Digital Social Hour - The Science Behind EMF & Aires Tech’s Game-Changing Solution| Aires Tech DSH #1366
Episode Date: May 8, 2025Discover the groundbreaking science behind EMF exposure and how Aires Tech is changing the game! 🌐 Dr. Dogris and Sean Kelly unpack the real impact of electromagnetic fields on your brain, heart, a...nd overall health. From EEG scans to heart rate variability tests, this episode dives deep into the physiological effects of EMF and reveals how Aires Tech’s innovative solution can help you stay balanced and optimized in today’s tech-filled world. 💡Learn about the fascinating data, the connection between EMF and anxiety, and why modern devices like phones, smartwatches, and even refrigerators are affecting us more than we realize. 📱⚡ Whether you're a skeptic or just curious, this episode is packed with valuable insights you won’t want to miss. Join the conversation and get the inside scoop on how Aires Tech is using cutting-edge technology to create healthier environments for everyone—from pro athletes to everyday users. 🏀💪 Don't miss out—watch now and subscribe for more insider secrets with Sean Kelly on the Digital Social Hour! 🚀📺CHAPTERS:00:00 - Intro00:28 - Brain Scan Results02:43 - How Josh and Dr. Dogris Met07:15 - Skepticism of Airestech Study10:37 - Heart Rate Variability Explained16:40 - Physiological Effects of EMF19:55 - Long-Term EMF Exposure Effects21:06 - Convincing Evidence of EMF and EMR22:18 - EMF Emitting Devices Overview23:10 - Everyday EMF Exposure26:26 - Impact of EMF on DNA29:44 - Brain Health and PEMF34:05 - EEG Analysis During Phone Exposure41:09 - Airing’s Partnership with Timberwolves44:02 - Reacting to Linus Tech Video48:50 - Why Blocking Products are a Scam52:30 - Understanding the Peer Review Process55:15 - Proactive EMF Management57:28 - How Airestech Works1:03:05 - Airestech Test Results Overview1:06:20 - EEG Results Explained1:13:20 - HRV Results Summary1:16:14 - Aires Tech Phone Protection Case Study APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: jenna@digitalsocialhour.com GUEST: Aires Tech https://airestech.com/https://www.instagram.com/airestech/ SPONSORS: NOTION: https://www.notion.com/dsh LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ The views and opinions expressed by guests on Digital Social Hour are solely those of the individuals appearing on the podcast and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of the host, Sean Kelly, or the Digital Social Hour team. While we encourage open and honest conversations, Sean Kelly is not legally responsible for any statements, claims, or opinions made by guests during the show. Listeners are encouraged to form their own opinions and consult professionals for advice where appropriate. Content on this podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only and should not be considered legal, medical, financial, or professional advice.#healthoptimizationframework #personalhealthrevolution #eegbiofeedback #quantumhealth #emfexposure
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about the impact on the DNA.
And we're running a longitudinal study now.
It's happening in real time.
It's happening in real time.
And data is starting to come out,
talking about the anxiety generation.
People in their 20s that have early exposure
to screens at a young age, or media at a young age,
stuff like that, and what was the impact.
All right, guys, Dr.
Dogers back and Josh here.
We got my brain scan results and we're going to talk about Aries tech as well.
Thanks for joining us guys.
Super grateful to be here, man.
Yeah.
Thank you for having us.
I just got hooked up the past hour.
I'd love to see what, uh, what happened here.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We can explain a little bit, uh, the setup, cause I think that will help.
Yeah.
But, uh, yeah, what we were looking for was we want to kind of establish what your brain
looked like.
And I'll let the doctor actually speak to this, but giving some context as to why we
work with, you know, people like Dr. Dogras and this specific test that we do really does
help people understand the really what's happening at the physiological
level and the neurological level. And then also how does the phone in let's say EMR,
EMF really affect that and disrupt that. And then demonstrating the effect that the Aries
product actually does to mitigate that. And I think that's really what we wanted to show
and why we work with Dr. Dogris and others to help us understand at a physiological level what's happening.
So maybe you explain how we set this up.
So what we did was an electroencephalogram.
It's a brain wave scan.
And the EEG is a great device for measuring the electrical output of the brain.
And so we put a 19 channel cap on your head
and we did three recordings.
The first was a baseline so we can just get an idea
of what you look like right when you walk in.
Second one was a recording after you had been exposed
to a live phone for five minutes.
The third one was another recording
after you had been exposed to a live phone
that had Aries protection on it.
And I conducted a comparison analysis
between these records to see what changed
from your baseline to the exposure.
And we also looked at your heart.
And we're looking at sympathetic
and parasympathetic activation and heart rate variability and so we have a pretty
Good analysis of your heart as well. Yeah, and for those watching we'll throw up the images on video and on audio
We'll put a link with all the photos
Okay, great. Yeah, so where would you like to start?
I think one thing I want to preface it with is
my
initial introduction to dr. Dogers was I needed someone to perform this test and
we always tell the story because I never met him and
we had hired the studio to come do of this production to like
Record what was happening and he didn't really actually know what was gonna happen.
Like we had one conversation and said,
here's what I'm looking for.
And the idea came from the fact that we had,
I was trying to replicate what we had already done
in the laboratory and in our clinical trials.
So I had already had, I don't know how many,
nine different peer-reviewed studies using EEG,
using heart rate variability in a wide,
ranging types of people, or test subjects.
And so from a storytelling standpoint,
I was thinking, can we just replicate this?
How hard is it?
And so making a few phone calls,
ended up finding my way to Dr. Dogris.
And so we show up in the studio,
and again, never met him, he shows up and to me,
he's like a rock star, right?
He shows up, he's got the hair, he's got the boots,
he's got the vibe.
And anyways, it was just an awesome day because we got to
test a bunch of different conditions,
a bunch of different people, really can kind of mirror
what we'd already done in the trials.
So I already knew the results we're gonna get,
but he didn't know.
And so he was getting really genuine reactions
and like as a scientist, he's, you know,
one question leads to another question, another question.
And so we've had the opportunity to work a lot together.
But I like to preface though is what we did today
is an experiment that we're just really mirroring
what we did in a very controlled environments. And once I learned that we could do this and we could do these demonstrations or these experiments with really anybody,
I mean, we've done these now.
I don't know how many people we've tested live and the results are have some variations to it,
but always positive.
And but it is interesting how different people respond to the cell phone or just EMF and
how dramatic it is.
And then, dramatic, but it can be in different ways.
So I kind of preface like, here's a little backstory.
Here's how we know each other.
He works, he runs really cool clinics.
I say really cool because the work that they do there.
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But we I work with him as a doctor, like we hire him as a doctor, as a researcher.
And he's not part of my company, but he's awesome to work with.
The last thing I'll say about to kind of set this up is Dr.
Dogers is unique in the fact that not only is he a doctor, but he runs a
company that actually manufactures the equipment and the software that does the
EEG. So it's FDA approved and that's how I that's really what I was looking for
when I was finding someone to assist was I need the highest quality that I can
find because I need the best data. I need the best person to do this.
But what's great about that is that overlap of physics and physiology, that kind of data,
the science aspect, plus what's happening at the physiological level. There aren't that
many people with the depth of knowledge. So it was a real blessing to be able to work
with Dr. Dogris because he knows both sides of that.
He understands EMF from a scientific perspective,
but also the physiological side as well.
So it's really cool.
So I'll stop there and let you run,
what did we learn today?
But to kind of dovetail into it,
I was very skeptical when I heard about Aries Tech at first.
And just by the nature of being a scientist,
I am that way all the time.
I've been in the neuroscience field now for almost 35 years.
