Digital Social Hour - The NEW Body Count Reset Surgery: Is It Real? | Yannis Pappas DSH #560

Episode Date: August 3, 2024

😱 The NEW Body Count Reset Surgery: Is It Real? 😱    Are you ready to dive into one of the most controversial topics of the year? Tune in now to the latest episode of the Digital Social Hour... with Sean Kelly, where we explore the bizarre and groundbreaking concept of the NEW Body Count Reset Surgery! 🎥   In this eye-opening episode, we chat with comedian Yannis Pappas about everything from the wild new surgery that claims to reset your body count using stem cells to hilarious takes on modern-day spirituality and the changing trends in nightlife. 🌟 We also delve into the ins and outs of the comedy world, touching on cancel culture, the evolution of comedy, and the incredible success stories of today's top comedians.    Don't miss out on this packed episode filled with valuable insights and laugh-out-loud moments! Join the conversation and get the inside scoop on whether this crazy surgery is actually real or just a wild rumor. 🤔   Watch now and subscribe for more insider secrets. 📺 Hit that subscribe button and stay tuned for more eye-opening stories on the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! 🚀   #DigitalSocialHour #SeanKelly #Podcast # YannisPappas #BodyCountResetSurgery #Comedy #CancelCulture #StandUpComedy #StemCells #TrendingNow   #BodyCountReset #YannisPappas #StemCellBodyReset #BodyCountSurgery #ResetBodyTrend   CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 00:38 - Yannis Pappas 06:08 - Tacoma, Washington 09:09 - Cancel culture 11:35 - Comedy is a litmus test for freedom 13:36 - Cancel culture is over 15:58 - Trump is racist 19:33 - Trustworthy news 21:38 - Negative news 24:35 - Power slap 25:27 - Growing up in Brooklyn 28:09 - Alcohol and drugs 31:57 - How do comedians make money 32:55 - The Money in Comedy 35:55 - Kyle Kinane 38:00 - Childhood Neglect 40:44 - Where to Find Yannis 41:07 - Thanks for Watching   APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: Jenna@DigitalSocialHour.com   GUEST: Yannis Pappas https://www.instagram.com/yannispappas https://www.yannispappascomedy.com/   SPONSORS: Deposyt Payment Processing: https://www.deposyt.com/seankelly   LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's cool again. Yeah. People go into clubs right now looking like Mormons. Yeah. Full suits. You know, they talk to their parents. Weird. There's a lot of new stuff, man.
Starting point is 00:00:10 I just learned there's a new surgery on your vagina. So you can actually reset your body count now. You can reset your body count? Yeah. By squeezing up the vag? Yeah, stem cells. It tightens it up so you're no longer loose. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:21 Wow. Yeah. How did they do that? Wherever you guys are watching this show i would truly appreciate it if you follow or subscribe it helps a lot with the algorithm it helps us get bigger and better guests and it helps us grow the team truly means a lot thank you guys for supporting and here's the episode all right guys we got yannis papas here today he He's in town. Good to be here. Good to be in Vegas. I'm glad we finally made this work, man. Absolutely, man. You come out here a lot? I don't. Otherwise, I would have been on.
Starting point is 00:00:51 I picked you up a year ago. Yeah, you're so tall. I just put my feet. Oh, that's not your feet. That's the pole. Yeah, that was my shoe. Yeah, what are you, 6'5"? 6'6", man. It's a tall drink of water, dude. You were just talking. You played some hoops back in the day. I did play some hoops, too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:03 I love it. People always say that, too. They say that I'm taller than they think i must have a small presence just on your podcast i just i don't know yeah is it your face you think probably my big mouth there's people with a big mouth usually is shorter right so i'm always yapping and people he must be a small guy but yeah i'm a six footer dude that's true because people don't really yap when they're six eight no they're just quiet and then they just you know they'll be up if you talk yeah they just you walk around with the confidence because you're just looking down at the world absolutely yeah it's good to be six six yeah you won't live as long though you don't see a lot of old six six six people they've done studies on
Starting point is 00:01:36 this i was really upset when i looked at the study yeah because every inch past 5 10 as a guy you lose on average a year oh no so i've lost eight years so i'm gonna stop wearing these air max because i'm 511 and three quarters so i'm gonna stop wearing that air max because the air max maybe fifth one okay yeah so you lost a couple years but uh yeah i'm gonna gain back by going flat so i'm gonna wear sandals from now on yeah yeah i'm gonna go barefoot people are walking around barefoot right now they they do yeah because they're on fentanyl and they're on the street yeah yeah well i do it for grounding yeah, there's people on the street doing it too. You're a spiritual guy.
Starting point is 00:02:07 I am. Yeah. Recently. Yeah. What happens? Is it just stress from business? I'd say- We're doing 800 podcasts a day.
