Digital Social Hour - The Dark Side of Military Life: Assaults and Cover-Ups Revealed I Kelsie Sheren DSH #496

Episode Date: June 15, 2024

🔍 **The Dark Side of Military Life: Assaults and Cover-Ups Revealed** 🎖️ In this gripping episode of the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly, we dive deep into the untold stories of military life. Former artillery gunner, Kelsie Sheren, exposes the shocking reality of high assault rates and the alarming cover-ups that plague the armed forces. 😱 💬 **Join the conversation** as Kelsie shares her personal experiences and insights into the harrowing challenges faced by both men and women in the military. From male-on-male assaults to the tragic incidents of women being assaulted and even killed on bases, this episode reveals the dark truths that many prefer to keep hidden. 🕵️‍♂️ 🚀 **Don't miss out** on this eye-opening discussion packed with valuable insights. Sean and Kelsie also touch on the struggles of transitioning out of military life, the impact of PTSD, and the controversial use of psychedelics for healing. 🌱 📺 **Watch now and subscribe for more insider secrets**. Hit that subscribe button and stay tuned for more eye-opening stories on the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! 🔔 #DigitalSocialHour #SeanKelly #Podcast #MilitaryLife #PTSD #Assaults #CoverUps #Healing #Psychedelics #SubscribeNow #VeteranStruggles #DigitalSocialHour #MilitaryWomen #CommunitySupport #PsychedelicIntegration CHAPTERS: 0:00 - Intro 0:47 - Joining the Military 4:11 - Transitioning Out of the Military 6:50 - Finding Your Purpose 11:13 - Life is Happening for You 11:13 - Psychedelics and Mental Health 11:13 - Gut Health and Libido 11:13 - Getting Off Prescriptions 11:13 - Brain Health Recovery 19:25 - Forgiveness 21:40 - Husband's TBI and Preventative Medicine 26:23 - Canada’s Economic Downturn 32:00 - Canada’s New Hate Speech Bill 33:00 - Free Speech Issues 34:33 - Encrypted Messaging Apps 38:45 - Where to Find Kelsie Sheren APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://forms.gle/D2cLkWfJx46pDK1MA BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: [e-mail] GUEST: Kelsie Sheren https://www.instagram.com/kelsie_sheren/ https://coaching.kelsisheren.com/bio SPONSORS: Deposyt Payment Processing: https://www.deposyt.com/seankelly LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

So there's like women get picked on? I didn't know. No, not picked on, just high sexual assault. I didn't even know that. Oh, incredibly high. Well, it makes sense because there's so many dudes and they're not getting laid. Yeah, well, it's funny because what people don't talk about is actually there's a lot of male-on-male assaults. Damn, there's a whole other world I'm not familiar to.

Oh, yeah, we'll have a chat after. But yeah, there's a significantly high rate of male-on-male assaults. You guys just had a Navy ship have to come back to port within 30 days of a deployment because there was over 28 women that were assaulted in a short What? Yeah.

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bigger and better guests and it helps us grow the team. Truly means a lot. Thank you guys for supporting and here's the episode. All right, guys kelsey sharon former military girl here today thanks for coming on i love how we started that already thanks for having me what a story i'm meeting you at

melter studio i was really inspired meeting you thank you yeah it was wild you walked in and i went who is this guy i don't know if i've ever met somebody so like honestly so tall and when i started to learn about your story i was really really inspired by what you've been able to create at your age it's quite possibly uh one of the more inspiring younger people i've met in a very long time so really well done man likewise with your story coming over the uh the ptsd and all the mental health stuff yeah man i was super impressed thanks dude you were in the canadian military i was yeah how many uh years were you there i only did four i did one deployment. I'm Canadian, but I worked with the Americans and the British as well.

So I did operations with the British, and then I shot artillery with the Americans, and then I was a Canadian artillery gunner. Wow. And I saw on another show you were the only woman in your unit? Yeah. So we had an officer that stayed in comms at our fob. But then once I went with the British, I was the only female with them. Dang.

What was that like? You can imagine. No, the guys were really solid. It was just more of a, it was just a different, it was just a different experience. It's just a different experience altogether. I think working in the military as a female

is always going to be tricky. But if you just assert yourself in certain ways, sometimes it's enough to deter any of the bad things that happen to women in the service. Oh, so there's like women get picked on? I didn't know. No, not picked on, just high sexual assault rate. Oh, I didn't even know that.

Oh, incredibly high. Well, it makes sense because there's so many dudes and they're not getting laid and... Yeah, well, it's funny because what people don't talk about is actually there's a lot of male-on-male assaults that... What? Dude. Damn, there's a whole nother world I'm not...

Oh, yeah, we'll have a chat after. But yeah, there's a significantly highher world I'm not oh yeah you will have a chat after but yeah there's a significantly high rate of male-on-male assaults and they just you guys just had a Navy ship have to come back to port within 30 days of a deployment because there was over 28 women that were assaulted in a short what yeah holy

that is terrible yeah it is it's not ideal human nature people can't fight that instinct man they can't hold back well you would think with service members discipline would become a part of their life, but apparently they just can't stop people. Well, I think they go all in on just that side of discipline, but there's a whole other side that they're not addressing, right? Well, a lot of people that join the military think about it.

