Digital Social Hour - The Truth About Making $1M/Month on Social Media | Marquis Trill DSH #945

Episode Date: December 3, 2024

The Truth About Making $1M/Month on Social Media 🤑💰 Tune in now for an eye-opening conversation with Marquis Trill on the Digital Social Hour! 🎙️ Ever wondered how some influencers are rak...ing in millions? 🤔 Marquis spills the tea on the realities of big money in the social media game. From ethical concerns to smart strategies, this episode is packed with valuable insights you can't miss! 💡 Join Sean Kelly as he dives deep into: • The truth behind those jaw-dropping income claims 💸 • Ethical ways to monetize your following 🤝 • How to avoid common pitfalls and stay off the feds' radar 🕵️‍♂️ • Smart tips for long-term success in the ever-changing social landscape 📈 Whether you're an aspiring influencer or just curious about the behind-the-scenes of social media empires, this episode is a must-watch! 🔥 Hit that play button now and subscribe for more insider secrets on making it big in the digital world. 🚀 Don't forget to leave a comment and join the conversation! 💬 #DigitalSocialHour #SocialMediaMoney #InfluencerIncome #OnlineSuccess #MarquisTrill #bitcoin #cryptonews #howtomakemoneyonline #socialmediamarketing #howtomanagecontent CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 00:29 - Why Marquis Went Off the Grid 04:56 - BetterHelp 05:55 - Podcast Etiquette 07:06 - Marquis’s Social Media Impact 09:03 - Instagram's Close Friends Feature 10:35 - Trending Platforms 12:35 - AI and Direct Messaging 13:44 - Understanding Licensing Companies 17:30 - Jason Derulo Discussion 19:10 - Moving to Las Vegas 20:00 - Sports Betting Insights 21:40 - OnlyFans Overview 25:50 - Kyle's Journey to OnlyFans 29:15 - Kyle's Guinness World Record 32:10 - Advice for Current Times 37:18 - Dating with a Nomadic Lifestyle 39:49 - Age Gaps in Dating 42:00 - Thoughts on the Red Pill Movement 47:18 - Choosing the Ethical Path 49:49 - Improving Communities 51:06 - Discussing Inflation 54:41 - Keys to Success 57:06 - Marquis's College Money-Making Strategies 59:10 - Marquis’s Social Media Comeback 59:47 - Outro APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: jenna@digitalsocialhour.com GUEST: Marquis Trill https://www.instagram.com/marquistrill/ https://www.instagram.com/_blkblockchain/ SPONSORS: BetterHelp: https://www.betterhelp.com/DSH LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:31 Watch what you say on these podcasts, because the feds is watching, the FBI is watching. That's why you gotta watch what you say. Yes, sir. But he was responsible for a lot of big celebrities losing their accounts, paying $5K to get it back, and he was running the whole scheme with that. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:01:46 Crazy. I'm all ethical over here. That's the thing, right? One thing I learned about making money is if you make it unethically, you're gonna lose it. All right guys, first pod in 10 years. Marquis Trill, thanks for coming on man. What's up man, how you doing?
Starting point is 00:02:01 Good, brought him out of retirement. Brought me out of retirement for sure. You've been low key. Super low key with social media and everything that's going on. And just everybody exposing everything. Yeah. I was just kind of trying to stay out the way, you know?
Starting point is 00:02:13 What made you step back so long ago? Cause I feel like you were really big 10 years ago, posting every day, right? Yeah, every day I was loving social media. But just when Facebook meta in general just started suppressing Yeah, the content where you weren't being seen by everyone in the whole entire world and they kind of like put everybody in the box That's when I was like, no, I can't I feel I can't produce this every single day
Starting point is 00:02:34 Yeah, cuz now you only hit like 5% of your followers not even not even maybe one maybe two Dude, my story is you're not like the non followers. I Get more views from non followers than followers on my reels exactly not crazy. It's it's insane That's why I just stopped in general and then the whole crypto thing happened and I kind of like went into a rabbit hole You caught that wave. I definitely caught that way. So when did you get in crypto? 2017 oh that was the second wave right? Yes, and right after Super, I put a certain amount of money in Bitcoin because of my friend. Yeah, I didn't want to put it in a bank. And a couple of months later, he was like, yo, go check your account.
Starting point is 00:03:17 I was like, all right, I checked it. I didn't know how to get it out. Yeah, it was a crazy part. And the only thing he told me was do your own research. Did my own research. I tried to transfer the Bitcoin to these wallets. And then from the wallets, I put them on the exchange. And that's when I found out about Binance.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Once I found out about Binance, it was pretty much a wrap after that. You started trading altcoins. Altcoins. I didn't know about altcoins. I was like, altcoins, two cents, three cents? Oh, nah. That's how you make 2550X. It was over after that. So I've just been about all coins. I was like, all coins, two cents, three cents? Oh, nah. That's how you make 25.50x.
Starting point is 00:03:46 It was over after that. So I've just been chilling low key. I haven't really been doing anything except for just helping people out, the people knowing what I do behind the scenes. I feel that. What's been like that on you mentally, just having all this money,
Starting point is 00:03:58 not knowing kind of where to go from there? Personally, it's just like being one with self, trying not to fall out of the loop. You see a lot of people purchasing things, buying things, purchasing, buy things, things get notified, you get red flagged, you have more enemies, people are watching you more, I just try to stay, I learn from people's mistakes.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Watching social media, you see how people, things happen to people a lot. So I just try not to, you know, I learned from people's mistakes watching social media. You see how people things happen to people Oh, yeah, so I'll just try not to let that happen to me 100% You flex a little too hard you flex too hard the government's gonna get you or somebody's gonna get you Oh, yeah, you you put more eyeballs on your profile whether that's girls whether that's guys hating on you whether that's people that grew up With you. Yep I'll never flex again. I made that mistake in LA,
Starting point is 00:04:46 flexed a 100K cash on my Instagram story next day. Whole gangs at my apartment. Yeah. Yeah. You learned though. You learned, yeah. I'm never doing that again. It was so dumb too.
Starting point is 00:04:56 I was thinking like when I came up to the pod, I was like, I'm not gonna wear chains, I'm not gonna wear chains, I'm not gonna wear earrings. For the culture, for just like not for the culture. I was just like, nah, I'm not gonna. Yeah, I don't even wear any of my watches on the pod or anything like, because you never know. You never know, because we're here now.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Yeah. There's no telling with IPs and. Anytime you're in a major city, you got to kind of, especially LA or Miami. Just be aware, these places are not, they're not the place to play around. Absolutely, that's why you're on the Nomad lifestyle right now.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Nomad lifestyle, traveling traveling living my best life Traveling to different countries meet new people stand in places for months at a time Mmm, you know giving back to the locals nice. That's pretty much what I'm doing right now other than you know social media tech stuff Yeah, you're going going to take talk next week. You said yeah going to take talk next week They've deleted a couple of my clients accounts accounts. Damn. So it's like. What was the reason? What's the deal? There's no reason, it's just targeting.
Starting point is 00:05:50 My clients are pretty popular, so just them being targeted, getting it deleted over and over, us having to pay for it over and over. So it's like pretty much we need a rep from my agency, so just hey, who's the rep, who's gonna help, and we need to get this fixed. That's the whole business model, people deleting accounts, and then you have help, and we need to get this fixed. That's the whole business model,
Starting point is 00:06:05 people deleting accounts, and then you have to pay the same guy to get it back. The same guy. Did you see someone got arrested by the FBI doing that in Vegas a month ago? No, no, tell me about it. Ah, what's his name, dude? You don't have to tell me the name, just tell me.
