
where it's like, you know,
CZ ran so the rest of us could walk.
You know what I mean?
Like he created this huge casino for all of us,
which is what crypto really is now, right?
It's like this huge casino for all of us to trade, make money. And it's a lot of fun. And he created all of us which is what crypto really is now right it's like this huge casino for all of us to trade make money and it's a lot of fun and he created all of that for us so yeah he you
know cz ran so the rest of us could walk shout out to cz man if you're watching this love to
have you on the pod what's it like being a female in the crypto space um it's cool you know i think
it's like a double-edged sword so being a female yeah being a female in crypto is definitely a
double-edged sword the first thing is it's an advantage because you're different um you know
it's mainly male dominated so naturally men are gonna listen to you and you're gonna catch their
attention a lot more right but at the same time if you try and say something intellectual intelligent
um if you try and like do something different or entrepreneurial they will laugh at you
you know because a lot of the time they put you in a box of like oh you're just a pretty woman
like that's your job in the space you you just be pretty and you just talk about bitcoin okay
that's all you're allowed to do but as soon as like i want to do something different you know
like for example um i remember i dropped the word alpha and everyone was like laughing it's like
what lei is not allowed to say alpha like i have access to a lot of alpha either you want the alpha you don't want the alpha but i'm notia's not allowed to say alpha? Like I have access to a lot of alpha.
Either you want the alpha or you don't want the alpha,
but I'm not allowed to say that.
But I don't mind, you know, it's good fun.
And at the end of the day,
it still gives you a competitive advantage.
I think that's all that matters in business,
that competitive advantage. For sure.
You got to be one of the biggest females in the space.
Do you think?
I don't know many others.
Do you?
No, I guess so.
I don't know.
No, I literally can't think of anyone else.
That's interesting. And that never really occurred to me. know no i literally can't think of anyone else interesting
and that never really occurred to me yeah i literally can't think of anyone else no lgbtqs
in the space we do have some lgbtqs yeah yeah yeah but it's funny because um that's obviously
very it goes against like a lot of what crypto is right because crypto is very much like fend for
yourself no victimhood mentality make your own own money, like, you know,
F the system and all of that.
Yet there was also like a sector of crypto,
which is kind of woke.
And it's a weird clash when it comes together,
because there are people who are like, you know,
Bitcoin for women, we're more women in Bitcoin.
And it's like, you know, gay people for Web3.
And it's like, it's just not the taste.
There's not really a taste for it.
Most people in crypto are very libertarian.
Not that it doesn't mean they can't be LGBT,
but they just don't go hand in hand.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Crypto, I think are like nerdy kids, introverts,
you know, not as social.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's like the opposite.
Yeah, for sure.
I mean, I think the point is that LGBT
is very much pushed by the
establishment and crypto is anti-establishment so people in crypto can smell that bullshit
far away right so when people start talking about like we need more women in crypto people are just
like yeah like that's just not like we're not interested in that we're interested in we need
more value in crypto we need more adoption you know if there's you know if one of the biggest
issues or one of the biggest issues I feel we have in crypto is
user experience. So if a woman can come in and fix that problem, then great, cool. But we don't need
more women in crypto. We just need more intelligent people that are going to help bring about mass
adoption and eventually pump our bags. Yeah, user experience is pretty tough.
Yeah, it's bad, isn't it? It's really bad on the decentralized platforms.
It's really bad um you
know and we we have a telegram chat where we post a lot of information different coins and things
like that and the biggest issue that we find new people have is navigating uniswap navigating the
different exchanges and that's how we have to help people that's the area you know where we coach
people we do tutorials we have a course about that.
So that is the biggest issue to mass adoption.
But I think that we'll get to a point with the economy
where it's just such a mess
and inflation is just so astronomical
that people don't really have a choice
and they'll be forced to learn.
And I think that's how adoption will happen.
People will be desperate for an alternative solution.
