Digital Social Hour - The Best Dunker of All Time | Kadour Ziani Digital Social Hour #93

Episode Date: September 3, 2023

I sat down with the best dunker of all time, Kadour Ziani to get into his training regimen and routing on how he can touch a rim with his foot. BUSINESS INQUIRIES: [e-mail] APPLY TO BE ON THE POD: https://forms.gle/qXvENTeurx7Xn8Ci9 SPONSORS: AG1: https://www.drinkAG1.com/DSH Hostage Tape: https://hostagetape.com/DSH --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/digitalsocialhour/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to the Digital Social Hour. I'm your host, Sean Kelly. I'm joined with my guest today, Kador Ziani. How are we doing? I'm good. You ready to go? Let's go. Let's do this. Wow. What an intro. That's crazy. Seven posture, man, it starts like this. So let's talk about the seven postures.

Seven posture. Is that one of them? Seven posture is, no, it's not one of them. Seven posture is all about the seat the seat because in this in the industry the fitness they are all about exercise and me i'm like i'm all about how to rest after exercising you need to rest you need to recover and all my posture is all about where are the spots to rest all your body, your tissue. I bring up this table to, I mean for me,

the best way, my best way to talk is to show, leading by example. So I'm sitting on my bones. My bones, they are like the one who are able in capacity to support all my tissue. So for me, resting means what? Means to give the opportunity to all my tissue to don't spend energy, to rest and to regenerate. Right. I mean, for me, you have three times. Before, during and after.

And before, during and after is mean, me I'm more about the before. Before to exercise. Joint mobilization. The capacity to rest. For me, this is the key. If I have to question the fitness, I'm going to ask him,

hey, when you sleep, are you spending energy or are you are you are you really resting because your brain is still like you know working you are I mean for me the best way to exercise is to stop thinking to stop asking to the tissue to hold to support all my muscle all my tissue so I'm gonna ask to the table the bones the skeleton to to sit on my bones that's the key when I when I start when I when I I has to I was like sitting on my my big toe is to really show that the bones are like the throne.

I have like seven bones on my body, seven bones. One, two, three, it's like one, two, three, four, five, six, and my head on the floor. That's the capacity to close your body, going to allow you to open. So for me it's all about this ability to rest, to recover, to really give the opportunity to all your tissues. The full recovery because it's like fasting, you know. When you stop moving, you are in automatic mode. The body is going to regenerate.

You're going to be refreshed. You're going to reload. You're going to charge up. You're going to reborn. You're going to be like, okay, I can sleep. Sleeping like death, the small death. Like the sleeping, you shut everything. No lights, no brains, working, nothing, you know?

Because for me, you need to maintain your potential. You need to maintain your functionality. You need to maintain everything. So after exercising, you need to honor those who honored you. You exercise, now it's time to sleep. And the only way to sleep is like, you know, I'm going to give you an example. The donkey is sleeping on his four feet. He's not using muscle to stay up way to sleep is like, you know, I'm going to give you an example. The donkey is sleeping in his four feet. He's not using muscle to stay up and to sleep.

He's using the bones. They don't lie down? No. Wow. They are not bending. It means what? It means if you use the bones to really rest, all my posture, like this posture, you know, I'm like sleeping on my what? On my bones.

Fibula here, fibula here. So I'm like resting. All my tissue, they are like, muscle, they are like really resting. So how do you sleep at night? What's your posture at night? My posture at night is sleep like this on the side. On the side. So I'm on my bones here, on my bones here, here, and on my bone, my head.

And you're on the floor or you have a bed on the floor okay on the floor you know I grew up like this you know and when I really when I sleep like this I really shut everything shut down I mean close the light close the energy no more activation so it's like automatic mode you have manual when the brain is working he's like you know he's like doing the job but when you sleep your brain is not he's not doing the job for your heart to boom you know to activate you know so this activate this automatic mode that's the mode I want for all athlete world-class athlete million-dollar

athlete or even people like most I mean simple people you know they need to really rest six hours sleeping six hours exercising because regenerative mode is an exercise that's the exercise you know that's crazy because more you rest more you can train you recover you regenerate you fresh i mean you wake up like you reborn i mean i was you i mean the small death this rest is like when you sit on your bones seven posture is like seven doors seven spot where you can relax and hey stop to think please you know put your brain on the floor and stop right and that's for me it's the key that's incredible so you have the world record for the highest kick you also have a 56 inch vertical jump how were you able to train your

body to do that did it take years life because i call it social tissue adaptation for me my life is like every single second is an opportunity to question, is an opportunity for me to train, to don't waste the time. For me, the first enemy is the wasting time. Time, you need to turn it like your friend. You need to take advantage of each second. Each second is a way to learn, to take advantage of it, to use it. And for me, I grew up like this, this crazy curiosity to make like this, you know, quantity for me.