I'm a licensed psychologist in the state of California.
I am the co-founder and owner of Neurofield Incorporated,
which is a company that manufactures EEG devices,
but we also manufacture neuro stimulation devices,
pulse electromagnetic stimulators,
photobiomodulation stimulators, light basically,
cranial electric stimulators.
So there's a number of different things that we use
to be able to rehabilitate the brain.
So I'm also, you know, as a psychologist
and a neuroscientist, we get a lot of people
in our Santa Barbara Clinic,
which is a neuro field neuro therapy.
And in that clinic, we see a wide variety
of different kinds of people with a wide variety of issues
from the very young to the very old.
So when Josh approached me at first, I thought,
you know, number one, I really care about the EEG field
and what it is that we bring to the table and for the healing people and helping people get better from a number of different
kinds of problems.
And so I'm protective of that because it is a modality that is really showing very strong scientific evidence
that is good for you and helpful.
And so, you know, in looking at Aries,
I was like, oh, do I want to do this or not?
You know, because of my, you know, my professional standing.
And in typically EMF devices that I had evaluated
prior to Aries were questionable.
Yeah, the stickers, right?
Yeah, well people would say,
well this is gonna shield you or it's gonna stop this
and we conducted experiments and it didn't,
you know, wasn't the case.
And so when we met the first time and you know,
it was blind, I ran, I think it was five different,
or four or five different scans.
And I was very, very surprised by the data.
And because I was the one that collected the data
using one of my devices, which is an FDA EEG cleared device
with FDA cleared software, which basically says
that you have something that's gonna measure the the brain and it's going to do it accurately and so yeah I was pretty
surprised and pleasantly surprised because I think that you know again we
develop a pulse electromagnetic stimulator but the difference between
that and what is out in the air around you is significantly different.
It's very low intensity.
It's designed to be more soothing and comforting to the body
as opposed to being harmful.
And so, you know, so today, in looking at your brain scans,
I could go right into...
Yeah, I think so.
Maybe we set up the different conditions
so people can kind of follow along
and then when we throw up the scans,
they're like, okay, this is baseline,
this is cell phone exposure,
which I think we maybe touched on that,
and then here's the cell phone exposure plus Aries.
Right, right.
Let's start with the heart.
Yeah.
Because I think this is really interesting stuff.
So the heart rate variability measure
is pretty accurate.
The heart's a metronome basically.
And the heart has different frequency bands.
There's what's called ULF, VLF, LF, and HF.
The LF and HF bands are of particular interest
because they represent the arms
of the autonomic nervous system.
The LF band is the sympathetic side
and the HF band is the parasympathetic side.
And so sympathetic is you're up, you're focused,
you're doing stuff, right?
Parasympathetic, you're laying back on a hammock,
you're relaxing, right?
So when you walked in on bassline,
those two bands were pretty equal to each other.
So the yellow and the green,
you were just a little bit more parasympathetic.
So it means you were relaxed.
Your heart rate variability score was 94.64 milliseconds.
Normal is 50.
People that have higher heart rate variabilities
from 50 to 100 are typically athletic.
And they work out and they get good cardio.
And so obviously you do that.
And so I saw that and I thought, okay, this is normal.
Good, we have a good baseline.
Now when we ran the first exposure,
you were exposed to a phone with no Ares protection.
And then this is.
To be clear, we weren't taking the reading
while the phone was active.
That's correct, yeah.
Yeah, because I think that one jumps out at us a lot.
People think that was what we did.
People always say, oh, it contaminates the recording.
Every recording we took, there was no active phone.
Yeah.
It was, you know, it was,
we only exposed you for a period of time,
then we shut off the phone and took it away from you.
So it's, the recordings are pure.
There's nothing to contaminate the recordings.
Also, I personally artifacted these recordings,
so I made sure that the data that is represented here
is actual brain and heart data, and not artifact,
which is another thing that can occur
that can make the data skewed essentially.
Okay, so what we see here, and this is really interesting,
is that the LF band, the sympathetic arm,
almost doubled as compared to the parasympathetic arm.
So this yellow bar here went really high
and which represents you being more vigilant. So this yellow bar here went really high,
which represents you being more vigilant.
And this is a profile that I have seen with first responders,
people diagnosed with PTSD and anxiety.
So it's obvious that this phone had an impact on you
that created a more sympathetic response in your heart.
That's the first observation.
And then when you did the second exposure
with the Aries present,
then we saw a different presentation with your heart.
And this is what we saw.
Now it flipped completely.
The parasympathetic activation goes off the scale,
and the sympathetic activation drops dramatically.
And that happened within a period of five minutes.
And so, all of us were sitting here watching this happen.
That's a big swing.
And you didn't appear to have any state change
or consciousness change.
You were awake, you weren't sleeping.
It was the same state in all three recordings,
in my opinion.
And so, and all done at the same time.
Notably, your heart rate variability spiked
when you were exposed to the phone
as compared to when you had Aries on.
It actually dropped to 74.98, which again is healthy.
It's a little less than your baseline rhythm,
but it's within variability, so it's pretty close.
It appears that the protection had an influence
on what your heart was doing.
Wow, that's impressive.
Yeah, I was gonna ask you,
people often comment when they see our content
or they read our studies and they wanna really understand
all the different controls and things like that.
And I have seen this now many times that we've done,
again, all the clinical stuff that we've done. And I'm and I'm always like, if I asked you to control
the different aspects of your heart or the different waves in the brain, like, would
you even know? Like, how would you even think about that? You know, when you sat here and
got tested, did you did you feel different from one to the next? Like, were you like,
actively trying to say, I've got to calm down or I got like, and I, and I always, you know,
we don't have a chance to talk to the test subjects in this environment.
So I'm curious your thoughts as you were going through that,
like what was going through your mind as you were navigating?
Yeah, I didn't feel any noticeable differences. Um, during the test,
he was saying to like loosen my jaw and to, um, kind of stay calm.
So I was sort of just thinking about that. But no, I didn't feel anything.
So to see it like that drastically on like the readings
is really wild to me.
Yeah, yeah.
But overall you weren't trying to like beat a test
of some sort because you didn't really know
what you were being tested for.
No, I didn't know what, yeah.
Yeah, typically prompts are given.
So I can see jaw or muscle artifact in the record
as we're recording.
And so it's not unusual during these kinds of recordings
to tell the person, okay, keep your jaw loose
or stay calm or, you know, give me periods of time
where you don't blink, that kind of thing.
And we try to keep the amount of direction to a minimum.
So occasionally in all three recordings,
I think I coach you in all three of them.
Just to make sure that we're getting good data.
Yeah, for me it's like pretty crazy to see with my own eyes
because you hear all these videos
about how EMF is bad for your body,
but I've never seen like actual results like this.
I think it's actually a really good point to say,
because the average healthy person
in real time is not always able to have a I guess a physical response like a negative physical response but it doesn't mean that it's not happening and so maybe speak to that like what's
we saw it's actually happening at a physiological level so what does that mean it's we're talking
really about a cumulative effect over time a compounding effect that's maybe occurring or, you know,
potentially a weakening of something that allows something more dramatic to actually.
So from your standpoint, what does it actually mean?
Because like you said, you don't really, you know, not everyone has this dramatic response.
Some people do.
They actually have a real physical response, but you would probably know on both both directions.
So like, you know, you had a negative response and then you that therefore you then know you had a positive response, but you would probably know on both directions. So like you would know you had a negative response,
and then you, therefore you'd then know
you had a positive response.
The average person isn't responding in that way.
So what is actually happening?
Yeah.