Yeah, was crypto big in the UK
where you lived out earlier?
We, in the UK, we do have a crypto community,
but it's not as big as it is in the US.
You know, it's fascinating.
In the US, everyone knows crypto.
Everyone's heard about it.
I think a lot of young people are more excited by it.
America always seems to be at the center of innovation.
The UK is just so behind you know i used to try and tell my friends about crypto and tell them oh yeah like look at
this platform you can get like x percent on your money every week it's wild obviously that those
were in the super early days so those kind of like percentage gains aren't really um available
anymore but they just weren't interested you know and that was one of the main reasons why i came to the states because i wanted to be around more like-minded people
um and talk about crypto people who want to make money and you have that more in the u.s yeah yeah
those percentages earlier on i was in cake oh yeah oh my gosh it's like 100 a year i think yeah it's
crazy even what was the one that rugged luna oh luna i was in that i got wrecked what was the was
it what was it called the uh the coin no
the the program the the staking program where people are earning like 20 a week yeah thank you
yeah anchor protocol yeah anchor protocol yeah that was like 20 nuts absolutely crazy and that
was stable coin too yeah exactly an algorithmic stable coin that was yeah that was crazy but um
yeah that rugs as well so that was like the first big rug i feel
like was that the first big rug wasn't it wasn't that like doquan yeah yeah i don't know if it was
the first big rug but yeah that's what brought down that was the beginning of the bear market
yeah that's what just made the entire thing just sink yeah are we still in a bear right now you
think no we've been in a bull we've been in bull market for you think no we've been in a bull we've been in a bull market for a long time we've been in a bull market since where are we now 2024 probably in a bull market
since like early 2023 really yeah because that's when everything started pumping you know actually
i would say we've been in a bull market since the end of 2022 when those four major US banks collapsed and Bitcoin rallied.
It went from like 19,000 all the way up to around 24, $25,000.
That's when the bull run started.
Damn.
We've been in a bull run for like a year and a half now.
Holy crap.
Right.
Because what is a bull run?
Price go up.
We're nearly at all time highs,
which is why I don't know why everyone's panicking.
Only the other day we were at $70,000.
I think what's happened is we got the Bitcoin spot ETF
really early in the cycle.
We got it before the halving.
Never before have we seen Bitcoin break all-time highs
before a halving.
And so that put us way further ahead
of where we should have been.
It creates a lot of euphoria, a lot of hype.
Everybody got very excited
and everybody thought that's it,
we're going up from here.
But we weren't because the market
just wasn't ready for it.
And I think that's kind of really messed
with people's heads.
But at the end of the day,
we're still on track doing the same thing
that we've always done.
We have the halving.
And like I said, we then have five months
of sideways actions, crashes, a lot of resistance.
And then we go up, that's what happened. We had the halving in May, 2020, and then we go up that's what happened we had
the halving in may 2020 and then we didn't break all-time highs until q4 of 2020 around like uh
around halloween it was yeah it was october 2020 that's when we broke all-time high so that's what
i'm expecting for this cycle as well very similar we had the halving again in may 2024 and i think
we'll go on to break all-time highs
at the end of this year. Wow. So hold on tight, guys. Right. People should be buying, you know.
And I always say that you have to look at the charts. Like you have to look at history.
History is the best indicator of what's going to happen next. No, it's not necessarily going to be
exactly the same, but it's what we have to go go by and it's done the same thing every single cycle we have this five months of uncertainty a lot of fear a lot of uncertainty
and doubt and then we go on to break all-time highs right so i don't think any kind of war
potential world war three is gonna is gonna stop that do you do a lot of technical analysis
i don't really do ta i prefer to look at um you know the the macro so i'll look at like
what's going on geopolitically um because obviously wars do affect the price right but ultimately and
what we've seen in history is people tend to run to bitcoin as that safe haven so yeah although
we're waiting for iran to strike back at israel, there's riots going on in the UK, it's the election year.
