Digital Social Hour - The Brutal 18-Hour Days That Built My Empire | John Malott DSH #620

Episode Date: August 10, 2024

🔥 Discover the untold journey behind the brutal 18-hour days that built John Malott's empire! 🚀 In this exclusive episode of the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly, John Malott reveals the relentless grind, sacrifices, and sheer determination that transformed his life from incarceration to entrepreneurial success. Don't miss out on this raw and inspiring story packed with valuable insights.   📺 Tune in now to hear John’s experiences, from his rough upbringing to building an empire through relentless work and strategic networking. He shares the highs and lows, the personal sacrifices, and the pivotal moments that defined his path. Whether you're an aspiring entrepreneur or just love a good comeback story, this episode is for you!   🙌 Join the conversation and get a behind-the-scenes look at the making of a true empire. Watch now and subscribe for more insider secrets. Hit that subscribe button and stay tuned for more eye-opening stories on the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! 🚀   #DigitalSocialHour #SeanKelly #Podcast #JohnMalott #Entrepreneurship #Hustle #SuccessStories #Inspiration #Motivation #WatchNow #Subscribe   #MentorshipInBusiness #SuccessStory #TipsForBuildingAnEmpire #HustleCulture #Brutal18HourDays   CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 00:40 - First Time Meeting John 01:30 - Life in Your 20s 05:45 - Growing Up in a Rough Area 13:25 - Relationship with Your Wife 17:00 - Cultural Clashes with Families 19:50 - Partying Phase 22:12 - Sacrificing Health for Money 24:39 - Making Arrangements at 40 25:29 - Body Shutdown at 40 28:16 - Boost Testosterone Naturally 29:14 - Future Kids Plans 31:30 - Public School Decisions 34:50 - Negative Thought Loops 37:24 - Final Thoughts   APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: [e-mail]   GUEST: John Malott https://www.instagram.com/john.malott   SPONSORS: Deposyt Payment Processing: https://www.deposyt.com/seankelly   LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It was those 12, 16, you know, sometimes 18 hour days that were the difference maker. While the people were, you know, like I hang out a lot now. People see the lifestyle now. But back then, you would never find me in a club. I wouldn't be at the beach. You know, it was like I was grinding. Wow. This shit had to happen.

We took all the televisions out of the house for five years. Damn. Because I was committed. My kids hated me. Wherever you guys are watching this show, I would truly appreciate it if you follow or subscribe. It helps a lot with the algorithm. It helps us get bigger and better guests,

and it helps us grow the team. Truly means a lot. Thank you guys for supporting, and here's the episode. Ladies and gentlemen, we are here with one of the first people I've ever met in the social media space, John Malott. Thanks for coming on, man. Yo, we finally, finally are making this happen. Dude, your networking event was the first one I ever went to in Arizona.

That was the very first one. The Build Your Empire one. Dang. Yeah. You know what's crazy about those events? Melissa out of Miami, she's running the Epic Talks. We've seen, and that was one of her first events ever. I've been around now to so many different podcasts and spoke at so many events

that say that Build Your Empire, that forum, was the catalyst for them to do these big things. Dude, look at me. I'm having events too now. Every month. Yeah, and you're killing it, man. I'm watching. I see it. I feel like a proud papa sometimes when I see this stuff. I'm like, yeah, I remember him when he was that.

You've been at it for a while. Long time, yeah we're going on three decades of yeah hustling so I'm curious about your 20s financially what was that like broke um well I was incarcerated so you know that was that was that was a challenge it kind of it inhibited my entrepreneurial uh drive yeah because I I had uh I had a lot of challenges young so i really what's crazy i really didn't get any momentum until i started really hustling after i was released 24 i realized bum or entrepreneur were really the only two options available because of criminal record and things like that right so it was until until about 30 when I started making some decent money as an entrepreneur. My first year as a full-time entrepreneur, I made four grand for the whole year.

So you can tell I just sucked like really, really bad. But I was determined. So I just stayed in the game, man. I think if there's a claim to fame that I have is I just never, never quit. Yeah. Never stopped. Did you have a good support system? No.

