Digital Social Hour - The TRUTH About Web 3: Patience Unveiled | Stevie Williams DSH #766
Episode Date: September 29, 2024Discover the real deal about Web 3 with Stevie Williams in this captivating episode of the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! 🎥🌐 Uncover the power of patience and development as Stevie shares ...his journey through the ever-evolving world of Web 3. 🚀 From his innovative Scapes project to the exciting potential of NFC technology, this episode is packed with valuable insights that'll keep you on the edge of your seat. 🤩 Join the conversation and learn how patience can be your greatest asset in navigating the digital landscape. Don't miss out on Stevie's inspiring stories of creative freedom, overcoming setbacks, and transforming challenges into opportunities. 📈✨ Tune in now and watch as we dive deep into the world of digital innovation. 📺 Hit that subscribe button and stay tuned for more eye-opening stories on the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! 🚀 Be part of an exclusive conversation and gain insider secrets that'll change the way you view the future. 🌟 CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 00:30 - Web 3 & Patience 02:16 - Scapes 05:16 - NBA Playoffs 08:25 - Family of Athletes 10:20 - Vision & Execution 12:47 - The Dip 16:39 - Public Failures 19:59 - Being Selfish 23:50 - Dealing with Haters 29:17 - NFCB APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: Jenna@DigitalSocialHour.com GUEST: Stevie Williams https://www.instagram.com/steviewilliams https://www.threads.net/@steviewilliams SPONSORS: Deposyt Payment Processing: https://www.deposyt.com/seankelly LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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That's a good word for Web3 because a lot of people jump ship on Web3.
You still see the long term with it, potentially Web3.
I mean, I've always seen the long term and the rabbit hole is deep with Web3.
But patience and development is like the key.
It's just that I had to form the roadmap of patience to understand how fast it changes.
All right, guys.
Stevie Williams here.
What's popping?
Got a lot going on.
Can't wait to dive into it.
Yeah.
Got a Web3 project.
Got your apparel brand.
Yes.
What's been the main thing these days?
For real, for real, the main thing has been patience.
Yeah, patience.
We're getting deep off the start here.
It's deep.
Yeah.
The rabbit hole is deep with Web3.
But patience and development is like the key.
So I used to be really impulsive, but I've learned to work on my patience.
That's what I would say, yeah.
That's a good word for Web3 because a lot of people jump ship on Web3.
Yeah, that's why patience
is a virtue.
Yeah, it's crazy.
But you still see the long-term
with the potential in Web3?
Yeah.
I mean, I've always seen
the long-term in it.
It's just that I
had to form the roadmap
of patience
to understand
how fast it changes and then also my direction
has to stay straight as it changes so you know you just gotta just stay patient that's that's my
thing yeah because there's there's a lot of people that were hyping it up on Twitter and stuff for throwing that bull run? What, NFTs? Web3, NFTs, yeah.
No, it's a real thing.
It's how you use it, right?
For your purpose, I would say.
And if you don't have a purpose,
then it could be a little difficult
for it to help you with the purpose.
Absolutely.
So when I realized how beneficial it was for me
and what I wanted to do for the long run
for like what i what i like to do creatively um i was like damn it works so
yeah patience yeah so talking about scapes what was the the vision there for that project that's
that's a part of the vision so the the vision for scapes is to re-identify myself in the Web3 space, but not jump so far away from who I am and what I've created and what I've done.
So it's kind of like a playoff of everything that I know creatively without confusing people that is like Stevie Williams, right?
Because that's a whole situation in itself so i was able
to recreate an image out of something that i liked when i was a kid which was urban anime
and make it i mean not urban anime but uh japanimation back in the day yeah i'm older
like dragon ball no bro i'm older i'm to say like Ghost in the Shell or Akira.
I haven't heard of those.
Yeah, Fist of the North Star, things like that where, you know, I've seen what we have to build in Web3, it all made sense to say, okay, well, damn, I want to create a new situation, a new vibe, right?
