Digital Social Hour - The Truth About Big Pharma and America's Health Decline | Brigid Rasmussen DSH #1288

Episode Date: April 1, 2025

Is Big Pharma profiting off America's health decline? 🏥💊 Join Sean Kelly on Digital Social Hour as he sits down with Brigid, COO of MAHA Alliance, to uncover shocking truths about Big Pharma, th...e overprescription epidemic, and the alarming rise in health crises. From mental health misdiagnoses to food system failures and the fight for transparency, this conversation is packed with valuable insights that will leave you questioning everything. 🌍💡 Brigid shares her journey working alongside Bobby Kennedy and President Trump to create the groundbreaking MAHA movement—focusing on making America healthy again by tackling the root causes of chronic disease and empowering communities. 💪🍎 Hear how grassroots support is driving change, from addressing school lunches to fighting for informed choices in healthcare.  Don't miss out—watch now and subscribe for more insider secrets. 📺 Hit that subscribe button and join the conversation to stay informed on the latest health and political shifts! 🚀 Let's make health a priority together. 💬🔥 CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Mental Health Crisis 00:28 - Brigid Rasmussen 03:05 - Maha Movement 07:38 - Maha Legislation 12:49 - China Buying Up Farmland 15:22 - Make America Healthy Again 19:23 - Kellogg's Petition 27:32 - Censorship 34:25 - Howie’s Political Journey 39:59 - Mental Health Awareness 42:28 - Infant Mortality Rate 47:24 - Upcoming Events and Initiatives 48:07 - Outro APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: jenna@digitalsocialhour.com GUEST: Brigid Rasmussen  https://www.instagram.com/brigidrasmussenn/ https://www.instagram.com/mahaalliance/ LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ #alternativemedicine #medicaldecisionmaking #foodanddrugadministration #publichealth #mentalhealthjustice

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Starting point is 00:00:00 One, yes, mental health is at an all time low, but it's also just increase of diagnosing teenagers when they have depression or anxiety. It's like that's often a very situational thing. Like, why are we putting kids in a box and then prescribing them something that they're then learning to externalize their ability to self regulate and self soothe and be resilient. Self-regulate, self-soothe, and be resilient. Okay, guys, got Brigid here, COO of Maha Alliance and Maha Action. A lot going on in your world. Thanks for coming on. Oh, yeah. Thank you so much for having me. Yeah, I'm sure you're all over the place lately. Yep, exciting times.
Starting point is 00:00:38 DC a lot, Austin, Texas, here in Vegas, LA, all over the place. Nice. How long you been with Bobby in the movement? So I started working with Bobby in April of 2023 when he announced that he was running for president. And, you know, it was a small group of us figuring out how to set up a campaign website, file paperwork with the FEC, that kind of thing. And then his big announcement speech in Boston,
Starting point is 00:01:00 which really is when things really took off. And then shortly after he announced his independent presidential run in Boston, which really is when things really took off. And then shortly after he announced his independent presidential run in Philadelphia, I believe October, 2023, he asked me to be his chief of staff and sort of take a more, more of a leadership role on his campaign, which was incredible. So yes, April, 2023 working with Boppy directly. You guys had an uphill battle from there. Definitely. It was huge. And it was more and more uphill the farther we got in terms of things like ballot access.
Starting point is 00:01:34 You know, for independent candidates, you don't just automatically get on the ballot. You have to collect a certain amount of signatures in each state. It's a unique requirement in each state from, you know, how big the paper size of the petition has to be to the color ink that's used. Wow, the color of the ink. Yeah, yeah. And they the DNC sued us, I want to say a dozen or more times for things like the starting collecting signatures before you have a vice president announced or where, you know, districts for collecting signatures, zip codes, you know, you have to in New York, for example, you have a vice president announced or where, you know, districts for collecting signatures zip codes, you know, you have to in New York, for example, you have to have a certain amount in each borough. It's crazy. So, you know, it was it was an uphill battle, but it was also such an incredible one. You know, our grassroots support was really the
Starting point is 00:02:22 backbone of the movement. By the end of the campaign, we had a hundred thousand plus active volunteers out in crazy weather conditions, collecting signatures, tabling at parades. I was driving through the middle of nowhere, Colorado, once on a Saturday afternoon. And there was this group of maybe a dozen volunteers holding a banner over a freeway that said RFK for president. So, you know, while we had those hurdles of being an independent campaign, we had this passion and fiery movement like never seen before. And that same movement is now, you know, getting behind maha related legislation and helping us on the ground.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Yeah. Continue to get the word out and grow. So. Yeah, it was a revolutionary movement. It was the first movement i've seen in politics that incorporated health yeah definitely i think it was and it's incredibly unifying you know you see bobby supporters many apolitical not engaged in politics people who have you know felt lied to by by our regulatory agencies time and time again you see them you know start to pay attention. And then you see that group of people aligned now with MAGA. And we've been going to these Republican conventions
Starting point is 00:03:32 all over the country. And the MAGA crowd is so excited about MAHA. I mean, it's a new arm of MAGA, but it's also a nonpartisan movement that we've seen be incredibly unifying. And it's what's necessary, you know, it's not one side or the other. It's just what we need to do. Our health is at an all time low and, you know, it's a threat to our national security.
Starting point is 00:03:57 77% of young people aren't eligible to join the military. So that leaves 23% out of that 23%. How many do you think actually want to join the military. You know, so that leaves 23% out of that 23%. How many do you think actually want to join the military? It's a huge threat to our national security. So yeah, I'd be curious how the numbers are if they're dwindling, the number of people in the military. Right. I mean, I think that they are.