Starting point is 00:02:14 Yeah, we did 600 in a year. Wow. Yeah. I'd say it's a mixture of everything you just said. Yeah, you and Rogan are doing a lot of podcasts. Well, he does a lot and they're long. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:02:24 Cat Williams just came on. It was three hours. Dude, the first time I met him, I'm like, we're best friends now, right? doing a lot of podcasts well he does a lot and they're long yeah i don't know how he cat williams just came on it was three hours dude first time i met him i'm like we're best friends now right because i've never spoken to someone that intimately for that long it's like the first one was four hours and i'm like are we married now because it's just yeah it's a long time yeah was that the first day you met him that was the first day i met well no yeah the first day i met him was that yeah wow yeah you have a four-hour conversation the first day you meet him. It's not easy. You're in there.
Starting point is 00:02:48 And at one point, I got a little lightheaded. And I was like, am I going to drop? I mean, it's almost like an endeavor. I think he pushes it further. He wants to do it. He's testing. He's seeing how long he can talk for. Were you smoking?
Starting point is 00:03:01 I wasn't smoking. But it was in his old studio that kind of looked like a it was ironic because when he first moved from california to austin his california studio looked really texas yeah and then his austin studio that first one looked like a gay nightclub or something he got some heat for that it looked like a sushi restaurant or something he probably had to change it right he did change it he went back and it looks more texas now it's wood up you know everything smells like barbecue but um that first one had no went back and it looks more Texas now. It's wood up. You know, everything smells like barbecue. But that first one had no like ventilation. It was like a tube.
Starting point is 00:03:30 You felt like you were in like an alien craft. So there was zero ventilation there. We were smoking cigars. So at one point, I was just like, I almost felt like I had a similar experience when I was an altar boy in the Greek Orthodox Church. And they do that incense everywhere. And altar boys would pass out during church because there's just no ventilation. So at one point I was like getting wheezy and I had just met him and I was like, do I tell him? Do I say, hey man, we need to stop? But I just muscled through it.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Yeah. Those cigar lounges, man. I'd be walking out of there literally hanging on the walls. Yeah. There's no oxygen. You get dizzy, man. Greek Orthodox Church. What goes down there?
Starting point is 00:04:02 No, no. I don't. We don't. There's not a lot of banging kits. That's good. Catholics have a monopoly on that. no. I don't. We don't. There's not a lot of banging of kids. That's good. Catholics have a monopoly on that. Yeah. They're really the Amazon of that.
Starting point is 00:04:10 They've really taken over. Priests can marry, which I think is important. Okay. So there's not a lot of like sexual scandals. But there's, you know, your regular run of the mill money scandals, priest stealing stuff. But it's an old Christian religion. I mean, I'm not like practicing. I don't go a lot.
Starting point is 00:04:28 I was an altar boy when I was little. My parents cried. But now Christianity is getting hot. It is. It's getting hot right now. I think your generation, what are you, Gen Z? I don't even know. I'm 27, whatever that is.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Gen Z, yeah. It's getting hot again, dude. I mean, you see the Super Bowl? It was like Jesus put a lot of money up for commercials i mean there's like 10 jesus commercials you're not wrong man yeah it's getting hot it's getting cool right now yeah it wasn't cool in high school i was atheist yeah no you got to go full-blown born again christian conservative that's what's at the clubs right now yeah people are resetting their body stop paying those high retail prices for other optics that underperform
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Starting point is 00:06:01 could get in your dick too yeah could you just if you're a girl and you had a high body count can you just do like a hundred chinese guys in a row and that'll tighten it back up oh chinese guys yeah they do say they're smaller right i mean i'm half chinese oh so you are you big what's the other half uh irish irish kid something well i think it offsetted it because i'm above average because they've done studies on penis length yeah i think the average is 5.1 in America. I will say I'm above that. So I think it offset it to Asian. Okay, that's good.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Is that your mom or your dad? My dad was Irish. Nice. He was 6'5". We went to Ireland though. I would not recommend it. Yeah, because you, why not? Rains every day.
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Starting point is 00:06:59 But I heard it's a beautiful place. It is beautiful if it's not raining, but it's raining all day. Yeah, that's tough. It's like Seattle and Portland. I'm just not a fan. i think the worst place i've been is tacoma wow yeah i hated tacoma right yeah that's the home of uh that's the home of what's his name the serial killer serial ted bundy i went and saw his house so that makes sense now it kind of makes sense yeah like who else has come out of tacoma it's really just he's like the all-star from there there's no other like big names coming out of Tacoma.
Starting point is 00:07:26 The architecture looks like Russian. It's like Eastern European, boxy. It's rainy. Yeah, you just, you want to, the weather's like nuclear fallout. It's just coated with clouds. It's brutal. If you're inside all day, you're going to go crazy. You saw the COVID.
