Digital Social Hour - The Crazy Story Behind Hornblasters' Rise | Matthew Heller DSH #1851

Episode Date: April 23, 2025

🚨 The Crazy Story Behind Hornblasters' Rise 📈 is here! 🚨 Dive into the wild journey of Matthew Heller, the mastermind behind Hornblasters, as he shares how his humble beginnings sparked a boo...ming business making air horns a cultural phenomenon. From being raised by a professional clown in Florida to hacking NASA as a teen, to working with the FBI and eventually launching Hornblasters, this episode is packed with jaw-dropping moments and valuable insights. 💡 🎙️ Join Sean Kelly on the Digital Social Hour as Matthew reveals his journey through tech innovations, building a brand, and even navigating wild PR moments like his infamous truck incident. Plus, hear how Hornblasters became one of the first brands to go viral on YouTube and why it’s still going strong after 23 years! 🚛🎺 Don't miss out on this inspiring and entertaining story that proves success can come from the most unexpected places. Watch now and subscribe for more insider secrets! 📺 Hit that subscribe button and stay tuned for more eye-opening stories on the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! 🚀 📢 Join the conversation in the comments below—what shocked you the most about Matthew’s journey? Let’s hear it! 👇 CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 00:56 - Growing Up with a Single Mother, Professional Clown 01:55 - Getting Into Technology and Innovation 02:45 - Early Hacking Days and Experiences 03:39 - FBI Job Offer and Career Opportunities 05:59 - Today's Sponsor: Kinsta Free Month 08:08 - Early Jobs After FBI Experience 09:58 - Exploring Notion and Productivity Tools 14:58 - Aires: Insights and Impact 17:34 - Understanding the Patriot Act 18:53 - Dropping Out: Risks and Rewards 20:00 - FBI: Inside Perspectives 21:30 - Hacking: Skills and Ethics 22:45 - Tariffs: Economic Implications 24:04 - Kik: Messaging App Overview 24:56 - Five Nights at Freddy’s: Game Analysis 25:35 - Mike Busey: Influencer Insights 26:58 - Tattoos: Personal Stories and Meaning 27:22 - Where to Find Matthew Online APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: jenna@digitalsocialhour.com GUEST: Matthew Heller https://www.instagram.com/mattfromhornblasters/ SPONSORS: AIRES TECH:  https://airestech.com/ NOTION: https://www.notion.com/ LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ The views and opinions expressed by guests on Digital Social Hour are solely those of the individuals appearing on the podcast and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of the host, Sean Kelly, or the Digital Social Hour team. While we encourage open and honest conversations, Sean Kelly is not legally responsible for any statements, claims, or opinions made by guests during the show. Listeners are encouraged to form their own opinions and consult professionals for advice where appropriate. Content on this podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only and should not be considered legal, medical, financial, or professional advice. #hornblastersstory #businessideas #trainhorn #businessenglish #personalgrowth

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Starting point is 00:00:00 on it because it was an active investigation just from yesterday. But again, there was there was nothing found in the vehicle. There was nothing in the vehicle. But they really did a lot of damage ripping my whole vehicle apart. And that was a real bummer. And it was kind of an egg on the face of the police department. The chief of police is actually, ironically, now the mayor of Tampa. Whoa. Yeah. OK, guys, Matthew Heller, one of the craziest stories I think I've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:00:30 So thanks for joining us today, man. Thanks for having me, man. Yeah. It's great to be here. You're out here in Vegas, which isn't a common thing for you, is it? It's, you know, I've been here so many times over the years. My company, Hornblasters, is super involved with the SEMA show. So we're here like every November and I was on the board
Starting point is 00:00:45 planning that. I really don't love Vegas. I don't like to gamble. I don't pay for sex and I rarely drink. So there's just nothing out here for me, but I'm so happy that we got to link up and do this. So super excited about that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:57 Well, you were raised by a single mother who was a professional clown. I want to talk about that. Yes, sir. That is a very unique childhood. Yeah. My parents split when I was three. My parents were from Detroit. They moved to Florida in that. Yes, sir. That is a very unique childhood. Yeah, my parents split when I was three. My parents were from Detroit.
Starting point is 00:01:06 They moved to Florida in search of a better life. My mom and father, they created a mobile dunk tank and they used to set that up at the flea market. My dad was like a stilt man. And then my mom was a professional clown. Once they split, I was just raised by her essentially. Wow. A clown's world is what her company was called.
