Digital Social Hour - The Truth About Electrolytes: Don't Fall for This Myth | Brendan Ruh DSH #878

Episode Date: November 11, 2024

The truth about electrolytes might surprise you! 🤯 Join Sean Kelly on the Digital Social Hour as he uncovers the myths and facts behind electrolytes with expert Brendan from Santa Cruz Medicals. ��� Discover why sodium, potassium, and magnesium are crucial for athletes, and how the right balance can revolutionize your workouts. 🚴‍♂️ Brendan shares eye-opening stories about common misconceptions surrounding salt and reveals the science-backed benefits of raw milk and red meat in our diets. 🥩🥛 Don't miss out on this episode packed with valuable insights on gut health, mental wellness, and practical tips for a balanced lifestyle. 🌟 Tune in now and join the conversation! Watch now and subscribe for more insider secrets. 📺 Hit that subscribe button and stay tuned for more eye-opening stories on the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! 🚀 Keywords: Digital Social Hour, Sean Kelly, Podcast, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Electrolytes, Brendan, Santa Cruz Medicals, Health. #carnivorediet #electrolytes #electrolyteimbalance #redmeatmyths #drericberg #drericberg #nutritionmythsbusted #electrolytes #potassium #dietitian CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Santa Cruz Medicinals 00:52 - Liquid IV Issues 03:22 - Benefits of Raw Milk 04:59 - BetterHelp Review 06:49 - Xanax Concerns 08:51 - Shampoo Myths 11:12 - Red Meat Truths 14:22 - Organic Food Value 15:32 - Seed Oil Controversy 19:05 - Brain Scan Insights 19:30 - Jiu-Jitsu Fascinating Story 23:06 - Acupuncture Benefits 24:26 - Eggs and Cancer Risk 26:13 - Understanding Parasites 28:05 - Accutane Effects 29:54 - Sunscreen Efficacy 31:20 - Veganism Discussion 34:05 - Supplement Intake Guidelines 37:40 - Xylitol Benefits 38:26 - Sugar Impact 39:14 - Brandon’s Products Guide APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: [e-mail] GUEST: Brendan Ruh https://www.instagram.com/santacruzmedicinals/ SPONSORS: BetterHelp: https://www.betterhelp.com/DSH LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Yeah, they're insane. And you know, it's because it just attracts a lot of people. The answer is to eat real food. We know the answer. There's a species-appropriate diet. You can make little tweaks. Human beings can thrive off a lot of different things. It's a the answer. There's a species appropriate diet. You can make little tweaks. Human beings can thrive off a lot of different things. It's a simple answer.

All right guys, finally made it happen. We got Brendan from Santa Cruz Medicals here today. We got the electrolytes in here. Yeah, we're sipping on the electrolytes. Which flavor did you grab? I got dragon fruit and it tastes amazing, man. That's all really easily. That's our best seller.

I'm sending like pallets to Amazon at this point. Dude, so Amazon's crushing it for you? Amazon is crushing it. Yeah, I just you know People love Amazon Prime. They just love it so easy one day Like when I get comments like I ordered your electrolytes and I got them the next day I just I love that dude sometimes like hours. Oh I live right next to one. So yeah, same day delivery. Nothing's like it So how does this differentiate from like zip zip fiz from the other electrolyte drinks? Yeah So the big thing with electrolytes is you're losing sodium and potassium at about a 3.5 milligram to 1 milligram ratio

We in this country have scared people about salt intake. I'm sure you've heard it limit your salt intake Oh, and people say they're trying to get healthy. They're trying to reduce their amount of sodium That's not really right for people who are athletic. And have you heard about the study that they did on the Philadelphia Eagles? No. Okay, so during training camp with the Eagles, they attached these like devices to them and monitored their sweat loss to figure out what they were actually losing in their sweat. Now given this was like, you know, a hard training session, this was outdoors, they're

probably sweating a lot and these are some big boys. They were losing three on the low side to 30 grams of sodium that's a lot wow you're losing and there's other studies that show an average workout hard workout for athletes seven to eight grams lost in an hour training session with that said the government tells you to only eat 2.2 grams of sodium per day you play basketball you're saying so like you're a big dude you're probably losing multiple grams of sodium per day. You play basketball, you're saying, so like you're a big dude, you're probably losing multiple grams of sodium. So replacing that with the right ratio, because that's what you really want is this ratio of electrolytes. It's not just like you need

one electrolyte, there's a bunch. That's what we have in there. The right ratio of sodium, potassium and magnesium, the right forms, no artificial sweeteners, no bullshit, man. Like liquid IV, everyone sort of liquid IV, they got bought by Unilever and now it's just cane sugar not enough sodium poor forms of magnesium It's just stupid good marketing though really Yeah, and you know they're tasty like when people drink sugar water Which is you know a lot of Americans just like to drink processed sugar right and now it's just being repackaged by liquid IV is Something that's healthy yet. It still just feeds into that craving people have for sugar Mmm, I'd prefer to get that through fruit honey maple syrup stuff like that, but that's what they do and yeah