Starting point is 00:04:18 And I think that we're seeing, you know, rising rates of PTSD in veterans and veteran health is a huge issue too. So we've been working with a couple of veteran health nonprofit organizations on some big maha veteran initiatives, both on the legislative side of things, getting more coverage for veterans, but also things like the food that they're serving in the military. That's a huge problem. Yeah, that's a huge problem. Yeah, I bet it's terrible food.
Starting point is 00:04:46 So many preservatives and artificial dyes, chemicals, you know, we've just got to do better and we've got to help the people that are helping us or serving our country, you know, thrive and we're not. Not at all. I've had a lot of veterans on the show and they told me they can't even use peptides or TRT. And as a fighter, you want high testosterone, you want to be healthy, and you can't even supplement with stuff like that. Right. It's crazy. Yeah. And the, you know, forcing people in the military to get the vaccine
Starting point is 00:05:16 over COVID and all of that, it's like, again, why are the people that are serving our country, you know, put last and not given choice and things like that? It's just crazy. Yeah. The vaccine decision was, I feel like a lot of people quit because of that one. Yeah, definitely. Definitely. I mean, it's like you choose between potentially harming your own body or serving your country.
Starting point is 00:05:38 It's crazy. I mean, so I'm excited to see this now take a national stage. You know, people are starting to talk about these things. People are starting to talk about this big pharma forever customer model where we're poisoning our kids. And then big pharma and big corporations are profiting off our kids being sick and our adults being sick and our veterans being sick. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Yeah. The prescription model, right? I think the average veteran's on over five prescriptions. Yeah, something like that. It's crazy. Kids are being prescribed SSRIs at a crazy rate too. Adults are on tons and tons of prescription medications. It's like, why is that the norm?
Starting point is 00:06:18 Why is it that when a kid goes into their pediatrician for a checkup and they say, oh, I'm feeling kind of depressed or, you know, the teacher says that they're, you know, off the walls, they can't focus. Why is the first thing to put somebody on Adderall or Lexapro or things like that, that are just not safe for kids. Right. Then, you know, there you have it, a forever customer. When I was in college at Rutgers, Adderall was so easy to get.
Starting point is 00:06:44 Yeah. Like everyone in my hall had it. It's easier to get than spinach. I went to Pepperdine University, which is pretty conservative and a dry campus and all of that. And it was still, I mean, everywhere. It was everywhere. It's, it's a big problem with college athletes too. They're getting Adderall prescriptions and then they're allowed to take Adderall to increase their performance. It's across the board a huge issue. It's the accessibility of these things, antidepressants, stimulants, you name it. We've got to think about root causes and you know when a kid is
Starting point is 00:07:22 having trouble in school, why not look at what they're eating or how much exercise they're getting? Why is it, okay, let's put them on an addictive pill that they're going to have to be on forever and has crazy side effects that probably more than we even realize. Yep. Is Maha working on any legislator to fight against that? Yeah, I think the biggest thing that we're focused on is transparency. And the biggest thing Bobby is focused on is transparency of our regulatory agencies and increasing regulations to increase informed choice. It's not taking away pharmaceutical companies. It's not even
Starting point is 00:07:59 taking away vaccines or drugs or junk food. It's just giving people more resources and educating them on what they're putting in their bodies, what they're putting in their kids' bodies. So there's a bill right now that's passing through committees in New York that requires doctors to lay out the potentially harmful side effects of vaccines 48 hours before the vaccine's administered. Oh, wow. Because what we see now is parents go into doctor's offices and it's not even a question of whether or not you get the vaccine or not. They're not even being presented the, you know, mile long packet of side effects of
Starting point is 00:08:37 vaccines. So things like that that are like, you know, the vaccine is still available should you want to get it, but at least you have 48 hours to learn the risks. You know, there's also, we're actually tomorrow at the Capitol in Arizona, there's a bill that's being put through that would ban chemical additives from school lunch programs in Arizona, you know, 30 to a hundred percent of sorry, 30 million kids are on, you know, have school lunches as 30 to 100 percent of their calories that they consume. So if we start with school lunches, you know, what kids are eating when they're at school, which, like I said, is a lot of what they're eating, especially in in communities where
Starting point is 00:09:23 that's that's the only resources they have is public school lunches. I think we're going to see a huge improvement in childhood health and childhood chronic disease because we can't have a strong nation when our kids are eating crap for lunch every day. When they're having Lunchables and Gaterade and candy and sodas. It's yeah. I still have nightmares about my school lunch. Yeah. Like it was disgusting.
Starting point is 00:09:50 What was it? It was like french fries, old pizza, salad that was probably like processed and I don't even know. It wasn't fresh salad. I could tell you that. Right. And the lowest quality meat, the lowest quality ingredients. Yeah. I grew up like no, it doesn't look like meat. And I grew up upper middle class, too.
Starting point is 00:10:06 So it's not like we didn't have the resources to afford a decent meal. Right. But it was still just subsidized by the state, I guess. Right. And they find the cheapest ingredients. Yeah, it's crazy. And then they're mass producing. But then you go and visit schools and the trash can is just filled with food kids don't want to eat. It's not even appetizing to them. You know, it's yeah, it's plastic. It looks and see, it's the same thing with hospitals.