Really? No. Unfortunately not. My mom left when I was really young. My dad was a steel worker, great support person, but didn't have the wherewithal. What he instilled in me was a great work ethic. Right. Like go to work, man. Outwork everybody type stuff. Yeah, it wasn't like ailled in me was a great work ethic. Right. Like go to work, man.

Outwork everybody type stuff. Yeah. It wasn't like a knowledge. It was more just. Yeah. Which thank God that I got the work ethic part because I see a lot of people with knowledge, but they don't have the work ethic. Right.

Because you can get the knowledge, but if you don't have the work ethic, man, this is a bumpy road. I'm the same way. My first five years of entrepreneurship, work ethic. But then I went to seek knowledge and mentorship, going to events like yours, Dan Fleischman's and stuff. That's what you got to do, man. You have to. If you don't,

I see a lot of smart people that are not getting traction and not making big money because they're not putting in the deal. It was those 12, 16, sometimes 18-hour days that were the difference maker.

I hang out a lot now. People see the lifestyle now, but back then, you would never find me in a club. I wouldn't be at the beach. I was grinding. This shit had to happen. We took all the televisions out of the house for five years. I was committed. My kids hated me.

We actually read books man and played monopoly and stuff you know so yeah it's interesting yeah it was i did see you on another show talk about your first kid and you had some regrets there about not spending time yeah all of my i have four daughters so all of my kids got a different version of me right you know the lauren who just made me a grandfather but don't call me grandpa i'm trying to find a better name than grandpa it sounds too old um i just wasn't there because i was everywhere else i was wild and i was dealing with legal issues um i just yeah so she had she had it the toughest.

It's interesting because she is the kindest. You can just see the difference in her because she had the struggles. And then my next daughter had it a little bit better because I was starting to change my ways. And that was manifesting inside of the house. When I discovered, when I really got into personal development, when it's like, okay, because I always had kind of, from a drug rehab facility when I was 17 years old, a guy gave me a book, How to Win Friends and Influence People.

So I always had like one foot in personal development and one foot in the hood. One foot causing and wreaking havoc in the streets and one foot like, there's got to be gotta be a better, you know, scenario. So, so each, yeah, each daughter had it, had it better. Yeah. A lot of the parental stuff rubs off on the children without the kids even noticing. It really does. Yeah. I just found out recently that I had some childhood things I needed to address and I, I just got so used to it. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. And you know, you kind of block stuff out, you know, there's things

that came to light from my childhood that I was like i never even thought about right you know and i and that's part of the the mind is to protect ourselves sometimes from ourselves yeah you know we block this i have a short-term memory because you i think i have to have you got some trauma i do have some trauma bro yeah Yeah. You see that tear welling up in my eye? Oh, man. Yeah, you said you grew up in a rough area? Yeah, it was rough. You know, anytime you're the only one that looks like you look in an environment, you tend to be a little bit of a target. Right.

And that was, you know, that was my scenario. Dang. But, you know, it made me strong. It builds. You have to become courageous. I couldn't go to high school because it was separated by the way you wore your hat. Really? The colors that you wore in your neighborhood. Holy crap.

In the high school that I was bused to, it wasn't my people, so to speak. And so I couldn't be in the hallways when everybody else was in the hallways because it was a dangerous situation. Holy crap. That is crazy. And they would be waiting by my locker. So, you know, eventually I stopped going to high school.

Damn. Yeah, you hear these stories of if you wear, like, red in the wrong neighborhood, it's a threat. Yeah, you know, back then it was was are you interested in coming on the digital social hour podcast as a guest we'll click the application link below in the description of this video we are always looking for cool stories cool entrepreneurs to talk to you about business and life click the application link below and here's the episode guys you know latin kings black gangster disciples and vice

laura and so i was even when i was in my neighborhood it was fine but it was just weird you know when i look back it's like what a weird deal yeah like that is interesting you've separated neighborhoods based on weird shit so you didn't have a clique like a tribe of guys young guys to hang out with you i did i did but when when i would go into different neighborhoods or different environments they weren't always there wow so that's when issues would arise and then later on like i i've always had a little bit of a challenge with authority so even in my own click i would they would have these what are called violations you know because i violated rules and all the rules to me seem so like who came Who really came up with these rules?