You know, it's interesting when you think about it,
it's a primitive response, you know,
when you're looking at the heart.
You know, the heart's picking up what's happening,
and it's responding to it in real time.
And that primitive response is if there's danger,
then you're gonna have a sympathetic response
in your environment.
And that sympathetic response is fight or flight.
Your blood flow's gonna get diverted to muscles,
your respiration might increase,
your body's gonna prepare for combat
or it's gonna prepare to run away.
And your brain's gonna get sharper,
it's gonna become more sympathetic
because there's danger present.
But when danger is not there, your body relaxes.
And so it's no surprise to me at all
that he goes into a parasympathetic response
because now the body's not threatened anymore.
So in my opinion, it's primitive.
It's outside of your real conscious awareness.
Yeah, interesting.
So you can't control it?
It would be very difficult too.
You'd have to be like an established meditator
to put yourself into a parasympathetic or sympathetic state.
But the sympathetic response is harder to gear up
unless you're a person that has trained to do that.
Like a monk, like a first responder for instance.
Oh yeah?
They're trained to be calm in stressful environments.
They will be sympathetically activated most of the time.
And that's not good for you.
Sympathetic activation is good if you need it to be on,
and you're threatened, you want your body
to be able to go into that state
so that you can protect yourself or run away,
have the natural response that's gonna be healthy.
But if you stay there,
it's kind of like driving a car in Redline.
The motor can only handle it for so long before it ceases.
And so your body, when it gears down,
your body is going to go into its housekeeping mode,
then it's going to start getting rid of toxins
and stuff in your bloodstream that shouldn't be there.
You eliminate stuff, right?
But you can't go into housekeeping mode
when you're in a sympathetic vigilance.
You stay in a vigilance mode.
Your body's using its resources,
and it's gonna continue to hold on to all the garbage
that should go out.
And over time, that will translate to illnesses.
Wow.
And yeah, because those kinds of toxins in your body
could, you know, they can impact all the systems
like your kidneys, liver your stomach your heart
Yeah, your brain all of them and eventually could turn into really bad, you know diseases
Yeah for me
It's eye-opening because I knew EMF kind of affected the brain
But I didn't know the heart as well and probably other organs to the whole body
Wow, the whole system is gonna get impacted
yeah, the way I was to describe it because I get these questions all the time and, and,
and science is like not helpful because there's, if you read this paper,
that's like, okay, it talks about oxidative stress.
This one maybe talks about blood brain barrier or, uh,
the cell communication, calcium channels, uh,
it's all sorts of things.
So there's clearly like a lot of different ways that EMF and EMR exposure,
you know, that is processed at a physiological level.
And, you know, maybe it's different for everybody, but there's definitely a
clear, uh, amount of stress that's occurring and how, what that looks like
over a long period of time is difficult to test as well.
Uh, but I do think the science is getting more and more
convincing of like, hey, this is something to be aware of.
Which is why I think you're seeing culturally
more people talking about it.
You saw it in the executive order
that the president signed in February,
where I think it was section four calls out
specifically connecting EMR exposure
to the disease epidemic in America.
It specifically calls it out like they want to do more research and learn more about that.
And so you are seeing it more in culture, like more awareness of EMR causing a problem.
And actually just talking to one of your team members here and they're talking about their
Apple watch.
Yeah.
And it's and I told them like.
Apple watch is one of the number one products that people find their way to us is their experience with the Apple watch.
And I don't really know why, but the Apple watch is one that is like the
gateway product to finding a solution.
And it was interesting because I see, I would say one out of three people
that I interact with almost always call that out.
Uh, cell phone is probably number one,
but I think it's the Apple watch or smartwatch
that I wanna pick on one brand or the other,
but smartwatches in general seem to be
a triggering product for some reason.
Yeah, and the doctor was telling me earlier about house,
there's so many devices that emit EMF,
not even just like the ones we know, like phones and stuff,
but he was saying a chair. Yeah, Yeah, isn't that crazy? Yeah. Yeah a motor in a chair will do it
Yeah, you know, that's one
A lot of appliances in your home hairdryers a big one, you know
Refrigerators are huge EMF generator Wow. Yeah, I didn't know that. Oh, yeah.rowaves too? Of course. Yeah. Microwaves are interesting
though because they're very well shielded. So because that's a different part of the
electromagnetic spectrum that is dangerous. So they do shield them more. It doesn't mean
that they're still not, I mean when you understand the physics of it, there is a amount of smog
that's generated in and around all of the devices.
But yeah, I mean, you really can't escape it.
We've been traveling, I've had this prototype
wearable EMF reader, and that is programmed
to tell you how much EMF your body is absorbing
and kind of where all your hotspots are,
but then gives you like a cumulative score over the day
and if you're at 100, that's what your allowable number is
based upon the current US guidelines, right?
And I'm pretty conscious of it obviously being in this space
and running this company.
I have not had a day that I'm not at 200%. Jeez.
It's wild.
And then we were at this Airbnb, this old home.
We were in South Carolina recording some content
with this doctor.
And I'm tripping out the whole time
because I'm in the middle of the living room
and this thing's beeping while I'm interviewing this guy.
And it's just beeping and I'm like, what is going on?
And then virtually every car, everyone picks
on the electric cars.
And again, I go back to like,
if you're building products that you know
are emitting a large amount of EMR,
you're typically shielding them.
Like electric cars are built pretty well with shielding
because they know that there's an EMF
that's outside of the government guidelines already.
So there's a fair amount of shielding.
It doesn't mean that they're safer than the other ones.
I'm just saying the obvious things actually are obvious to the manufacturer as
well. It's the, I would say it's the vehicles that are not electric.
When you're sitting in a normal,
like everyday vehicle that's been built in the last five years and you have an
EMF reader in there, I don't, it doesn't matter what's going on. It's buzzing.
Wow. It's pretty wild.
And you don't even know where it's coming from.
Is it the LTE from the car?
Is it the Wi-Fi from the car?
Is it the battery that charges your phone
by just setting up the induction charger?
What is it?
And it's pretty wild because you can't escape it.
So now you're in this metal box of just this energy field
that's impacting your body in a negative way.
And so when you think about chronic exposure, compounding over time, the time you spend
in the vehicle is a large part of everyone's day, especially young people, you know, which
I don't think we talk enough about, but young people, you know, every time we do this test
and the young people react pretty wildly.
The swings are pretty wild. Older people, I would say 45 and older,
just anecdotally I see they swing,
but it's a slower rise up and a slower rise down and maybe not as sharp.
And again, that's just anecdotal from the stuff that we've done. Um,
but young people, it's pretty wild.
I wonder what's causing that.
We're just exposed to more devices maybe.
I think it's maybe the age at which
it was present in your world,
and then always on and then growing up always connected.
And if you look at the curve of wireless technology
in our environment, it's been exponential.
Like. Since the 1990s. It's been exponential. Like.
Since the 1990s.
Since the 1990s.
It's a curve that's like a crazy straight up line.
Because you know, we pick on the phone a lot
because it's so close to you and it is, does emit a lot.
But your vacuum is a robot vacuum.
It's like wireless technology and your refrigerator
and your washer and dryer and everything is.
It makes me wonder about the impact on the DNA.
And we're running a longitudinal study now.
Not my company, but in life around the world, right?
It's happening in real time.
It's happening in real time.
And data is starting to come out
talking about the anxiety generation.
And people in their 20s that have early exposure
to screens at a young age, social media at a young age,
stuff like that, and what was the impact.
But if you look at EMF exposure,
the first cohort to be exposed to it
probably didn't have too much of a response
because they didn't have any previous responses.
But DNA is smart.
