Digital Social Hour - TikTok Livestreaming Exposed: The Truth About Diamond Battles | Patrick Cutler DSH #1273

Episode Date: March 27, 2025

Discover the hidden truth behind TikTok livestreaming and diamond battles! 💎🔥 In this eye-opening episode of the Digital Social Hour, Sean Kelly dives into the wild world of TikTok battles, exposing the shocking strategies, corrupt practices, and the rise of recycled gifting. Whether you're curious about how creators make (and lose) money or the high stakes of virtual gifting wars, this episode is packed with valuable insights you can’t afford to miss.   Join the conversation as Sean chats with guest Patrick Cutler about his journey in TikTok livestreaming, the shady side of money recycling, and how the landscape has evolved over the years. Plus, hear about Patrick’s experiences with UFOs, haunted prisons, and even demonology—this episode truly has it all! 😱👽   Don't miss out on this thrilling conversation that uncovers the darker side of online content creation. Watch now and subscribe for more insider secrets. 📺 Hit that subscribe button and stay tuned for more eye-opening stories on the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! 🚀   CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 00:30 - Moving to Alaska 03:29 - Recent Alaska Plane Crash 05:00 - Our Sponsor Kinsta 08:01 - Redgate Movie Release 09:55 - Men in Black Franchise 10:48 - Roswell Incident 12:55 - Ishigak Exploration 14:13 - Moon Landing Conspiracy 16:43 - Mars Exploration 17:51 - Haunted Houses Stories 20:09 - Multiverse Theory 22:38 - Demonology Insights 26:47 - Livestreaming Trends 30:22 - Meme Coins Discussion 32:13 - Is the NFL Rigged? 36:30 - Is Patrick Mahomes Overrated? 37:44 - Where to Find Patrick   APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: [e-mail]   GUEST: Patrick Cutler https://www.instagram.com/patrickwcutler_official/   SPONSORS: KINSTA:  https://kinsta.com/dsh   LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/   #tiktokstreamkey #tiktoklivestudio #howtogettiktokstreamkey #makemoneyonline #howtogrowontiktok

Period it's a way of it's it was kind of created as a way for people to support you that follow you like content or whatever and I Was having that for a while. It was just fun make money and but um, it's it's just got to me I got out of it just got so corrupt With the money stuff. Hmm, because people would recycle on there Recycle on there. Alright guys, got Napoleon Dynamite here. Let's go. Patrick Cutler.

Thanks for hopping on man. Hey, thanks for having me man. From Montana right? Yeah. Nice and quiet up there I'd imagine. Yeah, it's a nice place to hide out if you don't want to even find you. Yeah, I've never been but it's on my bucket list. Oh is it?

Yeah, it's Western Montana. If you go to Montana, go to Western Montana. That's where all the mountains the whole east side has like nothing pretty much. You like the quiet spots man because I know you spent some time in Alaska too. Yeah I was up in Alaska for like 10 years. Which is crazy. Yeah I was up there hunting wolverines. Wow. Yeah. Actually you were hunting? No. I have zero clue what I hunt actually. Yeah polar bears scare me man yeah no there's um up there they have caribou moose mmm bearded seal bearded see yeah they have a lot of different

things you ever eat some moose yeah that sounds like it tastes pretty good it depends how gamey I don't like gamey you know gamey yeah I've had some elk that's gamey yeah I like yeah I don't like it caught gamey because gamey means they're like no flavor no there's definitely flavor, I've had some deer to that's gaming. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah I don't know if you can fix that once it once it's in that form, you know, no you can it depends It also depends on the animal. That's it's like a fatty animal then it's like less gamey But it's like a strong like animal that's means they're like, yeah It's more gamey what made you move out of Alaska? Oh

I got divorced. That's a good reason. And I was on a job there, I was living in a village and I was on a job there for like 10 years and a village means that it's flying only, you can only get there by airplane. Wow. It's super remote and I just got to a point

where it's like, okay, it's been fun but I want to move on to something else and I was just kind of done. my wife divorced me left me up there and um. Geez. Sounds like a top secret job. Yeah so then I'm like all right this is over and I just moved on. Wow.

So you can only fly in there you can't just casually drive there. Yeah you have to so you go in an anchorage find anchorage and you have to fly on like a 19 seater into the village I was in. Other villages though it's like a four or five or six seater sometimes you'll be there flying in there. Yeah. Wow. What's it like living with such a small community? It's different.

