Digital Social Hour - The Hidden Science Behind True Healing I Dr. Pete Goldman DSH #1343

Episode Date: April 20, 2025

Unlock "The Hidden Science Behind True Healing" in this mind-blowing episode of the Digital Social Hour Podcast with Sean Kelly and special guest Dr. Pete Goldman! 🌟 Discover the fascinating connec...tion between the subconscious mind, mindset, and physical healing as Dr. Pete shares groundbreaking insights from his decades of experience. From overcoming chronic conditions to understanding the placebo effect, this episode is packed with valuable insights you won’t want to miss. 🧠✨ Dr. Pete dives deep into how emotions, beliefs, and subconscious programming impact health, explaining why true healing goes beyond traditional methods. Whether you’re curious about chiropractic care, subconscious transformation, or how to achieve optimal health, this conversation has something for everyone. 🚀 Don’t miss out—watch now and subscribe for more insider secrets. 📺 Hit that subscribe button and stay tuned for more eye-opening stories on the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! 🔥 Join the conversation and transform your perspective on health today! 💬 CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 00:35 - Dr. Pete's Chiropractic Journey 03:51 - The Healing Process Explained 06:49 - Conscious vs Subconscious Mind 12:19 - Imagination and Willpower 15:12 - Charlie Rocket's Impact 17:50 - Knee Surgery Research Insights 22:03 - Understanding Hypnosis Mechanisms 24:40 - Patient Trust and Healing 30:20 - Common Health Issues Encountered 33:40 - Zone School of Healing Overview 37:36 - Emotions and Health Connection 40:46 - Genetics and Health Influence 49:21 - Finding Dr. Matt Online APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: jenna@digitalsocialhour.com GUEST: Dr. Pete Goldman https://www.instagram.com/zoneschoolofhealing/ SPONSORS: AIRES TECH: https://airestech.com/ LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ #holistichealth #chiropractorinburkeva #spiritualhealth #acupunctureburkeva #integrativemedicine The views and opinions expressed by guests on Digital Social Hour are solely those of the individuals appearing on the podcast and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of the host, Sean Kelly, or the Digital Social Hour team. While we encourage open and honest conversations, Sean Kelly is not legally responsible for any statements, claims, or opinions made by guests during the show. Listeners are encouraged to form their own opinions and consult professionals for advice where appropriate. Content on this podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only and should not be considered legal, medical, financial, or professional advice.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 When they say, I'm going to help you. But by the way, here's the trip. 99% of doctors who do this, they don't even know they're doing it. They're doing it inadvertently. They think it's the needle, the adjustment, or they think it is. Yeah. Like the acupuncturist is like, I've been an acupuncturist for 20 years. I've helped a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:00:17 It is the needles. And the chiropractor is like, I've helped a lot of people. It's the adjustment. All right guys, Dr. Pete Goldman here today. We're going to talk health and healing. Can't wait to hear your story, man. Thank you. I'm very happy to be here. Yeah, it all started being a chiropractor, right? So when I was a kid, uh growing up in Brooklyn, New York where I'm born and raised, um, I grew up in kind of a unique family in the sense that most families I think, you know, they go family in the sense that most families, I think,
Starting point is 00:00:49 you know, they go to medical doctors, they get like, you know, they get vaccinated, they get their checkup, you know, whatever, or maybe if they don't feel well, they go to the medical doctor. I grew up in a house where we didn't like, we had, um, kind of three primary doctors we would use them. We were healthy, but just for whatever. We had a naturopath who works with like herbs and diet. We had a homeopath. That's a kind of healing.
Starting point is 00:01:09 And we had a chiropractor. So I kind of just grew up under that umbrella of natural healing. It never occurred to me to do it. I didn't want to be a chiropractor. I didn't want to be a doctor. It didn't even, it wasn't even on my radar. Um, and I went to college, I was an economics major, which is with more of my interests, like investment banking and things like that.
Starting point is 00:01:29 And then it's after I graduated college, a few years later, I decided to be a chiropractor. So I went to chiropractic school. So I am officially a chiropractor. I would say almost in name only. And then I had a very interesting path where I just learned some very interesting. And powerful aspects of healing that I would say transcend chiropractic, not that chiropractic is not great.
Starting point is 00:01:47 I have full respect for the profession and other chiropractors, but I kind of went on a different path. Yeah. Cause chiropractors, that's just one form of healing, right? It is. And if you think about it, it's an interesting thing. And obviously you're a smart guy. So when I say this, you'll, you'll relate to this.
Starting point is 00:02:02 When someone wants to know, you know, what heals, what, what heals? Like, why do people heal when they heal and why do people not heal when they don't heal? So let's just take like a simple thing like asthma. Let's just say, you know, you have a friend who has asthma and you see, you know, he has a little inhaler. He's okay. It's not, you know, it's not terrible, but kind of once a day he has to use his
Starting point is 00:02:20 inhaler because, you know, his lungs are not functioning well. So let's just pretend someone with asthma went to, you know, they're trying to solve it. They don't want to use their inhaler anymore. They want their lungs to be healthy. They don't want to have to rely on an inhaler. Right. So we already know that the medical doctor said, look, you know, it's, it's not a terrible condition, but here's this inhaler.
Starting point is 00:02:39 You'll probably use it your whole life. Your lungs don't really, your lungs don't really function properly by itself. So you have this inhaler. So maybe they go to a chiropractor, let's just say, and the chiropractor says, listen, there's a bone called T3, kind of pointing to it, of the area. And the nerves that emanate from T3 go to your lungs and your bronchial tubes. So if that bone is out of place, putting pressure on that nerve as it leaves the spinal column, potentially your lungs and brow field tubes are not getting the right signals.
Starting point is 00:03:09 So maybe they're not functioning right. And now you have what's called asthma, but I'm going to put this bone in place, take pressure off the nerve. And then theoretically you'll breathe perfectly and will not need your inhaler anymore. Now that's happened many times. That's happened. Well, hundreds of thousands, maybe millions, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Well, of just some one adjustment? Well, it could be one adjustment or it could be 20, but after, you know, or 30 or 10 or whatever, because everyone heals at their own rate. But after a certain amount of adjustments, getting that bone in place, it could open up the nerve flow and they don't have asthma. Many people have gone to chiropractors
Starting point is 00:03:42 and don't have asthma. Now, some people have gone to chiropractors with asthma and it didn't work. We'll get into that later if you like. But the point is from the outside, like I said, a sharp guy like you, you might be like, well, I guess medical doctors can't really fix asthma, but I guess chiropractors can. But if we believe that, it may or may not be true, we would think, oh, I guess the cause of asthma is this T3 bone being out of place. Like when you put it in place, it goes away. Okay. Could be.
