Digital Social Hour - The Rise of European Hoops: Is Team USA in Trouble? | Nick Dais Part 2 DSH #871

Episode Date: November 8, 2024

Are European hoops on the rise, and is Team USA in trouble? 🏀 Join Sean Kelly on the Digital Social Hour Podcast as he dives deep with Nick into the evolving landscape of basketball and soccer. From Luka's rise in Europe to Team USA's challenges, this episode is packed with valuable insights and engaging discussions. Don't miss out on this must-watch conversation! Tune in now and explore Nick's unique take on sports media shifts and the future of international play. Watch now and subscribe for more insider secrets. 📺 Hit that subscribe button and stay tuned for more eye-opening stories on the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! 🚀 #nbatoday #sportspicks #sportsbetting #sportsbettingeducation #caitlinclark CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 02:30 - USA Basketball Highlights 06:12 - Betting Trends This Year 15:52 - Attending a WNBA Game 17:40 - USA Women's Basketball Team Loss 18:33 - USWNT Performance Analysis 20:27 - Saquon Barkley & Giants Predictions 23:08 - RJ Barrett & Jalen Brunson Insights 34:26 - Stephen A. Smith Leaving ESPN 36:26 - Future of Sports Media Landscape 42:44 - Bronny James Update 45:02 - JJ Redick Discussion 46:48 - Klay Thompson's Future with Warriors 49:42 - Nick's Closing Thoughts 50:35 - How Nick Met Cameron and Mace 54:25 - Importance of Listening to Elders 55:50 - Being Open to Advice 57:38 - Outro APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: [e-mail] GUEST: Nick Dais Part 2 https://www.instagram.com/nickdais10/ https://www.youtube.com/veteransminimum LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Playing college kids that are going to be accountants and like photographers, no disrespect to either professions, but Lucas playing against professional basketball players that are 28, 30, and he's winning MVPs at 17, 18 years old. So the game to your point, bro, is definitely caught up in the rest of the world. But overall with Team USA,

it's not impressive to me when they went gold. All right, guys, how'd it get them back on the show? We got Nick here again. Let's go. Thank you. And you went viral that first time. Yeah, was getting fried. I was getting cooked.

So I guess what's the saying? All publicity is good publicity. Yeah. Are you here to double down on that take? Are you willing to acknowledge it might've been a stretch? I mean, it does look pretty bad now, post-Copa America. I'm gonna stay true to it, man. I'm gonna say true to it man I'm gonna say true to it I think I think the manager is out for halters out yeah which you know it's

always weird right could you imagine firing someone then bringing them back because that's exactly what happened with team USA and I think now they're gonna go after a big-name European guy I don't know if this is racist or nationalist, but I don't want my American coach to be American. I want him to be European. I think immediately, if you're watching soccer on TV, that's just me. And I'm a lifelong soccer fan, born and raised with the stars and stripes. But if I hear a British accent, if I hear a French accent, Brazilian accent, I'm in. When it's an American accent, I'm in

Right when it's an American dude, I'm like a little hesitant, you know, Jürgen Klinsman during his era He's the one that sort of started the dual citizenship guys. I'd be like wait Sean Kelly's German but his mom is American. Let's get him Sean's a one of the best center forwards in Germany right now Let Let's get Nick, who's Greek and American. He has the citizenship, let's get him. So he sort of started the springboard of dual citizenship guys, right? And that helped a lot with the program. But you know, losing in Copa America,

the way that they did it was supposed to be like a trial run before the World Cup since the Copa was here and the World Cup is gonna be here. They need a big namename manager and they have pieces man they have a lot of promising pieces and it's not just like American people saying that they're good pieces it's like you know Policich and AC Milan had a career year. McKinney played really well at Juventus. Bolligan in France like they have guys you know so I'm gonna stay with it bro

let's go viral again let's get fried again I embrace all the smoke all right so you got the US team winning the World Cup yes sir let's go staying true what about the US basketball team look man I think you know I get a lot of heat for this on my show don't care about it really yeah I think if you're an American basketball player I don't want to hear about your gold medals. Wow. I think it's expected. They're minus 900 to win the gold. So it's almost lost to South Sudan. I know it was very alarming as a 44 43 point favorite. Crazy. But I also think

that when the time comes, it's one of those teams are gonna be like, all right, man, now it's the real shit. Now it's not a scrimmage. It's not an exhibition. Like, let's get shit popping. You just look at the roster. It's the most complete roster. I will say if they don't win gold, I think you might be in trouble moving forward because Canada is fantastic.

Like, they got a lot of NBA guys. I mean, shit, their backcourt is SGA and Murray. Yeah. They're starting five solid. Very, very solid. And these are guys that they've gone up against the dudes on America, too. They're not intimidated by them.

A lot of times, that's what happens with these other countries. They're like, holy shit, LeBron is here. We're like, Jamal Murray. I've beaten him 12 out of the last 13 times he played. So I think USA and US basketball, I always get heat for this. I'm like, you know, the quicker you mention a player's gold medals on his accolades, the quicker I'm going to check out of the conversation.

Like I love Carmelo Anthony. He's the only big name superstar to ever actually come to the Knicks. Everyone loves New York, but he's the first one to actually come there. But when I argue with my friends about Mello, they're like, yo, he got three gold medals. I'm like, we're done with the con I don't want to hear it because it's like expected. You know, I mean like you're minus 900. You're the Mecca You're the real Standard of basketball the biggest league in the world is in your country. Everyone wants to come here So it's not like impressive when they win the gold at least for me. I rather

They should win by 30 each game. I don't care how good these other countries have gotten, but like, all right, when you play at Canada, maybe you win by 20. That's just how I feel. I feel that. It does seem like other countries are catching up though. Oh, for sure, man, definitely.

And then you just look at, if you look at the all NBA team from this past season, 2024, it's only Tatum that's American. Wow. Out of all 15? No, no, no, on the first team. Oh, first five. Yeah.

And then if you look at the NBA, NBA, MVP, last couple have not been American dudes. It's been Jokic, it's been Janis, it's been Embiid. I know Embiid now plays for Team USA, but originally he didn't. So the European game is closing in, man, and these guys are coming in more developed, they're coming in more successful with accolades overseas.

Like one of my best takes ever, dude, was I was all in on Luca coming into the draft because that was the year that him and Aitin were going, like who's gonna be one, who's gonna be two? And you know, my dad is Greek, and we watch European basketball on like a Tuesday afternoon in New York and beyond. And a lot of the Greek club teams, they're really good.

And we'd see Luca at 17, just violating dudes. I'm like, yo, this guy's on the NBA? My dad knew more about him. He was like, hey man, he's one of the big prospects. I was like, this kid's gonna go one, because Aitin's playing college kids that are gonna be accountants and like photographers. No disrespect to either professions,

but Lucas playing against professional basketball players that are 28, 30, and he's winning MVPs at 17, 18 years old. So the game, to your point bro, has definitely caught up in the rest of the world, but overall with Team USA, it's not impressive to me when they win gold. I feel that. Yeah, you've been at this for nine years now.