I just wanted to party, have a good time, and meet girls. That was kind of my thing. What was the rule you violated? I would disrespect... Manny Fuentes, if you're out there listening, Manny Fuentes was the second leader of our little clique. And I would... I just would talk shit.

And one time, Manny brought it up at Lupe Pineda's house at a meeting. Man, you're remembering first and last names here. I remember all of it, bro. That was traumatizing. You know, because you're beat. Like, you're beat, physically beat. Oh, shit.

Yeah, and it was at a party, so it's in front of girls that you like. Damn. That is traumatizing. It's embarrassing, and yeah, it was, yeah. Damn. That's a rough neighborhood, yeah. I got trauma from just saying the wrong things to girls, but you're getting beat up in front of girls.

That's a whole nother level. Yeah. It wasn't, it wasn't pretty. Sometimes they felt bad for me afterwards. So there were some benefits later on, but how'd you eventually escape that stuff? Um, entrepreneurship. And there was a point and really I had, I had a heart attack from smoking cocaine at 17 years old.

Holy crap. And it, and it seems like a major, it was attack from smoking cocaine at 17 years old holy crap and it and it seems like a major it was a blessing you know looking back that was that was really the catalyst 15 years old was my first felony arrest so that was the first time i was incarcerated as a as a juvenile for robbing a movie theater and in that facility it didn't change there was no rehabilitation matter of fact we just talked about how we would be better criminals coming out it was And in that facility, it didn't change. There was no rehabilitation. Matter of fact, we just talked about how we would be better criminals coming out. It was like there was no like it wasn't that we were not going to commit crimes or we were remorseful for the crimes we committed. It was an incubator to make you a better criminal.

Wow. But the drug rehab is where a man came into my life. Former outlaw motorcycle gang member Dave, you know, changed my life forever. He was the first guy who, number one, said, stop being a victim. And I never thought of myself as a victim, but he said all of my language suggests I'm a victim because I blamed everybody. My mom left.

You know, we didn't have money. The police. Of course, it's interesting how I didn't have issues with the police after I stopped committing crimes. The police were terrible when I was committing crimes. I hated them. They were unfair. Teachers, of course,

because I dropped out of high school. It just went on and on. It was, and he said, stop being a little biatch, basically. You know, it's you. And he basically said, you made an appointment to be here. You can blame everybody else. But, you know it's you and he basically said you made an appointment to be here you can blame everybody else but you know he said for you the bad news is you made the appointment to be here the good news is i can help you make a new appointment and then he was the guy who gave

me the book how to win friends influence people classic man it was my i didn't know that information existed and you know i lost my sister to heroin overdose at 21 when she was 21. My brother, he's been in and out of trouble his whole life. He's two years younger than me. Looks like he's 30 years older than me and just, he just can't get it together. And I think a lot of that is responsibility coming out of there. I still didn't take responsibility, but the seed was planted. So I started to evaluate the things I evaluated my contribution to my problems instead of saying it's you or that person. Right. And it's so easy to be like that, man. I was like that too, growing up. So easy. I mean, it's just easy. You put the blame on someone else and you're

good. Yeah. I'm going to keep rolling. Yeah. But to take accountability, people still struggle with that right now, even in their adult years. I know a lot of grown, grown people, you know, I always like people think that, um,, you know, I, I always like people think that, um, age has something to do with wisdom. Like they think because you're older, you're wiser. I said, no, there's a lot of dumb old people, you know, it's, it's evaluated experiences. It's not even just experiences that make you wiser. It's evaluated. It's like do something and then evaluate it. And that's what I've learned to do every time. Like we leave here, I'm always doing plan, do review every Friday. My wife and i do a plan do review session we review the

week we plan out the next week and then we go crush it wow the week and so yeah and that's a way to evaluate all of your experiences that you're having like we just got back from dubai and by the way amazing amazing place i need to get out there oh you'll it's from an off for any entrepreneur to go there and don't just go there to see all the incredible things they've built. But we did a deep dive into like the back end, like the family that's been there, you know, that was in the Pearl business in the 1800s. I mean, just, it's just insane what the philosophy there is catered towards producers.

Politics is second or third. We're everywhere else in the Middle East, pretty much everywhere else in the world now is all politics first. You can see America, like what we're doing. For sure, it's first year. And producers end up being frustrated. But without producers, you don't have an economy. If we gave the politicians what a lot of them scream for, and all the producers stop producing, what do you think the world would look like? The planes would stop flying.