Starting point is 00:04:12 But let's say someone says, you know what? I have a friend who's an acupuncturist or I have a friend who knows an acupuncturist. And they go to the acupuncturist who's not looking at the bones, not looking at T3, not looking at so-called nerve impingement, the T3. And the acupuncturist says, I'm going to feel your pulse. I'm going to look at your tongue. bones, not looking at T3, not looking at so-called nerve impingement, the T3. And the acupuncturist says, I'm going to feel your pulse. I'm going to look at your tongue. That's what acupuncturists do to analyze the body. Like you know, if me and you felt someone's pulse, we just like feel like whatever that
Starting point is 00:04:35 meant to us. But an acupuncturist, the pulse reading they do is so specific, they can evaluate all the organs of your body and all the systems of our body. That's how acupuncture works. Also, they can look at your body and all the systems of your body. That's how acupuncture works. Also, they can look at your tongue and they can tell about your body. So an acupuncturist might look at your tongue and feel your pulse, right? And then they put needles in certain places to open up from what I'm not an acupuncturist, but from what I understand meridians, which are like energy channels.
Starting point is 00:05:01 So many people have gone to acupuncturists and they don't have asthma anymore. Like I said, me and you are like, maybe acupuncture is the cure for asthma. They didn't look at T3 like the chiropractor. If the chiropractor says no, the cause of asthma is a T3 misalignment, putting it in place as a solution, is that always so if the acupuncturist can take care of it without putting that? Okay, so then we go to a Ever thought about how much EMF and radiation your body is exposed to every single day? From smartphones to Wi-Fi, modern technology never stops emitting invisible stressors that could disrupt the brain function, hormone balance and cellular health.
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Starting point is 00:06:21 And someone takes a homeopathic dose. Now they have no asthma, but they never got the needles. So when you think about what really heals, it's a little mysterious at that point because why can they always work? So anyway, there are underlying principles and I would say a common denominator of healing and when one understands that they
Starting point is 00:06:45 kind of will understand why healing works when it works and why healing doesn't work when it doesn't work. Yeah. Do you think a common denominator is the mindset of the person getting healed? I do. And I would actually say very, very good. And I would actually say that there's a lot of specifics to that because there's a difference between the conscious mind and the subconscious mind.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Now, of course, we're just using terminology to quantify things that are really hard to quantify, but it's not like we're walking around with an actual, with a mind that's split in two, that's conscious and subconscious, but we're just doing our best to talk about it. So one could say that their conscious mind is things that they're aware of. Like you're sitting here right now,
Starting point is 00:07:23 you're like, oh, this is an interesting interview or whatever, or uncomfortable, or it's too hot sitting here right now, you're like, oh, this is an interesting interview, whatever, or I'm comfortable, or it's too hot in here, or it's too cold in here, or the temperature is great in here. That's your conscious mind. But sub meaning below, subconscious just means below conscious.
Starting point is 00:07:37 So we all have things below our conscious, below what we're kind of aware of at the moment, but it's still in there. So just to be clear, how do they get in the subconscious? How do these things get in the subconscious? And once they're in the subconscious, how do they play out in the body and the life? So it appears from, you know, a lot of observation that the concepts in our subconscious, whether we're aware of them or not,
Starting point is 00:08:05 are manifesting in our body as either health or disease or whatever. And that goes to what you were saying about the mindset of the person healing or not healing, and also has to do with things manifesting in our life, what's playing out in our life. Now, what happens is when you're roughly seven years old, roughly, your conscious mind forms.
Starting point is 00:08:25 So there's almost like a barrier over your subconscious, which is kind of a protecting your subconscious and B making you maybe not totally aware of what's in it because it's subconscious unless you maybe you do like a dream therapy and I'm not an expert on dream therapy, but maybe someone's like, Oh, you know, your dreams are really your subconscious, you know, at night coming up. And then you talk about your dreams and you have an idea of what's in your subconscious could be, or maybe they do a word association test where they put you in a relaxed state. They say certain words and you know, like, for example, you talk to someone and not talk to them, but you say, okay, I'm going to say these words, right.
Starting point is 00:09:00 And you say to them like a war and they say bombs. I mean, that's what we do. And then you say like ocean, war and they say bombs. I mean, that's the way it is. And then you say like ocean, they say wet, whatever. But then you say like, I'm just making this up. You say like father and they go love. They say like mother and they're like, huh? And you're like, I mean, I've obviously heard you, mother and they're like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:09:20 So already you can see that subconsciously there might be some issues or problems with their Interaction or feelings about their mother. Now again, I'm not an expert on word association tests. I'm just giving an example There's dream there's dream analysis. There's word association tests, then you get a kind of clue. What's in the subconscious, but I would say this Let's just say someone says at this point in our chat. They're like, well, I Know it's in my conscious because I'm thinking about it right now. But how do I really know it's in my subconscious? One way would be one way to determine that would be to see, look at your body and look
Starting point is 00:09:59 at your life. That's a pretty good representation of the concepts in your subconscious. Now doesn't mean they can't change because someone could be ill or someone could not like their life, but they can change their concepts to improve what's in their life and improve their body, which is a different conversation. But back to one other point, how did it get like that in the first place? So I said at about seven years old, the conscious mind is formed. Well, from birth till seven, you're kind of like one big subconscious
Starting point is 00:10:26 and all the stuff that happens around you from birth till seven gets accepted as fact by your subconscious. You know, like if, uh, if, if your parent tells you when you're five, Hey, you're a great kid. You're super strong. You're super smart. You know, whatever chances are those concepts of strength and intelligence and confidence will be in your subconscious even as an adult. But if a parent unfortunately says like, you know, negative stuff to the kid, that those concepts can get in the subconscious. So taking it fully to what you said about the mindset of the patient.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Yes, like let's, let's, let's bring it back to the so, you know, the the mindset of the patient. Yes, like let's bring it back to the imaginary example of the parent, the parent says, hey, when the kid's five, you're delicate, be careful, always button up, don't go out with your hair wet, be careful when you go out, always make sure that you have the right jacket or whatever, because you're very delicate, you have a weak immune system, right?