Yeah, nine years, bro. Watching sports almost every single day, right? Yeah, 2015, bro. My whole life was that. I was always a sports dude in my friend group. And especially when the betting came into it. Even at a young age, when I was in high school, my teachers would be like,

who do you like in the Monday Night Football game? They cover, like that was always like my thing. I feel like everyone has nerd qualities about them. You might be into comic books, might be into wrestling. I was always into like betting and numbers. Like that was always, you know, statistics. That was the only class I paid attention to. I feel that. You found your strength, huh. That was the only class I paid attention to. I feel that.

You found your strength, huh? Yeah, yeah, just doubled down. I'd rather do that. Are you up this year on betting? Am I up? Yeah, well, I did hit some crazy, crazy parlays. Like most recently at Copa America, I hit a Columbia 3-0 and Brazil 4-1.

Damn, you predicted the scores? Yeah, yeah. Holy crap. So, I get that reaction a lot, and I'm not gonna say it's not difficult, and I don't wanna come off as some like, correct score guru. I will say in soccer,

it's a lot easier to sort of handicap, right? Because it's harder to score. So, you say, and well, this team is so much more superior than the other, 3-0 is in play. You look at the goal line, it's them to win by two goals is minus 160. So maybe I should bet two-zero, three-zero.

You look at the game with Brazil and Paraguay. Brazil was coming off a lackluster performance against Costa Rica. They tied zero-zero. Everyone's like, holy shit, what happened to the Brazil? I knew and loved. And then they play Paraguay. Par's like, holy shit, what happened to the Brazil I knew and loved? And then they play Paraguay. Paraguay are an inferior opponent, a familiar opponent too, because they play each other

in Copa America World Cup Qualifying. And yeah, man, it's just, you know, you expect when a team is up 2-0, 3-0, the other team's going to try to press and maybe pull a goal back. And that's what happened. And then they leave themselves open to counterattacks, and then that's what happened to make it 4-1. I actually watched that game in person, it was here in Vegas, and I was hammered, bro.

I'm yelling, I'm like, so many Casamigos on the rocks in. That shit was packed. Yeah, and the Brazilian players are literally warming up where you are, like in front of me, because we had win field club tickets, shout out to the win, and they're warming up, and it's like the 75th me. Because we had win field club tickets, shout out to the win. And they're warming up. And it's like the 75th minute, they're about to make substitutions.

I'm just yelling at the top of my lungs that the players like, yo, Rafinha don't score. Endrick, don't score. They probably don't even speak English. They don't, yeah, they don't speak English. They speak Portuguese. And then all the people in the section with me are like, yo, why do you want them not to score?

And then some people are like, yo, what'd you bet? I'm like, yo, I bet 4-1. They're like, for real, I'm showing them my tickets. They're like, yo, why do you want them not to score? And then some people were like, yo, what'd you bet? I'm like, yo, I bet four, one. They're like, for real, I'm showing them my tickets. They're like, holy shit. And then bro, like the 88th minute, everyone's yelling, don't score! So I had the whole crowd behind me. But to your initial point,

with the betting, I've hit some monster futures. I had the Mavericks and the Celtics to be in the finals at the start of the playoffs. I had England winning the Euro Cup. I had Columbia winning the Euro Cup, the Copa America. So I just like, whenever I make a prediction, right, and some people don't understand this, so your sports betting crowd will understand this.

Who I think is gonna win and who I bet are completely different conversations. Ever so often, it is the same. So like who I thought was going to win was Columbia and who I bet was Columbia. Start to finish, I thought they were the best team in Copa America. They lose an extra time to Argentina.

Oh, so you had that before the playoffs even started? Yeah, I'm telling you, all these bets are before. Wow. So like Celtics and Mavericks, I made the bet before the playoffs started, but I gave out the Mavericks like around March to win the finals at 40 to one. Two.

So then what you could do when you make that bet is you could cash out, you could hedge against it, right? And that's what I did, I had a 40 to 1 on the Mavericks. And what I did was the Celtics were like minus 220 minus 225. I'm like, damn, do I run the risk of betting them after game one if the Mavericks do win? Because then I could get maybe like one minus 130 minus 140. I'm like, man, Boston is so much better. It's the same way I felt about Spain. I'm like, I wish I was holding a Spain ticket against England. Because just start to finish, the Celtics were the best team.

They crushed them. Spain was the best team. So there's opportunities that you can make to hedge on the way up when it comes. So to answer your initial question, I know I was long winded. I'm up, but I got really lucky on some like parlays. Like the parlay was 255 to 1. Holy crap. So like these aren't things that you're hitting all the time. Like the correct score alone for Columbia was 10 to 1. Paraguay, Brazil 4-1 was 22 to 1. So those alone are basically parlays which is also cool

with like correct scores or finals matchups and futures, UFC props, round four submission. You can see those being parlays because the payouts are so nice, right? Like if you hit me up, you're like, yo Nick, I need a parlay. You're expecting like 20 to 1 odds, right? You don't want me to be like, yo, here's a four leg parlay, pays minus 115. You'll be like, no bro, I want some good shit. Or I could be like, hey, man, why don't you bet this guy, by submission, round four, because his opponent is

fighting a five round fight for the first time. This guy's a Brazilian Jiu Jitsu black belt. There's ways you can get edges. So I've hit a lot of monster bets like that. But I'd say that this football season was probably my worst from a Against a spread record however What I did this year for the first time and I think it's being accustomed to the Vegas culture and talking to pro sports

Butters out here. I Bet more on the games I felt comfortable with so like my record was about like 51% coming off a 60% the year before when you first had me on the show to now it's like you know I could go one in four on the week but if that one game I was like yo this is like Sean take take the subscriber money from YouTube bet this there's ways that you could still be up okay that makes sense yes it offsets the losses because you're still be up. Okay that makes sense. Yeah so it offsets the losses because you're betting more on the wins that makes sense.

Yeah some bettors make money winning 40-45% right because they just go all in on certain games. No totally yeah and to that point like you know if my all-star will play or whatever it is, like my platinum play, you know, the people that sell their picks, that's like my most confident and that hits. And I'm telling you like, yo, you should though, you're a hundred dollar better, right? In this hypothetical, Sean, you should put a thousand

on this, bro, it's a lock. Like it's my favorite play of the month, of the year. And you know, every now and then, man, I think all sports betters, I think all sports sports fans they get that conviction about one particular play and dude I'm probably like eight and three and those like man I just feel it bro like Max Holloway when he fought Justin Gaethje yeah fighting up at 155 I'm like yo you guys are bugging I was the only person I felt like in media picking Max with like confidence I'm like dude he has six months to train for this fight.