They are crushing it. That's so not because I used to purposely avoid salt as a kid because they were taught It was they taught us. It was terrible for you. Yeah, it's insane And you know I got my degree in anthropology and like there were wars fought over salt salt is just like Embedded in the history of Homo sapiens like without salt we die and salt regulates hormones like aldosterone Which you ever like gone to the gym and just gotten like that headache kind of nausea feeling so like one of the most common things With salt-based electrolytes which you hear is that people now go to the gym, and they don't get that headache They don't get that nausea when they're lifting and a lot of that's because because of that hormone aldosterone Which is regulated by sodium and potassium mainly and some electrolytes just don't have any salt because they don't want to scare people

Another big thing they push was milk growing up mm-hmm, and that's terrible for you, right? I disagree that I don't think milk is terrible for you. What about the pasteurized one? So there's this whole thing about raw milk lately, and I am a raw milk drinker. Yeah, but what I will say is Besides the taste and probiotics from raw dairy There isn't much Data out there that shows that pasteurized dairy is worse or contains less nutrients than raw milk Hmm, and I've been to a raw milk farm I'm a huge fan of it the fact that our tax dollars are spent going after raw milk farms is insane right I

Personally don't want my tax dollars being spent busting an Amish farm because of raw milk. I was a big one recently Yeah, and it went you know when I see that it's like okay I understand this food can get people sick, but you know there was an influencer couple who? The the woman died from eating oysters recently like last week there were people in Montana last year that died eating sushi So what are we going to do? Are we going to ban sushi, oysters? Like, I think raw milk, they should slap a warning on it, because it can cause foodborne illness, just like other foods.

I do like drinking it because of the taste, and I've been to some of the farms. But overall, dairy is a really good source of calcium, a really good source of vitamin A. Human beings have been drinking it for a long time. And I think if you tolerate tolerate it it is something you should consume. That's an interesting take now Does the type of dairy matter to you? So for some people there's gonna be a to dairy which is gonna be a different form of the casein protein and for some people They can find that more tolerable now people say with raw milk. This is another thing

They say oh it contains the lactase enzyme which helps digest lactose. It's not necessarily true. Again, huge fan of raw milk, it doesn't contain that enzyme in s***. BetMGM, authorized gaming partner of the NBA, has your back all season long. From tip-off to the final buzzer, you're always taken care of with the sportsbook Born in Vegas. That's a feeling you can only get with BetMGM. And no matter your team, your favorite player, or your style, there's something every NBA fan will love about BetMGM. Download the app today and discover why BetMGM is your basketball home for the season. Raise your game to the next level this year with BetMGM, a sportsbook worth a slam dunk and authorized gaming partner of the NBA. BetMGM.com for terms and conditions.

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What people can actually do if they, I fixed my dairy intolerance. So I had a slight intolerance to dairy. And what I did is I actually took digestive enzymes, lactase enzymes. You can find them at Whole Foods, lactose digest enzymes. And I would drink small amounts of stuff like kefir and just eat yogurt, start out stuff that's low in that lactose.

And I'm taking the lactase enzyme, which digest lactose. And so I took that for weeks while consuming small amounts of dairy. And then I just sort of leveled it up as I tapered the enzyme down and now dude I can chug dairy total fun. Yeah, a lot of people have that intolerance now, right? A lot of people and it goes up every single year. Yeah, it does Yeah, more and more food allergies. I think a lot of that just comes from gut dysbiosis leaky gut from all the bullshit

We eat right got issues are all I had constipation for years, dude Yeah, many people do yeah, and I just got normalized to it, but once I fixed that holy shit night and day difference Yeah, man. I think you know like with your health journey. I was listening to you talk about how I Mean you went through issues of anxiety yeah You've been pretty open about how you were prescribed Xanax and like you were given that and you fell into that kind of the system Dude like this is what I'm trying to fight with like my channel. I just had these video game streamers out I'm doing this show called Locked In where I get streamers out.

There's people that are unhealthy. And it's insane what some of these young kids are on. Three or four pharmaceutical interventions that they're on. Geez. It's a problem. I think we're gonna look back on this much like we look back on smoking. Where I'm not like, oh, nobody ever needs that stuff.

It can be useful, right? The fact that any of us right now can go and sit down with a psychiatrist for five ten minutes and be prescribed one of these things Without them checking your vitamin D levels without them even talking to you sometimes about sleep exercise not running a nutrient panel now We know you can actually run tests to see how like your neurotransmitters organic acids tests GI map hormones Is that person's testosterone? Insanely low do they have low vitamin D. Well, maybe we should know that before describing them something like this annex. It's very frustrating Right. My vitamin D was 21 Insane last year. Yeah, that's super low, right? Yeah super low Yeah, and like the traditional recommendation is to be around 50

But you know, I have a functional medicine doctor who says you should be around 60 to 90 Wow Yeah, yeah my tea was pretty low. Yep, and that's common these days for men very calm But I heard D is like what 90% at deficient people right now Yeah And you know like we make a vitamin D And it's one of our best-selling products and I think it's just for the simple reason that people are realizing man like The body is made up of tons of vitamins and minerals

neurotransmitters your gut microbiome all this stuff right and when you have a deficiency You're just lacking and it's not hard to fix vitamin D is extremely affordable right pennies for a capsule So more and more people I think are waking up to this and going would I can go like this and feel better It's pretty simple. Yeah, I want to go through some of your videos because they're very interesting you said shampoo is a scam Yes, shampoo is largely a scam. Yeah. Also? Yeah, so we can get into a lot of stuff

with personal care products. So when I was getting my degree in anthropology, I'm sitting in a class and I have face full of acne. My hair is dry. And some of the classes are about medical anthropology. So looking at anthropologists and different tribes that anthropologists have gone and lived with sometimes, or just conducted research on. There's a couple of things that really astonish me. First we'll talk about acne and skin care in general. There is this anthropologist,

Dr. Stefan Lindberg, and he went and lived with the people in the Catawba Island. And what he noticed was no acne whatsoever. Not in the teenagers, not in the young adults, no acne. Wow. He recorded in his thing not a single pimple, pastoral, nothing. Okay, and he examined over 1200 people there. Damn. Yeah, and their diet was a traditional diet.