Starting point is 00:11:25 So now that person grows up and they have this belief that they have a weak immune system, subconscious belief that they have a weak immune system. And probably when it does get windier, they don't have the right jacket or their hair gets wet, they probably will get sick. Well, but the kid whose parent says, you're made out of steel, you're tough.
Starting point is 00:11:41 I mean, of course take care of yourself, but don't worry about it. You're fine. You have a super strong constitution, a super strong immune system that gets in the subconscious. Now that kid's 26 years old, it's real windy. They forget their jacket. All their friends are like shivering or you know, and they're like, I'm fine. And they probably will be fine. So a master healer, whether they're a chiropractor or acupuncturist or a medical doctor or some energy worker
Starting point is 00:12:05 or a hypnotist or whatever. And a master healer will know how to identify what's in the subconscious in regards to health or disease and will know how to put a healing concept in the subconscious to manifest. So they're able to heal the subconscious without the person taking action? Well, first of all, yes. And let me, let me say a few things about that. A person of course can take action just with their own willpower. Like someone might just say, you know what? I'm, I'm going to start eating better.
Starting point is 00:12:38 I'm going to start exercising better, et cetera, et cetera. Now that's them taking action that might help their body. But here's an important thing. Imagination always beats will. Not that will is not good. Cause you like, for example, let's say Sean, let's say you're like, I'm in pretty good shape, but I want to be in better shape. So I'm going to get up every morning and jog and then lift weights.
Starting point is 00:12:56 Let's just say you decide to do that. You're a smart guy. You're a successful guy. You probably do have good willpower and you, and then you're like, I've been eating a lot of desserts. I'm going to chill out with the desserts. You know, that's your willpower. You know, I'm not saying it's worthless.
Starting point is 00:13:08 I'm not saying it doesn't work, but imagination beats it. So if someone has a concept, if someone has a concept in their subconscious and that concept is that they're kind of like have low self-esteem. They don't really feel worthy, things like that. And then they go in a job interview and the person starts interviewing them. And that image they have of themselves, which maybe their parents told them that they were all those negative things.
Starting point is 00:13:41 That takes over, even if their willpower says before they walk in the interview, I'm going to be fine. I'm going to walk in there. I'm going to be confident it's going to fall apart because the will only go so far, but the imagination will beat it. And a quick example of that, Sean, if we put a tight rope from where you're sitting over to that wall, but it's, um, you know, just taped in the floor. You could walk on it, but if that floor wasn't there and there were two buildings with 130 floors on it,
Starting point is 00:14:08 you know, your imagination of falling could make you lose your balance. Right. The pressure of it. Right. So that's why, even if you're like, I'm, even if your will says, I'm walking there, I'm, it doesn't matter because the imagination will beat it. So that's a little example. When you said without, you kind of said said if the healer or doctor changes the person's subconscious, even if the person doesn't do anything, they can do stuff.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Like I said, eat better, exercise, whatever. But yes, even without them doing something, because there could be some someone who has a concept of having, let's just say terrible digestion and they do have terrible digestion And then the healer says I'm gonna do XYZ and your digestion is gonna heal if they have rapport together and that idea of perfect digestion can go into the subconscious either from the adjustment maybe taking the pressure off the nerves to the digestive organs The acupuncture needle which opens up the meridians for digestion, the herb, which fixes digestion, as long as the image attached to it gets into the subconscious of the patient, they get, yeah, this reminds me of my friend, Charlie rocket, actually.
Starting point is 00:15:17 He's been trying to lose weight for 10 years and documenting the journey on social media, but he just can't lose weight. He's doing all the right things physically. It must be some mental blockage or something. I would say a couple of things. I'm not familiar with him, of course, but I would say a couple of things. First of all, let's just take a physical level first. Let's just say his body is so unbalanced.
Starting point is 00:15:35 I'm not saying it is, but let's just say his body is so unbalanced that even with good exercise and good eating, his metabolism is so off, he can't lose weight. Let's say he went to a good healer. I mean, I could help him. Let's say he went to, I'm not saying I'm the only one who could, but let's say he went to a good healer, got his metabolism balanced. Then he eats well and exercises well, like he's already doing. And then he most likely, most likely will lose weight.
Starting point is 00:15:59 That's a physical answer, but let's talk about a non-physical answer. Yes. If his concept, I mean, this might sound almost radical or odd to people, but yes, if his concept is that he's fat and food makes him fat, he'll eat the same thing that he would eat if his concept was different and it will actually have a different effect on his cells. Just to be clear, if you just to be clear about that, if for example, let's just say you told me, I'm just making this up.
Starting point is 00:16:28 Let's say you told me that you were allergic to gluten and dairy. You don't like to eat gluten. And you know, when you eat gluten and dairy, you don't feel well, right? Now, let's say I said to you, I'm gonna do X, Y, Z to balance your body. And then you're gonna be able to eat gluten and dairy.
Starting point is 00:16:41 Because you know, I'd say a balanced body can eat gluten and dairy, a non-balanced body maybe can't, but I'm gonna balance your body with whatever I do. And then a month later, you're like, man, Dr. Pete was right. I mean, I'm eating pizza. I feel fine. I mean, right.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Now, if I gave you a legit physical exchange like a chiropractic adjustment or the technique I do or whatever, that's one path, but the placebo effect is very strong. So if I said to you, listen, Sean, I know you were having trouble with dairy and gluten. I know you were, but see this over here? This is a natural, it's an herb,
Starting point is 00:17:12 it has no side effects whatsoever. So if it doesn't work, the worst that will happen is nothing. Take this, I want you to take two a day, not three, not one, two a day for 30 days. This will reset and heal your entire digestive system. And then you'll be able to eat gluten and dairy. If that idea gets in your subconscious, even if I'm giving you a freaking sugar
Starting point is 00:17:33 pill, you'll be able to eat gluten and dairy. Wow. That's how strong the placebo is. And you see it in a lot of studies too. There's always a study accounting for placebo, right? And every single time there's increased results. Totally. And that's for placebo, right? And every single time there's increased results. Totally. And that's the subconscious, right?
Starting point is 00:17:47 That is, that is that idea of getting into the subconscious. You know, there was this really interesting, um, I read about this. I don't think this is hard to find, but I read about this. They did. I don't know the exact details, but anyone who looks it up can find the exact details. It was a knee surgery study. Well, listen to a knee surgery study. Well, listen to this, knee surgery study. And what they did was they took,
Starting point is 00:18:08 I don't know the exact numbers, but I think it was about a hundred people who had real MRIs of their knees, who had like, you know, a meniscus or a lateral, whatever it was, they had real knee issues that showed up on an MRI. And I think what they did was, and they all needed, they all needed surgery.