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Starting point is 00:08:31 FBI's watching. That's why you got to watch what you say. Yes, sir. But he was responsible for a lot of big celebrities losing their accounts, paying 5k to get it back. And he was running a whole, you know, scheme with that. That's crazy. Crazy.
Starting point is 00:08:44 I'm all ethical over here. That's the thing, right? One thing I learned about making money is if you make it unethically, you're gonna lose it. You know what I mean? Facts. I don't know any scammers at long-term. There's no such thing as a long-term.
Starting point is 00:08:56 That's what I'm trying to tell people. It's like people are like, oh, you're a scammer. You don't post anything, you don't do anything. You don't show us what you're doing or how you make your money. We see you living, We see you look good. You've been on social media for a long time, but what do you actually do?
Starting point is 00:09:08 It's like, that's how you're supposed to live it. You know what I mean? Unless you're an NBA player, but you don't know NBA players' personal lives unless they showcase it. I think a lot of people don't understand that the richest people in the world are not on Forbes. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:09:22 They don't even have social media. They have no social media. You don't know what their personal kinks or lifestyle or what they're doing on a day-to-day basis. So it's just from understanding life and people, I think it's just best to just kinda like stay under the radar. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:37 You know? Yeah, you're low key, but you got some notable followers. Right. You got the top celebrities in the world and billionaires following you. Right, I've been doing this for a long time. Like what everybody's doing right now, the whole, I wouldn't say podcasting,
Starting point is 00:09:50 but just in general, just being on social media, posting, giving educational knowledge and saying follow me for more. And these are the best 10 websites, AI. Like I did that long time ago. Right. You know what I mean? And I'm still doing it, but just on a lower profile, when I meet people person to person,
Starting point is 00:10:08 I say, hey, I can help you with this. I try not to put it on social media too much because everyone's doing it. So it's like, if I started now, I would kind of look like the kind of tacky when I'm really the original person doing it. Even when social media, back when Meta was giving me certain authorizations
Starting point is 00:10:24 for my account, because my account was so big, they were allowing me, they did all the test fronts on my account. So the whole comment, top comment, like I was the first person to do it. Oh yeah? A feature. Wow.
Starting point is 00:10:35 And I actually used it on all the celebrities in Shea Room and all that stuff, so I was getting followers doing that. So I would do that first. I would say something serious at first, and then I found out, oh, this got me more engaged when I said something funny, or I said something relatable,
Starting point is 00:10:49 or I said something encouraging people. And then I started getting more followers and followers. But then you have like the hater side of the thing where people would be like, oh, he's just coming in just to be comedy, or he's just saying it, just to be saying it. Don't follow him. And then some people would block me.
Starting point is 00:11:05 So I got a lot of people that have blocked me from doing that. But I was also like one of them, if not the first person to do it. I saw a lot of people know me from just comment. Yeah, that was a big update when the verified comments showed up first. That was a big deal.
Starting point is 00:11:16 It was crazy. You could gain so many followers. Now everyone's doing it. Everyone's doing it. When everybody was hating on me because I was the first person to get the feature. Yeah. Then everybody got it now everybody does it So I don't even do it. No, it's done. No commenters is done
Starting point is 00:11:30 Yeah, you see this latest one with the close friend story Like I don't know where they're going I'm too scared to use it on my account, but people are getting people are getting 20 extra views though Yeah, it's not a story watcher. Just watch all the stories. Yeah I remember that one too. Yeah, it would automatically view stories. Yeah, that still works Yeah, damn stories a day. I thought they would update that one by now Really? Oh about a hundred thousand hundred fifty thousand. Damn. That's lot. And what percentage of them come to your page, you think? I probably get a couple thousand followers.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Oh wow. That's pretty good growth hack. Mm-hmm. This close friends one is nuts, dude. Think so? Dude, if you have 10 million followers, which you do, right, you could add all of them to your close friends. Your story views go up 30x overnight.
Starting point is 00:12:20 But you gotta do close friends individually. No, there's an API that adds all your followers We'll talk about it. Yeah, it's pretty nice. A lot of the music labels are using that right now on their artists It's not gonna get them more sales, but yes, it's a good thing get some more views of stories I don't even watch feed post anymore No, no, I love my trending posts. Really? Yeah, I love I love my explore page I'll watch reels just to study what's going viral but I'm talking about the feed like... Like your feed. My feed. People you follow. Yeah. No, I love my explore page. My explore page is curated to me like perfectly. I only do explore page. Yeah, for sure. And stories sometimes. I love stories. Yeah, but it's
Starting point is 00:12:59 cool seeing what's going viral and seeing where the trends are going. Yeah, I mean, I think social media platforms are pushing the trends I don't think people are pushing trends I think people are watching what's trending and the media companies these platforms are pushing what's trending really people copy Other people that's trending you know I could see that you think the people are going viral But it's really the platform pushing those people well YouTube definitely does that for certain creators For sure you think other platforms do that though yeah, yeah for sure Wow trying to think on Instagram who they're pushing but I
Starting point is 00:13:38 Don't know I feel like you choose the word I'm pretty sure you've seen a lot of girls going viral they have 20,000 followers But they'll have a picture to have 30,000 likes. Oh, like the OF girls. The OF girls. And there's some that are not OF, you know, just as long as you're aesthetically pleasing and guys are liking your account within the first 30, 30 minutes, you know, 15 minutes. Yeah. And people are sending it. That's what they're basically focused on on those platforms. So how many sins you're getting and how fast people are liking your content on your platform.
Starting point is 00:14:06 Then that basically triggers the algorithm. The algorithm. And it gets it popping. That makes sense. But nowadays, followers, they understand what's going on. They know most of this is marketing. They're not even following the stuff that they like anymore. They're just, oh, thanks for giving me that content swipe.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Hope I see you again, swipe. They're not even following what they like anymore. They're just, oh, thanks for giving me that content, swipe, hope I see you again, swipe. They're not even following what they like majority at a time. So it's a little harder these days. Yeah, it is for sure. I've noticed my views are down right now. I don't know if it's because of the election or whatever, but I've definitely been shadow banned at some point
Starting point is 00:14:40 because I had a few. Well, they got the system now where you fix, it's all green. Is yours yellow? What do you mean yellow green? In the background it'll tell you if you're account is shadowed in and what you need to fix, what you need to take down.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Oh, I have that on TikTok. I have three strikes on TikTok, but Instagram I'm not sure. Yeah, yeah, you can see it on the back end. Oh, you can? I'll show you after. But yeah, certain guests you have on and then your views are down 80% the next day. Oh yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:15:04 So that's, yeah so that's something different. So AI, face recognition, also the person, captions, the name of the person that you're using. Oh, even the text? Oh, yeah, for sure. Wow. That's why I tell people when people are messaging me on Instagram via DMs, I tell them don't use certain words.
Starting point is 00:15:19 If they say a certain word, I say delete that. No way. Because they can read DMs, comments, all that. Yeah, for sure. So when I have Tate on the show, because he's's coming on should I even say his name in the caption? You know I Wouldn't say his name, but you know but the facial recognition for him and then you some for Not him yeah, so well the facial recognition is gonna pick up on it. No matter what probably damn
Starting point is 00:15:40 Maybe that's why you wear sunglasses. Yeah suppressing., you know what I mean? Holy crap. That's what it is. I mean, they have to, because they've been getting pressed by a lot of people, sued by a lot of people, pushing certain agendas, people having free speech and not free speech. And we know, not we, but the platforms know what these people are talking about. And if that's something that they don't support, then
Starting point is 00:16:04 they kind of have to. Candice Owens lost monetization yesterday on YouTube. Did you see that? I didn't. Oh, you didn't? But I know what's happening right now. She got three strikes in one day on YouTube. That's what happens.
