Digital Social Hour - The Truth About UFC & Modern Fighters I Colby Covington DSH #1232

Episode Date: March 12, 2025

Ready for an unfiltered look into the world of UFC and modern fighters? 🥊 Join Sean Kelly on the Digital Social Hour as he sits down with Colby Covington, one of the most polarizing figures in combat sports. From his journey to the top of the UFC to his candid take on fighters like Jake Paul, Brazil's fight culture, and the truth about steroids in sports, Colby holds nothing back. 💥   Discover what fueled his meteoric rise, his passion for giving back to the next generation of fighters, and why he’s considered one of the most controversial athletes of all time. 🇺🇸 Colby shares his thoughts on politics, his legacy, and how he balances life inside and outside the octagon. Plus, hear his insider stories about coaching on The Ultimate Fighter and what he thinks about the future of UFC champions.   Packed with valuable insights, jaw-dropping revelations, and a glimpse into Colby’s fearless mindset, this is a must-watch for fight fans and beyond! 🏆 Don't miss out—watch now and subscribe for more insider secrets. 📺 Hit that subscribe button and stay tuned for more eye-opening stories on the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! 🚀   CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 00:26 - Colby Covington - MMA Fighter 04:59 - Specialized Recruiting Group - Talent Acquisition 06:51 - Donald Trump - Political Influence 10:43 - Are You Ready to Die - Mental Toughness 11:12 - LeBron James - Basketball Greatness 13:11 - Mike Vick - NFL Controversy 14:47 - Are Sports Getting Soft - Athletic Toughness 16:24 - Steroids in Boxing - Performance Enhancers 19:14 - Trump Rally at MSG - Political Events 22:30 - Do You Want a Family - Personal Life 23:07 - Child Support - Family Law 24:48 - Climbing the Ranks - Career Progression 26:27 - Early Stoppages - Fight Referee Decisions 28:30 - Most Memorable Moment of Your Career - Career Highlights 31:13 - Did You Feel Held Back on Instagram Before Elon - Social Media Impact 32:45 - Your Relationship with Dana White - UFC Dynamics 35:10 - Will You Get Into Politics After Fighting - Future Aspirations 38:39 - Importance of Education - Lifelong Learning 39:05 - How You Met Blake - Personal Relationships 39:29 - Being the Best Poker Player - Poker Skills 42:18 - Collusion - Game Integrity 44:30 - Marked Cards - Cheating Methods 46:05 - Cheaters - Fair Play 50:02 - What to Promote - Branding Strategies 50:16 - Outro   APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: [e-mail]   GUEST: Colby Covington https://www.instagram.com/colbycovington/   SPONSORS: SPECIALIZED RECRUITING GROUP: https://www.srgpros.com/   LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/   #mmanews #ufcnews #ufc #joerogan #ufcweighin

Hit boxing or boxing really? Yeah, he's not that good. Damn I've had some training partners and went and train with him and they're like he's not good at all Like he's just he juices up, you know, you could tell he's a lab project. He's got all these steroids and chemical imbalance He got all these, you know pimples on his face and his crack which kids shouldn't have when he's at his age I just don't think is that be over finer. Hmm I just don't think is that be over finer. All right guys out here in Vegas got Colby Covington. He's out here filming. Thanks for coming on, man. Thanks for having me. I really appreciate it.

Yeah. Full circle moment for you filming on that show again, right? Yeah. Full circle miles that kid early in my career. They just really wanted to get to the UFC would do anything to get on that ultimate fighter show. Cause that was the platform to get into the UFC at the time. And now I, here I am being able to give back some of my knowledge and wisdom that I've, you know, accrued through my career and help these guys try and understand what it takes to be a UFC fighter. Must be such a surreal feeling, right?

Yeah, it really is. You know, seeing these kids, you know, I see myself, you know, 15 years ago, when I was just starting my journey and all at one that would do anything to be a UFC fighter, even if it meant like how the UFC fighter rules are which is to get locked in the house for five weeks with 18 other competitors and you're all competing for that one contract. So you know it's a tough situation but how bad do you want to be a UFC fighter is what the UFC is asking these kids. Damn so only one person gets a contract out of that show?

Only one kid. That's insane. Pro weight class yeah. Holy crap. It's a competitive career. If you want to make it, you got to show that you're one of the best and you got to show how bad you're willing to go, how much sacrifice you're willing to make and how good you are to be there. Do you still feel like you have that same drive as you did when you were on that show? I do. Yeah. I still have that same hunger in my spirit. That's the you know, that's the same soul, that burning fire in my soul to, to compete and show the world that I'm the best in

the world. So I'm driven by hate. Like I get a lot of hate, you know, in the MMA space and, and especially because I support president Trump, a lot of people like to call me names and, you know, all these racists, he's fascist, he's, you know, misogynistic. And so, you know, I like to prove haters wrong. So that's why I still have that, that burning fire in my soul. You might be one of the most hated fighters of all time.

Yeah. I would say probably the number one figure in my opinion. I don't know, just all the hate, I get all the death threats, you know, the, the bounties on my head, you know, damn you're actually getting death threats and bounties. Yeah. When I went to Brazil, you know, that's when I made my career I said, you know all these people are yelling at me you buy more

Hey, you buy more hey, which means you will die when you walk to the octagon. Holy crap So I'm like, oh you guys you fans want to dish you better be ready to take it So I went and beat their Brazilian legend Damien Maia the number two guy in the world like number two on the wins List in UFC history left him in a pool of blood I said all you Brazilians are filthy animals and your country is a dump. And they took it personally. They put a $50,000 bounty on my head. They said they didn't want me to leave the country without being beheaded. And you know, that's how my career started.

Holy crap. Yeah. I heard Brazil's pretty dangerous actually. Yeah. Super. I don't know if I'd want to go there just on vacation. Think you would. You're sitting in a car and the windows rolled down.

They're going to come by andatched your iPhone right out of the car Yeah, I'm known for that. They got some good fighters now though, right? Alibara. Yeah, they got some great fighters You know the lineage from the Gracie's, you know, the Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Lineage has really brought up fighters in Brazil and you know, they realize that this is their way out of Brazil out of the favela Is that tough, you know? Tough life that they have being broke. This is the way to make money and become a professional athlete. Which country right now do you think has the best fighters? I think USA still, I think, yeah, I still believe USA is, is the centerfold

for the best fighters in the world. You know, we got the, the beautiful facilities out here in Las Vegas, Nevada, the UFC performance Institute and the UFC apex. So, you know, I think fighters that are the best where they come out of America. Yeah. It's hard to beat America. I mean, Russia looks like they're catching up though, right? Yeah, they're doing good.

They got some tough guys from Dagestan that are doing well, you know, but they have a champion or two, but which they've had, but I just think like overall, I think overall we have better fighters. You know, they have a couple of top runners, but they don't have a lot of depth, a lot of depth. And, uh, I just think America is the best. Yeah. So last year was one of your worst years, right?