You know, everything's sort of up in the air right now.
We still have a war going on between Russia and Ukraine.
I don't think that that's going to affect it.
In the short term, it might.
But again, like I said, people will run to Bitcoin as that safe haven.
Yeah.
We saw that's exactly what happened when, you know, Russia invaded Ukraine.
The exact same thing happened.
The market started pumping.
Yeah, Bitcoin started pumping.
Always happens.
There were riots in Hong Kong.
Bitcoin started pumping all the time because you have to understand where are people going
to put their money?
They don't want to leave it in a bank because banks shut down.
Banks go bankrupt.
There are bank runs.
We see people out in Lebanon, for example, standing outside their bank trying to get their money out. But there's no money there, right? we see people out in in lebanon for example standing
outside their bank trying to get their money out but there's there's no money there right
we see it happen in turkey you don't want that for yourself and also what if you want to flee
your country what if you want to run you know leave a war zone people a lot of people were
taking their bitcoin when they left uh ukraine they were going uh other places to avoid the war
and everything that's going on they left with their bitcoin so people take people take their bitcoin wherever they go did you have someone that taught you all
this or you kind of just learned on your own um so i used to work as a journalist in malta
covering crypto yeah i was covering crypto so it was really great because i got to do what you were
doing which is ask all the questions so i got to speak to a lot of different experts and just take
all their knowledge you know just absorb everything
um and then you spend enough time online reading and also experiencing for yourself you know i
think my biggest like orange pill moment was covid because then i really understood if governments
can stop you from leaving your home if governments can force you to take a vaccine that you don't
want to take if they can stop you from seeing family you know if they can inflate away your
money quite literally then you know they have complete control of you.
The only thing that they can't do is take away your Bitcoin. And that to me was really
like an eye opening moment. Then I realized it was like an aha moment.
Wow, that's cool. And then you started interviewing some of the most notable people in the world and
got their opinion. And it's probably similar to what you learned. Right. I interviewed CZ.
That was great.
I interviewed Alex Mashinsky,
who is he on the run or is he in jail?
I think he's on the run.
That's the Celsius guy, right?
Yeah.
You interviewed him?
Yes, many times.
Did you get any weird vibes?
Yeah, I did.
Really?
Yeah, everyone.
No one liked Mashinsky.
Wow.
Like you speak to anyone in the crypto space.
No one liked Mashinsky.
I'll tell you a story. I
was at the Bitcoin conference a couple of years ago and he asked me for an interview. So I was
like, okay. And then his guy came to get me and he walked me from like one side of the conference to
the complete other side of the conference. I don't know what happened, but I got there and he was
just like, eh, nah. What? It was like, I was i was like what do you mean you just got your guy to walk me like 10 minutes and i'm in heels like he's just like a weird just like a
weird guy nobody nobody got good vibes damn yeah and like block fi and uh celsius were competitors
and everybody preferred block five over celsius purely because of mishinsky nobody liked him
wow how was cz so nice i bet everyone loves cz he's such a great guy he bought my book
on dressing bitcoin damn yeah he bought it and then he read it and then he posted it on twitter
so he he's a really great guy he's like a he's like a man of the people you know he wants to
lift people up um i actually had lunch with him in london um he's a really great guy i have i think
he's amazing and yeah i think it's a shame that he's in jail i hope he comes back yeah he will but he'll i think he'll just do something completely different but cc is like the
face of crypto you know he literally has to come back yeah him and spf were the faces oh you know
i would say spf is a face of crypto because he's he he was so new into the space not new into the
space but he was so new as a name he like he was in one day and out the next day you know what i
mean yeah they hyped him up yeah he was just which day and out the next day you know what i mean yeah they
hyped him up yeah he was just which is also a huge red flag like i never had any money on ftx
they all hyped him up it was so weird it was odd yeah the pr campaign that was he was propped up
by the establishment and the reason i think that spf was propped up by the establishment is because
they were working really closely with regulators.