Starting point is 00:01:25 And she was Rosie the Clown. I was a little kid clown. And that was an interesting childhood to say the least. That Sue Bridge thing. Yeah, that was down in South Florida. We did a lot of like company picnics and birthday parties and stuff like that. A lot of her customers were essentially
Starting point is 00:01:39 in the cocaine business. And these parents would hire the clown to come entertain the kids while the parents would hire the clown to come entertain the kids while the parents would all do essentially at the party but yeah it was a really really interesting upbringing and shout out to mom Rosie for and doing the best she's a mama Rosie yeah when did you start getting into tech technology just as as a only child raised by the clown after the divorce my mom got very little from the divorce, even though they had accumulated a huge fortune.
Starting point is 00:02:08 Uh, she was kind of afraid of my dad cause he was getting into drugs. So they split ways. I was living in like a senior community. It was a 55 and up community. I really wasn't supposed to be outside or playing at any time. Um, mom didn't really have the means for computers. So we were, we would buy one from like office Depot on the credit card I'd have it for 30 days or whatever their return policy was and we'd kind of flip them and I'd get new computers
Starting point is 00:02:31 every 30 days or so. Wow. She didn't know it at the time but I was kind of gutting the computers on the inside taking components out before she would return them and I was eventually able to Frankenstein together a computer that I was able to just play on that thing all day. Wow, humble beginnings. Yeah, just big computer nerd. So you were a big gamer back in the day? A little bit. The games weren't quite what they are now. RuneScape? Yeah, RuneScape, Quake, Doom, Wolfenstein, all the super old stuff, Leisure Suit Larry, and yeah, it's come a long way. And then with the advent of the internet, you know, I was on America online and using different ISPs to get online and Yeah
Starting point is 00:03:11 Started off with gaming and then kind of delved into the hacking world Just tinkering around and I was in a group of other fellow computer nerds And we would try to take stuff down and then put up our own names and give ourselves like shout outs and put post like Political cartoons and just like different things on different websites. Yeah vulnerabilities I was kind of more like a script kitty at the time not like, you know super formal hacking But there was just a lot of vulnerabilities on the internet back then. Mm-hmm So how did that work you would was that the when you flooded a bunch of traffic to a site shut it down? Yeah, you could you could SMT or ping bomb people like that that would work it would be like a ddos
Starting point is 00:03:50 attack i i was just i found like a send mail exploit with some of my friends on nasa.gov it was actually space link dot nasa.gov and we put some stuff up there just again some political cartoons uh free. There was a hacker named Kevin Mitnick who was being held without a trial back in the day. So that was the big thing. We were just putting free Kevin Mitnick up everywhere. Did he get freed? He eventually did. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:16 He was being held forever. So, yeah, I was just kind of a computer nerd, did that, got in trouble at high school. They didn't have any proof per se. One of my media aid friends got pulled over for speeding and he dropped the dime on me to the cop who was just, he was afraid to lose his driving privileges. So he just kind of confessed to the cop and said, hey, I know this guy that hacked NASA.
Starting point is 00:04:41 And the cop is like, what are you talking about? I'm just writing you a speeding ticket or whatever. But they started investigating that. Shortly after that, the FBI was out at my house the next week asking questions. Wow. They wanted to see my computer. The parents would not let him in the house.