Starting point is 00:18:26 They took, I think, 50 of them and they did the surgery. They did a real surgery on them. And the other 50, they did a placebo surgery. They just put them under, they cut their knee. Wow. So to back up, they had the, I think almost to the exact number, or maybe it was off by a number or two,
Starting point is 00:18:43 same improvement rate. They both had like a 64% rate. So imagine that 64% or whatever it was improvement rate, placebo knee surgery and real knee surgery. That is crazy. That is so crazy. And here's one, if you think that's crazy, check this out. There's a medical journal in England.
Starting point is 00:19:00 I think it's pronounced Lancet. I may be pronouncing it wrong, but in America we have like the New England journal of medicine, it's a medical journal or one of the biggest ones, or maybe it's the biggest one, I don't know. And in England, they have Lancet, if I'm pronouncing it right, that's like their version. So I read this in Lancet.
Starting point is 00:19:17 It was like one of those like historical issues where they talked about, listen to this, this is a real story. There was a guy, I think the year was 1902. And if it wasn't 1902, it was like 1904, but it was around 1902 in England. He was on death row. And what they, what they, some of the doctors at the time in England were kind of understanding the things that we're talking about now, like the subconscious placebo or whatever, you know, or things in the subconscious manifesting things
Starting point is 00:19:44 like that, and they wanted to experiment on this guy while they were actually now like the subconscious placebo or whatever, you know, or things in the subconscious manifesting things like that. And they wanted to experiment on this guy while they were executing him. He was on death row. I guess prisoners didn't have a lot of rights then. So sort of like, we're just gonna, we're gonna, while we kill you, we're gonna experiment. So what they did is a real story. And they had like at the thing that had people, you know, observing like some medical doctors
Starting point is 00:20:03 and some people who kind of understood this subconscious stuff, what they did was they cut a slit on the back of his neck, a little slit and they blindfolded him. They told him he was going to bleed to death down his back. So they blindfolded them. They cut the slit, but then they sealed it right away. So he lost no blood or he or he lost a drop of blood. But remember, he was blindfolded. He felt the little cut.
Starting point is 00:20:32 They told him they were going to have him bleed to death down his back. They dripped water over the cut. He had the sensation of bleeding to death down his back. He died in six minutes. Dead. He was dead. What? Dead in six minutes. And it gets better. Well, not better gets worse
Starting point is 00:20:46 Whatever the word is because they have the medical doctors there his body in those six minutes Underwent all the changes of someone bleeding to death. Oh my gosh. He lost one drop of blood So the body somehow knew how to simulate that totally because it just accepted that idea is kind of an unfortunate idea It accepted that idea but kind of an unfortunate idea. It accepted that idea. But you can do the opposite. I mean, I've had, I started taking care of patients in the mid 1990s. I don't know, I never tabulated, you know, is that tens of thousands, hundreds? I don't know how many that was, but I've had people come to me,
Starting point is 00:21:21 you know, when people think of chiropractic, right? They think like neck pain, back pain, shoulder pain, knee pain, which of course I can help. But when you think of chiropractic, you don't think of like livers and like pancreases and like thyroid and gynecological stuff and blood pressure. But that's actually what I did all these years and do and do and teach other doctors and healers how to do. Of course there's a physical component and I do teach a technique called the zone technique. Of course there's a physical component, but understanding how to identify the concepts
Starting point is 00:21:55 in the patient's subconscious and changing them plays a huge role. And I would say this, it's pretty interesting. Let's just take hypnosis. Let's just take hypnosis. Let's just discuss hypnosis for a moment. I'm not actually know how to do hypnosis. I'm not teaching hypnosis, but let's just discuss hypnosis. It's pretty fascinating.
Starting point is 00:22:15 So imagine here's a person, here's a person, right? And they have a conscious mind and a subconscious mind. And here's a hypnotist. Here's the hypnotist over here. So the way hypnosis works is when the hypnotist puts this person in a hypnotic state or a hypnotic trance or whatever you wanna call it, their conscious mind says goodbye for the moment.
Starting point is 00:22:36 It's not gone forever, but you know, for that half hour hypnosis session, their conscious mind is bye. So now their subconscious is wide open. They have certain concepts in their life. They can't stop smoking or they can't stop eating or they have low self-esteem or they're always tired or whatever their problem is.
Starting point is 00:22:54 Or they're nervous around people, whatever their thing is. So they have these concepts. That's why they went to the hippotist for some kind of healing or some kind of benefit. So the hippotist puts the subconscious, excuse me, the conscious aside, then he or she talks right into the subconscious, right into the subconscious, right, and puts these new, like, let's say they were,
Starting point is 00:23:13 I don't know, uncomfortable in social situations. You're comfortable, you're confident when you get around people, you're happy to be there, they're happy to see you, you're happy to see them, you love going to parties, whatever they say, you know, whatever. And then that's in there, right? Then they take them out of their hypnotic state.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Their conscious mind is put back, they're wide awake again. They're back on their normal faculties. But the concept is in there. And now if they go to a good hypnotist, hopefully they're like, man, they say they used to always be nervous at parties. And I'm like, man, I go to parties, I feel, I mean, sometimes they don't want to go to a party. They want to stay home and relax, but when they do go around people, they feel fine.
Starting point is 00:23:50 Or the person who always was anxious, right? And the hypnotist says, what do you mean you're always anxious? I mean, if you're standing online at Starbucks, are you nervous? Yes. Okay. So we are new, they have. So then they put them in this hypnotic trance and they're saying, when you're in public,
Starting point is 00:24:07 even when you're in private, when you're at home, when you're online at Starbucks, when you're on an airplane, when you're walking, when you're in Sean's studio, whatever, just calm as could be, just calm as could be. And this person who knows they used to literally be online at Starbucks, nervous, ready to have a panic attack,
Starting point is 00:24:24 now they're like, I'm just waiting for my order. I mean, they may be annoyed that it's taking so long. They're still human. I'm not saying they won't have different emotions or thoughts, or maybe they're in a hurry, they're kind of late, whatever, but are they gonna be standing there nervous? No, because of this, with a good hip,
Starting point is 00:24:40 it's just putting this in. So with that said, I just wanted to explain that as a foundation. Let's talk about healing now. Now let's wipe that said, I just wanted to explain that as a foundation. Let's talk about healing now. Now let's wipe that clean. Right? We have a new clean slate. Here's the patient, right? This patient has whatever problem they have.
