Digital Social Hour - The Shocking Connection Between Meat and Your Mental State | John Lewis DSH #865

Episode Date: November 6, 2024

Dive into the shocking connection between meat and your mental state in this eye-opening episode of the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! 🌱✨ Join the conversation with our captivating guest, John Lewis, as he unveils the hidden truths behind the food industry and its impact on our mental health. From the controversial making of "They're Trying to Kill Us" to personal stories of transformation, this episode is packed with valuable insights you won't want to miss. Tune in now to discover the untold stories of how what we eat affects more than just our bodies—it's all about the mind too! 🧠💡 Watch now and subscribe for more insider secrets. 📺 Hit that subscribe button and stay tuned for more eye-opening stories on the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! 🚀 Don't miss out on this engaging and authentic discussion that's sure to get you thinking. Join us and be part of the change! 🌍🎥 #animalagricultureimpact #vegangains #animalagricultureandtheenvironment #depression #nutrition CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 00:27 - John Lewis on New Film "They’re Trying to Kill Us" 01:17 - John Lewis's Journey to Veganism 04:02 - John Lewis's Mentor John Salley 05:38 - Power of a Plant-Based Diet 07:45 - Importance of Brain Health 09:36 - What's Really In Your Food 14:05 - How Food Commercials Manipulate Consumers 17:47 - Truth About Beyond Meat 21:27 - Dating a Vegan 22:34 - Getting Brian Johnson for Next Documentary 25:28 - Ryan Garcia Situation 29:30 - Upcoming Film Projects 31:10 - Importance of Education 33:40 - Discussion on Conspiracy Theories 41:40 - Where to Find John Lewis 42:54 - Thanks for Watching APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: [e-mail] GUEST: John Lewis https://www.instagram.com/badassvegan/ https://www.instagram.com/badassnuts/ https://www.instagram.com/livevegansmart/ LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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to your liver, it goes to your... All these organs, but for some reason they don't think about the brain. The brain is an organ. For some reason people think that they can only get like the macronutrients from the animal that they eat. They only get the protein, the carbs, the fat. They don't think they can get the diseases that they have. And people really think that.

All right, guys, we got John Lewis here with his film called, They're Trying to Kill Us. What a name, man. What a name. I just wanna keep it real. Yeah, and you said it's a sequel to the first film you made, right? Yeah, What the Health.

What the Hell? Yeah, it's a sequel to What the Hell. Yeah, so. Which is on Netflix already. And a lot of people watch that one, right? A lot. It's actually been recorded as like the most viewed documentary on Netflix.

No way, the most viewed? Holy crap. What was the feedback on that one? It was controversial, but it was like, it woke a lot of people up. Like even if people didn't go necessarily vegan, they were just like, yo, we gotta change the way we eat. Right.

You know what I'm saying? And I think it hit hit right before the whole lockdown and everything. And people were just reflecting on all the bad habits and all the things that are allowed in this country as food. And I think they were like, yo, we need to change up. So I definitely got hit up a lot. I got a lot of emails after that one came out.

Dude, I don't buy meat in the grocery store anymore. I was a butcher at one point. Oh yeah? Holy crap. A vegan that was a butcher, like imagine. Where at? In St. Louis. I grew up in Ferguson, right where Mike Brown was killed.

Just like in a butcher shop? Yeah. I was actually like, I would serve the meat per order. Like literally people coming to the butcher shop, be like, I need 10 pounds of that, three pounds of this, four pounds of that, and we would just cut all that up. Wow. And it was so funny, our tactics were so horrible that me and my best friend, it's funny,

he's vegan now too. We did this in high school, we worked there in high school, but it was so bad that we would go, you know what, we're not buying any meat from here because it's horrible. And we'd go buy it from somewhere else. Like it was different. And it was the same practices all over.

Damn, so you got PTSD from that stuff. Oh, dude, definitely. So you were vegan shortly after that? No, man. Actually, it took me a while. I didn't go vegan until my mom. My mom was diagnosed with colon cancer. And I remember talking to the doctors,

like, you know, how this happened, what's going on. And the doctor was really like, Frank with me. Frank. But he's like, too much fried animal food, stuff like that. And I'm like, wait a minute, it's not hereditary? He's like, no, this is a lifestyle choice. And so I started doing more research, and believe me, I wasn't trying to go vegan at all.

Philly cheesesteak was my jam, you know what I'm saying? And I started looking at it and I was like, damn, I started seeing all this proof, especially in the African-American community, how meat is just like tearing us apart, like in just animal products in general. And so I was like, man, let me try this thing out, you know, and then like, I actually got mad at first because I started feeling so good that I was like, damn, I'm like, hey, they're gonna feel the cheese thing like no more of that. But then like the more and more I did it, man, I just, and I won't call myself an athlete anymore. As a person who still wants to be athletic,

but I'm not an athlete, I still feel like I'm able to like move like I did when I was in college. Wow. Still work out the same, you know, like I still go, I'm not as fast, don't get me wrong, but like I'm running a 5k tomorrow in LA, like I'm leaving here, but I'm running a 5K tomorrow in LA. I'm leaving here going to LA to run a 5K tomorrow. I'm running all the time, still lifting, and like I said, I feel like I'm still 27 and I'm $47. You're 47?