Starting point is 00:16:16 It's nuts. Licensing is crazy. I literally just signed three contracts with three licensing companies. I wouldn't say they extorted me, but it was sort of like extortion. So these, it's a little, I'm gonna tell y'all a little something. So this is how I found out.
Starting point is 00:16:31 So you learn by trial and error and you learn by getting scammed. The further you go in whatever system, platform you're in, I would say it's best to get scammed and it's best to get in trouble so you can learn the real rules of how this stuff works. So what I was doing was, I was doing the whole faceless YouTube thing, right?
Starting point is 00:16:50 Making thousands of dollars doing faceless YouTube channels, bunch, right? I would buy the YouTube from a person from India and they had like a million subscribers and then I would delete everything, switch everything, and then start putting AI content, licensing agreements. I would take other people's content and post it. So then when I was taking other people's content and posting
Starting point is 00:17:12 it, it was going viral, and I was getting paid. But then the licensing company that actually owned the content will come and say, hey, they'll throw a strike on my account. And then they'll say, hey, you need to pay us $500 so you can use this video, and we'll take the strike off. And I was like, oh, okay, cool, here's 500. And then I got another strike from another company
Starting point is 00:17:36 that owned another piece of content that was on my page, and then I was like, all right, cool. They was like, we want $700. I was like, all right, cool, because of course you don't want no strike concern. So then after I paid them, they hit me up in the email and said, hey, we like the content that you're posting. We have a whole library that you can use
Starting point is 00:17:54 if you pay this much a month. And I'm like, okay, so I could pay $5,000 a month. They have thousands, hundreds of thousands of videos that they go out and scout on social media platforms. Get the person, because this person that went viral in the middle of Kentucky has no following, but the video went viral.
Starting point is 00:18:13 They go and say, hey, we can do a licensing deal and we can get you on shows like Ridiculousness, or we can get you on shows Barstool wants to post you. So in exchange for clout, we wanna license this video for you. If anybody posts it, we'll give you a percentage of what we make the person pay. So I'm like, okay, that's how they're doing it.
Starting point is 00:18:33 So they're just reaching out to all the people that go viral on the messages. Hey, we'll do a partnership with you. And if they don't do the partnership, then I'll say, hey, we'll pay you $500 or $200 for the video for licensing. You still own it, but we wanna own it too, and we just wanna go out and get all the people.
Starting point is 00:18:47 And then that's where you see all the ridiculousness, America's Funny Home videos, platforms that you go to the bar and you see all the top funny videos and stuff like that, that's those companies. So anybody, even you could do it. You just pay them 5,000, 2,500, and they'll whitelist your YouTube, your Instagram, your Facebook, and you post the content.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Now what YouTube did was they changed the rules where you can't just post the content by itself. You have to be creative. So you have to do a review about it. You have to do a half and half screen. You have to do a reaction video to make it original. And once you make it original, then you can monetize. So what I'm currently doing with a lot of creators,
Starting point is 00:19:29 and I just, this is behind the scenes. Like when I find something out that's pretty easy to do, all you have to do is just put the pieces to the puzzle. I've reached out to influencers, say, hey, I have a licensing deal. I'll whitelist all your accounts. All you have to do is make reviews, reaction videos, these videos from the library
Starting point is 00:19:45 that we send you every single month. Like 30 a month, we'll split the revenue. Smart. Run it up, right? So when I found that out, it was pretty much game more. I just added another, you know. Revenue stream. Revenue stream to life.
Starting point is 00:20:00 I saw Jason Derulo do this. Was that, were you part of that? Listen, I can't, listen, shout out to Jason Derulo do this. Was that, were you part of that? Listen, I can't, listen, shout out to Jason Derulo. You remember me, but I can't say much. NDA, NDA, yeah. Nah, he was blowing up. That's my guy, man. We go way back.
Starting point is 00:20:17 You know, I won't talk too much about Jason, but you know, before his TikTok journey, we had a little situation going on. Oh yeah, now he's top town on TikTok, right? Right before the start. So shout out to Jason Derulo. It's cool to see old school artists adapt to social media like that.
Starting point is 00:20:31 You have to. A lot of them became irrelevant. Use your following. All these artists that were, if you're a one hit wonder, if you had two great albums, or you're still trying to, not trying to, you're still living off your career, make a living off your following and monetize it. They're doing it the wrong way now
Starting point is 00:20:47 by just taking sponsorships and just taking dollars to post a crypto or to post a product. Not genuinely though. You can monetize your own following just by using ads, just by posting other people's content, just by doing a licensing agreement on your Facebook. A popular artist might have two million followers on Facebook. You post content on their Facebook, they're getting about $60,000 to $100,000 a month.
Starting point is 00:21:13 Damn. Just on Facebook ads. Crazy. So it's a whole different revenue ballgame. Yeah, some of these history pages are huge too. Huge. And they're going to keep growing because you're posting the content, people are seeing the content, they're gonna keep growing cuz you're posting the content people are seeing the content They're following the page you're monetizing the page
Starting point is 00:21:28 The content is coming from somewhere else and it's just right every single system same thing. That's cool Yeah, I think Snoop Dogg is like a lot of 50 mil or some shirts Snoop Dogg Chris Brown I don't say too many more names, but you Chris just moved out here. He's been hooping with us. Yeah, everybody's moving out here. Dude, Vegas is the spot. Everybody's moving up top in the hills. Yeah. So Vegas is probably might be the new Hollywood in the future.
Starting point is 00:21:52 I mean, they're moving all the movies here now too. It's way cheaper. Yeah, way cheaper and way better. As far as living, the cost of living, it's way better. It's way more chill. You get everything that you need, whatever month it's in. There's some conference, there's some concerts. There's basketball more chill you get everything that you need whatever month is in there's some conference There's some concerts. Yes basketball. There's football UFC this weekend USC is headquarters is here
Starting point is 00:22:11 Yeah, it's it's crazy. So draft King shots of draft Kings racking is here, too They just sponsored the pod shot out to draft Yeah, these sports betting companies man, Jake up six billion dollars crazy from last year Jake balls killing it with better You got what's that ones that sponsors Gilbert Arena? So I think like fantasy underdog or something fantasy sports picks you have prize picks steak They're coming printing money man coming is that some space you're looking into right now. No, I'm not really into gambling Just for the simple fact. I know the statistics on winning and losing. Oh, yeah Is that a space you're looking into right now? Nah, I'm not really into gambling. Just for the simple fact I know the statistics on winning and losing.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Oh yeah. What percentage of people lose? Majority of them. I'd assume so, yeah. If you're a small bettor, you're a big loser. Just being honest with you. You put in, what's the thing that they do? Where you gotta bet on 12 different things.
Starting point is 00:23:04 Oh, the spread. No, no, no, not to spread. Oh, parlay, parlay. Parlay. Yeah. You know how many people do parlay? A lot. There's groups on Facebook and Instagram and Telegram.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Parlay, put in $5, win $2,500. Parlay P, baby. You're going to win six of those, and you only need to lose one to lose all your money. Yeah. So that's what majority, I think, a person, that's what majority of money is being made on. And then these people that are advertising on Instagram
Starting point is 00:23:26 Saying they can help you win. Yeah, but I think it's literally a 50-50 chance. Yeah I see those ads on shader and worlds are all the time the sports betters sports betters. Yeah, I said they're making money They have to be making money. They have the house. They have the cars. They have everything But the the risk to win is like 50-50 Yeah But the risk to win is like 50-50. Like if we can go to the casino right now and play any game, you're gonna win, but you're gonna lose just as much if you keep playing.