And scapes represents skateboarding and apes represents the, I would say, the identity of the Web3 culture.
Everybody uses apes and stuff like that.
Yeah, yeah.
So scapes, skate apes, it makes sense.
So delivering fidgetal stuff was the key to making everything make sense for me
because with the NFC chip or the tag,
you're able to make really cool fidgetal products
that represents the Web3 space
but it's on in real life
physical products.
So what is Fidgetal?
Fidgetal is a new term
and that term
describes Fidgetal products
with digital assets
meaning in real life
real physical stuff
that have the NFc tag attached to it which means
near field communication got it tap technology and things like that so given the consumer
experience when they purchase the brand hasn't been done um by a lot of people right so and everybody have their own style of doing it
um nfc tags isn't like one person's thing it's it's a thing yeah people can develop it and all
of that so it all depends about what you do with it right so i was able to narrow it down into like
what i wanted to do and how i wanted to do it and then developing it and then bringing it to life.
That's what I'm saying.
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Patience.
Yeah.
Process.
Yeah, it's crazy, but it's dope.
It's fun.
No, I feel that, though, because I visited Gary V's office,
and he had a whole team just for VFriends, like in the office.
I can only imagine what he has.
Yeah.
So, yeah. It's a long yeah so um yeah it's a long
game yeah it's a lot of people left the space and they're worried because like board apes are down
a lot but we'll see what happens yeah i was i would look at those as buyers not creators so
the buyers think that the market is down because they didn't make a certain amount of money or
they flip like whatever the case may be whatever they they was into, can't knock it, right?
But if you're a creator and you believe in your project,
then there's always going to be obstacles and non-believers.
So can you get past that to succeed, right?
So that's kind of like what I'm on.
Yeah.
You still watching
any uh animes right now no bro i'm so busy i don't even have time to watch tv i swear as soon
as i get home i'm like cleaning like walking my dog feeding him sitting down studying a little
bit more yeah i may try to catch basketball but as soon as i cut it on, I'm out. Damn, you're grinding, man.
Yeah, I'm out.
I'm going to sleep.
Who you got winning this four teams left?
I'm going to go with Anthony Edwards.
Ooh, and they're down 0-1 right now.
So that's a bold pick because they just lost at home.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, to be honest with you, I don't really care, now. So that's, that's a bold pick cause they just lost at home. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, to be honest with you,
I don't really care to be honest with you,
but I like to see the change of guard and things.
And I think that Anthony Edwards represents and,
um,
the Indiana Pacers represent a new style of,
of fast paced basketball that's arriving.
And I think that's going to put a lot of pressure on the OGs
and then the young OGs too because the fast-paced rhythm.
That's what I like to watch.
I could see that.
Things like that.
And plus, that's my son's favorite player, so I'm rooting for him.
Oh, yeah? He's got a good taste in players.
He does.
He could have picked someone else.
My son picked them all.
What do you mean?
Like, he picked that the Warriors were going to have a run, like, when he was young, as far as, like, when they was, like, battling the Clippers.
Wow.
And then he predicted Steph Curry being MVP.
Dude.
Yeah.
Your son's a savant.
But my son is also a basketball player, so shout out to my son.
Yeah.
I got to see him hoop, man.
And his school, Bishop Alamany, won state champ this year.
Damn.
So he nice.
Yeah, he's nice.
His team is nice.
They're nice together.
Okay.
And then he predicted Anthony Edwards.
That's crazy.
So I got to give him his props.
Edwards was a hard pick to predict.
I only know him from the movie, the Adam Sandler movie, right?
But I didn't know he could ball like that.
But he's vicious.
And to me, they already beat the champs.
Damn.
So, you know.
I can see that.
It's entertainment.
How about that?
Yeah. So you got a family of athletes, man, because you were a pro skateboarder yeah skater i'm still a pro oh you're still
skating yeah i still skate yeah and then you know it's just a creative house i would say
like my kids can go in their own creative direction but uh we have formulas that we
develop for for roadmaps so you can follow in your life and stay on path.