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Starting point is 00:05:59 Shout out Spiro So, yeah, they weren't allowed on the computer I got expelled from high school over that Super low point in my life didn't really know what I was gonna do. This is my 10th grade year And then about a week later the FBI came back to the house and they offered me a job They said hey, we know you're not really doing anything with your life. Would you like to come help us? We're kind of behind the power curve when it comes to where we should be with technology and prosecuting some of these different cases and stuff. I had nothing else going on. I worked with them from Florida for a bit. And then they eventually transferred me to Baton Rouge, Louisiana, where the district attorney
Starting point is 00:06:38 there had a little more capacity to pursue these types of cases. So I was just going after locating people who were doing like credit card fraud, buying and selling credit card numbers in bulk and different hacks and stuff like that, trying to locate people and help them with probable cause. I was essentially in a cooperating witness. I didn't have a gun or a badge or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:07:01 I was told I wasn't allowed to talk about it for seven years or so. Cause there was a bunch of open investigations that I was told I wasn't allowed to talk about it for seven years or so. Wow. Cause there was a bunch of open investigations that I was a part of. 9-11 happened. I was working for them in Baton Rouge at the time. I called the morning of 9-11. I called my superior, my officer that I reported to and I said, Hey, are we working today? And she said, we're not just kind of hanging tight. Well, we'll talk to you next week. So I sat there for a little bit and the next week they said,
Starting point is 00:07:26 hey, we're not doing any of these investigations anymore. We're trying to do this war on terror thing. Here's your last money. They paid me in cash. It wasn't, I didn't get checks or anything. It was cash the whole time? The whole time. And then they were also paying me like a per diem
Starting point is 00:07:40 for housing. I kind of forged the receipts and it was just living in my truck at the time, pocketing that money. And I'm so happy that happened because if I did sign a lease I would still be stuck in Louisiana. So they released me and I went back to Tampa, Florida where now I had this couple years of no resume, no experience and I wasn't allowed to say what I was doing. I had all this esoteric knowledge of how these things work but again wasn't allowed to say what I was doing. I had all this Esoteric knowledge of how these things worked, but again wasn't allowed to talk about anything dang that must have been a tough seven-year period Then it was a bummer to find work. Well. I started I just got a bunch of like part-time jobs I was kind of like the grim reaper of death for a lot of these companies. I worked everywhere
Starting point is 00:08:18 I worked I got like 22 W2s that year just getting hired and fired I was at blockbuster video and service merchandise, Kmart, all these places just kind of closed up as I was working at them, uh, RIP Blockbuster RIP. Yeah. Uh, but then I got a job at Home Depot and that was really fun. I enjoyed that. Uh, I had a low rider pickup truck and, uh, it went up and down.
Starting point is 00:08:39 It had air suspension on it. I'm from South Florida and I always thought, you know, low rider culture was super cool. And I'm like, man, if I just had a truck that went up and down, I could probably meet a chick or something like that. So I was working at Home Depot, had this air suspension and not everyone enjoyed those little pickup trucks. So I felt like I was getting run off the road all the time.
Starting point is 00:08:58 And being always into trains as a kid, I found a train horn and I put it on my vehicle using some of the hardware from Home Depot and wired it all up. And then I was just had this train horn on this little tiny pickup truck. And then folks were always asking, Hey, where'd you get that? That's kind of cool. I built a rudimentary website in 2002 called Horn Blasters, where I started selling these horns. And after about four years, I had to leave Home Depot and pursue the company full-time and here we are now 23 years later and still selling air horns. Well done. Not a lot of companies lost that long. Yeah, yeah I'm amazed.
Starting point is 00:09:36 Super blessed. What a journey to go from hacking into that much more innocent. Yes sir. So yeah we just make these obnoxious horns. This was 2002. I started putting videos on my website. This was before YouTube. And we'd kind of use these videos of us using the train horn honking at people to help market the product. I was paying a ton for like hosting.
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Starting point is 00:11:13 to finally share that content. Good timing, right? Yes, sir. Yeah. We're one of the first YouTubers to have over a million views on a video. That was a big deal back in the day. It was, I should have stuck with that momentum.
Starting point is 00:11:23 We're now publishing more long form content on YouTube, but it took a long hiatus there for a minute You'll need a pod a horn blasters podcast. Yeah. Yeah We thought about that. I'm blasting horns the whole pod That's what folks want to see I always thought it was kind of unsavory myself But it really is what drives the most traffic to the website is you know People just want to see that I can see that you build some amazing relationships throughout this process, too Yeah, I've been real lucky to work with a lot of folks. I was in the right place at the right time Between Joe Rogan and Red Band. I met them real early on
Starting point is 00:12:00 We were the first horn blasters was the first sponsor of the kill Tony podcast. Yeah, that's a flex super cool Yeah, I had no I'm so proud of everything that you know, Tony and Brian have turned that into But yeah, I made just a lot of friends along the way. I've had some instrumental folks Along the way in Tampa We would get some like newspaper press from time to time and And then one of the local radio guys there, Mike Calta, he did me a real solid and kind of brought me into his ecosystem and introduced me
Starting point is 00:12:29 to a lot of his other friends and comedians. And it's just kind of parlayed from there. I love that, man. That's so cool. Are you going to go to the Kill Tony show this week? I am. Yeah, that was the being able to do your podcast and to go see my friends.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Oh, I love it. That's what I'm super excited about. I want to go to one of those these days. It looks so fun. It's incredible. Yeah. It's a great show. His Madison Square Garden one looked crazy.