Starting point is 00:10:31 People come out of open heart surgery and they're giving Mountain Dew and these plastic looking pop tart things. It blows my mind. Yeah. Yeah. There's vending machines in hospitals, some of the vending machines, candy vending machines. Right. Right. Like I was out of loud. I know. And it's like, you know, we need to something that we're focused on with Maha is rather than just telling people what not to eat, it's like giving them
Starting point is 00:10:54 things that they can eat and can cook and are actually accessible. I think there's this issue where people people get overwhelmed. They're pretty soon they're like, okay, well, what can I eat? You're telling me not to have seed oils, vegetable, canola oil, that's like in everything almost. You're telling me not to have food dyes. You're telling me not to have soda or McDonald's,
Starting point is 00:11:15 but for a lot of people, that's all that they have. And then it kind of just is a huge turnoff for these people and they stop paying attention and it's almost this elitist thing. So we need to, you know, rather than just taking away process frozen meals, it's like let's provide alternatives. They might not be perfect, but they're better. You know, so you could find the right things for the right price, you know? Yeah. I don't think you have to buy organic if you can't afford it. Right, right. And that's the other, the organic label, you know, that foreign companies are importing organic produce and they're essentially paying for the sticker.
Starting point is 00:11:53 It's not actually organic. There's no oversight. Wow. The same thing with supplements that are coming in from overseas. And what that's doing is one, poisoning us and two, it's driving American small businesses, small farms, completely out of business because they're not able to mass produce at that rate. Dang, I didn't know that. So the label doesn't mean what it used to.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Yeah, I mean, not always. I mean, I think there's organic farmers here that are incredible and are struggling because they don't have the subsidies that these massive, massive, you know, slaughterhouses, for example, and big farms have. So, yeah, I think we need to put America first. We need to put American businesses first. We need to put American farms first. That's the only way we can make our economy healthy again, make our kids healthy again. I mean, it's why are we prioritizing these
Starting point is 00:12:44 foreign companies over our own companies and ultimately foreign people are over our own people. Yeah. Have you seen the farmland China buying up the farmland? Yeah, yes. It's crazy. Yeah, that's concerning. It's so concerning. Yeah. And then, yeah, again, they're not prioritizing the health of the American consumer, you know, the same way that a small farmer would. Yeah. I mean, last thing I heard was they own the second most farmland in America.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Yeah. China. Yeah. I believe that's true. That's crazy. It's crazy. And Bill Gates is first. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:18 And who knows what he's up to. I know. That's a whole problem in itself. Yeah. So yeah, I think ultimately we've got to think about our American kids and adults that are, you know, You hear all the time from Bobby and others, there's nothing more profitable than a sick child, right? And we have to look at the source. We have to look at how food is grown. You know, this pesticide Issue is huge right now
Starting point is 00:13:42 pesticide issue is huge right now. Iowa has one of the highest rates of cancer and also one of the highest rates of pesticide use on their crops. Every year, six billion pounds or something of glyphosate related, you know, pesticides, for example, glyphosate are sprayed on our crops that end up being our produce that kids and grownups are eating. So there's a direct correlation. Yeah. That's concerning. So there's a direct correlation. Mm hmm. Yeah. That's concerning.
Starting point is 00:14:06 I believe there is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The pesticide stuff is nuts because they haven't found anything to combat that yet. Right. Exactly. And they're in Iowa right now. There's a bill that they're trying to push through that would grant immunity, legal immunity, essentially, for pesticide companies for. Wow. Yeah. And that's going on. They actually just passed this same bill in Georgia. So we're fighting that too.
Starting point is 00:14:28 How are they getting those through? They're essentially saying if they have, you know, one stamp of approval once, that that should be, they should have legal protection because they'll go bankrupt if they get sued, which is just insane. It's like, well, you should go bankrupt. Like you should, you know. So people ask all the time, they get sued, which is just insane. It's like, well, you should go bankrupt. Like you should, you know, so people ask all the time,
Starting point is 00:14:48 they're like, reporters will ask me, what do you have to say to big companies that are really worried about going out of business? And I'm like, they have nothing to worry about as long as they're not knowingly harming the American people. Yeah, that's the key word, knowingly, right? Yeah, knowingly.
Starting point is 00:15:04 And yeah, they shouldn't have anything to worry about. Bobby is not gonna make junk food illegal. He's not gonna wipe away pharma. He hasn't yet. He's not going to. He's just gonna ensure that people know what they're putting in their bodies and big companies aren't profiting
Starting point is 00:15:20 off people being sicker and sicker. Yeah. Was the make people healthy again, always the main selling point from the start? Or did that kind of come along later? You know, it's funny because I had never heard make America healthy again. We played around with like make Earth great again on the campaign, which people really liked. But it wasn't until August 23rd, 2024, I'll never forget, Bobby
Starting point is 00:15:41 joined President Trump on stage in Phoenix and said, don't you want a president that's going to make America healthy again? And by the end of the day, people were selling merch, people set up websites like it really took off. And now I can't imagine maha not being something that we say every day. It's so recognizable. You know, I wear my hats, the airport, things like that. And everyone's like, I love Maha.
Starting point is 00:16:06 You know, from both sides of the aisle, we've been at Republican conventions, like I mentioned. We've been at, we were at Expo West in LA with a lot of kind of more liberal leaning people and companies and everybody was coming up to us wanting a hat, wanting to get involved, wanting to attach their brand to get involved, wanting to attach their brand to Maha in some way. It's gotten a huge audience and it was one of those
Starting point is 00:16:31 things that nobody could have planned. Bobby just caught up and said it, which was incredible. That's beautiful. You also got Cali Means and Vanny Hari just rocking with you guys. Totally rocking. I mean, I think that they they've been so instrumental of this in this movement and in so many ways for so many years, but they really brought a whole new audience to Maha and to Bobby and to President Trump, too. You know, this people, you know, we call them the granola moms. But it's more than that. They're thinking about food and and Callali and Vani and people like that are
Starting point is 00:17:06 they're very, they're very knowledgeable on food ingredients and what needs to change legislation, all of that. They bring people in and then people start listening to Bobby or Del Big Tree, our CEO, and pretty soon they're learning more and more about
Starting point is 00:17:20 these, this sort of profit model that, you know, for pharma and vaccines and things like that. So I think it's brought a whole new wave of people into this and ultimately has made it more mainstream. I thought it was a brilliant marketing strategy partnering with those food influencers because they get a ton of views on social media. Totally.