No, it was one of the best years. You know, we won, we won back to white house, you know, if I'm back in office, it's one of the best years of my life. I meant for fighting, but yeah, no, that's facts though. Yeah. But for fighting, you know, the bigger fight is Trump being in office, you know, bringing down inflation, keeping our country safe again, keeping our borders secure, keeping our cities safe.

So, you know, I look at the bigger fight and that's the fight for America and putting America first again. You know, I put myself second, you know, my career comes second before, you know, America's career and the future of our country. Wow. Yeah. I know you spent a lot of time campaigning. That was probably a full-time thing for you last year. Yeah, it was. Me and my buddy Bo Loudon, we were traveling stop to stop.

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Take the next step in your career by starting at srgpros.com, srgpros.com. That's our fighter. He's the greatest fighter we've ever had in America. So we wanted to fight for him. We wanted to show off for him and just show any type a little support we could and just rally people around and show them That this is the biggest fight that we've ever had in America is to take back that presidency. What's he like off-camera? Is he the same guy? No, he's off-camera. He's the funniest guy I've ever met in my life. Every time I see him

He has a joke like he his sense of humor is out of this world. He's like larger than life. He's so funny. He's always cracking jokes. It's never serious talk around him. It's always just jokes. Like he just wants to have a good time and, and enjoy his life. You know, of course, when it's on camera, it's business time and he's the best businessman we've ever seen in America.

What he, what he's been able to build with the Trump empire, the Trump organization. It's, it's second to none. So he's doing that with America, you know, he's, you know, he's, he understands basic economics. So he's done great things for our country, but off camera, he's just a funny guy. Yeah. Hello. The him and Elon are deadly combo, man.

They are. They are. I call them the Avengers. Those are two guys that just, they were made to be together. They just, the yin and yang, they just have such great things and they have great chemistry too, so it's amazing to see them on the world scene pissing off all these politicians. Yeah. Their confrontation with Zelensky was insane. Oh my God. That's never been showcased before or something like that. Never. No, but that's how it's got to be. You know,

we're the strongest country in the world. We have the greatest military in the entire world. So, you know, you're not going to come over here and make threats to us, especially when we've given you hundreds of billions of dollars. Like, who do you think you are Zelensky? Like you're acting like a privileged entitled little kid. If you've given you 400 billion, what else do you need from us? You know, go get help from the European countries, from NATO. For real. Are you a fan of any foreign aid at all? Not really, just because, you know, I want to put America first. You know, we have, you know, a lot of homeless people on the streets. You see it in Vegas. You see it in all these big cities.

You know, let's clean up our own cities. Let's, you know, keep our borders safe. Let's, you know, put more money into the military. You know, we've forgotten about our veterans that go out there and fight overseas for these wars, just for these politicians to make them rich. Let's, let's get back to our military. And that's kind of why I started, you know, a recent, uh, a charity for America's champions foundation.

You know, I started it with my friends. All my friends are either police, uh, staff, sergeants, uh, sergeant majors in the army, um, Navy combatants. And we're like, Hey, how can we use my platform to give back to good for the people that we're forgetting our heroes? So, you know, I started America's champions foundation. We're having this charity poker tournament at the hard rock in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, April 2nd, and a hundred percent of the proceeds go

back to the troops and to our veterans. Wow. That's important, Matt. I mean, that's so cool. The homeless problem is a major issue, but when you see States like Cali getting a ton of money for it and no results, it kind of pisses me off. Yeah, no results. I mean, the hundreds of millions of people out there, you know, on the streets in tent

city and it just, it doesn't make for a safe environment for the people that live in that community. Yeah. We need to clean that up, you know, and not incentivize them. Look how they're incentivizing them in California. They're getting them small traces of heroin. Hey, as long as you do these drugs, but you do them from the government, it's safe to do. What?

What? No, it's not safe to give bums heroin or meth or whatever you're giving them in crack pipes. No, let's get them off the streets. Let's promote good health and being a good Samaritan. I hate to say it, but I don't know if homelessness will be fixed from the government. I think it has to be people like you,

people that have influence that go out there and do it, you know, cause I'm just giving money to the state or the city. It doesn't work. That's true. You know, they just keep the money somehow. Yeah, that's I went recently and was donating a bunch of cheeseburger, a couple hundred cheeseburgers to some homeless in Fort Lauderdale for, with my sponsor BC game and, and, uh, all the homeless were saying, Hey, these shelters were built in place, but they're not helping us with anything.

You know, the government's given them, you know, tons of money, but we're not seeing any of that. And so, you know, even the people out there saying they just feel helpless because no one wants to help them. Damn, that's messed up, dude. I mean, it doesn't shock me anymore, especially seeing Elon investigate some of these organizations. I mean, the social security one was crazy. There's millions of dead people claiming the money. That's our tax dollars. Elon investigates some of these organizations. I mean, the social security one was crazy. There's millions of dead people claiming the money. That's our tax dollars.

It's our tax dollars. And then wasn't there one like 56 million for Sesame street, Afghanistan or something like that? Yeah. The condoms one too. Yeah, the condoms. Come on. I mean, we work hard for our money, dude. You're out here literally risking your life for money.

Yeah. And then you're giving 40% of it to the government and they're spending it on that. I know it makes me sick, bro. I've lost a lot of brain cells to get gotten in my career and in my financial security and to give away 40%, you know, I've given away millions of dollars to the government and just to see where it's going right back into the, either the arms of the politicians or in the military

industrial complex overseas is just, it's, it's despicable. It's nuts. I've heard you say on Hodge twins that you're ready to die when you enter that ring. I am. Yeah. Except every time the, you know, backstage that this might be the end of my life. And you know, if it is at least it's doing something I love and what I'm

passionate about, which is fighting and martial arts and expressing myself. And, and if I do die in that moment, then that's okay. That is a crazy mentality, man. Yeah. For real. Fighting is dangerous, bro. It's not, it's not for the, for the week. You know, it's not for, you know, people like LeBron James who they get a cramp

and they're going to see a couple of weeks. So I saw you call him out for the China stuff, right? Yeah. He's, he's a Chinese finger puppet. He makes all his money in China. You know, he's, he's over there, you know, he's his, all his merchandise has done in China with all these women that are working for pennies on the dollar in these Chinese labor sweatshops. So you can't talk about equality if you're not really about equality.

What about the women in China that you're employing for cents on the dollar, but you're making hundreds of millions LeBron. How do you care about equality? Oh, you don't. You're a hypocrite. You're fake. And I'm going to call you out every time for it. Are you talking about his shoes or like what's being made in China for him?

Yeah, his shoes, his shirts, all his merchandise. Damn. Is made in China. So is Nike in China then? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so I guess you could say that about all their talent then. A lot more so than that.

I know you're a fan of MJ but damn, yeah they're making them cheap over there. Making them cheap man. I'm a fan of Made in America but at a certain certain point, if it doesn't make sense business wise, I've outsourced other countries, you know what I mean? Yeah. Because sometimes it's just so expensive. That's true. So from that point of view, I get it, but.