Starting point is 00:12:52 Yeah, I wanted to go to that one. He had one on New Year's. It was kind of hard to talk the girlfriend into, hey, we're doing this on New Year's. But yeah, it's incredible what they've grown that into. And yeah, it's just a monster now. And I'd love to bring you on Sunday if you want to come. Dude, I'd be honored.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Thanks so much. Your truck got destroyed. I wanted to talk about this because there's a whole PR article about this. So what exactly happened? So a lot of this got scrubbed from the internet. Surprisingly, there's only one page left and that's the Daily Mail.
Starting point is 00:13:20 In 2014, my company Hornblasters, we threw a concert to try to promote the company a little more. We hired Juicy J and this young upcoming rapper from Texas named Travis Scott. It was $5,000 and we got him to perform this concert. It was in Ebor City, which is like our historic, like a Bourbon Street slash historic cigar rolling, a cigar factory district of Tampa. That's where all the nightclubs are and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Uh, I have this big F six 50 at the time I used it for, uh, promotions of my company. I had that parked in, uh, in Ybor city in a parking lot. And when I got out of the concert, I walked out there and the truck had been all ripped apart. Uh, I had thought I'd got broken into. When I did get in there, I found just a little note, no business cards, but on a small piece of loose leaf paper,
Starting point is 00:14:12 it was like, dear sir, your vehicle was searched by the TPD K9 for the alleged scent of marijuana on the passenger side. Any questions, call Corporal Fanning with a phone number. Well, I mentioned that FM radio friend of mine, Mike Calta, I was telling him the story shortly after, and he's like, your truck got broken into a parked truck? I said, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Well, Mike, the next day called that corporal live on the air. And of course the corporal wasn't allowed to comment on it because it was an active investigation just from yesterday. But again, there was nothing found in the vehicle. There was nothing in the vehicle. But they really did a lot of damage ripping my whole vehicle apart.
Starting point is 00:14:49 And that was a real bummer. And it was kind of an egg on the face of the police department. The chief of police is actually, ironically, now the mayor of Tampa. Whoa. Ever thought about how much EMF and radiation your body is exposed to every single day?
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Starting point is 00:16:13 big car show that weekend. So it really sent me back. But what's super scary is all there was a ton of press about that at the time and it all got pulled off the internet for the most part. It's not in any of the archives. Like I said, it's only on daily mail and some of the overseas things. And knowing what you know, you know that's intentional. Yeah, whoever's got that power to rewrite history and pull specific news articles down. I mean, that's terrifying, you know?
Starting point is 00:16:37 That is interesting. Wow, I didn't know police could search your car, first of all, without you in there. So after, it's all part of the Patriot Act, which we just renewed. I mean, after 9- 11, we passed so much stuff that I think it's within 85 or 75 miles of an international boundary, which is where like 92% of the country lives, essentially the entire state of Florida, because 10 miles offshore is international waters. So then
Starting point is 00:17:01 10 miles, then 75 in the entire peninsula. So there really is no protection. It's fully constitutional. There's no privacy and folks, you know, your vehicle, your cell phones, everything could be intercepted at all times pretty much. That's good to know though. Terrifying. Thanks for letting me know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:20 That's that patriot act for us. I mean, I've been pulled over when I was younger and they just say, Oh, your car Smells like weed and they search the car Yeah, yeah, it's it's embarrassing like you're on the side of a highway like they're searching your vehicle. Yeah people are passing you Yeah, terrifying stuff, but we voted for it and and then we renewed it. So yeah, that's crazy I'm sure you saw some wild stuff when you were on the inside It was it was crazy what they were doing even then.
Starting point is 00:17:45 This was like 1998, 99, 2000. And I mean, they had computers that, sorry, devices on networks have like a MAC address on them. And they had computers that had no MAC addresses on their network cards. So they could just install these at an internet service provider. And then they would hook up like these, I there's a company called I omega.
Starting point is 00:18:06 They made these things called like zip drives and they would put these zip drives on there to just capture all of the data that's going through the internet service provider. The program was called carnivore that I was working on and it would just gather all the data. They're doing that now with the large scale with the Utah data center and the NSA. You know, it captures all forms of communication. Wow.
Starting point is 00:18:32 All digital pocket litter, receipts, traffic cameras. Everything's all aggregated, I guess, in Utah. That's nuts. Big brother is watching. You gotta be careful with public wifi networks you join. I just found out. Sure, yeah. I used to use the ones at Wi-Fi networks you join. I just found out. Sure.