I mean, the quantity for me, it's like the pennies that you add up to the dollar of quality. It's meant all those questions that you're gonna add up, that's gonna give you information of quality. You know, so it means every time you do a seven posture it's like seven questions you say you question your two ankle you question your knee you question your hands you know when when i say put all your body on your bones it's like you know i put you see

my hands i put all my body on the bones so i don't activate wow Wow. That's crazy. So I can, you know, for me, I'm deactivating muscle, you know. I'm sitting on those bones like I'm sitting on my big toe. You know? Wow. This is why, you know, when you have this capacity to rest

and to rest on your big toes, to sleep on your big toes, to die. I mean, you are like killing yourself from all this wasting energy. Wasting is the enemy. Wasting energy is the enemy. When you sleep, you need to stop using energy. So when you sleep on the table, the bones, the skeleton, you're gonna rest and you're gonna fully, you're gonna be on, you know like this,

like the heart is like survival mechanism, you know? You don't need to ask your heart to boom. You know, it's like all the survival system you have inside, that's gonna be like region or automatic way to recover Wow so how do you sit down normally when you're at home my home I'm sit like this I change this is the the position I call it the camel I call it the reload reload is like recharge each time when you use the I mean the floor to rest is the I mean you to rest, you are not resting, you are recharging, charge up. I call it reload because in the desert, my family, I'm coming from Arabic, the Berber,

in the desert they sit like this, they eat like this, that's the position to eat. They sit like this because in the desert you, that's the position to eat. No, they sit like this because you know, in the desert you have like all those animals, scorpions and snakes, so you need to get up. You need to, you know, I call it, you know, I call it also the, you attach your camo, I mean, you have this capacity to put your knee on your chest, this flexibility we need to get up, you know, and you we need to get up, you know.

And, you know, all those postures, they are like primal posture, ancestral posture. They're related to stone ages, you know. People, they were like sitting like this. You know, you see when you have, if you have a baby, you can see all those kids on the floor. The floor life they have returned to the floor because the energy comes from the floor. The floor life they have returned to the floor because the energy comes from the floor. And when I say you don't need to ask your body to create energy, to generate energy, the floor is the energy. You need to absorb energy. So it means what? It means don't be smart to create energy, Just put your body on the floor.

Absorb it. Grounding. And ground it. Right. That's the secret is the ground. The floor is the mirror. You're going to have your face. You're going to see yourself.

You're going to tell about you. Right. You're going to let your body talk. Don't talk instead of the body. So when you put your bones on the table on the floor you're gonna have like you're gonna build up internal language the body will tell and don't tell instead don't talk instead of the body the body know everything this is the book this is the this is Vegas is inside you know this is the bank this is

the the church this is the kingdom this is the throne seven throne when i can sit seven throne two ankle two knee two hands and my head you know right because it's like this you know you see the the modern world it's a lot of information about how how to exercise but how to rest. How to rest, I mean. No one teaches that. No. Yeah. And for me, the seven posture,

it was a really simple posture, you know. When I start my first posture, it's like you are on the bed. This is the first posture. As soon as you are on the bed, you do like this. And you dorsiflexion of the toes. You know, you do this. And then you do it like this.

Wake up. I mean, it's like a body awakening, a body checkup, as soon as you wake up, and then you go with the cow. The cow, the second posture like this. And then you have the frog. The frog is like this. And then you have the camo like this. Camo.

See? And then the camo, you have the do like this. Camo. See? And then the camo, you have the dorsiflexion of toes, the grasshopper, you know? This is the key. That looks painful. The missing link. Wow. Because, you know, in the game industry, the fitness industry, in the locomotion industry,

they are talking about triple flexion. One, two, three. But they forgot about this. The foot? toe oh the toe the big toe the Alux the first digit they call it the first digit the Alux that's the key really the gold because with this you unlock all your knee because from this you're gonna activate you're gonna unlock the peroneus linguus, this tibia. You know, you're going to activate, lock up the quad, lock up the soleus, tibialis, and this is the key for the game performance. Wow.

And this is because, you know, what's funny, you know, I was like in Utah in the All-Star weekend, and I meet Gary Vee, you know, and I show him my book, and I say, hey, man, I am the mentor of Ben Patrick, Knees Over Toes, because he know him. I was like, oh, really? Oh, man. And I gave him the book, and I say, I'm a master of fascia. I'm a master of fascia. He say, really?