47, yeah. Dude, you look like you're in your 20s. It's hard to tell with black people. Yeah, yeah. They say black don't crack, but I know a couple that cracked up. Yeah, if you treat yourself... It's how you treat the body, man. If you treat it right, it'll... It's like, I say the human body is like the woman that karma was actually modeled after.

If you treat it right, man, it's going to treat you right. If you treat it bad, you're going to know real fast. You and John Sally are onto something, man. You guys both look good. You said that's your mentor, right? Yeah, that's my mentor. Yeah, we go way back, man. You and John Sally are onto something, man. You guys both look good. And you said that's your mentor, right? Yeah, that's my mentor. We go way back, man.

You met through hoops? No, I met through social media, actually, like 15 years ago. Damn, what was that, MySpace at the time? Yeah, right. Black Planet. Yeah. And then we actually met in person at an event that they had both of us come out to,

and then we just hit it off immediately. Nice. He's a clown, so me and him, we vibe. It is funny, he used to have a wine out. He was in Miami showing people the wine and giving them stuff, and he's like, ''Hey man, you here? Come on in.'' So I come in and I stand in the back while he's talking and like without hesitation he goes oh everybody I want to introduce you to my illegitimate son John and the amount of people that believe

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Like real like anytime I'm in LA, I'll call him up, let him know. Even if I can't see him, I let him know I'm in town. You know what I'm saying? That's cool. He was one of the first NBA players to go vegan, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I mean, he's still old as shit,

but he just a good dude, man. Like, and I think that pre-longed him and like, he still does his yoga. He still works out. He doesn't work out like lifting heavy, but I mean, he takes care of his body like crazy. Bro, he sent me that parasite cleanse. Yeah.

Oh my gosh, did he send you that too? Yeah. Well, yeah, I've known about it for, yeah. Oh my, he said that cleanse has treated cancer. Yeah, oh yeah. I mean, let's be honest. I'm one of those people, I'm not the vegan that says vegan is going to end all, be all, no disease.

But if you really look at like our hospital industry, it's not full of people that's eating fruits and vegetables. Nobody goes into the ER, and what happened? Oh man, he had a salad today and his heart exploded. It's the years and years of like turmoil that we do. And it's like, sometimes it's too far where you can't change it with just the food. But a lot of times, man, we, and I'm sure John can tell you too, we know so many people that have changed their life by just changing what they eat. Yup. I know a guy literally, he owns a vegan restaurant in Fort Lauderdale called Green Wave.

And he literally had stage four prostate cancer. Jeez. Never had chemo, never had surgery, just went raw and changed everything up. Whoa, just from eating raw food? Yup. Holy crap. Yeah.

And this case is like that all over the place. And I'm not saying like for everybody that's out there, like the ultra meat, you know, that's all you eat thing. Sure, that might work for some people too, but I know for a fact that stuff works. Like, you know what I'm saying? And it's helped me tremendously with everything in my life. I bet. There's also a spiritual component too, when you're eating animal meat.

Yeah. You know? Yeah. I actually, it's a guy that reached out to me today, real cool dude, and we always chat. And he was saying, he was like, man, I slipped up. I had meat. And he was like, man, I felt like... And he's really into his religion, really Christian. I'm not religious, but I don't knock anybody's religion.

I'm like, do you? And if it makes the best person out of you, do it. And he was telling me, he's like, man, I just felt like it took me further away from my spiritual beliefs when I ate the meat. And I was like, you know what? Maybe that was just a test for you, dude. It's cool. You know what I'm saying?

Now go back to it. You needed to get away from it to see how much you missed it. Now go back to eating the fruits and vegetables and da da da, and now you'll be fine. But it's definitely a spiritual component, man. I ain't saying I was the most angry person in the world, but I definitely was a different dude back then. Yeah, there's some generational drama within your community. Yeah. Like people like hate on that statement,

but it's definitely true. Yeah, and it's funny, like, I just think the food in general affects our mental state. For some reason, everybody will think about your organs. We know our organs. If you eat this food, it goes to your heart, it goes to your liver, it goes to all these organs. But for some reason, they don't think about the brain.

Your brain is an organ. So if you eat the food and it fucks up that, why wouldn't it fuck up your brain? What about that part? Or the people that think, for some reason people think that they can only get the macronutrients from the animal that they eat. They only get the protein, the carbs, the fat, but for some reason they don't think they can get the diseases that the animal had. And people really think that.

They just think they only get the good stuff from them. It's like, well, if you eat tainted food, it's going to taint you. That's how it is. And a lot of the meat now is vaccine too. In my documentary, we talk about the funny part is a lot of people were anti-vaxxers. I'm not telling anybody do it or not do it. I'm just saying to the people that were anti, but they eat meat, I'm like, you know, a lot of people were like anti-vaxxers. I'm not telling anybody do it or not do it. I'm just saying to the people that were anti, but they eat meat, you know, you would still get the vaccine, you know, getting some kind of vaccination. So Dr. Reyes that's in the film, he talked about how the United States is the number one consumer of

pharmaceuticals in any country in the world. There's only two countries that allow pharmaceutical advertising. Of course, we're one of them. And the crazy part is that people don't know is that, quick question for you, what would you think is the largest demographic of pharmaceutical users in the United States? By race? Just general, just anything. Any group, any group you can think of.