Starting point is 00:23:51 Yeah, the longer they're the worse. Yeah, so if you're making 2,500 and you're making 3,000 or $10,000, then what you gonna do? You're gonna bet 5,000 next time or 3,000. You lose that, are you done betting? All right, you better know, you lose again, you 6 the hole you only profiting you probably spent that on rent or yep I don't sports but zero I don't gamble or sports, but it's not worth it
Starting point is 00:24:12 You think those world star shoutouts to work? I used to buy those like five years ago girls Not for guys and not for artists anymore shout out to world star shout out to Q but Yeah, that's that game is pretty much over. It's all about Twitter meme pages now. I can't go on Twitter without seeing an ass within a minute, bro. They're writing the comments, boom. Every comment.
Starting point is 00:24:34 30 seconds, right there. They must have like a bot, because they're- Definitely have a bot or a V-Ace. Yeah, they're their ace up. First comment, it's like, damn. I wonder if that's actually converting. You think it is on Twitter? It's definitely converted. Really? Yeah. You know, I have agency, so it's definitely converted. Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:49 How's that going? Cause the space got saturated, right? Oh, F space or did it not slow down to you? Like, I heard it got pretty saturated with OF managers and everything. Girls hopping on. I don't, I wouldn't say saturated, I would say more people are seeing the opportunity to make money. So it's still a good opportunity? Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:25:12 From the management side and from the girls' perspective, even from the fans' perspective, I just think everyone is growing in all their own ethical ways, you know what I mean? Like the girls are growing, because they're getting seen, now they're into marketing, which they weren't into before. They're growing their pages, they're following, they're getting brand deals now.
Starting point is 00:25:30 They own their OnlyFans, the OnlyFans is growing. The management is helping them do every single thing from the reddits to the Twitters to the dating apps, X, Y, Z. And the fan gets the benefit from all of that. They're getting the content, they're getting to see the girls that they want to see, and they see the marketing, which're getting to see the girls that they wanna see. And they see the marketing,
Starting point is 00:25:46 which is going to what they actually like. There's a lot of people that create small pages so they can see the things that they actually wouldn't follow or like to view on their personal pages. But on the backend. I just had one of the top of girls on last week. A million a month, dude.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Yeah. Oh, crazy. Crazy. Can you believe that? I can believe it. A million a month. I could believe, oh crazy. Crazy. Can you believe that? I can believe it. A million a month. I can believe it. It's nuts. Going hard.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Socials, social media. Yeah. But there are a lot of girls that don't have social medias that are crushing it. Really? There are a lot of girls that don't show their face that are crushing it. Faceless, O.F.
Starting point is 00:26:20 Faceless, O.F. Because it's the whole perception and the ideology of like, who is this person? I can't see this person, but she's doing this. She looks like this. And a lot of guys that actually like that. There's something for everyone on the platform, whether it's social media, whether it's OnlyFans,
Starting point is 00:26:39 there's something for someone and they're gonna, if you market yourself right, you're gonna get that following. And if it's 100,000 people only, if that 100,000 people know you, you have that 100,000 people audience and whatever you're selling, that's your target market.
Starting point is 00:26:54 So a lot of people like get a little bit weird when they try to like touch small audiences. A lot of people try to go for like the big thing when you can literally kill the small thing and make way more money than you would trying to be big because you're competing with way more creators and people in a bigger audience in a bigger niche. But the bigger niches pay little crumbs. Entertainment CPM is like I think like a dollar and 92 and you're only going to get a dollar 25 on revenue. So it's like, but you do finance, you do education, you're gonna get 10 to $35.
Starting point is 00:27:29 You do cars, you're gonna get $15 per CPM. So it's like, why not do that? But it's not what people are into. Right. If you're into money, do things that make money. Because also people wanna be happy, fake happy. Yep, yeah, the girl doing the middle of the want to be happy, fake happy. Yep. Yeah, the girl doing the middle of the month
Starting point is 00:27:46 was doing cars, luxury cars. That makes sense now. I didn't know it was 15, wow. Yes, bro, it's 15. So not only are you making money on YouTube, not only are people reaching out to you, you fly you out to Dubai and all these car meets, and you get to be with these exclusive,
Starting point is 00:28:01 exotic cars and do the reviews, just like the real estate agents are doing with these $15 exotic cars and do the reviews just like the real estate agents are doing with these $15 million homes all across the country. Then you can monetize that from the viewership of the high quality profile clients that follow you to OnlyFans that want your content. That's insane marketing. Absolutely. Have you been in the management game for a while?
Starting point is 00:28:22 Two years now. Oh, it's kind of new. Yeah, so actually, long story short, did a deal with OnlyFans like a long time ago. They actually reached out to me in 2017. I knew what the platform was, but I was just like, yo, subscriptions is really hard right now for someone to pay me for my content. I'm literally putting content on YouTube right now. Like I'm going to get people to pay me when I'm getting paid from ads and it's a free video. I know how fans think, so I just wasn't really into it,
Starting point is 00:28:48 but I've always kept in contact. So back in 2019, seeing what happened, I was like, yo, it's getting bigger and bigger. So I just got on, they gave me like a God account. So my God account, I was allowed to bring people onto the platform and then I could charge a certain amount that I was bringing people onto the platform. So if I wanted to do a 20% split or a 30% split,
Starting point is 00:29:09 just by bringing them on, I could do that. That's what they gave me, the God account. Then the platform got sold, and then I lost my contact, but then I got into it earlier on with these same people, and then we created an official agreement. Nice. So the management is going good.
Starting point is 00:29:28 There's always guys, there's always girls, there's always people creating content. And it's pretty easy. The pay rates and what people are doing consistently. I just think that a lot of people hate it, but there's a lot of people like it. I mean, we literally did six billion plus this year past recently.
Starting point is 00:29:47 Damn. So, somebody likes it, you know? Yeah. I was kind of like shaky about it at first, cause you know, I'm more like ethical, nice guy, clean cut, graduated from college, you know, adult entertainment is blah, blah, blah, blah. But it's like, I'm also a businessman
Starting point is 00:30:04 at the end of the day. I like money, I like marketing. I've always been into the girls, I've always been into fashion, I've always been into culture and music and stuff like that. That's always been my thing growing up, because I am black, that's our culture. So I just think it made sense for me to get into that.
Starting point is 00:30:22 I'm more on the marketing side. So I am an adult. I do adult things. I party, I club. I don't drink or anything. I don't smoke. But I am an adult. And when you're an adult, you do adult things. We're not kids anymore.
Starting point is 00:30:36 So let's just do things ethical, do things right. Don't try to take advantage of people and you're going to live a good life. I love it. You're still clubbing though? Little bit. You know, people in our world, they like to go out to have a good time and come meet me here, come to dinner, then it's a club.
Starting point is 00:30:53 It's not like, hey, come to my house anymore and let's chill and hang. Maybe a vacation. Hey, we're going to Cabo, we're going to Tulum, meet us out there, but it's still clubbing girls with that. So, yeah. I've had some good networking in clubs, I'm not gonna lie, but it's still clubbing girls with that. So, yeah. I've had some good networking in clubs, I'm not gonna lie. But it's not really my scene, to be honest. Yeah, but if people invite you,
Starting point is 00:31:11 if that's the only place you can meet them, hey, what's up, we're there. Can barely hear you, but. And it's a little bit quicker in a club, too. I think it's a little bit more personal when you're meeting people at a restaurant, it's a little bit timid, kinda unsure. When people invite you out, when you're going to the restaurant and you're going to the club, I think, it's a little bit timid, kind of unsure. When people invite you out,
Starting point is 00:31:26 when you go into the restaurant and go into the club, I think the deals go a little bit faster. Because it's like, they just want to see your face, they want to see if you're real, they want to hear a few things, but they already pretty much know about you. And then the deal is pretty much close. It's, hey, text me tomorrow, I'll send that over,
Starting point is 00:31:37 and we'll get started. In the restaurant, they actually know a bunch of questions, it's more like... It's like an interrogation sometimes. Exactly. Yeah, so, I kind of like the club. Yeah, I feel that. Do you have a Guinness World Record?