A lot of my friends in the United States, they're at a point where it was jail or the Marines, right? So you come from interesting backgrounds, all types of people in the service, but I do notice that there is definitely a pattern and a type of person that joins. And the military gives people a sense of purpose and it doesn't negate what happened to you before. If you've had trauma, past trauma,

or other things happen to you, it kind of just carries through. And then when you go through service and it's like, shut up and be quiet and don't talk about the issues. And then they just say, well, just go drink it off. You off you know you're gonna run into a lot of issues wow i didn't know they were silencing people like that oh my gosh you had a couple women killed in texas and their bodies were just found on the base and we still haven't figured out who did it that's yeah

i didn't even see that yeah it's a trip man yeah that is crazy and i think the sense of purpose like you mentioned while you're in the military is so high right and then I think the struggle when they get out is they lose that, right? Massive identity loss, massive loss of purpose. It's one of the biggest reasons why people don't transition well. And then they also really struggle with the lack of community, lack of purpose, lack of identity. And so if you leave people to figure that out once they get out, depending on what has happened to them prior,

whether it's traumatic brain injury, post-traumatic stress story you name it then you throw alcohol into the mix you're getting the reason why we have 44 today jeez and that's where you were at right when you got out that's right yeah i was uh end up getting med boarded out in 2011 i was diagnosed in country with post-traumatic stress disorder and then they were put me on 11 different drugs and food to me out yeah it was 11 different drugs just for ptsd that's right it wasn't like painkillers no i was on a lot of ssris and uppers and downers for sleep and then to bring me back up during the day that kind of stuff oh my gosh and they're probably getting kickbacks or something off these well think about it it's the you know the va system loves veterans because veterans are

a vending machine and they're a really good way to constantly turn profit right and so it's it's been an interesting transition for sure but i i you know i think ultimately the message in that is that if you can if you can help veterans find themselves right before they leave and at least give them uh give them a lifeline before they get out of service so that they can then have a purpose once they get out and a community that they can jump into like we were just talking about your awesome human that you work with here and it's like about purpose if they're just left with no purpose people flounder and that's like that in any in any part of life right the people i coach the people i work with it's they feel stuck and it's because they don't have a greater purpose they don't have a reason

to wake up in the morning they don't get excited about what they do they live in this this world of i want to get forward i want to go forward i want to do this i want to do forward. I want to do this. I want to do that. But fear will stop anybody from doing anything. And not only that is people will, people will latch on to alcohol or drugs to just numb out pain rather than, you know, feeling it to be able to heal it because it's really difficult to do so, whether it's lack of mental health support, lack of services, lack of community, you name it. Once you leave service, you take that uniform off, you can't rest on your laurels. You have to keep going forward. You have to find something new to do and you have to find a new identity.

And that's the most difficult part that I see with people transitioning. And I was one of those. So I'm not saying like any shame to, I'm just saying it is transition out of service, out of professional athletes, sports, out of police departments, firefighters. Anytime you leave a team, like a support network, these people firefighters anytime you leave a team like a support network

these people anytime you leave that if you don't have something to fall back on you flounder and you're alone and you're not really alone but you think that you're alone that's safety that's important right yeah that's why even just graduating college some people are lost because they don't know what to do well you think about think about it, you go at, what, 18 to college nowadays. You spend four years, you get into an immense amount of debt. You don't really love the programs around most people. You don't really learn much anymore at these universities except for some crazy ideologies. And then you walk out into the real world and it punches you in the face. They don't know how to do taxes. They don't know how to cook for themselves. They don't know how to look at even purchasing a property because they

can't because they're so in debt. We set our young youth up for a lot harder life than it needs to be. I think that's why I was so fascinated with you. And I know I'm going to have you on my show. So I'm going to stop asking you questions. But I am really fascinated by your ability to get where you have been and where that drive and innate passion and fire comes from. Because that's it's it's bred into people a little bit, but that's also taught and that's learned through parents. That's learned through hard lessons and like building resiliency.

So you are definitely a duck I wanna pull apart because I really wanna understand where that drive comes from. Cause it's, you are very young for how successful you are. And I keep saying that because it's not to illustrate the point, but it's to show other people that age really has absolutely nothing to do with it if you are you are as relentless and just driven as you are and so i just think it's really interesting to see

that you haven't rested on your laurels of just hey i did one thing and this is just what i do you're just like constantly creative and constantly pushing you remind me of like gary v when he started that was my idol growing up no right in college i watched him every day and i'm getting him on the show in two months no way everything comes full circle i'm about it when i started this show he was the first person i wrote i had a dream guest list he was the first person i'm so i'm so stoked for you yeah it's gonna be lit that's but yeah lit. That's the dream. No, I don't even know, honestly, because you're telling me these things. And I think it's just a mixture of so many different things. It is.