Wow.
That's interesting because a lot of households tell their kids what to do exactly,
and there's not really that creative freedom, right?
Yeah.
I think a lot of those people were told what to do,
so they only know what to tell their kids what to do from what somebody else told them.
My mom, she allowed me to be a free-spirited kid,
and I learned, like on the road, I learned a lot.
And the things that I learned, I was able to kind of redirect my family
with the help and support of them, learning the learning curves
and creating a roadmap for us to follow to be
successful and then portraying that and them seeing that and me working hard for that every
day to stay solid on my path path of greatness path of righteousness and and the path of success
so yeah that's interesting because when you were pursuing skateboarding, the market wasn't huge at the time, right?
Or was it?
No.
No, no, no.
It's always been a market.
And the goal for any skater that wants to pursue his dream is to turn pro, right?
But I seen something different.
I seen like more when I moved to Los Angeles.
I seen that I could something different. I seen like more when I moved to Los Angeles, I seen that I could become more and the roads kind of just opened up and
appeared and I went for it.
So,
you know,
I'm blessed,
definitely grateful for being in this position.
And,
um,
yeah,
it was just success.
You had the vision,
but you also executed it.
I think that's.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I always wanted to be like what I am now.
Wow.
My kids asked me that.
My daughter, some other kids asked me, like, did I ever see myself being who I am now?
And yeah, that's what I worked hard for.
Wow.
That's what I saw when I was a kid.
I wanted this.
So now that I have it, what do I do with it? And that's the phase in my life where, you know, giving back, giving out positive, more like accurate information on how to do things and just staying within the system of development so you can have some time for yourself to become who you want to be and things like that.
I don't know.
It gets deep.
Yeah.
No,
it's all life stuff.
Yeah.
I mean,
yeah.
And,
uh,
you never get there again.
It's tough sometimes,
right?
Yeah.
I've lost it.
I've lost it.
And,
um,
I feel as though I'm like getting it back and how I got it back is different
from how I had it before.
So I'm more grateful for it now than I was when I was a little bit younger.
Yeah.
That's deep.
Cause when you're young,
it's you get wrapped up in it,
right?
Well,
yeah.
I,
my cousin Sewell,
shout out to him.
We,
we got this joke about the dip,
right?
So you could be successful,
rich.
You, you like, you can come up, right?
And then within that success and within that come up, you're definitely high and everything feels like it's going to last forever.
And everybody hears that story.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah. But then that dip comes and that dip is a super low
test of who
you truly are and if it was meant for you
because every great
great
has had a dip
where they had to overcome
the obstacles after success
to become
greater than they were
before the dip.
And then I think that's when you get the goat status
because people have to see their hero fail
and how strong their hero pursues to come back.
Usually they can come back,
but if you don't come back from the dip,
then that's where you're at.
Yeah, two people came to mind when you're talking.
So Michael Jordan came to mind.
For sure.
And then on the other end, Antonio Brown, because he just went bankrupt yesterday.
I wouldn't say that's the dip for Antonio Brown, but I would say Michael Jordan, yeah.
Yeah? You don't think that's a dip though?
No.
What is that?
I don't know what that is for him but what they telling us it's financial issues but i mean who doesn't have
financial issues the average person can have that like no nothing to take away from antonio
brown or anything but i'm saying more like i say look at Michael Jordan. Yeah. He created his own dip when he went to baseball.
Right?
He was ridiculed.
He was tested.
He was humiliated.
And he stayed true.
He invested into the baseball team. team he brought light to it he learned
from it he took a break from the pressure whatever else was going on but he like he took it all in
the media ate him up you know like things like that like he hit maybe one home run you feel me yeah but that michael jordan one home run
in a minor league was so monumental probably for him in his life that that that his dip
when he came back from to basketball he overachieved after that humiliation embarrassment and people seeing a hero in a lower light yeah right and
then he was able to achieve things like that you know i can't really identify everybody's dip but
if you know what i know you know that that dip is real yeah and they happen can you bounce back
from the right and they happen more than people think, you know. It's not as naturally. It has to happen.