Me too. I like fascia. I'm doing it. I say, whoo, what? I said, let's go. So we get up on the floor, and I show him this movement. I show him this. And he did it.

Wow. He's a fucking driving master of fascia too. And he was like, man, I got you, man. And then I was like, OK, Gary, let's go. We go outside. I put the ball on the basket, on the hoop bus. My friend from L.A., they drive the hoop bus over there. My people from L.A., Nick, Anson, and I kick the ball out of the rim, you know.

And he was like, fuck animal, man. You know, Gary, you know. He pumped me like I can tell, man. That's awesome. He's also a fascia-driven fascia master, you know, fascia-driven master because, you know, he knows about, you know, this connective tissue. I mean, the particularity of the fascia, it's new.

You know, it's five years ago. They're now ago they now all they are like talking about the fascia fascia is all those connective tissue right i mean you this is why you know you see gary like talking like blah blah blah like no no wasting energy is like yeah yeah 7g all over the place me i'm seven posture me him is like 7g i mean like very quick fast and super high definition of connection you know like yeah but the body is related because i saw i was like oh you about the fascia okay let's let's perform and he showed me some stuff like okay i'm impressed you know because you know about the body have to sweat the knowledge. The body have to produce this connective tissue. And we send information. It's like the big toe until here from the ground to the head.

That has to be like really fast. He got it. So I was like, man, you are a master. Yeah, that's insane. He's almost 60. What do you think of yoga? You think it's overrated? No, no.

Yoga is cool because it's a first step to, man, everything related to the floor, I approve. Okay. And it's not enough because after yoga, you need to know how to move and not only on the floor, in the air, you know, and also exercise. Because me, I'm like preparing people to exercise, joint mobilization, connection, connective tissue. You know, like these people, they are like thinking like a chain, kinetic chain, you know.

And after, man, hey, after exercise, use it. Use it for what? Play soccer, dunk the ball, dance. I don't know, you know, but yoga is not, for me, it's like it's the first step to then add more stuff. Right. That's connective tissue and also to have to build up this relation, internal relation with your body.

Right. Because this is the key. Talk to your body. Respect your body. Please. the key talk to your body respect your body please we are all talking about love can you love your respect your body and give him like some time to rest and to listen can you listen to him hey put your brain on the floor on the side and can you let it talk and you know yoga is about this so I'm but it's not enough.

Man, I want to push it more because I want high performance. You know, when you have all those, you build up all those connective tissue, you build up this super crazy connection. Hey, it's time to kick the ball. It's time to jump. It's time, you know, to, because you become like a master because you achieve the domination. You know your body and then the mastery. You use it like crazy because the body is perfect. This is the domination. You know your body. And then the mastery. You use it like crazy.

Right. Because the body is perfect. This is the book. Read it. Read it. This is the book. You don't have nothing to write except rather to read.

So you have everything. This is the crazy equipment. I was in a podcast with Mark Bell. I told him, man, you have a super crazy gym. That's amazing. But the gym is in here. He said that. Yeah, I him, man, you have a super crazy gym. That's amazing. But the gym is in here. He said that.

Yeah, I know, Cador. The gym is in here. Because everything is a way to up this super equipment. And we messed up because you use the equipment to exercise, but you don't respect him. You don't give him food to rest. You don't give him the floor to rest You don't you don't try to to to see to ask if he have like I

Mean maybe problem, you know, if he's stiff if he's you know, we don't we don't respect I mean respect for me is like Ask the permission control. I mean buddy. I mean self-diagnostic has the permission to your body seven posture is a seven question question your knee question your ankle question your knee question your your hands and question your upper body right that's the key and in the fitness what we need is like this intellectual honesty humbly i'm sitting here you know on the floor right like a king because this is the throne that's the kingdom when you become a master you're going to sit on your own throne you're going to sit on you know on this on the floor sit yeah the floor yeah that's the energy

that's awesome how can someone fix poor posture because i slouch a lot i have scoliosis and i slouch a lot so how can people fix poor back posture you know the most important is to try die trying step small step microdose go on the floor try know who you are first the floor is a way to know who you are. Then try to become better day by day, you know, managing the signal of pain. If you can, you know, because, you know, if you have like bad functionality,

just try to don't make it worse. So go to the floor and try to maintain your level and maybe make it better, you know. But step by step, slow it down slow it down slow process calm down micro dose i'm like 10 seconds in what one posture 10 seconds 10 seconds 10 seconds and every day because what the key is what repetition right you know in my my philosophy

is really simple we We have two soldiers. Time, first is the time. Because, you know, by the time, we're all going to die. That's the only one certainty that no one can deny. We're going to die. Death only happens to those who have lived. So it means what? Time provides.