I get it. Yeah, but he definitely has some weird ties. I'm not going to lie. Yeah, he has some weird ties. Like what do you think he meant when he said, uh, ain't no party like a diddy? You can't come back from that one. It sucks though, cause I'm a fan of Hoops and I like his game, but off court, like, You can't come back from that one. It sucks though, cause I'm a fan of hoops and I like his game, but off court, like she's

pissing me off, dude. Yeah. You know? Yeah. He's a great athlete, but as a person, he's a terrible human being. Yeah. Even during the BLM riots, you know, he's putting targets on first responders and law enforcement officers backs, like saying they're the enemy, but then he's going behind the scenes. Oh behind sees oh yeah please please protect my family give us private security whenever you want

but oh no police are the bad guys black lives matter just discuss yeah BLM was the truth has come out about BLM yeah and it's nasty yeah where they spent that money I seen like two of the the the owner had like two mansions in California that they got burned down. Oh, it got burned? Yeah. Damn. So what are they going to do now? They have to start another organization to scam the American people. So messed up.

Yeah. You also called out Mike Vick. You want him in prison for life? Yeah. I can't believe that they think that he should be a college coach. This guy was inhumane. He killed dogs. He fought dogs for years.

You don't come back from that when you do something like that to an innocent, you know, animal. I mean, that cares so much about animals there. They don't have a choice of who's their owner is going to be or how people are going to treat them. So, you know, it's just disgusting that there's all these other great Americans and great qualified coaches that should be that job. And you get Mike Vick, this, this dog killer, this dog murder and dog, just neglect their job over these people that it works so hard.

It would just have, you know, no criminal backgrounds. It just, it doesn't make sense to me. Yeah. I feel like they pick and choose who to kick out. Right. Cause they kicked out Colin Kaepernick for nailing on the anthem, but then they let him back in the league. Yeah.

Makes no sense. Kind of weird. I mean, I wasn't a fan of the nailing too, but the dog fighting seems worse to me if I had to pick one. Yeah, that's true. You're killing innocent dogs. Yeah. And this in dogs like that's so sad, you know, the kneeling too, like I can't even watch football anymore. It's just, it's not bearable to me. We start kneeling on our national anthem. Like those are my heroes. Those are the people I looked up to more than anybody in the world. The first responders, military veterans. And when you use kneel on the

flag that they fight for, that flag is everything to them. They look at that flag like it's their mother, like it's, like it's their God and they're willing to die for it. They're willing to go overseas and die for it. So all these athletes that are privileged can have this great lifestyle, make multi-millions of dollars and make more money than they should be making to play a kid sport.

And, uh, you know, it's just, it's, it's pathetic that they nail on that. So I can't support that. I can't watch football. Do you feel like a lot of sports are getting soft these days? Yeah, just they're being, they're sold and they're buying out, you know, like basketball, they're, you know, they sold out to China, you know, they all their logos, all these, all the stupid little slogans they have on, on the Jersey's equality and, oh, and racism is back.

This and that. Like it's just they're just they're just trying to really create a lot of conflict within this country. And it's not right. Yeah. Yeah. Basketball is high. Soft man compared to Jordan's era.

So it's tough to watch now, man. It is the flopping. Oh, my gosh. These players are just, yeah, they're so soft. Yeah. Same with football, honestly, because you can't tackle certain ways now. I mean, I get it because people were getting injured, but it's not the same. It's not the same, man.

Yeah. Super Bowl was tough to watch, dude. Did you watch that game? I didn't. I didn't even watch it. It was tough. Was it? I mean, everything feels scripted. Yeah. You know what I mean? Exactly.

And even a lot of fights, like, I don't know about UFC, but boxing, a lot of it feels of fake Yeah, right. It's like the Jake Paul stuff. Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's that's all fake I think he's paying all his opponents. I'm I've heard from some guys are like, yeah He's paying those guys to take dives and it's all just scripted like you could tell in the types of I was there live and Tess is like biting his closet. He like you could tell he's like holding back and he wants to go and yeah There was like a couple people that heard Jake say hey, don't you better not go crazy. You're not gonna get paid. Wow Yeah, he's that's my stomach gimmick fights man It's just that's why ufc is the greatest organization in the world because you know

It's as real as it gets and they put the best fighters against each other and there's no script It's as real as it gets and we're gonna fight to the death. Yeah modern day gladiators Do you think if you fought jake paul you'd win? Oh, yeah, I'd win with one hand tie behind my back. Hit boxing or boxing? Really? Yeah, he's not that good. Damn. I've had some training partners They went and trained with him and they're like, he's not good at all. Like he just he he juices up, you know You can tell he's a lab project. He's got all these steroids and chemical imbalance He got all these, you know pimples on his face in his back which kids shouldn't have when when he's got all these steroids and chemical imbalance. He got all these, you know, pimples on his face and his back, which kids shouldn't have when he's at his age.

And I just don't think he's that good of a fighter. How common is using? It's very common among combat sports, any sport, you know, you look at the Barry Bonds era and Mark McGuire and baseball is so prevalent. Football, you know, it's prevalent in football and, and all sports, you know, everybody's looking for revenge because there's so much money on the line. I thought they cracked down on it though.

Did they not? They did. But like, as you've seen in like that documentary, I, I Chris on Netflix, like the Russian, the doping scandal, like they have good chemists, they, they have good doctors, they are able to mask these steroids inside your body. They're able to put, you know, IVs in you to thin the blood in the water. So you can't test for it. So people, they found ways to beat it.

That's crazy. And how much of an edge does it give you think in fighting? I mean, I don't know because I've never tasted it. There was, I've only been natural, but I can imagine it gives you a massive edge because I was training with a kid one time, a couple of years ago, and, and I trained with him one week and like, he couldn't go a minute. And he did EPO, which is like the drug that Lance Armstrong was doing during the tour to France.

And he did the EPO, he was shooting it up in his body. He came back the next week, he was going like 10 rounds straight and he still wanted to go around. So I'm like, bro, damn, what happened? What's the difference between this week and next week? And he didn't want to tell me. And then I literally walked to pick him up one day for training and I walked in on him when he was literally putting the needle on his ass.

Oh, what is that, bro? Holy crap. He's like, this is EPO, bro. Don't say this between me and you. And like, and so I realized it makes a huge difference because this kid couldn't go a minute the week before he's gassing out instantly. The next week he's doing 10, 10, five minute rounds. Like he's a madman and he still has energy afterwards. That's nuts. So it gives you a huge edge. Huge edge. Wow.

Massive. Crazy. Do you think Ryan Garcia did some steroids? Because he got caught up allegedly, right? Yeah, allegedly. It looked kind of weird though. It looks super shady. I don't think so. I like Ryan too. So I don't think so. Just the way he beat Daman Haney and, and you know, his dad, they always make excuses,

you know, they, they've hit the L, they got to take that L, you know, it's his first L. So he just, you know, there was a lot of inconsistencies with the test. Like supposedly the drug testing agency was like a second, uh, drug testing agency hired by Bill Haney, by Devin's dad. So that's a conflict right there. Yeah. It's a conflict of interest. A hundred percent. Yeah. That alone should rule it out if it's hired by his father. Yeah, exactly. I mean, you could pay them off or whatever. Which is, I think they got dropped, right?