He's not taking it on short notice. Max is longer, range year, could keep him at distance. Yeah. You know, Gagey is a wild striker. Max is just going to pick him apart. And like three minutes into the fight, I'm like, oh, my God, this is going to be an all time take. Dude, I saw a lot of people make money on the Ryan Garcia one betting on that one. Yeah. Did you bet on him on that?

I didn't know. I did money on the Ryan Garcia one betting on that one. Yeah, did you bet on him on that? I didn't know I um I Did mention on like my social media. I'm like, you know Ryan was like a five-to-one underdog Like I think that's kind of crazy, you know, yeah Haney isn't exactly the the most He's not a tank right like tank puts people away puts people to sleep Haney is more technical and you know, it's a lot of the records too. Like last time you saw Ryan, he lost. Boxing has gone to a point now,

and boxing isn't like my favorite. I do respect the art and I do love fighting, but boxing is, oh, you got a loss, you suck. You got three losses, oh, get this guy out. Why is he on pay-per-view? Where in the UFC, the biggest stars have five, six, 12 losses on their resume. And hey man, sometimes you could leave a fight

off a loss and you're better off for it. You know, like you gotta add context to it. Did you take this on short notice? Are you fighting at a different weight class? Is this your toughest opponent? Were you a plus 400 underdog and you impress people and you look good? You know, like I know I know it didn't age well but Alex Volkonovsky, he was the champion at featherweight 145 in the UFC. He fights Islam and he was a big underdog the first fight and he people

thought he won that fight and he leaves that fight Better than he came into it Dustin Poirier in his last fight against Islam. It's like yo, he looked really good It's it's a momentum builder and it happens and I say the most recent one. You probably remember this Danny gay. Mm-hmm Took the fight like three hours before Didn't know wasn't schedule. It's, that's how you become a legend. And yeah, you lost. You look at his schedule, like his strength of schedule and his resume and his record.

Oh, he got a loss. But it's like, yeah, bro, he took that shit on four and a half hours notice. Yeah. He saved the, not the event, but like he saved the fight on there. And yeah, he lost, but he looked good in round three. Like, what the fuck? We thought he was going to gas out. Absolutely. So you could look better in losses.

For sure. Have you been to a WNBA game yet? I've never been to a WNBA game. Would you ever go? Yeah, I would go. I'm a sports fan, so I'll go to it. I'll be honest. I'm not like going on my way to, but if you were, but like, dude, I don't go out my way for a lot of things. Like, you know, there's UFC events, and I love UFC. It's like, hey man, do you want to go? I'm like, I don't know, it's kind of an underwhelming card. I'd rather stay home. Believe it or not, bro, I love football.

Hate going to football games. I think the product on TV is so much better. And then you have your Red Zones, you have your YouTube packages, and you're like, yo, fuck man. Imagine watching that shit here with all the screens that you got in here It's like whoa do viewing parties and whatnot so the the product at home is so much better and I Try not it needs to be an occasion right like Brazil Paraguay going to that

I went to Uruguay Brazil when it was here in Vegas how my parents come visit We got Winfield Club tickets like it needs to be a little bougie, and it needs to be a little bit of an experience. But the A's are coming here to Vegas. Like, the amount of free tickets I would get when I was back home in New York, because my dad got that coffee truck on 49th and Park Ave, and like all our customers would be like,

hey man, you want to go to the Met Game tonight? It's like, I don't want to go, bro. It was 150 games a year. Yeah. And I got to drive an hour and a half and then sit in traffic. It's ninety eight degrees of humidity from the East Coast, how that humidity sucks. So with the WNBA, I do want to see I do want to see this rookie class. Oh, man. I think it'd be dope if you were to be like,

you want to go to Indiana to watch them in the sky play? And like Angel Reese and Caitlin, like, yo, that might be dope. But to watch like the Aces play the Liberty, even though they're probably the two best teams in the league? No, not really. Yeah, I'm not too hyped about it. Did you see the USA women's basketball team just lost? Yeah, and they lost a lot to pretty much everyone

that they left off the roster. Yeah, crazy, right? Yeah, it happens, man. Too much politics. Yeah, it's politics for sure. Like, at any level of national team, there's always politics, right? Jalen Brown.

Yeah, Jalen Brown, prime example. That's crazy. He won East and NBA Finals MVP, and it was the first $300 million man, and he's not good enough to be on this roster. I think there's definitely politics in that. You know, you look at, in soccer, this coach favors these players,

because they came up with him. Well, these players are now 36. Why don't we play this 22-year-old? Yeah, but this is my guy. Sean is my guy. I've been coaching Sean since he was 12 and now he's 36. Yeah, but a woman's soccer team, right? Oh yeah, dude. That was the downfall for the woman's soccer team. Like they, uh, um, Rodman Dennis Robbins daughter. Yeah. She's nasty. Uh, Sophia Smith, nasty. They weren't getting as much playing time cause they were playing

the Rapinos of the world. And it's like, dude, Rapinoe was my favorite player. Like 2011, 2015, like she's nice, she's nasty. But you're just not that person anymore. Like age catches up to you, your performance is not that. And even Alex Morgan to an extent, it's like, yo, these young girls will make the team better. Why are we still, but to your point

and how you started this initial question, it's politics involved, man, and anything in women's sports. And then it's sad because when you're in the middle of that, like if you're a player that you don't have an allegiance to the coach and the older players, and you don't have allegiance to the young players, you're like, fuck man, what about me?

Why do I gotta suffer this? Why can't we play Sean? Sean is our best player. Why are we playing Nick? Nick sucks. You know, so like, you fall into that and it's terrible. You're at a crossroads there.

As a fan, it's tough because you have a personal relationship. You like that player, right? Like you're a big Mellow fan, but a lot of people wanted him out. Yeah, I mean, shit, I tell you about Eli Manning, bro. Like Eli Manning, I think, is the best example. After 2017, he was just not that guy.

And it set the franchise back. And that happens a lot, too, sometimes, where you have a quarterback and he's aging, and he's just not as good, but he's giving you Super Bowls. He's giving you all these great moments and memories. And you want to hold onto that. But then what happens is, you're the Giants now where you've been a mess for about eight years. I'm being polite. Yeah, I think it's longer than that. But you were

holding on to Eli Manning. You were holding on to these pieces that just weren't what they once were. And then you sabotage the franchise. You get the fan base angry and then it spirals crazy. I remember asking you about Saquon on the last time we filmed, and he's gone now, right? He's gone now, and I've never been more confident in a player winning an award. I've been talking about it from the day he signed with the Eagles.