Starting point is 00:31:48 Where'd you read that at? I might have done some research. What the... Where'd you read that? Where'd you get that? I watched some of your old pods. Oh my gosh. What happened there?
Starting point is 00:32:00 So unofficial Guinness World Record, I have the most following on any social media platform. So Justin Bieber, I think Justin Bieber holds the record for, or Selena Gomez holds the record for the most, I don't know who holds it these days, but somebody holds it for the most followers. I hold it for the most following. So I followed 3.9 million people originally
Starting point is 00:32:23 when we started back in the day when we were doing the Follow for Follow. Oh,. Oh I missed those days. So everybody hated on that too. All these unethical you guys think is unethical but this is how you grow audience when you don't know what the hell is going on. That's how it started. That's how it originally started. Growth hacking, that's what that is. Some people don't like it, some people call it unethical, but I think whatever the platform allows you to do, do it before it gets taken away. So now no one can ever beat that record because you cannot follow more than 7,500 people on Instagram and you
Starting point is 00:32:54 can't follow more than half of your audience on any other social media platform. So if you have a million, you could only follow 500,000 on Twitter. You can never reach my status. Not in the, you know, I'm not saying it like that. You guys, I know how you guys are up here. But I'm just saying, you can just, it can never be done. You know what I mean? So I do hold the record for that.
Starting point is 00:33:12 That's impressive. Yeah, it's pretty crazy. All by myself. Damn, you manually? Manually. I was in college, I did that manually. I changed my, I'm gonna tell you how I did it. This is how you know I did it manually.
Starting point is 00:33:22 I changed my Apple settings on my computer. I put the speed up. I used the keypad. I used a platform called Manage Flitter. Manage Flitter, I put my arrow right on Manage Flitter for each profile that said follow. I target every single person. I target like rappers, rappers followings.
Starting point is 00:33:40 I target like athletes following. I did this all day. Just double tap, double tap. Just double tap. I was following thousands like athletes following me. I did this all day. Just double tap, double tap. Just double tap. I was following thousands and thousands of people an hour, just every single day for a long time, literally. Just this time I'm able to do this. And this is one, two, three, four, five, six.
Starting point is 00:33:56 That's a lot of people I'm following. Plus I already had a large following, so I was able to do that. And then I exceeded my following of my followers. And that's how you made your first money, right? By building that follower base. That's how I made my money, that's how I made my followers And that's how you made your first money, right? By building that followers. That's how I made my money, that's how I made my followers,
Starting point is 00:34:07 that's how I became trusted in the game. And I was a real genuine person too. Like I was like, I'll follow you back. I will follow people with one following cause you never know. A lot of people that I followed, that I support, if you go and look at my followers, they're big people now.
Starting point is 00:34:20 And they remember me when I was supporting them and saying, oh, you know, thanks for the follow on, hey, shout out to you. I see that you like in a certain person. And when these people were small, and now these people are huge, and we still have a mutual understanding for each other on these platforms. So it's like, it's good to see people go from small to big
Starting point is 00:34:36 when you were supporting them, when they was just getting their journey started on social media platforms. Yeah. What's your advice now to people? Cause I think 90% of people live in paycheck to paycheck right now. Yeah. So when- I think me people because I think 90% of people live in paycheck to paycheck right now Yeah, so and I think me personally I think a lot of people are going to be influencers and micro influencers
Starting point is 00:34:50 That's just my take on it. Just for the simple fact that jobs are going to be scarce Mm-hmm with AI with AI Technology, I think a lot of people are staying at home. I think I know we're not a communist country, but yes It's becoming that. Because people can't afford things. The average medium household is like 54,000 a year. So it's like, if there's 54,000 a year, that's medium, which means middle,
Starting point is 00:35:17 which means between super rich and super poor. So if medium is 54, what's half a medium? What is it, 22,000 a year? 27, right? So there's somebody making 22,000 or $27,000 a year. They can never, I wouldn't say never, but they can never really reach the heights of getting to middle class or even upper class.
Starting point is 00:35:40 They will never reach that because they're doing it day to day. They're taking care of their kids, they're going to work, and they're going to sleep every day. They're taking care of their kids. They're going to work and They're going to sleep Every day. Mm-hmm. They don't know what it's like So that's why a lot of people are making money on social media from people like that that want to get out of that That want to strive to be great that want to make money on Amazon and want to make money on social media Don't know how reaching out to people that look like they know how or are really doing it They sell them a course so they do like a zoom call with them They give them the information, but it's really it really has to be in you to people that look like they know how or are really doing it. They sell them a course or they do like a Zoom call with them.
Starting point is 00:36:05 They give them the information, but it really has to be in you to do that. But you really have to understand what's going on on Amazon platform for you to sell something on Amazon to make $100,000 a month, you know? But ads are a great way to do that. And I just think like the top three platforms right now for ads is Snapchat, TikTok, and Google.
Starting point is 00:36:25 Wow. I like Facebook too. I know a lot of businesses use Facebook, but just if you're a person starting off, if you have no money, Snapchat, TikTok, and Google. Google's gonna give you $500 to match your $500 on the ad credit, no matter what. You have a brand new account on Google,
Starting point is 00:36:42 they're gonna give you $500 to match your $500, it's $1,000. If I have a high ticket price on Google, they're gonna give you $500 and match your $500 to $1,000. If I have a high ticket price and I'm selling something, whether it's a product or whether it's a course or whatever it is, you gotta understand what the metrics is for impressions. If it's a dollar per thousand people, I spend $100, my ad gets seen to 100,000 targeted people.
Starting point is 00:37:02 If you're selling something for $2, okay, and you make a sale, you gotta divide that and do the math on how much you're selling something for $2, okay, and you make a sale, you got to divide that and do the math on how much you're going to make per person that buys that product based on your ad revenue sales, which is pretty easy to figure out. So it's like you got that for Google. Snapchat has a credit line, which most people don't know about. They're also going to match your ad space. So if you spend 200, 300, $500, they're gonna give you an extra $500 on the platform. Plus they're gonna give you a credit line.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Now you have to have a business to get the credit line, but the credit line basically give you anywhere from 10,000 to $20,000 to use on their platform for free first, and then they're gonna bill you a week or two weeks, or you could do it monthly, they're gonna bill you. So I've told people to do that all the time and TikTok, it's limited right now, so limited offer, you guys need to go out
Starting point is 00:37:48 and check it out. They doing a one to two dollar split on ads. So if you spend a thousand, they're gonna give you $2,000. Damn, holy crap. Right now, so you spend 1,500, you're gonna have an extra 1,500, $2,000, $3,000 to spend on the platform on TikTok.
Starting point is 00:38:04 And that's happening right now. I believe it's like TikTok for me or something like that. Or for TikTok. Is that for TikTok shop? Cause they're promoting that. TikTok shop is killing it. That's where the micro influencers are coming in. They're not even using big influencers.
Starting point is 00:38:18 They're using influencers with a hundred followers to go live all day to sell products on their platform. And it's working. It's literally working. It's a lot of agencies that's working with TikTok right now with small influencers. So if you think that you need a big influencers, you think you need a big following. No, connect with an agency because a lot of people are creating brands and they need bodies. Yeah. You need bodies and they need real reviews, not fake reviews,
Starting point is 00:38:41 not just marketing and advertising. They need real, you know, advertise. Followers don't matter like they used to. Bruh, did you hear what Instagram just said? No. Instagram said, hey, we're not pushing the big creators anymore. We're pushing the smaller creators. It's time to push the smaller creators.