Meat, fruit, vegetables, a lot of sweet potatoes, stuff like that. No processed food whatsoever. And we see this over and over again. You can see images of the Maasai people. You can see images of people in the Amazon. Beautiful hair, beautiful skin. And now, in today's society, we're told, hey, to have good skin, your skin is dirty. You need to go to Sephora, you need a whole $600 routine, you know, like, and I had way

worse skin when I was spending money on skincare. All I use now is beef tallow and I have a shower filter because we chlorinate our water. And skin health comes from within. There's the gut-skin axis. You can look this up This is well known your hormones immune function gut function your thyroid all these things regulate your skin health wow yeah Just beef tallow damn and this catching on it's becoming viral now. It's the original skincare. Yeah, it's just moisturizer That's non comedogenic super rich in various vitamins, and it's amazing man. They've marketed lotion so well Oh, yeah, and you know what's. They've marketed lotion so well Oh, yeah

And you know what's funny is in a lot of these lotions when you look at the back you'll see this ingredient stearic acid Which a lot of holistic health people get like oh What the hell stearic acid stearic acid is a fatty acid that is very prevalent in beef. Tello really yeah Oh, yeah, so these companies know this stuff, and they're using some of the compounds from animal fat moisturizers But there's packaging it to you know smell good And you know artificial fragrance in there. It's bullshit putting any urine on your face. I'm not I'm not into the urine therapy You know I know you've had some people on that That's that's not my game. Yeah, that's that's a whole nother level right. Yeah, that's yeah. That's a whole nother level for sure

You made a video truth about red meat. Yeah, it's a controversial one right yeah I think red meat is one of the most controversial things for some reason It baffles me as somebody who studied where we come from and our ancestors First of all what I have to say to everybody is your ancestors ate red meat they they hunted big game They relied on bone marrow they relied on organs And I'm not one of these people eating raw liver with my hands outside. Sometimes I've done it for fun, but I'm not promoting that. We love red meat.

It's deep within us to love red meat. Now people say, well, I saw a headline saying red meat causes cancer, or red meat clogs your arteries. I saw that one. Those studies are done by surveying a bunch of people. Okay, so they're gonna go survey 500,000 people in the United States, and they're gonna say,

do you eat red meat? They're gonna go, yes, I people in the United States, and they're gonna say do you eat red meat? They're gonna go yes, I eat red meat Where's that red meat coming from are they eating grass-fed steaks and working out like you and I are no no they're eating McDonald's reading processed food Then they follow those people for a little bit and they say oh the group that ate red meat had a slightly higher cancer rate Red meat causes cancer. It's insane. That's insanity. Yeah, and like we are designed as omnivores I've seen you have a lot of people on the podcast that are either Fruitarians or the only raw food or you know you have everybody on yeah The fact is we are omnivores our intestinal tract the length of our intestinal tract is right between an herbivore and a carnivore

Mmm. We have a high stomach acidity not insanely high as much as pure carnivores, but pretty close We have a high stomach acidity, not insanely high as much as pure carnivores, but pretty close. We are designed to eat a variety of foods, and that is what I promote on my page and through everything I say is, eat a variety of good foods, but red meat and high quality sources of protein should be what your diet is built around. Yeah. Yeah, I hate how limiting some of these diets are. Yeah, they're insane. And you know, it's because it just attracts a lot of people. Right. When they say, oh, this, know this only this I have the answer No, the answer is to eat real food. We know the answer

There's a species appropriate diet you can make little tweaks human beings can thrive off a lot of different things That's a simple answer. Yeah. Yeah, I know you had some beef with Paul Saladino, right? Yeah, I got a little beef about the plant defense chemical thing for sure. What was that about? Well, he says to avoid vegetables and greens because of plant defense chemicals, beans to potatoes he even avoids. I just cannot see that being a rational piece of advice for a large population at all. First of all, we have always consumed plants. And yes, while there are plant defense chemicals, a lot of these are rendered to almost nothing. Oxalates is something he talks about a lot when you cook potatoes

properly beans properly even greens properly the amount of oxalates in there is going to be so little that a Cup of strawberries oftentimes and raspberries which is something he promotes will have more oxalic acid in there well So it's like okay, you're telling people to avoid oxalates, but you say to eat fruit Well, there's other plant foods that will have less oxalic acid in there The interesting part of this is when people get into the raw greens Juicing spinach and just eating is you know raw broccoli and stuff that actually yeah that can have issues with oxalic acid But any traditional tribe they're cooking their potatoes their beans. They're properly, you know, fermenting them often preparing them We knew this as homo sapiens that there are plant defense chemicals and various traditional