The, you know, the innovation would stop happening. So it's interesting. There's a, have you ever heard of the book Atlas Shrugged by Ian Wren? It was written in the fifties, but it's's a it's basically the scenario of what i just said if the politicians got their way and all the producers stopped producing and they just let you know these agencies and and special interest groups run everything and it's a it's a big book a thousand pages wow on the scenario of what would happen so i always tell people read that book because and it was written in the 50s but it's probably more relevant today than ever before.

Interesting. So you're still a big reader? I am, yeah. I think it's important. You've got to keep the mind sharp, and that's one way to do it. Absolutely. You just kind of switch up the reading. But there's always the classics I always go back to every year.

Like, Think and Grow Rich is a classic. It's the foundation for so many of these personal development books today. I love that. I want to dive into your relationship with your wife. Yes. You Grow Rich is a classic. It's the foundation for so many of these personal development books today. I love that. I want to dive into your relationship with your wife because you guys are the most public couple I know in the entrepreneur space. And we were talking earlier about how a lot of public couples just fail for some reason. Well, today it's – quitting is easy. More than half of all marriages end in divorce today because it's simple like

you know we and there's the grass is always greener there's always you know the shiny object syndrome is alive and well in relationships right so if you don't if you don't do what i want you to do then i want to go find someone that will but the challenge is that person is going to do something else you don't like and so people bounce from from deal deal and i did the same thing man i you know i i used to say well i'm not the guy to get relationship advice from and i had a mentor tell me uh you sure are because you've messed so many of them up so i could tell you exactly what never to do in a relationship so when uh i evaluated the this relationship and my wife, based on, okay, what am I looking for? Like, there's nothing like coming home to someone who's got your back.

There's nothing like having someone in your circle that you just know for a fact is solid. Because it's hard to get. You could have business partners that you think are solid, and then money gets in the way or something. And like I'm weak in a lot of areas. And to have somebody strong in the areas that I'm weak in, it makes us powerful. It makes us unstoppable in the marketplace. So it wasn't just great for in the house and just having peace in a house. Having peace in your house to come home to an oasis is nice. Yeah.

But then to have someone who is entrepreneurial-minded and can see where the pit falls. And women tend to have better discernment than guys do sometimes. For sure. They can see stuff. I'll get around someone and I'm thinking, oh, this guy's cool. We'll do something together. And she'll be like, ah, we'll be careful.

And then, no, he's fine. Then I'll go do business with him. And then all of a sudden, like, damn, you were right. That's happened to me like 20 times. Yeah, too many times for me to count. But now I listen. That's the other thing in relationships, communication. It's easy to talk about it, but we communicate everything.

And sometimes, like anything else, communication can be harsh. We argue and we do our things, but we know we're coming back to the table. Nice. So you have those Friday meetings. I think that's cool to meet every week and discuss what we can improve on and everything. And we do everything together. I used to be in relationships, but I was always on boys trips.

I was on fishing trips and whatever. I'm going to watch the game go and have a beer um i'm not saying there's anything wrong with that but i'd rather go have a beer with my wife and watch a game you know you know i'd rather go you know on a fishing trip with my wife uh because we're connected that way so you bring her everywhere pretty much yeah i like that narrative because a lot of guys will say you're whipped or whatever, stuff like that. Call me what you want. You know?

I don't mind it. I bring my girl as many places as I can. Why wouldn't you? I mean, look, there's a reason why there's the male and the female. We're supposed to be connected. Now, I know there's a whole other movement out there that people are switching things up a little bit. But I'm telling you what I believe is that we're supposed to be connected. Right.

And there's a reason for it. And we don't have to be on top of each other 24 hours a day, seven days a week. But I love it, you know, and it works. Any cultural clashes with the families? Not with the family so much. No, but because, as you know, I'm a white male and she's a black female woman. It's interesting how society still has hangups. Our social media goes ham sometimes, racial stuff, which I'm like, we are not past this shit.