I'd say older, right? Old people? No. Really? No. Animals. What? Animal agriculture.

Really? Look at the conditions they got them in. They dump more pharmaceuticals in the animal agriculture to keep them from getting sick and dying early. They live in conditions that are crazy. In the film, I actually go to a hog farm and like, that was just, that was another level. It was crazy. But he was telling me like all the vaccines and pharmaceuticals that they got to give them just to keep them from dying early. Because he's basically like a holding cell. He gets the pigs at five weeks, feeds them for 20 weeks,

and gives them to the slaughterhouse at 25 weeks. And they don't see daylight the whole time. What? Yeah. When people be like open range and this and that, the habitat like, yeah, it's open inside in a hut. So basically they got slats on the floor. So when they piss and defecate and all that,

it just goes on the floor. And so he has these things called, oh man, I got the word wrong. So basically all that stuff goes in there and then they have pools outside. So they have three of these, basically lagoons. So they hold all the piss and all, all this. One, and this is one hog farm in North Carolina. Now, mind you, North Carolina has more pigs in the state

of North Carolina than has humans. That's how much, and that's just one farm. I mean, that's just one state. Imagine all the states that do chicken, beef, all this. So that's why we got such a big problem. So another thing is that it's not just harming the people that eat the meat. It also dives into... So you got these lagoons of shit pretty much, right? I don't know what my cursing level is. I probably hit it already, whatever it is. But if you think about it, so you got all these lagoons that's holding these feces. So at one point in the film, we're standing on top of one of them.

They got like these tops that they're supposed to be reinforced. I told my co-director, I said, man, if I fall in here, don't bring me back, just let me go. Just don't even try to bring me back. I don't even want to live with that embarrassment. So I asked him, like, what are we standing on? He's like, oh, we're standing on six million gallons

of hog feces. What? That's one lagoon? He's like, oh, we're standing on six million gallons of hog feces. What? That's one lagoon. He's got three of those. That's the way they bury the shit, just in a lagoon? No, that ain't even how they bury it. That's where they hold it. So what do they do?

It gets worse than that. So they have what they call spray fields. Now, remind you, this is a hog farm. Now mind you, you got pigs, chickens, all these other industries do the same thing. So nobody's buying hog shit. Nobody's like, hey, I'm in the industry, can I get some? So they have what they call spray fields. And with the spray fields, what they do is they spray the hog feces over these

fields to basically put it back into the ground. So it pollutes the water. So basically if a breeze comes through, it's just going to blow it. And all these majority of these hog farms, cattle farms, whatever it is, chicken, they're located in communities of color. And what happens is all this hog waste goes into these people's houses. Mind you, you can smell the hog waste from five miles away.

Oh, my gosh. That's how strong it is. So we had Johns Hopkins actually check out, sorry about that. We had Johns Hopkins check out and basically do a sweep of people's houses. So they swabbed the kitchen, the toys, the furniture, all came back with hog waste. No way. Just living in their house. Oh my God.

In fact, Ruby, beautiful lady that we interviewed, she actually died from complications after we interviewed her. Jesus. From living in that. And literally, we're at her house on her front porch, and you can smell hog shit. That is terrible, dude.

It's crazy. But people don't think about that when they're like, oh, but I gotta have a bacon. It's like, all right, he's still supporting that too. Wow. Yeah. It goes deep, man. And that's why the film really got blackballed because we tell everybody where the money's

coming from, who it's going to. This CEO was working for this pharmaceutical company and I was working for McDonald's. We break it all down. Yeah. So I think that's why a lot of people were afraid of this, for real. So you saw all the big companies, you were able to link them together, like Big Pharma, Big Food, Big Agriculture. Yeah. And like I said, when we met up with the own network and they pretty much told us that this

is the best documentary they've ever seen. They want to purchase it to help heal the black community. And we dove into some more logistics and then that's when they were like, yeah, but we gotta cut 30 minutes out. I'm like, why you gotta cut 30 minutes out? They're like, yeah, because even though we had the lawyer's fact check, everything goes right after our main advertisers, and we can't have that.

And I'm like, well damn, that's a slap in the face, because you just told me it was the best thing, but you're scared of these people too. And we even talk about how the insurance companies have over $1.9 billion invested into fast food industry. Wow. So they double-dipping.

Damn. And it's all fact check. You can just like, I mean, the thing is, it's not a secret out there, but nobody's going to look for it. They just like, yo, this shit tastes good, so I'm just gonna keep eating it. And it's addiction, that's what it is. Like, it's called the look for it. They just like, yo, this shit tastes good, so I'm just going to keep eating it. And it's addiction.

That's what it is. It's called the FDA for a reason, because food is a drug. It's the most addictive thing you'll ever put in your body, but you don't pay attention to it. And you'll just keep doing it, because that commercial look good. I remember I got my undergrad degree in marketing.

I'll never forget when I graduated, and now I said I'm 47, so long ago. I'll never forget when I graduated and now that I said I'm 47 so long ago. I'll never forget my marketing teacher, she told us good luck, you know, find a job. We're like, well, you could have told us that before we got major. But then she goes on and she says the reason why is because they're hiring psychologists now for marketing. So like when you watch that pizza commercial and you see the steam come off the pizza after five seconds, that's psychological. They're looking at how the brain reacts and then they wait another 15 seconds and then

they pull the cheese and you see the cheese. So it triggers you the whole time. You're like, damn. You're like, man, this is how bad we are in America. We could be literally eating food, watching a food commercial and going, damn. Because we all do it. Like you laugh cause you think about it. You're like, we actually do that.