cooking methods can reduce those. Where do you stand on this organic debate? Do you think it's worth paying extra for organic stuff? I do think it's worth paying extra if you can afford it because of glyphosate. We don't know too much about glyphosate right now. We see in studies the occupational exposure, so people that actually have to spray this stuff they have way higher cancer rates and stuff like that. Now the proponents of glyphosate would probably say well what you're gonna consume is so little we've done the studies it's not

gonna cause cancer. I'm very skeptical about glyphosate's effects on our health. I think we will find that it negatively affects our gut microbiome. It's basically an antibiotic okay that they're gonna spray on stuff it's gonna help kill living organisms. I don't think that's we're gonna find that it negatively affects our gut microbiome. It's basically an antibiotic, okay, that they're gonna spray on stuff It's gonna help kill living organisms. I don't think that's we're gonna find that's good for gut health so I try to buy organic when I can What I've realized through my content because like I used to be broke. I used to work at Papa John's I went through college. You know I mean like You can't just buy organic all the time and some of those things are sprayed with organic pesticides

So what I tell people is if you can get some frozen berries at the store that are organic and do everything else non-organic, you know. Right. Those berries are expensive if you don't buy them frozen. Crazy, bro. Oh my gosh. I'm all frozen berries now because like berries will go bad quick and the organic ones were like $8.99 for a little thing.

It's insane. Yeah, it is. You also had a seed oil debate with Dr. Ids. That was interesting to me. Yeah. Yeah, the seed oil debate. Yeah, I didn't see many people defending seed oils, but he actually did, right? Yeah, yeah, so seed oils is definitely one of the most controversial topics right now ever. Seed oils didn't exist in the, you know, in the world and people weren't consuming them until about the 1950s. Before then people have consumed ghee, which is, you know, butter basically, grass-fed butter, coconut oil, beef tallow, olive oil, and oil is not a seed it's a fruit. So in comes these

seed oils okay because they are cheap they're made from the seeds of oftentimes the rape seed plant which is canola oil crazy name and they didn't want to call it rape seed so a lot of it's made in Canada so they made canola oil that's where that comes from. Wow. Soybean oil, corn oil. Now's where that comes from. Wow soybean oil corn oil Now I am a hater on seed oils, but what I will say is I'll sometimes eat them I'll go to Chipotle they use seed oils. Okay. It is what it is I'm not somebody that thinks a little bit of seed oil is gonna throw off your whole diet Now to say that there is no concern about seed oils is crazy

There is a researcher out of Japan and Tetsumori Yamashima And he's published a lot of research on how he believes. He's a neurosurgeon, by the way, a neurobiologist, very intelligent dude, and his papers are about how sea-to-oils can cause Alzheimer's. Wow. And he's really worried about it. So to say, oh, nobody's concerned about this is just crazy. They're a heavily processed food. If you're somebody who's trying to eat less highly processed food Then you would want to eat less seed oils Hmm also we've gone gotten to a point where most Americans are eating five tablespoons of highly processed Seed oils and their diet so I don't think that's a good change. It hasn't boded well with just our health overall

But I'm not somebody who is telling people eliminate seat oils from your diet a hundred percent It's just really difficult to do in today's world super Super difficult. I was surprised when Lane Norton defended it too actually. Yeah well so the proponents say this, C2Ls have been shown to reduce LDL cholesterol. Saturated fat does increase your cholesterol. This is what they've shown. And people are saying, well if you have high cholesterol you are at risk of dropping dead of a heart attack. So thus, replacing the saturated fat, which is the other option basically with Cedals is a positive because your LDL is gonna go down. I think that topic is still up for debate I think would be a fair thing to say and

just from where I come from you know studying anthropology studying how human beings have lived seeing tribes that have thriving health this myth that we all died at age 30 is completely wrong ask any Anthropologists, that's just not true really 100% no our ancestors lived Long lives that they made it past early age Wow 100% So Western medicine has come in and helped us a lot if you get a cut and you get an infection If you break a bone back, then you could die Western medicine is amazing for that But to say all of our ancestors just passed away at the age of 30 that's not true when you factor in infant mortality if they live

past a certain age they would often live to 60 70 80 years old interesting yeah what also interests me about that time period is they had no cavities yeah yeah yeah so like western prices research i think is what you're referring to yeah the jaw structure the teeth there's you know nutrients help all parts of our body and these people are getting good nutrition. Yeah, dude. It's crazy I went to the dentist last week. I had seven cavities, and I'm pretty healthy like that's that's pretty nuts Yeah, like it is it's like fake sugar. Yeah, when did you start getting like healthy was it sort of around? I would say two years ago the podcast helped a ton with that yeah I'm just having people on that are interested in health I went a littleistic. Yeah, then like you you're just saying you need to be dialed in

Yeah, you're having people on the podcast like boom boom boom you want your brain to function properly And you probably realize how like what you eat affects that. Oh, yeah speaking of brain. I got a brain scan Have you done that yet? I've done pre nuvo. I haven't done a brain scan. How was pre nuvo pre nuvo is cool Yeah, very fascinating anything concerning or nothing concerning. Yeah, some people find cancer when they do that one Yeah, no, I'm in the back of my mind. I was worried. I'm like damn scary kind of going in there But no, they're like, oh you got a little wear and tear on your knees and shoulders I'm like, yeah, I do jujitsu or surf like of course. So yeah, it's totally fine. Speaking of jujitsu You got an event out here next month. You're going to so yeah