Starting point is 00:07:43 That's why people are like there. You'll see like a 60, 70-year-old woman with purple hair. And I think they do that just to brighten up their existence so they can look at each other and see some bright colors because otherwise it's just, yeah, chemically, I think it messes with you. Sure. What's your first reaction when you see someone with dyed hair like that? I say they're definitely against the war in Israel. I say they're the part-time protestant. Yeah. And there's a good chance they're from the Pacific Northwest.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Yeah. It's hard to take people serious. I don't know what it is about it. It's just like, dude, you dyed your hair pink. Like, what are we going to talk about? You know what I mean? Oh, they got a lot to talk about. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:20 You definitely, look, there's an old expression. You can't judge a book by its cover, but you can definitely judge a conversation by its haircut so if you see pink hair someone's about to give you an earful about uh palestine or whatever the banks or you just you're gonna get an earful about something i stayed out of that war because i feel like no matter what side you publicly supported you're gonna get shit on yeah and there's nothing you can do i mean this guy there's a guy who keeps dming me and i'm an idiot like i open my dms i really shouldn't i keep opening this dm from this guy and he just keeps sending me like pictures and and and stories about like what's going on in palestine and i'm like and he's like your country's the kkk all this i'm like
Starting point is 00:09:01 god what do you want me to do about it what are you why you're obviously not well if you're invested emotionally in something like this that is beyond our what do you want me you want me to call benjamin natalia and tell him to chill do you want me to call celebrities and be like make another stop it video i mean it doesn't i mean it's like that's the funny thing about those stop it videos in hollywood like you get like six actors together and you're like stop and you're like all right that's gonna go that really did it mark ruffalo put out a video so israel's gonna change its um its military tactics yeah i mean it's like what do you want us to do you know i just go on podcasts i tell jokes and i'm trying to live lit i just want to be lit yeah let me be lit you're pretty open about what you talk about though i will I will say that. I am. People, yeah, my podcast, The Honest Papazour, I try to make fun of everybody. I try to, you know, and that's not a great thing in this climate.
Starting point is 00:09:54 I think people want you to go hard on one side or the other so they can kind of rah-rah you. But I just get too much pleasure in ripping everybody apart and having fun no matter what their political affiliation. I like that, though, because a lot of people in your spot are too scared to pick a side. And they're like robots. Like I saw The Rock on Joe Rogan. Yeah. He had no emotion. I mean, he was so scared of getting canceled that the whole interview.
Starting point is 00:10:20 Yeah. Well, he's got, I mean, I can understand it. He's got so many sponsors. He's The Rock. He does movies. He's like a politician. At this point. Yeah. yeah well he's got i mean i would i can understand it he's got so many sponsors he's the rock he does movies he's like a politician at this point yeah there's like eight-year-olds that love him there's six-year-olds that love him i mean if there's a six-year-old tuning into my show then their parents are like dead in the living room fed and all they're just not watching the kid yeah it's an irresponsible thing so i understand like but that's got to really weigh on you when you can't say anything that's ever on your mind and you constantly got to check you know uh with your
Starting point is 00:10:49 pr team i mean i've had sports shows in the past athletes are they can't say anything right so like i don't even know why they try sports comedy could be like a very big barstool does it great you know they do it the best but they don't really you never really see them messing with athletes until the athletes are like retired because when the athletes are playing for the you know dana and the ufc is different those guys just don't go up there and yell fag just like take free speech um but other leagues are just way i mean baseball basketball you can't say anything. I agree. Because I've had on a couple NBA guys.
Starting point is 00:11:30 I literally see them thinking about what they can and can't say when I ask a question. Yeah. They're like, well, Adidas. They just see – I can't say that because Adidas can't say that because of Subway. They just have so many sponsors. So I get it. It's not a fun way to be a comedian for sure because our job is to say the most irresponsible things i actually think that comedy is a great litmus test um for where the country's at because if the comedy scene is very healthy which it is right now because of the internet which is great um i think
Starting point is 00:12:00 it means that freedom is in a good place because I think it's really the sole indicator that your society is free is like comedians saying whatever. I mean, I think that's the job of comedy is like to say irresponsible things, to keep everyone in check, to make sure that you're allowed to say anything. Right. That is a good gauge. Yeah, it's a good gauge. It really is. And there were periods during your career where you couldn't say whatever you wanted, right? That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:12:27 It was like, you know, I think that era has come to an end, like that cancel culture era has come to an end because people just got tired of it. They kind of saw through it. Like, oh, this guy said something. All right. There's a million people that said things. They tried to cancel too many people. But that era, to be honest with you, was really only online. And my analysis of it was it's people making content for themselves.
Starting point is 00:12:52 So canceled content is content. You're a content creator. Everyone's making content. So if you're taking someone down, that's your content. You're doing it for the same reasons we're all doing it. It's ironic. To get viewers, to make some noise, to build your brand, to self-aggrandize. So there's people out there who are content creators canceling people.
Starting point is 00:13:17 Dude, I see it on my YouTube every day. They go after the comedians on YouTube. Yeah. They want to be heard. Everybody wants to be heard. But live, you don't feel it at all. And so that's how I knew it wasn't really like a real thing.
Starting point is 00:13:28 Because like, you go do a live show, you say anything, nobody cares. It's like everyone understands that the intent of what you're doing is to try to make people laugh.