I mean, everybody knows everybody. I grew up from small town Montana. That's not really comparable to the village. The people in the village in Las Vegas, the coolest thing is they have this tradition where it's like you wave to everybody. Like everybody passing a car passes, you pass with everybody away. So I'd like be up there and like the whole year of school teacher. And then I come down like the States and wave to like people in the street like in Vegas.

What are you doing? Maybe we get pissed. That's funny. Yeah. It's interesting to see how different cultures like act around each other. Right? Yeah. No, it's, it's really up there. It's, it's so much see how different cultures act around each other, right? Yeah, no, it's really... Up there, it's so much more of like people are more friendly because they're used to surviving with each other. You really need each other.

Compared to the state, you don't as much need each other as like up there. It's like life or death. Yeah, over here, you don't want interaction with your neighbors, I feel like. No, you want to be alone most of the time. Like we got gates over here, gated communities. Yeah, no, it's way different. So yeah, way, way further out there. You see that plane crash in Alaska recently?

Yeah. So my cousin sent me that and I woke up to that. I was like, ah, this is interesting. Alaska, I looked it up and I clicked on the link. I was like, no way. Oh, where that happened at is one of the most standard basic routes in Alaska. It is like you driving in your car and going like 40 miles down the highway to another town. That's how basic it was. So it was like that flying in general is dangerous no matter what

up there. But when I saw where I was at and I saw that they're still investigating, they still don't have any information on it. From what I've seen last, I was shocked because that's such a normal, basic route. They do thousands and thousands of times a year. Wow. That's crazy. What airline was it? It was Bering Air. Bering Air.

I haven't heard of that one. So they're an Alaska-only airline. And that's also the thing is the plane was a caravan and while I was up there flying, they had like the small little puddle hoppers and stuff like four seaters Yeah, they had like some of the bigger ones bearing air Caravan is like one of the bigger planes up there for the bush. So it's a really sturdy tough Will play they could like the icing if you ever heard of like icing on planes like yeah how to do it in DC

Yeah, okay. Yeah up there. they have planes up there that just, they can de-ice when they're flying and bearing. Whoa. Yeah. It's not like a full scale, like they're smaller, but not like a full scale, like what you get before you take off in the air, commercial airline, but yeah. So bearing air was equipped,

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it's the most mysterious plane crash I've ever seen. Yeah. When there's a one-off crash, it's definitely mysterious. But when there's this many back to back, it's like what's going on. And completely unrelated. Like the one in DC compared to the one in Alaska, no relation whatsoever.

They didn't cut down on pilots. They're just completely unrelated. And there was one in Philly. Oh, the Philly one? Yeah. Just like back to back, it seems like every week. Yeah, It makes you really wonder like, like, it's just just like we haven't had plane crashes in a while. So

now everyone's falling out of the sky or is like there's something else going on here. Like it's definitely made me more scared to fly to be honest. Yeah. I thought about that flying today and I really felt especially for the, I felt for the DC one and the Alaska one hits hard to home because I'm thinking all the time I think when I'm flying commercial, I'm like, oh, I'm safe. What would actually happen? I can't imagine being on a plane that you know is like 100% guaranteed to get there and you're like, a crash. Compared to Alaska and almost every flight in Alaska is nerve wracking.

Because of the ice. The ice, I've taken off in like 50 mile per hour wind with snow coming down. Like these pilots are good. That's the other thing about that crash in the last. These pilots are really, really good flying really well weathered planes and stuff. Like they know what they're doing. Even though it looks crazy.

The turbulence up there is nothing compared to what you've done down here. Like in a small plane, like flying up, my buddy cracked his head one time, flying up and down. Like it's, it's, some of the flying up there is wild. Yeah, cause it's snowing nonstop, right? You can't see shit.

Yeah, a lot of times it's freaking, the fog is the worst cause the fog you can't, is when the cloud covers only like a hundred feet or 50 feet or something. And that's when they really cancel off, but like, yeah. I want to talk about your UFO horror movie, Red Gate and how that came about. So there's this area that I grew up with in Western Montana, and it's a valley in the

town called Deer Lodge, and above the valley is this area where we've had all these weird UFO sightings. There was like a quadruple like murder, homicide, suicide up there. There was just all these crazy things happen in this area called Red Gate and there's it's well documented. There's there's a film like 20 years ago came out and it documented all these bizarre alien happenings in this area. So I always wanted to do a movie on it because it was used to be a campfire tale we would tell each other around the campfire and the story goes