Starting point is 00:24:52 This patient, it's a woman who has period cramps every month. She tells the doctor she can't even get out of bed because her period cramps are so bad every month, the first two days of her period are unbearable. You know, she takes Advil or whatever to make it a little better than it would have been. She can't even get out of bed because her period cramps are so bad. Every month, the first two days of her period are unbearable. You know, she takes Advil or whatever to make it a little better than it would have been. She also has very bad digestion and she has also insomnia. And she also has neck pain. So that's, you know, she has, you know, period cramps, digestive problems, sleep problems, and neck pain.
Starting point is 00:25:21 She presents with those things. So those are all manifesting in her body. Now there's a subconscious component to that. So here's not a hypnotist. It's not a hypnotist. This is the acupuncturist. This is the chiropractor. This is the homeopath. This is the medical doctor. Whoever. This is a doctor. So this doctor is not going to hypnotize them. They're not a hypnotist, but they want to access their subconscious, which is a little trickier because they're wide awake. They're not putting them in this hypnotic state where their conscious says goodbye for the moment.
Starting point is 00:25:56 They're wide awake. Their conscious is active. They still want to get in the subconscious. So this is a big subject I'm kind of summarizing, but in summary, if this patient has faith in this doctor, another word would be if they have rapport, like they have some kind of rapport together. If this patient, like for example, when I walked in, right, I said, how do you,
Starting point is 00:26:19 you know, we met, we shook hands. And if someone right at that moment, just that moment said, hey Sean, you want Pete to work on you? You want to cut a healing? I mean, you might've said yes, because you might've read about me and know that I'm competent.
Starting point is 00:26:34 But you know, like we had a pretty good rapport, but now we're talking, we have a better rapport. So now you're like, yeah, I let Pete work on me. You know, if I had a problem, I'd let Pete in a second. Because our rapport is building just from, you know, talking and like you understanding what I teach and things like that. Okay. Anyway, so here's now let's say they have rapport.
Starting point is 00:26:53 This one for whatever reason, this one has faith in this one for whatever. Maybe they got a referral. Maybe their best friend. Okay. Their best friend was like, their best friend had migraine headaches. They had migraine headaches. Their best friend's like, dude, friend had migraine headaches. They had migraine headaches. Their best friend's like, dude, I don't know what this guy does, but the migraines are gone. You've had them.
Starting point is 00:27:11 No one's been able to fix you. Go to this guy. Your head will feel perfect. I mean, that's, you might go with some faith in them just from that. There's different ways to get faith, but that's a way. Yeah. So now what happens is check this out. Remember how I said there's this little barrier at seven years old between the
Starting point is 00:27:29 conscious and the subconscious. So here's the conscious and the subconscious. Here's the barrier. What happens is the barrier opens. The barrier opens if there's faith. If this has, if this one has faith in this one, the barrier to the subconscious, not hypnosis, they're wide awake, is hip, in Latin I believe means sleep.
Starting point is 00:27:51 So it's a sleep state. Now they're wide awake, but when there's rapport, this barrier opens. And now this person can just talk straight into this one, just from the conscious to the conscious and say, I'm gonna put these needles in you and your head's gonna to feel better or I'm going to adjust to you and your head's going to feel better. And then it goes like this conscious to conscious in the subconscious because that barrier got
Starting point is 00:28:17 open, not hypnosis. Remember, hypnosis is just, Hey, I'm putting you in hypnosis. The conscious is gone. I'm just talking into your subconscious. This is your wide awake, but because you have faith in me or this one has faith in this patient has faith in the doctor, whatever kind of doctor it is. This barrier is open. And when they say, I'm going to help you.
Starting point is 00:28:36 But by the way, here's the trip. 99% of doctors who do this, they don't even know they're doing it. They're doing it inadvertently. They think it's the needle, the adjustment, the herb. They think it is. Like the acupuncturist is like, I've been an acupuncturist for 20 years. I've helped a lot of people. It is the needles.
Starting point is 00:28:52 And the chiropractor is like, I've helped a lot of people. It's the adjustment, but it's not. Wow. And by the way, I'm not saying that physical exchanges are meaningless. There's a validity to the chiropractic adjustment. There's a validity to the needle. There's a validity to the herb, but 90 plus percent of it is the image associated with it,
Starting point is 00:29:13 whether they know they're tapping into that or not. Now, if someone knows how to do this on purpose, their results can be a thousand times better. Wow, that is a crazy concept. That blows my mind honestly. And by the way, it's totally true. I've been doing it since 1993. Wow. So it's really just the words entering the subconscious. You got it. That is crazy. I've actually done that in those a few times. I felt a lot better afterwards.
Starting point is 00:29:36 I had some childhood trauma because you could use it in other... Use it any way you want. Like there could be someone who I'm just making this up. I'm not saying it applies to you, I'm just making this up. Let's say some kid was always beat by his dad or a stepdad and then he just, later on in life, he has that thing with men and violence, and later on in life he's just like talking to some guy and the guy's like, oh, the guy's just making a point, it's like, hey, this is really important,
Starting point is 00:30:01 and he gets a little like, he gets, because that old concept gets stimulated of a man going like this to him. If his dad used to always like hit him and go like this. So yes, and they go to a hypnotist and they can change that concept totally about men or whatever it might be. And hypnosis can be very powerful for that. What are the most common issues you're seeing right now?
Starting point is 00:30:22 There's a lot of infertility, a lot of health issues with people. Great question. So a couple of things. So I practiced from the mid nineties until 2021. And I'll be a little more specific. In two, I started practicing in the mid nineties. Now, if you go to most chiropractors offices and you walk around the waiting room and say, Hey, what are you here for?
Starting point is 00:30:40 What are you here for? Why 99% of them are going to say that they're there for neck and back pain. Well, of course, you know, once in a while a chiropractor was like, no, someone came with sinus problems or sinuses cleared up, or someone came with digestive problems. But that's like once every year. My office, if you asked all the people what they were there for, 99, well not 99, 90% of my patients were there for non-neck and back pain.