Starting point is 00:13:38 So like, if you, I mean, nobody, who was funny in class when they were saying the right thing? That's not funny. Saying the right, like, you shouldn't be racist. saying the right thing that's not funny saying the right like you shouldn't be racist it's not it's not funny but he's saying you should be
Starting point is 00:13:50 racist and here's why with a certain intonation a certain cadence and in a certain context can be funny right you know so um they were really that era was trying to define comedy out of existence yeah um when you know and it didn't work didn't work they thought it didn't work it didn't work i mean look at shane i mean shane gillis now oh yeah bigger than ever he just he got canceled right and then he came back in a big way i mean it was like you know front page news on on all the major mainstream media outlets he said yeah on a you know when you he was on a pocket was probably one of a million things he said but uh it was um he was talking about
Starting point is 00:14:32 chinatown back in the day and how like a real estate person would talk back then and he said he said the word uh what this podcast i can say right yeah you're chinese you're okay yeah he said change okay right but he was saying it through the voice of the character of someone back in the day but they just clipped out chink and then there was a chinese guy that just got hired uh bo and yang on snl so he was like i don't feel comfortable i don't feel safe so it just got all this uh attention that's the problem with the clips because they can clip out anything from any show. When you take comedy out of its context, it dies. It's like
Starting point is 00:15:10 trying to take a fish out of water. It's going to die. The words that are said can only be understood in the context of a comedy club, a comedian's intent, a comedian's clip.
Starting point is 00:15:27 When you just take it out, it just looks like a speech you know you if you type it down it's not in the context of comedy now it's in the context of your article in your intention and your intention is to take these words and say hey these words are bad in this other context i'm i'm gonna make them be this context when they weren't they were in the context was comedic plus yeah plus there's words 10 20 years ago that you said on your shows that are looked down on now yeah like the r word f word whatever yeah and that's just a stupid thing now because now people you know i have a special needs brother and even i'm saying special needs but now people take special needs and they use it as a pejorative so it's it'll and now it's funny because like person of color is now
Starting point is 00:16:03 back but person of color was bad like 10 years ago. You're like, don't call me color person. I'm not a person. And now you'd be like, now that that's what you want to say. So it's like, it's just words. I mean, it's really, it's really the intent of the word that people and the context of the word that people should pay attention to. I mean, we're not children. We're adults.
Starting point is 00:16:22 People from marginalized groups know when someone's racist and they know when someone's not. And it's not just a word. It's like, you can tell. They try to hit Trump with a lot, even with NATO. They take them out of context with Russia. And then if you go research, people are like, oh, he's in bed with Russia. And then you go research all the sanctions. He sanctioned Russia more than Obama. I mean, I think like 52 actions against Russia. He was hard on Russia. So when Putin says he prefers Biden, he may meet it. And you can actually even look at it as an inch, like a positive strategy with Putin, right. To like talk friendly, like the rhetoric is kind of not friendly, but like semi, semi-friendly, semi-absequious, like, Hey, I respect him for
Starting point is 00:17:23 this or whatever he says. But then, you know, carries a big stick because you look at the actual policies and the facts, the objective reality of what his actions were as president. He was hard on Russia. Like I said, he was harder. That's a fact. I mean, just by his policy actions, he was hard on Russia. So it's like, does that old expression I think it was Harry Truman like talks awfully or f uh or Teddy Roosevelt talks awfully carry a big stick um so I mean maybe in some ways you could argue that that's more effective than just the rhetoric the constant rhetoric of uh Russia's bad it's like you know you're dealing with someone who on the other side, our adversary, Putin, who's, you know, he's a former KGB officer.
Starting point is 00:18:11 He's slick. He loves using subterfuge and intelligence and, you know, fake articles and all that stuff. So maybe being a little tricky with him back is the way to go, you know. So it's interesting. Yeah, they painted a picture of Trump as very pro-Russia. I know there were a couple of people in his campaign that were a little irresponsible with talking to them and stuff, but he himself, his actions speak for themselves. They don't make the front line.
Starting point is 00:18:41 They don't make those front headlines. They don't. When you do good things, they'll never the, those front headlines, you know. They don't. When you do good things, they'll never put that on front page. No, it's salacious. It doesn't get as many views. No, it's a salacious world we live in now, you know. I think when the media, when the internet happened and the media didn't like fully adapt, they were a little behind it. And they started giving articles away for free that was sort of the beginning of the end of um trusting the media
Starting point is 00:19:05 because they out of necessity became salacious because they became content creators themselves trying to chase views and so their headlines became increasingly editorialized because it just it gets you to click more yeah and they're dependent on ads where they used to be dependent on subscriptions so now it's just like you gotta click so you're like trump's all right and you're like i gotta click on that you know is that why they started charging again that's awesome they're trying yeah they're trying but yeah i mean every time i go to a uh an outlet you know my my podcast is you know i review the news every week and have fun and i go to an article and it says click here to subscribe i just click off and go to another article that's free.