there used to be back in like the 1800s this community lived up in the mountains and they had like a schoolhouse all these things and a little village or whatever and this guy one day came home from his homestead picked up an axe and chopped up his wife and two kids and then went out to his homestead and painted his gate red with their blood. Jeez. And that was the original folklore of Red Gate that people would tell around the campfire because, you know, the gate was red from their blood. So then it kind of morphed from that into UFO happenings up there, like there's this big

power transistor up there where the power lines run through and there's like a lot of energy coming from that. So it's just like this really bizarre area hmm what did you uncover during that um I uncovered um that's a lot of it was pretty wild like we would have our cars would stop working we were up there we just like they would stop working um we had weird phone calls I was driving home one night and I had a car following me when I was investigating this. Really? Like it was literally following me all the way home. I turned and it like just disappeared completely.

What? Yeah. What people talk about like the men in black and stuff. Yeah. Like it's pretty real. Like, when you're doing this UFO investigation stuff, bizarre things happen. I woke up one day and I saw a black car in my alley. Just sitting there looking at me.

Then I grabbed a glass of water, drank it, and put my head up in the black car and it disappeared completely. Damn. They got some sort of cloaking technology. Yeah. Weird. The men in black are a real thing. They have something going on. It's super bizarre.

You think it's government or you think it's some sort of organization? I think it's part government, it's part of organization. Like Area 51, the stuff that comes out of there, 100% the government's involved to some extent and there is 100% some kind of secret alien type technology that they are holding back. What it is, what they found. If you ever go to Roswell, I went down to Roswell and if you ever go down to Roswell, check out Roswell, it's not the smallest, it's actually kind of big, but Roswell, the history of that and all they covered up with that is it'll blow your mind.

The Roswell Museum in New Mexico will blow your mind. There's certain things that are like, okay, that could be be a hoax but Roswell, they covered that thing up like there's something, something went on there like something huge went on there they completely covered the whole thing up. That was the first major one right Roswell? Roswell was because they had the the pilot ever come out with this fake like styrofoam, like tin foil looking stuff that he tried claiming that was what was actually on the airplane that crashed or the UFO that crashed. The truth is that was not actually on the UFO.

It was like something completely different. And they're like, just go out there and just make up something about this stuff and we'll just make sure no one knows what's actually going on. Like, it's wild. That is nuts. I need to look more into that. I remember seeing documentaries about that one years ago.

Yeah. Yeah. But you never know what to believe. Cause then you look at who makes a documentary and it could just be someone trying to like project a certain message. Oh, a hundred percent. Yeah. A hundred percent. But like, yeah, the Roswell museum,

like you could spend all day in that thing, like researching all like the documented reports, the document, eyewitness accounts, all these things things it's wild. What was the biggest thing that stood out to you in that museum? Oh the eyewitness accounts. Okay so there's multiple of those. There's like nine there's some like nine people that went to the wreckage site to describe something that was completely different than what the government put out there. There are people that were threatened not to say certain things. The amount of eyewitness accounts from Roswell would blow your mind if you were one down

there and checked it out. Yeah, nine is a lot. Especially if they don't know each other. Just nine separate people. Yeah. Like there is so many documented eyewitness accounts that describe something completely different. And then like the bodies or whatever they were talking about, they took a couple different

air bases or whatever and no one knows exactly what they did with it. It was just crazy. Wow. And that happened right outside like an Air Force base or whatever, a base down there that they're out there. So like there's so much stuff with it. You ever see any UFOs in Alaska? I personally haven't.

I was up there quite a ways. We get the Northern Lights or whatever. But they used to have one of the craziest stories up in Alaska. I could never verify this is true or not. It's the story of the Ishi Guk. And since you're in Alaska, super remote, if the ice freezes in the winter, so you could walk out to the ocean for like miles. Whoa. All frozen. Yeah, miles. And they had this story of like, they would see these people out there in the middle of the ocean with like a lantern or something light

and it looked like they were struggling. So these people would be like, oh shoot, they're struggling. Someone's like walk around the coast. I'm gonna go out there and try to see if they're, help them or whatever. So they walk and keep walking. There's light, they keep going and going.

They keep falling this light. And then they'd get out all the way out there and there'd be like nobody there. And then the person would get lost and like disappear and no one to hear from again. Holy crap. Yeah, they called it the issue. Good. Because the issue good for these mythological legend, these people that live in Alaska,

but they live like underground or somebody just come out with these weird lights and stuff and like just confuse people. Like I wonder if that's a siren maybe too. Yeah. Yeah. Who knows? Could be a siren maybe too yeah yeah who knows could be a siren yeah for sure yeah so many things that I believe in yeah yeah I'm very conspiratorial no it's Wow like everything's like the moon landing is crazy I researched that over and over I I've debunked some of it but there's still so much which part did you debunk about the Moon landing?