It knows how to adapt.
The body's adaptive.
So if it's put in a state where it's in danger,
it's going to respond and it's going to change itself
to be able to survive.
An example of that is, unfortunately,
is like the alcohol abuse in the United States.
If you look at Native American populations,
it was discovered in the 1980s, basically,
that there was a very strong alcohol issue
in the Native American culture.
And there's abusive alcohol
and then there's dependency in alcohol.
Your brain creates dopamine and when you drink alcohol,
dopamine sees alcohol as a poison, it doesn't like it.
And so if you drink too much, you get sick, right?
But if you drink to dependence, not abuse,
but dependence where if you don't have it,
you have a withdrawal or a seizure,
or your body's gonna react to it.
The body is smart.
It goes, whoa, you want me to get good with this.
So now I'm not gonna make dopamine for you anymore.
It mutates it genetically
and creates a new neurotransmitter called THIQ.
Now THIQ does the exact opposite of what dopamine does.
It doesn't reject alcohol. it wants more, right?
So it would make sense to a substance
that the body responds to it,
it changes genetically to adapt and survive.
So what's gonna happen with this EMF exposure
that we have been subjected to
and continue to be exposed to
with Wi-Fi, 5G, you know, electro smog around us,
our bodies are going to respond.
My biggest concern is when I see data like this,
that you have a very high sympathetic response,
your body doesn't do the housekeeping.
I think it's gonna give rise to more anxiety.
I think it's gonna give rise to more systemic illnesses.
I think it's gonna give rise to some bizarre stuff
that we haven't seen before,
like strange autoimmune stuff
and sensitivities that make people look crazy
because they're going,
God, I'm reacting to everything around me.
And as a psychologist, I raise an eyebrow
and go, well, is this real or not?
And it's starting to look pretty darn real.
And that's scary.
And based on the numbers and the science,
we have some data right here that is showing us
something that we should pay attention to.
Yeah.
That's concerning.
Do you want to hit some of the brain stuff? So we talked about the heart, which is good, that is showing us something that we should pay attention to. Yeah. That's concerning.
You want to hit some of the brain stuff.
So we talk about the heart, which is good,
because we don't actually talk about the heart stuff
all that frequently.
A lot of stuff we don't think the UFC is,
I don't know if it's opposite,
but they'll usually come in in that vigilant state
because they're kind of always on, right?
They're programmed to always be on.
And we see that with the athletes where they're dialed
and they have a hard time coming down off of that.
A lot of Houston, the first responders look like that as well.
So the work we're doing with the UFC is similar in the fact
that the ability to turn it off and relax
and clean the system out like he's described
seems to be kind of a consistent theme
from the tests that we've done there as well. So it's kind of fascinating.
It runs the gamut of all the different variations, but it's consistent with the lifestyles that
we see too.
So the basketball player, the pro ball player was head of the Olympics this summer from
Canada that we tested.
Same thing.
I think he had a practice, I don't know if it was a practice, it was an off day, but
they were gearing up to play the US
and he came in just dialed, like super focused.
And, but he had kind of this issue where
being able to come off of that.
So how does he relax?
How do they come off sleep?
All these different things don't become effect.
The downstream effects of that really start to pile up.
Right.
That's interesting.
Yeah.
And also when you travel, you're just absorbing a ton of EMF too, right?
When you're flying and going everywhere.
Yeah, I-
Yeah, think about it on an airplane.
How many cell phones are on an airplane?
We were talking about this, you know?
You got 175 seats, at least 150 are holding phones.
You know, in a very confined space.
Yeah. Right? And all of them are talking to one router are holding phones, you know, in a very confined space.
And all of them are talking to one router or two routers on that plane.
That's a lot of concentrated energy.
I can tell you for sure, having a company
that develops pulse electromagnetic stimulators,
we did a lot of research to determine
what would actually make your brain change.
Right?
And, you know, of course, the goal here is to be able to do it in a healthy way and to
cause no harm.
Well, one of the things that we know in neuroscience is that heat is dangerous to cells.
Right?
You heat up the brain, you're going to cause cellular death.
That's not good. Right? You heat up the brain, you're gonna cause cellular death. That's not good. Right?
So when we did our first experiments, I designed, with the help of my engineers,
a device that actually is capable of delivering low frequency, low intensity EMS stimulation
for the sole purpose of increasing blood flow.
If you gently stimulate a cell, it will call for resources.
So you get capillary dilation,
increased blood flow in the region,
and you can reduce inflammation in the brain
and bring it more of what it needs
to be able to function correctly.
Because it's the best doctor in the room, right?
And so we were like, okay, this is a cool idea,
we wanna do this.
But when we started to really look at it,
the device actually created a field
that was less than what you get
when you look in your refrigerator looking for food.
Okay, so I was thinking, okay, that's pretty good, right?
These things are creating a field
that is significantly stronger than that, right?
And it creates heat.
And prolonged exposure over time
is going to impact those structures.
And we know there's research now that shows
that the temporal lobes begin to get degraded
as a result of cellular exposure.
Holding the phone up to your head is not a good idea.
It is shown to be. And air pods are worse,? Well, they're a lesser of two evils. Oh, they're not as bad
They're not as bad. Okay, but the you know, a lot of people just
On that one definitely seems to be like an intuition about the air pods like I know it's harming me, but they're so convenient
All the time yeah, yeah still Bluetooth and that's what you got to be careful with and then it's harming me, but they're so convenient. It's still Bluetooth. It's still Bluetooth. I see it all the time in the show.
It's still Bluetooth, and that's what
you've got to be careful with.
And then it's also, wired is the next one,
and then speaker's the best.
That's the way.
Hands-free is the best way to go.
Yeah.
Well, the good news is now they could just wear some Aries
and still have those.
If we want to look at those, maybe talk
through some of the other observations.
Sure, yeah, let's talk about the brain scan.
Yeah, so this is pretty interesting stuff.
So we have a baseline scan, and then we,
and so what I did was I ran a comparative analysis
looking at the baseline versus the first exposure
with no protection to see if there was any differences there.
And there are.
And you had the phone up to your right temporal lobe
when you did the scan.
And when we look at delta here in your baseline,
the power level of the delta activity
in the right temporal lobe dropped significantly.
We set the p-value at probability level at.001.
And so, statistics significance is usually at.05.
But this is ultra conservative setting.
And it was significant at T4 and C4 here
on your right temporal lobe.
There's a big drop in delta.
And as I look at this,
it looks like delta activity came down
in your frontal lobe as well.
That was with the cell phone?
That was with the cell phone.
So the exposure definitely triggered your brain.
And let's see here as I look at it.
And we do see an elevation in gamma activity.
So gamma is a emergent waveform that appears in the brain
when it needs to send information.
And that information is sent between multiple systems
or hub systems in your brain.
Gamma is typically measured between around 40
to about 150 cycles per second or hertz.
And when I look at this scan here,
the brain map on the left here shows your baseline.
The one in the middle is what you look like
when you were exposed to the phone with no protection.
And the one on the right shows a red or black electrode.
If the electrode is colored in red,
it means it's statistically significant difference
from pre to post.
And in this case, all 19 electrodes in the gamma range
increased significantly.
Wow.
All 19, 100%.
So what does that mean to him in real life?
So if when beta goes up like this and gamma goes up like this,
you start to experience, you know, it's fast.
It can create anxiety.
That's one of the things that can happen.
You could get really lucid, you know, you could get really clear for a period of time.
But again, it's driving the car in red line. And what we have found is that typically it's gonna create,
it can create ruminations, perseverations,
obsessive kind of thinking,
anticipation of other events that are gonna occur, fear.