I don't even know if it's still. I don't know. Yeah. He announced his next fight. Yeah. Did you see the Gervonta fight the other day? I didn't get to see it. I was over at the Spear.

So I was up. It was sick. I heard that Nemo show. No, I heard it. Oh God, you guys see it, bro. Yeah. Dude, insane. Some of the show. No, I heard it. Oh God, you guys see it, bro. Yeah, dude, insane. Some of the visuals insane.

Like they put this freaking robot on the screen. It's just some of the things it does on the screen is just absolutely crazy. So shout out to the Dolan family. You know, we got a relationship with Chris Dolan, James Dolan. They're great people. That's awesome. Did you meet them through Trump's team? Yeah, I met them through Trump's team and actually bowed out and bowed out

Introduced me to Chris stolen. We went to a Knicks game together We went out to Madison Square Garden because the garden they owned the sphere as well And that's where we did the Trump rally back in October that rally was nuts that now that rally was amazing Did you speak at that one? No, I didn't get to speak but we sat in the owners block with James Dylan and Chris Donovan and wait a great time And we got to be on the floor, walk around. It was crazy to see all the speakers that they had there. I thought he was going to win New York after that rally actually.

I did too. They had like, not only did they have a sold out Madison Square Garden, they had like 50,000 people lined up outside all the way down to the Hudson River. Very crap. I didn't know that. Yeah. Because Kamala wouldn't have been able to do that.

No chance. It would have been empty in there. She couldn't even fill up a high school gymnasium. Yeah. When he lost New't have been able to do that. No chance. It would have been empty in there She couldn't even fill up high school gymnasium Yeah, when he lost New York, I gotta say I was shocked because of that rally dude. I mean a hundred thousand people Yeah, everybody was shocked. They thought he was a shoe in to win that like all the support he gets out there Like yeah, it's not what the media will never show you that though And they will show you that there's you know hundreds of thousands of people wind up in a blue you know New York City. They want you to you know believe that they're propagated. They

tell you that New York's blue and they hate his policies. Yeah I think tides are churning. I grew up in Jersey actually. I think they might vote red in 28. It's looking good. You think so? I think so yeah. We've got people out there going door to door, really campaigning. Okay. And, um, I don't know how people can vote left these days. I know. I mean, there's no one, I try to stay pretty objective. There's no one that really impresses me on the left right now. No. You know, who's their next front runner?

Like who can they even put out next? People are saying new some AOC, but they don't impress me to be honest. No. You know, well, look what new some is done with California. I mean, it's a disaster down there. It's terrible, man. I know why you live in honest. No. You know? Well, look what New Zealand's done with California. I mean, it's a disaster down there. It's terrible, man. I know why you live in Miami. Yeah.

Miami's nice. How long you been out there? I've been out there 15 years now. Oh damn. So that's a minute. Yeah. It's been, it's been fun, you know, great climate out there. A lot of beautiful mamacitas and women's, you know, I'm a single

bachelor, so of course, you know, I like to, you know, get new dates every day. Is that by choice? Cause you're so locked into fighting. Yeah. Like you don't have time for dating. I think it's by choice, but it's also partial because the girls in Miami just, they don't have good values, you know, no morals and their moral compass is off all they care about is money.

Yeah. I just want rich guys and you know, even if the guy's 70 and they're 20, it's okay. As long as you're going to give us on a yacht, take us around the world in your private jet, go to all these expensive places, get me coach bags. That's all they care about. They call them 304s, right? Fresh and fit podcast is out there just roasting them every day. Yeah.

That's probably the worst downside of Miami, right? The dating scene for guys. Yeah. It's the worst. Everything else is solid. The networking, the weather, food's probably the worst downside of Miami, right? The dating scene for guys. Yeah, it's the worst. Everything else is solid, the networking, the weather, food's good. Yeah. But dating is just, man, that's rough, dude.

Yeah. Do you want a solid girl by your side though? Yeah, I think, who doesn't want that? That's like the dream for every, I mean, in my opinion, for every person growing up as a man, you wanna have a family, you wanna be the man in the house, you wanna have kids and a legacy to leave behind. Yeah.

I think that's important, but I don't want to do it with the wrong girl and give her half my money. That's hard to present. Definitely don't want to do that. So get that prenup. Get that prenup. Sometimes those don't, you know, hold them core, you know,

the women, they have a lot more rights to men these days. It didn't hold up for, who was it? Bezos? Bezos? Yeah, I don't think it held up for him. Yeah. And now his ex is like the fifth richest person. Exactly. Crazy. Just for being what, you know? Yeah, I don't know if I'm a fan of 50% honestly. No, I think you should take care of them, take care of the kids if you have kids, but 50% is like, and these child support numbers, holy crap. They're out of this world. Especially for someone like you, because it's based off your

salary. Yeah. So you'd have to give up five figures a month probably. Yeah. And then you look at like a guy like Elon Musk. I mean, look at the baby mamas to him. You have to look at that recent one, Ashley Sinclair. She's out there just claiming that they had a kid and she wants like millions of dollars now. Like she wants full custody too. And full custody.

Come on. Yes. That's nuts. That's gross. Child to Elon though. He's just at his 14th. Yeah. That's insane. It's amazing, man. Global pop.

He's trying to add those numbers of population. Yeah. His legacy will be around for a while now. He's not going anywhere. Anytime, sir. Yeah. You want kids? Yeah. I want kids. What about you? Same. So I'm getting married this year. Oh, congratulations. Thanks. I want at least two, I'd say at least two. I grew up an only child and pretty lonely. So I think own child is tough. It's tough. You turned out so good, so smart.

I'm decent, you know? But that's the thing we share is like that victim mentality. Like we had different upbringings, but a lot of people grew up like I did and they didn't end up like me. Okay. So it's all how you internalize it. That makes a lot of sense.

Yeah. Did you have siblings? Yeah, I had two sisters. How was that? It was cool. You know, I always wish I had a brother that I could play sports with and stuff. But it was cool to have sisters where I could protect them and look after them. And if anybody touched them, they knew that they were Colby. Like I was coming to fight them. Were you the oldest brother? I was the middle. I felt like the oldest. Yeah. Yeah. It's cause I wrestled and I do martial arts my whole life. So like, I felt like I was the old brother. I feel that. So I think your rank number eight now in your division, uh, you think you could

climb the ranks this year? Oh, for sure. A hundred percent. If I'm going to climb the ranks and be champion again, I will be champion. You know, my last fight was a really stoppage. It was a little cut that I had over my eye. I was going to win the fight. You know, it was one, one going in the third round and we had two more rounds to go.

And the doctor was the DEI doctor. She was there what to do. You know, we're in Tampa, Florida and they don't have fights there very often. So if this isn't Vegas, that fight keeps going. And I, and I win the fight. And I'd still be ranked top, you know, five in the world. I think I was number four at the time. So, you know, if I want to be the champion, the guy that's the champ right now is a good matchup for me. He can't beat me anywhere. So who's champion? Oh, you know, if I want to be the champion, the guy that's the champ right now is a good matchup for me. He can't beat me anywhere. So who's champion?