We'll be eating breakfast. Like, yo, what we having for lunch today? Facts. Every meal. Every meal. Like, I'm like that too. Even vegan, I'm like, yo man, I can't wait for dinner. It's breakfast. That's so facts.

They're so good with the subconscious marketing. They're good with it. And the coloring and the letters, everything. Coloring, the sauce. Oh, wait. Make sure that mayonnaise drops off the side of the sandwich right now. 15 seconds, they lost interest.

Go back. And that's why basically people don't even know this. And you probably won't hear anybody say this. Well, you probably will say it afterwards. But nobody thought about it. Food commercials was the first TikTok. Yeah. They knew. You probably won't hear anybody say this. Well, you probably say it afterwards, but nobody thought about it. Food commercials was the first TikTok. Mm.

Yeah. They knew. They knew. Your attention span ain't shit. So they're like, uh-oh, we lost them. All right, drop something. Oh, we lost some steam coming off the burger. Oh, we lost them, bite the burger.

Right. You know what I'm saying? And then think about that too. How many fast food commercials have you seen a morbidly obese person? None. But how many morbidly obese person? None. But how many morbidly obese people eat fast food? Almost all of them. They don't keep it real?

They're not going to tell you that? Nope. Yeah. And the CEO of McDonald's, guess what he's not eating? Fast food. McDonald's. That's like the CEO of the cigarette companies. They don't smoke.

Yeah. They know better. But they'll give it to us in a heartbeat. I've never seen Warren Buffett drink a Coke. Exactly. He's an investor in them though. Exactly've never seen Warren Buffett drink a Coke. Exactly. He's an investor in them though. Exactly, they know. They know.

Don't get high off your own supply. They're the biggest drug dealers there is out there. They know it. Yeah, it costs a lot of money to own a McDonald's. A lot. Millions. People don't even realize it. The franchising fee,

it's all these different things that go into it. Yeah, the printing money. They just sitting back getting fat off of it. Printing. Not fat off McDonald's food itself, but yeah. They got me good on the Beyond Meat marketing, dude. I started eating that shit at first, and then I found out what's in it.

Yeah. To be honest, I mean, I know the guy that owns Beyond Meat, so it's no knock on him. But it's funny, because I get people on my page always talking shit like, yeah, but you're eating this. I'm like, dude, when have you ever seen me post about me eating this? I don't even eat it, but it's just,

people just associate veganism with all the processed stuff now. And I tell people like, yeah, veganism can be expensive, but it's expensive and it's bad when you're eating all the junk. It's still junk food at the end of the day. You know what I'm saying? You're not supposed to eat junk food probably ever, but definitely not every day. You know what I'm saying? Now don't get me

wrong. Am I traveling and I'm at some vegan restaurant and they got a vegan burger? Yeah, I might try it. But at home, none of that shit's in my house. Rob Markman I feel a lot. Rob Markman Yeah. Chris Bounds It must be tough to eat off of you. Rob Markman Not really, man. Chris Bounds Really? Rob Markman Nah, I'm very hard on myself though, there's actually a vegan donut shop here in Vegas.

It took a lot not to go there. It took a lot. This morning, damn. Well, because they close at like, it's called Ronald's Donuts. I think it closes, shout out to Ronald's Donuts. You just got to plug. But I think they close like noon or something.

Damn, that's early for a donut. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So like, they close very early. They like open early, though. I think they open like 5. 5 AM? Catch people going to work, whatever. So like they closed very early. They like open early though. I think they open like five. Five a.m.? People going to work, whatever. But then they close at like noon. So I was going to go, but I was like, you know what? I've been doing real good. Let me just-

Yeah, you got a 5K tomorrow. Yeah, I got a 5K tomorrow. But I'm averaging right now six and a half miles three days a week. Jeez. So yeah. That's impressive, man. And I tell everybody, I'm team sloths, man. I'm not everybody, I'm Team Sloth, man. I'm a professional jogger.

I'm not a runner. I'm not out there to win. I'm not out there to beat anybody. I just want to finish. You're just doing your thing. Yeah. We were talking in the back and I was telling people that Rich Rolls is a real good friend of mine.

And one time both of us were doing a 5K together. And so they put teams out there to get people like more hyped to do it and they were like You can sign up under team John or team rich and I'm like who's gonna sign up on the beat? That's rich roll We wrote a hundred hundred mile races You know say it like and the crazy like a lot of people know he'll run those races with no headphones nothing What's hundred miles hundred miles? Yeah, like crazy mental discipline. Yeah, like I'm not there. I will never be there and I'm okay with it.