Age gap is... Oh, yeah, the age. know i don't you know i'm i'm way she's way more mature than me i'm still very immature she says i'm 15 so i think women mature faster than than guys do to begin with but the age is is also issue so what's the age gap 23 years 23 years yeah so i'm i'm 53 she's gonna be well she's 30 wow yeah she's 30 she's the oldest woman i've dated no no she's yeah she's gonna be 30 uh next month wow so you always attract to the younger no no no it would just just so happen i was walking into a nightclub on my birthday 2016 she was walking out of the nightclub i saw her and i was like whoa hold on you need to go back in this club with me and and after a little bit of convincing she walked back into

the nightclub with me and wow here almost eight years later what a story man yeah we're still hanging say not to marry girls you meet at the club. I know. And I normally would because, you know, it was my birthday. I was going to have a good night no matter what. It just worked, man. And after we hung out outside of the club, I was like, oh, you know, she's a fitness

model. Obviously, the look was there. That was the first thing i saw was how beautiful she was but then we started having conversations and we had these entrepreneurial talks because that's my whole life revolves around you know let's go let's go make a business let's go crush something let's go make some money right and she was showing me you know she's college educated i'm not she was all these things that i wasn't so the when they say opposites attract i think that was really the case and we had we had we'd have these long conversations

about building and then we talked about building companies together she had her company i had mine and i was in the process of selling my main income source at that time. And I had sold another company three years prior to that, so I had been partying for three years straight, and I was kind of done with that lifestyle. So I said to her, I said, look, the nightclub is probably not where I'm going to be next week. This was my birthday. It was kind of my grand finale.

Wow. So you haven't been to the club since? No, I've been to the club many times since. You can't give it up, man. You know, not like that, though. I was out like five, six nights a week just popping bottles and being an idiot. You had a big party phase. I did.

I did, yeah. What do you think kind of fueled that drive to party that much? I think idle hands. I was flush with cash from a sale. Right. I was coming off a divorce. And, you know, when you're not fulfilled, you find things. And I found those things out in the nightlife.

Got it. And it's funny that three years of that, it looked, I think, from the outside, for other guys, it probably looked like a cool thing. Like amazing, right? Yeah. All these girls, all these bottles. It wasn't. It wasn't fulfilling.

Yeah, a lot of guys idolize that party lifestyle. It never made sense to me. Yeah, and you're smart. I mean, keep that energy, bro. I did like a year in college, and I just grew out of it so quick. Yeah, see, I think that's what I missed, though. If they would have told me you party like that in college, I probably would have went to college.

I didn't know. That's why I went. I chose my school based off the parties, and that was the main reason to be on it. So you get it out of your system. And like we party, but it's different. Like now we don't live to party. It's like, okay, we're going to celebrate something. Right.

You know, if we go out, we actually live in an area It's like, okay, we're going to celebrate something. Right. You know, we're going to, you know, if we go out, um, we actually live in a area that's all, you know, nightclubs and stuff and restaurants. So we pop in and say hi, but it's not, it's not like it used to be. Yeah.

Sounds like you found that good balance between business, dating and money and all that stuff. Yeah. And, and still finding it, you know, I, I balance is always at this thing.

I had a mentor, Paul J. Meyer, God rest his soul incredible man um but he always talked about getting balance but it's it's so difficult when you're in the pursuit of something right like if you're running this and you know like you're you're heading out tonight to la i hear you got other stuff going on like you don't have you don't have balance not today yeah you got six people lined up in the green room you got an event you're

doing tonight there's no balance. So there's different pieces to that. Sometimes my wife and I are very focused on just 100% health and wellness, health and wellness. But then the business is kind of off to the side. And sometimes it's like all business, 100%. Then she never skips the health and wellness side, but I will. I love that. Yeah, health is important.

It is, man. I'm going to tell you this. I hear people and I see people sacrificing their health in the pursuit for money. And down the road, they'll realize it was the biggest mistake they ever made. Because at some point, if you lose your health, you'll give up every single dollar you ever made to get your health back. So you might as well, you know, a little bit. It's that slight edge.

Just a little bit, man. Do something every day for your health. Hit the gym a little bit and do something, you know. Absolutely. I agree. Now, what's your take when you travel, right? Because some people totally give up business and work calls when they vacation. I have a kind of different point of view where if I'm needed, I'll step in. But how do you feel about it?