A lot of people sent the phone call all the way up there. Yeah. That doesn't make sense, but then you say would they have radio transmission from Houston, they just put the phone up to it or whatever. The footage, I still have a tough time with the footage, how they shot that. And they said, I read recently,

they actually put a camera up to like an Australian broadcast because they could only get it from Australia or something then really the back to the United States but um the um do you ever hear about the um the Shining director um no I didn't hear that one um they did this his movies, Stanley Kubrick. Stanley Kubrick, Kubrick's Odyssey. This guy does a whole entire conspiracy video called Kubrick's Odyssey. He breaks down how Kubrick was hired to shoot the moon landing to fake it in a studio. And within the movie, The Shining he shows all these hints throughout the entire movie showing that hey the moon

landing was fake there's all it's crazy like there's this rocket moon ship in one of the scenes a carpet like all these things within the movie The Shining he's trying to reveal to everybody that hey look moon landing is faked and this is how we did it that That's nuts. And that's in the movie, The Shining? The Shining, it's in the movie, The Shining, like all these hints and clues. But yeah, I think there's a very valid argument that some of the footage might've been faked

or shot somewhere. I think that's probably the most valid conspiracy I have. Yeah, I've heard that too. It still be fun to me how they could get a camera, you look at the weather and everything up there, how they could get a camera mounted look at the weather and everything up there how they could get a camera mounted and all these things and shoot it all and I

Didn't even think about that. Yeah mounting a camera up there difficult And then like okay why we didn't go back and people always blame like I was too expensive or like I've heard so many explanations that don't make any sense. Like on planet earth, we still are discovering new discoveries. You're telling me there's nothing on the moon within like how many trips they did that you can't discover anything new that like, you know. That's not a good reason.

Yeah. Yeah. Like what would like, you know, we're done with that. Now we're going to do the space station or whatever. And it's just, yeah, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. I get the cost, but it's like, yeah, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. That's interesting. What about Mars? You think we sent rovers to Mars?

I think so. I don't know for a bit. Some people are theorizing they're like in the US, like they're just in the desert somewhere. I've seen videos of people reenacting the desert and the Mars videos. I think Mars is a really curious one that Elon Musk thinks that we're gonna get people to Mars. Yeah. Oh, is he really gonna do that? Or is that just like a smoke screen for something else? Interesting, yeah.

Yeah, it's hard to figure out Elon Musk, right? Oh, that guy's all over the place. He's, I study him all. He's genius. He has that like autistic, I was bullied as a kid, so I wanna like deep down side make the world pay or whatever. And he has that characteristic to him. 100%.

But yeah, he's a really interesting guy. Yeah, he's a tough nut to crack, man. Especially now that he's in politics. It's like, all right, what's your angle here? Yeah, I'm always looking at that. I mean, angle for more money for his programs and all those things, but I'm always like, what's the ultimate goal being directly involved in politics now? Yeah, 100%. So haunted houses, you've been in any of those? I saw your YouTube.

Yeah, I've been in several haunted houses. We have a place, I live out in Montana. It's where I grew up in prison town, Montana, where the actual prison is located. And the prison used to be located in town. And then they moved it out of town a couple of miles. And the old prison is a museum now. And that place is haunted. Like they do ghost tours in there, like all the time.

Like we used to run, oh, we did a theater group and they used to do theatrical performances. They had this stage inside the old prison and we'd get keys to the prison and we would go into the old prison afterwards and do our own ghost tours and stuff. Wow. And you'd hear crazy things. It's been on all kinds of different channels, like the History Channel and stuff. You'd hear, you'd get some people have felt stuff.

Just, and they still do it today. They'll like, people will pay to get locked in the prison for an entire yeah they will pay they'll like they'll pay to get locked in there for an entire night and get the entire like experience I would hate that so like yeah we're going through these old cell blocks at like midnight in the pitch dark and all you got is like some of the street lights coming out from the street it's just so creepy, just the unsettling feeling of what's with me in this room right now is like creepy, right?

Yeah, yeah, you hear stuff and there's like this one room where there's this priest or whatever and they said there was satanic rituals that went on in this room. This guy was killed here and then you had a prison riot years ago where like people died and everything. They're like, you have this tower to go in, see if they hear anything.