Saquon Barkley is going to be the offensive player of the year in 2024. I think he has the Christian McCaffrey year that McCaffrey had last year. I think if you look at play style, situation, offense, offensive line, the the fuck you attitude now like bet y'all didn't want to pay me. I'm gonna go to the rival to the one team that every fan of the Giants hates and I'm gonna go crazy. I'm you know he played at Penn State so there's like a Philly Penn State, I guess well, Pennsylvania. Yeah

It's just the best situation. He's been in man. And and I think what Philly saw last year Was running Jalen hurts with this tush push and the Philly shove the brotherly shove It's like this guy was getting beat up and then come post Thanksgiving December into the playoffs like dude was hurt. He wasn't playing as well So I think you have this 27 year old running back with a fuck you attitude You only paid him a two-year deal really, you know, there's a player option and team option mutual agreement for year three Oh, you're gonna run them into the ground. That's what I think they do Absolutely Giants record predictions for 2025. I mean bro like So underwhelming man

They still have Daniel Jones. Yeah, Daniel Jones is coming back. He's in a proving deal once again. I Like the direction they're going in but it's still you know, they cleared out a lot of the older players guys that You know, they cleared out a lot of the older players guys that Justified the money but like am I gonna pay a safety 15 million dollars when my team has all these other holes McKinney that is who ended up going to Green Bay I don't know five and twelve six and eleven. So you're realistic. Yeah, I I myself on being pretty subjective with my teams. I don't go into every year being like, we're winning the Super Bowl.

We're winning the finals. Yeah, I think all things go well. Maybe they go into week 18 with a chance at a wild card. But it'll be one of those situations where you see the graphic, and it's like, giants to make the playoffs. This team needs to tie. This team needs to tie. This team needs to lose. This team needs to win by three touchdowns.

All that crazy shit. But I just don't think the team is really good. I think the offensive line is still an issue. Has it been an issue for a decade? I find that really hard to believe. But yeah, I'm not that excited about this year, though I am excited about them moving forward. What about the Knicks?

Because there's a lot of talk about Brunson taking that pay cut. I mean, dude, as a Knicks fan, build that dude a statue. Retire the jersey right now. $113 million pay cut. Yeah. As a non-Knicks fan and as someone that now understands money at 33 years old

and understands just how much money that is, you're a fucking idiot. Like that's a lot of money to leave, right? But hey man, look, I think I'm a firm believer and it was something I wanted to ask you and I kind of wanted to surprise you with this. Like you have a lot of people that come on your show that make me laugh, bro. Like you have people that come on here and I'm not gonna name any names

but like they'll be like oh dude having a hundred million dollars isn't a lot and I'm just like the delusion bro like sometimes like you know I don't like counting people's pockets or anything but I could tell you one thing bro and this is the God's honest truth, the moment I started making money was the happiest I ever was. Like, I'm a believer of money buys you happiness. What you do with it is gonna depend on it, right? Like, if you're an asshole,

you're just an asshole with money. If you get a phone call from a family member, or your lady, or one of your best friends, and like, yo, I'm in a spot. My car broke down, fuck, I gotta do this, we got a baby on the way, whatever it might be. Be like, yo, how much would you need? I need $4,000 to do, you know.

All right, here. Really? Yeah, here. Like, you know, I did that for my parents, man, back around the holidays. My mom called me, my mom called me, and she was just like, you know, I did that for my parents, man, back around the holidays. My mom called me, my mom called me, and she was just like, you know, we got, sorry mom, but we got some bills coming up.

Like, you know, I want to, now that I moved here from New York, right, we've made 4th of July and Christmas like the annual trip my parents come to visit. My dad is self-employed, so he can't take time off. My mom's a teacher. So, it was around Thanksgiving, and I was back home. And my mom is like, we got a little caught up

with some bills, and life just happens, man. Things break down, whatever it might be. I was like, yo, how much you need? And she told me the amount. I was like, all right, give me until Friday. She's like, really? I was like, yeah. Friday came, bam, sent it to her. I was like, all right, give me until Friday. She's like, really? I was like, yeah. Friday came, bam, sent it to her.

I was like, yeah, you know what? I don't even want it back. And she started crying. And like to me, that's happiness, bro. That is, yeah. Like that, you can't like, that three, four, 10, $20,000 you give to someone that you really care about,

and you know like really cares about you, like it's mom, right? It's mom, it's dad. It's like they got your back, right? And to me, that that is something where Man even on like a smaller scale bro like I went back home And I just paid a $800 dinner with all my buddies like I don't see and Like I just went and I did that slick shit where I want to use the bathroom

And then the guys are like yo, where's the boy? I was like I took care of it like bro We had like three bottles of wine and we had like all this fucking sushi coming out. I was like, yeah, bro, like, you're all my guys, man. You guys are my childhood friends and you guys like hold me down, you hold me accountable. Like, that's happiness to me, bro. Like having the freedom to be able to help the people

that you can, like, there's certain things that you just can't put money on. To circle back to this, that's a lot of money that he gave up. But to defend him a little, maybe he wants to win in New York, bro. You become a legend, dude. Oh, if they win now? Oh my God. That's going to be the greatest move of all time, probably. For real. Maybe some people, they're not about money. Maybe he was a guy, and I don't know, I don't know Jalen Br not about money And maybe he was a guy and I don't know I don't know Jalen Brunson But maybe he was a guy that was like look man. I'm kind of undersized Maybe if I could get a second contract that'd be dope I don't really have crazy spending habits like you see how he dresses. He kind of dresses like Bummy

Yeah, I'm sure it's probably high-end Bummy stuff But like he shows up in sweatpants and hoodies and like, you know probably high end bummy stuff, but like he shows up in sweatpants and hoodies and like, you know, ball caps and whatnot. Maybe he wants to just play with his boys that he went to college with and he won with and they're like, yo bro, wouldn't it be fire if we won in New York of all places? The 94 team gets celebrated. They came in second. Imagine if they won. Like Lynn sanity was running wild for three weeks, and they wanted to retire the number 17. For some people, man, money isn't the root of happiness, and for others it is.

And me personally, I'm like, yo, once I started making money, I've never been happier. Because it's like little shit, bro. You take your friend out to lunch, you just pay for the lunch. And I know I'm talking about like 25, 30, $100, but just little gestures like that like to them it's like damn you know that hundred dollars now I could put it towards something

else yeah you know so like to me and we're Brunson maybe for him it's bigger than money and he's cashed in like I was talking about on my show now he's north of 200 million that he's made in his career Wow it's a lot of money bro I know I know a lot of people that come on your show are like, oh yeah, if you have $100 million, you're a piece of shit. And I'm just like, Sean, what are we doing? It's interesting to see people's perspectives, man.