Oh, this guy below. Remember the racist, you know, he said, he said the only reason I got a title fight. My last title fight was because the color of my skin white privilege. Wow. Yeah, people still play that card. People still play that card. Yeah. That was my mind.

Crazy, right? Yeah. I'm happy. Di's gone. At least that's true. I know. Yeah, below. That was my mind. Crazy, right? Yeah. I'm happy DEI has gone at least. That's true. I know. Yeah, but law, he, he won that at the sphere, right?

That was the title fight there. No, that was Rob. Oh, Marab. Yeah. That was a great fight too. Damn. Yeah. I think you'll climb the man.

Number eight, you got any fights planned this, this year? Nothing planned right now, just cause I'm coaching the ultimate fighter. So, you know, first and foremost, I want to give back to these kids and help these kids achieve their dreams. I've done great things with my life and my career. So I want to help give them some wisdom to go on and reach the heights that I've reached in my career.

And then after the season is done and I think it's a couple of weeks left, we have three weeks left. Then we'll start looking for the biggest and best business we could do within the company. Talk to Hunter Cam, we'll talk to Dana White and sit down. So maybe international fight week this summer back in Vegas makes the most sense. That'd be cool, man.

Do you think they should change how stoppages work? Cause you said it was an early stoppage. Has that happened to you a few times now? No, it's never, it's the first time it's ever happened to me. Oh really? Yeah. I literally, when I was in Brazil, I had that same exact cut that the scar tissue was in the same exact place and my face was bleeding.

Like it was so bad blood dripping down my face I threw my eyes couldn't even see. Yeah, but I kept fighting because I'm a warrior. This is what I want. I signed up to go out on my shield. Let me go out on my shield like a warrior. So you know in that fight I came back and I won with the cut and this fight you know he was still draining over my face but I was coming back. The momentum was changing and I was walking this guy down and then the girl doctor comes

in. Oh my god I've never seen anything like. my god, you're gonna lose your eyelid Colby this fight stop No, it has to stop. I'm like what are you shooting? Like you're you're a woman. You're not a man You don't you don't understand what it takes to to fight inside the octagon You obviously you've never seen fights before so you don't understand like what you're looking at and just it sucks because I feel like I got Robbed, you know now I'm know, down at number eight in the rankings when I know I'm the best fighter in the world still. So, you know, it's unfortunate, but you know, I'm not going to cry and I'm not going to play victim.

I'm just going to work harder and I'm going to come back stronger. Yeah. Yeah. That must be frustrating. That used to happen in ideas a lot too. Yeah. I think when there's a lot of blood, it scares them, but sometimes when you have what you talked about, the scar tissue just bursts right just burst man these little bones over your eye

your eye your cheeks and eyelids are just they're really they stand out you know so when they get hit they get Nick they they cut easily especially from the little UFC gloves they're four ounce gloves yeah and not 12 ounce gloves they're 10 ounce gloves like boxing that's annoying though because if I was your opponent I would take advantage of that yeah you know what I mean for sure I would try to make you bleed. Yeah. So, maybe he knew that and went for it.

Well, that's the worst part is like he didn't even hit me and make it bleed. It was like I was wrestling and I was taking him down and my, my, my, uh, my eye bone bounced off his hip. Ooh. So that's what caused the cut. It wasn't even like a punch. And then once he saw it, he started targeting it. He started jabbing. He started trying to open it up more, you know? Damn. That's rough. It's rough. It's bad luck, you know?

Holy crap. Which fight do you think about the most in your whole career? Probably the one that I won the world title, Rafael dos Anjos in Chicago, because that's the one that got me the White House. I was the one that, you know, got a call from the sitting president, Donald Trump, and got me to go to the Oval Office. Like I never thought as a, as a kid coming from a small town in Oregon where nobody makes it out, all the people in Oregon just work in the mill here. I am on the biggest stage becoming the world champion and getting a call from a sitting president to go visit the oval office. That's cool.

Not nothing. We'll ever top that. Yeah. Was that your, your most memorable moment of your whole life? Do you think without a doubt? Yeah. It just, Trump actually called you. He actually called me.

Right. Holy crap. Great fight. Colby. I thought that was a great speech. Uh, I appreciate you saying you want to come to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue and we're going to have you out next week. And I was like, what Mr.

are you serious? Mr. President? He's like, yeah, Colby. Yeah. We'll see you soon. I'll get your flight arrangements. We'll get everything worked out, you know, and, and I'll see you soon in the

White House and then here I am, you know, in the White House in 2019 and sitting in the Oval Office, all these senators walking out, you know, the Rhino Lindsey Graham's walking out, all these other, you know, big name senators. And here I am, just some UFC fighter from Oregon who's sitting and getting ready to go meet with the President Donald Trump.

He's working on all these issues, you know, about saving money, keeping America first. And here I am just going in there to deliver my UFC title to the president. Just so surreal. That's legendary, man. It blows my mind when people turn down that offer because the Eagles just turned it down.

They did end up turning it down? Yeah. Wow. Which is crazy. Because that's not like a once in a lifetime opportunity. Yeah. Even if you're not Republican, like you should at least experience it in my opinion. Yeah, a hundred percent.

And they had turned it down in 2019 as well. That's funny because when they turned it down, that was kind of the reason that I was able to get pushed to the front to go right away to they're like, Hey, the, the filtered out the Eagles see it right down. So now Colby Covington gets to come and, and, and take their spot. It's so crazy though. Like you should go and like experience it no matter what, uh, like political belief you have.

Yeah. Well, agree or disagree. Like you should go and like experience it no matter what like political belief you have. Yeah. Well, agree or disagree like you do. That's the highest honor in America to go to the Oval Office into the White House. Like that's the most historic building in American history. How could you not go pay respects to it? No matter what side of the aisle you're on, you don't have to be cool with Trump or say good things about him, but just go and experience it, man. Like show that you're proud to be an American the

country that gives you everything there's a reason you're you're making you know 50 100 million dollars in the nfl it's because of this great country in america go try trying to go try canada go try all these other countries you're not going to be able to make that same money anywhere else but america can't make it and you can't say anything yeah we got free speech here that's right yeah well we did it for a little bit on your, you know, who, but now we do again. Now we do. Elon really saved that with buying X, man. That was like the start of it all of saving speech. Did you feel held back on X before Elon? Without a doubt. Like I had like 700,000 followers. They took away like 300,000 followers right before the election. Damn. Yeah. It was bad. It was like losing

thousands every day. I was like, what is going on? Like I was telling my buddy John, like, how is this possible? He's like, dude, like freaking Twitter. They're really throttling any account that is conservative, and especially because my main pictures with Donald Trump in the oval off of it. So they made sure I was like the biggest throttled account from the Republican side, Instagram as well. You know, they wouldn't let me get one more follower since, but I've been in two title fights, you know, the main event fight in T-Mobile Arena, selling a million pay-per-views, you know, all these big events, all these political rallies, and they won't let me get one follower. It's just, it's so sad that free speech has been taken away and they won't let the truth be heard. Same here, dude. I've been, I posted a photo with Trump on Instagram, and I'm like, I'm going to go to the next one.