Fear is like the root of anxiety.
So, but typically it's gonna create
an anxious response.
That's what we see here.
So, delta's your brake pedal, right?
So, delta going down and the higher frequencies going up
is not a good combination.
A healthy brain is a balanced brain.
So, when you look at all the frequency bands
that the brain creates, delta, theta, alpha, beta,
high beta, gamma,
you wanna see a nice distribution of that, right?
With alpha being the predominant amount of brain wave
that you should see in a resting state, right?
Well, it did come up, but everything came up here.
So the distribution wasn't a healthy increase.
That's what we saw from baseline to the first one. And then when we actually have the Aries product on,
what interestingly enough happened is your Delta evened out
and the Alpha came up in your frontal lobe.
And it really did come up in a healthy way,
both frontally and occipitally,
so in the back of your head as well.
Yeah, that's good.
So let's talk about that,
because that was when we were off camera,
we were talking about alpha.
It's unique in some instance,
so talk to us about that.
So people with different kinds of disorders
don't produce a lot of frontal alpha,
or temporal lobe alpha.
And in your case, it did come up.
And so people diagnosed with autism or ADHD,
or those kinds of diagnoses,
the power levels are typically lower in those populations.
It's one of the profiles that we see here.
Now, when you look at the baseline here
and you look at the impact of no protection with Aries on,
Aries actually seemed to restore the power level
in your right temporal lobe.
Wow.
Yeah, it actually brought up the power level.
And so, well, it didn't do it, your brain did it.
It may have protected you so that it wasn't being pushed down.
So, you know, when you have that phone up there,
your brain's responding to it,
and if something's mitigating that exposure,
then your brain's gonna go back to functioning normally.
Your editor's gonna have fun putting all these screenshots
up chasing him around with the language, but I think in summary though, and I'm not functioning normally. Your editor's gonna have fun putting all these screenshots
up chasing him around with the language.
But I think in summary though,
like I said, it's consistent with the other things
we've seen.
It's unique in his own case.
Yeah.
And I think that alpha one is interesting.
But I kind of, we've done this a lot now,
and sometimes it's hard because
what does it actually mean to you?
Like, how does it affect your life?
And again, part of the time we don't even know, right?
But you also don't know that a negative thing
is occurring either.
And so again, you don't know until something breaks.
And that's kind of what Dr. Dobris
has educated me a little bit on,
is because I get frustrated sometimes
because I am a healthy person for the most part. Um,
and I don't know that EMF or EMR is affecting me on a day to day basis.
Right. But when you see the data, you're like, well,
I don't want to live like that either. So if I'm trying to live optimally,
and you know, I'm doing all these other things, I'm drinking my, you know,
hydrogen water, I'm drinking, I'm doing all these other things. I'm drinking my, you know, hydrogen water.
I'm drinking, I'm getting red light therapy or cold therapy,
whatever all these different modalities that you're testing and trying.
I position Aries for a lot of people as this is another way to just optimize the environment
around you that we're spending so much time in.
Like, think about where you're sleeping.
Right.
You mentioned, you know, you do things to optimize optimize sleep and most people do these days because
it's such a problem. Sleep is such a problem and nobody's pointing to the cell phone as much,
except for athletes. I will tell you athletes know they're the first ones that will tell you
the cell phone is out of the room or turned off completely. Almost every athlete that's had a long career will tell you they have a strategy around
mitigating EMF and EMR exposure.
Wow.
And it's like you read Tom Brady's book, you read Novak's book, all these guys have a strategy
around this.
And because I think there's a sensitivity to it.
And when you're an athlete, you're super tuned to all the inputs
You know what's happening in your environment. So
You know, we we think of Aries as a way to optimize your environment to clear your environment
We the we we did that deal with the Timberwolves for example and created the first
EMF friendly
Arena in the world with with the Timberwolves.
About the whole arena?
The whole arena.
Well, we're working on, we have the concourse.
We have most of the areas with a media room.
We have the draft room, which I'm super stoked on
because you have the NBA draft coming up.
We have a war room will be EMF.
They need an interior designer in there first.
That's why I keep telling them.
I go in here and I feel like I'm in a casino.
But yeah, we have EMF, you know, our product in there to mitigate the EMF, their training
rooms and things like that.
So we're continuing to roll it out.
But what's interesting was during the arena, you see these 5G base stations that say millimeter
wave on them.
Like they're giant too.
And they're like very visible.
And I had this weird thought, I'm like, it's so interesting that like, as humans and users of technology, we'll do everything to increase our bandwidth.
Like, if you measure my bandwidth, I'm like mad.
Right? But we're not thinking about the optimization on the biology side.
And so that's what's really cool about this is we're able to kind of manage both the bandwidth and still optimize for that, while also protecting the biology side.
And I think that's what's really cool
about this ARIE certified space stuff that we're doing
with the Timber Wolf is kind of our first big moment.
The stuff we do with like the UFC
and the performance Institute, which is here in Vegas.
Just the idea of like, lighting is becoming a big deal.
Like circadian lighting.
And again, your environment, what are we doing
to enhance and optimize our environment?
And then temperature control, even when you're sleeping.
It's all these different things that we think about,
air filters and water filters to optimize our environment.
And I think of Aries as another one of those things
to improve the environment that we're functioning in.
And not, we get that that we're functioning in and not we get you know,
obviously we're this idea of this protection product as well. I just think that's a that's
sometimes a negative connotate. Like you automatically think, okay, if I need protection,
that means something negatives happen to me. And I don't think most healthy people think that way.
I think they're like, how do I just feel better, get better, optimize? And I think that's a better way to look at our technology
and what we do is it's really giving your body
the best chance at doing everything very, very well.
Right?
And so it's eliminating the things that are harmful,
but more than anything, it's creating the best
electromagnetic environment for your body to function in.
Yeah, I love that.
So that being said, when you saw the Linus Tech video,
what do you think was going on there?
Cause that seemed to be a hit piece.
I don't know what exactly happened.
Yeah.
You know, that stuff always like,
that initial response when you get attacked in that way
is like, you get emotional, you get upset.
My initial reaction though was like, he's really good.
Like his content production, his storytelling. You can't deny that. You can't deny that. And I was like, dude, he's really good like his content production is storytelling
You can't deny that you can't deny and I was like dude. This is really good. He's funny, too
and I thought it was really funny what what uh then I kind of take a step back and I kind of assess things and
Right away that the fact that he tested us as if we were blocking EMF
I was just like I felt I'm like, that you're completely like off the mark.
Like we don't block.
Like our whole business model is around the ability
to continue to function in an environment
where EMF is present.
Because blocking it is a task that you will,
it's something you will never win.
You will never win that battle.
And he was using, I think, an EMF reader,
and he had all this production value that was really cool,
but at the end of the day, it was just wrong.
It was just straight up like, not what we do.
But part of me also is empathy,
because I think a lot of people approach it that way
with a lack of understanding,
because we are talking about complex physics
and wave interactions that it's just not the average.
Most people don't have that level of knowledge to even understand wave theory
and the physics behind EMF and EMR, let alone what's happening at the biological
and physiological level.
So, or even the psychological level.
Like, so that inner, that inner, the way that he approached it was just very simplistic
and completely wrong.
And I felt bad about that because I don't know him personally.
But I actually do, if he spent the time and we did a test with him, like we did with you,
or, you know, I'm like, talk to, you know, our, our head of photonics and the universities
that that helped develop these things, for decades by the way,
and have a conversation with them,
because he's a smart guy too,
a lot of smart guy.