Yeah, and that's what I think everything is, man. We were talking before we started recording how you don't like to generalize anything. That's kind of how I live my life, too. And I also think perspective. Maybe you grew up and your your family was The jobs family and like all you knew was money. I like literally a platinum spoon in your mouth You were born into so to you you might be like, yeah, I grew up with this shit

like it's it's it's whatever like I don't know any different, but You're someone like me that dude I used to make four hundred fifty450 a week working with my dad at the coffee truck, waking up at 2.30 in the morning, flipping eggs, doing all that shit, and then creating my content also on the side. And now, I make that in an edit. You know what I mean?

That's my one day. So for me, it's perspective, and whenever I get opportunities to do more and more, I'm just like, yeah, Sean, you need an editor for something, a one off? Or like, yeah, man, I'm down. Oh, you got too much on your plate. Don't worry about it. My plate is not full yet. I'll be able to handle it.

Trust me. Do you know what I had to do to make $400 fucking three years ago? So I just think perspective and not generalizing anything. I think that's the best way to look like you. I agree, yeah, because I get heat for having OF girls on sometimes, and dude, some of them are really intelligent. Yeah.

Like I'm not even going to lie. I believe it. But they get a ton of hate on social media. Of course, it's a stigma, right? It's the immediately, oh, I do OnlyFans? Oh, you're a piece of shit. I have a lot of friends that do it, and even when I go out on dates and the girl will be like, oh, yo, I do OnlyFans, oh you're a piece of shit. I have a lot of friends that do it and like

Even when I go out on dates and the girl will be like, oh, yeah, I do OnlyFans I'll just be like, yo size 10 and they're like what I was like I wear size 10 sneakers I was like you could take care of me then, you know, like fucking around and whatnot I'll be like yo dope dinners on you like trolling obviously I pay for everything but you know, it's just like I don't know man I know I know girls that have only fans and they're in great relationships They're married with kids. But hey man, if you can make $20,000 a month 30 like some of the numbers that you hear. Why not? I show a little nipple if I can make 20k a month How's dating out here? I heard it's rough dating is very interesting. I would say dating here in Vegas is a...

Cause you're from New York. I love my East coast girls personally. Yeah, I kind of like Spanish chicks more than anything. Really? Yeah, from a young age. Like I grew up in Queens for like... Like those Latinos. Oh yeah, 100%.

But look, dating out here, it's cool, man. Again, it's like generalizing. I went on dates with girls that work in the nightlife and bottle industry, and they've been hell. And I've dated other girls that are in that, and they've been awesome. I've been the reason it didn't work out. You welcome?

Yeah, just like, yo, I'm just busy. And I need you to do something. I'm very busy. I'm going to cancel on you, not because I'm just busy and I need you to do something. Like I'm very busy, I'm gonna cancel on you, not because I'm being a dick and to make you like me more. It's like, yo, I'm a Swiss Army knife at the studio. You see me there. Like I do a lot of shit there. And to what I was just saying before,

like I'm a hustler, bro. Like I want, yeah, you need someone to cover three to six? I'm in. Maybe I made plans with fucking Katie to go get lunch at four o'clock. Like, yo, work came up. My bad. I'm busy. Work comes first for you. Yeah. Work comes first. The show comes first. Kam and Mace, they come first. There are certain things that are priorities in my life that when I get a phone call about it, it's like,

yo, everything kind of stops, man. I'm making good money now. I'm in a very, very good place. I'm happy. Yeah, I don't want to fuck those things up that make me feel that way. So dating in Vegas is fine, man. There's a lot of beautiful women out here, for sure.

But also, my experience, I've noticed that they treat guys the way guys the stigma is treat girls. They kind of like maybe one night standish or maybe like they just want to get their thing in and then that's it. That's not my vibe at all. Yeah not mine either. Yeah I need to date that girl like I'm not gonna do a one night stand personally. Well I also think like yo I've gotten older right like I was in my fuckboy ever we all went through it in college and I feel like I told a lot of my friends like I feel like every guy and I think guys could have tested it's like you kind of got to get your hoe out

your system until the right person comes along and you never know what it's gonna be hopefully it's not when you're 48 yeah that's that's weird like I'm 33 now I don't want to be 42 Single having never been in a relationship It's like yeah, it's gonna be hard to go to you know, you have a family like hey, man You want to come to the barbecue and you have two kids and I'm just like hey, how's your cousin? Is she single it'd be weird. I don't want to be that guy like that shit is weird I see some dudes I see some dudes in like their 50s dating like 21 and 22 year olds

I was like that shit is nasty bro. Like I'm 33 if I if I meet a girl and she's like 21 That's even weird to me. It's tough to converse It's is weird bro, like even though it's allowed and it's fine and like yeah, she's hot. It's like well Yeah, what can I talk about? Right? Yeah, you've just been through You need to be able to relate. It got to be something. You got to have something. I look for a girl to have an ambition.

It's a big turn on for me when they cancel. Really? Because they're busy. I'm not saying cancel because I regret making plans for them. But I mean, hey, I got called into work, something came up. And like, I know it's a legit, right? Like, I'm not saying, hey, I can't make dinner, I got called into work, and then you're a haka-san.

That's different. But I'm saying, like, to me, like, it just shows me that you're doing some shit. Because I'm busy, I'm wildly ambitious. I got this thing in my mind where like, yo, when I'm 40 years old on my birthday, I want to be able to call my accountant and be like yo can I retire right now if I wanted to and I just Want him to say yes like all your funding your lifestyle the things you like to do

I just want him to be like yeah You could if you wanted to for the rest of your life, and that's what like I strive for absolutely you'll find her man We'll see we'll see major moves happening in the sports media space. Do you want to talk about this stuff? So with skip Bayless, they're saying, I don't know if he got fired or he's leaving, but this is his last year. Right. And meanwhile, his ex partner, Shannon's got the number one podcast in the sports media space. What's your take on that situation? I just think that it's very difficult when you break up on a,

an initial thing like a Steven Steve and A in Skip, to replace it. And then when you do replace it, ego gets into it. I think that's what it all is, it's ego. You and I do a show together, I leave the show, you hire Bob, Bob is now your co-host, Bob don't work out, you hire Mike. Now Mike and you do better than what you did with me initially.

You know who's gonna get a big ego? Mike. I want more. Why is Sean making, wait, Nick was making, how much is Sean and I'm making this? So I think money comes into it. I also think that there are a couple things in content right now that I think have plateaued. It's Red Pill stuff. It's the OnlyFans girl being a piece of shit

stuff. It's hot take sports takes. I think those have like plateaued. Like Skibilis is the hot take king. He created the LeBron James is not a top 50 player of all time. What the fuck? What is going on? What is he talking about? And then that's the conversation for three days other shows on the network are now covering Skiballis' take right like that's influence. That's power and I think His thing has just kind of plateaued man like that kind of content I think has plateaued like people plateaued. People want debate. I think debate is still in.