And the government, in my opinion,
wanted to have FTX as like the crypto arm of the establishment, you know,
basically making sure all crypto in the United States
goes through FTX so that they have an eye on everything
and they can control everything.
They can regulate everything.
But it didn't quite work out that way.
And I think the biggest question mark that I have is how do you work that closely with regulators for six months
and you know the sec gary ginsler doesn't realize that ftx is just a black hole yeah that was super
odd yeah something went on there oh yeah they knew in my opinion they knew about it so i'm sure they
did did you ever interview him, SPF?
No, I didn't.
He was really difficult to get hold of.
Like he was really difficult to get in touch with,
which also makes him a bit of a red flag.
So let's take CZ, for example.
I can text CZ.
I can DM CZ.
He's so accessible to me, right?
Because he makes himself accessible
because he actually wants to help
and add value to the space and create a community, right?
SPF is just so inaccessible.
Like you have to be the establishment.
You have to be like, you know,
mainstream media in order to interview SPF.
Yeah, that's a huge red flag.
It really is, you know?
And I like, it's the same with Elon Musk, right?
Elon Musk is accessible.
I can DM Elon Musk and he'll respond. He'll hop on a Twitter'll respond he'll hop on a twitter space right get on a twitter space like
since they're praising elon i feel like we should use x you know you can hop on an x space and you
know he'll answer he'll answer your questions he's a man of the people when somebody becomes
inaccessible that is a huge red flag and that tells me that number one you have something to hide
and number two you are not someone of the people absolutely you also interviewed the faces of the red pill movement
did that change your opinion on dating and lifestyle at all i think that i definitely enjoyed
interviewing um people in the red pill movement um i definitely think it opened my mind to like the male perspective.
But what I will say is
a lot of them have a very warped view of reality.
You know, what you write down on paper
can be what you write down on paper,
but what happens in reality and in real life
is completely different.
You know, they talk about how like men
prefer younger women and all
this stuff like i just see the opposite in reality really yeah i mean like take logan
poole for example like he married a 30 year old woman oh i didn't know she was older okay yeah
that's why that's also why everyone was it was uh dumping on them because he married like a woman
who was apparently damaged goods or whatever so my my point is, I just keep seeing the opposite happen in reality.
So it was enjoyable and interesting,
but that's just not how the real world works.
You can't help who you fall in love with.
You can't help who you connect with.
And that's what I've been seeing.
So it was interesting,
but that's all it is.
You have to take it with a pinch of salt.
Yeah.
Was that more of a debate
or did you just interview them?
No, I mean, do you know what what i'm not going to argue with them because i think that isn't very good uh optics for me like for me if i'm sitting there arguing with a man it's just
it's just gonna prove their point you know like oh we don't like women who do podcasts
that's the whole format of the show right so i'm not gonna argue it's just more interesting to listen and to hear um i wouldn't argue like well i would ask questions you know um but i don't see
the point in arguing it just adds fuel to it i think it's gotten a bit extreme yeah i mean they
the red pill movements say what they say in order to get more views and to get clicks and to um you
know offend people and a lot of the time you know we talk about toxic masculinity or like well like how men aren't allowed to express themselves men
aren't allowed to be men it's created a community of a lot of weak fragile men who desperately need
some kind of savior and that's what the red pill movement became and it basically became the exact
same thing as feminism toxic feminism yeah it was like the counter to it.
Right.
It became women hating.
And in reality, like most good men that I meet,
they don't really care, you know?
About age or?
I mean, about many different things.
Like for example, the Red Pill movement says like,
I'll never get married because I have a podcast.
I might've taken that for like a split second to heart, right?