Starting point is 00:17:40 Like I see them every day on my feed. Yeah. They're getting hundreds of millions of views. So that was a great community too. Totally a huge community and one that's so passionate. They will set aside 40 hours a week to go stand on the side of the road with a sign that's you know, did you know that X, Y and Z is in your kids lunches? It's incredible.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Yeah. People are really starting to wake up and learn. And I think our next task is reaching people in rural areas and food deserts that aren't being heard and not being educated. And even if they are being educated, there's this whole like, well, then what do I eat? Like I said, like we have to give people alternatives. We have to empower people. We have to empower people. We have to help people restore ownership of their own health.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Yep. You know, there's some places where you go and it's everybody just looks unhealthy. Everybody lives an unhealthy lifestyle. Like there's no emphasis on nutrition or fitness. Absolutely. To really move the needle in the time that we have, we have to reach those people too. Yeah. When I saw Callie and Vanny testifying at Congress, I was like, oh my gosh, times are
Starting point is 00:18:51 changing. Like these influencers really have a voice these days. I've never seen that before. Right. Right. Like when did influencers go and do Senate hearings? Senator Ron Johnson has been a huge ally and has put those together. And yeah, it's, it's there. And they really represent the people, like people look up to people like
Starting point is 00:19:09 Callie and Vani and Bobby and Dell. And yeah, I think it's huge to have to have those voices, both on the government side of things and just from an educational standpoint. Yeah. Yeah. The Kellogg's petition. Yeah. How many signatures did that thing get? I think it ended up with like 300,000 signatures that they hand delivered to the
Starting point is 00:19:32 Kellogg's headquarters, freezing cold, middle of nowhere, Michigan. And then, you know what? Six weeks later, the FDA announces it's banning red food, red number six or red number five, or something like that. It's that shows us the power of this kind of grassroots law being grassroots legislative advocacy. I mean, it really is so loud when people, people like that rally together. Yeah. And demand change. Yeah. And then the heavy metals inside of the Lunchables, that was a big deal.
Starting point is 00:20:01 I'm not sure if they change their ingredients yet, but. Yeah. Lunchables is a big one because I mean, Lunchables is similar to others where it's totally marketed toward kids. You know, they have like toys in there. It's like the bright colors. It's like food is not supposed to look like Play-Doh. It reminds me of like those little Play-Doh. The kids like Play-Doh toys that are like, oh, make a stand.
Starting point is 00:20:21 Like it's like a restaurant model. That's literally what Lunchables reminds me of. Just plastic I used to eat it. Oh Sam. Yeah, phenomenal. It used to taste amazing I probably would hate it now. Yeah, right, right. It's and it's like once you Once you know what's in things like that You're thinking of it and we're seeing people So much more conscious of what they're putting in their bodies now All it takes is a 30 second ad or one minute ad, two minute ad, whatever on what's really in these foods.
Starting point is 00:20:50 And then all of a sudden. And that's the first step is just making people aware of it. Yeah. So, yeah, I probably wouldn't like it anymore. But I used to love Lunchables. I used to love things like that. What was your go to Lunchable? I think I liked the Nacho one the most.
Starting point is 00:21:03 The Nacho one. I like the sandwich one. Oh, the sandwich one was fun. I was fire. I was like building things. So, yeah, I did like the sandwich one. The cheese was so good. Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, it's it's it's so attractive to kids and delicious. And then they don't want to eat vegetables or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:21:19 And did you see the lunchly lunch with Mr. Beast and Logan Paul? No, you didn't see that one. No, I haven't. Oh, they made like a Lunchables competitor Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, wow, but they're not using the best ingredients. So yeah, it's a little concerning We'll have to audit that You guys do that. Do you do like audits? Not yet, but I think eventually that would be a really cool Kind of series we talked about that
Starting point is 00:21:42 We're also talking about building a maha kind of series we've talked about that. We're also talking about building a Maha certification directory. So, you know, there's several other platforms that have things like, okay, you know, find the best, what's the best water bottle at the gas station? You know, you scan the water bottle. Yeah, that one. And then there's several others that do very specific things, but there's not one that's kind of all encompassing. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:06 So we're thinking about a Maha certified program, which would require first defining what counts as Maha certified and what doesn't. That'd be great. Taking into account where things are grown. Just because it's organic doesn't mean it's good. That's one example. It goes so deep. So it'll be a big long-term project, but also Maha certified providers.
Starting point is 00:22:29 So you know, you just moved to a new city and you want to find a good functional medicine doctor or an integrative health coach or a chiropractor, anything like that. You just put in your zip code and get tons of referrals. Yeah. But in the meantime, I think a sort of Maha audit series would be really fun. I mean, we've done sort of things like that here and there.
Starting point is 00:22:51 But, you know, and Edvani and Callie do such a great job of that to Alex Clark as well. Yeah, she's she's great. Yeah, they're all great. I like this one app called Sea Dwell Scout.
Starting point is 00:23:02 That's a great one. I use that all the time. And now they're doing like consumer goods. So they'll haveweller Scout. That's a great one. Yeah, that's the one I use all the time. And now they're doing like consumer goods. So they'll have a sticker if it's Sea-Dweller free. Oh, wow. OK. I didn't know they were doing a sticker now. Yeah, they just announced that. OK, amazing.