But I told everybody, I made a video and I was like, anybody want to sign up with me? We are Team Sloth. We're not out here to win. We're out here to have a good time, finish, get a... Like that's what I do. I do it for like mental clarity, man, but I still have my headphones on. Might be a podcast, might be music, whatever. But I will say I get so many ideas when I'm out running. It is a mental thing. You get a run this high for real. No matter what the pain is,

your mind goes somewhere. Some of my best ideas are on walks or runs. Exactly. But I think you have to go past a certain point because it's going to be pain at the beginning. And I'm not talking about like past a certain point in because it's going to be pain at the beginning. And I'm not talking about like past a certain point in that run, I'm talking about like you got to go past a month of doing it, past two months of doing it. Because in first months it's like, why am I out here? I don't understand. I was here for the Wu-Tang concert back in, what was that, March I think it was?

I heard about it, yeah. And I did like a five mile run here and I was like, what am I doing? Like it was, it was so hot. I was like, why am I here? Like, and like, it's a different run. Like I was drying out my lips with chaps. It was like skin like flaking up. It was so different. Vegas heat. Don't mess around. I wasn't even sweating anymore. That's the crazy thing. Like, my body just stopped perspiring. I don't know what to do at this point. They overheated. Yeah. Oh man.

Were you on a dating show? Yes. Oh, you did your research. I did. Can you only date a vegan or what's your criteria? Nah, man. Nah. You know, my wife, like she's vegan now, but when we met she wasn't vegan.

Oh wow. Like I believe in meeting people where they're at and then we see where their heart is and where their head is. OK. You know what I'm saying? And now mind you, the date, whatever. I mean, you go date. You get to learn somebody. Because somebody cannot be vegan but be compassionate

and be looking or interested in it. But if you got somebody that's talking shit about your lifestyle all the time, that's not going. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, lifestyle all the time, that's not going to work. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but the dating show was, that was funny. That was interesting. I was vegan on the dating show actually.

Oh yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You were probably getting some heat for that. Oh, I was. Because back then it wasn't as accepted. It still ain't. It was like everybody thought I was crazy back then, but then I'm like, yeah, everybody still think I'm crazy.

So I guess it really don't matter. Yeah. Well, Brian Johnson's vegan. I like that, dude. Yeah. You know Brian? Yeah. I don't know him personally, but yeah.

Yeah. I think he's doing really good things for health. Yeah, man. Yeah. You got to get him on the next documentary. Yeah. You hook it up. I got you.

I'll put him on there. I hope you get picked up, though, dude. I really want to watch this thing. Man, you know, it's so crazy just to see. Like, when we made this film, I'm very critical of my work, like whatever I do. Like, I was an obese kid too, so like, I always think I'm at like 25% body fat, no matter what I'm doing.

Damn, that's high. It's crazy, but I was 315 as a freshman in high school. Holy crap. Yeah, and I wasn't 6'6", I was like 5'6". Jeez. I was a tall freshman, don't get me wrong, but just the standard American diet. So I'm always just critical of my work. So I didn't know, but every time somebody sees the documentary, like, dude, this is

crazy. And like I said, I got Billy Eilish and Chris Paul as executive producers. And networks are still like, ah. I didn't know Billy was vegan. Yeah. Yeah. Billy been vegan for a long time. About seven years now. Wow. Seven, eight years, yeah. Yeah. I knew C.P. was.

Yeah. Actually, watching What the Health is what actually helped him go vegan. Really? Holy crap. Yeah. And then like, yeah. And I'm actually working on some more stuff with him to come out. We're working on like, have you ever seen like MD Motivator? I've seen him. Paul, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we're working on some content like that.

He's a carnivore though, right? Or is that someone else? No, MD Motivator is the guy like, he'll go with me like, hey, I'm sorry, man, you got a dollar so I can catch the price. Oh no, yeah, that's someone else. I'm thinking of Carnivore MD. Yeah, Carnivore MD. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know what's funny? I had to block him, but not because- Really? No, not him, but not because... Really? No, not him. It was because all the vegans kept tagging me on all his shit. And I'm like... And for a while, I think he thought I was having these people tag.

I'm like, dude, I'm a big believer in post whatever you want on your page. Whatever you want. Whether it's... I might not agree with it, but that's your page. I'm not going to come in your house and tell you what to do. Same thing in my house. Like, when people come on, like, I always laugh when people come

to tell me what to do on my page. I'm like, you're literally telling me what to do while telling me I shouldn't tell people what to do. It's ironic. It's ironic, but they don't look at it like that. But yeah, so, but we're working on some content like that to where we're like going to help people out and like being genuine about it, you know what I'm saying?

Like, yeah, it's gonna be on film. Cause I, you know, it's that Catch-22, like do you really want to show on film? But I think the more positivity you show, the more people are inclined to do it. Like if you hide all the positivity and you just let the negativity run, people are like, yeah, you know what?

I don't care about nobody else either. And that's what we're seeing pretty much a lot right now in the world. Yeah, I think there's a movement though. I think the truth is getting out there more and more. Yeah, and that's what we need, man. We need more kind people, man. Like it's enough assholes.

I think we got enough assholes. We reached our limit. The cup is overflowing with assholes. Like we need more kind people out there. I think we got enough assholes. We reached our limit. The cup is overflowing with assholes. We need more kind people out there. I love it. You see this Ryan Garcia stuff? Dude, I was in the Uber on the way over here. I'm like, what the... Whoever made the post, I put a comment. I said, how to lose your career in 60 seconds. This is literally, he is writing the book on how to just ruin your career in 67. This is literally, he is writing the book on how to just ruin your career. Yeah.