They're this is the most fascinating story ever that's happened in Jiu-Jitsu in the history of Jiu-Jitsu. There is an event every two years in Las Vegas called ADCC. This is the Olympics of Jiu-Jitsu. It's backed by Saudi money and it is just the most legendary thing in Jiu-Jitsu ever. These dudes come into Vegas from all across the world. It started out as like the UFC style so there was like different grappling. There's like a wrestler versus Jiu-Jitsu guy a judo guy versus a wrestler like it was just to find out who the best Grappler was. Jiu-Jitsu obviously kind of took that over and It was just it's the Olympics, bro. So this year they go, you know what? We're so big now

We're getting a T-Mobile arena. Yeah. Yeah, so then what happens is this guy Craig Jones. He's one of the best grapplers out there He's like, you know top 20. Got a gray hair. No, he doesn't have gray hair. Okay. He's like he's out of his mind He's an Australian dude. It was just like crazy, right? He comes in he says ADCC isn't paying its athletes enough. Hmm. They only give you $10,000 if you win nothing to show up It's just prestige. Wow, so come here you win Oh, you'll be able to make a bunch of money if you win ADCC or do well, right? Craig Jones said, wait, why don't I hold the competition on the same weekend in Las Vegas,

but I'm gonna give people, if they win their bracket, one million dollars. So he's developed four brackets, he has a million dollars to the winner of those brackets, and then people start dropping out of ADCC for the chance to win a million dollars. And he has pissed off, I wouldn't be surprised if the dude goes missing He's pissed off like big Saudi money who has just written with ADCC and built this thing up and now

August 16th there's gonna be two competitions going on one at T-Mobile Arena one at Thomas Mac right down the road They're both jiu-jitsu competitions and the athletes have been dropping out of ADCC and going to see John being like sorry ADCC I want to go win a million dollars, so holy crap. It's insane. Which one are you going to I'm gonna go to both You're just a fan of the sport. Yeah, I'm a fan of sport for sure used to compete I've done like like local competitions and stuff, but dude I recommend everybody getting to jiu-jitsu. Okay. Yeah I've somehow even though I'm horrible at jiu-jitsu. I have put so many people on to going to jiu-jitsu I'll check it out. We'll stop by yeah, you should start you should start it dude I'm telling you good to be tall and you just do though. Yeah, some tall people are really good You know triangle chokes with your legs

There's leg lock games where it helps to have long limbs stuff like dorsh chokes helps to have long limbs When I tell people there's a lot of people want to get into martial arts If you get into Muay Thai or boxing or kickboxing to get really good at those sports you have to spar you're Going to get hit in the head. That's just a fact of getting good at those sports Jiu-jitsu you can get very good and not get hit in the head. I like that Yeah, cuz our brain health is important with our jobs super crucial who wins in a jiu-jitsu match you or Mark Zuckerberg Oh, I would destroy marks. Oh you would destroy him. Yeah, I've seen clips of him. He's not bad. He's like a High level white belt, you know, okay. I'm a decent level blue belt. Oh, it's like karate where there's a system. Yeah

Yeah, there's system. Yeah, I would definitely destroy a white boat Yeah, he might have gotten his blue but might be a little suspect blue belt But all that said shout out to him for training. I think that's absolutely amazing And you know, that's the thing about jiu-jitsu dude. He keeps on training. He could surpass me like that and what mass I like his new character arc man. Yeah, it's cool. He's blending in with everyone. He's like a Trump guy now Yeah, that was shocking when he defended Trump. Yeah, I couldn't believe that well I mean he has a big business right and you know I mean he probably pays a lot of taxes I think he might be worried about what might come in right when Elon backed Trump too that was crazy

Yeah, that one. I was like I knew that was coming. Oh, yeah, I'm gonna left this whole life Yeah, I mean for sure but like when he started leaving the Bay Area to move a lot of his operations to Texas Yeah You tried acupuncture. I have tried acupuncture. How was that? I think acupuncture has validity I think it's been used for thousands of years. I think it can totally work I Think the best modality to go after for people there's two if you want to fix your injuries. There's functional range conditioning It's called FRC. It's being used by a lot of pro sports teams now. It's difficult to describe It's tough work, dude. It's like looking at okay

You have your internal and external range of motion in your shoulder how instead of just stretching there Do we actually be able to work that like? Strength at those end ranges where a lot of injury occurs stuff like that So I had a shoulder injury one time and I couldn't internally rotate my shoulder more than this damn So you got to think I'm paddling surfing. I'm doing jujitsu What's gonna happen when my body gets forced in this position other stuff's gonna compensate trap all the stuff So FRC helps me actually be able to improve that range of motion which I now have The other thing I think is deep tissue bodywork