Starting point is 00:23:14 Because there's a learning curve when you're getting into this to like, oh, is this actually healthy or not? Right. There's so many different ingredients. Yeah. And it's overwhelming. And people don't have time. Like health, I think, is is really comes down to scheduling and finding time to learn of these things. You know, that's why people get so overwhelmed. They're like, OK, well, you're telling me I can't have this, I can't have that.
Starting point is 00:23:34 There's like 10 different stickers. You know, people don't have time to look over every ingredient list. And that's where that's where we need to hold these these big food companies accountable. Like they need to if they're saying that something's healthy and they're marketing it to kids and they're essentially knowingly hiding things like natural flavors is a great one. But people see natural flavors and they're like, oh, natural flavors. That's good. OK, moving on.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Don't have time to read between the lines. There's sometimes like a hundred different chemical additives that go into creating a natural flavor. Like, it's not it's not natural, you know. And so anything that's things like that, it's like, why are we allowed to call it, you know, using these blanket statements? Yeah. Healthy, organic or, you, or heart healthy is another big one. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:24:30 They don't tell you about the glyphosate, but they'll say it's heart healthy. Yeah, yeah. So I think it's all about transparency and education and really empowering people to know kind of what to look out for. I mean, I always say if you can't pronounce it, it's probably not good.
Starting point is 00:24:44 Agreed, yeah, that's probably not a good read. Yeah, that's a good rule of thumb. Yeah, because these labels are so misleading. I just found out about grass fed. It just means they were fed grass once. Yeah. Like their whole life, they could have been fed corn, GMI corn, but if they got fed grass once,
Starting point is 00:24:57 it's considered grass fed. Right, and it doesn't mean that they're free range. Like they can be totally, you know, kept inside of a cage their whole life, which is. There's so many terms for the eggs now. I remember when I was a kid, there wasn't any terms and now there's like 40 different terms. It's crazy. Yeah. And so we have to, and I think that's where Maha comes in and other organizations like Maha, like while Bobby and his team in government are cleaning up these regulatory agencies, you know, creating regulations so that companies are have to be held accountable and have to, you know,
Starting point is 00:25:31 increase transparency on their products. It's our job to educate people in the meantime, because we can move a lot quicker in a lot of ways. Yeah. Just with getting on the ground and talking to people and also hearing from them. Like I learned from people every single day what their individual hurdles are, you know, with school lunches.
Starting point is 00:25:50 I just talked to this woman in Dallas whose kids go to a private school in a really nice area and part of their program is the parents volunteer to help the kids, you know, use their meal card to check out or whatever. And they're, after second grade, help the kids, you know, use their meal card to check out or whatever. And they're after second grade, the parents are not allowed to encourage the kids to put back a bag of chips and grab something differently.
Starting point is 00:26:14 It's like they can fill their tray with Mountain Dew and Starburst. And the parents are not allowed to say anything. That's like one tiny example of like, you know, and that's in a very affluent private school and she's like one tiny example of like, you know, and that's in a very affluent private school and she's seeing more and more kids are, you know, falling asleep in class in the afternoon, they're misbehaving and then they're putting, put on Adderall right away. No, like, okay, how about let's like, come on, it's Captain Obvious, look at what the kids eating for lunch.
Starting point is 00:26:40 So. They tried putting me on that in fourth grade. Yeah. And looking back at it now is definitely diet issue. Yeah, totally. You know, 100 percent. Right. Yeah. I was eating candy. I was eating chips. I was drinking sodas.
Starting point is 00:26:53 You know, as a kid that can just make you go crazy, I guess. Right. I mean, your blood sugar. I'm not like an expert in this stuff, but your blood sugar is like and then you crash. There's no sustainable source of energy and then your body's growing and you need more and more nutrition and you're just getting less and less.
Starting point is 00:27:12 And yeah, it's like the easy way out. And we're not, and I think teachers and parents aren't thinking about the long-term effects of being on something like Adderall or Ritalin or Bivance or any of those drugs that are totally, I mean, huge chemical dependency. Yeah. Yeah. I'm curious about the censorship stuff. Are you guys still dealing with that? Because I've had a ton of like health videos get taken down or shadow banned. Yeah. I mean, it's definitely been better lately, I'd say. There was a period of time during Bobby's campaign where every time somebody reposted
Starting point is 00:27:49 this Who is Bobby Kennedy documentary, it got taken down for violating community standards. This was mostly on Metta. Violating community standards, sexual and violent content, you know, misinformation. That was the biggest one. Like hundreds and hundreds of hundreds. I think now it's gotten a little better. I mean, our ad account on Metta still gets taken down like every other week. Wow. It's insane.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Even still, it's part of the Maga boom right now. Yeah. Yeah. Which is funny. X was the only platform that has maintained its integrity pretty much. But yeah, Metta is still, I mean, I noticed like, I don't have a huge following, but I noticed when I post something about Bobby, it's not seen as much.
Starting point is 00:28:36 And then you see people's posts getting, it's like false information, see why, you know, those sort of- Yeah, the fact check. Yeah, the fact check. They just removed that though, I think on Meta. They did? Okay. Yeah, a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, you guys haven't seen it in a while.
Starting point is 00:28:49 Thankfully, but. Right. Cause I used to get hit with that one too. Right, totally. But with the photo stuff, it's nuts, cause they definitely have some AI. If they see someone's face, they shadow ban it. Cause when I do anything with Trump or Trump Jr., same thing. Right.