But I mean, it's ruining other people's lives, but I'm like, man, what are you doing? Like- I thought it was a show for the Haney fight, but then he kept it up after, and I'm like, what the heck? And what do we say? Mental health is like, I'm not saying it's exactly what he eats, but it's so overlooked. It definitely plays a role. You can't argue that. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, getting hit in the head doesn't help a lot either. But

you know what I'm saying? It's so crazy. I heard that he had done some stuff, but then when I actually heard what he was saying, I'm like, yo, this is crazy. So he said the N word? I didn't see it yet, but I heard about it. Yeah. Damn. It's like, wow. And then he doubled down on Twitter, and he deleted the tweet, but everybody... Once it's out there, it's out there. And yeah, he doubled down on it, man.

It was crazy. Holy crap. Yeah, man. He's not black, right? He's Spanish? No, he's Mexican. He's Mexican. Yeah, he's Mexican.

In fact, I saw some people on their posts were like, I'm Mexican and we don't claim him. This is not us, dude. Holy crap. They basically were like, he's not like us. Damn, man. You can hear Kendrick Lamar playing in the background as I was reading the comment. I just saw that video yesterday.

Oh yeah, he, man. That might be the best diss track of all time. And I'm big on diss tracks, but that one there, yeah, man. That's a career ender. I mean, it's still Drake, so he gonna come back in some kind of way. But I think it's basically what he did to Meek Mill. It's what Drake did to Meek Mill happened to him.

It's like the bully got bullied, and like he didn't know how to come back from it. And I think being silent, I think somebody in his camp finally said, hey man, just let this one go, dude. It's not working for you. So yeah, I hope he, maybe one day he'll come back and we'll see, because I mean, Drake got some tracks out there that's dope.

But I think he'll take a little break for a little while. He needs to, man. He's got to fly to Barbados or something. Just chill. Yeah, hang it up for a year. Yeah, chill, start doing community service. Hang it up for a year. Yeah, chill, start doing community service. That's going to help him out.

He had a good run though, man. Oh man. Like I said, career not done. It's not over, but- He just got to watch what he does. Yeah. It's tainted though. I don't think this will be forgotten.

No, no, no, no. Any song where he's talking shit is going to be... He just got to keep it in love balance like Kedrick said, you know, I like you when you're doing the balance. Do like, as long as he does that, he's good. It's when he tried to, and he does, like sometimes when he does all the gangster shit, I'm like, I don't think Drake can think gangster,

like, oh, you know, just keep it in the cool, I'm a winner, that's cool. But like when he keeps it into the winner and he starts using the Jamaican accent, you're not Jamaican, you're not like, yeah, you take it a little bit. But I love his music, but like you said, just keep it a certain way.

But I've always been a bigger Kendrick fan than that. He's got a song called Black of the Berry. I haven't heard that one. Oh man, it's like an anthem to like really, it'll put you in a rage mindset though. Really? Oh dude. So it's like a, what's that DMX?

Yeah. DMX type of vibe. Yeah. I listened to DMX before my basketball games. Gets me so pissed. Man. DMX is not like something you listen while you dropping your kids off.

Nah, nah. Hell no. DMX is not something you listen while you're dropping your kids off. No, no. Hell no. Unless it's that Reading Rainbow remix. You ever heard that one? No, I haven't. There's a remix out there where somebody... This is years before AI really took off, but it's literally got a remix of him with the Reading Rainbow theme song, but DMX hyping it up the whole time.

That's hilarious. I got to check that out. Yeah. That's too funny. Are you working on another film right now? Yeah, we got some ideas out there. We got one that we want to start doing, which is basically talks about the disparity of financial income between races. And basically

it's like a Black Mirror Twilight Zone mixed with, remember Watchmen that was on HBO? I didn't see that one. It's like a superhero film, but it involved actual events that happened. So it had a fiction and nonfiction part to it. So basically it's like, what would happen if a family, a black family was in charge of all the money in the world, but they had to keep the secret. And so they had to live broke just to keep the secret.

But then when the grandmother passed, she told the granddaughter the secret and the granddaughter is like, well, fuck that. I'm gonna give the money to the black people. And so basically it's like, I don't know, I wanna say a hundred million dollars, it's just as an example, there's a hundred million black people in the world

and every black person in the country got a million dollars to even it out. But it also shows the good and bad though. Like some people can handle getting that much money and they try drugs and they start kicking and they spend all the money. Some people use it responsibly, but it's just even in the playing field out to like, okay, if these people have generational wealth because of what happened in the past, what about the generational trauma that's passed down too for the other generations?

And it's just evening it out. what about the generational trauma that's passed down too for the other generations? And it's just evening it out. But it shows the good and bad, it's got some comedy to it too, but we're working on that. We're putting the whole plot together and everything. That'd be cool. I always see that comment online where it's like,

if Jeff Bezos gave everyone a million dollars, it wouldn't affect him. Yeah, it wouldn't. He would've sneezed at that shit. But it's also not as easy as that though. It's not. It's not. Because everybody's not going to use it responsibly either.