I'm going to go to the next one. I'm going to go to the next one. I'm going to go to the next one. I'm going to go to the next one. I'm going to go to the next one. I'm going to go to the next one. I'm going to go to the next one it's so sad that free speech has been taken away and they won't let the truth be heard. Same here, dude. I've been, I posted a photo with Trump Jr. Not even Trump. So they must have an algorithm on him too. And I didn't gain a follower for two years and I get a hundred million views a month on Instagram. And I'm not growing followers. I'm losing followers some months. Crazy. It probably makes you not

ever want to be involved. I mean, it sucks. I needed to go viral and stuff, but, um, I get more views from non-follower than followers cause they throttle your reach. Yeah. So like none of my followers see my shit. This is not crazy. It's crazy. Just completely shadow band. Yeah.

We'll see if Dana joining their board helps. I don't know. That's true. Hopefully it does. I think it might cause he bulls speak his mind at least. True. Yeah. What's been your relationship with Dana like over the years? Um, it's been up and down.

In the last couple of years is it's very gravy. It's smooth. I'm very thankful to Dana White for all the opportunities he's given me for the opportunity to meet Donald Trump. He's the one that, you know, was able to call Donald Trump and get that, get that meaning to go to the white house and overall office and deliver my world championship. So I'm super grateful for Dana early in my career.

I wasn't, but I didn't see things the right way. You know, I was very, uh, you know, just in my own world, you know, I thought I was done unjust and I thought that, you know, I was taking advantage of, but, you know, I, I didn't realize that you gotta, if you want to eat something, you gotta kill it, you kill what you eat or you eat what you kill. So, um, you know, I started self didn't realize that you got to, if you want to eat something, you got to kill it. You kill what you eat or you eat what you kill. So, um, you know, I started self marketing, doing better promotion and they started paying me better. So super thankful to Daniel White, all the, the privilege and opportunities

he's given us in the UFC and. You know, just love everything that he stands for as far as freedom and, and not putting a muzzle on any fighter. He lets anybody speak their voice. He, no matter what side of the aisle you're on, he's not going to muzzle. You can say whatever you want. So God bless Dan on the UFC. I love it. Yeah. I love him or hate him. He lets anybody speak their voice. No matter what side of the aisle you're on, he's not going to muzzle you. You can say whatever you want. So God bless staying on the UFC. I love it. Yeah. I love him or hate him. He's a straight shooter. He is. He'll tell it to

your face too. He will. Yeah. He's not afraid. Yeah. And it doesn't matter how big you are, how tough you are. He'll tell it straight to your face. That's why I love it. Yeah. He's so smooth. Yeah. It doesn't seem like he fears anyone. He does not fear anybody. Yeah. Both sides. Yeah. Yeah. He's, he's not afraid to have a debate with you.

You know, it was just debate facts and, and tell you the truth of what's going on and feel like it too bad before I even was a fan of the UFC. I would watch his press conferences just to see how he talks. Cause he's one of the best talkers I've ever seen. Yeah, honestly, he's probably the best talker I've ever seen. Besides Donald Trump, just public speaking. He's just on point. You can not, you cannot trip him up on anything anything and he's just so well versed in everything pop culture politics

You know the world he's yeah, there's no gotcha moments with him. You're not gonna get him saying some wild shit See that yeah. Yeah, there's no clips you could put up that are memes that are gonna make it look stupid And he came back from a lot cancel culture tried to get to get him. You know, he came back from it. I think Cancel Culture is dead. Honestly, I think it is too. Yeah. I don't fear it anymore. I used to like actually fear it, like posting photos with certain people.

But now I'm like, whatever, dude. Yeah. You know, now we got back control of the government and we got, we, the people are back in charge, you know, we, we put back our leader and, you know, he doesn't stand for that. If they, that cancel culture is not going to work, you know? So it's good that we got Donald Trump back in. Do you think you'll get into politics after fighting?

I would like to. I think it would be cool. You know, I think it'd be fun to serve and fight for the people, to be in a position where you're serving the public. I think that would be awesome. You know, I'd love to fight for the people and, you know, just do, do right by people. I, you know, I've made a great life for myself. So now I just want to get back to other day.

I think that's my mission and motivation going forward. So if I can get into some political office where I'm giving back and, and making sure that people have the power, then I think that'd be my greatest honor. That'd be cool. Maybe a cabinet position under Vance. Yeah. Maybe under Vance runs next campaign. Yeah.

Maybe even this one, you know, I'd like to get on that make America healthy again, training, you know, who better guy to, to preach to the kids in the schools around the country than someone who's been healthy his whole entire life. Since I was five years old, 32 years of, you know, good health and training and, and reaching goals. So, you know, my big thing, I want to make sure kids, you know, are being healthy with their fitness. You know, when I was a kid, we used to have this thing, I want to make sure kids, you know, are being healthy with their fitness.

You know, when I was a kid, we used to have this thing called the National and Presidential Fitness Awards. I don't know if you know what that is. I never heard of it. So it was like, it was in these schools and these kids, if they reach these goals, like for a mile, if they ran a mile and seven minutes and they got the Presidential Fitness Award, if they did in eight minutes and they got the National Fitness Award. So they were kind of incentivized to have good times and be healthy and and reach your fitness goals now

We've went away from that now You know these kids they're they're taught to be obese play video games and eat the slop in the cafeteria Which is absolute trash food and we're not making these kids healthy and putting good things in their body and telling them to work out And have physical exercise because I think that's important. I think kids got to have physical exercise. They got to get out there, be healthy. And you know, that just opens up everything. It's going to help you be a lot smarter in your brain. I think there's a lot of chemicals that releases serotonin and whatnot.

So that's my big issue right now. I want to get on the make America healthy again, train. I want to bring back the national and presidential fitness awards. That'd be great. They should definitely bring that back, man. My gym teachers were fat growing up. Yeah, right. How does that, how does that relate? Yeah, there should be a weight limit for gym teachers.

You know, you want to teach gym, but you're going to be fat. No, no fat person is in the gym. You know, nah, nah, that never made sense to me. Nah. Um, yeah, kids these days, uh, a lot of distractions, man. I think it's probably harder to be healthier now. I think it is as a kid. Yeah.

Cause before there wasn't iPhones. So we weren't addicted to scrolling. Now we used to go outside as kids. Yeah. I don't see that anymore. No, these kids, I see a lot of kids like my friend's kids, they just sit on an iPad all day, just playing all these different apps and like, how is that benefiting them?