That's life. So, yeah. So, like, when I'm like, all right, damn, did he hit the dip yet? You know, it's like, did he or did she or did the situation hit the dip? Because now you can see, okay, now they're dealing with really true adversity and out of public scrutiny and all that type of stuff. And then do they come back from that? then do they come back from that how do they come back from that right and then that was the testament of their of their of their goatness
right because they don't make monuments and statues out of the week so at the end of the day
like are you tried and true in the eye of the public to be as strong as they uh they they think
you are. Absolutely.
And it goes for any industry. I mean, people's expectations is very, very hard.
Oh, yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Especially these days with social media.
Oh, my God.
Getting criticized every game.
Like just everything.
Yeah.
Person, game, whatever.
Yeah, choices, you know, stuff like that.
So that's why it gets deep.
It gets deep.
No, for real.
But, yeah, it applies to any industry too.
Look at any successful entrepreneur.
Yes. Any business owner. Anybody that you look at that has major success you can actually ask them about their dip and they should be able to explain to you
like humbly um yeah it's it's it's a thing can you bounce back yeah yeah and i've had i'm only
27 but i've definitely had a
few big ones already a few dips yeah yeah they come so imagine being prepared for the dip yeah
right which you can't be but doing that road map and and like your your your guided direction of
where you should be going in life you can expect potholes you can expect um just things to obstacles to be in your way
and to and setbacks yeah and how to avoid those and don't put yourself into
possible possible pushbacks yeah you know did you experience a big one when you were skateboarding
which one pushbacks or yeah yeah yeah i have yes for sure i've yeah i have for
sure yeah you really uh made a name for yourself in that industry so i assume you went through some
some big dips and setbacks and stuff yeah i've had some public failures um i've had some public
humiliate humiliating situations i've had financial situations um you know it's just
it is what it is yeah but i am blessed to still be around though yeah i will say not a lot of
people are still around your longevity is impressive you know what i mean crazy yeah
yeah i mean look 20 years ago like you could probably name maybe five guys still around
yeah probably yeah probably more probably more maybe more what
do you mean like a level of like skating like have maintained their level of notoriety yeah
like reputation that type of stuff yeah yeah there's not many yeah yeah i'm a pretty pretty
serious funny acting person but i learned like when it's time to turn it on bring it yeah then when it's time to
shut it off like shut it off yeah you know when uh cause of seeing well i have different sets of
friends okay you know so these sets of friends do this these sets of friends do that these sets
of friends do this then i have my family. So with my friends, I could definitely be me.
Like, I don't have to be anything that I don't want to be.
But then when it comes to my family that truly knows me and how to push my buttons
or knows what I'm really feeling or know how I really get down,
you know, it's just those type of things that being relatable.
Yeah, being relatable to multiple different things so you can make the right choice you feel me yeah yeah because if the choice is to
have longevity then you can't fall for the small quick things and you this is my personal opinion
you just have to feel as though like you're making the right choice for your longevity play.
And you don't, like, sacrifice your long-term shit for short-term things.
That's hard.
Long-term, yeah.
Because, yeah, especially with family involved too, right?
Family and forecasting, not knowing what your life could be like in the future.
Like you said, you're 27?
Yeah. Yeah, 27. I didn't know what my life could be like in the future like you say you're 27 yeah
yeah 27 i didn't know what my life would be like at 44 and i was nervous i was worried i carried a
lot of stress i carried a lot of other people's weight and then being able to see the things that
blossomed as far as the decisions that i chose to make um stepping up to be a dad yeah stepping up
to be a better partner learning studying more like kind of stop just doing things a certain way
and evolving into like who i think i should truly be type shit yeah then seeing it work
and then seeing the results from that a lot of that comes from your family and how they treat you and love you and respect you right talk to you and look up to you and those are the things that i value way
more now than i did from anything else so my whole thing changed yeah so and that's growing up so at
44 i wasn't thinking like that 27 absolutely i Absolutely. I was thinking about money. No, I think about money too.