I think that one two combo if you have some money and you want to fix your injuries that one two combos the best Is that a deep massage? Yeah, something different. Yeah, you need to find like a deep tissue practitioner that works with athletes Oh, so like no bullshit. It can be pretty painful, dude. I got one of those in Thailand and I wanted to cry Yeah, no, we can start real. Yeah, it was like walking on my back. Yep. Yeah. No, that's just kind of brutal. Yeah, but I felt amazing after yeah No, that's the thing. I walked out of there like a new man. Yeah All right, let's talk about eggs cuz I had embodiment celestial on yeah, and he has this theory that they cause cancer Which that's kind of extreme but like are you consuming eggs? I am consuming eggs. I'm consuming a lot of eggs So I find it difficult to believe that eggs cause cancer as we've been consuming them as Homo sapiens forever

Okay, so that is sort of difficult for me to believe also when you look at the nutrient profile of just an egg yolk You have various B vitamins you have choline which is protective against cancer, and it's protective for your brain health. Choline is a very good nutrient for your brain. There's also vitamin D in an egg yogurt, so the only foods that contains vitamin D, which we know is neuroprotective. So I can't really see how eggs would cause cancer. Yeah, what about the type of egg?

Does that matter? I try to get pasture-raised, but you get what you can afford. Cage-free is what I got back in college. They're really not that expensive. Eggs are one of the most affordable sources of good protein. Yeah, yeah, I get what you can afford. Cage-free is what I got back in college. They're really not that expensive. Eggs are one of the most affordable, like, sources of good protein. Yeah. Yeah, I'm with you on that. I eat eggs. Yeah. They're delicious, dude.

Yeah, I don't know if I agree with him on that one. But he was pretty adamant about it, dude. I got a lot of interesting takes. Yeah, he does have a lot of interesting takes. He only eats raw foods, I think. Raw vegetables. Yeah, so that's pretty crazy. There's a book by an anthropologist called Fire, and it talks about how cooking helped us

in many different ways. It actually makes protein more bioavailable. Look, a lot of the raw food guys say this. They say, oh, you're breaking down the proteins. That is what your digestive system is doing as well. So if you don't want to break down the proteins or break down the nutrients, then you're not gonna eat food.

That's what our stomach acid does. We have a very acidic stomach, which is good. It helps us not get parasites, not get infection, and helps us break down foods, plant fiber, meat. So a lot of people actually have low stomach acid, and that's why some people need to take digestive enzymes. I'm a huge fan of those, but to say that we just need to eat raw food, it's crazy.

Yeah, what's your take on parasite cleanse? Because I get so many of those videos, and I don't know if it's fear-mongering, but do you think we actually have these harmful parasites in us? Yeah, parasites are very interesting. So we had these functional medicine doctors on my show recently and they are running lab tests and a lot like a lot of gut tests. The GI map test is the gold standard in gut tests. You can look at your bacteria, your parasites, all different types of stuff. What they found now, they did give a caveat that they're working with people that are coming to them all oftentimes with digestive issues

60% of their lab tests on the GI map are gonna bring back some parasites Wow yeah, that's pretty hot It's insane, and I dealt with this before so about eight years ago I went to Costa Rica for a little while got sick in Costa Rica. You know just like tropical location You're like. I just got sick. No. I had a parasite well crypto spritium come back do the GI map test with my functional medicine doctor clearly see crypto spritium on the lab test We treated it with herbs take this herbal protocol that they do and then retest no crypto spritium. Damn. What does that person do? Yeah, so crypto spritium is just gonna live in your digestive tract. Yeah, these parasites are so I think this is the thing Like you're saying they do go viral because it is Like a little scary. I don't think we need to be overly worried about a lot of this stuff

I know there's a lot of viral stuff people going there's worms like living in you and stuff like that I'm sure that can happen to some people yeah I do think if anybody has the money in this eventually in 20 30 years will be a standard of health care Or that you do a GI map test is what it's called, but for right right now just nobody knows about it it's just sort of for the elite you know how much is it a couple thousand dollars to go over it with a good functional medicine practitioner if you listen to these guys on our podcast you don't want to do a GI map test and then throw random herbs at it some of these things can be powerful oregano oil wormwood stuff like that so you don't just want to kind of throw the

kitchen sink at it you want to work with somebody who's pretty dialed in damn I need to get one of those yeah sometimes I a brain fog and I wonder if it's just a parasite It's amazing to see what's going on in your gut and the fact that we can do that now and almost nobody knows about it That's concerning. Yeah, you may you also made a video on Accutane. Yeah, so I took that shit for seven months Yep, I still have liver damage. Yep. Isn't that crazy? It's insane ten years ago, and we look at with Accutane I mean, so here's my big beef with Accutane people are going in talking to dermatologists for not that long they're not getting any other vitamin levels tested not getting any other nutrient levels tested there the

dermatologist isn't having a conversation with them oftentimes about diet sleep nutrition at all hormones nothing right I'm sure there's some that do but let's be real and then that dermatologist sits down with that person and goes, let me prescribe you a life-altering drug that can have extremely bad side effects. Take this, that's going to get rid of your acne. It's the most frustrating thing ever. We know from looking at the history of Homo sapiens and now the research on the gut-skin access, we can fix so much acne would just diet gut health hormone optimization