But they don't want the hot take. They want you to really believe in what you're saying. Don't say things because it's going to go viral or it's going to be clip-worthy or it's going to spike up the algorithm. Whatever it might be. I know I kind of tied all those things into the same thing. But that's what I think is happening with Skip.

And I think that now the sports media landscape has changed and a lot of that has to do with what we're doing and it is what it is too. Like Cameron and Mace, man, like those guys, they've changed it. Like they've shown people a blueprint that, yo, you don't need an ESPN, Fox, CBS to make millions of dollars.

And you go up there and they show up in suits, they talk wild, they talk reckless, they call out athletes, they kind of say it how it is. It is what it is. They got free speech. Yeah, and they express that. They have an amazing partnership with each other. They have an amazing partnership with their sponsor, and they allow them.

They're on YouTube. They talk the way people in barbershops talk, the way you and I would talk about sports. Man, this guy ain't shit, bro. How you get 100 million? But when you say that, you're saying that in the context to other professional athletes. So I think just things have changed,

and maybe that kind of content has gotten stale. That's interesting. And I know last time we talked you said you want to sign to ESPN one day. So has your opinion changed after seeing it as what it is? Well, I linked up with them now. So it's been good. Yeah.

I got to host their show also, which was really dope. And I do a lot of the behind the scenes and I make my cameos on the show also. Yeah, I think still like if I got a chance to work with ESPN, I would love to. I wouldn't say no. But I think now I'm in a position where I feel like my show has hit a next level and my show's doing really well. And I would rather take less and do what I'm doing now than take more and then being like, oh, you have 90 seconds to get your take in, you know, because there's a lot of that too.

Right. I think another reason with the sports media landscape is you have a 10 minute window between commercials. You have a six person panel. Yeah. He had so many on his show. How are you going to get all your shit in bro? Oh, I think Jalen Brown should have been on Team USA. He won NBA Finals MVP. All right, Sean's turn. It's like, well, I can't elaborate. Maybe Sean says something, and I want to comment on it. Maybe Sean says that Tatum isn't better than Derek White. I'm just saying this hypothetical.

And I'll be like, oh, Sean, you're crazy. Why do you believe that? Don't you think x, y, z? It's like, no, you can't, because we have three and a half minutes until we go to commercial, and we still need Suzy and Mike to comment on the Jalen Brown thing. So I just think that the media landscape has changed,

and there's a lot of ways for you to make money now. Podcast game's blowing up. We got Shaq starting a show now, Shannon Sharpe's killing it. Stephen A. Smith has a show now who you interviewed. So I think it's shifting towards podcasts. Oh yeah, for sure. Because you get a freedom.

You get a freedom on there. You're not back behind a network. A lot of people don't know that Stephen A.'s podcast has nothing to do with ESPN. It's all independently. It's his. Wow. He has separate sponsors.

Yeah, if you watch his show, it's pretty sure he has a FanDuel sponsor, where everything on ESPN is ESPN bet. So like there's different things man. The coolest thing about creating content is that you're not married to one thing, one company. Now you should have your priorities in order where like you know if I'm hosting veterans minimum

and I have a co-host on there, and they're my co-hosts and they get paid handsomely and they're doing well, they're allowed to go get other opportunities, but don't forget where your bread is buttered. Don't forget that this is the springboard. You're able to do different things. We're recording this in the middle of July,

to add context to what I'm gonna say now, I might be on like four different shows come September, working with different people. With each show, I'm talking about different things, because I wouldn't want to start a sports betting show with you, because I have my own. I'd rather you come and listen to my show.

I'd rather you. Plus I don't know shit about it. Right, but I'm just saying in this example, just in general, I've been offered many times, like, oh, come and listen to my show. I don't know shit about it, but I'm just saying in this example, just in general, like I've been offered many times like, oh, come host a sports running show. Why I have veterans, the number one sports betting vibe on the Internet. That's how like I paint the picture. So I rather you come and listen to me there than start a sports betting show with someone else. Yeah.

So that's how I think the sports sports media landscape is. Absolutely. Yeah. And that show on TNT is ending, right? With Charles Barkley and Shaq. That's going to be a big change. Yeah. Yeah, they're going to get picked up, though. You think so?

I'm surprised TNT ended that. A lot of money, man. I think TNT just couldn't outbid the new people coming in. You're talking about, like, I think I saw $75 billion. Holy shit. So NBA is not going to be on TNT anymore. It's gonna be on now It'll be on a lot of that like Amazon is gonna have some games ESPN like the media deal is bonkers Wow, it's like 75 billion. So yeah, maybe TNT is like, you know, we can't hold that

I can't wait till Vegas gets a team. Oh, yeah, it's gonna be psyched. That's gonna be sick. Yeah, it's been like the Oh, yeah, that's gonna be psyched. That's gonna be sick. Yeah, it's been like the Unofficial like word I'm hearing rumors LeBron's gonna be a part owner. I mean who knows but yeah, we'll see now LeBron I mean his his dream was to bring a team. I Don't know about bringing the team to Vegas, but it's been known that he wants to be a team owner I'm like shit man. Who wouldn't want to live here, bro? Isn't this the best city? Dude, I love it. Other than the heat, that's the only downside I could think of. Yeah, but still, whatever. You stay indoors, bro.

Yeah, but other than that, I mean, the food's great, networking's solid. Networking is the best. No one comes to Vegas and is in a shitty mood. Facts. Everyone's hyped. Ever. Everyone comes to Vegas, they're hyped. It's also cool because, like, you know, I have a running joke on my show where it's like,

we don't live in Idaho, bro Like people come and visit here. Like this is a dope spot again. No offense to Idaho I've never been but like this is this is like a Miami. This is like a New York. It's an LA Oh, yeah have people come to visit here frequently, dude I've filmed 15 times a week as you know, and I've done that for a year and a half with no issues in Vegas Yeah, people are always in and out. People are always here, bro. They're always here, and when they pull up,

they're in an amazing mood. Now, at the end of the trip, maybe the tables got them. Maybe those champagne rooms and the strip clubs got them. It's a different conversation, but initially, everybody I meet in Vegas, they're through the moon. Facts. You mentioned Braun earlier.

Where do you stand on all this Braunie drama, because there's a lot of hot takes on that one shit, man, I Feel there's a lot of pressure on the kid obviously His dad helped let's not be idiots. Yeah that helped but like fuck it, bro I would probably do the same for my kid if I can get him into the league and and and pull the strings on on Organizations and finesse my way into having my kid in there like fuck it. No, I don't think anyone's ever gonna do that

Yeah from a parental point of view. I would do the same shit Yeah, I think anybody would and like all right, bro Like it's not his fault his dad was LeBron James and your dad worked UPS or whatever is doing like no if I said I like my dad flipped eggs his whole life still does., all right if my dad was LeBron James. I'm sure he would probably get me into the league All right, like how many people in other industries? They hand over their hedge fund or their law firm gets passed on Kelly group all the time it all the time so it just happened on a on a prime scale in a in a space where Bro, the the bus family that run the Lakers,

that's how they got their power. It gets its heritage, it gets passed down. So whatever, they just did it in sports and it was the first of its kind. That's why I was like frowned upon because the only other time off the top of my head that I can remember a parent and a kid playing together was Griffey.