Starting point is 00:29:00 I'm sure if I did one with Bobby, it'd be the same. That's so interesting. I wonder if you did a picture of like the back of him, if it would still. The back, yeah, that'd be interesting. But yeah, now whenever I post clips about Trump or Bobby, I don't post their face. Because I know it's gonna get way less views. Wow. Still now. Still. Wow.
Starting point is 00:29:17 Well, I don't know because Duck's part of the team now. I don't know if they changed it, but... Right. They really should. They should, yeah. I mean, it really affects like... There's still people today that didn't know that Bobby was running for president. I mean, fewer and fewer, but because people go to social media for information and when they can't find anything on someone or it's deemed as misinformation taken down, like they're not getting the same.
Starting point is 00:29:41 It's just totally, it's, I mean, I would argue like, it's disruptive to an election, you know? Oh, it is. Media censorship is the same. It's disruptive. And you were getting hit with the traditional media too. They wouldn't let him debate. Yeah. I think if he debated, he would have left a really good impression. I completely agree. Against Kamala. Yeah, I think so too. I mean, back in the first Trump-Biden debate, they wouldn't let him on. CNN actually changed their standards, their criteria for allowing somebody in a debate
Starting point is 00:30:13 that was, I mean, directly related to... There was... It was like, OK, you have to be polling at above 15 percent in the last six weeks, I'm six weeks or four weeks or something like that. But the reliable polls do not include Harvard Harris. And Bobby had 16 or 17 percent, 18 percent. Wow. So they singled the one out here. Yeah. And CNN cites Harvard Harris all of the time.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Wow. So either they're trying to keep somebody off a debate stage or they are knowingly lying or using a non reliable polling method to their viewers. I think all the polls would be us to be honest. Yeah. Like if you look at them, they're never accurate. Totally. Totally. And I think a big part of that too, and you know, this is a guess leading up to the election. It looked way closer than it actually was, like way close. She was leading in some of them. Right. And so everybody's kind of, you know, we're feeling good about it, but we're also like, oh man, this is really neck and neck.
Starting point is 00:31:15 I think a lot of people when they get called, like they didn't want to say that they were voting for Trump. There was still this sort of like weird feeling with saying it. So we actually put out an ad that was like, what happens if the voting booth stays in the voting booth? You know, you want to vote for Trump. That's smart. Yeah, there is some shame. Right. Totally.
Starting point is 00:31:34 Yeah. So I just wonder like, you know, Bobby was pulling like 20% at one point, what that would number, what that number would look like, one, if he wasn't censored so much and two, if the polls were somehow more accurate. Wow. 20% insane. Yeah. Like a lot of the polling companies they call and they wouldn't even list Bobby as, as, okay, they're like, if the election were held today, would you vote for
Starting point is 00:31:58 Biden or Trump? Like we have recordings. People would record when they would get these calls. And, and they would list, they would say, or other, and, and it would require the person actually saying Bobby's name and some of them, or it would say, you know, Trump, Biden, and then it would go, you would have to say other, and then it would give you a whole notherless like Jill Stein, et cetera. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:20 Um, so I think, yeah, the, the, the methodology is also a huge problem. I'm also not a fan of how much money you need to run for presidency. You need nine figures at least. Yeah. It's crazy. Like over a hundred million, then that's on the low end. There's been billionaires that lost like tons of money. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:38 And that's just to even run for president. Right. It's, it's crazy. It's like, we should be amplifying these people that have, you know, worked in their local and state legislatures for a while. Like they don't have a ton of money. Yeah. That's why anyone independent never makes a dent even not even one, two percent. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:57 And the ballot access stuff, it's like huge, huge financial commitment as well. Just in terms of the legal, on the legal side of things and then, you know, just even figuring out the requirements. Yeah. Reaching out to every single secretary of state, having a team on the ground, actually getting the signatures, you know, running that, organizing the petition papers. It was, it was crazy that the hurdles, but I mean, it just speaks to the passion and the commitment of this movement. People, you would think it was their full-time job.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Yeah. Yeah. You guys had to have your own debate. That's the point it got to. Yeah, which was awesome. I mean, that was really cool. We actually planned that with 48 hours until the... Really?
Starting point is 00:33:42 Yeah, we had gone back and forth on doing it or not. And we were still really trying to push and forth on doing it or not. And, you know, we were still really trying to push and get Bobby on the on the CNN stage. And we pulled that off. It was a logistical, I mean, production beast.
Starting point is 00:33:55 Just, you know, start stopping. I'm not a producer, but our team was I mean, they were they were so on it. And I think it came out. I think we had 11 million views, 11 million views on X alone. Yeah. It looks super legit, high quality.
Starting point is 00:34:08 Thank you. Yeah, it was fun. Yeah, he crushed it. Yeah, it was amazing. I mean, we're watching that. You were like, how could you not let this guy speak or, you know, cover him on the news or why are you calling everything he's saying misinformation and silencing his supporters? And yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:27 When you see liberals calling Trump a threat to democracy, what goes through your head? I just think it's hilarious because the DNC sued, tried to sue Bobby so many times for, for things like, you know, the petition paper being incorrect or starting to collect signatures a day early or one case the the pages Of signatures were folded things like that. They you know allocated so much money To just keeping Bobby off the ballot. They did the same thing with Trump in Colorado, you know, it's it's totally corrupt It's totally anti-democracy. It's like, if your one strategy to win is just keeping everybody else off of the ballot, how is that a democracy?
Starting point is 00:35:12 So I just think it's hilarious. And the whole way Kamala got just straight to the top, that doesn't seem democratic to me. Right. Right. Not a single primary vote. I mean, it's crazy. And even though Bobby was pulling more votes from Trump than Harris, we never got a single challenge from the right. Not a single one. Really?