Ultimately, I think when somebody is meant for more, you feel it in your bones. And whatever it is that you do, you'll be successful at it. And you just have to find what sets your soul on fire. I think that's the hardest thing. When people say, I want to make money, but I can't do it with what I love. So no, no you can but you just have to be willing to go hard and you have to be an entrepreneur and that doesn't have hours and that doesn't have stop times and you have to

be able to be constantly creating content like gary talks about like you have to be consistent and you have to be pushing content constantly and that's what you do really well is like the amount of shows you do in person, regular like this, like you're just the next version of him. Pumping out content. Yeah, that's it. Absolutely.

Yeah, it's brilliant. And I think looking back on my life, seeing the traumas at the time, so traumatic, like my dad was an alcoholic and a drug addict, but it gave me that perspective of not going down that path at an early age. So when I was in college,

I didn't even care to party too much. Well, you had already seen what it can do if it goes wrong. Yeah. I mean, relying on alcohol is just not the way to go. I used to have to drink to talk to people. I hate that.

I hate that for you. I hate that that had to be a part of your life. I hate that it has to be a part of anybody's life. I'm not a person who has an issue with anybody drinking, but I've seen time and time and time and time again what it can do to people's lives. It can lower their vibration.

It just messes up people with brain injury. It sets you up in a position where you're not yourself. You're this facade of yourself. And it's this mask that you put on. And I get it's fun and I get all of these things, but ultimately I don't believe it is necessary i mean i don't drink i stopped drinking last year and not because i had a problem i drank maybe once or twice a month but i was on a book tour and i remember going to an event and thinking to myself like i don't want to be here

but how how dare i because what a privilege it was what an honor what just to sit in gratitude for what i'm able to do as a profession and i was like i don't want to be there i was like because i had a drink, one drink the night before and it lowered my vibration enough. I didn't sleep well. And I did not like who I was the next day because of it. It doesn't bring me up.

It just plummets me. Yeah, I'm big on that vibration stuff, man. Right? I know you are. I was stoked. I was just hearing a little bit about what was going on in the courtyard not too long ago. And Bobby, he's like,

man, I thought these people were some hippies. And I was i was like yeah but hippies know where it's at yeah that's everything to me vibration is energy yeah it is and that was really interesting too because i think it was your manager that was with you at uh when we do the apple thing and uh that guy's a trip but his energy is like pop pop pop pop like that oh jeremy yeah yeah he's a vibe non-stop yeah it's important surrounding yourself with the right people, man. Because I've been there where it's not the right people.

Well, and that's the thing too you have to remember and people I think kind of forget is they think that they're just the sum of the five people they're around. But you're the sum of the five podcasts you listen to,

the sum of the five music artists you listen to, the food you eat, the places you go. You are constantly surrounded by influence. And if you are not in alignment and people aren't positive and they are just yes man it's not going to help you in any way shape or

form you need people that are going to be honest with you absolutely yeah one of the things you tweeted out life is happening for you not to you when was that mindset shift for you i would probably say when i started uh using psychedelics to heal some of the stuff that was kind of just stuck yeah it's about four years ago yeah that's a major shift drastic radical shift radical shift when I started using psychedelics to heal some of the stuff that was kind of just stuck. Nice. Yeah, that's about four years ago. Yeah, that's a major shift. Drastic, radical shift, radical shift.

I went from the 11 drugs. I was on the last one. I was given an opportunity by Heroic Hearts Project to go and to do some medicine. I had no idea what it was. Oh, they didn't tell you? No, no, no. They told me, but I wasn't somebody. I didn't. Cannabis, when I grew up, was like, you'll be lazy.

You'll live on the couch. Same. Right? It just wasn't't a thing for me i didn't do that when i was a fighter i couldn't so when i uh when i was finally given that opportunity i was kind of at that point where i had the successful company i had the husband i had the child i had everything going for me but yet i still wanted to die and i was like something's really wrong here this is just getting worse and it should be getting better. And then a friend of mine, Griff from Combat Flip Flops, we were doing a virtual podcast and I didn't know him. And he leaned into the camera at the end of it and he goes,

you good? And I was like, yeah, man, I'm fine. Why? And he's like, are you good? And I just completely broke down. I didn't know this guy from Boo, but he was a former army ranger. I trust those guys. And I don't know, he just grabbed my hand and he was like look we got an opportunity in 30 days

can you come and i i didn't talk to my husband we talked about everything and i was just like yes he goes it's ayahuasca i was like i yes i don't know yes okay yes and i went and i had such a life-altering shattering, breaking, putting back together, whatever you want to call it, experience that. I realized in that moment that, okay, as much as I grew up Catholic and I had no belief in it at all, didn't resonate, nothing clicked.