Just super creepy stuff. Did you try talking to them with a spirit box or? We did, we did EV recorder. Yeah. We did record a long time ago. I would take the audio files then break them down. I did, I, it always feels like you pulled up something. I didn't quite pull up anything like huge,

but there are definitely some things where I was like, okay, scary enough, I'm going to stop doing this. Yeah, it's hard to get definitive evidence. It's really hard. I've watched the Ghost Hunters a lot. The Ghost Hunters actually went in the old prison, but it's hard to get something definitive. Yeah, because I feel like they're in a different dimension.

They are, I think so too. I think so. The Spirit Realm and the Aura Realm, I think they're two completely different dimensions. Yeah, that's why whenever you see the are, I think so too. I think so. The spirit realm and our realm, I think are two completely different dimensions. Yeah, that's why whenever you see the photos are like so blurry, it's like, I don't even know what that is, you know? What do you think, do you believe in like all worlds

or multi-worlds or? Like multiple dimensions. Like there's? Yeah, Mandela effect. Mandela, there's unlimited versions of you, unlimited versions of me. I think so, yeah. Hunter, there's a version of you that's broke, drunk,

laying on the streets, and right now there's a version of you that's broke, drunk, laying on the streets. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right now there's version of you that's like Elon Musk or something. Simulation theory, right? I 100% believe in simulation theory. I think so. I think we're living, I believe that's one thing

that Elon Musk says, like there's like one in a billion chance that we're not living in, that we're base reality. Like, which is crazy. Yeah, I think we're 100% living. Religion to some extent confirms that. Religion says there's an afterlife. So I was like, okay, then this is essentially a simulation. Wow, that's a good point, yeah.

They all have their sort of interpretations on afterlife. Whether it's heaven, hell or reincarnation or something. And that's, to me, that's basically them and me and that we're not living in base reality. Right, it's not one and done. Yeah, yeah, it's not one and done. And I, to some extent, I believe reincarnation, maybe we're just going out to the outer world just come right back in born again

And then it's going through it again. I mean it's interesting. I've done past life therapy. Have you heard of that? Yes Yeah, yeah, that stuff's interesting. Did you did you they pull up anything? Yeah, and it'd be hard to like make up such detailed lives like for for multiple people. You know? So I don't know. I should do that someday. I'm down to try a bunch. Like I've done random stuff like Reiki healing and hypnosis therapy. There's so much on YouTube I've tried

because all the stuff's free for me. You can just like do a little deep meditation. I've done a ton of stuff. I've done that too. The binaural beats meditation. Yeah, you did the binaural beats. Dude, those are nuts. Are they? You tried those? I've tried some of the higher binaural beats meditation. Yeah, you did the binaural beats? Dude, those are nuts. Are they?

You tried those? I've tried some of the higher end ones or whatever they are, really. If you really sit there for like an hour. Yeah. Yeah, they're wild. Monroe Institute, have you tried that one? I don't think I tried that one.

They're the guys I pretty much mastered remote viewing. Oh, really? Yeah. And they have one for like summoning UFOs out of the stars. There's some crazy stuff. Oh, well, I wasing UFOs out of the stars. There's some crazy Oh, um, I was doing that as part of the red gate movie. There was um for Stephen Greer, right? Stephen Greer? Yeah, Stephen Greer. Yeah. Yeah remote I've tried some of those things and and they get together or seem grares groups

they get together and they all meditate on the same things or whatever and then they like They've had so many UFO like type sightings at these like huge events. They do. Yeah. Yeah, who knows man I tried one like trying to connect with a loved one that disease now what freaked me out did it I got the most unsettling feeling I've ever felt really. Yeah, I had to stop doing it. That's why I felt so weird Do I've done demon ology? What's that? Calling on demons that get certain tasks done or goals. Holy crap, that's a thing. I have a, yeah, it's a huge thing. I have this entire book on demonology. When I was doing Redgit, I got into all kinds of crazy stuff and the demonology, you have like,

all these different legions of demons. You have like the main legion, the main people like Satan, Lucifer's at the top obviously. So you can call on Lucifer to get done any task you want or you know There's this ritual you do or you can call down to the lower legion So like the reason they say go on to like the lower legions of demons. It's like specific demons Accomplish specific tasks. So if you want to make like 50 billion dollars a year, just an outrageous something stupid There's a specific demon that deals with money. So you start out by calling out to Lucifer and then you go on to the second level of Legion and this person. And then if there's a third person, a third Legion that you might go lower to that's more specific, you call on them.