Right. It would just funnel back to them eventually. Yeah, exactly. Everybody's going to Amazon after they get it. I'd be shopping nonstop on Amazon. Packages just at the door. He's like, yes, thank you. People think money will solve everything, but if they got a million tomorrow-

Education. Education got to come with it. And I think that's where social media literally does have the good and bad. Social media can be educational. It's got its bad stuff, but if you use it right, because I get it on my posts a lot of times, where I'm like, well, we gotta change this if we do this, and I give nutritional information, this and that. And people are like, yeah, but people don't change it because they're not getting the

education. I'm like, well, that's what this is. Education doesn't mean you gotta have 12 degrees hanging on your wall. I know some people that are rich as hell and don't have one degree. Same. You know what I'm saying? That's not what it's about.

It's about learning. Education, nowhere in the definition of education doesn't say university. An example might be used for university, but it doesn't say university. An example might be used for university, but it doesn't say university. Education is everywhere. Someone needs to make a documentary about colleges and universities.

We thought about that too, especially the HBCUs and how they were founded and where they came from and where they stem from. I don't know much about that. Yeah, it's a lot. I mean, the funny part is a lot of them were funded by the white education. Really? Why would they do that?

Well, because in certain circumstances, there are good white people out there. And they felt like they need to have their own because you got to remember, it was so segregated for so long that a black person couldn't just go to Yale, couldn't just go to Harvard. So they needed their own avenue. And it was funny because somebody was talking to me about, I made a post yesterday about like, I really don't celebrate 4th of July because there was, people were still enslaved in 4th of July.

So why would I support that? People are like, you're living in the past. I'm like, you're celebrating the past. Like, how am I wrong? I was like, and I told him, I said, if people stop telling lies, I'll stop telling the truth. We're even. And the thing is, I don't say it with anger. People think I make posts and I just sit there waiting to come back. I make posts and I go on my life. Like- Yeah. You're one of the most positive people I've met, to be honest. So- I feel like you gotta be positive, man.

It's so much negative shit out here. They are starting to question a lot of the past. They're going after the Holocaust now. I don't know if you've seen this. Really? I haven't seen that. A lot of people are questioning what exactly happened. Got you.

Yeah, it's pretty wild, dude. That's crazy. I would love to see what they come up with on that. With 9-11 and all this stuff, it's an interesting time. We're in a lot of new information's coming out. Yeah. I mean, the funny thing is, it's new to us. Somebody this whole time is knowing.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. It's fast. Somebody this whole time is knowing what's going on. And we're just like, really? That happened? They're like, yeah, but trying to tell you. I don't believe in every conspiracy. I don't, but I believe just to be vegan, you got to

believe in a conspiracy. Like you got to, like, you know, saying like, and conspiracy doesn't mean lie. Conspiracy just means somebody's conspiring to do something. All right, let's go check it out. That's it. And do I believe everyone? No. But there's some out there you like, oh, that makes sense. A lot of them, yeah. A lot of programming. Now that I know of the programming, I could see a lot more of these being possible. But before, I was believing everything on the news,

so I didn't believe in them. Or like, when my mom was still here, rest her soul, man. It's so funny. I would tell her certain things, and it was because of the source that she wouldn't listen to it. She changed my fucking shitty diapers. So she's like, dude, I'm not listening to you. I never forget coconut water.

I'm not even exaggerating. I was like, mom, you need to hydrate more coconut water. Try that out. No, I don't. Oh, coconut water. I'm not doing that. I never forget she sends me an article. Yo, I read this article about coconut water.

I've been drinking it lately. It is amazing. And it was like a year later. I'm like, mom, do you remember me telling you that? You never told me about coconut water. I've been drinking it lately, it is amazing. And it was like a year later, I'm like, mom, do you remember me telling you that? You never told me about coconut water. I'm like, really? But I really, I think it depends on the source. Like, put it this way,

we're living in a world right now, presidential candidates are coming out. Whether they like one candidate or the other one, if one candidate says something, no matter how true it is, if they like one candidate or the other one, if one candidate says something, no matter how true it is, if they hate that person, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. We live like that throughout life, period. If a certain person says it, like I'm trying to think of Mayweather.

Mayweather's always under the gun because he's flashy. So he might give great advice one day, but be like, man, I hate how flashy he is. He just told you how to make money. But he like, I'm not listening to him. Yep, selected bias. Yeah. You see it with Mr. Beast.

He'll cure a hundred blind people. The comment on Twitter will be like, why do you do that? And that's the challenge of Mr. Beast. Never met him in person, but definitely a huge supporter of what he does. Cause that was kind of like the whole foundation of doing this thing with Chris Paul and his team in order to like, yeah, show on camera what you're doing to help people. If people get mad at you for showing good shit, that's on them.

That's something internal that they got to take care of. If you see good Ds and you get pissed, something's wrong with you. How dare he do good things on camera? My bad. You need to go check that out though. That's medical. Yeah, that is, dude. You should be happy. You should be happy. I get people all the time that ask me, well, why are you so positive? I'm like, look, man, I tried to angry, dismissive, hateful, you know, just angry at everything. And you don't even realize how painful that shit is

until you start living happy. It's a painful experience, man. Everything's gonna trigger you. Everything's gonna piss you off. Everything's gonna make you go, well, why not me? But if you start just looking at the little things and being happy, do I ever get mad? Yeah, I'm still human, but it just don't last as long.