Starting point is 00:19:46 Yeah, I just go somewhere that's free and read it. So if they would have started with subscription when the internet's – like maybe people would have got used to that. But now people got used to free articles. So it's like trying to make your podcast subscription only. Like people are just going to go, oh, I'm going to go watch the free one. It's a little – Yeah, they just didn didn't adapt well which outlets do you trust right now it's hard to say yeah it's hard ground news is great and i use ground news and they always love
Starting point is 00:20:15 when i give them a shout out they should pay me they should yeah but ground news they're an independent company and they're great because they rate the articles based on their um what they deem to be their uh sway so if they feel like it's more right they'll they'll tell you it's more right this one's more left if one's center they'll they'll deem it center so you go in reading it knowing that this outlet has this type of bent you know they they they lean left lean right fully right and they have red bars and blue bars and so if one's fully right it's like the red bars yeah yeah if it's fully blue it's like that so damn i like that i like that i stopped listening to the news reading the news i think there's a lot of people who are disillusioned with the news you know it's um
Starting point is 00:21:02 yeah i think they get caught a lot in in things that aren't true you know it's just so negative it literally puts you in a bad mood it puts you in a bad mood and i think it's the car crash effect you know it's um why is there traffic a lot of times it's because someone's pulled over on the side of the road and people will need to see it like there's something our brain, something evolutionary that's in our brain that makes us pay attention to the negative more than the positive. You know, it's just it's so much easier to have a negative thought than a positive one. And it maybe it probably has something to do with like not wanting to be ostracized from the tribe. You know, we've only been, you know, the Industrial Revolution was like what 150 not even 200 years ago before that we were you know we were really dependent on what other people thought about us and if they
Starting point is 00:21:51 approved of us so there's something in our brain that makes us just look at car crashes so the news just becomes a car crash for clicks yeah and so it's always negative and and you know there's that loophole in our brain where we just look at it it's awesome survival instinct and so it's always negative and and you know there's that loophole in our brain where we just look at it it's awesome survival instinct almost right it's almost like a survival instinct yeah yeah that's a good way to put it and so the news kind of plays on that and i don't know if they do it consciously i know i worked i had a show on an old network called fusion which was um it was an interesting thing to look back on because it was owned by abc news which was owned by disney so essentially disney owned it and it was owned by ABC News which was owned by Disney so essentially Disney owned it and it was owned by
Starting point is 00:22:28 Univision it was a joint venture with Univision and Disney and they built this massive studio in Miami a hundred million dollars it's in Doral and they spent tons of money on trying to create a new network for Millennials for younger people and it didn't work. It died so fast. And this was 2013. And it died because the switch had already happened. People had phones, they had just as much power, if not more than people with all this money behind them and production and everything. And it just died. But when I was working there, it was a whole bunch of old school ABC News producers working there.
Starting point is 00:23:05 I remember one of the mission statements for our show was like, I remember, and I always remember this. One of the producers was like, let's pick a fight. Like, pick a fight. And I was like, oh, that's how this works. Like, pick a fight because people love drama. And so, you know, everyone is aware of how to get a bigger audience and a lot of times it's it's not it's not coward it's it can be very manipulative and and um we play right yeah just like let's let's start a fight let's pick a fight because people love drama you see it in rap all
Starting point is 00:23:40 the time people you know pay attention to soap opera of who's beefing and whatnot. And people just enjoy it. Some of those beefs are fake. Yeah, I think a lot of them are fake. Yeah. I mean, I think that, you know, you look at what sells in boxing. I think that's why the UFC got very popular. And I think in a lot of ways, you serve boxing.
Starting point is 00:24:00 I mean, of course, the big stars in boxing still draw, but not the other guys. You know, it's got to be Canelo. Whereas the UFC, there's, there's none of that politics. There's not a hundred belts. There's not, it's just like, we're selling the card. Like we're selling the card. The fights are real. The guys who need to fight each other will fight each other. They're not, there's no promoters. There's one, it kind of works better as a dictatorship. Yeah. You know,
Starting point is 00:24:24 like Dana just goes, these are the two best guys. They're fighting now. And like they fight or don't fight or you leave. And so I think that's why it's gained so much popularity. Yeah, it's crushed it. Yeah. Whereas in boxing, it needs to be this bad guy, good guy, all this talk. I mean, it helps in the UFC, you know, to have a good buildup.
Starting point is 00:24:45 But people have watched the card more than they're tuning in to a specific fight and the cards are every week and it's it's great i love it i do it's just amazing i couldn't name five boxes right now yeah it's it's tough it's really i don't think i think most people could help right so yeah i think most people just go canelo right and then they then they're just, you know, the casual fan. Yeah. What do you think about the power slap stuff? Well, I think you should call it a more honest name. I think you should just call it practice hostage hitting.
Starting point is 00:25:21 I mean, yeah, I don't get it. I don't get it. I'm amused by how much he just doesn't care and keeps pushing. He just keeps throwing it up on his gram and like all the contents. You're just like, what is this? This is not a sport. But yeah, I think it's stupid. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:38 I say that with respect because I love the UFC. I love UFC. I love Dana, but I wouldn't do power slap ever. No, it's just ridiculous. Yeah, it's not a sport. I mean, what is it? It's hostage hitting. It's a guy with his hand behind his back
Starting point is 00:25:49 and you're going like, tell me where the enemy lines are. A guy smacks him and either passes out or he doesn't. It's a little too brutal. You get in any fights growing up in the streets of Brooklyn? Yeah, it was rough growing up in that era.