But like Griffey was nasty. The Griffey son was better than the father. So it wasn't like, oh man, he finessed his way to get drafted and to play with his kid. Like, nah, nah, Ken Griffey Jr. was that dude. He was that guy, yeah. Right, where like Brawny, he had the heart issue, right? He had the health issue at USC,

so he didn't get to play as much. So maybe if he did play and he was healthy, maybe he performs better, maybe he plays better. But yeah, I mean, nepotism, right? Like he got his son into the league. It's part of life, yeah. I got no issues with it. I got no issues.

Yannis did it too with his brothers. Yeah, and they're trash. Yeah, there's two of them on the team, right? Or three? Two, two, two, yeah. There's four of them all together. Apparently the youngest one is really good. He's like better than all of them except for Giannis, obviously.

But yeah, man, that shit happens in every line of work, bro. Every line of work. Like, an internship, a kid gets it because his father runs it, or the uncle runs it. It happens all the time, so why is this any different? 100%. JJ Reddick, you think that was a good hire for the Lakers? I think the Lakers, and I feel this way about LA teams in general, it always needs to be a splash. It always needs to be a big hire. It always needs to be something that's going to make headlines.

It's a superstar driven city. If you look over the last couple of years, every move that they've ever made has been a big name. Matthew Stafford, LeBron James, Anthony Davis, Ohtani. It's always Mookie Betts, it's always a superstar. LA and New York, they ain't got time to develop a 18, 19 year old two guard. They don't got time to develop a quarterback. We want that shit right now, let's get an established piece, let's get shit popping facts

I'm not trying to wait for Brandon Ingram and Lonzo ball and the Angelo Russell No, no, we could trade them to get a D bet. Let's do that because we know what a D is He's a top 10 guy in the league when he's healthy We can we can sign LeBron James. Let's do that and look at the history of of their league, bro. Outside of like Magic Johnson, they brought in Kareem. They brought in Kobe. I remember Kobe didn't get drafted by the Lakers. No, he didn't? No, he got drafted, I believe it was Charlotte,

but he never played for Charlotte. Like he got drafted by another team, but then the Lakers made a trade for him. Shaq played with the Magic, get signed to the Lakers. So like, they're just a city that always goes for the splash plays. Like go back to the 90s, they signed Wayne Gretzky and it like changed hockey in LA forever.

Right, and it was like Gretzky was still good, still amazing, but he wasn't the Gretzky, he was on Edmonton winning all the Stanley Cubs. And it's like, that's just what that city is like. Yeah, facts. If you got the money, big market. You got it, man. You got it.

What did you think of Clay leaving? I think it was time. You didn't want him to retire there? No, man. So I know before we were talking about Jalen Brunson earlier on the show. And I'm pro player getting your money. You got to.

I know it's astronomical amounts of money that we're talking about, but their lifestyle is way different, right? So 200 million to an NBA player and 200 million to me is like vastly different because the way they live and the way I live now, obviously my life would change if I made $200 million. Klay, it's been written for a while, right?

I think the one thing that I had an issue with Clay is, hey man, you made over $100 million in the two years you didn't play, and last season where you had a career worst, you were getting paid for that. So to turn and to slander the organization and say, ah man, they did me wrong, did they bro? You didn't play for two years and you got, they paid you.

That's where I'm like, what we were talking about before, don't forget where your bread is buttered. Like these people hooked you up when they didn't have to. But now you're saying that you felt slighted and whatnot. It's like, did we forget about that? Because it happened three years ago, we forgot about it. I know we're a society that like, if happened two weeks ago we forgot what it is but I just think Klay going to Dallas is a dope move man I think it's a good

move. Yeah I think they need another shooter I think he could be rejuvenated maybe he has that FU season like I almost forgot now you're expecting him not to be a splash brother he's probably the fourth option they bring back PJ Washington it's like now you're in a better role at this point of your career him not to be a splash brother. He's probably the fourth option. They bring back PJ Washington. It's like now you're in a better role. At this point in your career, you're in a better role. That's interesting, because the NFL has injury clauses. So the NBA, I'm not sure if they do that done.

Well, the NBA is fully guaranteed. If you get hurt while playing the sport, it's still guaranteed. But it was the famous like Jay Williams when he got into the motorcycle accident it was like in his contract because they knew That he had like in your contracts happen with Pat Mahomes. Like if you if you go watch Patrick Mahomes before he signed the big deal. Mm-hmm. He was playing pickup basketball at the YMCA's He's going like snowboarding and shit. Once they gave him half a billion, like hey man,

we ain't doing that extra shit. You're not playing pick up basketball at the YMCA on a Wednesday. You're not, no. If you get hurt, you can play. You get hurt, that's avoided. Now if you blow out a knee week three of the season on the field, it's fine.

You're going to get your money, you're going to get paid because it happened on the field. But yeah, there's injury close in every contract, especially when they know that you have a lot of extracurricular activities you're into. You're into skydiving or some shit. They're going to account for that. They're protecting their money, man.

Nick, it's been cool. Anything you want to close off with? I know you're taking a break from podcasting, right Yeah, I've just been for the rest of the summer Just gonna pack it in come back fully fully strong for football season Yeah, man just been going at it for like nine years, and I feel like now people are starting to see it Hmm, and you know I was I got the host Is What It Is, with Cameron and Mace. That's awesome. And there was a comment that one of my really good friends,

Mustafa, left and he was like, man, this 90 second clip has thousands of hours behind it. And I was like, I think that's a perfect explanation. I called him and I was like, bro, this is one of my favorite comments of all time. Because it's true, man, people see what they see now. But it's like bro, we had to go through, and still do through a lot to get to where I'm at now.

And did I ever tell you the story about how I met Cam and Mace? No. Oh man, this will be a cool story to end on. It's the epitome of right place, right time. Are you a believer in that? I do. I think you meet everyone for a reason.

Yeah, yeah, totally man. And you know,, you know, as you know, I'm at the studio all the time. And it was on a day that I went food shopping. I just didn't want to cook. I was like, man, we're running all these errands for like two, three hours. I'm not in the mood to cook now. I got to be at the studio at six anyway. Let me just go now. I can eat at the win. Right. It's like one 30 in the afternoon. I show up to the studio. in, right? It's like 1 30 in the afternoon. I show up to the studio. I see a, there's a dude in the, in the actual studio space. Yes. Is back to the window. You've been to the winds. You know, the, the, like the fish bowl effect is back to it. I go in, I leave my backpack in there. Brian is in the control room. He's like, what the fuck are you doing

here? You're so early. And I told him what I just told you. In there is his dude Larry. Now Larry is like Cam's right hand man. But at the time I didn't know. He's like, hey man, Larry, nice to meet you. As I go to shake his hand, the dude in the studio turns around. It's Cam Ron. And I'm just like, yo, is that fucking Cam Ron? And Larry is like, yo, you know Killer?