And the way you like get these demons that come to you or whatever? They all have this pathway, they're called pathways, and you sit back and you imagine this entire pathway of like, for like Lucifer, it's like, it's this desert, and then you're imagining like a tree, and then you're imagining like silver coming out of a tree, and then that's how you like summon that demon. Wow. So you summon Lucifer, then you summon the next one,

then you summon the next one, then you summon the next one, and then you put in your request. And then they have a way to like unsummon each one. Holy crap. Yeah, I got you. That's intense. It was wild. I was doing some wild light of candle.

I was doing some wild stuff with the demonology for a while. Damn. And did you actually see results from that? A mixed bag. So I was doing a lot. I got some results, you know. Really? I always think, though, if you keep it pure and you're not cursing somebody.

You can go on Etsy. I don't know if you noticed, there's all these different love spells you can cast on anybody. On Etsy, you can cast death spells on people. No way. On Etsy? Yeah. You can go on Etsy and cast a death spell on someone you don't like. They should probably ban that before they get sued. I know. I was like researching all these spells

while I was doing reggae trying to figure out where this energy comes from. Ghost energy, aliens, all this stuff. So I got into all that stuff and I was like I was going through like all these spells on Etsy and some were horrible, negative spells you could put on someone you don't like. I definitely feel like there's evil eye spells and stuff. I try to cleanse every, pretty often. You should, you should. I do that egg cleanse and I do other cleanses.

I was in Alaska and I ran a church, a Catholic church in Alaska. And part of the church, we didn't have priests up there, like American priests, so we'd fly priests in from all over. And once we flew in a Nigerian priest, and at your church one day I was like, okay, I've heard about like voodoo and all that stuff. Is that stuff like real?

Like, come on, you're a Catholic priest, that stuff's not like real or whatever. He's like, oh no, it's very real. Damn. He's like, it is very real. Like, like people have done stuff and you can see it actually happen. It's like, he told me so many stories about like they would cast

these voodoo spells on people and Legit it would happen like something horrible to happen that person one of my psychic mentors told me the power in Nigeria And I think he said Brazil too. They just have some really dark powers over there for some reason they do they do I was like so I was like shocked to hear that from these he's going into details like wow. Yeah So those voodoo dolls, like there's some actual truth to those. 100%, 100% there's truth to like all of it. And then people believe in karma.

If you do something, someone that comes back to this, other ones like, some of these death spells are like, oh, don't worry about, we'll do a karma prayer afterwards. That person will die, but you'll be fine. That's crazy. No, I definitely believe in karma. Yeah, oh, 100%. fine. That's crazy. No, I definitely believe in karma. Yeah, oh, a hundred percent. What goes around comes around.

If you're cheating on your girlfriend or whatever, it's going to come back around. Yeah, I've never heard of karma purge though. That sounds like an excuse. Like, I don't know about that one. Cause I say it's a ricochet with the spells or whatever, if you do any negative spells or whatever. Yeah.

I feel like it'll chase you in the next life if you don't address it in this life. Oh, a hundred percent. Yeah. Yeah. That is nuts. You used to live stream a little bit, right? Yeah.

Yeah, I was live. So I got into live stream on TikTok two years ago. It was way hotter than in my opinion it is now. It was just wild. Cause I was like, before that I didn't know. I tried all these different things to make money online. And that was the first time I started making like real money online is live streaming on TikTok.

And the way to do it is you go in, you hang out for a little while, talk to your crowd and they do these TikTok live battles. I don't know how many people know of those. The rap battles. Yeah, the rap battles. Yeah, I've seen those. The virtual battles and people will send like virtual gifts

to you for like a five minute period. And it's a way of, it was kind of created as a way for people to support you that follow you and like your content or whatever. And I was having that for a while because it was just fun, you can make money. But it's just got, to me, I got out of it, it just got so corrupt with the money stuff because people would recycle on there. Do you know recycling is?

No, it is not. So like, people got, we added money, people care so much about pride and looking good and all these things. So what they would do during these battles, they would recycle. So what recycling is like, okay, we're friends, you battle tonight, I'll throw you like, I don't know, 100,000 diamonds or whatever. Then in my next battle, you throw me back 100,000 diamonds. And the diamonds cost real money so you're you're losing money doing it but people would do these groups they recycle back and forth and back and forth and that's kind of how a lot of that works so you're like there's a lot of trust involved so you're like you trust they're gonna like pay you back basically okay from but um a lot of that money

stuff got so corrupt that people would be willing to almost lose money doing it just to look good. Wow. So like I go to battles, I got to a point where I would, I used to be like, like a good battle for me when they first started was like 10,000 or like 9,000 or something. Now it's like people are scored like a million diamonds in a battle. Holy crap. And how much us dollars is that a million diamonds in a battle is, so that would be, I think it's like $5,000. Damn. For an hour, that's a really good money.