The second I sat with medicine and I was able to sit with the divine and feel what it means to be in the presence of God and to allow that opportunity to sit with the people I had lost. It was amazing. It's on my bucket list. I'm very excited. I'll tell you, just tell me when. Yeah. You went to Peru. Wow. I got you. That is crazy. I told you, I got you. Were you nervous? No. And you know why? Because at that point I had sat with enough medicine and I was doing a lot of deep work within it. so i'm a psychedelic integration coach for heroic hearts project and the biggest part is not

the medicine in my opinion the biggest part is the integration piece which happens at the front end and on the back end and the intentionality going into medicine and so for me i'm always a big believer that the medicine will never give you more than you can handle and it'll give you it will give you everything that you need whether you want it or not so you have to have this innate trust that ayahuasca is going to hold you in this container and she does and i've seen her work on people before and i've seen the medicine work in ways that you just can't describe yeah it's it's so life-changing and life-saving for a lot of people in our community. It's actually quite profound. Yeah. I need to adjust my mindset on it because I fear it and I don't know why. Maybe there's some demons I have to deal with. I wouldn't say demons, but I think you have a

healthy, I think there's a healthy fear in anything and I think there should be, but if it's something that's calling to you and it keeps coming up and it just keeps showing up in your life, there's probably a reason for it. that being said not everybody's a candidate for psychedelics right everyone thinks that well just go microdose but not everyone is a candidate for psychedelics um if you're on medic certain medications absolutely shouldn't be using psychedelics at that time um as well as just you know looking at past addiction right ayahuasca is not something you're going to become addicted to because it's not fun right throwing up yeah you absolutely purge some people have energetic purges which is like really loud yawning some people sit perfectly still some people vomit aggressively like i do um but ultimately

it's just about intentionality when you go into medicine it's about being hyper intentional but what you're there for and it's not about going hey tell me what my future is going to be like it's like hey i'm here to learn. I'm here to heal. This is what I'm struggling with. Can you please help me? And just almost like you go, people go to church,

it's like giving that over and saying like, I trust you unapologetically. And the people that I'm with, when I, at least when I go, is with the Shipibo tribe. And these people have been doing this for hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and thousands of years.

They know what they're doing. And at at some point you just have to give yourself over and trust that it's the right thing for you and for some people it's not but for me it was one of the biggest catalysts to change wow and you got off all those prescriptions never been on one since dang yeah that's crazy and you were on them for years uh yeah i was on them from 2009 to the last one I went off was the uh end of 19 holy crap 10 years yeah my entire 20s that is and what people don't understand about pharmaceutical drugs especially SSRIs is they erode your gut health and they destroy your libido damn and they hold you in place and freeze you in place meaning they just just numb you. They numb you to everything. I was in that time frame. I was engaged and I was married and I had a child and I don't remember a lot of my 20s.

What? Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah, your libido is your sex drive, right? Yeah, it's gone. It just wipes right out. 20s is supposed to be your peak of sex and you're giving it up. Yeah, I felt nothing.

Oh my gosh. Yeah. Yeah, that's how I felt on Xanax. Exactly. It's a similar thing like it just numbs your whole body out yeah and for the positive and the negative so as much as they want to use it for the negative it affects you massively in the positive too but they don't tell you that it erodes your gut health they don't tell you that it does damage long term right right

they don't so were you able to reverse it we're working on it yeah i've done treatment with resiliency brain health down in coppell texas that's what i was talking to bobby about and um they are a traumatic brain injury clinic that they work with delta they work with uh the jtf2 special forces you know the rangers the seals and they work with a lot of different uh veterans and they get people working again they get their brains turned back on their frontal frontal lobe, most people have TBIs, their frontal lobe is dormant. And that is your governor. That controls your decision-making, your moods, your temperament, that erratic behavior.

When your frontal lobe isn't working, you don't have a governor for your life. Wow. And you didn't have that working? No, I was dormant completely. I was off. So you were just a bot. I was just living.

Sorry, I was existing. I was not living. Wow. And so that's when I was able to, once you get to a point. I was just living. I was, sorry, I was existing. I was not living. Wow. And so that's when I was able to, once you get to a point and you start to realize that I'm not the labels they gave me. I am not the person they said I was.

I'm Kelsey, the one that's healed, the one that's working, the one that's doing everything I can to be the best version of myself. Once you realize that and you actually believe in that and you start to work on your self-worth and your self-love, you start to go, I'm pretty awesome and I don't need those drugs. And I'm pretty great because of who I am now, not because of who I was then. And I don't

rest on my laurels of my service. I've done so many things since because I'm a big believer in that. That can't be everything I did. I was, I got 21 like that's insane that's young that's when people start usually yeah well they told me i would never work again oh you were that injured yeah yeah i was med boarded out holy yeah yeah 92 damn what happened uh read the book okay 92 yeah so my point in that in saying is like i know people who have lost three limbs and they are professional surfers. I know people who have lost two limbs and run marathons and ultra marathons. I know people who have had such severe traumatic brain injuries that universities can't understand how they're functioning normal because their brains aren't lighting up in the spots that need to be communicating.