Starting point is 00:38:57 So all the people that have big followings, literally not getting pushed anymore, unless you're in a niche and you're just literally pushing that content over and over and over again Everything on Instagram is niche base So whatever you if you're trying to grow on Instagram pick one thing and crush that one thing and talk about that one thing Mm-hmm. That's it. Don't try to be all over the place Don't try to be broad because once you start being broad your audience might get bigger
Starting point is 00:39:20 But now you got different people that like different things So if you post something about one thing and they're not interested in that one thing, you get low engagement. If you get low engagement, Instagram says, oh, okay, their followers going down. It's not relevant anymore. They're not popular. We're not going to show it to the audience because it's no point in pushing that algorithm to these people if they're not messing with it. Right. It's based off the retention, right? Right. I would suggest creating a new page and talk about something else. New company,
Starting point is 00:39:44 new everything, and then just push whatever you want to push separately on that page. Smart. How tough is dating with your Nomad lifestyle? Because you're always on the move. Dating is... When I was living Nomad, I was just dating people all around the world.
Starting point is 00:40:00 I went to an HBCU, so I went to Prairie View A&M University, which is an all-black college. Dated all-black women. I'm from the hood, I'm from South Central. Dated all-black women. When I graduated, and then I went to U of H, and I started going to Texas A&M, I started learning about kind of like diversity.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Then once I did my first traveling experience to Cancun, I'm like, okay, this international. Then I went to Europe. It's overseas, right? And I'm like, yo, and they like black guys. A lot of races like black guys. I think black guys are the only people that are liked by all races in general.
Starting point is 00:40:40 I think a lot of other races are like, oh, I don't like this type, I don't like this type. But I think black guys in general, black Americans, because some people think black is everywhere. It's not just, black is America. Black people in general are just more liked culturally from all races, all different types of women around the whole entire world.
Starting point is 00:40:59 So I've been diverse recently, just dating in and out, but I just recently just got in a relationship. So I was just working on that, you know? So it's good to be in a relationship. If you need to buckle down, if you need to buckle down on your business or you're trying to grow, I would say, don't get in a relationship if you can't handle it.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Cause it's just gonna pull you apart. You have to spend more time with that person. You have to spend more money with that person. You gotta give them all the energy you can. So if you're not that type of person, you're not set in your life, date, but don't get into a relationship unless that person is supporting you
Starting point is 00:41:30 or they have their own thing going on in the same realm as you. And you guys meet up when you can meet up in a dating life experience. Do you have trust issues though? Cause you're dating when you reach a certain level. So do you feel like they're kind of using you? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:41:42 Me personally, I know who I am and I know who I date. So I would never have. Oh really? So you don't think they're using you for your followers or your money? Oh no, no, no, no, no. I date people that are pretty much same as me. Okay.
Starting point is 00:41:54 Unless they're from overseas or something like that, then it's more like they're a super genuine person. Really nice, don't ask for much, want you to be super nice as well to them. And they bring a lot to the table. The only thing is, they're in a whole other country. So that's where you get the whole green cards, flying them over to visit, you're going over there.
Starting point is 00:42:12 Gets expensive. Yeah, it starts to get a little expensive. But I feel like dating in general, I think it's a good thing. It's a big topic on social media platforms, and everybody has their opinion. But I think the best thing to do is just find your friend. If you want a date, you could date.
Starting point is 00:42:26 I think guys can date much older than women can. I think guys can date until they're 70, 80 years old, right? If you have the right bag, you have the right amount of money. I don't think, you don't see women in their 60s divorced, going out and dating a 22 year old, 24 year old, advertising it on social media platforms, making it an actual thing.
Starting point is 00:42:46 And I'm not saying women should do that, and I'm not saying men should do that either, but I'm just saying in general, just try to find your person and your friend at the end of the day. And I think you'll live a way better life, because I think a lot of people just try to go for looks, love, whatever the person has,
Starting point is 00:43:02 but that doesn't reciprocate into love. It doesn't last. It doesn't last long. You're wasting your time in general. Find your friend. Your friend is gonna be there, whether you're with them in a relationship or not. And then once things hit the fan, once you start to grow,
Starting point is 00:43:16 they're literally growing with you. You guys can meet at a mutual, respectful level and say, hey, I think we should date. It's been a long time. We've talked about other people that we dated, laughed about it, cracked jokes about it, and made fun. But I think it's best to date a friend. That's an interesting take.
Starting point is 00:43:32 I've never heard that angle to be friends first and then date them down the road. Yeah, be friends. People are in a rush these days, but they're not having kids and they're not getting married. So at the end of the day, what are you doing? If you really like someone, you really love someone, make a commitment. The same commitment you make to work, the same commitment you make to something that you of the day, what are you doing? If you really like someone, you really love someone, make a commitment, the same commitment you make to work, the same commitment you make to something that you love
Starting point is 00:43:49 the most, you commit to every single day, you put in a lot of time. If you're gonna commit to a person, marry them. Oh, I wanna get married, I'm not ready. Okay, but you guys are having sex. You guys, you're spending money on this person. It's money spending time with you. So it's like, what is the real goal? Why not just date, don't commit, and date multiple people. But at the end of the day, people
Starting point is 00:44:15 don't want to do that because this person, this girl, or this guy is asking you for commitment, but it's half of a commitment. It's just to lock you in, but it's not to really keep you forever. So that's why I think a lot of people go crazy. So what do you think of the Red Pill movement? I don't think that shit is real. What do you mean? I don't think it's real. I think it's... I mean, I don't think it's real, bro.
Starting point is 00:44:45 I do social media for a living and study humans. Everything is manipulation, everything. Marketing products, social media in general, manipulation. How can I get this person to follow me? How can I get this person to buy this product? How can I say something to get a person mad? Hey, let's set up this podcast. You say this, I say this,
Starting point is 00:45:06 let's get the folks riled up in the comments, let's get more followers, get more engagement. But at the end of the day, what's the end goal and who's teaching these people and what are humans learning from watching these types of content? They're getting tricked. If somebody will tell you, you're in a bad relationship and sleeping
Starting point is 00:45:25 next to nobody, or they'll tell you, hey, leave that man. And they have their own problems with their own man at the house. 100%. They're projecting. Can't keep a man. How could you do that? That's why it's best to just, I think one of the greatest books is the Bible. I'm not religious at all. And I'm not an atheist. When people say you don't believe in this, but you're atheist, I'm just nothing and I'm not an atheist. When people say, you don't believe in this, but you're atheist, I'm just nothing. I'm spiritual at the end of the day. Yeah, same.
Starting point is 00:45:49 But I think the Bible is a great book just to have so you can understand how life works because everything goes in a circle. There's a Jesus sometimes in some people. There's a David sometimes in some people. And there's different stories in the Bible that people are doing currently today, the way people move, the way people stab you in some people. And there's different stories in the Bible that people are doing currently today, the way people move, the way people stab you in the back. I think people should just read it not as a religion and read it understanding how life works, circle of life, so you can kind of like grow faster. I think zero through 18 is one quarter, 18 to 30, which is 12 years is one quarter, 30 through 50 is your third quarter,
Starting point is 00:46:25 and then 50 until you die is your fourth quarter. You can't do everything in your third and your fourth quarter that you could in your second and your first. You could never get those opportunities again. A lot of people say you do. If you look at Silicon Valley, a lot of people that are creating companies are in their 40s and 45 years old, so it's never too late. But at the end of the the day your looks and how people treat you on social media They won't look at you the same you can't be a 45 year old rapper trying to rap and trying to come out early Right just rappers are for you know 15 to like you know 30 maybe yeah But you could be a country singer forever
Starting point is 00:47:02 See how the different demographics hold you accountable for the type of things that you do. It's just about culture and it is the wisdom it's always gonna be like that. You even have people, trolls, shout out to the trolls on social media platforms. You guys are almost undefeated. The internet is undefeated and then the trolls are like second undefeated.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Cause sometimes you can, if you're smart enough, you can kind of manipulate a troll on social media platforms if you're really good and if you can withhold, withstand them coming at you and keep attacking you. But the trolls, they even have no remorse or no ethics because they're behind the keyboard. Yeah, they're ruthless. They're ruthless.