How am I getting smarter? How are they, you know, being healthier? You know, they're just sitting and eating fast food and McDonald's and just scrolling these iPads. So this is a way we should be teaching our kids. We should teach them, go play as many sports as you want, just as, you know, so you're busy and you're staying active and you're being healthy. And then, you know, let's talk about the things that are in our foods, you know, like even, you know, RFK starting to expose that all these seed oils,

pesticides, all these preservatives like in our foods, like even, you know, RFK starting to expose that all these seed oils, pesticides, all these preservatives like in our foods, like why are we, why are these all in our American foods? Like let's take this out and let's stop poisoning the people. Yeah. It's terrible food and water. The fluoride stuff. Fluoride. Yeah. That's been proven to drop IQ. So our kids these days are dumber than we were when we were growing up. Yep. And I've always tried to drink bottled water and stay away, you know,

but it's tough, you know Not a lot of people could afford bottle water. Yeah, you have to drink out of the tap. So Yeah, we need to we need to pull back that by out Hopefully doge will go after that and expose all the corruption among water and our food. Yeah 100% man. Yeah, it's needed. These these children are the future of our our country Yeah, and if they're not mean, plus the education is terrible. I mean, I don't know. You went to public school?

Yeah, I went to public school. I mean, did you learn anything? No. I remember, you know, making a couple, a couple of bucks like out of college and like, no one told me about taxes. No one told me about investing and this and that. So I was like, I made a hundred grand and like, when I was like 25 and then I was broke when I was the next month. Damn. Was that from fighting? Yeah. Oh yeah. No, I was a hundred grand and like when I was like 25 and then I was broke when I was the next month. Damn, was that from fighting?

Yeah. Oh yeah. No, I was actually from poker. Oh wow. You played poker? I played poker. I'm a big poker player. Oh shit. You know, I was talking with Blake Wynn, you know, who's who connected us and got me on the shin shout out to Blake Wynn, but I'm going to go play his celebrity poker tour. But that's kind of how I met him is like through poker. And, and I just love poker.

I'm super passionate about it. I want to be the best poker player on the earth. I always come to Vegas every summer and play the World Series of poker. So that's a big thing for me. What's the farthest you made it? Not I got to like the top 8% last year. I think I got 700 place or 600. Holy crap out of 10,000.

That's good. It was like 20,000. Damn. Yeah, so you're nice. All right, you know, I could play with I'm nice, you know if I'm making final tables then that I'm nice Yeah, cuz that's a whole different sport than fighting it is so to be good at both is really impressive to me Yeah, you know now is always my dream I want to be like a simultaneous to sport world champion So yeah to be a poker champion and fighting champion at the same time

I think would be like that would cement my legacy as like a great athlete. So you're good at reading people done. Good at reading people and putting pressure on people. That's what I do in fights. I put a lot of pressure on people. So that's the same game plan I put on when I'm playing poker. I'm putting a lot of pressure. I'm applying the chips and, and using the math percentages against them.

And I'm also fearless, just like I get in the cage. I'm fearless. You know, I take a lot of risks with my health every time I step in the cage, but it's the same thing when I'm also fearless just like I get in the cage. I'm fearless, you know I take a lot of risks with my health every time I step in the cage But it's the same thing when I'm playing poker. I'm I'm not afraid to make the big three-barrel bluff Damn, and you know the percentages too. I know the percentages I know I know the players though, you know all the pros now I know everybody so I studied the game and I see how all the pros are playing these days and I'm the new kid on the block, man. Everybody thinks I'm stupid.

They're like, oh, he's a fighter. He gets punched in the head. No way. He's an intellect and can think, you know, deeply through these poker equations. But no, I'm proving them wrong. Do you use the GTO stuff too? No, I just, I'm more a field player. I know they have like the solvers, all that stuff, but I'm not big into that.

Cause when you're under pressure and it's in that moment like That's when it's most important when when it's you know when the bright lights are on Mmm, so I feel like the solvers take away from the fun of the game. They do you know what I mean? Yeah, there's robots like there's no more emotion. There's no more reading people because you know what they're gonna do. Yeah So I like the old-school poker personally. Yeah, you play I don't but I've had on Negron who on the show I've had on all the top poker personally. Yeah. You play. I don't, but I've had on Negronu on the show. I've had on all the top poker guys. Okay. Yeah. Those guys are, people don't know how hard it is to do what they do

and make a living off of it. For sure. Like they don't get the respect they deserve. They don't. Yeah. The emotional strength that those guys have, the ups and downs, the swings, the heartbreakers that they have to deal with. I mean, you can be the best poker player and like Negronu knows time and time again, he's probably put it in 80, 90%

favor to win, but then you lose. So it's like, how do you like internally like deal with that? Yeah. What? I was 90% how the fuck did I, I'm supposed to win nine and a 10 times. How was it that one time that I lost? For real? What's the most you've lost in poker? Man, a lot. I don't know if I should talk about it on here. Yeah. It was that bad. Yeah. Holy crap. Yeah. It's a, it's a lot.

Couple hundred. Jeez. At least you've made some. Yeah. At least I've made some, you know, I've won some tournaments, you know, here and there I've done pretty well in cash games here and there. But the big thing is that the big cash games that I learned, uh, at Aria about two years ago when I lost the most money is that everybody is collusion.

Everybody's teaming up together. Like they knew I had a lot of money from fighting and like fighting in title fights. So they all brought me to this game and they were all taking 50% from each other. And then they were all just playing against me. Wow. Yeah. So I came in, you know, with big money, you know, six figures plus every time I'd sit down. And these guys were literally just playing against me. And the only reason I figured out cuz I lost like a ton of money

And I went home that night and the next day I came back I just wanted to play and get back my money so bad and like one of the players came outside before I was gonna Go in he was like my fan. He was like, oh cool. I'm such a big fan. When are you gonna fight again? I'm like, yeah, you know, I'm gonna fight again soon. But the fight I want is tonight. I want to fight in this poker I want to get my money back. Yeah, so he's I'm like, how's the game going? He's like, oh, it's going great because, you know, the owner of the game staking me, he's taking 50% of my action.

So I'm like, Oh, I didn't tell him in that moment, but I'm like, I leave and I'm like, I put it all together. I'm like, if he's taking 50% of this kid who he's not even friends with all the other guys he's closer with, I know he's taking a 50% of that's collusion. That's cheating.

Yeah. So like in the poker world There's a lot of collusion and a lot of scandals. So it's like I don't trust playing high stakes poker cash games anymore I'll only play big tournaments now like I went to Bahamas played a 25k Tournament for the WSOP because I know the tournaments are legit. You can't you can't mark the card You can't share 50% of the action and straight up So I'll only play tournaments from here on out because they're not messed up. Did you call them out?

I didn't call them out because I was like, I didn't want to make a big deal out of it. And, you know, I just didn't know who was going to believe me. I'm like, it's just my word against their words. Yeah. I told a lot of different people, like in the poker community, I was like, don't trust this guy's game. Like this guy's clearly playing with his friends. They're sharing 50% of the action.

That's clear collusion. That's cheating. So you want to play against these guys. Good luck. You'll never win long-term. It's literally impossible. So I'm glad to find out it could have cost me millions. I look wild.