I've had to change my mindset on a lot of stuff.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I used to be a massive people pleaser.
Massive.
What do you mean?
Like passive aggressive people?
Like I would put other people before me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like I would make sure they were good before I was good.
So this year or two, I had to be, I mean, selfish is kind of a negative thing to say,
but I had to take a step back and think more about myself i'm there right now too though i can't
front though only because it feels good to see or help other people out right it like it could it
could be dope to help other people out but then if you don't get anything in return and you still anticipating some type of like
reward or like right validation satisfaction like you like you don't get none of it
that hurts it does and then you like a corny dude for trying to call people out because they didn't
like meet your expectations that's what men do
right like real alpha shit right but um you want to write the right mindset of of of changing that
at an earlier age than somebody my age that spent an extra 20 years like letting people slide
wow you did that for 20 years no i'm just saying if i would have
let that up to my age but i mean i was like that at 27 yeah and maybe up to like yeah like 40 like
38 30 40 i let a lot of stuff slide on just because it was as regular as normal it's natural
yeah but then you know some switches people change things change money change yeah you know
um and then some people don't be don't be deserving things so why would you give
so much of yourself to something or someone that's very undeserving right that's when you
gotta be like oh no i come first and if you mad at me for
me making sure that i'm situated first and we got a problem yeah you can stand on that like
then it's like you're not really there for my well-being you're there to like you would take
her and that's the tricky thing with doing business with friends because the money can get in the way, ruin the friendship.
Paperwork.
Yeah.
Put your homie in some paperwork.
Yeah.
That was my mistake.
I trusted them just verbally. Yeah, handshake type.
Yeah.
Yeah, everybody get knocked down.
It ain't just your friends.
So just being able to understand you may take a loss if you don't do it correctly.
And you can't even get mad at the
homie for burning you you got to get mad at yourself that you wasn't prepared yeah that's
deep a lot of people play the victim game but i like that but yeah you got to put that on yourself
right more so like damn like i didn't do it properly and I wasn't prepared to take this L. So now I got to really take this L.
But an L ain't really an L.
It's a learning lesson, right?
So you learn.
So if you let that slide again, then yeah, you retarded.
You know what I'm saying?
Like you can't because you know better now.
And then it's like, all right, well, I feel sorry for the next motherfucker.
Absolutely.
Because I'm not going
let it slide and then that'll just be your mo and i had to learn that too and it's not easy
because you might be like a you know a good-hearted dude i want to see people win which is which is
great but people would take advantage yeah like the kindness for business for sure facts that's
what it's about business is ruthless man yeah you want to swim with the sharks you can't be yeah can't be food yeah it's interesting i mean
i want other podcasts to succeed but there's definitely can feel some negative energy
sometimes you know oh well i'm having a podcast oh like podcast just like so yeah certain people
in the comments you know hating on me or the guest or whatever it is.
But that's social media in general, I feel like.
Well, they have to hate.
Like, they have to.
Everybody's not going to agree, but they have to hate, bro.
Don't let that shit get to you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because if they wasn't hating they they wasn't watching so if they wasn't watching
if the haters ain't watching then you ain't gonna really have too many like viewers so you gotta
you have to it may sting to hear people talk about you but oh well yeah it comes with the
views i guess that's a good way to look you won't up here if, they wouldn't be looking at you if he wasn't grabbing their attention.
Right.
Right.
100%.
So you need,
you need both.
And it's good marketing too.
You know,
it's good marketing
when haters talk about you
to other people
because they already know
that they haters.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
But now that hater
had introduced you
to somebody new
and whether that person is going to be the second hater, well, at least you have two haters.
You didn't have two haters before.
You had one hater.
You feel what I'm saying?