And he realized that actually,
he potentially prevented people
from getting the relief that they needed,
because there are a lot of people
that are hypersensitive to EMF,
and you see a lot of people in your practice
where EMF is a real problem and Aries is
a legitimate solution that actually helps people.
I just have some empathy there.
And I think a lot of work, we're, we're, we're popular.
People know us in this space at least I should say.
So when you're in that seat, I expect it.
Uh, I, it was unfortunate because I also like he has the platform to actually do good.
And I think with the right information, I actually believe he would do good.
And so my hope is some, you know, at some point, uh, we have the chance to
actually set the record straight, but at the same time, like, you know, he's,
he's in the business of creating content that entertains and gets, gets people
to watch.
And he did that.
So he accomplished his goal, for sure.
Yeah, I hope you guys can mend the bridge one of these days.
If he took this test and saw results, I think he might change his mind.
Yeah, I also think that in our space, this category of EMF protection,
which is again, I try to work on the language and how we kind of move away from that idea
of EMF protection because, truthfully,
there are a lot of bad players.
So I actually understand, like I'm very empathetic,
like I know where people are coming from.
I understand the skepticism because there are a lot
of bad players, mostly bad players.
There's $5, yeah, stickers on Amazon,
100%. EMF protection stickers.
Or the idea of even blocking, like I actually have
a really hard time with the blocking products,
or anyone
that's using the SAR testing. There's a particular laboratory in Southern California that pretty
much anybody can go to and get a test done and they'll almost always produce a positive
result for you. And the idea is, is you have your test subject here, you have your source
of EMF here and you put something in the middle of it,
and it's this linear action that's occurring, and of course it's going to block, or it's going to
mitigate in some way, but that's actually not the world that we live in. Like, EMF is all around us,
it's three-dimensional. So when you think about blocking, so for example, you buy a phone case
that says it blocks, you put it up to your head, it's actually amplifying the EMF and it's reflecting it
because it's on both sides of the wall,
but it's reflecting off of it.
So if it truly is blocking,
it's actually gonna amplify the, like a backboard,
like you're throwing a ball,
the backboard's coming back at you.
Has nowhere to go except back again.
So you're actually amplifying it. And I would tell people if you really think
that you're blocking products or working,
your cell phone would stop working.
You know, I have a big issue with the blockers.
Yeah.
You know, I mean, our EEG amplifier,
in order to get FDA cleared,
you have to do electrical safety testing.
And part of that testing is EMC testing.
So you get electromagnetic, you know,
and they're looking for leakage and all sorts of stuff.
And, you know, they're, in talking to these engineers,
you know, we have RF engineers that, you know,
my guy's over 30 years of experience doing it,
and we talked about blockers, and he kinda laughed,
he goes, it's the biggest scam out there.
He said, because there's only certain kind of metals
that will actually block it,
and the US military has those metals.
That's something that's easily accessible
by the general population or companies,
and it's incredibly expensive.
So a blocker is going to probably not exist,
or when people say they're using something,
there's only certain kind of metals that'll stop EM.
And other than that, mm-mm.
You know?
It goes through everything.
Seamlessly, it goes through your brain seamlessly.
It goes through your skull seamlessly.
People get on board with blocking
because logically they can explain it to themselves.
They understand blocking.
But the reality is, even if, let's say you're wearing a hat that that quote unquote blocks.
Well what happens, because EMF is all around me, so what's happened as it's in my body
and conducting because your body's electric and that energy is being produced and running
through your whole body and then now you have a lid on it, where is it going?
Like it's going back down again.
Like it's just, it's a interesting concept
that is easy to sell, I think.
And so I do caution people on that
because the other thing you'll notice too
is if you have a blocking case or a bag
or whatever you put your phone in, how hot that gets.
There's a reason why it gets so hot
because the technology is sophisticated enough
where it starts to concentrate the signal,
and it intensifies it because it's trying to get signal.
So the tower is intensifying,
and your phone's intensifying, trying to get signal.
That's why your phone is heating up.
And so now you have actual temperature from the phone,
regardless of EMF, but just the phone itself getting hot, which if you're talking about let's say a mail and your phones in your pocket getting hot
Any change in temperature to that region will impact?
Your your reproductive system. Yeah, and that's and that's known right?
I mean your body's built to actually adapt to heat changes and things like that and even a degree or two
Impacts that we talked about the brain already. So any change in temperature built to actually adapt to heat changes and things like that. And even a degree or two impacts that.
We talked about the brain already.
So any change in temperature, regardless of the source
of temperature or why it's changing,
will have a negative impact.
And so I just think people should
be very cautious on blockers.
And that's not me trying to promote my own product.
I'm just saying we're big advocates
on doing your own research.
And we're a publicly traded company.
You can find us using the ticker symbol Wi-Fi.
That's a good ticker.
I say that because it's kind of funny actually, but we're very transparent because we are
public.
Most of these other companies, well almost every company in the wellness space doesn't
have to go through the amount of regulation and scrutiny that we do. And so I can't say certain
things, I can't do certain things. So we put a lot of information out there on how to help
people educate themselves, whether they buy our product or not, I just want them to have
the education. So to me, talking about the blocking, it's such an easy thing to get tricked into. Or some of these
other products that have third party validation or things like that. Third party validation
is maybe like the low level of science and maybe you can speak to science and papers
and things like that. You know, we go through the peer reviewed process, the peer reviewed, then published
process, and then we had to do it all again in different countries because we're traded
in the US, Europe and Canada.
And so ours has been rigorously and like the scrutiny on our stuff has been pretty great,
three years and millions of dollars just to get through that process, let alone build
the product and technology.
So I know what we've gone through.
And so we put it all out there.
Like our patents are out there,
which by the way just got the US patent granted officially.
So we're super stoked on that.
But yeah, so I just like to do your research.
People need to really understand that.
Understand the problem too.
Well, you know, it's again, you know,
if you have a blocker,
the heart is a electromagnetic device.
You can measure a human heart from across a room.
There's so much power that comes out of the heart.
And so this mechanism here is capable of detecting
energy around you.
So if you're thinking that this thing's gonna block
everything that's around you,
and your heart is constantly, you know,
I think energetically our bodies are interacting
with our environment all the time, you know?
And so it just isn't logical
that a blocker is gonna stop all that.
Yeah.
I've seen that theory that we have these energy fields,
right, have you guys seen that?
Where it expands like five to 10 feet? Yeah. I don seen that theory that we have these energy fields, right, have you guys seen that?
Where it expands like five to 10 feet?
I don't know if it's that far.
I've seen, there's a company that's actually out of Russia,
a doctor created this device called BioWell,
and I really dig it because it's a camera
that can take pictures of your fingers,
and it actually shows the light field that's camera that can take pictures of your fingers. And it actually shows the light field
that's coming out of each one of your fingers.
And it's pretty wild.
But so he constructed this theory about,
it's based on acupuncture points.
Each of the fingers is gonna correspond
to different parts of the body.
And they construct this three dimensional map
of your body, and they construct this three-dimensional map of your body field, essentially.
And people say that it's anywhere from six to 12 inches.
That's what they say in terms of what's emanating from us.
There's not a lot understood about it.
And I'd love to see science go in that direction
because we're gonna have to.
You know, I don't think that, you know, obviously any of this technology is gonna go away. It's
gonna continue to grow and it's become our mainstay. It's what we use all the time, Dan.
Yeah, well now they're talking about 6G, right? That's like the next one.
Yeah, that's, you know, and so I think, you know, instead of being scared about it,
we should be proactive about it and come up with ways to be able
to create healthy environments.
This is one of the ways to do that.
And that's why I'm here, because I'm interested in that.
And my patient population has done better because of that.