Starting point is 00:35:31 Yeah. There's no like adversaries or. Nope. Yeah. It was all, I mean, it was all coming from the left and you know, Trump and Bobby coming together, it's like they had so much that they agreed on. Yeah, it was a really, really beautiful alliance. Be your own people sometimes.
Starting point is 00:35:50 Yeah, definitely. Dang. Was that a big change for you or were you conservative growing up or what's the back on there? Yeah. So I grew up in San Francisco with the most liberal classmate dynamic you can imagine. Oh yeah, San Fran. Yeah, my parents are conservative, you know, Trump signed on their lawn, everything like that. So I always just avoided politics. I thought it was just a means to conflict and I just hated it.
Starting point is 00:36:17 So it's so funny that I ended up here. So for me, Bobby joining Trump just represented the closest thing to a unity ticket that we've ever seen before, you know, bringing in Tulsi Gabbard, Elon and, you know, the freedom forces, we were calling it for a while. We had these really cool stickers with them as superheroes. Yeah, it just it just represented this this unifying movement like we've never seen before. It's so transformative, you know, two people running against each other, coming together and putting aside their differences for the health and well-being of this country. I think that they probably were able to relate to the censorship and, and, you know, first amendment infringements a lot and, and the health issue,
Starting point is 00:37:04 of course. So it wasn't at all weird for me. I lot, and the health issue, of course. So it wasn't at all weird for me. I mean, thinking about, we're one day trying to figure out how to beat somebody and how to get more numbers and up our chances. And then the next we're trying to help somebody win by getting our Bobby supporters over to Trump, which is what we did for the
Starting point is 00:37:25 eight weeks leading up to the election, focusing on battleground states where they wouldn't let Bobby off the ballot, which is another just hilarious thing. Nevada was one of them, right? Nevada, yeah, Wisconsin, Arizona, Michigan, I believe. Yes, they wouldn't let him off, So he wouldn't steal votes, right? Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And so it's it just speaks to the just anti-democratic process. It's like, OK, you're not letting somebody on the ballot.
Starting point is 00:37:55 But wait, all of a sudden that, you know, they join forces with Trump. Now we're not letting you off the ballot. It's crazy. Really, just they were just making up the rules on the fly, which is so not right. And it's not fair to voters. It's not fair to candidates. It's not it's not a fair process at all. So I think them coming together, it was I mean, it was it was beautiful and it was
Starting point is 00:38:19 really best case scenario. Bobby's focused on on on these health agencies and making America healthy again, making our food healthy again, making our water environment healthy again. And Trump's in there doing his thing. Like he's been doing so well. I've never seen so many people on the left transition. It seemed like record numbers. Right. It must've been a record actually.
Starting point is 00:38:40 Yeah, it's crazy. I think that was like the record number of new counties that went red this cycle. And the right one, the popular vote, which hasn't happened in a while. Yeah, I think it's just becoming the common sense party. Really, it's like, you know, the left has become so intolerant and the right has become. Yeah, it's just common sense. Like, boys should not be playing sports, for example. They finally got that one. Yeah, I know. They got an as a for example. I finally got that one.
Starting point is 00:39:05 Yeah, I know they got an as a college athlete. That was a huge one. Those you were swimming, right? I played volleyball volleyball. Yeah, beach volleyball at Pepperdine. Yeah. And that girl got a concussion from that one guy. It's basically spiking it. Right. Yeah. I knew people who were on track to get a huge pack, 12 or other huge scholarship.
Starting point is 00:39:23 And then there is a biological man that came in and could obviously hit the ball way harder. Wow. And pretty soon the coaches would drop them. That's crazy. Yeah. So it's, I mean, that's like your whole life when you're playing a sport like that and getting recruited. It's your whole entire. Dedicated your whole 20 years of high school, middle school.
Starting point is 00:39:44 Yeah. You know? And then all of a sudden somebody who's not even a female comes and takes that away from you. It's crazy. So it's, I mean, it's common sense, the border stuff, common sense. Like it's all common sense. Putting somebody like Bobby Kennedy in charge of our regulatory agencies who knows the chronic
Starting point is 00:40:02 disease epidemic in and out and has dedicated his life to solving it. It's common sense. Yeah. We got to fix our mental health crisis too. Yeah. Oh, that's huge. I mean, it's crazy. It's, you know, I think it's one in four women are on an antidepressant medication. 40% of teenagers have a mental health diagnosis, which is crazy. I mean, one, yes, mental health is at an all time low, but it's also just this increase of diagnosing teenagers when they have depression or anxiety. It's like, that's often a very situational thing.
Starting point is 00:40:42 Like, why are we putting kids in a box and then prescribing them something that they're then learning to externalize their ability to self-regulate and self-soothe and be resilient, you know? So I think that we need to think about things like nutrition, fitness, community. You know, the opposite of addiction is community. The opposite of suicide is community. And think about about rather than just, you know, somebody saying that they had a bad day and then prescribing them something that they're going to be on forever and has incredibly intense side effects. Why, why not support them?
Starting point is 00:41:18 You know, why not create programs and schools where people can talk about these things it's, and they're not, you're not put on this mind numbing medication. It's, yeah. I think these labels are dangerous too. Cause once you get told you have depression and anxiety, you're just gonna start saying that every day and start believing it. We're creating victims.