No, we make sure like we stay in hotels that have great fitness centers. Or like when we were in L.A. before we went to Dubai, we stayed in the Marriott in Irvine right across the street from the Lifetime Gym. Oh, nice. So we just walked over to the gym. When we were in Dubai, I had bags of ice brought up to the to the suite to fill the tub so i started every morning at 6 a.m in an ice bath you are crazy i hated it just let me tell you i hated it and then from there we went to the gym every single morning um so you

just you have to prioritize you can schedule it in yeah in. Even if you're a hard charger and you've got a gazillion, just do it earlier or do it later, but do it. Because I didn't do it at one time. For me, it was simple. At 40 years old, I lost my health. I literally was making arrangements. I owned a nightclub at the time. Just because of that lifestyle, owning a nightclub meant I was drinking Red Bull was drinking Red Bulls by day, Red Bull Vodka by night, literally killing myself.

And they found it wasn't necessarily like some people say, oh, they had issues from from. I had forever chemicals that they used to produce energy drinks found in my system. Oh, my God. I don't even know what a forever chemical was. Yeah. But when we were running blood tests, they're like, you have this stuff

and these are the things that they use to manufacture energy drinks. Holy crap. You drank that much? Drank that much, man. Damn. Because I was going.

Like, think about it. I wouldn't get into the, I'd get, it was a restaurant nightclub, so I'd get there around 2, 3 in the afternoon and I wouldn't leave until 5 in the morning.

Jeez. Nice graveyard shift. Yeah. And I would do this five this five six days a week so you're doing a graveyard shift which they've done studies on and that's bad for you plus you're drinking energy drinks and drinking alcohol at night and alcohol yeah so triple whammy yeah well i was i was doing it to myself damn and you were making arrangements at 40 at 40 i thought like i couldn't get out of bed i i and that's never me i have high energy even without a red bull i'm a i thought like i couldn't get a bed i i and that's never me i have high energy even without a red bull i'm a high energy yeah i can't picture you like that it was i've only seen you in high energy situations it was bad i mean i literally couldn't leave my room my

bedroom and it was and we couldn't figure out what's wrong i was doing all these tests and stuff and we couldn't figure it out and i'm like dang this is this is crazy yeah so what what ended up happening it ended up uh it was it was related to a bacteria on my prostate and they say it was triggered to it was triggered by what what they believe were these chemicals that work because you just don't know how things are going to manifest right like you could be great today and there's things happening inside you don't even realize what's going on yeah you know and and that's kind of what happened to me and it just my body shut down my body said no you this is it at 40 that's scary yeah so you know that was where like it's crazy that sometimes you have to have that happen like

one of my early mentors jim rowan would say you, the guy who has a heart attack and survives is more likely to go on to live a long, healthy life. Because why? He stops doing and eating and stressing the way he was prior to that because now his life is on the line. So sometimes we need these life-altering things to make the changes. It is a shame that you need a near-death experience to realize certain things. And that seems like that's been the story of my life. Yeah. No, I've had it, not to me, but to close ones of mine, near-death experience, and you're like, wow, life could end at any moment.

And when you're that close to it, you don't take things for granted. That's why right now experiences are so big for my wife and I. Right. The trips we're taking. I don't really care about the stuff anymore. I've had all that stuff. So there's no need for me to flex with the Rolls Royce or whatever.

That's not the important stuff. Matter of fact, we invest so much money in our health. If you see, every 90 days now we get our blood work done. So we know our numbers. And my goal is always to have numbers better than my wife, who's 23 years younger than me. Nice. And so I have this target that I'm always shooting for.

And I am. You look great, man. Thank you, man. I'm telling you, I feel great. And I study nutrition. I study health and wellness. And I'm on top of it. And we invest big money in it.

Because a challenge living in America is you have to invest your money to be healthy. You can't be healthy by default anymore. No, you can't. The grocery store is killing you. The chemicals in the air and the water and everything else, we don't even think about this stuff. We manufacture food here.

We process everything. And it's literally killing us. It's killing us. And our kids, look, look at the things that our kids suffer with today that didn't exist in the 70s when I was growing up. Autism was like 1 in 10,000 kids when I was growing up. Now it's like 1 in 10. I mean, something has shifted dramatically.