And then like I meet men and they're
like wow I love that you have a podcast wow that means that you're intelligent that means that
you're hard working wow you're gonna have something really useful to teach my children
right you know and I'm like oh wow so so you do like smart women yeah Leia of course I like smart
women like I wouldn't want to like hang around someone you know if I'm going to spend the rest
of my life with someone what I want her to be like dumb and what am I going to talk to her about
what's she going to teach my kids when I'm not around you know so it I'm going to spend the rest of my life with someone, what I want her to be like dumb. And what am I going to talk to her about? What's she going to teach my kids when I'm not
around? You know? So it was really interesting to hear, to hear what these red pill guys had to say
on the podcast and then go into the real world and see how life actually plays out. And it's not
quite as they said it. Yeah. I think they have, well, they're 1% men. So maybe it could be slightly different. Well, that's a funny comment because there's,
so I won't name names, but I'm just not going to name names.
There's a guy, you know, who's really into the whole red pill movement.
And he'll basically call any man like, oh, you're high value.
Like, just because you're a man, you know, like, oh, you have a podcast, you're high value.
Oh, you're a 1% man because you have a podcast.
It's like, bro, like that man that you're calling like high value is in his 40s he's overweight and he's still not
married he can't be that high value you know you got to factor in everything not just money
yeah because you can make a million a year but if you're fat and like you have no personality
yeah and you know what like we're here in miami do you know how many men make millions here
common right right like oh cool you make millions like i also make money so like your money doesn't impress me what else
have you got you know yeah for someone like you that must be tricky actually because you make
money right so you're it's not just about money for you no not at all like money is great you
know because for me i want i want somebody that can have i'm not going to downgrade my lifestyle
right so we have to like at least
maintain or increase my lifestyle but money isn't everything you know i'm far more interested in
like a man's character you know like you can you can have millions but if you're weak and i'm
braver than you i have more discipline than you i'm smarter than you i don't care how much money
you have yeah it's about character at the end of the day i heard dating's tough in the western i've been in the same relationship for seven years
so i never had to deal with this but i heard it's rough i mean is dating rough you know what i think
that you you put in you get what you put in so if you're gonna be in the clubs acting degenerate
not bringing anything to the table then i I think that you're going to receive
the same thing back.
But if you set the intention,
you know, and you're a good person,
you have good morals, good values,
you've got your life in order,
you're going to attract the exact same thing.
And actually, I think dating is great in Miami.
Really?
Yeah, because it attracts a lot of entrepreneurs,
a lot of high earners a lot of
disciplined people i always say when you come to miami you either do that one of three things well
two or three things either you you party and you get addicted to drugs or you get really fit and
you get really rich that's all that happens in miami either you build a business and get really
rich you get really fit or you get addicted to drugs right so miami either you build a business and get really rich you get really fit
or you get addicted to drugs right so pick either either you go in the club and then you'll meet
somebody who's also as degenerate as you or you'll get really fit get really rich hang around with
those types of people and you'll find the same type of person miami attracts the best of the
best in my opinion there's a lot of solid people out here say that again there's a lot of solid
people here like it wasn't hard finding podcasts out here yeah i mean there's a
lot of people here who are who have who are very driven who are very intelligent very smart want to
um you know be healthy live a good lifestyle and i think that's great i think a lot of those types
of people are coming to miami so if you want to find a good partner i believe miami is the place
i know it's controversial because everybody thinks like it's so degenerate but like I keep saying you get what you put in
if you're degenerate you attract degeneracy yeah if you're acting good and you're you know doing
the right things you'll attract the same thing I like that yeah but you see the comments it's like
you're a 304 girl you know what I mean have you been called that before um maybe I'm not sure I
like I don't really I don't really do anything to be called a 304
yeah so i don't i don't really get it yeah i mean if i if i was like you know dressed badly
and like dancing terribly you know and doing something gross or whatever then maybe but like
i'm not you know i'm having intelligent conversations you know getting healthy
working out doing business so i think if anyone were to call me a 304,
it's more of a reflection on themselves than me.
I feel that.
Let's end off with making money online.
You interviewed Luke Belmar.
Yeah.
He's like the king of that.