Use the time to build up patience. That's the two soldiers. Time and patience. Right. That's the two soldiers you have. Everybody have this. They have two tools. Repetition, self-discipline, and repetition.

So by self-discipline, every day, every single day. Microdose, not too much. Not try to break your soul. You like this to your soul. Microdose. Self- much, you know? Not try to break your soul, you know? Lead like this to your soul, you know? Microdose. Right. Self-discipline every day. Five times a day, seven times a day,

20 times a day, microdose. Everywhere. No equipment. You are the equipment. Right. So, self-discipline, microdose, repetition, and you're going to have like what? You're going to achieve achieve be close to two drives

domination and mastery domination man by repeating every day you're going to start to understand you're going to start to to know so you're going to start to because when you understand you're going to master your emotion you're going to master your body you're going to control it better you're going to use it better. So Two drives domination and mastery be the master be the king of this drive it good, you know, right? so means what when you have Everybody have no excuse everybody have to to soldier everybody have two tools everybody have two drives and

The only one direction is you so you were able to achieve a 56 inch vertical without any gym equipment just your own body see yes my my body equipment wow because most people are squatting they're dead lifting my my body equipment my body is my own i hold i my own problem. I lift my own gravity. It's enough for me. So you did plyometrics? Yeah, plyometric, isometric, concentric, eccentric. I do all those overcoming like Bruce Lee, like the six-second L-sit like this. Six-second L-sit, OV-sit.

This is overcoming isometric. It's like you go after the brain. The brain says, hey, stop, I can't. You go further. You control your brain. And you don't cause too much damage into your muscle fibers. And this is crazy because you can do micro-dose, like small six seconds, six seconds, six seconds,

and I build up seven postures like this micro dosing i mean like maintaining withholding some some weight kettlebell you know and i did all that shit simple stuff wow those posture they are like really simple you don't have you don't risk damage so all those million dollar athlete they can see if they have the capacity to close and then the capacity to explode, to generate energy. So, mobility for me is not to stretch. No, mobility is to close. Close like this, to bend everything.

Yeah, yeah. Like a seed, like fatal rebirth. I call it fatal rebirth, this frog. Fatal rebirth. When you are like this you have like self-diagnosis you're going to question your body this is the position to question question the ankle question the knee question the hip you know every day you need to question right seven questions every day you you and you do so i achieved six i put my neck on the rim you know

and i kicked the rim so i put my foot on the rim it's like 10 feet yeah you're the only one i know that could do that you could kick the rim i can kick the rim i call it kick the dream because everything anything is possible yeah you know i'm i'm 49 three years ago i looked through i fully looked you mike i killed tandem ground zero thank you that's not the ground zero that's the ground alpha and omega. You know, the table. All you can do. This is the floor.

The floor is the energy. We come from the floor. I'm going to get back on the floor. I'm going to work on it. Wow, so you tore your Achilles, you said? Wow. How did you do that? I slept on the, I slept.

And me, when I start, I'm using so much energy because I'm pushing with all. Did you see my big toe? I'm pushing with this, you know. This is the grasshopper. We do the podcast. I'm like in grasshopper because I'm working on my. And this allowed me to restore by myself.

Wow. So you didn't need surgery? No. Yeah, I got surgery. Oh, cool. And then the rehab, i do all my posture every day on the floor wow and that was a crazy opportunity for me to say okay that's the kiss of death when you have this injury achilles yeah that's the worst one right 40 i was

46. yeah kobe bryant had that one yeah and when you this at 46, and now look at what I'm doing. Wow. You see? And you're still dunking at 49. I'm still dunking. I'm barefoot. I'm still dunking on the floor. Yeah.

I like no one between me and the floor, you know? Yeah. Dude, it's been a pleasure, man. Any closing thoughts or where people can find out more about you? Man, that's the only thing I want to put on the table seven posture the only way for me to to help people to achieve the longevity to know their body to to have this close relation and to feel to feel happy everywhere to feel i mean liberate you know you have everything unlock it

unlock your understanding. You are not poor. You are not left behind. You know, love yourself. You know, go to the floor. You don't have nothing like me. You have everything. The book is here.

Read it. It's amazing. Kador, it's been a pleasure. I love talking to you today. Digital Social Hour. Thanks for tuning in, guys. See you next week.