And so I've seen it from a scientific point of view,
and now I've seen it from a clinical point of view and now I've seen it from a clinical point of view.
And, you know, when a person can relax more,
that has an anxiety disorder, man, are they thankful.
Absolutely.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, the space is littered with a lot of bad players,
a lot of misleading information, a lot of pseudoscience,
a lot of just kind of trickery.
And so I'm very conscious of that.
And trying to surround myself with more and more professionals that are in feet on the
ground, working with patients, dealing with this, integrating our product and getting
real-time feedback from them is really a big part of what we do.
Working with people like the UFC, by the way, we had to do a lot of work with the Performance
Institute.
It wasn't like we showed up there and it was just like, oh yeah, come bring, you know,
whatever.
It's not like that.
And so, I mean, you actually went with me to the Performance Institute.
We sat with Duncan French and Roman and these guys that run this have a massive responsibility.
We did some really cool tests with them
to really demonstrate in a more sophisticated way
than what we did today,
and to really help them understand,
I think a lot of things, not just about our product,
but also just how the body works on a frequency level.
And so as you were saying, like getting, doing more of that,
and there's a lot of products out there.
The PMF mats, the grounding mats.
The FDA has approved EMF products for boned and wound healing
for decades.
So it's not like a new thing.
Bone and muscle stimulators.
Interesting.
And there's, well, EMF is transcranial magnetic stimulation as well for the brain.
So it's been around for a long time.
And so the only thing I would ask you, like, you know, while I'm here, because a lot of
people do ask us, like, how it works if, because we've had some conversations in the past.
You've talked to my team.
But if that's of interest to you, I can give you a quick overview of that because I know
that what separates us, what makes us different.
But you tell me what information.
Yeah, let's end off with that and we'll end off with closing comments from the doctor. Let's do it. Cool, cool. review of that because I know that what separates us, what makes us different, but you tell me what information.
Yeah, let's end off with that and we'll end off with closing comments from the doctor.
Cool, cool. Yeah, so, you know, the one thing I would really kind of call out right away
is this is a technology and so we're actually using a similar technology to how EMF is created,
how it's transmitted, how it's processed and converted into usable information.
Our product is very similar in the fact that we're using
a silicon resonator or a semiconductor,
which is at the center of it.
And when you see it, you can hold it up
and you can actually see different shapes
emitting from that center resonator.
And what those are are fractals.
So it's a fractal design and fractals are a geometric
phenomenon that allows essentially infinite scale.
So without increasing area.
Has like essentially an infinite perimeter
that's not exactly accurate, but the idea being like there's a really cool video it's like three minutes long from MIT this girl explaining
fractals this idea that you can just keep zooming in zooming like a snowflake it just
repeats the shape over and over and over again.
And so the reason why I use fractals and fractal antennas have been around for a long time
and that's how cell phones communicate.
It's how you can get broadband communications
across many, many signals.
So our fractal takes the ambient EMF
that's emitted by our technologies,
and since silicon is extremely conductive,
it's super sensitive to the electricity,
that energy has to go somewhere.
So as it's interacting with this semiconductor center,
here, this resonator,
it's reshaped to create a stable field. So it's re-emitted.
So again, the energy has to go somewhere.
It's absorbed by this silicon wafer here,
then re-emitted into a shape that we've designed
based upon the specific geometry.
So now you have this field that's created
that is tuned specifically over a wide range of frequencies
that the body's resonating with,
and it's stable, it's coherent, and it's depolarized.
So what that means is as it's interacting now
with this man-made EMF, it's able to spread that energy
over a wider range of frequencies
while also stimulating the body's own frequencies.
So it's kind of a dual effect of the reduction
in the ambient EMF and also the,
because it's really pulsing is a really a big problem too
with the manmade EMF from our technologies.
So to be able to distribute over a wide range of frequencies
really diminishes the effect.
And then through a bunch of other processes of destructive interference and constructive
interference, it changes that overall field.
And then at the same time, there has a tuning effect within the body's own field.
So that's why you see in a lot of these tests that we do or these demonstrations that oftentimes
you improve over baseline is because it's actually having a resonant effect at the physiological level in addition to mitigating that that interference that's occurring.
So that's a really rough overview, but there's a whole bunch of scientific principles layered in there that are well understood.
There really is no mystical or woo woo science about what we do. It's pretty basic. It's a printed circuit board with a specific geometric
pattern on there that modulates frequencies
and diffracts the waves to reduce the effect
and then re-emits it.
So I think people try to make it more complicated
than it really is.
Not saying that physics isn't complicated,
but they wanna make it more mystical
because so many of the products, I think,
play in that space, if that makes sense.
Yeah, I can see that.
Dr., any closing comments?
Well, you know, just to kind of dovetail into that,
it's interesting, the body does not respond well
to square waves, we know that.
Actually, we developed a 15 kilohertz biphasic square wave
that we use for vagus nerve stimulation
and for cranial stimulation.
And it has one purpose, to disrupt the system.
And if it's used in a very low frequency,
it can disrupt the system enough
so that it actually resets itself.
Now, when you see a disruptive system
and we look at it in the spectra, in the EEG,
we can see what it looks like.
And when we look at these scans
and we see the ARIES effect,
the spectra actually gets more organized.
It doesn't get more destructive. It doesn't get more destructive.
It doesn't get more diffuse essentially,
but it gets sharper.
That's what happened with you.
And so, I'm looking at this alpha peak here
and I'm going, oh, this is really great.
It took you in the direction you need to go,
not in the one that's going to make it more difficult
for you to function. right? I love it
Well, thanks so much guys. I was really insightful and we'll link areas in the description people. Yeah into it
Yeah, we appreciate you man. I love the work that you're doing. Absolutely. Thanks guys, and I'll see you at a WrestleMania
Yeah
So we conducted a test with Mr. Sean Kelly. We have three conditions.
Condition number one was baseline, where we measured his brain using a FDA cleared electroencephalogram
made from the company Neurofield Incorporated called the Q21.
Also used an FDA cleared software called neurofield analysis to
measure his brain. This is the result of the comparison from this test. In the
first condition we took five minutes of brainwave data just to have a baseline.
Then we stopped the EEG device and we called his phone and we had him hold the
phone up to his right ear for approximately five minutes. And then we ended the call, took the phone away, and
then started the EEG measurement again and measured five more minutes of brainwave data.
Upon completing that recording, we called his phone again, but this time we played, we placed an Ares device on his phone and had him hold
it up to his right ear again. And we did so for five minutes. At the end of that five
minutes, we ended the call, took the phone away, and then measured the brain again. It's
important to note that the phone was taken away during the EEG recordings so as to ensure that there was no artifact that
could distort the signal or change the data that we
were measuring.
So what you're seeing here is a comparison
from the first exposure with no ARIES device on the phone
to the second exposure where there is an ARIES device on the phone to the second exposure where there is an ARIES
device.
So the P1PRI is the phone with no protection and the live call with no protection and that's
the purple line and the green line is the phone with protection.
Now as you look at these plots you'll notice these little spectrum. It says spectrum and FP1, FP2. These are all site locations from the EEG cap. We use the
International 1020 system to identify the sites and so you see F3, F4. The F
stands for frontals and then there's central, parietal, occipital, temporals.
Now in this recording, on the horizontal axis you'll
see little black hash marks in the axis there. Any part of the axis that is
painted in black represents a statistical significant difference
from pre to post at the probability level set at 0.001, which is a very conservative setting to distinguish
change statistically. And one of the notable things that we saw here from
pre to post almost immediately is that in the 10 Hertz band, which is the alpha
band, there is a significant increase in in alpha from pre to post and remember
this post represents that the Ares device was present and the pre is not so
it suggests that there's a you know obviously a huge difference here right
afterwards and typically when somebody has an exposure to a cell phone the same trend
continues to happen. You don't see a sharp increase in alpha from pre to post in these kinds of
conditions. You're also seeing some varied increases in the higher frequency bands as we look at this.