Starting point is 00:47:38 They will say the craziest thing. You could go onto a post of somebody passed away on Instagram and Shae Room is posting it and they're like, they're gonna comment on what that person did away on Instagram and shade room is posted and they're like They're gonna comment on what that person did for a living and hold them accountable for what they did for a living and say something Really terrible about yeah, I've seen that It's insane. It's nuts. It's insane. Oh, I thought there were a rapper. Why they got a go for me Maybe the you need to bury somebody as soon as possible The family have no they have no passwords to as soon as possible the family have no
Starting point is 00:48:08 They have no passwords to their Twitter their Instagram. They have no Passwords to their Wells Fargo account. They don't have the access now if you have life insurance Yes, but a lot of people don't get life insurance and I suggest everybody to get life insurance You don't necessarily health insurance you could pay out of pocket But I would say get health insurance again life life insurance. Million dollar policy at least. You never know, man. Never know. You never know. People are dying every day for no reason, unethically, ethically, COVID shots.
Starting point is 00:48:35 Richo McQuine. It's crazy. A few days ago. Crazy. Shout out to Richo McQuine, man. He's come to the club a lot of times. Yeah, that one was nuts, dude. I didn't see that one coming.
Starting point is 00:48:44 I didn't see it coming. I didn't see any of our people of our generation losing their lives so fast. You could just see the guns, the drugs, the RICO cases, scammers. You just see everything come into light now because of social media or depression. You don't know what a person is going through.
Starting point is 00:49:06 Imagine being at the top of the game and then having your run and not knowing how to handle being just regular again. People talking about you, people dissing you, trying to stay in the game, trying to still do music because that's all you know. It's not like you can go work a job or work at McDonald's. Shasta Spectacular, he's been doing a great job with transitioning as an
Starting point is 00:49:29 artist from Pretty Ricky to doing his thing on the social media platforms and doing marketing and leveraging it and connecting with other people of significance. Yeah I get it's odd she's killing it. You gotta transition ladies and gentlemen transition make sure you transition with your age with your time and your group, and take your money and maximize it times 10. Very important. Now you said you grew up in a rough environment, so was there a specific moment
Starting point is 00:49:52 that made you wanna go the ethical route? I think seeing all my friends be successful, and I think me being in the gangland environment, I think into me being alive in it and never having a real situation, never getting shot or never being in a tough situation where I had to do something to somebody, I think that made me realize, okay,
Starting point is 00:50:14 I think I'm an angel at the end of the day, because I've lived in between Hoover's, A-Tray gangsters, Roland 60s, FMS 13. Damn. So Mexicans over here Hoover's over here a tray over here You got 60s over here and then you got like dark side 40s and Bloods All in one area no matter which way you go you running into somebody crazy and what they trying to recruit you recruit Beat you up take your shoes. I've never had that happen to me ever what ever I've rode the bus
Starting point is 00:50:46 I've went to go see girls in people's hoods never had a situation I've I think I think I don't know but I know how to look at people not to talk to people You know your energy is pure my energy It's about your energy, but I've had a lot of friends pass away a lot I had a lot of friends get into the gangland environment and and they're in jail right now. I have a lot of friends pass away. I had a lot of friends get into the gangland environment and they're in jail right now. I had a lot of people do bad things and they have to pay the price for that. And I've been around it. And I've held my shit down.
Starting point is 00:51:12 I held myself down. But I've never been the person to be a follower. I think it's about being a follower versus being a leader and just holding your ground. It's like a lot of people will respect you more if you just hold your ground and stand on your ground and do your own thing. For anybody out there that's,
Starting point is 00:51:28 if you're being peer pressured to do something, I would just say stand on your 10 toes. If you feel like deep in your heart, you don't wanna do something, don't do it. Because at the end of the day, the price you have to pay is worse than getting beat up or getting called a bitch or whatever the case might be. You're gonna see who's the bitch at the end of the day.
Starting point is 00:51:52 Trust me, I promise you. You're gonna see who's the bad person, who's gonna be put in jail, who's gonna be shot, who's gonna be put on a dummy mission to go do something stupid, and you have to pay the price for that for a long time. So I just think I'm blessed. There's a lot of people that's not blessed where I'm from.
Starting point is 00:52:08 I always go back to the hood. I always go back to the projects. I roll up my Rolls Royce Lamborghini. Not that I have one, but I do roll up in a Rolls Royce and Lamborghini and give back to the community. Yeah. Do you think this is fixable within our lifetimes? Like those communities?
Starting point is 00:52:24 For sure. Cause they're getting pushed out by gentrification. So gentrification and technology are gonna put those people in a better position. A lot of people see it as, oh, they're taking their homes, and it sounds crazy to me. I know a lot of people gonna say something crazy
Starting point is 00:52:36 in the comments, but I see it as them getting forced out into a better position, because they're only gonna stay in that spot. It's their home. It's messed up. But I think with, you know, people getting put into the right position and them getting moved out to a better position because you can't move nobody out without putting them somewhere.
Starting point is 00:52:57 That's one thing you can't do. You can't kick someone out of somewhere without putting them somewhere and giving them some money. So that's gonna help them too. So it's taking them out of the hood, taking them out there, ops situation, getting them out of somewhere without putting them somewhere and giving them some money. So that's going to help them too. So it's taking them out of hood, taking them out there ops situation, getting them out of the gang life. That's a lot of people that moved to Pomona, Pasadena, no further out in the valley. Yeah. They still try to keep that, that gang life going,
Starting point is 00:53:17 but it's like, it's kind of hard to bang it when no one's outside and there's nothing going on. So they got to spread them out, right? They can't put them all in one area again exactly so I think personally I think is good I think we'll definitely see it in our lifetime with technology and people start to grow because there are a lot of people doing a lot of great things for children in the community yeah I do think that Instagram and social media platform gives a person to see like hey I can make it out hey I can rap hey I can be a doctor hey I can can make money on social media.
Starting point is 00:53:46 Shout out to Funny Mike. Funny Mike's one of my guys from Louisiana. He's been killing it on social media platforms. He's been genuine. He does what he wants to do. He cusses. He's ghetto. He's black. He's a father. He's a brother. He's a great friend. He showcases that all on his YouTube. And guess what? Still has families reaching out to him
Starting point is 00:54:05 He's blowing families up on YouTube teaching them how to do YouTube He's taking other people's kids and bringing them to the house leaving them there Having them build a following and then taking letting them go back home and build their following and posting them on the platforms and stuff Like that, so it's like you could be yourself. You could be genuine You could be culture and still push promote positivity and still be family oriented a lot of people try to like Like fake it. Yeah, you know social media platform. So I think we definitely can Make it out here in these streets. Yeah, the faking stuff long term just doesn't work out doesn't work You gotta be yourself with it unless you have money like and even then it your money's gonna dwindle away. If you ever bought anything that's worth a lot of money,
Starting point is 00:54:48 it's always, unless it's art, unless it's property or real estate or something like that, it depreciates. Oh yeah. A car depreciates unless it's a classic. You know what I mean? So as soon as you drive it off the line, it depreciates. You wanna get things that are inflated
Starting point is 00:55:05 majority of the time that have inflation, natural inflation. I think what's the inflation rate every single year, 2.5? That's what they said, but this year it's terrible, right? Yeah, it's probably like at a high five. But every year inflation on your money is 2.5, anywhere from 2.5 to 5%. So in 10 years, 50% of your money's worth is gonna be naturally gone.