No, for sure. eventually like if your shit is authentic and and you speaking on some cool stuff that
like attracts their interest that you could convert a hater over into a fan i could see that
yeah you have to kanye has done it a few times kanye used to have a lot he has some crazy formulas
i don't even know what his formula is because he's an entertainer so he get a chance to like play with the algorithms and ways where but i
think it all starts with with the mind of knowing that you may disrupt some stuff right and then you
know it's a lot of backlash is going to come from you being so disruptive but if you don't like
care about what people saying because you know you created that wave
then it doesn't really affect you right thick skin no it's just like why would you even care
about anything that you these people talking about if you created it and why would you care
because you created it right so let them talk about it you need that make sense no it does
yeah i think feedback from the right people is important but in general on social media it's a
lot of you need feedback from the haters you think so yeah i think so that's what i think okay because
the haters are telling you everything that you don't want to hear so even though you may not like it they still telling you
something right so if you're like oh fuck i don't want to hear what you're talking about
it's like maybe you should maybe you should listen to some bad shit about yourself
i feel that though there's some truth in the hate sometimes it's more truth than the hate
than it is in truth that's deep if you think
about it because the hater is gonna hate and he's gonna tell you everything that you know because
that's i think that that's what it is though sometimes like where you like so insecure or so
so much of a perfectionist on your own stuff and then somebody calls out an imperfection
and and you like it makes you feel some type of way because only you know that imperfection is
there everybody else may not know it's there but if that one hater calls it out right and that
hater was right and it's like who did it affect him or or you? Right? Yeah. You feel me on that?
No, I do.
Yeah.
So you need them for research and development, I would say.
I'm giving out a little advice right now because if you really listen to what your haters say, you could find out what you really need to do to improve.
So don't let that shit get to you.
Look at it like just resourceful
information yeah take your feelings out of it yeah that's great advice take your feelings out
i love that i would say that you know i feel that i'll start uh i'll start reading the comments and
you know taking them serious you don't gotta respond you know it reminds me like silent jay
who's that uh jay and something jay Silent Bob. I don't know.
You never seen that movie?
No.
One of those movies, Jay and Silent Bob, where at the end of the movie, they won all of this money from doing this thing.
And then they took the money and spent it on finding every person that made a shitty comic.
That's funny.
And they pulled up to their house and punched him in the face it was dope
i never understood that like movie part until social media like was just took off yeah because
that's what people want to do you want to find that hater and pull up and like do something to
them right yeah yeah but if you really look at what the hater is saying and take the hate and the emotion out of
it and look at it as like development for improvement then you actually got like free
it's free tools yeah absolutely yeah so the haters kind of make sense yeah yeah stevie it's been uh
really interesting man i've learned a lot from you i appreciate it anything uh you want to leave
the audience with or promote hell yeah so when i was telling you about the fidgetal stuff yeah i have um a brand
called nfcb and that stands for near field communication blanks and i have blank products
that have the nfc tag attached to them So I make clothes with the NFC tag,
skateboards with the NFC tag inside the deck,
NFC stickers, and then also grip tape.
So I started developing products with the NFC tag,
and then also developing the software as well
with one of my partners called Eternal.
And we've created so much cool stuff that when that comes out, I just want people to be aware of this new term.
And then also my brand that's going to be pushing a wave in the narrative for this.
I'm not the only brand, but, you know, while I'm on stage, I'm going to plug my NFCB.
And then when people see it, they understand that when you get my products, it comes with media, meaning like music, videos, photos, social feeds, and hyperlinks.
And then more features as the company grows.
But this feature will allow a lot of brands to create an experience for their customers
just by tapping the phone to the apparel or the product and without downloading the app.
Love it.
We'll link it below, man.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
So, you know thanks
for letting me uh show my stuff on this stage i appreciate you because scapes is going to be
powered by all of this and every brand that you see me working with personally and then um possibly
dgk and in the near future we'll be using this tap technology shit so yeah we'll link it below
we'll also link escapes and
uh check it out guys if you're interested in that stuff and see you next time man thank you
yeah peace