And yet somehow these people push forward and push forward and push forward because they don't believe the labels that they're given. And they lean into the healing and they trust the process and they're relentless in getting better but that's hard sometimes right and that's why it's so important that when you walk through the dark and you are the light by yourself going through this path it is your obligation to turn around and walk back and light it up as bright as you can and start pulling people through as fast as you possibly can and that's where that this life is happening for you and not to you i don't regret anything i said like when francis and constantine asked me that on trig they're

like do you regret joining absolutely not i don't regret a single thing because it got me to exactly where i am now wow why would i regret it it, but it happened for me, not to me. Impressive. That was actually my next question. If you regretted anything. What about forgiveness? Have you forgiven everyone? I've forgiven the people that deserve forgiveness.

Okay. Because there is that debate if everyone deserves it, right? I think every human ultimately deserves it. But part of the problem is, is you start messing with kids, you're not going to get my forgiveness. I have a line. That's a tough line. I have a line. I have a line. That's a tough line. I have a line. I have a child.

I'm a mother now. Yeah. I could not imagine deploying as a mother. I know a ton of females that have done it and I don't know how they do it. I couldn't do it. I'm just not making it. Marriages and deployment don't mix usually.

Well, that's why the special operations have a 94% divorce rate. Holy. I didn't know it was that high. It's a trip, man. I mean, yeah. You hear these stories of people cheating. I mean, they're with, without each other for years. Can't really. Yeah. It's sad. I mean, I know, I know a lot of people have like a friends of mine,

they've been together 25 years, all special operations and they stuck it out and they work really well together. They have this partnership because it's, it's more than a marriage. A lot of these people are partners and like my girlfriend, Rebecca Rouse or Alana Stott, they, you you know they're both married to are you interested in coming on the digital social hour podcast as a guest we'll click the application link below in the description of this video we are always looking for cool stories cool entrepreneurs to talk to about business and life click the application link below and here's the episode guys uh you know Alana is a member of the British Empire and she's an author and she's got her own world.

And then her husband was, you know, Dean Stott. He was this big, like SBS, badass British soldier. And he's a contractor. He goes all over the world. But when you have a partner, you understand that time apart is temporary and your life together is your entire life. And so you understand that you have to go and do things and that's okay and it's it's no different than rebecca and joel they're the same i mean they've been together forever and she's an olympic lifter and joel's a 20-year marine so

they live apart sometimes but there's this again this understanding that we are partners in this life yeah and you honor and you respect that because everything else is temporary but ultimately you're going back to that partner and that's not easy for everyone but you that's in my opinion you just haven't found the right partner for you in life because it's not about finding a spouse it's about finding a partner and when you find the right one you elevate yourself significantly and it's cool to see you guys work it out through all the stuff you went through he's probably going through some stuff so yeah no my husband was a professional supercross racer when i met him and we've been together 14 years nice and so we went through my stint of stuff then we went through his traumatic

brain injury stuff and oh he had one too yeah so he actually had what was what was a trip was he had injuries from when he was racing professionally and then one day about a hand was it three years ago now we were sitting in the garage i was smoking a joint and we were watching joe rogan and classic that's just our that man we got a routine we're we are routine religious and um he looked at me and he grabbed the right side of his chest and he goes honey i i think i'm dying and he just dropped to the ground whoa and we took him to the hospital and they're like oh we think it's mental health i'm like no this is not and come to find out this was all during come to find out canada

wouldn't treat us they wouldn't let us. They wouldn't let us in. They wouldn't believe that it was a head injury. And a friend of mine who was a ranger was actually down at the brain clinic. And I called them just bawling my eyes out. Like we need help. I need someone to help me with him. I'm going to lose him. He was deteriorating rapidly.

We couldn't understand it. And sure enough, we went down, did everything. And they're like, oh yeah, he has a massive TBI that just basically dropped him. Yeah. His everything. So you'll hit a point and you'll hit a wall. And then all of a sudden testosterone will drop, hormone will drop, everything will drop. And then he's got nothing left. He's completely depleted. Holy crap. That's scary. It's very scary. And it wasn't like he hit his head the day before? No. It just randomly happened? Well, that's the thing we're understanding is like, there's a lag time of like, you know, seven, seven plus years. Sometimes this stuff shows up later. Yeah. Oh, that's scary. Well well and that's what i was saying you just had this awesome human drop off these

amazing cupcakes uh cheesecakes and he was um telling me he played for the lions and i was like how's that cte treating you and he looked at me he goes i don't think i got any of it and i said when'd you stop playing and he just looked at me i said give it some time damn i love your honesty but some people would take that the wrong way but they shouldn't though because i'm i'm genuinely careful i'm like hey you're trying to help them no i'm like hey call me call me we'll get you hooked up because people deny it like antonio brown's denying it and stuff so that's great but you can only deny until your body decides to shut down because it will yeah and it's not a coincidence you see these boxers you see these nfl players they can't even talk in their 50s 60s dude. Dude, I was a Taekwondo fighter.

I got kicked in the face more times than I can count. And then when I played rugby, I ripped my eyelid off playing. I understand head injury. But just because you want to be blind to the fact that something happened doesn't mean that it's not happening. But the problem is when somebody knows what's going on, you now have a responsibility to look after it. And that's scary for people.