So if I go through every one of the site locations, this is central three and four,
right and left side of the head here,
we have significant increases in power
across the board from pre to post,
suggesting that something did change here
when the ARIES device was placed on the phone.
Now having a good healthy amount
of frontal alpha in a resting condition like this is very good. It's our idling
frequency that we make when we just relax and so a deficiency in alpha can
be associated with you know issues like anxiety, focus, concentration issues.
There can be all sorts of issues that are associated with that. Also neurodegenerative and neurodevelopmental issues are also
associated with deficiencies in alpha. So when we look down the midline here
again, every one of the plots shows this market increase. Now another way of
looking at this is also in the head maps. Now the
brain creates a whole bunch of different frequencies and these are speeds. Delta
is in the 1 to 4 Hertz band and represents a frequency that's very slow.
Typically you make Delta when you sleep, but you also make it when you're awake.
All these frequencies are made all the time, but they are state dependent.
So if you have an excess in delta, when your eyes are open, that can create brain fog,
difficulty with concentration, attention, focus, same with theta.
So these are top down views here with the nose being in the front, right ear, and then left here. And what you see here is the map on the left here is the phone exposure
with no Aries present. And the second one is a phone exposure with the Aries device
on the phone. The map on the right is the statistical comparison. If the electrode is
colored in red, that means it met the probability cutoff of 0.001 and
was significantly different from pre to post.
If the electrode is in black, that means it is not significantly different at the 0.001
level.
Now, it might be significant at 0.01 or 0.05, which is still considered statistically significant. Now we set the
bar pretty high here because we really want to kind of challenge and see
whether or not we actually see big differences. And one of the notable
changes here is that with the amount of Delta here drops when the Aries device
is on the phone and it's right in the frontal lobes
here.
You can see these electrodes here are colored in red.
There's a pretty significant drop in power in the Delta band.
If you look at this legend here, what this represents is microvolts.
So these are very tiny amounts of power that come out of the brain,
millions of a volt basically. And so if you look at the color on the legend, you can get an idea
that the redder it is, the higher the power it is, the bluer it is, the lower the power.
So it looks like, you know, you can see that the phone was over the right temporal lobe,
and you can see that there's a pretty big difference here in the amount of delta that
was produced from pre to post when a person has their eyes open and they have phone exposure.
The Theta band also had this very similar type of finding here that the Aries device may
have been associated with a decrease in both the Delta and Theta that was, you know, in
one way or another mitigated when the device is on the phone.
Interestingly, like I noted before, the amount of alpha power goes up.
And you can see that it's global.
There is a global increase in alpha from pre to post here,
and all these three different types of alpha that are measured.
Alpha 1 is 8 to 10 hertz, alpha 2 is 10 to 12 hertz,
and alpha itself is the full band from 8 to 12. So when we look at this you
can see that there is a significant increase in the alpha band power for Sean when he had the Aries
tech device on the phone. Now that's a pretty remarkable change here and you can also see
in the temporal lobe here, it appears that,
you know, there's a real dropout in the power. And when the ARIES device was on the phone,
it prevented that from impacting the temporal lobe the way that we predict it would. The
literature has been pretty clear that, you know, cell phone exposure over time can
cause damage to the brain.
And so, in its damage that's associated with the radiation that comes off the phone and
the amount of heat that's generated in the brain on cellular structures that don't tolerate
heat well and will die off over time from repeated exposure and long exposures.
So it's pretty remarkable that in the resting state, alpha goes up.
And we see that in all the alpha bands and then in the beta bands, it's a little bit of a drop here,
but again, the right temporal lobe has beta come up.
Now again, you want this to happen because beta is the frequency that allows you to focus
and concentrate.
If you don't have enough beta, then it's hard to have get up and go, it's hard to remain
and sustain focus, concentration and attention.
Too much of it can create racing thoughts and difficulty sitting still and anxiety and stuff like that. But when you have a good balanced amount
then it's healthy and it allows you to get stuff done. So when we look at this
we see again this temporal lobe beta appears to come up as a result of the ARIES device being on the phone
mitigating the radiation coming out of the phone. So that's a very interesting
finding across the board. Okay, so here we have a screen that shows us heart rate variability.
The way we calculate that is we look at the beat of the heart and we look at the peak
of every heartbeat and we look at the distance between those heartbeats.
And it's called the SDNN.
We want to see the variability between those heartbeats and it's called the SDNN. We want to see the variability between
those heartbeats and so the standard deviation from normal to normal beat is
what's typically measured in milliseconds. Now the heart has four
frequency bands that can be measured. There's ULF, VLF, LF and HF. The LF and
HF bands have been described in the literature as being the two arms of the
autonomic nervous system.
The LF is sympathetic and so that's the band that where you're getting up and getting going.
It's your getting busy band basically.
Then you have the HF band which is the parasympathetic band and that band is you're laying in the
hammock and relaxing.
Now during this recording Sean was just relaxing and he wasn't doing anything, he wasn't under
task so to speak.
And so when he did that what you can see here is a pretty even distribution, he's a little
bit more relaxed than he is sympathetic.
And that's the way you should see somebody when they're relaxing. So in the next test he held the phone up to his head for five
minutes and then we waited a minute and then we shut off the phone and took it
away from him and we did another EEG recording and another recording of the
heart. And he went from this balanced state to this state, which is obviously a big difference.
The LF sympathetic band went up significantly and the HF band dropped a little bit.
Didn't change too much, but it dropped a little bit.
He definitely appears to have been more activated by having the phone by his head for five minutes.
Now, sympathetic activation is not a bad thing.
You know, you need to be able to do that
when you're getting ready to do something
or need to mobilize yourself.
However, if this is what's happening
when you're in a passive state
and you're holding the phone up to your head,
may not be good for you for that to be happening.
So that raises concern for me.
The other thing is that his SDNN went up significantly from baseline.
It popped up to 120.23 milliseconds.
Normal is over 50 milliseconds, so it went up a lot.
His heart became more varied and more sympathetic as compared to the way he looked
in baseline where he was more relaxed like this
and his heart rate variability was 94.64.
So after we did that test, that was pretty interesting.
We waited a little bit and then we called his phone again
but this time we placed an Aries device on the phone
and we had him hold it up to his head for five minutes
and then we stopped, hung up the phone and then did another measurement
and took a look. And it's really interesting here because this is what he
looked like with Aries protection. Massive swing, parasympathetic swing, off
the chart. He got really relaxed after that phone went away with the Aries tech device
on the phone which is really interesting I would have expected the the opposite to happen here I
would have expected increase in the LF band with continued exposure to the phone and and and not a
flip like this into a parasympathetic state also Also his SDNN went down to 74.98.
And remember, normal is over 50.
So he went down towards 50, which is good.
You know, he is somebody that does engage in exercise.
So having an SDNN like this is good,
which means his heart's elastic.
It can handle stress.
It can stretch when
he needs it to and that's what you want to have happen. Heart rate variability has been
shown in the research to be associated with heart attacks because if you have a heart
rate variability less than 10 milliseconds then you're at risk for one so obviously he
is not. But this is a pretty interesting finding. So when you look at it, he's much
more relaxed with the Aries device on the phone as compared to when there's no protection
on the phone like this. Pretty interesting stuff. Thank you.