Starting point is 00:18:45 I used to use the ones at the airport, but now I don't. Yeah, and what you're plugging into, everything. Yeah, you had the outlet, right? You're super vulnerable. Part of the Edward Snowden stuff from, I think, it was 2011 or 2012, there was an NSA program called Dropout Jeep. And that was formed by an Israeli company that allowed
Starting point is 00:19:04 you to see everything on iOS. You could push-pull, send files, you could read the contacts, edit the contacts, read the messages, send the messages. You could turn the microphones on. There's, you know, there's six or seven microphones on an iPhone. You could, you know, turn that on and hot mic everything. Wow. Turn all the cameras on. And this was stuff that Snowden was warning us about from almost two decades ago now. So who knows what there is now. But that's the price you pay if you want all the cool toys.
Starting point is 00:19:34 There just is no privacy. You know, it's scary because if you are an enemy in the government's eyes, they could just plant something on you, like some blackmail or some child pee or whatever, and you're done. Terrifying. Right? Yeah, yeah, terrifying. I mean, that is super scary. There's a lot of child pee out there too. It was it was amazing. We didn't know when I was working with them. I didn't have too much with that, but they would have us locate people that they were
Starting point is 00:19:56 investigating and trying to find folks. I mainly sat on like internet relay chat and was trying to buy and sell credit cards. But a lot of it was trying to find those nefarious folks as well. Yeah. And there's just so many of them it's way more common than people realize. Yeah. People were just selling credit cards on chat rooms? Yeah, by thousands at a time. That's so wild. We were soliciting to purchase them. We'd go to Western Union in the middle of the night when we'd find someone that was interested, you know, that was advertising that they had stuff. we'd go to Western Union, send them the money.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Sometimes they were just bluffing and they'd get to keep the money. Sometimes they'd send the stuff and then from there we'd have the probable cause to go after them. And it was a wild, wild time, which should have been my high school years. Yeah, that is crazy.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Any times you felt unsafe or like an investigation went south? No, not at all. And I didn't really have any like face-to-face with any of the folks we were investigating. Some of the agents I was working with though, they were wild. I mean we would we would pull out cash for the Western Union from these accounts at the ATM in these sketchy neighborhoods in the middle of the night. I just remember one of the guys I
Starting point is 00:20:57 worked under, you know, all these guys carried a lot of weapons of course, and they'd pull the money out of the ATM and then they're just driving outside with their hand out the window with Fistfuls of cash come on someone rob us They're kind of kind of you know, yeah imagine trying to rob an FBI agent Oh, I love seeing those police body cams when they're trying to arrest an undercover FBI agent. Oh, yeah I've seen those I've seen those who claim that they're FBI or not, you know, like the stolen valor kind of thing Yeah, folks the stolen valor kind of thing. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:25 Folks, the security guards, so much great body cam footage out there now. Yeah. So are you pretty removed from the hacking community these days? Oh yeah, and even then, I knew stuff, I knew enough to get in trouble, but I wasn't, you know, that bleeding edge
Starting point is 00:21:39 with the technology or anything like that. Now I'm a rusty, I don't know if I'm a boomer, I'm 43, but yeah, I'm totally out of it. Do you feel like it's way harder now to hack stuff? I don't know, there's tons of zero-day exploits all the time and there's tons of vulnerabilities. And folks that just have a lot of spare time to poke and prod and try to get into things,
Starting point is 00:21:59 there's definitely, there's things that can be done out there. Yeah, there's some clever ones. There's some clever hacks. I got Simhack, that sucked. I couldn't do anything about it. Oh man. They clone your number and then for YouTube factor.
Starting point is 00:22:14 They called my carrier, pretending to be me. They must've bought my social security number off the dark web, because I heard you could do that. So they must've gave them that information, maybe got a fake ID somehow of me, and then yeah, they switched it to his phone No, but switch my phone to his phone. Oh gosh, man. Yeah, luckily. No one's going after the air horn guy Alright, but uh, yeah social engineering hacks. Oh, I remember MGM and Caesars got hacked a few years ago. Did you see that one?
Starting point is 00:22:38 Yes, sir. Just social engineering. That's crazy. Yeah. Yeah lots of ways to get the bag out there. Yeah. Well, dude, what's next for you? What do you got planned this year? Man, you know, I wouldn't say I'm a Trump supporter, but I am a Trump voter. And I have always had his back with stuff. But these tariffs are really messing my business up personally the past couple of weeks.
Starting point is 00:23:00 A lot of our stuff is made here in the USA, so I'm not worried about most of it. But some of our more complex electronics regrettably come from China. Damn. And it's killing me now. How much did those, what percent increase did it go up? It's a lot.