What have you done to find ways to make money online
other than crypto?
You know, I would say learn a skill.
If you don't have any capital to put down right now
to invest into anything,
I would say learn a skill and start monetizing that you know right now we live in this media world where every single
business is basically a media company whatever you do you could be a dentist and you need to
create content you know you could be any any type of businessman you need to create content everyone's
creating content so i would say learn the skill of editing, learn how to film, learn how to do graphics,
learn how to do like overlays,
whatever it is,
learn a skill and start selling that skill.
You could charge 2K a month, right? And get five clients.
That's 10K.
It's so easy to make money online right now.
You just need to look at what do people need?
People need copywriters, right?
Like I could use a copywriter.
I'd pay someone 2K a month to just do all my copywriting.
Hit her up guys.
Hit me up.
Exactly.
You know, we need, you have to look at what are entrepreneurs doing?
They're sending out newsletters.
Okay, maybe I could write your newsletter.
They're putting out content.
Maybe I could edit your content.
What about setters?
You know, people are, people are always doing business in the DMs right now.
Maybe we need setters.
So you have to understand what do entrepreneurs need?
Learn that skill and DM them.
And when you DM them, don't write something long.
Hell no.
Don't write something long.
You have to write something short, sweet, and concise.
And show your work.
You know, people are busy.
People want quick, quick, quick.
Show them your work.
Give them examples.
If they like you, they'll hit you up.
Give them work for free.
That's also a really good one, you know?
Like we had somebody create a free ebook for us
and it was actually really great.
And as a result, we ended up paying him for further work.
So contact these entrepreneurs
and learn a skill and offer it for free.
And if they like it, they'll hit you up and start paying you.
I hate when it's that long ass paragraph,
they copy and paste it.
Yeah, and don't beg.
Never ever be a beggar.
Don't write, oh, I really need this job. Please do make your dm me me me me me have to consider what can i
do for you what value can i bring to your life and your business and that is how you can you can
start making money you can easily make 10k a month online from anywhere i pay 10k a month or now for
clips well there you go exactly because every single company is a media company whatever it is like i said you could be a dentist and you become a media company
people need content and we need thumbnails we need editors we need videographers we need
photographers you don't even need to be that good none of us are professionals out here you know
we're all just like young kids just trying to put something out there right the kid i
use just graduated college like exactly it doesn't matter how old you are kids just trying to put something out there, right? The kid I used just graduated college.
Exactly.
It doesn't matter how old you are.
You just got to learn a skill and get good at it and sell it.
Yeah, don't use age as an excuse.
Did you go to college?
I did.
Yeah, I studied journalism.
Oh, wow.
Well, you actually used it.
Yeah, I did.
I did.
Yeah.
I mean, I worked at the BBC for a bit.
Oh, yeah.
Did you tell Tate that?
Yeah, I think he knows that.
Yeah, I worked at the BBC. He's not a fan of the BBC.
Well, it was before Tate Days. It was before Tate that? Yeah, I think he knows that. He's not a fan of the BBC. Well, it was before Tate days.
It was before Tate days.
It was like in 2016, 2017.
Before they got compromised?
No, they've been compromised for a while.
Oh, they haven't?
Oh, yeah.
It's the BBC.
Yeah.
I worked for China's global TV network for a bit.
Whoa.
Yeah.
Damn, so you witnessed all this like behind the scenes.
Oh, yeah.
It's all contrived.
It's all manipulated. So, yeah, I witnessed all of it. So you were kind of told what the scenes. Oh yeah. It's all contrived. It's all manipulated.
So yeah, I witnessed all of it.
So you were kind of told what to say or how did it work?
Yeah.
So I lived in Paris and I was a journalist for China's global TV network.
And we were covering a story about Huawei, the phone.
And they were just banned in America.
So I wanted to ask them like, why were you banned in America?