Yeah. But most of it was recycled. Yeah, a lot of it was recycled. The most I made ever was like, well, I had a big throw out of nowhere and he threw me, like I got $3,000 like an hour. Holy crap. So it's like, the high end is cool, but it's so corrupt.

Like these guys that throw also get taken. This guy on that stream that night, there is, we were doing boxers, which is four different people in a box and there's this kid, he's in one of those Asian countries or whatever. His name was Bear and just nice kid and scam artist. But they'll do it from these different countries. They'll just beg and then made up all kinds of stories.

He's sick, he's this, he's whatever. This guy went off the app and started sending this kid money, sent them over $800,000. What? Yeah, sent him, like ruined his business, everything. Like in the end, he said the total, like my buddy said, yeah, the total is $800,000. Just, geez, just to rap?

Just, it got in, they get in through the battles or whatever, and they're like, oh, please, it'd be super nice. Thank you, no, no, no, no, thank you. And all these things, all these people do these different countries. They try to get connected with an American that has a bunch of money. Oh, like a whale?

Yeah, like a whale, like a whale. They want to get a whale and then get that whale and do anything and like, oh, I need to pay for my family this or that and this is going on and then they'll just make up anything Wow and this guy just this kid just took him well he's probably backed by his family just took him from every single cent he was worth like a sugar daddy yeah yeah holy crap that was nuts it was freaky wild and then you moved into other avenues on make money. Did you get into meme coins? I'm just breaking the meme coins.

So I started with meme coins. There's this guy from the Super Bowl, and he was banking on the Kansas City Chiefs to like three Pete in the Super Bowl. Yeah. So he had this KC three Pete coin. And I'm like, oh, that's cool. So he paid me some money, but he paid me a lot in like Solana

or whatever, meme coin stuff. So like, so cool. So I'll just hold it. I held it, held it, held it. I was like, okay, this might, if it bursts open, it could be worth a lot. I'll just cash out when I'm done or whatever. Cause that's, that's why, that's how he's going to pay me. And then, um, well, Casey didn't free me. Casey got a ruin by like 50 billion points. And so it's like, um, coin tanks from there, but I'm tanked completely. They got wrecked. Got ruined by like 50 billion points. And so it's like... Coin tanked from there. Coin tanked completely. I cashed out for like five cents or something.

Damn. How much was it at first? I get up... It wasn't that high. It got up to like $500 when I was promoting. Oh, okay. I mean, yeah, the value of it was... Well, my share was like 10 million coins.

$500. So you were hoping for like 100X X on that. Yeah, I was well I was thinking well if I hold on to it If they win this a bowl it could it could go up up up up and then my brother was on his coin base Like you do, you know, there's like a bunch of KC three peak Maybe I don't have the winning lottery ticket. That's how meme coins work Yeah, yeah once once once made they just copy them and you never know which one's a real one to buy Yeah, yeah, so then after that I took whatever I had it was like a hundred bucks

I tried launching my own mean coin, which I didn't really know what I was doing So that I don't think I even set it up right here. That's a tough space, dude Yeah, I watched I watched a YouTube video. So now I'm gonna be Launching another official actual mean coin here coming up. We're not sure what we're going to call it. Maybe bad Napoleon, something like that. Just to meme like the jokes I do online or whatever. Yeah, that's cool. We got to go back to the NFL real quick.

Do you think the NFL is rigged? 100%. I think 100% to some degree these games are rigged. If you go back to the 70s There's this mobster that had actual information that says look the mob bosses own more of the NFL than you realize The NFL was originally created by people who wanted to gamble money on sports Like football was created by those owners. That was the original idea of Football and the mob would tell these

guys to say like there'd be so many games the mob would have so much money on the game a quarterback or throwing a reception here or there just to make sure this hit or that hit. I had information on the Dallas Cowboys Green Bay Packers game the playoff game I had information from my sources in Vegas that Jerry Jones threw that game intentionally and only a couple people knew about it. Wow. Because I'm watching this game and I'm thinking how in the world did the Cowboys be that freaking good and Green Bay is a little bit hot coming in. They want a couple games in a row. The Cowboys are that freaking good and suddenly Dak plays horrible.