Starting point is 00:26:03 I mean, I grew up in kind of a nicer area, but the circumference of what was nice was much smaller. I grew up in Park Slope, Brooklyn, and it was just a bad time in New York. It was just an awful era. I grew up in the 80s. Was the mob still running it though? The mob was still running it. The mob was still running it. Ironically, that's not what you're really worried you worried about like kids there was just packs of kids everywhere if you go back and look at the news from the 80s there's all these headlines about wilding kids they usually calling them wilding kids and yeah there was just gangs and kids and it was very typical to get um robbed and beat up and chased on Halloween by 40 kids. Yeah. Yeah, it was not fun. Gentrification was a good thing. Let me tell you something.
Starting point is 00:26:51 If you see lesbians moving into a bad neighborhood, buy in that neighborhood. I know you're a business guy because lesbians are the marines of gentrification. They're the first ones in. When you see them go in, they're tough. They start a softball game. They open a bar. they plant a flag that means the next is coming is like the young kids from the suburbs who are dreaming they want to move there to become like a whatever an artist
Starting point is 00:27:14 that can be everyone wants to be a comedian now and then once the gays come in they come in and they do the interior design and they are the navy so the ground troops are the young kids from the suburbs the marines the lesbians and then when the navy's in there it's full-blown a million dollar properties yeah once the gays are in forget it okay guys yeah yeah that's the process of gentrification wow so that's what happened in brooklyn that's what happened in brooklyn because now the houses are like a million i do a million is low i mean in the neighborhood i grew up my father bought that house um it used to be like a very irish neighborhood working class like they still have a saint patty's day parade there before the main saint daddy's uh st patty's day parade he bought that house from a fam a family called murphy for 28 000 wow in 1959 i believe
Starting point is 00:28:04 they still had like a wood stove that was heating the house or whatever. Damn. So, and then now those properties are worth like four or five million. Holy shit. Is your dad still there? No, no. He's gone, but yeah. Wow. So you guys sold it eventually? We sold it, yeah. We sold it. We got a nice little penny for it. And then you went to LA.
Starting point is 00:28:20 And then, no, I still live in New York. Oh, in New York? Yeah, I'm still in New York. I live in upstate New York now, but I still have an apartment in Brooklyn, in Bay Ridge, Bay Ridge, Brooklyn. So you got your space upstate. I got my space upstate. I live in horse country. I got a wife, two kids now.
Starting point is 00:28:36 So I'm living a different life. Yeah, it's a different life. And we're partying. Were you a big partier, John? No, but drinking was big in comedy. Drinking was big when I was coming up. And we were talkingying. Were you a big partier, John? No, but drinking was big in comedy. Drinking was big when I was coming up. And we were talking before the podcast started. People were using drugs, too.
Starting point is 00:28:50 I didn't. But you can't now. Like, you just can't. There's fentanyl in everything. You got to walk around with a full team of scientists to test everything because you just never know what's in it. I mean, people are just dropping dead, like flies from fentanyl. Teenagers. It's all
Starting point is 00:29:05 over the place yeah would you drink before your show or after i would drink before my show when i was young and inexperienced and nervous and um that was just bad i just realized it was bad yeah like it's it's like with drugs man you feel like you know when you're on coke and you're like i'm the most interesting man in the world then you talk to your friends who weren't on coke and you're like you were the most annoying person last night. It's just not real. Same thing with alcohol. It's just not real.
Starting point is 00:29:31 You're just numb. You're numbing yourself. You're numbing your nerves. And that's bad in comedy. You want the nerves. You want to feel the pressure because that makes you sharp. You're about to go out there and do something that carries high consequences. It hurts your feelings when you don't do well.
Starting point is 00:29:47 There's a reason why people's biggest fear above dying is public speaking. It goes back to that thing we were talking about, that survival instinct or whatever. It's in us. It was mine for like 24 years. Public speaking. My biggest fear, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:00 Yeah. And it's weird because it's not dangerous. It's not. It's just like, you're so vulnerable, I think. You're so vulnerable. And I think it's just something in our brain. I think it's weird because it's not dangerous it's not it's just like you're so vulnerable i think you're so vulnerable and there's i think it's just something in our brain i think it's beyond even our comprehension it's an instinct i think it's like don't speak out against the tribe you know don't be so don't go up there solo blend in you know survive it's something like deep in us it's like almost uh intrinsic to our nature i can see that yeah back in your day you couldn't
Starting point is 00:30:24 get instant feedback with social media you had to go to the show see that yeah back in your day you couldn't get instant feedback with social media you had to go to the show and perform yeah so it's a lot more like in person it's important you're getting rejected in real time and when you're a comedian you're getting rejected um every you know you gotta every eight seconds you're you're up again and like it's pretty much like eight so you got you don't have a lot of time you need to laugh so um i mean your generation you guys are all psychopaths and it's great. You don't care anymore. I mean, you see the comedians now in their 20s.