And sugar is a big problem. We put sugar in everything because you know we had a war on fat and it just goes on and on and on so um we just invest big money now to be i'd rather put that money there than in anything else i feel that and then go travel i love that have the energy to experience you know all these different cultures and and things like that i love that i'm the same way i want to travel more and get my health in order because five years I did not take my health seriously at all. And when you're young, you can get away with it.

Yeah. You'll bounce back quick. But you'll hit a certain point. You're like, dang, it's taking more. It's taking longer to bounce back. Yeah. I feel that. How are your testosterone levels?

High. High? That's my wife. Okay. All right. Yeah. I do a lot of things. I've had dips.

And you know as a man, you know when you're dipping. At least I do. And plus checking my numbers every 90 days. So I keep tabs on that. But there's so many natural ways to, you know, HGH levels you can boost through fasting. And there's lots of things you can do to boost your testosterone. I'm telling you, do martial arts like

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. There's a lot of studies around just doing combat type stuff. To raise testosterone. So there's a lot of things you can do to raise testosterone naturally. Because they say after 40 you start dipping.

Oh, yeah, for sure, man. And if you're not paying attention to it, you're going to drop and you're going to be sluggish. The biggest thing for me is, man, I've got to keep my sex drive right. That's why men are men, at least for me. If that's dipping, then i start questioning myself you want more kids no more kids i like i like the act of making kids more than having them now she's of age so yeah no we both made a decision like we we're we're selfish um and you can't be selfish with kids interesting so when you know there's we have next next year we've already got

a plant we've got a six-month trip that we're taking holy crap yeah we're gonna be gone for six months a long one yeah um you know the beauty of airbnbs now you can go live in someone else's house and just like it's your own right so we'll you know thailand and the philippines and we're gonna hit bali and um yeah so like lugging kids around on a trip like that doesn't seem like a lot of fun. It'd be tough. Yeah, and then the problem is if you hire a nanny, you're not really bonding with the kids, so it's the balance. I did that. We had a traveling.

We had, in my previous marriage with my daughter, we had someone that lived with us. Sylvia was incredible. But I'll tell you, you get, Sylvia handles it. When we would travel, we'd get in a joining room, and Sylvia and my daughter slept in that room. We slept in. They got up early and did stuff. We missed so much of it by doing that.

And maybe other people do that better than we did it, but it just was a crutch that it wasn't fair to her. Sylvia became mommy. Wow. You know what I mean? Yeah. And I didn't have to do a lot of duties. So, I don't know.

It's kind of a deep topic, I think. It is. So the bottom line is, no, we're not going to have kids. And I think that living in America, having kids today is a little scary. More than a little. Yeah, I don't want my – I don't know. There's just too – there's so much information coming at these kids and not all – and I have certain philosophies that I would like to keep in my house and i don't want

my kid leaving the house and then having a new set of philosophies that are that are in direct conflict with my philosophies yeah i think public school is out the window for my no you can't i would yeah i would never never i mean what i went through was traumatic enough and now it's even worse it's way worse like oh my gosh and kids are brutal to each other. Oh, yeah. I got bullied. Yeah, man. And they've been brutal from the beginning of time. Yeah. But now you got social media.

You got all this other stuff along with that brutality. Yeah, social media bullying is almost worse, honestly. Because at least when you're bullied in person, you kind of know what's going to happen. But with social media, people are just attacking you in all sorts of ways. It's just mean and nasty. Like,'ll take i like when we were kids it was we would fist fight it was it was beatings that's how it went down now it's this verbal like mental game and i think that stuff sticks like you get beat up you know you get a fat lip and bloody nose or whatever you know you're embarrassed but you get over it pretty quick.

I don't remember how many fights I was in as a kid. But I can remember some shit kids said to me. That's true. Now I'm 53 years old and I can remember stuff from junior high that was said to me. The sticks and stones quote, right? Yeah, sticks and stones may break your bones, but names

will never hurt you. That's the... The names are worse. The names. Because you think about it. We're mental creatures. We're weirdos. Things our mom said to us.

It's stuck in there somewhere. Oh, for real. I'm an Aquarius, so deep thinking is all I do, man. For real. You're in your head. I'm in my head. Think about that. I tell people all the time.