But if you watch that Cowboys PackPackers game, there's plays where there's not a defender within 20 yards of a Packers receiver. Geez. Like, I don't know, like, you go from one of the best defenses, and Dan Quinn's in Washington now who just made the playoffs, you tell me that guy suddenly can't call a defensive game plan where there's not a defender within 20 yards of a receiver. Like, there's stuff like that. And then you go with the Pat Mahomes stuff. They a hundred percent give calls to great players.

Michael Jordan got in the nineties. Yeah. Tom Brady in the last couple of years in New England, that year they made it to the Superbowl. There are so many missed calls that went into England's favorite magically and they lost the Eagles. But like, there's so much stuff. There's so much money involved with every single game like there's there's just no way some of that stuff isn't rigged yeah I wonder what Jerry Jones angle would be because he's already a billionaire yeah that was my whole thing is like I don't

know what his angle was exactly like I'm on that but someone's someone's told me something within Vegas that's something to do with Jerry Jones. So I have no clue. But like, there's just so much there. It's just crazy. Well, the betting market's bigger than the actual sports now, right? It's gotten that big. The betting market's huge.

I'm huge in the sports betting. A lot of it. So that's the other argument back and forth of that. It's just simple. Like Vegas never loses.'s not there's not huge buildings out here because Vegas lose they never lose but um you can track who Vegas wants to win and that's kind of why it's hard if you just knew who Vegas wants to win well wouldn't you just bet that if it was that simple everybody would do that but it's a lot more difficult than

just figuring out who Vegas wants to win like Like the Super Bowl this past year, I tracked everything and Vegas for the most part during the NFL season took a beating from the public. Really? Yeah, they like, also MGM guys were telling me like, they really, really needed the Eagles to win the Super Bowl. Oh wow. Like, oh, there's a Chiefs were favored or? They're favored by a little bit, not much. There are a bunch of sharps that were on the Eagles. I still didn't know which way the game was going to go, but all the books that I had information on all said that they needed the Eagles. Then they're not going to go under if the Eagles lose.

But to make a profit on that season as a whole or do well, they really needed the Philadelphia Eagles to win that game. And yeah, the Eagles crushed it. Another one, like, or Vegas one big on is say like, Saquon Barkley, for example, to score a touchdown in the Super Bowl. You're like, okay, that seems pretty straightforward. Why the heck would that guy not score a touchdown?

Their offense is moving up and down the field, you know? And a ton, a ton of money was on Saquon to score a touchdown from the public and Sharps and everything else. And yeah, magically he didn't score a touchdown. That's interesting. Yeah. Like you think the Eagles would at least do that thing where like they didn't do the Walter Payward.

Like, okay, just give him the ball. He had like the best season of all time, right? He almost hit 2000 yards this season. Yeah, he would have hit 2000, but they pulled him in his last game. I saw the clip of that, yeah. Yeah, no, he's crazy. Are you profitable on sports betting?

No. Makes sense. And if you go on these pick sites, like PickWatch, there's like a little PickWatch, it's like five bucks a seer, all the expert picks, and they have like the expert picks, like hardly anybody's profitable. Really?

It's only, there's only like one or two percent of people that supports bet are actually profitable. Damn. And it's through value betting you find value in plays and equal value betting and or arbitrage is arbitrage as you go on different books and you'll bet one way then the other way then it doesn't matter who wins you'll still make money. My buddy used to do that but then he said a whale came in and wrecked him. Oh really? Yeah.

He used to make like like seven figures a year doing that. Oh really arbitrage? Yeah, a million dollars plus a year and then one one day some heavy whale just wrecked everything. Gosh, that's the thing I yeah, so I do it for fun or you can sell picks. That's kind of fun, but people selling picks like that It's a bad look. It's a dirty business. It's a bad look. I've tried doing that, but it's just so dirty I was just I did it like a couple of weeks ago and the ones I posted publicly, every single one lost for free. Yeah. Yeah.

Of an over-set. It's like you said, only 1% of people make money. Those 1% are not selling pics because if they did, they wouldn't be 1%. Exactly. If you're making money sports betting, why would you sell your pics? Yeah, you'd make less

because then everyone knows your pics and the lines would get messed up. Yeah, they would. Yeah. 100%. Oh yeah. It doesn't make sense at all. Yeah. Well, Patrick, it's been cool, man. Uh, where can people find you and uh, see what you're up to? Oh, it's just Patrick W. Kelleher on Instagram, TikTok, uh, Twitter. Um, it's the same across the board. So yeah, cool. Stay tuned guys. We'll link everything below. Thanks for watching.