Starting point is 00:30:50 They just go up there. And my generation would be like, this guy's bombing. But they're just like, the show went great, didn't it? And they're like, because they're just going to take one clip and throw it out. They don't give a shit. Yeah, they don't give a shit about the hour show. Yeah. So, yeah, I meet a lot of people your age,
Starting point is 00:31:08 and I'm just taken aback by the confidence. And it's a good thing. I think a lot of it is social media too. It's like any question you need answered, not just social media, I mean the internet, and who knows what it'll be with AI, but like any question you have, you can get it answered. Like us, it was like we didn't know
Starting point is 00:31:25 for you know we i thought i thought jamie lee curtis was a mafrodite for my whole life it was just a rumor that spread around so you couldn't go to like chat gbt or google look it up you couldn't look it up so you're like you didn't know anything if you wanted to pursue something you had to do it for years and years and years you couldn't go watch all these clips of comedians and just go i'm gonna take that i'm gonna get you know study that take that and i barely even knew stand-up comedy was a field i always thought like robin williams and and uh eddie murphy and i thought they were actors and like we're doing shows because they were actors i didn't know there was clubs and there was no internet yeah you know it like, you had to go look that up in the library, under the Mish film, whatever it's called.
Starting point is 00:32:09 That's a lot quicker to learn. Now you can just go on Matt Rife's Instagram, study how he does it and just implement it right away. Exactly. It's just kind of like, that's what everyone's doing. And yeah, it's just, everything's a lot easier. There's just access to everything, which is ironic that people have become in a lot of ways very naive which is interesting here's on the business side of things
Starting point is 00:32:30 is the majority of the money made of all your tour the money is made touring and podcasts now i mean there's guys making money now they're like what movie stars used to make it's insane what they make yeah and it's not a lot of guys um you know you have to have a big pod yeah but the ones that are big the money is insane when you tell a comic from the previous era because i'm i'm in between eras so like my era was like like i said to you 2012 13 when i had that show at fusion it was it was already changed and now it's full fruition but you talk to a guy from the old era that's like you have to have a sitcom you got it what the guy's not on tv and you tell him what this guy's making it's almost like probably what the native americans thought when they saw the conquistador ships
Starting point is 00:33:13 like they just couldn't fathom they got they must be gods they're wearing gold like you just couldn't you can't fathom it like the money's insane it's like matt damon it's like the money is crazy and these are people that aren't on tv you've never heard of i mean for example andrew schultz has never done a stand-up set on television what he's never done a stand-up special or even a late night set or anything on television he never did a comedy central half hour he never did anything from the traditional route that is now extinct and he's selling out madison square garden overnight you know yeah he sold out two madison square gardens um like in a day how many people fit in there that's like 15 to 17 or 18 000 they're each
Starting point is 00:33:58 paying probably what like 50 each so who knows yeah yeah they're pretty yeah i mean it's it's the money's insane that's so crazy and i know theodon's making a lot off this show dude you're talking about millions and millions and millions of millions of matt rife's deal with live nation that's sold out like what in a week or something like world tour crazy like 20 million 30 million dollar you know and that's just the tour money it's a new era it's cool to see you embrace it though i feel like a lot of older guys would be kind of pissed off i think it's a positive thing. I think it's net positive. There's a lot more opportunity.
Starting point is 00:34:30 And complaining about it is just stupid. If you don't like what another guy is doing, that has nothing to do with you. You're just complaining because you're not doing it and you don't have it. Anyone can build a following. Nobody is generally famous anymore. My buddy Nate Bargatze is doing arenas now.
Starting point is 00:34:51 He could walk down the street. He's doing arenas, like an arena tour. He could walk around and I bet you one out of five people or one out of ten would know who he is. Whereas Brad Pitt can't walk around like that because that era was like,
Starting point is 00:35:06 we all watched all the same movies. Now people are watching what they're interested in, what things are, everybody has a niche following. So you can build a niche following. So sitting around and complaining about, you know, Matt Rife or whatever. First of all, Matt Rife's been great for comedy because he's gotten a lot of people into comedy
Starting point is 00:35:22 that weren't into comedy. So that's great. Then you look at it positively positively that's great for all comedians because there's just more people i mean comedy is the biggest it's ever been this is the biggest comedy boom in the history of man wow it's there's never oh dude there is never been an era where you've had this many people selling this many tickets doing this many theater, doing this many theater tours, doing this many arena tours. They're the new rock stars. I mean, it's nobody's selling like comedians right now. It's massive. It's massive. And so it's been good for comedy in general, but a person I like to talk about, who's a good example of what you're saying is Jessica Kirsten. She's got a, she's been around
Starting point is 00:36:02 forever. Everyone always said she needed more you know she deserved more she started a youtube channel like in a year it got up to a million followers and you know she's not young and she found her audience and her audience found her and now she's killing it so it's like if anyone's bitter about it it's because they're just not doing it because if you are good eventually you'll find your audience and your audience will find you yeah what do you think of cal williams blowing on that cal williams is crazy he's crazy dude um he's funny and he's he's a throwback he's a comedian who's not fully stable oh yeah he's just not i don't think everything he's saying is true
Starting point is 00:36:41 i'm just being honest but he's one of the most hilarious guys out there. So I love it. I tune into it. I think some of the things he's saying are probably true. Some of them aren't. I think some of them he probably is guessing about. He's entertaining. I think he's drawing a lot of conclusions that a lot of people with schizophrenia sometimes draw. But he's an incredible comedian.