Starting point is 00:23:11 I'm hearing, you know, it's over, I'm hearing 245% now and stuff like that. That would ruin your business. It's a bummer, especially since I just launched a whole bunch of new products. And he warned us, though, during his first administration. He said, you know, if you're doing business with China, reevaluate all that.
Starting point is 00:23:28 And I kind of took that with a grain of salt and threw caution to the wind. So here we are. We'll see long term how it plays out. Interesting times. Right? Yeah. Like if you're being objective, it makes sense.
Starting point is 00:23:38 If they're terrifying us, why can't we have 50% or sometimes 100% of what they're charging us? Sure. But I guess the immediate effects are obviously catastrophic. Yeah, and I'm just seeing how it's causing hiccups in the supply chain, and I hear there's empty trains now, and the freight ships, and it's going to ripple through.
Starting point is 00:23:56 I don't know what this is going to do to the economy. We'll see all the best. I mean, I know something has to give. Just wild times we're living in. It always is, I suppose. Well, you started streaming too. I started kicking recently. Kicking. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:11 Yeah, that's the new movement. We're on all the socials. Kick was the only new one for me. And I'm like, this is kind of fun. I was hanging out with my buddy Tyler Yahweh last week. He was kicking. And I said, man, that's kind of cool. So you're doing IRL kicks, or Are you doing gaming? Yeah, just IRL
Starting point is 00:24:27 I I did some I had a bunch of Facebook stock back in the day So I bought the meta quest when it came out Yeah, and man I got super addicted to the VR games in there and like there's like first-person shooter games But it's come a long way since doom and quake that I used to play Yeah, so I find myself fully addicted to like these VR first person shooter games. Um, I'm trying to stay off of that. I don't want to go that route. I've just been doing just IRL stuff and trying to show some of my friends and
Starting point is 00:24:54 people that I hang out with day to day. Did you try five nights at Freddy's on the quest? No. Oh my gosh. That game gives me nightmares. That's cool. I, I, I met the in what was it?
Starting point is 00:25:07 Showbiz pizza, I guess, is what that was all based off that movie or the Five Nights at Freddy's, which eventually turned into Chuck E. Cheese. What? Chuck E. Cheese was the pre the yeah, the pre part for Chuck E. Cheese was showbiz pizza. And that I guess that's all.
Starting point is 00:25:24 Five Nights at Freddy's thing is based on. Wow, I didn't know that. Yeah, my buddy Mike Busey in Orlando, he is a super Chuck E. Cheese fan, as well as like, interesting guy. You gotta Google Mike Busey. I think, is he an actor?
Starting point is 00:25:38 Or is that a different Busey? He does all kinds of stuff. His alleged uncle is Gary Busey. That's who I'm thinking of. Mike owns the wildest house in America. It's called the Saususey. That's who I'm thinking of. Mike owns the wildest house in America. It's called the Sausage Castle. It's in central Florida. It's kind of the middle of nowhere. It's an 88 acre adult playground, like an adult Disney world, essentially. Sausage Castle. Incredible guy. Incredible guy. One of my best friends for 20 years. Really sweet, really,
Starting point is 00:26:01 really sweet dude. We've worked together as much as we can share the same friend groups essentially Shout out Mike Busey. That's cool. Yeah, I'm trying to think what a sausage castle wouldn't tell you got me thinking right now Yeah, yeah, he's big. He's like the most canceled man on the internet essentially He's had 20 different YouTube's and snapchats sometimes. You know, you just post a little too much and it gets taken down I think he'd be an excellent person for kick probably. I think about it. I love him on the show too. It sounds like an interesting person.
Starting point is 00:26:30 He's great and just a really, really sweet guy. He wanted to be, he went to like a seminary school. He wanted to be a priest. And then he pierced his ear with a cross. Well, and the president of the school said, that's not very God-like. So then that kind of made him reconsider the path that he was going down whoa and now he's
Starting point is 00:26:47 just he's covered in tattoos but they're all really cool like American tattoos super patriotic guy just a really nice cat that's cool yeah absolutely great guy shut up shout out Mike. You got any tattoos? I don't and I'm not against it there's just nothing I feel that compelled to I'm the same. Yeah. Yeah hasn't called me yet. Yeah. Yeah, I kind of like being clean though, too Yeah, it's I think it's more rare to not have tattoos Plus once you get one you're not stopping at one. That's how it is Yeah, it's a slippery slope and you got a sleeve and you got to do the legs. Yeah never ends It sounds cool. Maybe one day but yeah, so so far nothing.. Yeah, well where can people find you man? It's been fun of
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