Starting point is 00:41:36 We're creating this nature of victimizing people and allowing them to victimize themselves. And it's the opposite of empowerment. It's the opposite of empowerment. It's the opposite of resilience. It's teaching people that they cannot be resilient on their own. They need this product that's making this big company millions and billions and trillions of dollars, you know, because then they're just going to start saying they have anxiety and they won't do certain tasks and then they'll use
Starting point is 00:42:02 that as a card and think about that generation 20 years from now, what that looks like, you know, where people aren't working, people, the American dream, you know, work hard, make money, have a family, like that's just gone. It's really scary. One, the physical side effects of some of these things. And two, just the sort of culture shift it's creating. I also didn't want to talk about the infant mortality rate. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:31 50 times higher than every other industrial nation combined. Why do you think that's so high? I just heard that stat the other day and I've been thinking about it so much. I mean, I think one, it's, and this is what I've heard, I want to do a deep dive into this, but I think it's access to hospitals. A lot of hospitals in rural areas are closing because the, or they're closing their their maternity unit because it's too expensive to maintain. And so then, you know, moms are rushing to the hospital.
Starting point is 00:43:05 They don't have. They don't have access to health care. Wow. So the, you know, the health care that they need when having a baby and think about how that affects the baby, I think it's also probably what pregnant women are eating. I think it's medications they're on. I think it's the environment, water, food, you know, everything like that. Yeah, that number is shocking.
Starting point is 00:43:29 And I think that number alone speaks to how dire this issue is. And it just doesn't make sense. There's no reason why America should have babies that are dying at 50 times. Yeah. 50 times higher than every other industrialization combined. Clearly there's something wrong. Yeah. I also just found out a lot of nurses are incentivized to do C-sections because it's
Starting point is 00:43:53 safer for the hospital. They don't want to get sued. Wow. So the first time they see like a red flag when the baby's coming out, they'll just say, oh, C-section to prevent getting sued. Oh my gosh. It's insane. Yeah. And it's, they're just protecting themself.
Starting point is 00:44:06 Like these hospitals are just protecting themselves and not protecting the, their patients or their providers even, you know? No, it's super concerning. I'm at the point now where if I have kids, I'm not going to go to a hospital. Yeah. Like I'm at that point. Right. Cause just the more I learned, the more I'm like, what the heck?
Starting point is 00:44:22 They also charge you like $20,000. I mean, most families cannot afford that. That's crazy. Right. And then these private insurance companies are just totally benefiting. And you know, the more you prescribe, the more people are having to pay for medications and pay for healthcare. And then the complications of healthcare and all of that gets more and more expensive.
Starting point is 00:44:45 And so we're incentivizing providers essentially to diagnose more, prescribe more, and care less. Like we have a sick care system. We don't have a healthcare system. It's reactive. You know, 90% of what we spend in this country on health care is attributed to chronic disease. Like once people already have a chronic disease, it's totally, it's totally reactive versus proactive. Oh, 100%. When I go to the doctor now, I'm in there for like seven minutes.
Starting point is 00:45:14 Right. And there's an hour line to get in. Yeah. And how can you really know how somebody is doing and and support them if you're seeing them for seven minutes, not even looking them in the eye. They don't even remember you the next time you show up. It's crazy. Yeah, it's nuts. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:31 And they're just rushing through and there's no individual approach to the patient. And then, yeah, the over prescription thing is a huge problem too, because again, how can you know in seven minutes if somebody needs to be on medication? When I was in college, I got Xanax in like three minutes of meeting the doctor. I never met him before. My dad brought me and I got it instantly. He probably didn't even know my name.
Starting point is 00:45:56 Right. Yeah. I mean, it's, yeah, it's crazy. And I think that problem got a lot worse over COVID. I think, I don't think that the level of ADHD increased that much compared to how much the Adderall usage did. It's just like telehealth and telemedicine made it so much easier for kids to go on and just say, I have trouble focusing. You know, I think telemedicine is actually a really good thing. I think it's going to help people in rural areas with access to health care tremendously. But I think for things like prescribing a 16 year old Adderall for the first
Starting point is 00:46:30 time, that needs to be more of a process. So you can get it on the phone now? Yeah, you can totally get it on the phone. Wow. And there's no assessment or survey or anything like that. That's nuts. I mean, I've seen my friends do it. It's like, oh yeah, I've just, you know, I'm having trouble focusing. And then, boom, they have a prescription.
Starting point is 00:46:46 Oh, my gosh. Yeah. So crazy to me. And then one thing leads to another, like you're put on something like Adderall, which stimulant and then you can't wind down. So then you're given Xanax or Trasadone to go to sleep. Then you're kind of just this zombie. And then, you know, suicidality increases, things like that. And then you're put on Lexapro and it's just never ending. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:08 I think the average elderly is on like, what is it? Seven or eight different things now. Yeah, it's it's crazy. And middle aged people like how many people do we know that just are on have to take their medication all day long or something just seriously wrong? No, I don't want to live like that. Yeah, exactly. Well, Brid's been awesome.
Starting point is 00:47:25 Any upcoming events, initiatives for Maha? Yeah, so we're in Phoenix, Arizona, tomorrow at the Capitol. We're working on building out this college program where different colleges will have their Maha chapters and clubs. So we'll be going and speaking at a lot of colleges. We've also just been getting the word out
Starting point is 00:47:44 and speaking at a lot of colleges. We've also just been getting the word out and speaking at a lot of different events, you know, just really taking every opportunity to expand our MAHA army and our MAHA audience, you know, both Republican and Democrat events, but also just health conventions, school, school conventions, things like that, any opportunity to get the word out. We've been we've been doing so. I love it. We'll link the websites below. Thanks for coming on. Yeah, thanks for having me. Check her out guys. Check out the Maha movement. I'll see you next time.

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