Yep to throw accutane as the first line of defense Extremely concerning and it again it'll be looked back on as just horrible I hope so did they put you on it now they recommended it when I was like 18 I went to a dermatologist is what kicked off a lot of my interest in health that dermatologist looked at me and said What you eat is pretty much nothing to do with your skin. And I went, okay, all right, you know, and then two, three years later, I'm studying these tribes at UC Santa Cruz. I'm going, why do they all have perfect skin? What's going on? Because some of them are dirty, you know, you're talking Amazonian tribes, they have dirt on their face. They've never heard of skincare. What's going on? Why do they have good skin? And

then you go down this rabbit hole and you're like, oh wait Our skin is our buddy's largest organ modern-day dermatology A lot of them try to sort of separate it your skin's this thing. You need to wash it You need to do this Mmm Now your skin health comes from within if I go out tonight in Las Vegas and I drink 40 Drinks or something and smoke a bunch of cigarettes. You'll see it in my skin the next few days. Oh, yeah Just how it is. Yeah, do you go out in the sunlight a lot? I do. I get a good amount of sun.

I'm not one of these people that thinks sunscreen is a complete scam. However, there are two types of sunscreen. Mineral based and chemical based. The chemical based ones use avobenzone, oxybenzone, and these chemical UV filters is what they're called. Sunlight hits you with chemical based sunscreen. Your body absorbs those UV rays and it's dispersed as heat mineral-based sunscreen typically uses zinc oxide It creates a barrier and the Sun reflects off Now chemical-based sunscreens have been banned in Hawaii and Key West, Florida Alaska because they damage our marine life So this is something if you look up what happens when you mix avobenzone, oxybenzone

with chlorine. What are a lot of people doing when they spray these chemical based sunscreens on them? What's happening at that Vegas pool right there? People are lathering themselves with avobenzone, oxybenzone and they're getting in a chlorinated pool. Anybody right here can Google what happens when you mix those chemical based sunscreen filters with chlorine. It creates toxic byproducts okay it is insane to me that we just allow people to spray these things onto their body when the other option which is still sold at Target Walmart mineral-based sunscreens have been proven safe and effective there was a whole new thing on the Vegas pools

last year they tested all the pools in the clubs all of them were infected yeah some of them had fecal matter oh yeah, yeah That doesn't surprise me. Yeah, I just try to get in the ocean. Yeah ocean is very healing. Yeah grounding Yeah, big on grounding, you know I try to get in the ocean to get barefoot in the morning get on grass and then the oceans amazing talk about electrolytes But like, you know I'm not even you could get in the ocean and eat good fruits and vegetables and you're probably gonna have good electrolyte balance Oh, yeah, any other health trends on social media that annoy you? get in the ocean and eat good fruits and vegetables and you're probably gonna have good electrolyte balance. Oh yeah. Any other health trends on social media that annoy you?

Veganism overall. Veganism and the switch to plant-based meats are one of the things I think is, yeah, it's one of the biggest scams done on the people. Do you know about like the Game Changers documentary and that twin one on Netflix? No. Okay, so the twin one on Netflix is particularly hilarious. So first of all, they get this group of twins and they go we're gonna give one of them a plant-based diet And we're gonna give the other one a normal diet, and we're gonna see who's healthier

Mmm now this research was funded by the Stanford plant-based diet initiative the professor They're leading the study a vegan where did that group get their funding from Beyond Meat? Literally Beyond Meat you have a plant-based diet initiative funded by a company who makes processed plant-based food. And then you look into some of the deeper funding on this and you will find that it's funded by a billionaire who lives in San Francisco, about the biggest house in San Francisco.

How does he make his money? He does two things. He funds companies like Beyond Beef and Possible Foods that make those processed plant-based foods and he also funds movies like Game Changers and this twin Netflix study that say, hey, you need to switch from meat to the products that he funds. It's the biggest scam on the American people because people are waking up and going, I shouldn't eat processed food. The sugary cereal? No. I'm going to eat less of that.

So what are they doing now? They go, shit shit There's a lot of money in selling people processed food Let's say that this processed food this plant-based shit is better It's insane and what's in there soy protein is the main thing if you are eating that thinking that you are doing something better for The environment you are eating a food that's heavily processed from a mono crop Farm and guess what that farm also kills a lot of animals rabbits mice foxes displacing bird species So there's no cruelty free food, so I'm gonna eat my grass-fed beef that kills one cow fills up my freezer for over a year I'm gonna go with that 100% they got me on the Beyond Meat marketing Yeah, that was a good campaign when they but not the taste probably. Oh, no. I tried it once and gave up No, it wasn't even the health reason just tastes like shit

Your body knows what it craves, you know, you like steak. I love steak dude. Yeah, I Get a force of nature. Yep. Love that brand. Yeah grass-fed grass finished if possible. Absolutely Yeah, I mean the body knows that it craves, you know And there's tons of nutrients in red meat that our body relies on to you know Just regenerate and be strong and almost everybody that eats red meat and works out and lives an active lifestyle Knows that feeling after basketball after weights whatever you do you want that steak and that's for a good reason How many supplements you taking a day? I just had Brian Johnson on yesterday. It takes 150. Yeah, that's a lot I think what Brian Johnson is doing is interesting. I think he's providing a lot of value