I watched my husband deteriorate from that. It was terrifying. But I never want another human to ever get to that point. I want them to be proactive in their health. I want them to genuinely look at preventative medicine. And the way that you do that is by doing your blood work regularly, is by looking at your hormone levels, is by being serious about your internals and start getting yourself dialed. it takes is a blood test pop it into inside tracker it's not difficult

and it will tell you everything you need to know i take one every year it's so important see i do mine every three months wow you should be doing it three months absolutely at least twice a year how come it's so oh you fluctuate that much you think oh yeah humans fluctuate a ton because you're taking a bunch of vitamins you don't know what you're taking you don't know your levels are You don't know if you need more of this or less of this. You're just kind of shooting in the dark here. You got to know what's going on under the hood before you start to put things into it. True. Yeah. Wow. Were you able to reverse some of that brain damage for your husband? now, which is great. He owns a couple of companies. So, you know, with Atlas and all this, he does all the design, right. And it's all safety equipment, so it has to be dialed. And yeah, absolutely. We are, we're both on a healing path for sure. In terms of the TBIs. I love that. I'm going to get

a brain scan this year with Dr. Eamon. Okay. He's amazing. I was just at Hopaholics with Natalie. I love her. And she was telling me about her, the scan that she got. And I already told her before we had the conversation, I was like, your frontal lobe's a mess i guarantee it she goes you think and she scan dormant holy crap she's got concussions listen you don't need to hit your head you need this and you know why that's it because your brain will hit the skull right your head doesn't have to hit anything that's why when you whip forward it's because your brain is going right against your skull wow yeah and this is all like i'm not a doctor i'm not a specialist but this is all having been around so many of my friends having been around myself and seeing how different i am from treatment yeah and knowing that there are things you can do but

you have to be constantly proactive and And that requires effort. And effort is difficult, especially when the world is the way it is and everyone's hyper-focused downward. They need to pull out a little bit and look around themselves. Because if they think it's not a problem now, well, it will be eventually. And it's much harder to heal as you get older on these things. It's better to be proactive now and do everything you can now. Absolutely. Yeah. How's the veteran programs in Canada?

Not good. Absolutely. Yeah. How's the veteran programs in Canada? Not good. No. I know you're dealing with some Canada cancellation, so I don't want to push too hard. No, no, no. Go ahead. Canada hates me. It's cool. Let's go.

What do you want to know? Why are you still there then? We're still there because my in-laws are there and we are the only grandbaby on both sides of the family and they're getting older. Do you want to take care of them? I want, well, they can take care of, trust. They got this. But I want them to have a relationship.

It's really special watching my son grow up with his grandparents down the street. I didn't have that with mine and I desperately wanted that for him. With your grandparents? Yeah. Interesting. I really wanted that for him. And it's been one of the most beautiful things I've gotten to witness. And so I want to honor that for them.

Eventually we'll go and we'll bounce. I know Canada was toying with a digital currency. That's our line. That's my line in the sand. Digital currency. Yeah. I think US is too, though, to be honest. Yeah.

Well, and that's the thing too, right? So it's like, where do you go? Where do you go? Because part of the problem is you guys are banning. It's funny. You guys are banning TikTok. Well, we gave you a warning shot and we have Bill C-11, which covers the CRTC,

covers the internet wave. So they ban everything. We can't see our media unless you use VPNs. What? You didn't know that? You can't go on Facebook? You can, but you can't see any ads.

You can't see any news. You can't see anything unless you have a VPN. No way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't know that. Yeah, that's why my YouTube is so small. Dude, I'm so,

so demonetized on YouTube now. Yeah, I was going to say, because when you go on big shows, you get a hell of views. Yeah. But I went on your YouTube and I was like, that's weird. Yeah. You know? So that makes sense now. Holy crap.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, like the Treg one that dropped two weeks ago is the biggest show. Yeah, that blew up. The numbers are bananas right now on the back end. It's crazy. That is insane. So Canada is like China almost. It is.

So they're heavily owned by the ccp uh csis which is our fbi came out and did a large scale full opening being like we have a ton of funding coming from the ccp into the trudeau administration so we we fully understand and then when you have people like christina freeland who family backs to the nazi like it's just there's some dicey stuff going on in our government including made and like the attempts to constantly kill more people using taxpayer dollars so part of the reason i come on these shows because obviously when awesome people invite me i love it so thank you but when i'm given these opportunities i'm doing my best to sound the alarm because you won't see this in Canada very much, right?

And it's important for other people in America to understand that we are your hat and we're burning. Wow. Right? We have an election next year. And if he gets back in, Canada right now, economically, Jordan Peterson was speaking about this.