Do you have any fears that you could be banned in Europe and France and I was told I wasn't allowed to ask that question and I had all
these Chinese people just staring at me as I interviewed uh somebody high up at Huawei and
I was told that it had to be a fluff piece but if it was real journalism it would have been why were
you banned in America you know will you be banned in Europe what are you doing you know and asking
the real questions but I wasn't allowed to ask that.
I was told specifically that it had to be a fluff piece.
That's terrible.
There's very few real journalists now that I respect.
Well, I don't respect any
because all journalists are political activists.
Even the ones, you know, on the right,
even the alternative media,
you know, like Tucker Carlson,
I really liked Tucker Carlson,
but he is a political activist at the end of the day.
So you have to hear what everyone has to say and then form your own opinion as a result or just don't watch any of it and
focus on making money and making your life better because ultimately whoever the president is
whatever they say on the media whatever war is going on in the world is not going to change your
life only you can change your life by you know how much money you make yeah and how you set yourself
up i will agree with that because tucker ever since he got fired has shown his true side now like i feel like he was holding back when he was sure
yeah to fox or whatever yeah that's definitely true yeah i mean he i don't think i'm like
surprised by anything but he is a political activist at the end of the day so yeah you do
have to take everything that he says in the spirit that it's meant yeah so. So now that X has brought back free speech with Elon,
do you see it getting a little intense on there?
Well, I'm so pro free speech,
but what I have noticed is every time I log into X right now,
it's just a lot of shitting on Jews and black people
is what I've noticed.
Everyone's hating on Jews and black people.
Like if you want to go viral right now,
you have to blame the Jews for something
and say something degenerate about black people. That is want to go viral right now, you have to blame the Jews for something and say something degenerate about black people.
That is how you go viral right now.
Damn.
What are they saying exactly?
So they're blaming the Jews for absolutely everything.
So you know the Hawk tour girl, Hayley Welch, right?
So she went crazy viral.
She's making a lot of money right now.
And guess what?
Turns out she's Jewish.
So everyone's having like a field day with that
and saying that she's some kind of industry plant.
And then it goes further than that
because she's also Ashkenazi Jewish,
which means she's from European descent.
So now people are saying,
oh, because she's, you know, blonde hair and blue eyes,
she doesn't look Palestinian.
And they're going down the whole,
oh, you stole their land.
And it's just like a field day of hating on Jews right now.
That's how you go viral.
So, you know, you asked me earlier, how do you make money online just just hate on jews and like that's it you're gonna kill
it dang i wonder if that bobby altoff girl is jewish huh she probably might be jewish actually
should we check we might have to check that live let me have to i'm gonna check that right now
holy crap bobby what's how do you what's her last name a l t i think it think it's h oh let's have a look let's find out i wonder if
she's jewish oh here we go the rap music plug podcast on x is of jewish descent yep she's
apparently she's of jewish descent here we go bobby altof reveals how she got drake to interview
oh i don't know yeah apparently she's of Jewish descent. That's what I'm reading.
So there you go.
Well, there you go, guys.
We're gonna have a filled day with that one as well,
you know?
Yeah.
But it's crazy because like I logged on to X the other day
and somebody had written,
you know, I've never met a broke Jewish person.
And I just had to unfollow them
because I was just like, just go to the UK.
You know, there's so many broke Jewish people there.
But yeah, that's how you go viral.
Yeah, because as Americans, we just witnessed the wealthy jewish people right right although like
the jews control the world that narrative is very much american centric if you just go to the uk or
go to england this jews aren't as big as big a part of the of the population um you know we're
not so integrated into the media and everything that you see in in america um you know there are a lot of broke jewish people so all this jews control
the world narrative is very american centric and it's definitely not true for like the rest of the
world but yeah if you want to go viral you just hate on jews yeah that's it when you interviewed
jake shields was he on this wave yet no jake was not on this wave yet but jake is having a field
date with hayley welch so as long as
jake's enjoying himself i'm happy for him i'll have to see a part two of you guys together yeah
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