You know Killer Cam? I was like, bro, I'm from New York. Yeah, yeah, I just moved out here. Help with the studio. He's like, bro, you gotta meet Cam you know killer cams like bro. I'm from New York. Yeah, I just moved out here help with the studio It's like bro. You gotta meet cam. We gotta meet cam. I mean cam we exchanged numbers. We exchanged Instagrams He's asking about the studio wants to rent it. They come back a couple weeks later Cam is raw. They do two shows with Paul Pierce Really good. They get great feedback from their team and their entourage and their fans are like, yo, where the fuck are you guys recording?

Like, this shit is fire, yada yada. They go on and sign their underdog deal. I shoot them a text like, yo, bro, this is so dope, so inspiring, like, good luck. If you're ever in Vegas, like, I'm going to let you buy me a beer or some shit. I said something silly like, yeah, like you paying for dinner, right? Because I knew they signed their underdog deal. And a couple of weeks later, I get a call from Cam and he's like, yo, I said something silly like, yeah, like you paying for dinner, right? Because I knew they signed their underdog deal. And a couple weeks later I get a call from Cam and he's like, yo, I'm thinking of moving everything

to Vegas. I'm like, oh. He's like, yeah, I got a lot of good feedback. I was like, bet, bro, let me know how I can help, you know, set you up at the studio, whatever it might be. He's like, all right, cool. Calls me two weeks later. He's like, yo, you edit?

I'm like, hey, he's like, what do you do? I was like, all right, do this, this and that. He's like, all right. Calls me about 10 days later. He's like, yo, you're my editor. I'm moving out there. Wow. We're starting Sunday. And this was like maybe the Monday before. He's like, yo, you could do it? I was like, sure. How quick of a turnaround? He's like, yo, I need it for the next day. I was like, all right. He's like, are you comfortable with this number? I was like, yeah, I'm cool. He's like, all right, bet.

Hell yeah. No pen, no paper. No nothing. Handshake deal. Not even handshake on the phone. Kind of just like that. And that's how it's been so dope, bro. Like one of the coolest fucking people I ever met. Dude, their clips are hilarious. So you edit those? I didn't even know that. Yeah, I do. I do pretty much everything.

Dude, I saw one about him talking about he can't watch a basketball movie unless the guy can play basketball. It's one of my biggest pet peeves. It's hilarious. It's one of my biggest pet peeves,'s one of my Larry it's one of my biggest pet peeves bro when I watch movies or shows and they're doing an athletic thing and they're not athletes like you could just tell when someone like shoots a basketball you like oh you've played before I think I have a high school musical well I think yeah that's a good one but I think of if you ever watch the Netflix show

stranger things yeah I've seen that there's a black hitter Oh, the black kid, right? Yeah, they play basketball. And they're like, yo, bro, what did this just looks awful? And when they're throwing the football, and it looks like they're throwing it left-handed, and they're not lefties. But yeah, I do a lot of shit for that, man. And it's been great. It's elevated my brand.

It's elevated my platform. And it's just been dope. And just the free game that you get being associated with them. Oh yeah. Like hearing about like these dudes have been celebrities for 30 years. They've been in the spotlight almost as long as I've been alive. Geez. So like their experiences and when they tell you certain things you're like damn you come from a place of knowledge and like the last thing I know you want to wrap up soon, but like, you know, one thing, man, that I always pride myself on

and I feel like I do a really good job on is I always listen to older folks. Like when I was 28, my friend Ty was 35 at the time or 33. He was like, yo, bro, when you get to my age, if you stop podcasting, you're going to regret it. He's like, because I did because I was working on something and then I stopped and I regret it. So I always do a good job when I meet someone that's 42. But, yo, bro, you know what I wish I could have done at your age? Maybe save half my money or maybe invest half my money.

Now I'm like okay I respect him I know he's looking out for me I just feel like I've always done a good job of like people that are older than me I listen yeah I know it sounds so simple but it's like yeah I actually listen like yo you have a different perspective in your life that I haven't reached yet because I'm not your age so when there's a 40 year old friend that I have and he's because I'm not your age. So when there's a 40 year old friend that I have and he's like yo bro I wish I would have invested in fucking Google or some shit you should invest maybe in this or you

should maybe do that. It's like yo they're coming from a place of it's kind of like a time machine I look at it bro like they're already ahead and they're giving me free knowledge and free game and I've always prided myself on like all right man I'm gonna listen like you have an experience that I haven't experienced I love that dude great advice I just think that yeah yeah well we could we could wrap on that I just think that like you'll be open to that man because they got game they got years like if you think of how long a year is they have 10, 20, 30 years of experience in that field and it's just it's been a great dude that's fire

advice I was looking at my friend group the other day I'm the youngest one but by far like my friends are 10 years above my age on average yeah that's helped me a lot in business and life personally and professionally yeah dude like you know maybe you come across, and I hope you do one day, you come across a six, seven, eight figure deal and you have a friend that went through it and they're like, yo bro, I remember this in the contract, this fucked me over.

Because like you know, once your contract ends, they still own your IP. Like be careful with that, they fucked me up. You know like, it's free game and I know you have lawyers and attorneys but it's also, when it comes from that perspective too, it's the game, and I know you have lawyers and attorneys But it's also when it comes from that perspective too It's the best man and like you know the people you keep around and the people you interact with it doesn't always need to be About money and success like maybe you just need people to be like yo you're being a piece of shit there That's how I view my friends. Yeah, like all the people I keep in my circles

I go bro do me a favor and never wear that again on a show you look like a fucking clown Yeah, honestly and loyalty. Yeah, yeah, bro. Like, you know, I don't know if it's a New York thing or East Coast thing, but like, bro, when growing up, like my friends, and to this day, we say the wildest shit to each other. Like, my hair when I had Stephen A on the show,

my hair was like all fucked up. It looked like I had a toupee on, right? Yeah. So my friends were like, damn, bro, biggest interview of your career. It looks like you got a toupee on. I Yeah, so my friends were like damn, bro Biggest interview in Korea looks like you got a toupee. I love that. I was like damn You know, you're right. Come on, bro Like you killed that interview but like you got a like look sharp. Don't do that again, right? And that's that's the people I keep in my life. Yeah, you need that. I need that Nick. It's been cool

We'll link yourself below man. Thanks for coming on again. Always a pleasure, bro Thanks for watching guys. As always check them out below. Peace