I like when people will take shit to the extremes right I'm I'm not a hater on him I don't agree necessarily with everything he's doing the amount of supplements. I'd taken a day is probably around 10 to 12. It's not a lot. No. I take some magnesium I don't take vitamin D in the summer, but that's something I take I like to take ashwagandha in the evening Don't take ashwagandha in the morning. That's so many people start taking ashwagandha in the morning. It's a problem. It lowers cortisol. So that's why you see people go ashwagandha is marketed as like a testosterone booster. Ashwagandha is going to bring down cortisol. There's plenty of studies on this. You don't want low cortisol in the morning. People shouldn't

be afraid of cortisol. It's a stress hormone, but that's not a bad thing. It's sort of good. We have a natural cortisol rhythm. It goes up in the morning and should drop down throughout the day. For a lot of people we're busy 5-6 p.m. We still haven't really gotten into that rest and digest like the Pops Marshall gone to then and it brings me into that rest and digest state. That's good to know. Yeah a lot of people wake up and pop those in. And magnesium, do you take that in the morning or night? Magnesium, it doesn't really matter about timing people say magnesium helps their sleep But it's probably just because magnesium helps your brain health overall magnesium isn't gonna cause a big lowering of cortisol It can help with the Krebs cycle. So I'm a fan of taking it midday. Sometimes. I'll just take it when I can

Hmm, are you intense inside your house with the lighting and the air filters and all that pretty intense? Yeah Yeah, yeah My fiance is in Vegas with me right here. And we always just joke. It's like nighttime, we start to make it dark in the house. We have the amber lights. We have a circadian rhythm, dude. Light affects our melatonin secretion. So people, I can't sleep.

Bro, you are staring into the sun, basically. What do you think? You're giving your body every signal that it's daytime and to fire up all these neurotransmitters that keep us protected during the day. So yeah, make your room dark at night, your house dark at night. Some of those red lights can definitely simulate fire. What I tell people, man, we can't outrun our evolution.

You can't outrun your biology. Whether you like it or not, whatever you believe in, for hundreds of thousands of years as Homo sapiens we evolved a certain way we did certain things we were by the fire in the evening there was no artificial light okay there were certain foods that we ate there was community and connection that we had you can't outrun that shit and we have so many people today trying to outrun various aspects of that and it always comes back and bites them in ass Absolutely, you are not a fan of vaping also. No No, I mean are you a fan of vaping? I'm not yeah

I mean, I think vaping is one of the biggest epidemics with these young kids We just had some video game streamers out and we're trying to get them healthy and one of them brought like two three vapes of them It's horrible. I mean obviously there's an increase in lung cancer. And now we just have big tobacco basically repackaging this idea that just nicotine is completely healthy for you. It's a little brain boost. It's not like tobacco. In 10 years, we're gonna know that nicotine use in large amounts, totally bad for your colon health.

There's already cell culture studies showing that it can increase oral cancer. Damn. So we're gonna see an epidemic of that. We already see an epidemic of increased colon cancer in the youth and I think there's a multitude of factors for that But I do think the heavy use of even zins which people think are the healthiest things ever they're everywhere everywhere Then you know sure if you're somebody that does it occasionally there are some brain benefits

But do there's brain benefits from getting in a cold shower There's brain benefits from doing 10 push-ups 10 sit-ups. There's benefits from doing breathing. So probably go to those instead of nicotine to my opinion damn It's good to know what about xylitol of you looking at that one. Yeah. Yeah, I'm actually a fan of xylitol Oh really? Yeah So I don't really have too much xylitol around the house because even if your dogs get a little bit they can die right but like xylitol mints and stuff like that can actually benefit your teeth health and Have been shown to actually be beneficial for your gut microbiome. So is stevia, so is monk fruit in small amounts. So that's-

Stevia? Yes, stevia. I thought that was the fake sugar. Stevia is not fake sugar. So stevia is a small green plant that grows in tropical regions and the leaves are sweet. So now there is some debate around some companies buying like a bunch of those plants basically and like heavily processing them into like a really, really sweet liquid Which can be used in some products, but if you use stevia leaf extract. I'm a fan of that

There's been traditional tribes of chewed stevia leaf extract forever, so it's very interesting got it What about like cane sugar and coconut sugar like do avoid those or I do avoid them? I'm not somebody who fears a few grams of cane sugar You know if there's a dark chocolate bar or something with a little bit of Cane sugar I'm not very like afraid of that I don't think it's doing some magic thing that's gonna kill you the over consumption of cane sugar is a huge issue Mmm, huge issue so you have products like liquid IV like we talked about where three of those packets You're gonna have 33 grams of cane sugar for most people we have almost 50% obesity

Do we really think it's a good idea to be chugging cane sugar when you're going to the gym I mean come on there's places in Vegas that are just cane sugar drinks. Yeah. Yeah, crazy. Yeah, it's like 80 grams in there Yeah, most Americans consume far too much processed sugar So if you're really dialed in and you you know you just played basketball and you enjoy a drink with a little bit of cane sugar I think that's fine, but overall I am trying to avoid processed sugar I feel that Brandon where people buy your products and learn more about you know, absolutely Santa Cruz paleo on Amazon You can just look up Santa Cruz and this holes were on YouTube on tik tok or on Instagram We're doing a really fun show right now. We're getting people out to spend a few days with me. We're calling it locked in

They're living the life. They're going to jiu-jitsu. They're running hill sprints. They're lifting weights. They're surfing and it's hilarious to watch Thank you so much from guys always