Yeah. I heard Vegas has some of the toughest competition in the casinos. It does. Yeah. A lot of these players, they move out here with the dream of being a professional poker player. Yeah. So their dream is to, to make it in these casinos and you know, the toughest players in the

world are playing here. Yeah. Here's some horror stories with these home games, man. Like the dealers in on it or like marks cards, marking cards. It's not worth the risk. They got glasses that you could really, yeah, they could have glasses like that. You don't even know that they're literally there. They have like a thing on there that shows like what card is what.

Oh, wait. Yeah. Why? Yeah. And they're like their prescription glasses, the clear see through, you can't even tell and they have this little thing that just sees like the markings on a card, like each card is marked with like a lit illuminated type thing. Holy. And no one else can see it unless you have these glasses on. Dude.

That's what I would never guess. Yeah. That's a while. Oh, and it took so long for people to figure it out. She is eventually one guy was just like, what the fuck? How am I losing bad beat after bad? Like Kings to Aces like over and over. How is that possible?

Yeah, because over time, you know, something's up, right? Yeah, you start seeing, you know, a repetition of hands where you're losing coolers, you know, Aces to Kings or straight to a flush. And it's just like, that's not statistically possible. Like poker is like it's hard to make a parent poker sometimes. So how, how is he just always beating me? Want by one hand, he always has the nuts and I always have the second nuts.

How, how is that possible? Yeah. It's nuts. Who do you think the goat with poker is? I think the goat of poker is, I think honestly, Fator holes. He's a favorite player. That's a rare answer. Yeah.

He's man. You got him over Ivy. I got him over Ivy because he's had a lot, a lot of scandals. He got kicked out of the Aria. He used to have that room at the Aria. Yeah. That was her back right though. Right.

Was it back route or blackjack? I think. Oh, one of those. Yeah. One of those. Yeah. I don't know. That just, that always puts a stain on it.

You know, when you, when you're cheating against a casino. Yeah. Well, I know you have a reputation for calling out cheaters. Yeah. I don't like cheaters. And I've fought a lot of cheaters and, you know, in the UFC from camera who's men, who's obviously on, on stairways, you look at him. He looks like a lab project.

This guy looks like a bodybuilder. Yeah. You know, I had to fight that guy twice for, for title fights. So I know he cheated me out of many titles. So yeah, from your perspective as someone that's all natural and you know, you're better than them if they're all natural and then you lose to them, it must be super frustrating, right? Yeah. It's super frustrating cause I've never cut corners.

I've always done things the hard way, you know, and the right way, you know, I didn't cut corners and do stairways to get an advantage. You know, I just trusted him. I believed in God and I had faith in my work ethic. And you know, I let that be the determiner, but you get cheated out of, you know, titles, titles and millions of dollars is like such a hard thing to have to swallow. Yeah. Yeah. Cause that's legacy too.

It's not just money. It's like being the champ. Yeah. Like that goes down in history. It goes down to history. People still, you know, talk shit about me online. Oh, you got, you got your face broke. Oh, you got beat up.

You got this and that, which I've never been beat up or knocked out, but it's just funny to hear them say that. But yeah, I can't rewrite that history now. Now that's forever. Which is crazy. If you're going up against guys on stairs and you've never been knocked out. Well done, dude. Super thankful, man. Freaking got an iron chin and I don't think there's a man alive that can take my, take my soul. Yeah. See, that's impressive. I can't believe that stuff's still going on. I thought they cracked down on it.

Yeah. I mean, they do. They got the drug testing companies, but these companies can't detect some of the steroids that these guys are coming out with these new, you know, these new, uh, yeah, these new steroids that these doctors are coming up with. And, and these doctors are getting so smart these days. They have such advanced technology that they're able to mask it. You know, do these steroids and they can mask it.

And no matter if they do blood or urine, they're able to mask it and get away from the whole I'm doing that. That's scary. I wonder what percentage of people are on it. Done. It's gotta be fighting or sports fighting. Well, probably everything, but yeah, I would say in all of it, like 80, 85%. Holy shit.

Yeah. That high. I really believe that. I do 85%. Holy shit. Yeah. That high? I really believe that high. Dude, that's crazy. Yeah. It's just, there's so much money up for grabs. These guys, they know what they're doing. Like they're, they're willing to risk their life in their, in their future

and their longevity of their health, just for short-term gain and to get famous and to make all this money. So, yeah, cause that's going to take years off their health, right? Yeah. In the long run. See all like the pro, the pro wrestlers, like I'm big into WWE and shout out to WWE, but a lot of those from the old, old days, you know, they all ended up having like enlarged hearts and heart attacks, like 10 or 20 of them, like

Eddie Guerrero and Chris Benoit and all these, all these guys. I've seen that. Yeah. And a lot of the bodybuilders can't even walk these days. Nah. Yeah. You look at Ronnie Coleman. Yeah. Super sad.

Dude. It's so sad to see, you know, he can't even walk around. He has to have the stroller everywhere he goes. Yeah. I guess to get to the top, people are willing to really, you know, sacrifice their longevity. Which is crazy to me. I don't want that. Yeah.

Cause this is just a phase of your life. Just, you know, you'll fight for 20, 30 years, but you're going to get into bigger things out for those. Yeah. It's just one chapter of your life, you know, fighting, fighting, bodybuilding, whatever sports, like one little chapter. Yeah. And you go into the next chapter, whether it's, you know, coaching or

giving back or being a world big podcast or like yourself and, you know, there's always life after sports and competition. Yeah. You're going to start a pod. Um, I don't know if I had the right team, you know, there's always life after sports and competition. Yeah. You're going to start a pod. Um, I don't know if I had the right team, you know, if I had people around like you did, like maybe I would, but I don't know. I think I'm too late in the game. I think the game's kind of oversaturated and legends in the game, like yourself,

you know, so I don't want to compete with you. You know, you've been doing a lot of laws. Yeah. There's a lot of shows. If you do start it, you need a unique angle. You can, you know, okay. You need a unique show. But I think people will listen to you. I know you're doing YouTube stuff, right?

Yeah. I just got into the YouTube building, my YouTube channel and I'm big into the streaming world now with Twitch and yeah, just trying to open up all the different social media avenues that can help me in my financial security. I love them. Dude, it's been awesome. Anything else you want to close off with our promote? Um, just, you know, the biggest thing is just my charity, April 2nd. I'm very passionate about that. You know, it's all about the military first responders and giving back to those guys.

And, and so, yeah, we're having our tournament. If anybody wants to come out April 2nd to Hollywood, Florida at the Hard Rock Hotel and Casino, we'd love to have you and a hundred percent of the proceeds are going back to our military and our veterans. And just really appreciate you having me on the show today, Sean Kelly and shout out to Blake Wynn. Thanks for reducing us and keeping us and bringing me on here.

And I look forward to watching some more podcasts of you in the future. And thank you for everything you're doing among the podcast base and the free speech, absolutists. Thanks man, it means a lot. We'll link your charity stuff below and your socials, thanks for coming on. Thanks man. it means a lot. We'll link your charity stuff below in your socials. Thanks for coming on.

Thanks for having me. Check them out guys, see you next time. See you next time.