Starting point is 00:31:03 So of course, some people came for neck and back pain. I've taken care of a lot of pro athletes and things like that. But most of my patients came because they had period cramps or because they had terrible digestion or they had a thyroid problem or they had a liver problem
Starting point is 00:31:17 or they had a digestive problem. That was what I kind of specialized in. So with that said, and also by the way, just my hands and a flat chiropractic table and three minute adjustment. I wasn't giving herbs or vitamins. That's it. Three minutes? Three minutes, just my hands
Starting point is 00:31:34 and people coming from all over the world to heal from things that they otherwise weren't healing from. I'm talking people who have, they take a blood test, their thyroid is off. They take a blood test, their liver is off. They come for a couple months, everything's normal. I'm a blood test, their thyroid is off, they take a blood test, their liver is off, they come for a couple months, everything's normal. I'm a blood test.
Starting point is 00:31:47 Or someone who has debilitating period cramps, totally healed. Or someone who has terrible digestion, every time they eat food they get nauseous or whatever their problem is, and then a month or two later they digest their food perfectly. Now again, I do a physical technique which has validity. However, I
Starting point is 00:32:06 know how the subconscious works. I know how to access it. Back to your question though. What I did was from the mid 90s until 2017, I was practicing right? And one day in 2017, I was kind of like taking, I was kind of just thinking and I'm like, man, people are flying into me, which we tab, me and my assistants tabulated, people had flown into me from 30 different cities around the world, 30 different cities. They're flying in from New York, Chicago, Guam, Hawaii, UK, Germany, South Korea, Malaysia, Thailand, flying in the same, think about your average healer. They could be a chiropractor,
Starting point is 00:32:47 an acupuncturist, a medical doctor. Where do their patients live? Within a 45 minute drive of their office. How many people are, I mean, maybe they have one patient who loves them, they drive two hours, but I had people flying into me from all over the world, and many people driving four hours each way.
Starting point is 00:33:00 I told you this session was three minutes. They're driving eight hours in a day for a three minute session. Wow. Because that's how great the healing was. So in 2017, I'm like, I'm just going to teach other doctors and healers this. And I opened up the Zone School of Healing. It's called Zone School of Healing. It's an online program. I also do teach, I also do teach in-person events. And I mean, mean anyone who any doctor or healer who wants to be a better doctor or healer can join. They can be a chiropractor. I'll make them better. They can be an acupuncturist, an energy worker, a physical
Starting point is 00:33:33 I mean it's a massage therapist, a medical doctor, osteopath. Anyone who's a doctor or healer who wants to be better at it can join my school. It's zolinschoolofhealing.com. I just want to say this, if you think about it, and this is really my message to let's say the chiropractors or any of those groups, right now anyone who's watching or listening, they might be very competent, they might be a great chiropractor, but they have to ask themselves at this moment, how competent and how confident are they to take care of what I would call musculoskeletal issues and non-musculoskeletal issues.
Starting point is 00:34:08 Now, most chiropractors are pretty confident and competent with musculoskeletal issues. You don't look pretty good in neck and back pain. I'll tell them if they join my school, they'll be infinitely better. Now, most chiropractors are not that confident with non-musculoskeletal stuff. If someone comes to them with IBS or endometriosis, which is a gynecological condition, they're not really confident. I'll help them be infinitely more competent and confident with that. So that's my message to the chiropractors and any doctor or healer.
Starting point is 00:34:39 They go to zoneschoolofhealing.com. They're welcome to join, come to a live event, whatever, it's called live seminars, whatever they like. So that's that. It's a great offer, because if they increase their skills, their customers will be their marketing vehicle. You got it.
Starting point is 00:34:53 And it's funny he said that because I never claim, I never claim it all to my students. We have about 1500 doctors and healers worldwide as members and I've taught many more in the live seminars. I've never claimed join my school. You're going to make more money or join my school. Your practice will triple. Only thing I'm saying is join my school.
Starting point is 00:35:12 You'll be an infinitely more effective healer and doctor. But like you said, of course, if you're way better, you're going to make a lot more money, you're going to have a much bigger practice. So that just happens on a side note, but it does happen. Yeah, that's brilliant. You took that step because now you can impact the world rather than just your local totally office. Now you have 1500, you said located 1500, we have 1500 members worldwide.
Starting point is 00:35:33 And I think five continents, I just taught in Germany and England. Wow. Um, and from. Mid nineties till 2021, I practiced practice from 2017 to 2021 was like an overlap. I had my school already and I had my practice. And from 2021 till now, I stopped practicing only cause running zone school has become a full-time work. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:56 I run zone school full-time and I no longer officially practice. However, I did practice from the mid nineties till 2021. This is so needed right now, especially with all the health issues too, man. You know, it's amazing. Like when I think, and I'm not trying to dis medical doctors or dis medicine. I'm really not quite, because quite frankly, God forbid someone like crashes on their motorcycle. We better thank God there's medical doctors because I don't know how to save their life, but they do.
Starting point is 00:36:20 And God forbid someone has a birth appendix. We better thank God we have medical doctors because who's going to save their life? Not me. I don't know what to do for that. I don't know how to give stitches. So I am a fan of medical doctors who do those things. So just let me preface what I'm about to say by saying that I have nothing against medical doctors at all.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Matter of fact, many medical doctors do on my program. Oh, nice. With that said, I will say this, when it comes to gynecological stuff, digestive stuff, glandular stuff, they're not really good. They're just not. They're just not good. If someone has IBS, which means irritable bowel syndrome, a very bad digestion,
Starting point is 00:36:59 what is the medical doctor gonna do for them? Nothing, nothing, nothing. They're still gonna have terrible digestion. They're gonna take a bunch of medications which are not really gonna fix anything and you have a lot of side effects. They come to me or one of my students with IBS, they won't have it anymore.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Give me a month or two. Well, I want six weeks or whatever. They should have perfect digestion for the most part. When I say for the most part, maybe there's that one in a thousand exception, but for the most part, if someone as IBS or period cramps or, um, asthma or a glandular problem, they will heal under what I'm teaching. How much do you, uh, take note of people's emotions leading to like sickness
Starting point is 00:37:40 and stuff like that? Great question. You guys no wonder you're so successful. You know, I to ask great questions. And here's the answer. And I love, I love to, you know, I get excited to talk about this. It's a two-part answer.
Starting point is 00:37:53 Because let's just say that someone was habitually angry. Let's take worry, better take worry. Let's say someone's mother was really worried all the time. So they were always in like this worry vibration. Their mother was like so worried that when they were a kid, they were just in this worry vibration of their mom. So they kind of took them on, they're always worried and now like they're getting insomnia and they have bad digestion and they, you know, whatever.