We are on track to have the worst economic downturn for the next 30 years in Canada has ever seen. Our life expectancy has gone down. In Canada? Yeah. Wow. Why? I think it's like two years it's gone down. That's a lot. That's a lot. America's at three, I think. Yeah. It's not looking good here either. No, no, no. I wonder why. There's a lot there. There's a lot there. And this election in America too is a big one. So I'm genuinely concerned. I am watching your stuff like a hawk. Yeah. We'll see what happens. Yeah. Cause it just feels like if Trump can win California

and then he doesn't win the presidency, I just feel like a lot of people are going to go to the streets with some violence. If he wins Cali, that'd be nuts. I just... I don't think they've ever voted, right? No, I don't think a lot of people... I don't think a lot of people are willing to have Biden back in because they've kind of seen what's happened,

especially with your border issues. It's been a trip to witness. It's terrible. You guys then have your borders open and then they come up through New York into Ontario. Oh, they come to Canada too? Oh, yeah. Damn, they're going across the whole country? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Because Canada will also do the similar thing that you guys are doing, right? Really? We'll house you. We'll look after you. So if you come, you get an average of like between like 3200 to like 4000 a month if you have dependents and you come in as an immigrant in canada yeah so they get paid more yeah and you get like not in vancouver you could oh that's like a one bedroom apartment like relax um but that's part of the problem is you've got people coming into the

country at paces that our housing market can't handle at all we don't have the financial stability for it. And frankly, it's driving everything up for the people who were born in that country. And I don't have a problem with immigrants. My family are immigrants. Same, yeah. I'm all about it.

But they came legally. Come and write. I don't have an issue if you come. But like I said, Alana and Dean have been fighting for visas from the UK for four years and they just got them. Wow. And they did it the right way. They had to go back to London and hang out for a month every so-and-so and do it properly.

And they did. And I applaud that because that takes so much financial strain, so much effort. And everybody who's going to do it right deserves to be here. Absolutely. My mom was scrubbing floors, doing dishes. She came here for college and got her visa the right way. Right. And I think that's to be applauded, except we tell people that you get the cheat code you can come in whenever you want and that's just to me is is not acceptable

and i'm genuinely concerned i think it was was it brett weinstein or eric weinstein that was on rogan recently talking uh talking about the chinese coming through and the amount of chinese dissidents they're seeing come through up into america all fighting age males all military haircuts just really dicey stuff i'm genuinely concerned that is very concerning it is world war three might be coming well i feel like if it's going to start in texas it's not going to go well for anybody else except for the texans i wonder where canada will side on it well i think canada will side with whoever's going to pay pay the most money And I think you did see Canadians wake up, which is really beautiful. And that's why when people are like, why don't you leave?

Part of the problem is I believe in Canada. I love where I live. You grew up there, yeah. Dude, I love where I live. I'm five minutes from the ocean. I'm two hours door-to-door to Whistler. What am I complaining about? Right.

But I am struggling with what's happening from the, did you see the new hate bill that just came in? Wow, hate bill? Yeah. So they modified, let me see the new hate bill that just came in? Wow, hate bill? Yeah, so they modified, let me see if I can get this right. They modified the like child online act and then they made,

added in the hate bill. I think it's bill 63. I got to double check. But essentially they made it so that if you say something online that somebody deems hateful, they can charge you with a hate crime and the punishment is life in prison. No. Yes scary especially as a podcast i'm terrified right now wow what

about past videos or is it just current like future videos i'm not sure i just dropped a gnarly episode this week with somebody who is being banned from the weightlifting federation for going against one of the men that's trying to be a woman in their federation and so i'm sure i'm sure my time is coming. Holy crap. You might have to private all your videos. Listen, man, that's all right. My videos or my downloads don't come on my YouTube. Thank God, right?

That's insane. I would not live in a place where, no, free speech is important to me. It is, but we've never had it though. It's never been in our charter of rights. Oh, really? No, America has free speech, but it's never actually been written down in our charter of rights.

Wow, I guess we take it for granted in America then then absolutely i think most people do yeah i just assume other countries are like that but probably not absolutely not interesting i mean ceases has started going to the doors of canadians and showing up in masks because people are tweeting that like trudeau should be hanged and that i mean that happens here too if you turn the precedent you're the cia is not showing up at their door. If you're Alex Jones, they are. But yeah, not some random guy. Yeah, but just random husband and wives were tweeting this.

There's a ton of videos online where CSIS is showing up at the door. Damn, yeah. For random people, that's a bit extreme, I think. Yeah, but it's just their attempt to, it's intimidation. Yeah. It's intimidation to silence. And that should say everything to anybody. If Canada is sending their police department, CSIS, and other government agencies to silence you that should say everything to anybody if canada is sending their police department ceases and other government agencies to silence you from tweeting they are so focused

on the wrong thing right you know what i mean they should be focused on the fact that now our prime minister is telling people you know what don't worry about having your cars broken into leave your keys on the dash so they can just steal it they literally said to do that it sounds like san francisco right because the same vibe man yeah same steal it they literally said to do that it sounds like san francisco right because the same vibe man yeah same vibe now they're learning that they have access to all your messages on facebook and stuff yeah and if you threaten the president they know yeah of course they have access to everything anybody says they don't all they need to use is pegasus they need your phone number that's about it that's it yeah they see all your texts they see your bank accounts

didn't signal just get bought by facebook did they i don't know i heard that maybe i'm wrong but somebody said that to me recently i was like well i heard they're not even encrypted to be honest so i stopped using it what are you using telegram really yeah fine that's best you could do like chats that disappear oh i like that yeah i'm gonna have to jump on that then yeah that's the move uh what's his name robert edward grant okay him he's starting his own messenger. No. Yes. Fully encrypted. Okay, I need that. That's fantastic.