Starting point is 00:55:26 Crazy. You know what I mean? So it's like, I remember when bag of chips were 99 cent. I remember that. $25 chips, right? Y'all remember that? Now the $25 chips are a dollar and a dollar bag of chips, 99 cent bag of chips are what? Two bucks? Yep.
Starting point is 00:55:42 Like 210 or something? Yeah, candy went up, candy doubled up, ice cream, everything. Eggs are like 10 bucks on. Just pay attention to your surroundings. That's what I would tell people all the time. Pay attention to your surroundings, have multiple revenue streams,
Starting point is 00:55:54 and kill it and have good connections. The money is out there. They're printing money every single day. I think they have, for 2024, I think they have the permission to permission to print what 38 million notes cheese 38 million notes you can go to federal reserve dot com dot gov and look up how many federal notes they're going to be printing every single year and they always say they exchange the money which means You know when you turn your money in you read business
Starting point is 00:56:24 You turn your money in it goes to the bringstruck bringstruck sends it to the fed. Yeah, they exchange the money, which means when you turn your money in, you're a business, you turn your money in, it goes to the Brinkstruck, Brinkstruck sends it to the Fed, they exchange the money, right? They exchange it. But there's 5% left over that they don't swap out. Or they quote unquote burn, or the government asks for money. Wherever that money is going, it's going to someone,
Starting point is 00:56:42 that person is spending that money on something, whether it's luxury items was luxury items luxury items Then get spent resold. It's just the money just trickles down. Wow next person That's why there's so many people getting richer and richer and richer if there's no money How are people getting how are new people getting rich? How are their new millionaires? Don't don't listen to what these people are saying out here talking about. There's no money is it's not enough money for everybody It's enough money for everybody out here. Literally, everyone.
Starting point is 00:57:06 Yeah, a lot of fear mongering. A lot of that, just to keep you suppressed and keep you down. But just definitely do it. I'm gonna tell people, to be successful, literally, I know people heard this before, but to be successful, you need 10,000 hours. Put 10,000 hours into your craft, seriously.
Starting point is 00:57:24 Eight hours a day, if you could do it, right? Eight hours of sleep, eight hours of work, eight hours of free time. Now, if you wanna go hard, do 12. If you do 12 hours every single day, 365, I think you could be successful in three to four years. Right, if you do the hours, 10,000 hours. If you're gonna do eight hours,
Starting point is 00:57:41 it's gonna take you about five years. But you have to do it every single day. Weekends, every single day, you gotta put in eight hours, it's gonna take you about five years. But you have to do it every single day. Weekends, every single day, you gotta put in eight hours of your craft. Now if you wanna span that over a course of two years, you can put anywhere from 14 hours to 16 hours a day. Yeah, and that's what we did. But you can't have a job unless you are not sleeping.
Starting point is 00:58:00 So it's like you have to have somebody to support you, your mom, your girlfriend, a wife, a brother, someone to support you, your mom, your girlfriend, a wife, a brother, someone to support you through your journey that's gonna say, hey, this person is gonna make it. They're serious, they're taking this shit serious, they're working hard every single day, I'm gonna support that. That's what I think a lot of people fear,
Starting point is 00:58:18 other people being supportive, and I think a lot of people fear of, this person won't support me through my journey because it looks like I'm just taken from you or I'm taking from someone and I'm just doing whatever I want to do when this person might have dreams and goals too. So it's like, all right, let's do you first and then let's do me after. I've never seen anyone on social media or I've never seen any basketball player or any, I've never seen it.
Starting point is 00:58:43 If that person did not put the work in, they did not get what they wanted out of it. Yeah, you can't skip that stuff. You can't. You can't. They have industry plants. They have people that put the money, the machine behind you. But we see what happens to those people.
Starting point is 00:58:59 I won't say any names. I won't say any names. I'm not trying to go viral, but you see what happens to those people. Those industry plants, they die out in two years. They die out in four years because the fans like, oh, this person's fake. Oh, they was fake to their friend. Oh, they can't make songs.
Starting point is 00:59:13 Oh, they can't write songs. Oh, this guy can't even play basketball. He can't even shoot. This percentage is terrible. He got ranked really high because he had connections and people that were pushing him, coaches and all that. Then he got to the NBA and it's trash. Can't dribble left.
Starting point is 00:59:24 He can't dribble left. He can't play under pressure. Bright lights is too much for him. He has a problem outside of the basketball court. He doesn't put in the work. You'll see it. And that happens all the time. It happens all the time.
Starting point is 00:59:37 I remember when we was playing basketball and I wanted to be in the NBA so bad. And then I saw that paperwork that the colleges get where you actually get paid to come play the bigger teams. So a bigger school like Duke will pay a smaller school like $200,000 to come, right? Because the school would take the $200,000, pay for the bus, pay,
Starting point is 00:59:58 because you're not flying really in college like you driving. Pay for the bus, we would eat Domino's or like buffets, right? When I seen that $200,000 and how much these colleges was paying other colleges to play us during their pre-season, I was like, oh, this a money game. I was like, this a money game right here.
Starting point is 01:00:18 Okay, cool. Let me start throwing these parties. Let me start using my influence at this school to start throwing parties. Let me take my OP check, my overpayment check, take that, put it into something that's gonna generate me more money in college. That's what I was doing.
Starting point is 01:00:33 Put the people who were buying cars and chains, I was putting my money back into myself and getting money from the students on campus, throwing parties. From the freshmen all the way up to the seniors to even dealing with the fraternities and sororities, partnership parties with them. And we have a thousand people at the party and we charge them $10, $15 a head. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:00:53 We have the local people performing at the party to make them come. So that's the type of stuff that I was doing once I saw that paperwork because the paperwork is crazy. You don't know how much these schools are getting per player. They give you a scholarship. Now they have the monetization platform. You know, it's great. But during our time, they didn't have that. Oh no.
Starting point is 01:01:13 NCAA was printing in your time. NIL changed up the game for sure. Changed the game. You still play? Yeah, I still play basketball. You gotta play, bro. Shout out to the Migos. Shout out to Quavo.
Starting point is 01:01:22 We beat two chains for that game. I think it was the Academy game. I had like 25 or something like that. Let's go. We might have to run while you're out here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's do it. I just saw the league you were playing in. I followed them recently.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Oh, the Summerlin one? Yeah. 24 hour fitness? Yeah. I need to go up there and roll out a little bit. Yeah, dude. It's a good league. You should join.
Starting point is 01:01:41 Yeah. I definitely like it. Sunday afternoons. Well, dude, it's been fun. I'm glad you're back in the spotlight. Yeah, I definitely like it. Sunday afternoons. Well dude, it's been fun. I'm glad you're back in the spotlight. Yeah, I'm back. So your podcast will be the first post on my page since I think 2022. I've only posted once every single year
Starting point is 01:01:54 to let people know that I'm still alive, I'm still doing stuff, and I'll throw a bunch of stuff in one long reel. But after this podcast, I'm getting back into it. I reached out to a lot of people that do quick Instagram reels and things like that, shorts. So I'm gonna do it myself, but in my own way. Showcase is a little bit different than how most of these people are doing it out here.
Starting point is 01:02:14 Oh yeah man. We'll be the first to post on the page. Appreciate you dude. It's been cool seeing you journey. Thanks for coming on. Yeah, for sure. Thanks for watching guys, as always, we'll link Mark East below in the description.
Starting point is 01:02:23 See you guys next time. Peace. Thanks for watching guys as always we'll link Mark East below in the description. See you guys next time

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