Starting point is 00:38:17 So while the worry is playing a big cause of their physical condition. We can approach that in one of two ways. We could either say, okay, look, we know worry caused this. Let's at least address that a little bit on the emotional side and also address the physical remnants in your body. That's a way to do it. So we're take, we're addressing the emotional and the physical, or we could say, listen, I mean, we know it was from worry, but nonetheless, you're still telling me that you can't sleep and you can't digest your food.
Starting point is 00:38:50 I'm going to balance your body so well, you will be able to sleep and you will be able to digest your food. And you can just take it from that. You can give such a powerful physical image of health. It can supersede that emotional cause without even addressing it. And they can have a very happy, well, a very healthy life, hopefully happy too, but a very healthy life. Or we can do both.
Starting point is 00:39:13 There's ways to address that worry and also the physical manifestation caused by it. But I would just say this, Eden asked this exactly, but it is pertinent to say now, the question is what causes disease in the first place? Like, why does someone have period cramps? Why does someone have digestive problems? Why does someone have a weak immune system? Why is someone tired all the time? Why is someone's neck hurt?
Starting point is 00:39:38 Well, traditionally, doctors, medical doctors, and alternative doctors will break it down to three things. Physical stress, like someone crashed on their motorcycle. Emotional stress, like worry, anger, hate, jealousy, whatever. Fear. And then there's chemical stress, like someone who just like eats garbage. They have like burger chain for breakfast, lunch and dinner every day, you know?
Starting point is 00:40:04 So there's that. There's the physical, chemical, and emotional stress, physical, chemical. Now, if you ask some doctors, well, what percent, like is it, you know, what, they might say, well, it's about 33% each, roughly. About 33, but I would say, if anyone wants to know, 99% emotional. Now, don't get me wrong, if someone's like working
Starting point is 00:40:24 on their roof and they working on their roof, and they fall off their roof, they're all jacked up, no, it wasn't emotional they fell off. I understand they fell off their roof. If someone goes to a restaurant and gets food poisoning, no, I understand they got poisoned. Like I'm not putting those in the emotional category,
Starting point is 00:40:37 but mostly, well, let's just say 90% plus, so people don't freak out. 90% plus of what manifests in the body is from the emotions, in my opinion. That's crazy. So you really got to be in tune with your emotions. I would say yes, in tune with them and keep them as balanced as possible. That is nuts.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Cause I would have imagined, cause a lot of there's that nature versus nurture debate genetics. Like a lot of people think they get disease inherited, right? Here's a great man, you know, hard for the course, another great question. So here's the thing. Let's say think they get disease inherited, right? Here's a great man, you know, uh, par for the course, another great question. So here's the thing, let's say a patient came into me, right? And this has happened many times. Dr. Pete, I'm kind of, you know, they're kind of worried.
Starting point is 00:41:13 Your grandfather had this condition. Their dad has this condition. And they're like, man, I mean, it's like, runs in the family. I say this to them. I can't speak for your grandfather and your dad, cause they were not my patients, but you're my patient and we're going to balance every cell in your body doing what I do. And when a body is balanced, it expresses health.
Starting point is 00:41:31 So maybe if your grandfather and father came to me, we balanced their body. They wouldn't have got that condition, but I can assure you when your body's balanced. Well I will make rephrase that I could, I would say, I can tell you that I can tell you that a balanced body will express Health and I intend to balance your body. Mm-hmm Yeah, cuz now you got me thinking like people are just worrying about their father had this disease and that is what is actually Manifesting you got it. Not the actual genetics act crazy exactly because they've identified with that, you know, there's a statistic I don't know where the statistic is or how hard it is to find that, listen to this, most medical doctors die of their specialty.
Starting point is 00:42:10 Whoa. Because they've identified so closely mentally and then eventually gets pushed down in their subconscious like we were talking before, of all the ways that system or part of the body can break down, it does. And by the way, I mean, listen, I don't take any joy in saying what I'm about to say.
Starting point is 00:42:27 I'm not like celebrating it, or I don't have any glee associated with it, but it's true. Go find 10 gastroenterologists. They all have digestive problems. Go find 10 rheumatologists. They all have joint problems. Just add to the list, all these medical doctors who specialize in XYZ have a problem in that system.
Starting point is 00:42:48 You know, might be a couple exceptions. I mean, and I hope they are. I'm not rooting against them. I want them to be healthy, but often they're not. And they have the exact condition that they spend all day treating. Dang, it's ironic, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:03 That's just life, I guess. Well, life, I guess. Well life, unless you can at least become more aware of the, like for example, let's just say, not you, but let's just say someone else kept saying like they had a little problem with their left shoulder and they kept pointing to it. They're like, oh, you know, this is my bad shoulder. My right shoulder is my good shoulder. Dude, every time they say their left shoulders, their bad shoulder.
Starting point is 00:43:25 I know this might sound, I don't know if people understand this, but every time they say my shoulder, my left shoulder is my bad shoulder. The cells that make up that shoulder. What's in a shoulder ligaments, tendons, muscles, fascia, bone, all the cells that make up their shoulder are falling apart as they speak, they're making their shoulder F'ed up. Wow. Now, you know, it's funny,
Starting point is 00:43:46 you know, sometimes when someone has a problem and they think like, well, maybe there's kind of a complex solution to the problem because, you know, if someone offers them a simple thing, they might be like, oh, that's too simple. You know, because they're telling you, like, if someone's wrist hurt, say their wrist was hurting, and then they were like Googling about their wrist hurts
Starting point is 00:44:06 in this place and they're thinking about this. Dude, if they identify some so-called condition on Google and it has six symptoms, but they've only been having two so far, it's like, oh, they have carpal tunnel. They'll get all six within a day or two. Because they're identifying with that stuff. They should be like, this is my good wrist.
Starting point is 00:44:23 This is my good wrist and this is my good wrist, and this is my good wrist. And tell the wrist, you're gonna feel better, you're gonna feel better. It's that simple. Yeah. I see, right, it seems like, it seems childish, but that's how it works. It's easy to do that self-diagnosis on WebMD.