Shout out to Robert. Yeah, absolutely. Let me know when that's out. I want to get my hands on that. I need that. I need that where I live. When people text me and it shows up green, I just don't respond. I just don't answer.

Thank God I text you in blue. You know what's really wild too? And I want to take a second to acknowledge this if we can. You, out of everybody i know and you and i both know some really interesting human beings and both of our phones are deadly and the one thing i will say that you are one of maybe like the top five people that's ever been like this you are the person who responds you respond and i know how busy you are yeah i get a lot of texts but you take time i do i spend hours a lot of texts. But you take time.

I do. I spend hours a day responding. But I want you to know like that doesn't go unseen. That is not a trait that people possess. I take pride in it. Even with my networking events,

there's like 500 people. I manually text every single person myself and that takes, now it takes like four or five hours. Yeah, it's a big deal but the fact that you do that, that says a lot about your character and your integrity and that's why people go to the ends of the earth for you that's the very that's the difference right like i have some big people

and i'll text them and if they don't respond but then i see them watching my stories on instagram yeah oh don't think i'll be texting you back after that yeah it's just i don't i don't believe i believe that if someone's going to give you their time i get get we all have lives, but I know how busy you are. I know how busy some of these people are, but yet somehow they get to it. Yeah. Right? It's rude.

I think, I mean, if someone's texting and asking for shit and they keep doing that, I won't respond to that. Right. But it's always like back and forth and we have good things we're providing each other. Yeah, I just think you're a good human and I think anything that I can,

you know, somebody taught me this a long time ago and I believe in it wholeheartedly and it's like anything i have is yours yeah i'm the same way right because it's like rising tides and this is not a zero-sum game this podcast world is massive but yet there's a lot of gatekeepers a lot especially at the level we're at now bro oh my god i don't even ask like big shows for guests because i know they'll say they're not gonna you know what's really funny you say that but trig has been money really those guys have been gone to the ends of the earth for me i said listen i want to talk to mike baker yeah because he was recording apparently the day i was in london but in the morning okay i was like he was in the room that's dope and so he came on the show

and uh he loved it and he's flying to vancouver in june i think it's different in the spiritual space because i've had robert grant send me guests and a few guys like that. Yeah. So. Yeah. Well, Mike Baker's not in the spiritual space and neither is Trigg. Oh, Trigg isn't? Trigonometry? I thought they have on like spiritual people. Oh my God.

No, they have like, oh God, they had a mafia guy on last week. Okay. And then they had a British parliament member the week before. And then they have like university professors, Tony Hinchcliffe. So there's some good ones out there. Oh my God. I think there is. I think it comes down to the people.

And I think that reciprocity is not, it's just not like that anymore. And I think people, if you show up for others, they will show up for you truly and genuinely. But at the same time, I think sometimes people get to a certain stage in their lives and their business and they just don't think

that they need to be kind anymore. Yeah. And I just don't believe that. I don't believe that. And they also fear being being canceled so they don't want to go on shows like ours because we just have on honest people yeah honest people yeah but that says everything to me though about you it does it's a shame though a lot of these celebs won't go on and that's and and that's what we were just talking about that's why i want to talk to theo so bad yeah he would go on he's different well and the reason i want to talk to him is because of the trauma side of things.

He's got some trauma. But he's got, yeah. And I just, when I see him, I see a seven-year-old little boy that needs a hug. Same with Sean Strickland. That dude needs some. He needs some love.

Some love, for sure. Yeah, he needs some love. And I think that's the really nice thing is that's why when you surround yourself with good people, you will continually be,

what's the word I'm looking for? You will continually, if you hold your hands out to the world and say, everything I have is yours, how can I help you? How can I be there and support you? The world will always come back. And it might not be immediate, but you just have to trust that as long as you're doing things for the right reason, you're helping people because that's where it's coming from. If everything comes from a place of love, that's it. It doesn't matter after that, man. I love that. Kelsey, anything you want to promote or close off with?

I know you got the book. Yeah, absolutely. The book's available on Amazon. I have a new website, kelseysharon.com, where you can book any of my coaching or my speaking. I'm definitely looking to do more keynotes this year. And I'm definitely looking to work a lot heavier in the coaching space. And I'm really loving the work I'm doing right now. But ultimately, I'm out here just trying to spread the message that you can heal man and

you can be so much better for it and this life is not happening to you man it's happening for you love it we'll end it there thanks for watching guys thanks for coming on Kelsey see you next time thanks for having me