But it's happiness, and this is one of my quotes I came up with, I'm always coming up with quotes. I'm not saying they're great quotes, but I come up with quotes all the time, and I say, happiness is a learned art. It's a skill. You gotta practice it every day. If you wanna have a good jump shot,

what you got to do every day? Practice. You want to be happy every day, you got to practice being happy. But people think you just going to wake up happy and like, you just go last all day. No, it's literally going to be something to trigger you all day. Yeah. And you got to be practicing to the point of where like, that don't even phase you. Absolutely. Dude. To the point it's comedy. Yup. A good way to know someone is bringing them to a pickup basketball. Some people get so pissed. So pissed.

Actually, I stopped playing. I'm not gonna lie. I think that actually helped me. You were one of those guys? It wasn't that. It's just like, I can't stand, and I'm sorry out to all the pickup players. And like, I played college semi-pro travel ball I can't stand, and I'm sorry out to all the pickup players,

I played college, semi-pro, travel ball, all that. And the people that never play organized ball pass, Little Leagues, that swear they're the best player in the world, and they're talking shit to you, and I'm like, dude, or you go set a screen, and they're like, why you setting a screen? Dude, that's how you play basketball. They're waving away picks like, dude, you're not getting open.

I think that's the part. Then the people that just foul, crazy. Crazy. Crazy. I'm like, dude, you literally could have killed that dude, not injured him. If he would have failed the wrong way, you know, so like that was my anger was like, cause you, if you think about basketball and most contact sports, you don't get injured by yourself. Is somebody undercutting you? Is somebody bumping you when they shouldn't have like, no, like you're in the air and they're just like, Oh, you're

not dunking on me today. So now they're going to do ego. Yeah. Ego. So yeah, I've been much happier since I stopped basketball. I feel. So yeah, I've been much happier since I stopped basketball. I feel like I just don't involve myself. I'll play, but I don't talk. It's hard. I've never was a shit talker though. Yeah. No, the thing was I never talked back. It's just for some reason it would get me to where like, and I think a lot of people, they don't like the guy that doesn't talk back. They probably want to fight you more because you don't talk. I used to get more people wanting to fight me because I never said nothing. One of my best friends, the guy that was a butcher with me, shout out to Craig, not Craig

from Friday, Craig. He would talk shit for me and it made it worse. I never get, there was a kid I dunked on our senior year in high school. I grew up with the kid, but our teams were playing each other in the Normandy Christmas tournament, which is like the biggest Christmas tournament in St. Louis. And he, I was the tallest point guard in the conference. And so he tried to do a half court. He waved away to pick.

I'll never get looking at him like, really? Like you really think you're about to take me? Okay. And he tried to cross over. I remember picking him. And I remember going to the other end. I was like, I'm just going to lay it up. And then something told me like, ah, fuck it. And I cocked it back and I didn't know he was coming. I didn't know he was coming. And when I cocked it back, here he comes. And it was just, it was horrible. To the point, his dad, I'll never forget, I saw his dad after the game. And I went up to him, I'm like, hey, Mr.

I'm not gonna say the name on it. I'm not gonna embarrass him. I'm like, hey man, what's going on? He was like, don't talk to me. Damn. He's like, you did that to my son and you think you can talk to me? And I was like, dude, I'm 17 years old, dog.

Like, why are you mad at me? Like, I was like, wait a minute, your son tried to cross me over. If he would have crossed me over, you was cool with that. But because I picked him and dunked on him, but my best friend Craig, I'm not exaggerating. If we're ever in the same vicinity, Craig brings it up. Craig will bring it up.

Man, remember when you, John, you remember when you dunked on him? I'm like, Craig, we grown men, you gotta let it go. He hates me to this day. It was just one play. Damn. And he hates me to this day. But Craig is like that.

He'll talk trash to anybody, no matter what I'm doing. I'm like, Craig, it's cool, man. Let it go. It's okay. Let it go. That's funny, dude. I love it. Well, John, where can people find you and can they watch the film anywhere?

Yeah, right now it's on Tubi. Me and Sean working on some other stuff. We're going to get into some other places, but Tubi is on Tubi under They're Trying to Kill Us. You can find me on Instagram, Twitter, shit. I'm even on like Eventbrite. Anything I can get my name under, because well, I do that on purpose too, anything I can get my name on that. Well, I do that on purpose too, because I know people take names and then like you never know what's on. Did you ever hear the story about like Holly Berry?

Holly Berry, no, what happened? So back in the day when websites were like first starting out and I, Holly Berry might not be the right name, but it was one star, but I'm using Holly Berry as a reference. And basically these dudes would just go buy up names, but they would one star, but I'm using Halle Berry as a reference. And basically these dudes were supposed to go buy up names,

but they would put like porn on it. Oh. And so these stars couldn't have that. And so they end up buying the websites for like millions of dollars because people are like, no, you can't have it unless you give me a million dollars. Damn.

Because they bought it first. And so like, so I always like, whatever new platform comes out, I get my name immediately. Smart. Just in case somebody does something stupid on it. I'm like, I'm like whatever new platform comes out. I get my name immediately smart Just in case somebody does something stupid. I'm like, I'm not giving you a million dollars And John Lewis is pretty common name. So yeah, yeah make sense. We'll link all your stuff below. Thanks coming on Yeah, thanks for watching guys. Check out the film and I'll see you guys tomorrow. Peace