Starting point is 00:44:35 You just read those symptoms. You're like, I have this disease now. Totally, and here's one for you. Just a should, let's do this. Let's say someone had muscle pain. Just someone, like one of your friends, his muscles kind of hurting, so he goes to the doctor and then you see your friends like, what happened? You know, you went to the doctor, I know your muscles been hurting, like what happened? And he says,
Starting point is 00:44:53 oh, the doctor said that he has fibromyalgia. So, and you're like, you don't even know is that, is that like good because he found out what it is or is that bad that he has it? But you're like, okay, And he's like, now he has fibromyalgia. So he starts reading books on fibromyalgia, Googling fibromyalgia. Again, he's only had three symptoms so far, but there's let's say 10 symptoms associated with it. He'll get all 10 within a week, a month.
Starting point is 00:45:15 Now, cause he's identifying with those symptoms and expecting those symptoms. But here's the trip. So then your friend comes into me, you're like, dude, go see Dr. Pied Dybede, he fixed you up. So I sit down like this, and listen how we break this down. Let's say he already has it stuck in his subconscious because he had rapport with that doctor.
Starting point is 00:45:32 You know, the doctor's sitting there with a white coat, his name in scripts, that's scope around his neck, all his diplomas above his head. So he's got some rapport with this guy, and the doctor's like, you have fibromyalgia, it's only gonna get worse and worse whatever he says Then he comes to me I go let me ask you a question Sean told me that when you went to the doctor you went to him because you were having muscle pain, right?
Starting point is 00:45:54 And he's like, yeah, and then the doctor told you you have fibromyalgia and he's like, yeah I'm like dude my alga my oh my oh algia My oh and Latin means muscle. Algae, L-A-L-G-I-A in Latin means pain. So you went to the doctor, you told him in English that you have muscle pain, and then he told you back in Latin that you have muscle pain. What is that? Who cares? And your friend might be like, yeah, who does care?
Starting point is 00:46:23 But then I say, let's go even further. I said to your friend, don't you think people have probably had muscle pain for like thousands of years? You probably say, yeah, I guess. Probably over thousands of years. When did they name it fibromyalgia? Like 40 years ago? Just like a name, who cares?
Starting point is 00:46:38 Like, then I say, look, you have muscle pain and you had muscle pain because your body was unbalanced somehow. Let's balance your body and your muscles will be totally healthy. And by the way, when your muscles are totally healthy, you're not gonna have fibromyalgia anymore. You can't have both.
Starting point is 00:46:51 You can't have totally healthy muscles and fibromyalgia. It's like right now the lights are on in here, but if it was dark, the light, you know, if the lights were off, it'd be off. Like you can't have both. Like either the lights are on or the lights are off. Like you could pick which one you wanna do. Once we achieve perfect muscular health in your body, you can't also have fibromyalgia. You can't also have that. So listen, I'm not saying no one
Starting point is 00:47:14 has fibromyalgia. Maybe someone does, you know, refer them to me, but we can balance your body. So your muscles are totally healthy. And by the way, if someone's like, oh Pete, that's a good speech, but I did it already 500 times to people. People came to me with quote fibromyalgia and we fixed them up totally. That's why these medical diagnosis labels are dangerous, right? One of the most dangerous is,
Starting point is 00:47:34 I shouldn't say one of the most dangerous, one of the ones that's almost like ridiculous is carpal tunnel syndrome. I can just tell you straight up, I have had, I don't know, I can't even count how many people have come to me were diagnosed with carpal tunnel who was supposed to get wrist surgery. And I said, dude, don't get wrist surgery.
Starting point is 00:47:50 We fixed them up totally in like two weeks. Crazy. But they have the carpal means, you know, wrist. It, the whole thing is just utterly nonsensical. Now, by the way, like I said, I forbid someone's appendix burst. I am making fun of any MD Please go to the medical doctor. Let them fix you because if someone came to me with a burst appendix I would not know what to do. I'm always grateful for the mind pneumonia. They saved me totally
Starting point is 00:48:14 So you heard what I said before and I'm saying it again. Thank God for things like that. There's some emergency medicine. Thank God But when it comes to carpal tunnel leave it to me When Gary Brecker came on and he said, diagnosis is a third leading cause of death. I was like, Oh my God, there's one for you. Diagnosis back to Latin. I'm not a Latin expert, but diagnosis, D I diagnosis. D I means to in Latin. Agnosis means to not know, you know, like you've heard of like an agnostic or like,
Starting point is 00:48:42 I don't know if there's God or whatever. So diagnosis means two that don't know. It means two that don't know. Wow. That's crazy. And that's why you go, you go, the doctor gives you a diagnosis. Let me get a second opinion. Well, I don't agree with him or her.
Starting point is 00:48:57 It's always a different opinion. These are opinions, they're guessing. They're called that two that do not know. Yeah, third leading cause of death in America, misdiagnosis. Well, I would add to that on the leading cause of, of death is accurate diagnosis. Because even if it's accurate, who cares? They're still, they're still identifying with the scrubbers.
Starting point is 00:49:17 Why don't you go get a fix? Go to an acupuncturist, go to a chiropractor, go to one of my students and heal. Yeah, I love it. Doctor, where can people find you and learn from you? So I would say this, if anyone is interested, anyone who is a chiropractor, medical doctor, acupuncturist, massage therapist, reiki master, energy healer, anyone who has clients or patients,
Starting point is 00:49:38 they'd like to learn from me. They can go to zonaschoolofhealing.com. They can do my online program. It's the basic course itself is 60 hours. They can watch to zonaschoolofhealing.com. They can do my online program. It's the basic course itself is 60 hours. They can watch five minutes a day or half hour a day, but in a few months, they'll be a master healer. And or on that same website, they can look where it says live seminars.
Starting point is 00:49:56 I teach one every month somewhere in the world and they can come join us for a live seminar. And I'll tell you this, my theme is results because I'll say this in conclusion, anyone can sit in the chair and see whatever they want. And they might be, they might be, um, have a lot of personal magnetism or they might be well-spoken or very eloquent. And they're talking about a certain technique of healing or a
Starting point is 00:50:20 certain philosophy of healing. But guess what trumps all that stuff? Results, results, results. So my theme is if someone has endometriosis, which again is a kind of collagical condition, I'll take care of that. And so all my students, will someone else? I don't know. If someone has IBS, which is again a digestive condition, my students and I will take care of that.
Starting point is 00:50:43 Whoever else is talking about their technique, will they? So, so theories and techniques only go so far, but results trump everything. And I can tell you that the results from the kind of healing knowledge that I'm teaching is unparalleled. I love that. We'll link your stuff below.
Starting point is 00:50:57 Thanks for coming on, doctor. Thank you. Yeah, check them out guys. See you next time.

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