Starting point is 00:37:08 His special that won, it was on HBO or something. It was one of the best specials ever. The one that had that Michael Jackson joke on it. He's just an incredibly funny guy. So you don't believe him reading a thousand books a year? No, I don't believe that. People like nuts over and over. Is that what you said? Yeah, I don't believe him reading a thousand books a year? No, I don't believe that. People went nuts over it all. Is that what you said?
Starting point is 00:37:28 Yeah, I don't believe it. I think there's a lot of hyperbole there. And it's fine. I think he's an entertainer. I think he's an entertainer. The guys who are really smart, you never hear about them. You never hear. They don't have the entertainer chip in their brain where they want attention.
Starting point is 00:37:49 That emotional aspect, I think, is tough for the super smart guys. Exactly. That's why Elon kills it because he somehow has both. Yeah. But that's so rare. And he does it very awkwardly. It is awkward, yeah. You could tell he's not responding to the social cues perfectly because his brain is just working and he's just smarter.
Starting point is 00:38:08 And it is what it is. People's brains are different. And people who want attention like me, there's something wrong with us. Like, don't believe what I say. I'm doing it for attention. I mean, the primary motivation is I obviously lacked some attention as a kid and I'm doing this for attention. Yeah. And I just happen to have charisma or whatever it is and make people laugh but i mean yeah don't make comedians your soothsayers
Starting point is 00:38:30 i mean just yeah we're not yeah we're getting deep there but i've honestly talked to a few comedians now they all have some troubles i don't know if that's related or yeah yes it is related i think i think it is yeah i think it's um yeah I think it's directly related. I think the good ones too, especially. Because you want to fit in. So you kind of- You want attention. You want to fit in. You're trying to get love somewhere that your parents didn't give.
Starting point is 00:38:53 I think childhood neglect. I mean, you wouldn't think it's true, but the more they study this stuff and the leaps and bounds they are making in the mental health field is incredible just because of the neuroscience that they can look at the brain now. And they're understanding so much. And trauma is becoming more and more known as one of the biggest factors in mental health. And a lot of people aren't aware of their trauma because the brain protects you from it. So you block it out. You rationalize it.
Starting point is 00:39:23 And trauma is, i think ironically often neglect and i say ironically because people think when they think trauma they think oh you were beat you know you were beaten up or abused or you know sexual stuff but i think in a weird way neglect can sometimes be worse because you're not being paid attention to and we're a social species. And those first couple of years, those first five years when the brain is forming, you need it like water and food. And so if you're neglected by your parents, I think that can traumatize you as much and sometimes more than actually being abused because abuse, you're actually getting some attention. So although it's bad, you're actually getting some attention so although it's bad you know you're getting attention to it a lot of people who abuse you'll see will continue to seek out those bad
Starting point is 00:40:10 patterns right as to them that's that's attention so that's bad for a different reason but you know yeah toxic relationships you see the girl just keeps attracting them exactly yeah but neglect is i think overlooked and it's something that makes you feel like you know a pussy when you bring up my parents in pain she was like yeah that's bad dude that's bad people babies need love happened to me too to be honest there's gotta be a reason why you're talking to strangers yeah i was an only child come home no one's home and yeah i was pretty lonely hard to miss you're six six so your parents were really do you show a lot of that wasn't just like irish people don't talk because they bury their trauma and yeah my chinese are just like
Starting point is 00:40:50 tiger mom and everything yeah i think i got both ends right my dad was an alcoholic he was irish so he wasn't there and then my mom was just strict yeah makes sense yeah yeah i got both yeah no the the irish just they pour liquor on they push it down they push it away they go case of 30 every day yeah they push it down crazy yeah they it way. Case of 30 every day. Yeah, they push it down. Crazy, man. Yeah, they push it down to drama. Yeah. Who knows what happened?
Starting point is 00:41:09 Who knows, man. We'll do it. I can see how Roman talked to you for four hours, man. Yeah, yeah. We're 40 minutes in. Oh, we're 40 minutes in already. Yeah. Yeah, it was fun.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Crazy, man. Thanks, man. Anything you want to promote us with? Yeah, man. Check out my podcast, please. Giannis Pappas Hour. And catch me on the road live. I'm touring everywhere.
Starting point is 00:41:27 Go to GiannisPappas hour and catch me on the road live. I'm touring everywhere. Go to Giannis Pappas comedy.com. You can catch me coming up in Cleveland, Toronto, Tulsa, Kansas city. I'm probably forgetting something, but just go to my website and get the tour dates. Yeah.
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