For most people, what's going on in their mind, it's like eating a junk food diet. Every single meal is junk food. Every snack, everything. Because we're saying this. We got this negative stuff replaying in our head. And if you don't find a way to either push that out or work past that, you're going to be depressed. Well, look at the amount of people on Prozac, the number one selling drug in the country. Wow.

I think that if you're not living to your purpose, if you're not doing something daily, if you're not engaged in some type of activity that excites you and warms you up and gets you rolling, you're going to be depressed. And we have millions of people that are depressed right now. That's scary. All over the country. I didn't know it was the number one selling drug. Yeah, it's crazy.

And that's an antidepressant? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, I don't really believe in those, to be honest. I don't – we don't – yeah, we – don't get me started on this. It's a whole other rabbit hole we can go down. Yeah.

I just think it creates – I think it creates creates – like they create one drug to fix one problem and then that drug creates 13 other side effects. You see the commercials. Yeah, it's hilarious. Yeah. The whole commercial is side effects. Yeah. You got psoriasis. So put this – take this and potential outcome is death.

I think I'll keep the skin problem. Yeah. Viagra. You could have a heart attack on that. Yeah. So yeah. keep the skin problem yeah viagra you could have a heart attack on that yeah so yeah like you know your heart's supposed to be pounding you know strong in those real that negative loop though is i know what you mean i had that for like 24 years just negative thoughts after negative thoughts and it's so easy to get wrapped up in it how old are you man i'm 27 27 took me a

while to get out of it but both my parents had it so it So it kind of, in the house, just rubbed off. Yeah. And when someone would tell me something, my immediate reaction was negative. Isn't that crazy? It's common. It's common. Yeah, it's nuts. And because we were doing so many of the personal development events, and that's been the event business I've been in for my entire life. You meet so many people like that.

They come up to you after an event and they tell you these stories of where they've been in this loop, this negative loop. And the beauty of an event or a book or even someone listening to a show, maybe there might be one person listening to one of your podcasts. That's why I love these podcasts now because you can reach so many people. All of a sudden you reach somebody that says, okay, maybe that was the seed I needed to be planted for me to start to change my mind. I wrote a book with a guy named Les Brown and he used to say, once your mind expands, it can never go back to that original dimension. And that's what's, there's so much, there's so many ways now to expand your mind that didn't exist when I was

coming up. Agreed. You know, we had to go, we would pay, you know, you'd have to go to a seminar drive to some you you know you weren't getting it we didn't have zoom we didn't have nothing online yeah nothing online it didn't exist wow you had to be in very intentional yeah and yeah so i i different era now kids can learn a lot quicker now there's teenagers making millions millions now. Millions. It's crazy. That's why I'm like, I can't be left behind. You know,

we got to adopt. I, you have to. My, and my wife, I drive my wife nuts because, you know, I'm,

I'm a little slower on the draw on, on some of the tech. Yeah. And all of it, man. But I'm playing the game and I'm, I'm not the sharpest in the game, but I'm in the game.

You know, I'm, I'm doing it and I'm excited about it. I think when you have, when you have excitement for the future, I heard a quote one time, where there is no faith in the future, you can't pack a punch in the present. And because I'm so excited about the future,

and like technology, I think I could live forever based on technology that's coming in, and artificial intelligence. So there's an excitement around staying healthy enough, long enough to see what's coming. Yeah. And that's another thing that drives me from a health standpoint. I think it'll be possible one day to live forever. I told my wife, you know, you know, what might happen is I might just get a robot, a robot body, like my head on a robot body.

The question is if you want to live forever. I know that's, that's going to be the next the next uh dilemma that we'll face because if you're at an old body and you got offered do you want to live in this body forever i would probably say no no but if you can give me you know a a really nice body give me a super strength body yeah that then i'm like hey all right we can if i can be a superhero. I love it. John, it's been fun. Anything you want to close off with or promote? No, man. I would just tell people don't get so caught up in what other people are saying. Social media and all this other stuff and get out of your own head.

For me, that was one of my biggest challenges, like you said, that loop. Getting caught up in my own mind and and you know just go out there and make shit happen boom we'll link your IG below thanks for coming on thanks man appreciate you yeah thanks for watching guys see you

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